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    21/22 A-League Men | Match Day 9 | Melbourne Victory v Newcastle Jets

    A-League 2021/22 Match Day 9 Melbourne Victory v Newcastle Jets

    FIXTURE FACTS
    Overall – 49 fixtures between the two teams. Of this, the teams have met on 47 occasions in the A-League and on 2 occasions in the FFA Cup.
    Jets Wins - 19, Victory Wins - 20, Drawn - 10

    In Newcastle – 24 matches.
    Jets Wins - 10, Victory Wins - 7, Drawn - 7
    In Melbourne - 25 matches
    Jets Wins - 9, Victory Wins - 13, Drawn - 3

    Average Home A-League Crowd – 10721
    Average Away A-League Crowd - 16680

    Goals in Fixture
    Jets – 64, Victory - 70
    In Melbourne -
    Jets – 28, Victory - 42

    1st Goals in Fixture
    Jets – 23, Victory - 23

    Cards in Fixture
    Jets - 93 (87 yellow, 6 red), Victory 89 (84 yellow, 5 red)

    Last Result -
    Newcastle Jets 1 (Stamatelopoulos 18') - Melbourne Victory 2 (D Ryan 48', Brooks 79') at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 16, Season 2020/21

    Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2020/21 Match day 16
    Newcastle Jets Melbourne Victory
    Lewis Italiano Matthew Acton
    Matthew Millar Storm Roux
    Lachlan Jackson Dylan Ryan
    Nikolai Topor-Stanley Nicholas Ansell
    Connor O'Toole Adama Traore
    Luka Prso Jacob Butterfield
    Angus Thurgate Jake Brimmer
    Ramy Najjarine Callum McManaman
    Valentino Yuel Jay Barnett
    Apostolos Stamatelopoulos Ben Folami
    Roy O'Donovan Luis Lawrie-Lattanzio

    FIXTURE RECORDS

    Biggest Win
    Jets 4 (Bridge 36’, Bridge 48’, Coveny 51’, J Griffiths 73’) – Victory 0 at Hunter Stadium, Round 21, Season 2006/07, 19/01/2007.

    Heaviest Defeat
    Jets 0 – Victory 5 (Hernandez 41’, Thompson 50’, Allsopp 61’, Allsopp 64’, Brebner 90’), Round 3, Season 2008/09 at Telstra Dome, 29/08/2008.

    Leading Scorers in fixture –

    Jets - Joel Griffiths (5)
    Victory - Archie Thompson (7)


    2020/21 A-LEAGUE SEASON STATISTICS
    Number Name Appearances Starts Subbed On Subbed off Minutes Played Goals Assists Yellow Cards Red Cards
    1 Jack Duncan 8 8 0 0 720 0 0 2 0
    2 Dane Ingham 7 5 2 2 494 0 0 0 0
    3 Jason Hoffman 8 8 0 6 524 0 0 1 0
    4 Jordan Elsey 7 7 0 0 630 0 0 1 0
    5 Ben Kantarovski 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    6 Matthew Jurman 8 8 0 1 658 0 0 0 0
    7 Jordan O'Doherty 8 6 2 5 503 0 0 1 0
    8 Mario Arques 1 0 1 0 12 0 0 0 0
    9 Beka Mikeltadze 7 7 0 2 615 6 1 1 0
    10 Olivier Boumal 8 8 0 4 656 1 2 0 0
    11 Daniel Penha 8 8 0 4 640 1 4 1 0
    14 Mohamed Al-Taay 4 0 4 0 63 0 0 1 0
    15 Dylan Murnane 7 3 4 3 283 1 0 0 0
    16 Kosta Grozos 8 3 5 2 271 0 0 0 0
    17 Valentino Yuel 7 4 3 4 390 3 2 0 0
    20 Michael Weier 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    21 Savvas Siatravanis 6 3 3 3 233 0 0 1 0
    23 Eli Babalj 5 1 4 1 94 0 0 0 0
    25 Samuel Silvera 8 1 7 0 243 0 0 0 0
    26 Archie Goodwin 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    27 Lucas Mauragis 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    28 Blake Archbold 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    30 Noah James 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    32 Angus Thurgate 7 7 0 2 625 2 1 2 0
    44 Riley Warland 4 1 3 1 235 0 0 0 0


    COACHING
    Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
    Arthur Papas - 0 wins, Tony Popovic - 0 wins, 0 drawn

    Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –
    • Arthur Papas - 0 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = N/A% win ratio)
    • Carl Robinson - 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 0 defeats = 0% win ratio)
    • Ernie Merrick - 8 matches (3 wins, 0 drawn, 5 defeats = 38% win ratio)
    • Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 drawn, 2 defeats = 0% win ratio)
    • Scott Miller - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 defeat = 33% win ratio)
    • Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 defeat = 33% win ratio)
    • Clayton Zane – 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 0 defeat = 0% win ratio)
    • Gary Van Egmond – 16 matches (10 wins, 2 drawn and 4 defeats = 63% win ratio)
    • Craig Deans - 2 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 1 defeat = 50% win ratio)
    • Branko Culina – 6 matches (1 wins, 2 drawn, 3 defeats = 17% win ratio)
    • Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 defeat = 0% win ratio)
    • Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 defeat = 33% win ratio)


    Melbourne Victory Coach Record – Tony Popovic 57% win ratio (12 wins, 5 drawn, 4 losses)
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    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
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    Would love to know why Goodwin,Archbold,Mauragis have not made a match day squad. We have had Hoff play left back and he looks uncomfortable out there. We have lacked any punch of the bench all year Goodwin provided that last year

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    Tweet on Arques and touch on Mauragis

    https://twitter.com/bradfogarty101/s...72917458685953
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
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    Have we signed a injury prone dud? Signs are not good. Unless your O Doherty who gets to keep starting

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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    Have we signed a injury prone dud?
    On the surface it appears that way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
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    To be fair we have got our recruitment rate up

    3 out of 5 is a great ratio

    Beka Penha Boumal are all great signings

    The Greek bloke the jury is out on and the Spanish guy is MIA

    I would take that ratio of successful signings every season

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    To be fair we have got our recruitment rate up

    3 out of 5 is a great ratio

    Beka Penha Boumal are all great signings

    The Greek bloke the jury is out on and the Spanish guy is MIA

    I would take that ratio of successful signings every season
    Agree
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    To be fair we have got our recruitment rate up

    3 out of 5 is a great ratio

    Beka Penha Boumal are all great signings

    The Greek bloke the jury is out on and the Spanish guy is MIA

    I would take that ratio of successful signings every season
    At the Jets 3 out of 5 success rate on recruitment is unbelievable

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    Party tricks don't impress me, none of them have shown anything to get excited about, passing to a Jets player would be a good start
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    Gotta say, comparing to our past recruitment, this season has been amazing..

    I've been arguing with Frodo about this..
    He loves Penha, I still think the jury is out on him.. (I totally agree that Boumal and Miekeltadze have been great, particularly Beka)
    I get so frustrated with Penha cause he does some absolutely amazing stuff, and then other times he just passes it straight to the opposition, or shoots from roughly halfway, or dives cause someone looked at him.. etc..

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    Beka is brilliant, just wish he wouldnt always drop deep, Similar issues with Penha who also could release the ball quicker. Boumal is starting to annoy me, bit of a ball hog and tries to beat 2 or 3 players instead of passing to the open man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bon View Post
    Gotta say, comparing to our past recruitment, this season has been amazing..

    I've been arguing with Frodo about this..
    He loves Penha, I still think the jury is out on him.. (I totally agree that Boumal and Miekeltadze have been great, particularly Beka)
    I get so frustrated with Penha cause he does some absolutely amazing stuff, and then other times he just passes it straight to the opposition, or shoots from roughly halfway, or dives cause someone looked at him.. etc..
    Not trying to compare quality at all.. But this Penha situation reminds me slightly of Ozil at Arsenal. When we are on top and things are rosy, he links up constantly and looks a class above, but when things aren't going well and we aren't on top (teams are set up to control us) he looks like he forcing things and frustrates. Plus, even though they both track back and defend, because they pick and choose the best times to do so it appears they are lazy. It also makes a difference when we have more than one passing option available, over the last 2 games we've been flat and not working off the ball, which is also why Boumal has looked isolated.


    The flipside of us looking more flat has been that we haven't died after 65 mins and been overran towards the end of the game. Maybe Papas is trying to find a pace that means we can still attack/transition at pace like we did at the start of the season but have some legs to finish the game off, going to 3 atb was also interesting to me. That's a simple way to transition between all out attack and all out defence, as Stanny would know from Conte's days at Chelsea. Marquis being unavailable might also force us drop to a 2 man midfield as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    Not trying to compare quality at all.. But this Penha situation reminds me slightly of Ozil at Arsenal. When we are on top and things are rosy, he links up constantly and looks a class above, but when things aren't going well and we aren't on top (teams are set up to control us) he looks like he forcing things and frustrates. Plus, even though they both track back and defend, because they pick and choose the best times to do so it appears they are lazy. It also makes a difference when we have more than one passing option available, over the last 2 games we've been flat and not working off the ball, which is also why Boumal has looked isolated.


    The flipside of us looking more flat has been that we haven't died after 65 mins and been overran towards the end of the game. Maybe Papas is trying to find a pace that means we can still attack/transition at pace like we did at the start of the season but have some legs to finish the game off, going to 3 atb was also interesting to me. That's a simple way to transition between all out attack and all out defence, as Stanny would know from Conte's days at Chelsea. Marquis being unavailable might also force us drop to a 2 man midfield as well.
    And Tuchel atm but was it a back 3? Looked like Savas went to right back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    On the surface it appears that way.
    And he's in the starting 11 tonight... Papas playing games?

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    Mikeltadze is playing striker, midfield and defence. Mays well chuck some gloves on him too

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    And again we concede on half time.....

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    Argues body wise, not up to it

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    Our Manager needs to take a good hard look at himself

    That midfield of ours is absolutely honking at actually getting about the place

    That goal came after repeatedly Grozos and Arques made very little effort to actually run time and time again

    Eventually it cost us

    I get the fact that we have limited depth in our squad but FMD tactically this was obvious all half and it is really not a dereliction of duty that either personnel or tactics have not been adjusted

    I get we ain't playing well either but that was one soft goal to concede

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    Do we have a CDM tonight?

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    Wow some finish

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