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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    I just wish they put a solid end date on phase 1 and told clubs any games that couldnt be caught up were going to be decided on PPG and got on with it.Only 1 club will be left out due to phase 1 not being decided this way.The extension of phase 1 has made the original plan for phase 2 untenable.One round for phase 2 but 2 legged semis fits the time frame for ground availability.And no,double headers are off the table after last years issues and playing extra mid week games leaves no room for washouts for phase 2.They cant start the season any earlier and are obviously on and end date to hand grounds back.Try again next year I suppose.
    Should've been what they done, just end this weekend, declare it as PPG and then all of Phase 2 could still get in. As it is looking, looks like Phase 1 may still be decided on PPG anyway.

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    Cutting phase 2 is a joke. NNSW could have made it happen. Theyre too lazy and arrogant to do their job properly. Well done idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addios View Post
    Cutting phase 2 is a joke. NNSW could have made it happen. Theyre too lazy and arrogant to do their job properly. Well done idiots.
    They wanted to extend Phase 2 all the way till the end of October. Majority of clubs pushed back and said no, so the alternative was to go with the old system, but add the two leg semi-final and also an additional game for those teams that miss finals.

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    Very dissapointing to hear if true. Yep, should have cut phase 1 now and base off ppg system. To basically sacrifice phase 2 for phase 1 grading system is stupid.
    So once again teams in B and C comps for phase 2 get a 7 game competition.

    Any thoughts to put on a league cup type competition then to give some meaningful games?. They could do a league cup for each individual A, B and C. Would only be in a pool of 8, so quarter, semi and final meaning 3 extra games for the finalists and something extra to play for besides a 7 game sprint.

    I mean last year they tried to do an overall Cup competition which fell away after the first round without even a word on why it was scrapped (i assume weather related).

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    Just seen Newcastle football made the decision to call off the whole round given conditions.
    What are the chances northern makes same call this weekend given how many pyl, and jdl kids would been in affected areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Box2Box View Post

    I mean last year they tried to do an overall Cup competition which fell away after the first round without even a word on why it was scrapped (i assume weather related).
    Yes was dropped after Round 2 because of weather and needing to fit in games.

    It was scrapped entirely this year to get in the expanded Phase 2.

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    Completely agree.
    The 2 phase season doesn?t work.
    With decoupling there is no reason that we need to start with 2 groups of 12. Just schedule a 3 tier competition with 21 games and either 1 up 1 down pro/rel or a 4 team playoff for top and bottom 2. Incorporate 2 leg semis and finals in the top tier to satisfy the original stated aim of more meaningful games. We can?t keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thefoolwhofollows View Post
    Completely agree.
    The 2 phase season doesn?t work.
    With decoupling there is no reason that we need to start with 2 groups of 12. Just schedule a 3 tier competition with 21 games and either 1 up 1 down pro/rel or a 4 team playoff for top and bottom 2. Incorporate 2 leg semis and finals in the top tier to satisfy the original stated aim of more meaningful games. We can?t keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
    Agree with this, this is the second season in a row that the end of phase 1 has caused utter chaos. Not to mention the fact that families and volunteers have no idea what the schedule is for the second half of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Game_over View Post
    Agree with this, this is the second season in a row that the end of phase 1 has caused utter chaos.
    Only through choice, they could just follow the regulations and say it is points per game. Too many clubs jump up and down and complain about that though. Northern need to just say no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Only through choice, they could just follow the regulations and say it is points per game. Too many clubs jump up and down and complain about that though. Northern need to just say no.
    The issue is that some clubs (im sure you know which ones) would look to utilise this as loop holes and not play games if it was to thier advantage. My personal oppinion is that its just an over complicated season, you dont see the premier league and Championship swap leagues halfway through the season. happy for people to not agree, just my oppinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Only through choice, they could just follow the regulations and say it is points per game. Too many clubs jump up and down and complain about that though. Northern need to just say no.
    If your a parent and pay several thousands of dollars thinking you are getting X amount of games now they reduce it by 10 games do you get a partial refund?

    Northern needed to get a set of balls and kick off all training at the facility 2-3 weeks ago and start scheduling games. Don?t wait for clubs to pick dates cause they all have a motive and becomes drawn out. The Federation should say X is playing Y at this date and time and if you don?t like it you can forfeit. That way the comp keeps moving.

    Also how many days break do u/13 need between games I?d say if they play Monday they can go again Wednesday

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    Just play midweek and weekends when this slop passes over. We can fit the games in with a tiny bit of organisational common sense.

    Yes i offered to help the peanuts being overpaid in the office. no, the NNSW morons didnt want free assistance.
    Last edited by Addios; 23-05-2025 at 10:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thefoolwhofollows View Post
    Completely agree.
    The 2 phase season doesn?t work.
    With decoupling there is no reason that we need to start with 2 groups of 12. Just schedule a 3 tier competition with 21 games and either 1 up 1 down pro/rel or a 4 team playoff for top and bottom 2. Incorporate 2 leg semis and finals in the top tier to satisfy the original stated aim of more meaningful games. We can?t keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
    I personally like the 2 phase system but yes the weather hasnt given anyone a chance in the past 2 years.People will complain that making the promotion/relegation based on a 2 or even 4 leg phase isnt a true indication either.Which ever way we look at it there isnt a perfect system and Im happy for them to keep this plan in place until they get a few years of sample data.I think everyone agrees though the end of phase 1 is the real problem,NNSW just needs to have an end date and a plan in place and get on with the 2nd half of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Only through choice, they could just follow the regulations and say it is points per game. Too many clubs jump up and down and complain about that though. Northern need to just say no.
    Strongly agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addios View Post
    Just play midweek and weekends when this slop passes over. We can fit the games in with a tiny bit of organisational common sense.
    Lack of referees and the 3 travelling clubs make this virtually impossible on short notice.

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    What if councils stopped being so precious about playing fields?

    The only reason a game gets cancelled should be when the field is unplayable.

    In Newcastle, a 5 minute shower is enough to cancel training sessions and games.

    Go anywhere in Europe, football fields where junior teams play have very little grass on them sometimes: playing is the priority, grass will grow back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mic22 View Post
    What if councils stopped being so precious about playing fields?

    The only reason a game gets cancelled should be when the field is unplayable.

    In Newcastle, a 5 minute shower is enough to cancel training sessions and games.

    Go anywhere in Europe, football fields where junior teams play have very little grass on them sometimes: playing is the priority, grass will grow back.
    Exactly. those weeks when fields were a bit "iffy" they couldve played, then when the real sh*t goes down it doesnt matter as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mic22 View Post
    What if councils stopped being so precious about playing fields?

    The only reason a game gets cancelled should be when the field is unplayable.

    In Newcastle, a 5 minute shower is enough to cancel training sessions and games.

    Go anywhere in Europe, football fields where junior teams play have very little grass on them sometimes: playing is the priority, grass will grow back.
    And you are probably the same person when little Johnny gets injured because of the state of the pitch you go complain to council 🤷*♂️

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    And you are probably the same person when little Johnny gets injured because of the state of the pitch you go complain to council ��*♂️
    Hmm, can you elaborate please?
    Where do you get that assumption? Why would I "probably" be that person?

    And why the patronizing tone?
    Little Johnny, really?

    We're just having a discussion here.
    Last edited by mic22; 27-05-2025 at 12:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addios View Post
    Exactly. those weeks when fields were a bit "iffy" they couldve played, then when the real sh*t goes down it doesnt matter as much.
    Except playing early in the season when they are a bit iffy wrecks the grounds, takes out grass and means that it takes longer to recover later on in the season when we do get downpours meaning more games are missed than otherwise.

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