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    I posted this

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    Purely a guess, but the name Phil Stubbins hasn't been mentioned on here for a long time..
    Two days later Ray Gatt says this

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    Jets job down to Either Lee Clark or Phil Stubbins...
    I without a doubt believe Gatt is reading this foz
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    FFA to charge A-League clubs $250,000 fee for tours by European giants

    Football Federation Australia has attracted the ire of A-League club owners by moving to impose a $250,000 sanction fee on any international friendly matches the clubs organise against famous overseas teams.

    Clubs were recently informed of the change, which could put in jeopardy future tour matches such as the clash between Melbourne Victory and English Premier League giants Liverpool last year that attracted 95,000 spectators to the Melbourne Cricket Ground.

    FFA also organises its own matches against overseas opposition through the A-League All Stars team, which played Manchester United last year and will meet Italian club Juventus in Sydney in August.

    Previously it charged the club 5 per cent of gate takings to sanction other matches.
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    The Juventus match is the next high-profile event on the football calendar after the Socceroos play South Africa on May 26.

    It is understood the FFA is in negotiations with a top English side for the 2015 off-season and has approached European clubs to tour in 2016. It is hoped an announcement on the 2015 match will come by the end of this year.

    Club sources say the increased payment, as well as the FFA already holding broadcast rights to the matches, is aimed at deterring clubs from organising their own matches and instead leaving the overseas tours for only the All-Stars, from which the FFA can make up to $1 million a match.

    Manchester City have already withdrawn from a May tour during which they had planned to play their subsidiary, Melbourne Heart, and Brisbane Roar, while clubs such as Melbourne Victory are reconsidering plans for 2015 matches.

    However, it is understood the FFA sees the move as ensuring clubs only bring out top-class opponents capable of generating large financial returns that would allow for the new sanction fee to be affordable.

    Some matches in recent years, including Victory versus Greek team Olympiakos, have failed to generate large financial returns.


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    what a load of bull. god FFA are a bunch of interfering so and so's sometimes.

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    Don't understand why FFA would want to interfere with things like that TBH. If they already get a decent percentage of gate-takings, if they got TV hosting rights, etc - they're already making enough money out of it. And the league as a whole gets "free" marketing out of it - the A-League brand is broadened, etc all for the cost of that club team doing the leg-work to get the match organised.
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    to make sure you bring out teams that will make money, weel take money off you.

    well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    Don't understand why FFA would want to interfere with things like that TBH. If they already get a decent percentage of gate-takings, if they got TV hosting rights, etc - they're already making enough money out of it. And the league as a whole gets "free" marketing out of it - the A-League brand is broadened, etc all for the cost of that club team doing the leg-work to get the match organised.
    simple really, they only want the all stars to be the off season attraction. I'd also put money on them potentially looking to increase it from one all stars game to perhaps two, one in Sydney & one in Melbourne perhaps with different teams.

    If I was a Melbourne, Sydney or even Nix fan I'd be pissed, but seeing we are not going to be organising any glamour off season friendlies I really don't care that much.

    The real down side is that this basically locks in that clubs will need to use large, unsuitable AFL scale stadia if they want to take the risk so they have as many seats to sell as possible, that or the prices are going to rise considerably.
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    Nice, Has experience in ACL. Hopefully he can bring some of the success he had at Adelaide a few years ago with him.

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    MELBOURNE Victory have suffered a blow with gun left-back Adama Traore quitting the A-League club.

    Traore, 24, has informed the club in recent days and it’s believed he will pursue a career overseas, despite getting his Australian citizenship a month ago.

    Victory was optimistically planning for life with Ivorian-born Traore, with his citizenship opening up another visa spot, but he rejected the club’s new multi-year offer.

    However it’s believed rival A-League clubs will attempt to scupper Traore’s plans to move abroad, tempting him with offers in excess of $200,000-a-year.

    It’s believed Traore’s Socceroos ineligibility _ due to him playing an African Under 21 qualifying match with Ivory Coast _ played a part in his decision to quit Victory.

    With James Troisi and Tom Rogic set to return to parent clubs Atalanta and Celtic respectively, Victory is now nervously awaiting an answer from Brazilian Gui Finkler.

    Victory has tabled a new and improved two-year offer to the attacking midfielder, but at least two other clubs are interested, including Sydney FC who are looking for an Alessandro Del Piero replacement.

    Traore’s offer was also understood to be well above the $180,000-a-year deal he signed when joining from Gold Coast United two years ago.

    Traore was immense in his 43 Victory appearances and demonstrated his versatility this season by filling it at centre-back on occasions.

    He along with Troisi will be favourites to take out Friday’s best and fairest.
    Middleby Leave no stone unturned trying to sign this bloke FFS

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    Would take

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    Yes definitely would take. But again, has to be the right price. He is a brilliant player and we need a left back (unless they start playing goodwin there again) but really for his price, i dont know.
    Would it be worth taking up that much of the salary cap?
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    Everyone can forget about Traore playing for us right now.

    He could make whatever money he wanted at any HAL club, but the fact of the matter is he came to Australia for the sole purpose of playing for the NT one day. That dream has been taken away from him, so now he has his citizenship (& I think I saw that he got an Australian girlfriend, not sure) - there's nothing keeping him here. He could earn 3 times what any HAL club could pay him by playing in a better league in Asia. But he has a Euorpean dream, and he is pursuing it. He's informed MV he's leaving to Europe, which says to me he has several options lined up already. He won't play in Australia again unless his o/s dreams fail and/or he comes back on a retirement type plan IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    Everyone can forget about Traore playing for us right now.

    He could make whatever money he wanted at any HAL club, but the fact of the matter is he came to Australia for the sole purpose of playing for the NT one day. That dream has been taken away from him, so now he has his citizenship (& I think I saw that he got an Australian girlfriend, not sure) - there's nothing keeping him here. He could earn 3 times what any HAL club could pay him by playing in a better league in Asia. But he has a Euorpean dream, and he is pursuing it. He's informed MV he's leaving to Europe, which says to me he has several options lined up already. He won't play in Australia again unless his o/s dreams fail and/or he comes back on a retirement type plan IMO.
    +1 agree totally. More annoyed that he can't play for Australia to be honest. Would have solved a massive problem position

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    Cant he play for australia in a couple of years, the same thing that Tim Cahill did. ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobra23 View Post
    Cant he play for australia in a couple of years, the same thing that Tim Cahill did. ???
    No. Difference with Timmy is that he was eligible for Australia when he played for Samoa youth. Traore was not eligible for Australia when he played for Ivory Coast youth so will never be eligible for Australian senior team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobra23 View Post
    Cant he play for australia in a couple of years, the same thing that Tim Cahill did. ???
    FIFA keep chopping & changing their minds about this kind of thing, and there have been some cases of this new rule not in effect back then, etc. But recently (in the last year) they've put the iron fist down and developed the definite rule that will never allow Traore to play for the Socceroos.

    The rule is: if you are originally eligible to play for two countries, and play for the youth team of one of the countries, you can play for the senior team of the other country. However, if you are not eligible for one country, play for the youth team of a country you are in fact eligible for, and then after playing for that youth team you earn eligibility to another country - you can't play for that country. So basically, you can't switch allegiances if you've represented a country at youth level and weren't eligible for the other country before playing at youth level. So when Traore played youth level for IC, he was only eligible for IC. Now, he has earned eligibility for Australia but because he didn't have it before playing for IC youth, he can't switch.
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    100% agree with this part pv4:

    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    FIFA keep chopping & changing their minds about this kind of thing, and there have been some cases of this new rule not in effect back then, etc.
    Where is the evidence for this part?

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    But recently (in the last year) they've put the iron fist down and developed the definite rule that will never allow Traore to play for the Socceroos.
    How do you know this rule is any more definite than any of the others?

    Also key point that was missed in your recount of the ruling was that Traore played for Ivory Coast youth in a competitive tournament.
    The competitive tournament bit is the key here. You can still play for the youth team of another country as long as it isn't a competitive match. Same goes for the senior team, as long as it isn't a competitive match you can still play for a future country who you are not eligible to play for at the time (e.g Diego Costa).


    I still think the rule is bullshit and I'm guessing it will change within 5 years.
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    deadset the diego costa ruling is a farce. he has legit played for brazil's senior team more than once.

    how he is allowed to represent spain from now on, while someone like traore is cast out into the international wilderness, is a disgrace.
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    ^ completely agree.
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    http://m.theaustralian.com.au/sport/...-1226909472633

    The Australian reporting that Arnold will be announced as Smurfs Manager tomorrow.
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    On 1.8m for 3 years. Compared to the reported paltry 750k we had offered him...

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