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    Are there any games scheduled for this weekend. You would think Northern would be driving this and rescheduling a whole round to this weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hacker View Post
    Are there any games scheduled for this weekend. You would think Northern would be driving this and rescheduling a whole round to this weekend
    Yes there are, quick look on Squadi will show which games are scheduled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Yes there are, quick look on Squadi will show which games are scheduled.
    heaps of washout games every night this week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Except playing early in the season when they are a bit iffy wrecks the grounds, takes out grass and means that it takes longer to recover later on in the season when we do get downpours meaning more games are missed than otherwise.
    Um, when there's downpours there's no games on so fields will still recover and have less catchups in short succession.
    Quote Originally Posted by MurderOnZidanesFloor View Post
    Croatia proving it?s not much of a jump. 10-2 aggregate against the 2024 GF winners, Suns haven?t been the same since the 6-0 trouncing. Croudace Bay will dispose of the aging mid table teams in 2026.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mic22 View Post
    Hmm, can you elaborate please?
    Where do you get that assumption? Why would I "probably" be that person?

    And why the patronizing tone?
    Little Johnny, really?

    We're just having a discussion here.
    There's a few on here who do this infantile stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by MurderOnZidanesFloor View Post
    Croatia proving it?s not much of a jump. 10-2 aggregate against the 2024 GF winners, Suns haven?t been the same since the 6-0 trouncing. Croudace Bay will dispose of the aging mid table teams in 2026.

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    Heard Northern have now said get all games in over next two weeks but not all will be able to be played so they are using PPG to determine Phase 2.

    Northern are now doing what they should've done the first time and we still could've got 14 games in for Phase 2 and unless one team loses all their games and the other wins all theirs there is no change to the make up of the 3 leagues.

    Would like to know why Northern decided to finish Phase 1 and not just follow their own competition rules, which clubs were complaining to them about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Heard Northern have now said get all games in over next two weeks but not all will be able to be played so they are using PPG to determine Phase 2.

    Northern are now doing what they should've done the first time and we still could've got 14 games in for Phase 2 and unless one team loses all their games and the other wins all theirs there is no change to the make up of the 3 leagues.

    Would like to know why Northern decided to finish Phase 1 and not just follow their own competition rules, which clubs were complaining to them about it?
    Phase 2 will be one round only.Teams will play each other once.

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    Northern should refund part of the clubs rego fees then. Less games played due to phase 2 reduction means less money they have to pay to council for ground hire and less payments for referees.

    Will this happen or do they justify it by saying they had to use that money to pay for catch up games at Lake Mac synthetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by outsider View Post
    Phase 2 will be one round only.Teams will play each other once.
    I know because they said they want to finish all Phase 1 games instead of following their own rules and just deciding Phase 2 on PPG so Phase 2 will start later. But they have now said not all the games will be played so they will be doing PPG on Phase 1 anyway.

    They should've just done that in the first place and Phase 2 could be starting next weekend with the originally planned 14 games.

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    Im usually pretty quick to defend NNSW but they have to admit they stuffed up here.They had procedures in place and the clubs all knew it but they once again changed direction and made things more difficult.As for any clubs complaining,they are the first people NNSW should ignore as they are only interested in themselves where as NNSW should be all about the whole program.Its a shame as the 2 round phase 2 would have been great but looks like we have to wait til next year again.

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    It is a real shame that phase 2 will only be the 1 round. If phase 2 started on the weekend of the 7/8 June, then it would have been completed the weekend of 6/7 September, GF played weekend 20/21 September, which seems reasonable. If NNSW were really worried about equity, base the relegation on PPG (the relegated clubs are already locked in anyways) and reset the points for Div 1 as well.

    As others have said, nearly 30% of the league season wiped off is a bit hard to take.
    Last edited by Izzy; 30-05-2025 at 03:41 PM.

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    Seems like NNSW (and clubs, to some extent) are happy to do less and less.
    Less games, less training... and then somehow they expect to develop young players?

    An 18 games season is ridiculous.

    For what is worth, I'll be sending a complaint letter and a request for a partial refund.

  13. #413
    A question without notice for the brains trust. My teenage son referees locally in the North Coast Football community competition. I noticed recently that there was a 10% 'fee' deducted from his referring wages each week. When I questioned NCF about this, the answer was that is to cover the 'cost of administration' for the referees department. Does NNSW do this for their refs? NCF wages match those published on the NNSW website LESS the 10% fee.

    It seems very odd to me that the kids (and adults) are responsible for these costs and not registration fees from the players. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    A question without notice for the brains trust. My teenage son referees locally in the North Coast Football community competition. I noticed recently that there was a 10% 'fee' deducted from his referring wages each week. When I questioned NCF about this, the answer was that is to cover the 'cost of administration' for the referees department. Does NNSW do this for their refs? NCF wages match those published on the NNSW website LESS the 10% fee.

    It seems very odd to me that the kids (and adults) are responsible for these costs and not registration fees from the players. Thoughts?
    Yes they do and its just the cost of doing business IMHO.The refs get paid more than pretty much every other youth job and its tax free so they are well in front financially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    A question without notice for the brains trust. My teenage son referees locally in the North Coast Football community competition. I noticed recently that there was a 10% 'fee' deducted from his referring wages each week. When I questioned NCF about this, the answer was that is to cover the 'cost of administration' for the referees department. Does NNSW do this for their refs? NCF wages match those published on the NNSW website LESS the 10% fee.

    It seems very odd to me that the kids (and adults) are responsible for these costs and not registration fees from the players. Thoughts?
    When I was a ref, there were some fees associated with it. 10% sounds about right.
    Clubs would pay cash on the day. Association would send a monthly statement.
    I think it was acceptable as like a “finders fee” for them finding and allocating you the work.

    I guess they need some funding to survive.
    And each club used to do things differently with players too, especially with interdistrict comps, some clubs would say, add a bulk payment as part of rego to cover all match fees. Others would forgo this and teams would pay the referees per game. (Usually juniors were covered by club paying us and seniors was players passing the hat around haha).

    I assume/hope things have become a bit more streamlined, but your post suggests otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    A question without notice for the brains trust. My teenage son referees locally in the North Coast Football community competition. I noticed recently that there was a 10% 'fee' deducted from his referring wages each week. When I questioned NCF about this, the answer was that is to cover the 'cost of administration' for the referees department. Does NNSW do this for their refs? NCF wages match those published on the NNSW website LESS the 10% fee.

    It seems very odd to me that the kids (and adults) are responsible for these costs and not registration fees from the players. Thoughts?
    Referees have been charged a percentage of their fees (10% currently)for as long as I can remember-nothing new-You will find that each referees branch will charge a fee including NNSW.

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    Any whispers on when phase 2 of PYL will actually start. With games still to be played this weekend will Northern try and start phase 2 the following weekend 14 June or will they give themselves an extra week to sort out the draw and commence on weekend of 21 June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Box2Box View Post
    Any whispers on when phase 2 of PYL will actually start. With games still to be played this weekend will Northern try and start phase 2 the following weekend 14 June or will they give themselves an extra week to sort out the draw and commence on weekend of 21 June.
    Poor that your club hasn't told you games to start the weekend 14th/15th June

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    Latest Div 1 PPR table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung View Post
    When I was a ref, there were some fees associated with it. 10% sounds about right.
    Clubs would pay cash on the day. Association would send a monthly statement.
    I think it was acceptable as like a “finders fee” for them finding and allocating you the work.

    I guess they need some funding to survive.
    And each club used to do things differently with players too, especially with interdistrict comps, some clubs would say, add a bulk payment as part of rego to cover all match fees. Others would forgo this and teams would pay the referees per game. (Usually juniors were covered by club paying us and seniors was players passing the hat around haha).

    I assume/hope things have become a bit more streamlined, but your post suggests otherwise.
    Obviously the 'ref dept' needs funding to survive, but I would question why it is not funded by the users of the service (players/parents via rego fees) rather than the providers of the service.

    I will agreeably disagree with others on this one. It fails the pub test for me.

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