Jones is Out (pg 49)

[Grimario]

fixed your mistake grim.

So Jets

[pv4]

He cracked the shits at being subbed off.

Walked past the players sitting down, reserve keeper put his hand out to high five and Hoole did his best effort to slap his hand completely off his arm.

TBH if I'm creating a league-high amount of chances for my team to do nothing with I reckon I'd crack the shits at being subbed off too.

[StannyCFCJET]

He cracked the shits at being subbed off.

Walked past the players sitting down, reserve keeper put his hand out to high five and Hoole did his best effort to slap his hand completely off his arm.

TBH if I'm creating a league-high amount of chances for my team to do nothing with I reckon I'd crack the shits at being subbed off too.

Probably annoyed at not getting interest from overseas clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona

[Bon]

Probably annoyed at not getting interest from overseas clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona

Shoulda spoken to Kanta for his Bayern contacts..

[Jetmaster]

So......where has it all gone wrong?

After the win in Coffs we were sitting pretty at fifth and Nabbout was top of the Alex Tobin medal. We were playing entertaining football and even if the result didn't quite go right we were having a go and scoring goals. Since that game....

* We failed to make any January signings
* We dumped three players
* Nabbout has gone missing
* Any confidence Hoole was building evaporated
* We started playing around with our backline
* Duncan got injured
* Brown went off the boil as soon as he left in Brisbane
* Clut has vanished
* Poljak got dropped without good reason
* Miller's Scando trio of Brown. Nobby and Kokko look half the players they were

What is the core issue that has caused us to fall from 4th to a likely last in two months?

[WolfMan]

Either way, make a decision now.
If we sticking with Jones, so be it, announce it, let him get the squad he wants, let him put his job on the line with his selections and recruitment an make a decision at the January transfer window if we are still floundering.
If we are getting somebody else, lets get them, announce them. Let's make a decision now. If we get somebody new, let's not give them the excuse of "Not my squad".

100% agree.

I also don't believe Jones is the man for the job, but they either need to back him to the hilt, or cut bait

[WolfMan]

Could you imagine 2 Scots going at it?

lemonparty.org

[pv4]

* We dumped three players
* Nabbout has gone missing
* Any confidence Hoole was building evaporated
* We started playing around with our backline
* Duncan got injured
* Brown went off the boil as soon as he left in Brisbane
* Clut has vanished
* Poljak got dropped without good reason
* Miller's Scando trio of Brown. Nobby and Kokko look half the players they were

What is the core issue that has caused us to fall from 4th to a likely last in two months?

According to MFKFC, Jones & Lowey - none of these can be blamed on the coaching staff.

[plague]

In terms of the football and tactics, I don't think there's anything wrong. We just again (made) some individual mistakes.

We had a look at the stats and at least 75%, perhaps more now, have been individual errors that cost us games

Member is right, it's all the players fault.

[MFKS]

Member is right, it's all the players fault.

But in all seriousness Jones is right.

It the players that are the problem

Look at Nordstrand ****ing that chance up at the weekend. That just sums this lot up.

Then you throw in stuff like Jackson's air swing v Perth
Boogaard and Mullens penalties
Hoffman's og
Duncan ****ed a couple up against Adelaide too

This the problem these blokes make glaring **** ups again and again at both ends of the park

Can't coach that level of shit into people
Can't coach that level of shit out of people

[Grimario]

This the problem these blokes make glaring **** ups again and again at both ends of the park

****wit coach keeps selecting these blokes again and again despite these glaring errors. That's the players fault too, I assume?

[StannyCFCJET]

This the problem these blokes make glaring **** ups again and again at both ends of the park

And get picked week after week by who? Jones while guys like Labi ride the pine.

[plague]

Is anyone else a bit baffled by his "75%" figure?

Wouldn't at least 75% of goals conceded in every game in every league in every country in the world be attributed to an individual error?

Missed tackle, out jumped header, bad keeper position, poor defensive positioning. Aren't they all individual errors of some description?

How else do teams get goals?

[MFKS]

****wit coach keeps selecting these blokes again and again despite these glaring errors. That's the players fault too, I assume?

Now name the blokes in our 23 man squad who ain't getting selected and are doing better than the ones that are??

I think every ****er has had a run at some stage this season

[MFKS]

Is anyone else a bit baffled by his "75%" figure?

Wouldn't at least 75% of goals conceded in every game in every league in every country in the world be attributed to an individual error?

Missed tackle, out jumped header, bad keeper position, poor defensive positioning. Aren't they all individual errors of some description?

How else do teams get goals?

Seriously Plague 75%

That a statistic

How the **** you fall for that when it you of all people who made the infamous statement on stats

[Wilso8948]

Member is speaking SOME truth. I don't think Jones is a world beating coach by any stretch but we seriously lack so much quality in this squad it's not funny. His selections are a little bit questionable but who honestly do you replace them with? Cowburn is not an upgrade on Mullen. Vujica is showing promise but honestly is still a bit of a hack. Labi is no better then any striker we have. Kokko has failed. Nordstrand is not clinical. We have no CBs who are better quality then Jackson or Boogard. Poljak, Brown and co really only offer the 'workhorse' factor in midfield and are relatively limited in their abilities with the ball. Ugarkovic is good for numerous errors a game. Kanta is less of a player then all of these guys. I think we offered a little more class when we had either Lei or Clut playing at 10. But really these guys are nothing compared to the quality we see in other squads playing in the same position.
Our coach is a hack.
Our players are shit.
Changing the coach MAY mean we attract better quality players here.
Significant investment in the playing roster is what's needed. If Jones can man manage whilst letting quality players do their thing on the pitch then keep him. If he can't then piss him off and get someone who can.
Take a look at Perth. Were horseshit with a poor roster when Lowe first in charge. Most couldn't believe Kenny kept his job. They invested heavily in the squad whilst keeping him and they've turned into a genuine finals contender every year since.
ps. I don't care if Jones is coach or not.
Just my two cents.

[Macca]

Seriously Plague 75%

That a statistic

How the **** you fall for that when it you of all people who made the infamous statement on stats

You're missing the point. He's not surprised at the number of 75%. More so saying (guessing here as I haven't heard where the original quote was from) that using the excuse that those goals don't count or shouldn't be a concern/his fault because one of the players made a mistake is pretty horse shit since the vast majority of goals can be attributed to an individual error somewhere along the line.

[StannyCFCJET]

Member is speaking SOME truth. I don't think Jones is a world beating coach by any stretch but we seriously lack so much quality in this squad it's not funny. His selections are a little bit questionable but who honestly do you replace them with? Cowburn is an upgrade on Mullen. Vujica is showing promise but honestly is still a bit of a hack but worth playing over Mullen. Labi is no better then any striker we have. Kokko has failed. Nordstrand is not clinical yet Labi showed more then they have in weeks In his cameo on the weekend but doesnt get picked We have no CBs who are better quality then Jackson or Boogard. Poljak, Brown and co really only offer the 'workhorse' factor in midfield and are relatively limited in their abilities with the ball, however Brown has done nothing with and without the ball pretty much since round 1 yet keeps getting picked. Ugarkovic is good but his teammates are retarted and offer him no options when he has the ball. Kanta is less of a player then all of these guys and was finished 3 years ago and is still here. I think we offered a little more class when we had either Lei or Clut playing at 10 but neither are starting or being selected atm well done Jones. But really these guys are nothing compared to the quality we see in other squads playing in the same position.
Our coach is a hack.
Our players are shit.
Changing the coach MAY mean we attract better quality players here.
Significant investment in the playing roster is what's needed. If Jones can man manage whilst letting quality players do their thing on the pitch then keep him. If he can't then piss him off and get someone who can.
Take a look at Perth. Were horseshit with a poor roster when Lowe first in charge. Most couldn't believe Kenny kept his job. They invested heavily in the squad whilst keeping him and they've turned into a genuine finals contender every year since.
ps. I don't care if Jones is coach or not.
Just my two cents.

Fixed also Kenny Lowe should have Perth as a top 2 team with that roster but has them very incosistent. Jones has sent our squad backwards why do people assume he will do better with better players, It will still be his coaching and tactics and youre also saying keep Jones who hasn't shown enough to warrant keeping and when he ****s up sack him mid/early season which will be this season all over again

[StannyCFCJET]

Is anyone else a bit baffled by his "75%" figure?

Wouldn't at least 75% of goals conceded in every game in every league in every country in the world be attributed to an individual error?

Missed tackle, out jumped header, bad keeper position, poor defensive positioning. Aren't they all individual errors of some description?

How else do teams get goals?

If these goals are from players mistakes Jones either finds away to cut out the mistakes or drops them for a few weeks. He is doing neither!

[Bon]

Stanny ploppin' out some truth nuggets..