If those clubs can get more points with 4 teams than other clubs with 5 teams that suggests the 4 teams at Adamstown/NIAS are 4 strong teams and will compete strongly. Isn?t that the reason for the split so the teams are all relatively ?even?Originally Posted by Hunter403
Yes its a fair point but I dont believe its a good look.Im sure NNSW said one year of a missing team is ok,but consecutive years will be punished.I dont mind that as a policy.
I agree with the policy. But also with 4 teams I can?t imagine they will finish in the top 4 in Div 2
NIAS is given its own special rules by NNSWF because they have gone multiple years missing an age group(s) without consequence. Get rid of them I say.
100% plus any other club that doesn?t fill quota of teams
Draws are up.
It looks like they have reset the ladders, don't believe this happen last year?
Div 1 big break down with the split
1. NCF ~ 112Pts (GD +70)
2. Magic ~ 105Pts (GD +103)
3. Edgeworth ~ 103Pts (GD +66)
4. Jaffas ~ 101Pts (GD +52)
5. Olympic ~ 94Pts (GD +64)
6. Lake Macquarie ~ 93Pts (GD +21)
7. Valentine ~ 87Pts (GD +16)
8. Maitland ~ 70Pts (GD +6)
RELEGATED
9. Mid Coast ~ 49Pts (GD -90)
10. Weston ~ 48Pts (GD -77)
11. New Lambton ~ 43Pts (GD -82)
12. Cooks Hill ~ 28Pts (GD -146)
A couple of teams have some catchup games
Olympic and New Lambton have an entire round against each other
And Valentine and Weston have a catchup in 18s
No idea how these will be caught up in a fair manner, i.e. what is in those games for the relegated teams; how will this effect placings at the end of the season for tier 1 (who don?t reset their points), etc
Of those relegates out of top 8 positions
U13: Mid Coast 8th
U14: New Lambton 8th separated to 7th on GD
U15: Weston 7th
U16: Mid Coast 4th separated to 3rd on GD and Weston 7th
U18: New Lambton 8th separated to 7th on GD
Of the safe teams, the luckiest safe team sits in last place with 1 win and 2 draws
Team with the best Goals For: Magic U13s (51)
Team with the Lowest GA: NCF U18s (5)
Highest win ratio:
(Team) Lake Macquarie U13s ~ 91% (Olympic 14s was 90% with an unplayed game)
(Club) NCF ~ 62%
Top 4 each age group: (if finals were held today)
13s ~ Lakes, Magic, Jaffas, NCF
14s ~ Olympic, Valo, Edgeworth, NCF
15s ~ Olympic, Jaffas, Magic, Valentine
16s ~ NCF, Magic, Jaffas, Mid Coast
18s ~ Edgeworth, NCF, Olympic, Jaffas
Div 2 and 3 reset last year, Div 1 was continuous...has Div 1 been reset also?
Yep looks like Div 1 reset unless it just hasn't populated yet.
Where can I see division 1 draw
bloody hell, Jeterpool must be at home either quaking in his boots or
In all seriousness, appreciate the effort and time it takes to put these things together. Takes 2 minutes to read, but far longer to produce for the enjoyment of the foz.
Super impressive work and been very good for the first half of the year 👍
We have been told all points and stats will carry over in Div 1 for the 2nd half of the year.They must not have been updated on the table yet but will be.I have been told 2 different outcomes for the unplayed New Lambton v Olympic round from different people who usually know whats going on so I'm not sure what to believe.
Weston and Cooks Hill both clubs are spending big dollars on their TD'S, working a treat both have been relegated.
Great job. Got stat's on the other half of the comp?
You mean Tier II? (Or the girls)
(I've kept stats for Tier I, II and Syd Div.1 boys competitions)
I'll prepare a similar report tomorrow for tier II if that's what you mean
PYL tier 2. Cheers.You mean Tier II? (Or the girls)
(I've kept stats for Tier I, II and Syd Div.1 boys competitions)
I'll prepare a similar report tomorrow for tier II if that's what you mean
Div 2
Half season break
1. Charlestown ~ 112Pts (GD +140)
2. South Cardiff ~ 102Pts (GD +96)
3. Belswans ~ 93Pts (GD +81)
4. NIAS ~ 72Pts (GD+65) ? relegated despite
RELEGATED
5. Rosebuds ~ 72Pts (GD +57)
6. Kahibah ~ 70Pts (GD -32)
7. West Wallsend ~ 63Pts (GD +3)
8. Cessnock ~ 61Pts (GD -19)
9. Toronto ~ 33Pts (GD -156)
10. Thornton ~ 32Pts (GD -73)
11. Singleton ~ 20Pts (GD -162)
12. VACANT
Rosebuds missing games against Singleton in 16s & 14s (might explain the NIAS relegation). If the games didn't go ahead, they obviously won't be now.
Of those relegated out of top 4 positions
(4 clubs staying in tier 2)
U13: NIAS 1st
U14: Kahibah 1st
U15: Kahibah 1st
U16: NIAS 4th
U18: West Wallsend 4th
Of the safe teams:
The luckiest team sits in 8th position with 3 wins, 2 draws
(negative GD, and a win ratio of just 30%)
Team with the best Goals For: shared
NIAS U13s & Charlestown U16s
(Both on 50, NIAS with the better goal difference, conceding just 7)
Team with the Lowest GA: Charlestown U15s (4)
Highest win ratio:
(Team) South Cardiff U16s ~ 90%
(Club) Charlestown ~ 72.9%
Top 4 each age group: (if finals were held today/relegation was by team and not club)
13s ~ NIAS, Rosebuds, South Cardiff, Charlestown
14s ~ Kahibah, Charlestown, Rosebuds, Belswans
15s ~ Kahibah, Charlestown, Belswans, South Cardiff
16s ~ South Cardiff, Belswans, Charlestown, NIAS
18s ~ Charlestown, South Cardiff, Belswans, West Wallsend
Which would be fairer, TBH
With 3 teams in first place being relegated
NIAS 13s have the greatest GD in tier II, of any age group (+43)?how does tier III now benefit those kids? To play against teams with a -42 or -58 GD for the rest of the year
How does Kahibah retain and grow for next year? If pro/rel was by team they could build on the successes of those 1st places. Now, their most talented kids will likely look elsewhere?because, despite their team and individual "excellence", they are pushed down by averages.
It would have been right to have let those kids play out the remainder of the year, and earn a trophy they deserve before a reshuffle based on club average
I was told that Rosebuds needed to only win the first game (13's) to get their PPG average above NIAS and guarantee promotion.They played the first game,won,got their PPG over NIAS then the rest of the games were called off due to weather.Pretty lucky huh.Anyway,they would have won at least one more game that day but luckily it all worked out for them and they stay up.The bigger issue is that if teams got 3 points for the win against a club that didnt field a team then Kahibah would still be in Div 2 and Rosebuds would be down.It turns out Kahibah were the only club that was punished for Rosebuds and NIAS not fielding teams.
This needs addressing by NNSW. The lack of a punishment on the table is no deterrent.
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