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    How unfit and lazy is Broich these days ? Not that he was ever a workhorse in the past - but in the first half the Roar made a few good breaks and he was 40 yards away from the ball sucking in the big ones.

    I will be very surprised if he lasts another season. He looks absolutely shot.

    Even Hoffman managed to take the ball off him on several occasions. Three seasons ago that would never have happened.

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    how were the shoutouts pre game? how many did they show, wouldnt be surprised if they cut them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha View Post
    how were the shoutouts pre game? how many did they show, wouldnt be surprised if they cut them
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    Cowburn imo should be starting this weekend if boogard or triffo misses another week and we have to move kanta to accommodate.

    Cowburn has been fantastic every time he has come on the park.

    I went to the youth game yesterday morning and cooper didn't break a sweat and still was the best player on the park easily, he needs more game time.

    I agree our bench isn't the greatest and wasn't at its strongest on Saturday but cooper should at least be getting some minutes.
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    Do people think that Poljak has the ability to hold the centre of the park on his own like Corona did for Brisbane?

    I accept Brisbane have more mobile midfielders around him in McKay and Petratos and I think this is where the plan falls down.

    --------------Poljak-------------

    -----Leonardo-------Cooper---

    Alivodic-----Triffo------Carney

    I was also very impressed with Crowley's workrate. A number of times he tracked back to pressure the midfielder and win the ball back which is something I haven't seen Milos do. There also seemed to be more versatility in the front third with him on. He moved out wide a few times and Enver came central.

    I agree that I'd like to see more of Cowburn but I thought Hoffman had his best game of the year on the weekend and doesn't deserve to be dropped. Cowburn as the holder in place of Watson would be interesting to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BodyNovo View Post
    I went to the youth game yesterday morning and cooper didn't break a sweat and still was the best player on the park easily, he needs more game time.

    I agree our bench isn't the greatest and wasn't at its strongest on Saturday but cooper should at least be getting some minutes.
    Isn't that the Virgili argument though?

    Cowburn agree with, how he hasn't been signed on a full time deal yet still blows my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Isn't that the Virgili argument though?

    Cowburn agree with, how he hasn't been signed on a full time deal yet still blows my mind.
    I agree with you. Cooper when he started against City was one of the most insipid performances I have seen in a jets shirt. And there have been plenty. Says it all that the game turned on its head when he was dragged and a defensive midfielder played as No. 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Isn't that the Virgili argument though?

    Cowburn agree with, how he hasn't been signed on a full time deal yet still blows my mind.
    I think they are 2 different sorts of players

    Cooper has received one half off football and another 10 minute stint elsewhere.

    I would hardly say that is being given a fair go.

    Admittingly he was poor in that city game but he wasn't the only one

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    Quote Originally Posted by BodyNovo View Post
    I think they are 2 different sorts of players

    Cooper has received one half off football and another 10 minute stint elsewhere.

    I would hardly say that is being given a fair go.

    Admittingly he was poor in that city game but he wasn't the only one
    Cooper has made 4 appearances this year. 1 minute Rd1, 11 minutes Rd2, 6 minutes rd 3 and the 45 minutes against City.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Isn't that the Virgili argument though?

    Cowburn agree with, how he hasn't been signed on a full time deal yet still blows my mind.
    There are dozens of players in the HAL that come into this category. Look like world beaters at yoof level but when the time comes to step up they falter.

    I watched the scum v wankerers game on Fox yesterday and look at players like Fitzgerald and think how the f^&k do players of his quality get a gig.

    The standard of some of the cattle running around in the league is deplorable. Warren, Gibbs, our very own Watson and i have not even started yet FMD.

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    Oh, there's no doubt that there isn't enough senior talent to fill the 9 Australian teams that we have now... and it's a shame that people like Warren get a gig when there is probably an U20 left back just crying out for some first team experience to develop into something better than Warren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    Do people think that Poljak has the ability to hold the centre of the park on his own like Corona did for Brisbane?

    I accept Brisbane have more mobile midfielders around him in McKay and Petratos and I think this is where the plan falls down.

    --------------Poljak-------------

    -----Leonardo-------Cooper---

    Alivodic-----Triffo------Carney

    I was also very impressed with Crowley's workrate. A number of times he tracked back to pressure the midfielder and win the ball back which is something I haven't seen Milos do. There also seemed to be more versatility in the front third with him on. He moved out wide a few times and Enver came central.

    I agree that I'd like to see more of Cowburn but I thought Hoffman had his best game of the year on the weekend and doesn't deserve to be dropped. Cowburn as the holder in place of Watson would be interesting to see.
    I don't think Pojlak has enough to his game to work as a lone holding midfielder.

    He's more of a workhorse and works well with a more composed partner. I've never been overly impressed with his passing ability or vision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parksey View Post
    I don't think Pojlak has enough to his game to work as a lone holding midfielder.

    He's more of a workhorse and works well with a more composed partner. I've never been overly impressed with his passing ability or vision.
    Poljak is similar in some ways to Caravella, it's funny how players like them seem to divide opinion in that you are either a fan or you are not. My opinion is that the coach and team-mates sem to love a player like this in their team who places the team above himself and works tirelessly, tidying things up with a minimum of fuss, keeping it simple, keeping the ball moving, linking the defence and attack. It seems that they don't do much but you don't really notice them until they are out and not playing, then you notice their true worth to the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopper2 View Post
    Poljak is similar in some ways to Caravella, keeping it simple, keeping the ball moving, linking the defence and attack.
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    Biggest difference is Poljak can pass forward, Uturn seemed incapable of that towards the end.
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    In slight defence of Poljak(and having 2 def mids).
    We never use them in attack.
    During the gypos match Miller was screaming at Hoffman to keep playing square instead of going the line to carney every time.
    Hoff did it once and we walked the ball up the park easy then went straight back to hoofing it up the line for carney not to chase.
    Meanwhile 2 blokes are standing in the middle of the park doing nowt. (Made to look even worse cause the gypos were down to 10).
    If you're gonna have them there you need to incorporate them better in the build up.
    We don't do that very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    In slight defence of Poljak(and having 2 def mids).
    We never use them in attack.
    During the gypos match Miller was screaming at Hoffman to keep playing square instead of going the line to carney every time.
    Hoff did it once and we walked the ball up the park easy then went straight back to hoofing it up the line for carney not to chase.
    Meanwhile 2 blokes are standing in the middle of the park doing nowt. (Made to look even worse cause the gypos were down to 10).
    If you're gonna have them there you need to incorporate them better in the build up.
    We don't do that very well.
    100% agree I dont get the whole playing down the narrow corridor when CM sit in the middle scratching their ass. People get such tunnel vision these days. Football is a game of angles.

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    The difference is when we play Kanta as a DM. Kanta is able to get forward a lot more and support.

    And I don't believe that Poljak and Watson are necessarily to blame for not getting forward. We lose the ball regularly up front leaving the DMs to do all the clean up.

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