Have heard a few people say they didn't want Sanders as the Democractic representative because he was "too old". The dude is only like 4 years older than Trump
Have heard a few people say they didn't want Sanders as the Democractic representative because he was "too old". The dude is only like 4 years older than Trump
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Damn Sanders just really gets it. Love the shot at the tax-dodging Trump.
“Donald Trump tapped into the anger of a declining middle class that is sick and tired of establishment economics, establishment politics, and the establishment media. People are tired of working longer hours for lower wages, of seeing decent paying jobs go to China and other low-wage countries, of billionaires not paying any federal income taxes, and of not being able to afford a college education for their kids — all while the very rich become much richer.
To the degree that Mr. Trump is serious about pursuing policies that improve the lives of working families in this country, I and other progressives are prepared to work with him. To the degree that he pursues racist, sexist, xenophobic, and anti-environment policies, we will vigorously oppose him."
Oh don't worry I don't think Sanders is a classic commie socialist either, but that's what the media painted him as, so he had to wear it (as Trump was a sexist pig and Clinton was dodgy).
The smartest thing Trump could do is immediately stick Sanders somewhere in cabinet to show how 'inclusive' he intends to be while still giving double middle fingers to the Dems.
I do admire Trumps comeback whenever the 'tax dodging' stuff comes up.
He simply explains that he's utilising the system that the Govt implemented. And he's correct, and the argument then ends.
Now, the test will be whether he now changes that system.
Oh, and just as an aside, this is good Foz at the moment. Points of view, opinion, debate, but no stupidity. Cheers guys.
Yeah it was an extremely clever way to deal with it - the system is broken because politicians set it up, and as a businessman I know what the loopholes are so I can close them if I'm elected.Originally Posted by plague
Yeah those corrupt politicians always getting everything wrong. Trump will shake the system up and fix it.
The whole thing reeks a bit of the "fizzy drink in the bubblers" school captain bit. I'll concede that my view of him has been influenced heavily by media and is therefore biased or possibly outright incorrect (not that they made up his quotes), but as was said, noone here can really claim to have any idea what sort of bloke he is. He could be an ignorant dumbass or a genius who's played out the game 3 moves ahead of everyone.
I'm thinking there could be a few options for how it plays out -
Puppet/figurehead president with well assembled staff etc and everything goes better than expected
The Trump presented by media is legit and runs a sort of dictatorship doing whatever he wants.
Very little to nothing changes and he's reined in by whoever it is that normally pulls the strings, the party or the banks or illuminati, whatever.
As long as he doesn't **** the world over it should be interesting to see how it pans out though.
Something that sparked my interest about Trump's promises was how he didn't like the trade agreements USA has with China and will "definitely renegotiate them". What that says to me, and note I have an extremely naive view of all of this, is USA will end up exporting less to China and that gives Australia the chance to pick up the scraps as it were. Feel free, and please do, correct me if I'm wrong but as I said, naive view of it all. So with my naive view, I've googled and found this page instantly:
http://www.chinabusinessreview.com/w...orts-to-china/
There seems like a fair bit there to me, number 10 sparking my particular interest, that Australia can 100% fill the void IMO.The Top 10 US Exports to China
1. Soybeans: $15 billion
2. Civilian aircraft: $8.4 billion
3. Cotton: $3.4 billion
4. Copper materials: $3 billion
5. Passenger vehicles (small engines): $3 billion
6. Aluminum materials: $2.4 billion
7. Passenger vehicles (large engines): $2.2 billion
8. Electronic integrated circuits: $1.7 billion
9. Corn: $1.3 billion
10. Coal: $1.2 billion
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I think it's the other way round, he wants to put a 45% tariff on Chinese imports.
Maybe Duns can correct me here but the manufacturing jobs that used to be in the Rust Belt (i.e. cars, machines, steel) haven't necessarily gone to China, but to Mexico and Latin America. The Yanks have never made the computers/consoles, phones, televisions etc themselves in high volume for years, but own the companies and make the high-tech parts i.e. circuits at home and ship them off to Asia for final manufacturing.
Their own companies, i.e. Ford, GM, Chrysler etc have sold them out for cheaper labour closer to home, not necessarily the Chinese?
Mexico is the world’s eighth car, truck, part and component producer. It’s main export market is still the United States, even when in recent years, several markets, such as many Latin American countries, have increased their share in Mexican exports.
Hopefully, tensions will cool down over Christmas and they will just let him get down to business in January and then see how it goes from there.
It is interesting trawling some past articles on the possibility of the US becoming so divided that the people could turn on each other...a couple of examples below (one opinion, one fiction). Scary stuff as if there is one country in the free world that is capable of getting stuck into each other it is the USA.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-dr...b_9501120.html
https://www.rt.com/usa/civil-war-2016-us-582/
Last edited by Jetmaster; 10-11-2016 at 05:18 PM.
Why not, pockets of civil war in many countries over the last 25 yrs.
Its all a big beat up sook fest from the demos cause their baby didnt win. The sky didnt fall today and wont tomorrow. Relations will probs improve with mekiko due to Trump shady deals
I think you'll find a lot of the people that are scared of a Trump presidency aren't actually "democrats" per se. They're immigrants, people of colour, women who have been sexually assaulted, people who care about the environment, people who need access to healthcare because they can't afford it. It's not hyperbolic to say people will die because of Obamacare being dismantled - have you looked at the prices of healthcare in the US lately? I was lucky enough to have private health insurance while in the States and it still cost me a damn fortune for the simplest of things - god help those that aren't as fortunate as I am.
By the way Paul Keating is still keeping it real going on a good rant that who gives a **** what the USA does we should focus on Asia. He's been a (public) leader of this his entire career so bless him there's still a bit of fire in the belly.
Interesting discussion between David Axelrod (Chief Strategist for Obama's presidential campaigns) and Jon Stewart a few months back. Provide an interesting framing of the election and the candidates.
It's difficult to say America was ever great based on their history of mass slavery, using an Atomic bomb on women and children - twice, and essentially inventing biological warfare when they handed Native Americans blankets laced with small pox.
Sure they have done some remarkable things as well like the Moon Landings and breast implants. But over all the bad will always outweigh the good.
Fixed.
plus they invented Las Vegas and that place is dope.
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I truly hope the Americans enjoy the creation of their new slave class, serving the robots which will drive their new age of manufacturing dominance
Not to mention the LBTQI community
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I think you'll find Trump is quite supportive of gay rights.
His running mate errrrr, not so much.
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