Secondly, to bring the discussion about why Liverpool should still be favourites with City for the title, into the correct thread.

Am I correct in that the only key players gone from the title winning season are Wijnaldum and Lovren? And in their place you've signed 2 decent quality backup CBs, a good backup LB, Thiago and you've also got Jota as well? If the Ox can stay fit he almost counts as a new signing as well.


I know Chelsea are stacked, but they still have issues and an inconsistent Kante could be their downfall.

United have added Ronaldo and Varane, but they still haven't truly fixed the 9 position and have weak backup CBs. They will be better than last season, but I'm not confident they can be at their best for a full season.