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    Quote Originally Posted by tomo View Post
    How do you know it wasnt the player who requested a short term deal to see if he can settle in over here before committing to a longer stay?

    How do you know that miller hasnt already got a list of dead wood he's going to cull at seasons end? And a list of recruits for next season?

    You have to remember, he came in here needing about 10 players, with fvck all money left in the salary cap, no cap concessions, no marquee money available, and not many decent free agents left. He has assembled a squad that he could afford. Maybe at seasons end when he culls some people that are not earning the coin theyre on (watson), and maybe an owner willing to throw some money around... Maybe then we'll see some better players and some more attractive football

    No wonder the clubs a "basketcase" when half of the fans are too!
    What makes you think he has a plan for seasons end??

    Why exactly is he waiting to start unveiling this masterplan??

    What makes you think when his best signing is Hoffman he has the ability to find the right players when he has failed with Milos Leonardo and where he has spent his money he had??

    Also Watson is his signing so stop trying to Palm that off when he is responsible for signing him and picking him


    Maybe if a few more fans actually were prepared to hold these running out club to account from time to time we wouldn't be in this big of a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    I gave you a suggestion.

    You have failed to address it.

    Why ???

    Joel Michael Griffiths.

    Still waiting on your response.
    Griff said he will probably not play A-League again only last week. A 35 year old crock deserves a contract over a 32 year old with no injury concerns?

    Please, a bit of levity here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetmaster View Post
    Griff said he will probably not play A-League again only last week. A 35 year old crock deserves a contract over a 32 year old with no injury concerns?

    Please, a bit of levity here.
    still prob better on one leg than the donkeys we got.....
    Dare to Zlatan

    Originally Posted by Grimario

    He won't make that mistake at Newcastle since our team is full of number 2's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by synapse101 View Post
    I quoted you on this on the pod recording last night. Sorry that I couldn't remember who said it to give you a shout out at the time. So sorry and thanks! :/
    No worries at all.

    Had a listen today to the Jetstream and have done so for the last few weeks. Very entertaining, quite enjoy the weekly discussion.

    Based on the dribble I have read in the last few pages the podcast is almost reaching enlightened levels of knowledgeable discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by borat View Post
    No worries at all.

    Had a listen today to the Jetstream and have done so for the last few weeks. Very entertaining, quite enjoy the weekly discussion.

    Based on the dribble I have read in the last few pages the podcast is almost reaching enlightened levels of knowledgeable discussion


    Glad you're enjoying it
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    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
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    Castelen in bench for Wanderers. Has happened a few times this season. Would kill to have a player like that here!

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    Just to add a bit of perspective that seems to be sorely lacking in some:
    There are top flight clubs in Europe who have scouting networks, direct contracts with OPTA and other stat companies, managers with decades of contacts with clubs and personnel in football. And their success rates aren't that high either.
    What makes everyone think that a rookie coach and a part time CEO at a club without an owner in a salary capped league can accomplish transfer miracles? You hedge your bets, try to make the best decision on all the available information and hope that it works out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by furns View Post
    What makes everyone think that a rookie coach and a part time CEO at a club without an owner in a salary capped league can accomplish transfer miracles?
    Maybe coz he seems pretty adamant and comfortable telling everyone how garbage the current players are.

    Just figured he would then be cool cool with exactly what/who he wants

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    I gave you a suggestion.

    You have failed to address it.

    Why ???

    Joel Michael Griffiths.

    Still waiting on your response.
    He'll be 37 when the next season starts. If you honestly think you need any more reasoning than that as to why we should look elsewhere, you're just embarrassing yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS;143***
    What makes you think he has a plan for seasons end??

    Why exactly is he waiting to start unveiling this masterplan??

    What makes you think when his best signing is Hoffman he has the ability to find the right players when he has failed with Milos Leonardo and where he has spent his money he had??

    Also Watson is his signing so stop trying to Palm that off when he is responsible for signing him and picking him


    Maybe if a few more fans actually were prepared to hold these running out club to account from time to time we wouldn't be in this big of a mess.
    What sweeping changes can he make right now? It's like you've never followed football before. You complain about Watson, Trif & Leo, yet it seems the two new signings just happen to address both Watsons position and Trif and/or Leo's position. We can't offload shit players unless someone else wants them, so if no one wants them, which is highly ****ing probable, we might as well keep them until seasons end for numbers if nothing else.

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    Of all things to criticise Miller for, his recruitment skills is not one of them. People have pretty short memories of some of the dross this club has recruited over the years, particularly the foreign contingent.

    Trifunovic and Leonardo are really not nearly as poor as being made out to be. Infact without describing them as world beaters they are reasonable quality compared to what we usually sign. If Trifunovic can hit 10+ goals would just about make him one of our highest goal scorers ever behind Griff and Tags. Leonardo I beleive is a quality player, with his limitations. Has been crocked for sure but it's a gamble we were prepared to take.

    On Morts, was the leading scorer in the Danish top flight twice. That's a decent pedigree. Yes he was playing 2nd tier recently.....might be an indication he no longer has it or may have been signed by an ambitious club. Who knows, but a 10 game stint will tell. When we are on the verge of acquiring a new owner why would we ever tie up a foreign spot for longer than we need to.

    Millers naivity with tactics, his rigid formations and a lack of midfield quality in the squad are all things to criticise about.

    For mind jury is still out on Miller. He took on a very tough gig, has made a fist of it, but the end of the season will tell me where he is at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halo se7en View Post
    What sweeping changes can he make right now? .
    I mean, full strength piss is a no brainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borat View Post
    Of all things to criticise Miller for, his recruitment skills is not one of them. People have pretty short memories of some of the dross this club has recruited over the years, particularly the foreign contingent.

    Trifunovic and Leonardo are really not nearly as poor as being made out to be. Infact without describing them as world beaters they are reasonable quality compared to what we usually sign. If Trifunovic can hit 10+ goals would just about make him one of our highest goal scorers ever behind Griff and Tags. Leonardo I beleive is a quality player, with his limitations. Has been crocked for sure but it's a gamble we were prepared to take.

    On Morts, was the leading scorer in the Danish top flight twice. That's a decent pedigree. Yes he was playing 2nd tier recently.....might be an indication he no longer has it or may have been signed by an ambitious club. Who knows, but a 10 game stint will tell. When we are on the verge of acquiring a new owner why would we ever tie up a foreign spot for longer than we need to.

    Millers naivity with tactics, his rigid formations and a lack of midfield quality in the squad are all things to criticise about.

    For mind jury is still out on Miller. He took on a very tough gig, has made a fist of it, but the end of the season will tell me where he is at.
    bang on big marn, good too see you back on the fozzle tbh.

    the triffo-mortis connection will be the hook up of the a-league season imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by q-money View Post
    bang on big marn, good too see you back on the fozzle tbh.

    the triffo-mortis connection will be the hook up of the a-league season imo
    IMO Trifunovic will get better because of the Morten signing. There'll be less pressure on him now, and he'll finally have a recognised striker partnering him up front..... If we keep playing 4-4-2 and not revert back to a sole striker...

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    Quote Originally Posted by furns View Post
    Just to add a bit of perspective that seems to be sorely lacking in some:
    There are top flight clubs in Europe who have scouting networks, direct contracts with OPTA and other stat companies, managers with decades of contacts with clubs and personnel in football. And their success rates aren't that high either.
    What makes everyone think that a rookie coach and a part time CEO at a club without an owner in a salary capped league can accomplish transfer miracles? You hedge your bets, try to make the best decision on all the available information and hope that it works out.
    That is too sensible and realistic for a select few forumers to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borat View Post

    Millers naivity with tactics, his rigid formations and a lack of midfield quality in the squad are all things to criticise about.
    Once again, thanks for listening to the podcast :-)

    Spot. On.

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    I think I'm looking forward to Members impending trip to Thailand more than he is

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    Quote Originally Posted by furns View Post
    Just to add a bit of perspective that seems to be sorely lacking in some:
    There are top flight clubs in Europe who have scouting networks, direct contracts with OPTA and other stat companies, managers with decades of contacts with clubs and personnel in football. And their success rates aren't that high either.
    What makes everyone think that a rookie coach and a part time CEO at a club without an owner in a salary capped league can accomplish transfer miracles? You hedge your bets, try to make the best decision on all the available information and hope that it works out.
    That's actually a bit of a cop out Furns

    No one is actually asking for transfer miracles. Reality is Miller has accomplished sweet **** all in his transfer dealings and blaming the club being a basketcase does not negate that he still has made many wrong decisions with his signings so far



    Clubs in Europe spend millions of pounds/euros on transfer fees we don't. As a result their is a huge level of pressure on getting it right

    Our club when scouring Europe for players only responsibilities are to

    FIND BETTER PLAYERS THAN WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY
    FIND PLAYERS THAT FIT INTO OUR WAGE STRUCTURE
    FIND PLAYERS WHO HAVE THE RIGHT LEVEL OF SOCIAL SKILLS THEY WILL SETTLE INTO AUSSIE LIFE
    FIND PLAYERS THAT WILL FIT INTO THE TEAMS STYLE OF PLAY

    Same same for everyone else in the HAL

    I ain' seeing the rest of the clubs having huge scouting networks to tap into bar Melburn Heart with their Man City links and even then how much support Heart get their is iffy as Man City ain't gonna be scouting players of the level Heart require.



    We in this country have very little pressure and a pretty easy task.

    Every other club can seem to find decent players for this league that don't require a huge scouting network and be done with minimal expense

    Broich Berisha Bonavecia Keogh Carrusco just a few to name

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo se7en View Post
    What sweeping changes can he make right now? It's like you've never followed football before. You complain about Watson, Trif & Leo, yet it seems the two new signings just happen to address both Watsons position and Trif and/or Leo's position. We can't offload shit players unless someone else wants them, so if no one wants them, which is highly ****ing probable, we might as well keep them until seasons end for numbers if nothing else.
    The two signings address Watson Leo and Trifs positions you say.

    The two signings are actually attempting to address Millers failings in signing all 3 of them in the first place.

    Sweeping changes. Should have been started in pre season when he assessed his squad. People should have been moved out there and then so he could bring in players he wants.

    Carney LeakyG Alivodic Boogaard Birraz Mullen all have value to other HAL sides/ Foreign Clubs. They were not his signings and he chose to persist with them into this season keeping the noose around the club Muppet put on by signing players for too much coin.

    Getting rid of a few of them would have left him with a much larger pot of money to spend on building his side.
    He did nothing.

    Then he proceeded to waste away what money he had by getting his signings of note like Leonardo/Milos wrong.


    As for off loading players someone at our club managed to rid us once of an under contract Sam Gallaway. Anything is possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    That's actually a bit of a cop out Furns

    No one is actually asking for transfer miracles. Reality is Miller has accomplished sweet **** all in his transfer dealings and blaming the club being a basketcase does not negate that he still has made many wrong decisions with his signings so far



    Clubs in Europe spend millions of pounds/euros on transfer fees we don't. As a result their is a huge level of pressure on getting it right

    Our club when scouring Europe for players only responsibilities are to

    FIND BETTER PLAYERS THAN WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY
    FIND PLAYERS THAT FIT INTO OUR WAGE STRUCTURE
    FIND PLAYERS WHO HAVE THE RIGHT LEVEL OF SOCIAL SKILLS THEY WILL SETTLE INTO AUSSIE LIFE
    FIND PLAYERS THAT WILL FIT INTO THE TEAMS STYLE OF PLAY

    Same same for everyone else in the HAL

    I ain' seeing the rest of the clubs having huge scouting networks to tap into bar Melburn Heart with their Man City links and even then how much support Heart get their is iffy as Man City ain't gonna be scouting players of the level Heart require.



    We in this country have very little pressure and a pretty easy task.

    Every other club can seem to find decent players for this league that don't require a huge scouting network and be done with minimal expense

    Broich Berisha Bonavecia Keogh Carrusco just a few to name
    Fornaroli, benkalfhala, Novillo, delpierre, fatty, Tavares, Ninkovic, holosko + few of the Spanish Armada at WSW and Adelaide...... To name few more....... Us triffo and Leo FFS...!!!!!
    Dare to Zlatan

    Originally Posted by Grimario

    He won't make that mistake at Newcastle since our team is full of number 2's.

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