Newcastle United Jets 2013/2014 Squad thread

[borat]

The problem with replacing Taggart, and to a lesser extent Birraz, is that we signed them as fringe squad players on fringe squad player salaries and turned them into socceroos. Will need to lower expectations when replacing them. I would guess that Harold is potentially Taggart's replacement

[joel31]

The problem with replacing Taggart, and to a lesser extent Birraz, is that we signed them as fringe squad players on fringe squad player salaries and turned them into socceroos. Will need to lower expectations when replacing them. I would guess that Harold is potentially Taggart's replacement
Harold is older and I don't think has the potential Taggart did. We had a kid with fantastic potential but we decided to not play him and let him leave

[The Dunster]

Flores is a great signing for the club. Before the season has even started Stubbins is proving beyond doubt just how useless GVE was when it came to assembling a team.

[borat]

Harold is older and I don't think has the potential Taggart did. We had a kid with fantastic potential but we decided to not play him and let him leave
Harold is 1 year older than Taggz. My point was we won't be replacing Taggz with a gun striker.

[The Dunster]

Harold is pretty good though. Has decent pace and can finish as well. Ask Birraz.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQRTeL8N_58

[parksey]

if flores is fit then i'm quite pleased with his signing.

his last few seasons haven't been his best but we all know what he can do.

[q-money]

big phil with the clear mandate to change the way this club has been heading

the end of mindless athleticism

[MFKS]

Stick to your Diary thread mate lol

he wasnt unwanted by the gypos, those povo bastards couldnt afford to re-sign him. So we have swooped in and snared him. So long as we have solid advice this time on his injury status, and we have a plan in place if its not, am quite happy to welcome him to Newy.
Would have been interesting if we had picked up Ambrose instead, but with Flores we know we are getting a quality #10.
SO his Chinese club got rid Victree got rid Gypos didn't sign him.


Says a hell of a lot when clubs who are doing better than us don't want him.

Yet good old Newy sign everyone else trash

We swooped FFS


The bloke has been available for months.No other club wanted him.




Face facts the bloke has done nothing bar a small period 4years ago. To say he is a quality signing is taking the piss

[plague]

Harold is pretty good though. Has decent pace and can finish as well. Ask Birraz.


Birraz wasn't fazed by this at all.

[plague]

SO his Chinese club got rid Victree got rid Gypos didn't sign him.


Says a hell of a lot when clubs who are doing better than us don't want him.

Yet good old Newy sign everyone else trash

We swooped FFS


The bloke has been available for months.No other club wanted him.




Face facts the bloke has done nothing bar a small period 4years ago. To say he is a quality signing is taking the piss

Thank god you found room to pack your cranky pants for your trip Member.

[steve136]

Excellent signing. We've all been complaining for years that we needed a true AM. Flores, Carney, Griffo, Taggart (?), South American Striker. Compare to last year when we had Taggart who hadn't proven anything yet and an injured Heskey.

I'm more optimistic this season.

[Mark325]

Excellent signing. We've all been complaining for years that we needed a true AM. Flores, Carney, Griffo, Taggart (?), South American Striker. Compare to last year when we had Taggart who hadn't proven anything yet and an injured Heskey.

I'm more optimistic this season.

Mate, we also had Joey Gibbs

[borat]

SO his Chinese club got rid Victree got rid Gypos didn't sign him.


Says a hell of a lot when clubs who are doing better than us don't want him.

Yet good old Newy sign everyone else trash

We swooped FFS


The bloke has been available for months.No other club wanted him.




Face facts the bloke has done nothing bar a small period 4years ago. To say he is a quality signing is taking the piss

Johnny Warren Medal winner and was back to top form last season before getting injured. Those are the facts

[WolfMan]

I can understand people being a bit tetchy RE: Flores. It wouldn't be the first time we've signed a player with a chequered injury history. But if the club has learnt from past mistakes, and Marcos is as good a chance of being fit as Neville (easiest comparison I could think of) then it could prove a masterful move.

One thing is certain, time will tell. Let's all just wait and see how it pans out before lambasting the poor bastard

[halo se7en]

I can understand people being a bit tetchy RE: Flores. It wouldn't be the first time we've signed a player with a chequered injury history. But if the club has learnt from past mistakes, and Marcos is as good a chance of being fit as Neville (easiest comparison I could think of) then it could prove a masterful move.

One thing is certain, time will tell. Let's all just wait and see how it pans out before lambasting the poor bastard

By people, you mean MFKS… and chequered injury history? Has there been more than this recent injury to his knee?

[halo se7en]

Harold is older and I don't think has the potential Taggart did. We had a kid with fantastic potential but we decided to not play him and let him leave

Compare Harold to Heskey last season and I'd take Harold in a second. We got the value out of Heskey's appeal and sold enough merch and attracted the fans. Harold would cost substantially less and he actually nipped in and grabbed a couple of goals. Would be a good replacement for Taggart with Griff, Carney & Flores feeding him.

[WolfMan]

By people, you mean MFKS… and chequered injury history? Has there been more than this recent injury to his knee?

To be honest, I wasn't sure if he had any other injuries to speak of.

And MFKS is one example I guess, but I doubt he will be the only one with some concerns about fitness. At least with Neville the club had intimate knowledge of the prognosis and rehab.

[GazFish35]

Harold is pretty good though. Has decent pace and can finish as well. Ask Birraz.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQRTeL8N_58
Birraz didn't even dive!
He just sat down.
Pathetic.

[GazFish35]

He's 28 and had one bad injury. MFKS you're a deadset ****ing idiot if you're calling Flores a hack. Go and top yourself now and leave us all in some peace. Your negativity has seriously gone beyond trolling…

Just put him on you ignore list.

[lil_masi]

if we keep taggart. We're gonna have to bench Carney or Griff
Or move Carney to left back to fit all of them in the team

Why bench them?

Brilliante
Grifo. Carney
Flores
Colombian. Taggs(other)

[joel31]

Why bench them?

Brilliante
Grifo. Carney
Flores
Colombian. Taggs(other)
that would see us concede a truck load of goals because we'd be easily over-run and played through in midfield. Brillante also isn't a holding mid. Griffo would suffer as a wide mid with far more defensive responsibility and doesn't have the fitness to play their anyway

[hawk]

I can understand people being a bit tetchy RE: Flores. It wouldn't be the first time we've signed a player with a chequered injury history. But if the club has learnt from past mistakes, and Marcos is as good a chance of being fit as Neville (easiest comparison I could think of) then it could prove a masterful move. One thing is certain, time will tell. Let's all just wait and see how it pans out before lambasting the poor bastard

Where im at WM. Decent player but wait and see.

Alternatively, Ive seen quite a few handy players get back to a good level and become ineffective after this injury.

Another Q is why has he been moved on from so many clubs if he's pretty good?


2006–2008 Newell's Old Boys 16 (0)
2007–2008 → Unión de Santa Fe (loan) 26 (2)
2009 Curicó Unido 25 (4)
2010–2011 Adelaide United 31 (9)
2011–2012 Henan Jianye 15 (2)
2012–2013 Melbourne Victory 24 (4)
2013–2014 Central Coast Mariners 12 (3)
2014– Newcastle Jets 0 (0)

[The Dunster]

Always interested in the opinions of someone that worships a state league player no A-league club has ever offered a senior contract. :gent:

[halo se7en]

Where im at WM. Decent player but wait and see.

Alternatively, Ive seen quite a few handy players get back to a good level and become ineffective after this injury.

Another Q is why has he been moved on from so many clubs if he's pretty good?

I don't know about anything pre-Adelaide, but since he won the Johnny Warren medal down there, it's reasonable to start at that point.

Adelaide offered him a 3yr offer as marquee which he turned down and chose to go to China.

Not sure why he left China suddenly, but how many players in the A-league make it in Asia?

His form at Melbourne wasn't great and he didn't fit Ange's style, although he still managed 4 goals - when do we get 4 goals from a midfielder?

As for the scum, they didn't want to risk the injury. I've seen a lot of CCM fans already annoyed about this signing which goes to show that the form he produced at the start of the season for them was fairly good.

[Jetmaster]

Will challenge Griff for chix....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIadm5BJ9tw

[Premy]

Squad Restrictions

Min Squad Size 20
Max Squad Size 23 (must include 3 designated Youth Players)
Max Foreign Players 5
Max NYL Contracted Players 3

Current contracted squad 20 (3 squad places remaining)

Rumoured Transfers

CB - Nigel Boogaard, Michael Beauchump, Robbie Cornthwaite
Striker - Colombian Former National Team Player
Attacking Midfielders - Darren Ambrose/Nathan Burns/Chris Harold

Updated Squad List

2014/15
1. Mark Birighitti
4. Kew Jaliens (fgn)
6. Zenon Caravella
15. Josh Brillante
17. James Virgili
20. Ben Kennedy
21. Sam Gallaway
22. Adam Taggart
24. Mitchell Oxborrow (Youth Player - u21)
25. Mitch Cooper (Youth Player - u21)
29. Joel Griffiths
30. John Solari (Contracted NYL player)
??. Adrian Madaschi
??. Marcos Flores
2015/16

2. Scott Neville
3. Taylor Regan
5. Ben Kantarovski
7. Andrew Hoole (Youth Player - u21)
11. Craig Goodwin
16. Jacob Pepper
23. David Carney
??. Joshua Barresi (Youth Player - u21)
??. Brandon Lundy (Contracted NYL player)

Manager
Phil Stubbins (15/16)

[lil_masi]

Squad Restrictions

Min Squad Size 20
Max Squad Size 23 (must include 3 designated Youth Players)
Max Foreign Players 5
Max NYL Contracted Players 3

Current contracted squad 20 (3 squad places remaining)

Rumoured Transfers

CB - Nigel Boogaard, Michael Beauchump, Robbie Cornthwaite
Striker - Colombian Former National Team Player
Attacking Midfielders - Darren Ambrose/Nathan Burns/Chris Harold

Updated Squad List

2014/15
1. Mark Birighitti
4. Kew Jaliens (fgn)
6. Zenon Caravella
15. Josh Brillante
17. James Virgili
20. Ben Kennedy
21. Sam Gallaway
22. Adam Taggart
24. Mitchell Oxborrow (Youth Player - u21)
25. Mitch Cooper (Youth Player - u21)
29. Joel Griffiths
30. John Solari (Contracted NYL player)
??. Adrian Madaschi
??. Marcos Flores
2015/16

2. Scott Neville
3. Taylor Regan
5. Ben Kantarovski
7. Andrew Hoole (Youth Player - u21)
11. Craig Goodwin
16. Jacob Pepper
23. David Carney
??. Joshua Barresi (Youth Player - u21)
??. Brandon Lundy (Contracted NYL player)

Manager
Phil Stubbins (15/16)

*21 contracted players

[Thomas477]

Wrt to Flores at victory, they were playing him as their sole striker. And he still showed quality. As long as we play him as a number then, we'll be fine.

[hawk]

I don't know about anything pre-Adelaide, but since he won the Johnny Warren medal down there, it's reasonable to start at that point.

Adelaide offered him a 3yr offer as marquee which he turned down and chose to go to China.

Not sure why he left China suddenly, but how many players in the A-league make it in Asia?

His form at Melbourne wasn't great and he didn't fit Ange's style, although he still managed 4 goals - when do we get 4 goals from a midfielder?

As for the scum, they didn't want to risk the injury. I've seen a lot of CCM fans already annoyed about this signing which goes to show that the form he produced at the start of the season for them was fairly good.

well thats good enough for me especially after what we have been dished out over the last few years

[pv4]

My views on Flores: great signing.

Adelaide - his form spoke for itself. One of the best players in the league. A pure #10 who set up goals, scored them, and got chicks. Any team would have been crazy not to sign him if given the chance.

China - he failed there the same reason many players do. The lifestyle is shit, and it's hard to break into the scene. I imagine in terms of HAL players going to China that the percentage of players who actually do good things there is less than 25%. I've been told by several players who have played in China professionally that if you aren't playing for a Beijing-based club, you're more than likely going to have an awful time. I was not surprised his China thing didn't work out.

Victory - let us not forget this was during Ange's transition phase, and they were going to a whole new system with whole new philosophy. He was played as a false 9, which arguably hasn't worked for Victory then or since (nowadays they play with two false 9s, and it sucks). But there were glimpses of him being amazing there, even when out of his comfort zone.

CCM - I thought he was superb. He seeemed to get the best out of Mitch Duke, who majorly struggled after Flores got injured. Dictated play, got a few assists from memory, bagged a few goals (although IIRC most were penalties). It's a shame he got injured, as I was enjoying watching him play. I thought Griff was absolutely unreal at Sydney, and a large amount of it came down to him being smart enough to know where ADP wanted to play the ball. If we have Griff's smartness, coupled with the proven ability of Flores, I can see great things happening.

This guy is a bit of a character - loves a laugh, loves taking the piss, pretty active on social media. We've missed a good personality ever since Ljubo IMO, and having someone as light-hearted as Flores might be good for us.

As much as HSG have done some funny things over the years, they do attempt to get some things right. For years and years, our team was in desperate need of a target man striker. They signed Heskey (I still don't understand why GVE had his panties in a bunch over that signing - he was one of the main people saying he needed a target man). We've needed a number 10 ever since Nick Carle basically - HSG attempted to sign Culina, and have now signed Flores. It may take us some time - but the evident holes are getting plugged.

Stubbins seems to be great so far. He's making low-fuss, common-sense signings. Something that GVE seemed to refuse to do, ever.

[Grimario]

I got a request from Newcastle_DiscGolf_Pro over the weekend...

Newcastle Jets ‏@NewcastleJetsFC 23h
The Newcastle Jets are pleased to announce the signing of Johnny Warren Medal winner @MarcosFlores85! http://bit.ly/1xuPMZg #NTUA
Luke T ‏@_Grimario 4m
@NewcastleJetsFC Is Marcos marquee or under the cap? And has the club released any info on Nick Ward? Kept or released?
Newcastle Jets ‏@NewcastleJetsFC 55s
@_Grimario He is signed under the salary cap #NTUA
:gent:

No response on Ward though.


Stubbins seems to be great so far. He's making low-fuss, common-sense signings. Something that GVE seemed to refuse to do, ever.

My optimism at Stubbins has been laughed at by a few footballing tragics down here in Adelaide.


You'll find over time that he talks the talk but can't get his team to walk the walk for him Grim.
He really struggled with Campbelltown City here in SA last year, with a team that on paper should have been in contention to win the whole thing.

That's at a state league level, let alone National. Damien Mori will be the next big coach to come out of Adelaide. He's doing good things with City.

When he played against my team, he was berating his players and yelling and screaming most of the match.

I just cannot see his reasoning behind getting a new bunch of players to do entry level coaching badges..... do team building in a way that will engage and physically challenge young lads more. Sitting studying isn't the way to do it.

And in the same interview, he's heaping pressure on his young new lads to perform before a ball is even kicked. That's coaching error 101. Say it in private to them while protecting them from the public eye. He's basically called them all out already in public.

It wont be long before the yelling and screaming starts again....

[lil_masi]

Stubbins was on nbn tonite. Said the young sth american striker will be unvailed in the coming days.
Also looking into another midfielder or defender.

[Mark325]

Stubbins was on nbn tonite. Said the young sth american striker will be unvailed in the coming days.
Also looking into another midfielder or defender.

Unless it's a LB I don't think we need another defender

[Beeen]

Just out of curiosity who was the defender who rejected us as said by SST?

[Grimario]

Unless it's a LB I don't think we need another defender

Back 3 would need another centre back. As it is right now, we only have 3 recognised in the middle, no depth beyond that.

[Mark325]

Back 3 would need another centre back. As it is right now, we only have 3 recognised in the middle, no depth beyond that.

Does Stubbins only play 3 at the back?

[Grimario]

Does Stubbins only play 3 at the back?

I have no idea. I just meant as an option and in terms of squad depth, going with ONLY 3 centre backs into a 30 game season is a bit of a risk.

Who do we have in the yoof that is a centre back that might step up to first team?

Alternatively, that gives Kanta more opportunities there if we have injuries.

[la bazzle]

We're looking ok for 6th

[Thomas477]

Kanta can play there in a pinch

[joel31]

He said when he joined us he will probably play either 4-3-3 or 4-1-2-1-2

[pv4]

He said when he joined us he will probably play either 4-3-3 or 4-1-2-1-2

Yep, everyone pissant fan I've spoken to thinks he'll play 442 diamond.

Agree with Mark - get us a LB Stubbs (or, alternatively, sort Goodwin's attitude out and re-mould him into one).

[Jeterpool]

Stubbins was on nbn tonite. Said the young sth american striker will be unvailed in the coming days.
Also looking into another midfielder or defender.

I hope this isn't the case if the jets talking again before the deal is completed. They've been saying for a while "striker to be signed" or "announced Monday". We've done it before and they've fallen through. (Re: striker)

The club has done well recently that I hope they don't shoot themselves in the foot.

[scarfy96]

Todays rag:

Jets coach Phil Stubbins confirmed yesterday that a South American striker had agreed to terms and an announcement was expected as early as today.

[Grimario]

sort Goodwin's attitude out and re-mould him into one

He's an Adelaide native, wonder if he had any training time with them as a junior before Papas poached him to Oakleigh and then Heart? Maybe Stubbins knows him from way back when.

[Jeterpool]

Todays rag:

Jets coach Phil Stubbins confirmed yesterday that a South American striker had agreed to terms and an announcement was expected as early as today.

Interesting....let's see

[borat]

Herald also says last signing will be a midfielder. Am hoping it is Nathan Burns but if there isn't a lot in the cap would happily take Nick Ward back again.

I realise we have the FFA Cup this year, however if we do officially sign the Colombian Striker today thats 22 players signed and sealed before mid June. 3 and 1/2 months before kickoff for HAL. Some credit has to go to management for pulling this off rather than the usual days before the season starts then 6-8 weeks for visas to come through

[Premy]

Maybe stubbsy could give Caravella a tap on the shoulder like Zads and tell him his not needed.

[Bon]

Maybe stubbsy could give Caravella a tap on the shoulder like Zads and tell him his not needed.

But then we wouldn't have someone in the team that looks exactly like you??

[Grimario]

Can someone compile all the hints that have been dropped about this South American striker?

I've tried to have a look in Football Manager and there are a few Colombian striker that seems to fit.

I've looked at Colombian, >1 int cap, Striker, contract expired or expiring in 1 year (from July last year) and not based in Europe or UK.

If I exclude people >35, I've come up with three names...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Polo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Yanes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Briceno

[borat]

Stubbins described him as young in the herald today

[Bon]

Nice FM detective work there, Grim..

[leftrightout]

I am expecting Falcao, if anything less than him i will blame middleby and bridges!

[plague]

Todays rag:

Jets coach Phil Stubbins confirmed yesterday that a South American striker had agreed to terms and an announcement was expected as early as today.

"Ladies and gentlemen can you please make welcome the Jets' newest signing Miguel El Bridgeo"
He'll arrive in the country in about 6-8 weeks.

[Bon]

"Ladies and gentlemen can you please make welcome the Jets' newest signing Miguel El Bridgeo"
He'll arrive in the country in about 6-8 weeks.

:lulzturtle:

[leftrightout]

"Ladies and gentlemen can you please make welcome the Jets' newest signing Miguel El Bridgeo"
He'll arrive in the country in about 6-8 weeks.

Hahaha i can see it now... it would just be bridges with a seedy little moustache drawn on with a texter.

[Grimario]

Hahaha i can see it now... it would just be bridges with a seedy little moustache drawn on with a texter.

He has flown over to Brazil, so he is technically in South America right now...

[Grimario]

Nice FM detective work there, Grim..

Doesn't fit in with Stubbins saying he was "young" though. To me young isn't 28 or older.

Also can't believe Zura is 31.

[coastiehater]

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[Premy]

But then we wouldn't have someone in the team that looks exactly like you??And play just as shite as me

[Grimario]

Todays rag:

Jets coach Phil Stubbins confirmed yesterday that a South American striker had agreed to terms and an announcement was expected as early as today.

Gardiner just said he believes he is from Ecuador, not Colombia.

Time to load up FM again...

[Jeterpool]

Just out of curiosity who was the defender who rejected us as said by SST?

I'm downloading their podcast now. I'll confirm once I've listened to it.

[scarfy96]

Gardiner just said he believes he is from Ecuador, not Colombia.

Time to load up FM again...

Yep, off you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ecuador_international_footballers

[Grimario]

Gardiner just said he believes he is from Ecuador, not Colombia.

Time to load up FM again...

So, it would appear that there are a LOT of Ecuadorian players missing in the database. Maybe SI don't have the rights...

However, I did find a few possibilities...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joffre_Guerron
Plays for Beijing Guo'an but was there after Griff left. Also listed as "right winger", not striker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joao_Rojas
Plays for Cruz Azul but also listed as a winger, not striker.

Well, there goes FM as a source of info :(

[pv4]

"Ladies and gentlemen can you please make welcome the Jets' newest signing Miguel El Bridgeo"
He'll arrive in the country in about 6-8 weeks.

:rof: :rof: :rof:

Militia - how do I give cred/rep for a post? This one is a gem

[Tommyjet]

I'm guessing juan Luis anangono

[Jeterpool]

I'm downloading their podcast now. I'll confirm once I've listened to it.

Cornthwaite

[westjet]

So, it would appear that there are a LOT of Ecuadorian players missing in the database. Maybe SI don't have the rights...

However, I did find a few possibilities...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joffre_Guerron
Plays for Beijing Guo'an but was there after Griff left. Also listed as "right winger", not striker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joao_Rojas
Plays for Cruz Azul but also listed as a winger, not striker.

Well, there goes FM as a source of info :(

If Gardiner is correct about the striker being from Ecuador:

JAIME AYOVÍ - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jaime-ayovi/profil/spieler/139494

ENNER VALENCIA - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/enner-valencia/profil/spieler/139503

Both in Ecuadors world cup squad and young strikers - 2 more possibilities? Not sure we would have the cash for them though?

[Grimario]

If Gardiner is correct about the striker being from Ecuador:

I thought it was a point that the striker wasn't CURRENTLY in the World Cup squad, just that the nation they had caps for was at the WC?

[Tommyjet]

If Gardiner is correct about the striker being from Ecuador:

JAIME AYOVÍ - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jaime-ayovi/profil/spieler/139494

ENNER VALENCIA - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/enner-valencia/profil/spieler/139503

Both in Ecuadors world cup squad and young strikers - 2 more possibilities? Not sure we would have the cash for them though?
Just watched that jaime ayovi on YouTube, would love it to be him but I doubt it. He plays top filter in Mexico and doubt we could offer enough coin

[borat]

I thought it was a point that the striker wasn't CURRENTLY in the World Cup squad, just that the nation they had caps for was at the WC?

If they are at the WC I would highly doubt their dream move is to the Jets

[OmeletteDuFromage]

I'm guessing juan Luis anangono

that is an-no-go

[Tommyjet]

Marlon de Jesus fits the bill

[Mark325]

I see no reason for Stubbs to hype it up if it turns out too be some no name kid. I'm not expecting some huge name but if he has as much name value as someone like Berisha did prior to coming to Roar then I see no reason even announcing we were gonna sign someone from South America.

[joel31]

Can someone compile all the hints that have been dropped about this South American striker?

I've tried to have a look in Football Manager and there are a few Colombian striker that seems to fit.

I've looked at Colombian, >1 int cap, Striker, contract expired or expiring in 1 year (from July last year) and not based in Europe or UK.

If I exclude people >35, I've come up with three names...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Polo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Yanes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Briceno
I did the same thing a week or so ago but didn't get time to post it up here

[belchardo]

Marlon de Jesus fits the bill

so if kennedy signed with City, we could have the "religious derby"?

[steve136]

So is this striker thing bloody happening or not? C'mon Phil.

[Tommyjet]

So is this striker thing bloody happening or not? C'mon Phil.
I doubt today with the focus being on the draw

[pv4]

I doubt today with the focus being on the draw

The club would have had the draw for some time now. Imo announcing a new signing on the same day as the draw would be a good move

[Tommyjet]

The club would have had the draw for some time now. Imo announcing a new signing on the same day as the draw would be a good move

I agree, wish they would hurry up so it can get me out of my shit waiting mood

[cobra23]

finally, what a great signing... mario jardel .. we should win the league now

[Pico]

The club would have had the draw for some time now. Imo announcing a new signing on the same day as the draw would be a good move

Announcement for the knights ownership is due tomorrow isn't it, can see HSG waiting and announcing on the same day.

[Tommyjet]

Announcement for the knights ownership is due tomorrow isn't it, can see HSG waiting and announcing on the same day.

Your probably right. Pretty well too late for one today. Bloke probably changed his mind and jets are madly trying to get another signing up for this week.
On a different trajectory, with stubbins saying we'll probably bring in another centre back, it will surely have to be a low wage signing. What about David vrankovic? Young guy that I reckon would of kept his contract with melb city had chapman not forced his way down there. Any other young, promising ones around?
Personally I would of kept josh mitchell

[coastiehater]

caravan has been released

[steve136]

caravan has been released
What the hell are the Jets doing? Releasing all their sh*t players and signing decent ones. This isn't the Jets I've come to hate at all.

[lil_masi]

caravan has been released

Hopefully we pick up someone of more quality, although Zenon was solid. Thanks for his services.

Please release Virgilli and Gallo!!!!!

[lil_masi]

Need a tough nut, who has great vision and good passing range

[leftrightout]

Need a tough nut, who has great vision and good passing range

I honestly believe Kanta can do that job.
Him and Brillante in the centre would be nice,

[borat]

caravan has been released

I was wondering if this would happen. Two theories here, Caravella career nose dived at AUFC after being successful at the Gold Coast so wondering if he and Stubbins did not see eye to eye. Second theory is that Stubbins has stated we are after a midfielder/defender for the final squad position I wonder if Caravella's salary was required for this position. Might explain holding off on formalising the striker deal should Stubbins still be juggling the salary cap.

As it looks likely we will play 442 with a midfield diamond, I wonder in Jon Mackain is being looked at for the midfield/defender role. We will need a dedicated DM to which only Kanta fills the role.

[Grimario]

I was wondering if this would happen. Two theories here, Caravella career nose dived at AUFC after being successful at the Gold Coast so wondering if he and Stubbins did not see eye to eye. Second theory is that Stubbins has stated we are after a midfielder/defender for the final squad position I wonder if Caravella's salary was required for this position. Might explain holding off on formalising the striker deal should Stubbins still be juggling the salary cap.

As it looks likely we will play 442 with a midfield diamond, I wonder in Jon Mackain is being looked at for the midfield/defender role. We will need a dedicated DM to which only Kanta fills the role.

Didn't Stubbins leave BEFORE Caravella arrived? Or at least in the same off-season...

I think it could just be that Caravella hasn't recovered as well as he had hoped from his ligament tear and is retiring to pursue life outside of football in his hometown of Cairns, kind of like it says in the article...

[borat]

Didn't Stubbins leave BEFORE Caravella arrived? Or at least in the same off-season...

I think it could just be that Caravella hasn't recovered as well as he had hoped from his ligament tear and is retiring to pursue life outside of football in his hometown of Cairns, kind of like it says in the article...

Haha nah its just a smoke screen for my conspiracy theories ;-) I hadn't seen the article but have now thanks. Realistically though Stubbins probably gave him a tap on the shoulder about likely game time next year.

[Bon]

I honestly believe Kanta can do that job.
Him and Brillante in the centre would be nice,

Yeah I agree..
I think Brilliante is wasted in the backs.. Need him in the centre of the park..

[Premy]

Maybe stubbsy could give Caravella a tap on the shoulder like Zads and tell him his not needed.Clearly Dr Phil is a avid foz reader... What's up Doc, great work the roundabout is gone.
Praise Griff.

[borat]

Just looking at depth in the squad to play a 442 with a midfield diamond. IMO we are still short on an attacking/midfield player and I am hoping we do sign Burns.

----------------Taggart/Sth American------Griffiths

--------------------------Flores/Barresi/Cooper

Carney/Goodwin----------------------------------------------Hoole/Virgilli

----------------------------Kanta/Oxborrow

Gallaway/Pepper----Jaliens----------Madaschi/Regan------Brillante/Neville


---------------------------Birraz/Kennedy

[Pico]

I'm much more concerned with those left back options, so very poor, whilst the rest of the squad looks to be well balanced.

[Mark325]

I'm curious what happens with this South American ST if we do somehow keep taggart. Does the guy just get benched or does Stubbins change to 4-3-3?

[Tommyjet]

I'm curious what happens with this South American ST if we do somehow keep taggart. Does the guy just get benched or does Stubbins change to 4-3-3?

Competition for places, nothing wrong with that

[Jeterpool]

Feel sorry for BK, Gallaway and Virgilli. With Caravella, Mitchell etc gone they're going to cop much more of the Foz hate.

[redwah]

Just looking at depth in the squad to play a 442 with a midfield diamond. IMO we are still short on an attacking/midfield player and I am hoping we do sign Burns.

----------------Taggart/Sth American------Griffiths

--------------------------Flores/Barresi/Cooper

Carney/Goodwin----------------------------------------------Hoole/Virgilli

----------------------------Kanta/Oxborrow

Gallaway/Pepper----Jaliens----------Madaschi/Regan------Brillante/Neville


---------------------------Birraz/Kennedy

We are in all sorts if oxborrow is anywhere near defensive mid, we might as well just lay the shirt on the pitch and ask the opposition to not walk over it.

[hawk]

Clearly Dr Phil is a avid foz reader... What's up Doc, great work the roundabout is gone.
Praise Griff.

rip cara, best for everyone i think.

[Premy]

Feel sorry for BK, Gallaway and Virgilli. With Caravella, Mitchell etc gone they're going to cop much more of the Foz hate.
And Bridges

[plague]

Feel sorry for BK, Gallaway and Virgilli. With Caravella, Mitchell etc gone they're going to cop much more of the Foz hate.

Not from me.
I'll still be going after Middleby.


Oh and MFKS



Oh and ForeverRed

[Mark325]

Competition for places, nothing wrong with that

Assuming this South American guy is a marquee, regardless of who he is I see no point getting a marquee and benching him. Also, gonna be pretty tough to justify subbing off a guy who got Golden Boot, youth player of the year and who got picked for the World Cup squad

[borat]

Assuming this South American guy is a marquee, regardless of who he is I see no point getting a marquee and benching him. Also, gonna be pretty tough to justify subbing off a guy who got Golden Boot, youth player of the year and who got picked for the World Cup squad

Not going to be a marquee and even the best players get subbed

[Thomas477]

Feel sorry for BK, Gallaway and Virgilli. With Caravella, Mitchell etc gone they're going to cop much more of the Foz hate.

Nah, Gallaway and BK copped a lot of shit anyway. Mitchell and Cara going wouldn't create a noticeable impact.

[seldom]

Feel sorry for BK, Gallaway and Virgilli. With Caravella, Mitchell etc gone they're going to cop much more of the Foz hate.

And the problem being ?...............

[Jeterpool]

And the problem being ?...............

No problem. Just making a prediction

[MFKS]

:roflz:FFS BK will be on the bench

Birraz will be starting keeper.
Galloway won't be seen

Bridges is gone



GYPO REJECT Flores is the man to hate on.

[Tommyjet]

So the herald today says we are waiting for immigration approval with this mysterious South American striker

[Jeterpool]

So the herald today says we are waiting for immigration approval with this mysterious South American striker

Re-run of Zura stories?

[pv4]

GYPO REJECT Flores is the man to hate on.

If he scores in Round 1, will you promise to change your tune?

[GazFish35]

So the herald today says we are waiting for immigration approval with this mysterious South American striker


Drum roll............


Maybe he hasn't had his yellow fever shots, and they are worried about when he plays Wellington.


Boom-tish.




Officially my lamest foz joke of all time.

[belchardo]

Drum roll............


Maybe he hasn't had his yellow fever shots, and they are worried about when he plays Wellington.


Boom-tish.




Officially my lamest foz joke of all time.

Both terribly brilliant and brilliantly terrible. Well done.

[Blackmac79]

Can't we just come 7th again?

[halo se7en]

If he scores in Round 1, will you promise to change your tune?

Lol of course he won't, he'll just compain that he didn't score twice

[MFKS]

If he scores in Round 1, will you promise to change your tune?

No not until he scores the winning gold in the GF against the Coast Scum


I thought he was over rated at Adelaide and reckon he is nowhere near the hype

[Rocky]

No not until he scores the winning gold in the GF against the Coast Scum


I thought he was over rated at Adelaide and reckon he is nowhere near the hype

He's still better than what we had so its a step in the right direction for me.

[foti68]

Adam Taggart has signed with Fulham
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2661792/Fulham-line-Australia-striker-Adam-Taggart-Maarten-Stekelenburg-Kostas-Mitroglou-edge-closer-exit.html

[Grimario]

IS that finally confirmed or still just speculative?

[foti68]

My source from inside the club has said it is a done deal. He also said that we have signed two more players which will be announced this week. No hints on the players.

[furns]

If Taggz is goneski, those two players better both be strikers

[la bazzle]

My source from inside the club has said it is a done deal. He also said that we have signed two more players which will be announced this week. No hints on the players.

Pretty keen to just get the squad locked in. Sad about tags but if you didn't see that you're blinder then a Bridgey supporter

[Mark325]

My source from inside the club has said it is a done deal. He also said that we have signed two more players which will be announced this week. No hints on the players.

Are these two more players on top of the South American dude and the new midfielder or defender Phil announced like 10 days ago, or was that not confirmed?

[belchardo]

As if you'd trust that foti bloke. When has he been right before? :lulz:

Best of luck to you taggz, try to get a loan deal back here please.

[WolfMan]

£180,000??

Seems low

[furns]

Thats the amount of his release clause mate $400k

[Hunter403]

Taggz will learn sweet FA in the Championship. Huge mistake. Australian football needs him to develop and learn, not get the sh!t kicked out of him. Yeah, I know the championship is a good standard but it is not a technically developed standard or a league that will prepare him for international football as a striker. I wish him well all the same.

[halo se7en]

Taggz will learn sweet FA in the Championship. Huge mistake. Australian football needs him to develop and learn, not get the sh!t kicked out of him. Yeah, I know the championship is a good standard but it is not a technically developed standard or a league that will prepare him for international football as a striker. I wish him well all the same.

We have to get over these generalizations. Did Timmy C not start out in the Championship? It's easily a step up from the a-league, both technically & physically

[pv4]

We have to get over these generalizations. Did Timmy C not start out in the Championship? It's easily a step up from the a-league, both technically & physically

Agreed. Too many experts of aust football think the only way a HAL player can develop nowadays is to go to Eredivisie, Bulli 2, Belgium, etc.

Fulham have bugger all strikers. Meaning more opportunity for taggz.

Great move for him imo. I reckon he suits the english system to a tee.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Good on him. Championship is good for his development, but unless they are promoted within the 2 years or he ends up scoring a handful of goals, he may be lost and drop off the radar.

[Tommyjet]

Taggz will learn sweet FA in the Championship. Huge mistake. Australian football needs him to develop and learn, not get the sh!t kicked out of him. Yeah, I know the championship is a good standard but it is not a technically developed standard or a league that will prepare him for international football as a striker. I wish him well all the same.

No offence but utter nonsense about the championship.

Taggart is fast and direct and will suit goin to decent club like Fulham with a manager that plays a decent style of football. Technically and tactically it's a better league than the a-league still.

[Pico]

Opportunity = Development. Any league that's a step up where he won't be riding the pine will be a good move.

[Jeterpool]

My source from inside the club has said it is a done deal. He also said that we have signed two more players which will be announced this week. No hints on the players.

Welcome back foti

[parksey]

yeah i heard he was on his way to fulham a few weeks back. good move for him.

[borat]

I wouldn't have thought Taggs would qualify for a work permit in the UK as yet. Am hoping he signs with Fulham and is loaned back to us for next season to play in the Asian Cup and up his NT games percentage.

[WolfMan]

Thats the amount of his release clause mate $400k

My maths must be off. Current exchange rates have that at $380k AUD. Agent has probably bandied him about at the lowest price - ass clown. Could have easily got $600k + IMHO, and upped his commission or whatever the hell they get.

[Premy]

Taggart never had a release claws, he had a $400,000Aud transfer celling. Which basically means if a club were interested the Jets management couldn't negotiate a transfer fee higher then $400,000. They didn't have to sell him for that amount but they couldn't negotiate for a higher fee.

[Jetmaster]

We have to get over these generalizations. Did Timmy C not start out in the Championship? It's easily a step up from the a-league, both technically & physically

Timmy has more physical presence than the diminutive Taggs....I too think it is a mistake, though I wish him the best.

[belchardo]

Know it's not all about height, but taggz is taller than timmy. At only 21, he'll fill out a bit this year I reckon.

[Mark325]

Anyone have any news on Burns? Seem to remember seeing that we were interested in him and that he had left Incheon but haven't heard and I can't anything about it since then

[Premy]

Anyone have any news on Burns? Seem to remember seeing that we were interested in him and that he had left Incheon but haven't heard and I can't anything about it since then
His been link with Glory but I'm sure we've been in talks with him

[Jeterpool]

I wonder who the two players are foti mentioned?

[leftrightout]

Surely we are close to announcing someone.... Wasn't there something written the other day that said we are pretty much ready to announce the south american forward along with a european midfielder?

[Bon]

Surely we are close to announcing someone.... Wasn't there something written the other day that said we are pretty much ready to announce the south american forward along with a european midfielder?

You would think so..
The Jets have been pretty much silent since the World Cup has started..

[pv4]

Every time I see the Jerks update their facebook, or this thread gets bumped, I get so upbeat before reading it as I'm just expecting them to announce their 2-3 signings they've promised. Then when I realise it's another Con-blown-away moment, I die on the inside a little more each time.

[Jetmaster]

Maybe we had to wait for the South American striker to complete his World Cup commitments ???

:blah:

[leftrightout]

Maybe we had to wait for the South American striker to complete his World Cup commitments ???

:blah:

:trolls:

[baldrick]

Taggz is off to Fulham


The Newcastle Jets have agreed a transfer for Socceroos striker Adam Taggart to join English Championship Club Fulham FC.

Taggart leaves the Jets after two seasons in the Hunter, during which time he scored 18 goals in 44 appearances.


The 21-year-old enjoyed a stellar 2013/14 campaign for Newcastle, scoring 16 goals to win the Hyundai A-League’s Golden Boot Award while also being named the NAB Young Footballer of the Year.
Taggart, who is currently with the Australian team competing at the 2014 FIFA World Cup in Brazil, said he was excited by the new challenge ahead of him.

“I’d like to thank everyone at the Newcastle Jets, including the players, staff and fans for their fantastic support over the past couple of seasons,” Taggart said.

“I’ve had two really enjoyable years at the Jets and for that reason I will always hold the Club and City of Newcastle close to my heart.

“I’m looking forward to starting a new chapter in my career with Fulham and working hard to take my game to another level.”

Jets CEO Robbie Middleby wished Taggart well with his move to Europe.

“At the Newcastle Jets we take pride in our ability to develop young talent and give them a platform to showcase their ability in the A-League,” Middleby said.

“Adam has been a great servant of the Jets during his time at the Club and we’ll continue to follow his progress with great interest during this next stage of his career and beyond.

“This move is a fantastic opportunity for Adam to join a Club with a proud history in English football and we wish him all the best at Fulham.”


http://m.footballaustralia.com.au/newcastle-jets-news-display/article/Taggart-completes-transfer-to-Fulham-FC/90928/5

[Jeterpool]

Thanks for the goals

[q-money]

Hopefully this means a better quality fridge magnet and the restoration of the expected thickness of the membership cards

[lquiquer]

Playing here got him to the world cup....I think another 2/3 years to establish himself as a star in the A-league would have been beneficial to him. He is still very young and the championship is going to be a huge challenge. When you look at his 45 minutes this am I fear for him. Good luck to him but really not convinced it's the right choice (Maybe financially it is).

[Jeterpool]

Playing here got him to the world cup....I think another 2/3 years to establish himself as a star in the A-league would have been beneficial to him. He is still very young and the championship is going to be a huge challenge. When you look at his 45 minutes this am I fear for him. Good luck to him but really not convinced it's the right choice (Maybe financially it is).

I agree. I think he is going to struggle physically and won't get game time before getting a loan move back here before heading to South Korea like do many A-League player who left too early before him like Djite, Burns, Brosque, Ruka, bulut etc

Hope I'm wrong. I want to be wrong. I just hope he applies himself, trains hard and realised the hard work isn't over. He hadn't made it yet and it's simply the next step.

[Pico]

When you have tinks saying he wants nothing to do with football clubs, an approach from an OS club is always going to look good, for the player and tinks to cash in before cashing out. With this now confirmed I think the south american is the natural like for like replacement for taggz and most likely that was the plan all along, hopefully this means we'll have cap and squad space for a decent LB now.

[Pico]

Hope I'm wrong. I want to be wrong. I just hope he applies himself, trains hard and realised the hard work isn't over. He hadn't made it yet and it's simply the next step.

Unlike those other names taggz had to really work his arse off to get an opportunity, he has always appeared very headstrong & the comments from the socceroos camp about his training will hopefully see him succeed.

[hawk]

taggz gone, fk him off, sh1t hair, movin on.

How bout this very unkown bloke


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS3SSsJ27fc

[WolfMan]

According to wiki, that's 1 of about 3 goals total he's scored in competition. And he was an International at 2011's Copa America. Hardly a superstar on paper, but we shall see

[foti68]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/jets-swoop-replace-taggart
hopefully they will release some names, my source was correct.

[pv4]

I agree. I think he is going to struggle physically and won't get game time before getting a loan move back here before heading to South Korea like do many A-League player who left too early before him like Djite, Burns, Brosque, Ruka, bulut etc

Hope I'm wrong. I want to be wrong. I just hope he applies himself, trains hard and realised the hard work isn't over. He hadn't made it yet and it's simply the next step.

I disagree with you two. I think Taggz needs to get over there, get the coaching, the training & playing experience, ASAP. I have doubts over whether he could replicate or better the season he just had in the HAL, as the HAL is such a weird comp, so IMO he needed to receive the rewards for his season before he did a Kanta and majorly dropped in form over the next 2-3 years he could have stayed here.

[Jeterpool]

I disagree with you two. I think Taggz needs to get over there, get the coaching, the training & playing experience, ASAP. I have doubts over whether he could replicate or better the season he just had in the HAL, as the HAL is such a weird comp, so IMO he needed to receive the rewards for his season before he did a Kanta and majorly dropped in form over the next 2-3 years he could have stayed here.

I can see your point. What you say about the league is true, too. I certainly won't disagree.

Getting him over for the training is definitely a plus. I said in the socceroos thread that you can see the difference in size of the likes of Jedinak. Taggz needs to bulk up and get better training (like training in how to use his left foot, but there are successful one footed players). He'll get that going overseas. I hope for his sake Fulham are the right club. They're a bit of a shambles at the moment

[Thomas477]

I'll be honest the fact that on paper he's scored 2 goals in 5 years, does not fill me with confidence. I was trying to be positive, so maybe he'll come good, hopefully.

And anyone got any guesses on the Spanish guy? I hear Ander Herrera is on his way out of Bilbao.....

[lil_masi]

I'll be honest the fact that on paper he's scored 2 goals in 5 years, does not fill me with confidence. I was trying to be positive, so maybe he'll come good, hopefully.

And anyone got any guesses on the Spanish guy? I hear Ander Herrera is on his way out of Bilbao.....

Just reading on twitter that the deal with the spanish player has fallen through :(

[Grimario]

I can see your point. What you say about the league is true, too. I certainly won't disagree.

Getting him over for the training is definitely a plus. I said in the socceroos thread that you can see the difference in size of the likes of Jedinak. Taggz needs to bulk up and get better training (like training in how to use his left foot, but there are successful one footed players). He'll get that going overseas. I hope for his sake Fulham are the right club. They're a bit of a shambles at the moment

Yeah, like Cahill. God forbid Taggart ever gets as one footed as that guy.

Also, go look at the goal package for Taggart this season gone... he scored a left peg strike in the game against Brisbane. He might just need more confidence in his left foot because that goal was pretty decent. And I was surprised when watching it back that he actually scored a few headers as well. And then I had a quick :fap: to the first one against Heart... no step, just trap and swing. Reminded me a bit of a Ronaldinho goal from years back.

Agree about shambles of a club. 3 managers in a season. Hope they don't end up going the route of Portsmouth for Taggart's sake.

[Thomas477]

Just reading on twitter that the deal with the spanish player has fallen through :(

I'm tempted to say I'm not surprised.

[Jeterpool]

Yeah, like Cahill. God forbid Taggart ever gets as one footed as that guy.

Also, go look at the goal package for Taggart this season gone... he scored a left peg strike in the game against Brisbane. He might just need more confidence in his left foot because that goal was pretty decent. And I was surprised when watching it back that he actually scored a few headers as well. And then I had a quick :fap: to the first one against Heart... no step, just trap and swing. Reminded me a bit of a Ronaldinho goal from years back.

Agree about shambles of a club. 3 managers in a season. Hope they don't end up going the route of Portsmouth for Taggart's sake.

Maybe it's confidence as you say Grim. That probably better describes what I am going for. I kept thinking last year that Taggz gives himself away because he favours his right foot so much, be that he gives away time trying to get around the ball or angles for the shot being reduced.

[Jeterpool]

Just reading on twitter that the deal with the spanish player has fallen through :(

Where are you reading this?

[Grimario]

Maybe it's confidence as you say Grim. That probably better describes what I am going for. I kept thinking last year that Taggz gives himself away because he favours his right foot so much, be that he gives away time trying to get around the ball or angles for the shot being reduced.

If a bloke can "give himself away" and still get the golden boot, I am more than happy for him to be one footed ;)

[pv4]

I'm tempted to say I'm not surprised.

I bet Robbie Middleby forgot to bring a pen to where they were going to sign the contract and now this Spanish player has decided to play for Melbourne City instead.

[lil_masi]

A guy called John Davidson from FourFourTwoOz

[Grimario]

Where are you reading this?


John Davidson @johnnyddavidson · 3h
BREAKING: Newcastle Jets deal to sign a Spanish midfielder with experience playing in La Liga has fallen through #aleague @FourFourTwoOz



He's the guy that "broke" the story last night about it being an Ecuadorian striker... which I disputed and gave James Gardiner the credit for, over 2 weeks ago!

[Thomas477]

I bet Robbie Middleby forgot to bring a pen to where they were going to sign the contract and now this Spanish player has decided to play for Melbourne City instead.

Probably, but let's wait for official confirmation.

[pv4]

:rof:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7a5yFYYPl8#t=34

[Grimario]

:rof:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7a5yFYYPl8#t=34

Holy shit... I remember that being posted somewhere years ago.

[Jeterpool]

If a bloke can "give himself away" and still get the golden boot, I am more than happy for him to be one footed ;)

Golden boot in the A-League. I don't think overseas defenders and keepers will be as easily sold or beaten.

It's coming across as I'm knocking the bloke, but I really want him to succeed. Not just for himself but for the national team too. He has a great base from which he can continue to develop.

[Bon]

Edson Montano confirmed..
Check your emails. Link below now too:

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/newcastlejets/news-display/Jets-sign-Edson-Montano/90942

[Thomas477]

Yeah, just saw that. Disappointed that he's only here on loan. If he's good, Barcelona will want him back, so at best he'll only be here one season. That being said, if he's a flop (and hopefully he won't be), we won't have wasted too much $$$ on him.

And as for a striker, his strikerate isn't brilliant, unless Stubbs is going to play Griffo up front and Montano on the wing?

[Grimario]

And as for a striker, his strikerate isn't brilliant, unless Stubbs is going to play Griffo up front and Montano on the wing?

He has 5 goals in 30 games... that's not great by any standard but I would be more concerned that he has only played 30 games in 5 years, not the goals he has scored.

Apparently 9 in 47... Wiki is clearly outdated.

[Frodo]

I wonder how many people are going to get FC Barcelona mixed up with Barcelona Sporting club?


I wonder if someone stumbled across the youtube clip above and the one of him scoring a long range bomb and decided that was scouting enough?

[Thomas477]

I wonder how many people are going to get FC Barcelona mixed up with Barcelona Sporting club?

I reckon NBN will tbh.

[lil_masi]

I trust Stubbins judgement. He was instrumental in bringing Flores to Oz

[GazFish35]

1. “He’s got good technique,
2. he knows where the back of the net is and I think
3. at his age, he could develop into a very strong player.

So do I.

So do I.

So could I.


wouldnt mind knowing a bit more about him.

[lil_masi]

It would help having Flores in the squad being able to translate as a fellow spanish speaker and adjusting to life in Oz

[sammydog]

It would help having Flores in the squad being able to translate as a fellow spanish speaker and adjusting to life in Oz

That was one of the reasons Zura never settled in. He had no support network.

I will wait and see how this guy turns out, looks positive though and Stubbins seems to actually have a recruitment plan, unlike GVE, so I will give him time and see what comes of it.

[lil_masi]

That was one of the reasons Zura never settled in. He had no support network.

I will wait and see how this guy turns out, looks positive though and Stubbins seems to actually have a recruitment plan, unlike GVE, so I will give him time and see what comes of it.

True and I think Zura only signed a few weeks before the season. His wife wasnt here either.
Edson is only young so I doubt he's married.

[pv4]

He has 5 goals in 30 games... that's not great by any standard but I would be more concerned that he has only played 30 games in 5 years, not the goals he has scored.

Apparently 9 in 47... Wiki is clearly outdated.

From what I can find, the Ecuadorian league is weird. They play "Primera" for the first half (Jan-Jul) of the year and "Segunda" for the second half (Jul-Dec), and seemingly play year round.

He seems to have played a fair amount of 2013 on loan for El Nacional, scoring 8 goals in 27 appearances. But it doesn't seem after coming back to Barcelona that he has played, so seemingly hasn't played since December.

[Skirt Boy]

True and I think Zura only signed a few weeks before the season. His wife wasnt here either.
Edson is only young so I doubt he's married.

Maybe he is a bit of a player and has a few birds on the go?

Not everyone is a celibate loser you know.

[Grimario]

From what I can find, the Ecuadorian league is weird. They play "Primera" for the first half (Jan-Jul) of the year and "Segunda" for the second half (Jul-Dec), and seemingly play year round.

He seems to have played a fair amount of 2013 on loan for El Nacional, scoring 8 goals in 27 appearances. But it doesn't seem after coming back to Barcelona that he has played, so seemingly hasn't played since December.

Aye, I noticed that too. But given he is 23, you would have hoped for more than ~50 games in 5 years.

[borat]

Aye, I noticed that too. But given he is 23, you would have hoped for more than ~50 games in 5 years.

Dare I say it but Wikipedia can be pretty inaccurate on games played/goals scored for more obscure players

[Grimario]

Dare I say it but Wikipedia can be pretty inaccurate on games played/goals scored for more obscure players

Wasn't on Wikipedia...

http://au.soccerway.com/players/edson-eli-montano/95439/



Season Team Comp Minutes played Appearances Lineups Substitute in Substitute out Substitutes on bench Goal Yellow card Yellow 2nd/RC Red card
2014 Barcelona PRA 263 5 2 3 1 5 0 0 0 0
2013 El Nacional PRA 1904 27 20 7 5 11 8 2 0 0
2012 Barcelona PRA 52 4 0 4 0 8 0 0 0 0
2011/2012 Gent PRL 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2010/2011 Gent PRL 119 4 1 3 1 6 0 0 0 0
2010 El Nacional PRA 200 6 3 3 3 17 0 0 0 0
2009 El Nacional PRA 67 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0
Total 2605 47 26 21 11 47 9 2 0 0

Formatting is turd but 2605 minutes of football in 47 appearances... 26 starts, 21 bench appearances. 9 goals total.

There's also another page that has 1 more appearance for Gent in a cup fixture which matches the 5 games that is in the article.

[borat]

Squad Restrictions

Min Squad Size 20
Max Squad Size 23 (must include 3 designated Youth Players)
Max Foreign Players 5
Max NYL Contracted Players 3

Current contracted squad 20 (3 squad places remaining)

Rumoured Transfers

Striker - Replacement for Taggart (Chris Harold maybe)
Defensive Midfielder - Replacement for Caravella (Spanish player rumoured)

Updated Squad List

2014/15

1. Mark Birighitti
4. Kew Jaliens (fgn)
15. Josh Brillante
17. James Virgili
20. Ben Kennedy
21. Sam Gallaway
24. Mitchell Oxborrow (Youth Player - u21)
25. Mitch Cooper (Youth Player - u21)
29. Joel Griffiths
30. John Solari (Contracted NYL player)
??. Adrian Madaschi
??. Marcos Flores
??. Edson Montano

2015/16

2. Scott Neville
3. Taylor Regan
5. Ben Kantarovski
7. Andrew Hoole (Youth Player - u21)
11. Craig Goodwin
16. Jacob Pepper
23. David Carney
??. Joshua Barresi (Youth Player - u21)
??. Brandon Lundy (Contracted NYL player)

Manager

Phil Stubbins (15/16)

[borat]

Wasn't on Wikipedia...

http://au.soccerway.com/players/edson-eli-montano/95439/



Season Team Comp Minutes played Appearances Lineups Substitute in Substitute out Substitutes on bench Goal Yellow card Yellow 2nd/RC Red card
2014 Barcelona PRA 263 5 2 3 1 5 0 0 0 0
2013 El Nacional PRA 1904 27 20 7 5 11 8 2 0 0
2012 Barcelona PRA 52 4 0 4 0 8 0 0 0 0
2011/2012 Gent PRL 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2010/2011 Gent PRL 119 4 1 3 1 6 0 0 0 0
2010 El Nacional PRA 200 6 3 3 3 17 0 0 0 0
2009 El Nacional PRA 67 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0
Total 2605 47 26 21 11 47 9 2 0 0

Formatting is turd but 2605 minutes of football in 47 appearances... 26 starts, 21 bench appearances. 9 goals total.

There's also another page that has 1 more appearance for Gent in a cup fixture which matches the 5 games that is in the article.

Fair enough. Having played for the National team he must have some quality. I wonder how Adam Taggarts Stats compare. Not many goals or appearances for tags in the previous 2-3 years before the breakout season.

[lil_masi]

Fair enough. Having played for the National team he must have some quality. I wonder how Adam Taggarts Stats compare. Not many goals or appearances for tags in the previous 2-3 years before the breakout season.

Think hes got 18 goals in 44 games

[Grimario]

Fair enough. Having played for the National team he must have some quality. I wonder how Adam Taggarts Stats compare. Not many goals or appearances for tags in the previous 2-3 years before the breakout season.

2014/2015 Newcastle Jets A-L ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
2013/2014 Newcastle Jets A-L 2147 25 25 0 9 0 16 3 0 0
2012/2013 Newcastle Jets A-L 887 19 9 10 3 10 2 0 0 0
2011/2012 Perth Glory A-L 68 4 0 4 0 5 0 0 0 0
2010/2011 Perth Glory A-L 231 6 2 4 1 4 1 0 0 0
Total 3333 54 36 18 13 19 19 3 0 0

Also 10 games, 3 goals at various international levels.

I assume Montano has played some sort of youth or reserves football... that's what Taggart was doing before he joined us.

[Grimario]

Think hes got 18 goals in 44 games

That's for us. 10 games, 1 goal when at Perth before he joined.

[borat]

That's for us. 10 games, 1 goal when at Perth before he joined.


So thats 19 goals in 54 appearances for Taggart and 9 in 47 for Montano. Not too dissimilar

[The Dunster]

I agree. I think he is going to struggle physically and won't get game time before getting a loan move back here before heading to South Korea like do many A-League player who left too early before him like Djite, Burns, Brosque, Ruka, bulut etc

Hope I'm wrong. I want to be wrong. I just hope he applies himself, trains hard and realised the hard work isn't over. He hadn't made it yet and it's simply the next step.

Nathan Burns claims that the reason he struggled overseas was that he actually went too late. The same could be said of the others you have mentioned.

It's tough to call though.

[Grimario]

So thats 19 goals in 54 appearances for Taggart and 9 in 47 for Montano. Not too dissimilar

16 goals in 25 this season. Compared to 8 goals in 27 LAST season, none in 5 since his return to Barcelona this season.

[Imyourhero]

Lets let his performances for us dictate over his 'stats'

[Grimario]

Lets let his performances for us dictate over his 'stats'

Agreed... but my point remains, Taggart has a far more impressive recent history :p

[borat]

16 goals in 25 this season. Compared to 8 goals in 27 LAST season, none in 5 since his return to Barcelona this season.

The 2 years Montano spent in Europe for Gent, presumably playing reserve team football, didn't do his career an awful world of good. Something Tags may well encounter at Fulham.

[Pico]

Rumour over at 442 is that the Spanish player was Javier Baraja.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Baraja#Club_career

http://int.soccerway.com/players/javier-baraja-vegas/17923/

Could fit, played 5 seasons of La Liga, 4 seasons segunda with Real Valladolid since 2005.

Was released by Valladolid 27th May 2014, so he'd be a free agent.

[Jeterpool]

Nathan Burns claims that the reason he struggled overseas was that he actually went too late. The same could be said of the others you have mentioned.

It's tough to call though.

Interesting point they mention.

[borat]

So big Phil in the paper today saying they are not going to sign another striker.

Nailed on to play 433 or 4213 now

[furns]

Rumour over at 442 is that the Spanish player was Javier Baraja.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Baraja#Club_career

http://int.soccerway.com/players/javier-baraja-vegas/17923/

Could fit, played 5 seasons of La Liga, 4 seasons segunda with Real Valladolid since 2005.

Was released by Valladolid 27th May 2014, so he'd be a free agent.pity they were wrong
Herald says it was Arzu formerly of Real Betis

[Premy]

Squad Restrictions

Min Squad Size 20
Max Squad Size 23 (must include 3 designated Youth Players)
Max Foreign Players 5
Max NYL Contracted Players 3

Updated Squad List

2014/15
1. Mark Birighitti
4. Kew Jaliens (fgn)
15. Josh Brillante
17. James Virgili
20. Ben Kennedy
21. Sam Gallaway
24. Mitchell Oxborrow (Youth Player - u21)
25. Mitch Cooper (Youth Player - u21)
29. Joel Griffiths
30. John Solari (Contracted NYL player)
??. Adrian Madaschi
??. Marcos Flores
??. Edson Montano
2015/16

2. Scott Neville
3. Taylor Regan
5. Ben Kantarovski
7. Andrew Hoole (Youth Player - u21)
11. Craig Goodwin
16. Jacob Pepper
23. David Carney
??. Joshua Barresi (Youth Player - u21)
??. Brandon Lundy (Contracted NYL player)

Manager
Phil Stubbins (15/16)

[Premy]

I'm inclined to think that Barresi would be a contracted NYL player and we could still sign 3 more.

[Jeterpool]

I think Taggz can come off the list.

Also there are a large number if players off contract next year. We could be in line for a massive squad change to bring in Phil's players.

[Premy]

I think Taggz can come off the list.

Also there are a large number if players off contract next year. We could be in line for a massive squad change to bring in Phil's players.
Haha yep done.

So potentially room for 4 signings.

[Tommyjet]

So stubbsy on the news saying we after another striker, a winger and a midfielder. Must mean Goodwin and/or carney gonna be used at lb imo. Bit surprised about the winger part but I hope it's quality rather than another squaddie

[Jeterpool]

So stubbsy on the news saying we after another striker, a winger and a midfielder. Must mean Goodwin and/or carney gonna be used at lb imo. Bit surprised about the winger part but I hope it's quality rather than another squaddie

Could be for the right?

[Tommyjet]

Could be for the right?

Right side- griff? Hoole, virgili
Left side- carney, Goodwin

Am I missing anyone?
If not then I spose another winger would be necessary

[Jeterpool]

Right side- griff? Hoole, virgili
Left side- carney, Goodwin

Am I missing anyone?
If not then I spose another winger would be necessary

I thought Griff may have been played centrally or off the bench.

However, the way Stubbins is talking, we aren't looking at a LB, so Carney or Goodwin at left back makes more sense. Unless of course Stubbins is going to retain Gallaway there.

I think we have enough "back up" players so I hope the players we are looking at are first team quality. The Nick Ward trialling doesn't fill me with great confidence.

[Grimario]

Wait... the guy deemed not good enough to be re-signed is back trialing with us?!

Sigh. Might as well get Caravan back.

[borat]

Nick Ward was quality while he was here and I for one will welcome his return. Plays a number of positions and was class in the home game, can't remember the opposition, where Heskey pulled out in the warmup and played 10.

I would be happy if Nicky is signed as the winger and a number 6 is also signed on

[Tommyjet]

I thought Griff may have been played centrally or off the bench.

However, the way Stubbins is talking, we aren't looking at a LB, so Carney or Goodwin at left back makes more sense. Unless of course Stubbins is going to retain Gallaway there.

I think we have enough "back up" players so I hope the players we are looking at are first team quality. The Nick Ward trialling doesn't fill me with great confidence.

Yeah I know griff probably more suited to central but unselfishly played wide right back end of last season and still managed to get into great scoring positions and scored a few. Maybe griff and montano swapping throughout the game

[lil_masi]

Post on the newcastle fans page on fb saying birighitti confirmed to be returning to the jets this season.

[leftrightout]

Seriously, when are we going to get another signing?
Its so frustrating waiting around with all of these promises of strikers and midfielders!

[Jetmaster]

The season is three months away - things are good, damn good for a Jets pre-season. I think most clubs keep a spot or two open seeing there is alot of world player trade in July/August.

Remember how late in the piece Heskey and Shinji signed for instance two years ago.

[Grimario]

The season is three months away - things are good, damn good for a Jets pre-season. I think most clubs keep a spot or two open seeing there is alot of world player trade in July/August.

Remember how late in the piece Heskey and Shinji signed for instance two years ago.

You don't see a problem with this? Chaos has been the norm... this feels like a very Jets like off season. Tinkler really needs to up his game and sell the club so we have something going on.

[Jetmaster]

Yes in a sense it's TOO quiet and not normal.......

[belchardo]

did tinks try to hand back the licence after a build up like our current one??

[borat]

did tinks try to hand back the licence after a build up like our current one??

Just before the season started from memory

[lil_masi]

Reports Brillante heading to Fiorentina. Another midfielder to replace!!

[leftrightout]

Reports Brillante heading to Fiorentina. Another midfielder to replace!!

Thats a shame but Serie A would be great for him!

[belchardo]

yes, would be awesome. already proven he can grow the facial hair to fit right in.

http://magazine.topman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/images1.jpg (http://magazine.topman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/images1.jpg)

http://magazine.topman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/AC+Milan+v+US+Lecce+Serie+A+mHH3I8rIh5Ql1-300x200.jpg (http://magazine.topman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/AC+Milan+v+US+Lecce+Serie+A+mHH3I8rIh5Ql1.jpg)

[pv4]

Use the transfer fees from Taggz & Brillante, plus the freed up wages, to get Bresc as Australian Marquee

[Blackmac79]

Use the transfer fees from Taggz & Brillante, plus the freed up wages, to get Bresc as Australian Marquee

This guy.

:grin:

[pv4]

This guy.

:grin:

It'll help us win the FFA Cup.

You on board now?

[The Dunster]

Reports Brillante heading to Fiorentina. Another midfielder to replace!!

There are also rumours about Mikel Arteta leaving Arsenel for Fiorentina. Only problem is neither Arsenel, Arteta or his manager have spoken to anyone from Fiorentina.

So, not a lot of confidence here in anything about Fiorentina.

[borat]

If Brilliante is moving on it might explain why there hasn't been any signing recently. Phil might want to sign a fullback with the loss of Brillante whereas previously he wasn't looking to fill a spot there. Noting the recent article that indicated Goodwin may play fullback this season would like to see Nick Ward signed as a RM or LM option.

[Beeen]

Cannot imagine Brillante getting anywhere near the Fiorentina bench anytime soon. Good luck to the guy.

[Grimario]

He's 21 - I don't imagine Fiorentina would invest in the guy if they don't have a development plan for him. Some intense training pre-season to see what he is capable of and then potentially a loan to a Serie B team or a full season in their reserves set up playing a handful of cup games.

[Grimario]

So, the DT is carrying the story...


NEWCASTLE Jets are poised to lose a second big-name player to an overseas club with Socceroos squad member Josh Brillante set to link with Italian Serie A club Fiorentina.

The Jets are expected to announce Brillante’s move today after the two clubs agreed on a transfer fee for the versatile mid-fielder who was still under contract to the A-League club for another season.

It comes only a fortnight after the Jets’ Golden Boot-winning striker Adam Taggart was released from the final year of his contract to link with English club Fulham.

Say what?!? We released Taggart on a free?!

[Grimario]

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/newcastlejets/news-display/Jets-agree-terms-for-Brillante-transfer/91148


The Newcastle Jets have agreed terms for the transfer of midfielder Josh Brillante to join Italian Serie A Club ACF Fiorentina, subject to a medical.

Brillante will travel to Italy this weekend to finalise his move to the Europa League outfit.

Brillante departs Newcastle after two seasons with the Jets, having made 46 Hyundai A-League appearances.

The 21-year-old was named Newcastle Jets Player of the Year at the conclusion of the 2013/14 campaign, having excelled as both a central midfielder and right fullback.

Brillante’s performances for the Jets earned him a call-up to the Socceroos’ 30-man preliminary squad for the 2014 FIFA World Cup in Brazil.

Brillante said he is excited to begin a new chapter in his football career.

“I’m very excited to be joining Fiorentina and I’m looking forward to the challenge ahead,” Brillante said.

“I’ve had an amazing couple of years at the Jets and I’m very thankful that I came to a Club like Newcastle who develop young players and give them an opportunity.

“Having the chance to play regular first team football has helped my game improve a lot and it is a big reason why I’ve been able to achieve things like playing for the Australian national team.

“The Jets Members have been fantastic over the past couple of years and I’d just like to thank them for their support.

“Newcastle will always be a part of me now and I’ll be keeping an eye on the Jets and hoping the Club does well in the future.”

Jets CEO Robbie Middleby wished Brillante well with his move to Europe.

“As a Club we take great pride in in the way Josh has grown and developed as a footballer during his time at the Newcastle Jets,” Middleby said.

“This is a fantastic opportunity for Josh to join a Club which is competing in one of the toughest leagues in world football and will also playing be in the Europa League next season.

“On behalf of Members and everyone at the Club, I’d like to thank Josh for his services and wish him all the best with his move to Fiorentina.”

[leftrightout]

Say what?!? We released Taggart on a free?!

How did you get that it was free out of that?

[Grimario]

How did you get that it was free out of that?

Released from contract kind of suggests that, doesn't it? Otherwise why use those terms (apart from being the telegraph) when it's simply a stock standard football transfer?

[scarfy96]

Released from contract kind of suggests that, doesn't it? Otherwise why use those terms (apart from being the telegraph) when it's simply a stock standard football transfer?

"The Jets announced on Tuesday night that they had agreed to a transfer fee for Taggart, who had a year to run on his contract in Newcastle."
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2373751/taggart-jetting-off-to-join-fulham/

Sort of indicates it wasn't free. I have a recollection of reading somewhere it was 6 figure but no idea where.

Wow we need to sign a couple of mids now with Josh going as well.

[Grimario]

"The Jets announced on Tuesday night that they had agreed to a transfer fee for Taggart, who had a year to run on his contract in Newcastle."
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2373751/taggart-jetting-off-to-join-fulham/

Sort of indicates it wasn't free. I have a recollection of reading somewhere it was 6 figure but no idea where.

Wow we need to sign a couple of mids now with Josh going as well.

That's good then... guess it's DT being the DT.

[furns]

Nicky Ward nailed on to be signed now

[Jeterpool]

Nicky Ward nailed on to be signed now

My first thought.

Good luck Beard 2nd. I for one will miss him. I really rated him as a player

[snake]

rip brilliantes vigilante's

[Bremsstrahlung]

RE: Taggart

A statement on the club’s official website read: "Fulham Football Club is delighted to announce the signing of Adam Taggart from Australia A-League side Newcastle Jets, for an undisclosed fee."

However, i thought i read somewhere it was $400,000

[belchardo]

RE: Taggart


However, i thought i read somewhere it was $400,000

wasn't that just being touted as his max buy out fee?

[hawk]

I felt Brill was always missing something, only occaisionally impressed me. probs mostly due to age. Cant argue with serie A but.

[Premy]

RE: Taggart


However, i thought i read somewhere it was $400,000
Not certain but I think the figure was £180,000 which is roughly $330,000.

[Grimario]

I felt Brill was always missing something, only occaisionally impressed me. probs mostly due to age. Cant argue with serie A but.

Really? I always thought he looked the most composed of pretty much anyone on the pitch.

[Grimario]

Sky Sports Italia reporting Josh Brillante's transfer to @ACF_Fiorentina is worth €1million. #ALeague #SerieA

...

[MFKS]

...Tinks is rich again:pissup:

[Thomas477]

****ing hell, thats a decent price.

[Grimario]

Tinks is rich again:pissup:

That's what I was thinking. No reinvestment here.

[MFKS]

Actually hold your horses.

There is no way in the world we are getting €1000000 for Brillante when Middleby and Palmer are involved.

I call bullshit.

We would be lucky to get a signed Batistuta shirt a salami stick and a bag of pasta

[pv4]

****ing hell, thats a decent price.

It was meant to be 2m but middleby talked them down