2017/18 Squad Thread

[Premy]

Think we can do better with some of our shit cunce on the books

Alessi
Clut
Shabow
Kosta Petratos
Brown
Cowburn
Jackson

Think we can strengthen in this area and get some better value for these lower paid players

On that list I'm happy to keep Cowburn and Jackson at the right price. I think we might see Thurgate come into the senior team next season.

[The Dunster]

I'd be looking at the squad in its entirety rather than trying to micro manage it and bring disharmony to the squad.

I mean at what price would we release Kosta Petratos given a lot of clubs will be wanting Dimi on their books - might sway him to leave ?

I'd let Clut and Alessi go and maybe Brown - although on recent form Brown is definitely making a case for himself.

Clut has had plenty of time to cement his position in the squad and I have no idea who Alessi is so it's hard to make a case for him.

Shebow shows promise and would be cheap enough to keep for another year as he's still young.

Boogs might need a pay cut but He's been good recently as well.

NTS probably deserves to be the highest paid of our centre back pair.

Finally though, the way the team is playing and recent success / great coach means we finally won't be paying overs for players anymore.
Players will want to come here - may even do it for less that elsewhere so they can play exciting football - which they won't be able to do at any other A-league club - especially SFC.

[Bon]

Word is that Ernie has told Clut to start looking for a new club..

[De-Champ]

Think we can do better with some of our shit cunce on the books

Alessi
Clut
Shabow
Kosta Petratos
Brown
Cowburn
Jackson

Think we can strengthen in this area and get some better value for these lower paid players

Brown signed a two year contract at the start of this year/season.

[The Camel]

Brown signed a two year contract at the start of this year/season.

Not quite. He was signed by Miller to a two year deal (which would have expired at this season's end). Jones extended his contract for an extra year after 1 A League game, I believe this was the last contract decision he was allowed to be in charge of as Griffo was brought in after that in his current role.

[lil_masi]

Not quite. He was signed by Miller to a two year deal (which would have expired at this season's end). Jones extended his contract for an extra year after 1 A League game, I believe this was the last contract decision he was allowed to be in charge of as Griffo was brought in after that in his current role.

Miller signed Brown to 1 year, Jones extended it by 2

[The Camel]

Think we can do better with some of our shit cunce on the books

Alessi
Clut
Shabow
Kosta Petratos
Brown
Cowburn
Jackson

Think we can strengthen in this area and get some better value for these lower paid players

Looking at that list.

Alessi - Agree
Clut - Agree
Shabow - Would be on minimum wage I would think, happy to keep on that for another 12 months to see if there is more development otherwise replace with Thurgate or Antonee Burke who I have heard looks like he has potential
Kosta Petratos - Another who would surely be on the minimum, I would keep purely to keep Dimi in the head space he is now
Brown - Is still on contract but if we could offload I think for a decently paid foreigner we could do better. I'd be seeing if the club could secure McGree in this sport permanently
Cowburn - Keep IMO, Very versatile squad player who is capable at A League level and still young enough to have improvement
Jackson - Another I quite like and think could improve. However if Tongyik was available I would sign him over Jackson in a heartbeat (although I would replace Boogaard with Tongyik and keep Jackson)

[plague]

Boogaard out. Johnny K in.

Is Brown gonna take Kantas spot just because of their contract situations, esp with McGree coming in?

[Macca]

If Rodriguez and Vargas both sign on for next year then some of our other attackers have to be let go. Agree with Dunster's thoughts on Kosta, if it helps keeping Dimi around then he should stay I think. One of Clut or Shabow has to leave, although both have done ok off the bench. At least one fullback should be let go. Between Georgievski, Vujica, Hoffman, Johnny K, Cowburn (if he stays), and Jackson there should be plenty of cover there.

Potentially look at a young striker although someone mentioned Thurgate may move to our squad next year.

In the next couple of years we are going to need some centre backs too.

Wouldn't be surprised if we have to fend off offers for a few players, and potentially may lose one or two if the offers are too good to turn down and we have available options.

[Jeterpool]

Miller signed Brown to 1 year, Jones extended it by 2

Nope, Miller signed Brown for 2 years, then after the Roar game in his 1st season he was extended by an additional year.

[The Dunster]

Wouldn't be surprised if we have to fend off offers for a few players, and potentially may lose one or two if the offers are too good to turn down and we have available options.

True - but the attractive attacking football the team is playing now is a massive incentive for players to stay and also for us to get new players in.

If players are only concerned with money and don't mind playing shit football in front of half a dozen fans they can sign with SFC.

[Grimario]

True - but the attractive attacking football the team is playing now is a massive incentive for players to stay and also for us to get new players in.

If players are only concerned with money and don't mind playing shit football in front of half a dozen fans they can sign with SFC.

Of course players are only concerned with money. No one cares about playing attractive football.

[Mark325]

Think we can do better with some of our shit cunce on the books

Alessi
Clut
Shabow
Kosta Petratos
Brown
Cowburn
Jackson

Think we can strengthen in this area and get some better value for these lower paid players

I could see us moving on Alessi, Clut, Shabow & Jackson. Alessi hasn't been used, unfortunately Clut and Shabow are in positions that we are overstocked in and Jackson hasn't progressed enough.

Kosta is worth keeping around as leverage to keep dimi around for longer, Brown is difficult due to still having a year on his contract but if he can be offloaded he should be and cowburn offers good utility across the backline and midfield so he's worth keeping around

Even though Boogs has actually had a decent season overall, I would say he should be moved on as well and replaced by a younger kid such as ruon tongyik who's off contract at seasons end. Try and sign kanta and hoff as outside the cap players, along with re-signing Vargas as marquee, and if possible get Mcgree on loan for next season as well to offer midfield coverage

[leftrightout]

Anyone see the kid Victory have that came on up high on the left on Saturday night, Theo.....something
He looked sharp as!

[Mark325]

Anyone see the kid Victory have that came on up high on the left on Saturday night, Theo.....something
He looked sharp as!

Believe youre talking about Christian Theoharous

[halo se7en]

I'd say Clut is done. Friday night was his chance to show why he should stay here and he didn't perform. He wasn't thrown into a difficult match either, we had the run of the first half so he could have offered a lot more than he did.

[Mark325]

I'd say Clut is done. Friday night was his chance to show why he should stay here and he didn't perform. He wasn't thrown into a difficult match either, we had the run of the first half so he could have offered a lot more than he did.

he wasn't bad but he wasn't good enough considering the quality within this team in the attacking third

[halo se7en]

he wasn't bad but he wasn't good enough considering the quality within this team in the attacking third

I remember one shot from just outside the box with little pressure and he hit the thing with no conviction at all. Few other passes went astray too but essentially I don’t remember him doing anything that stood out either. That was his big chance.

[leftrightout]

Believe youre talking about Christian Theoharous

That’s him, I was impressed. Looked good one on one, decent delivery into the box. We are pretty good for options in his position but quality depth can only be a good thing right?

[Mark325]

That’s him, I was impressed. Looked good one on one, decent delivery into the box. We are pretty good for options in his position but quality depth can only be a good thing right?

With a fully healthy team, and assuming we re-sign certain off contract players we'll have a front four of Roy, Dimi, Pato & Vargas. Behind them will be nabbout, champness and probably hoff. behind them will be shabow and kosta, and possibly a youth player getting a senior contract as well. At that point, I don't really know if we'd need another attacking based football in the team, maybe a back-up striker at best but i'm not even sure that's a necessity.

Front third is completely sorted, we should focus on improving the backline first and foremost, then looking at the midfields.

[MFKS]

With a fully healthy team, and assuming we re-sign certain off contract players we'll have a front four of Roy, Dimi, Pato & Vargas. Behind them will be nabbout, champness and probably hoff. behind them will be shabow and kosta, and possibly a youth player getting a senior contract as well. At that point, I don't really know if we'd need another attacking based football in the team, maybe a back-up striker at best but i'm not even sure that's a necessity.

Front third is completely sorted, we should focus on improving the backline first and foremost, then looking at the midfields.

Mate we need a back up striker

FMD

It clear as day we need someone

Nabbout is trying but he ain't a HAL level no 9

[StannyCFCJET]

Mate we need a back up striker

FMD

It clear as day we need someone

Nabbout is trying but he ain't a HAL level no 9

He's playing as good as any HAL number 9 bar Bobo

[mic22]

Mate we need a back up striker

FMD

It clear as day we need someone

Nabbout is trying but he ain't a HAL level no 9

Agree, we need a backup for Roy: it could be a young player, but it has to be a proper striker. Nabb and Hoff are doing a great job, but they're out of position and it shows.

[Wilso8948]

Agree, we need a backup for Roy: it could be a young player, but it has to be a proper striker. Nabb and Hoff are doing a great job, but they're out of position and it shows.

Yeh you're right. Scoring in every game this season is not acceptable. Need our typical retards back.

[Hunter403]

The Member is right. Whilst we are still scoring and Nabbout and Hoff are doing a good job, we have failed to convert a significant number of chances that an out and out 9 like O'Donovn would have buried. Some of these wins could have been by far more and been far more comfortable. Seriously, if he were fit he would be leading the A League golden boot stats and no one woukd be prattling about McCormack

[belchardo]

Seriously, if he were fit he would be leading the A League golden boot stats and everybody would still be prattling about McCormack

just fixed up your slight error.

[MFKS]

The Member is right. Whilst we are still scoring and Nabbout and Hoff are doing a good job, we have failed to convert a significant number of chances that an out and out 9 like O'Donovn would have buried. Some of these wins could have been by far more and been far more comfortable. Seriously, if he were fit he would be leading the A League golden boot stats and no one woukd be prattling about McCormack

Let's call a spade a spade

Ronny don't get injured
Roy don't get injured

I severely doubt Sydney are 6 points ahead of us

Maybe 6 points behind us

[Mark325]

What is Kosta’s natural position? I was always of the belief he was a striker

[lil_masi]

What is Kosta’s natural position? I was always of the belief he was a striker

I believe it is as well

[plague]

What is Kosta’s natural position?

“Brother of good player in need of a contract”

[The Dunster]

Agree, we need a backup for Roy: it could be a young player, but it has to be a proper striker. Nabb and Hoff are doing a great job, but they're out of position and it shows.

Nabbout is the highest scoring non import striker in the league. The only blokes doing better are marquee / imports.

Club needs to bring in Virgili for a guest stint to remind you blokes of the difference between a-league and state league standard.

[lil_masi]

Nabbout is the highest scoring non import striker in the league. The only blokes doing better are marquee / imports.

Club needs to bring in Virgili for a guest stint to remind you blokes of the difference between a-league and state league standard.

He's also 2nd in the league with assists, 6. Dimi is 3rd with 5.

[Mark325]

“Brother of good player in need of a contract”

well people are talking about grabbing an npl player as roy's replacement but we haven't even played kosta in his natural position and for more then 10 minutes

i don't think he will be good, but before we sign a young striker as his back-up lets actually see if the back-up striker we have is any good

[Jeterpool]

Glen Moss has re-signed for another year

[Mark325]

Glen Moss has re-signed for another year

Definitely a good signing, Duncan is a really good keeper but Moss is playing the best I've seen him play in ages

[Mark325]

We've re-signed Kanta for 2 more seasons, doesn't say if he is under the cap or not

[Jeterpool]

We've re-signed Kanta for 2 more seasons, doesn't say if he is under the cap or not

The portion of salary we can pay him will be outside the cap will be utilised for sure.

he's the only one that fits the criteria.

[Wilso8948]

The portion of salary we can pay him will be outside the cap will be utilised for sure.

he's the only one that fits the criteria.

You'd think towards Pato.

[MFKS]

We've re-signed Kanta for 2 more seasons, doesn't say if he is under the cap or not

2 ****ing years??

We all know the bloke is retiring here

Might as well lock him in for 10 years and work around that

[Wilso8948]

Think Buijis being left out of Syd ACL squad and being off contract makes him even more of an attractive option. We should get at him especially if we take an ACL spot for next year.

[MFKS]

Think Buijis being left out of Syd ACL squad and being off contract makes him even more of an attractive option. We should get at him especially if we take an ACL spot for next year.

Think the Gypo ade the fight call

Got to go with
Bobo
Ninkovic
Polish Wanker

In the ACL

They the ones who going to make the diffdrence


Replacing the Dutch defender they should be able to do


It more a message that the FFA need to reign in the foreigners in the HAL to be same same as ACL anyway

HAL needs to go 3+ 1

[Wilso8948]

Think the Gypo ade the fight call

Got to go with
Bobo
Ninkovic
Polish Wanker

In the ACL

They the ones who going to make the diffdrence


Replacing the Dutch defender they should be able to do


It more a message that the FFA need to reign in the foreigners in the HAL to be same same as ACL anyway

HAL needs to go 3+ 1

I don't think leaving Buijis out can be underestated. He is quality at the back for them. It's putting a hell of a lot of trust in the new kid Worland. They were also mentioning Calver at CB when he's naturally a LB. If they wanted to win the thing I think they needed their championship winning CB combination on the park.

I was more mentioning that we should go after him. Depending what we do with Boogard but we are going to need some good depth come next year if we gain a spot in the ACL.
Your mentioning of the 3+1 rule is quite relevant though as you'd like to think Lee would seriously consider a high class Asian player if we make the champions league. Let's not forget that was always Lee's ambition. It will give him the biggest exposure in his target market. Still amazed how little emphasis we've made on coming 2nd.

[Jeterpool]

I don't think leaving Buijis out can be underestated. He is quality at the back for them. It's putting a hell of a lot of trust in the new kid Worland. They were also mentioning Calver at CB when he's naturally a LB. If they wanted to win the thing I think they needed their championship winning CB combination on the park.

I was more mentioning that we should go after him. Depending what we do with Boogard but we are going to need some good depth come next year if we gain a spot in the ACL.
Your mentioning of the 3+1 rule is quite relevant though as you'd like to think Lee would seriously consider a high class Asian player if we make the champions league. Let's not forget that was always Lee's ambition. It will give him the biggest exposure in his target market. Still amazed how little emphasis we've made on coming 2nd.

I think we aren't getting ahead of ourselves. The chase for 2nd is quite tight. Hold on against City a few weeks back and we'd be 7 points ahead, not 4, and the conversation could be different. We've been burned too often to know better.

As for the calls to have Buijs recruited - as it stands we will be making the same decision as Sydney. I expect we'd leave Brown out but if we also recruit Buijs who would we leave out? 2 of Pato, Vargas, Roy, Brown or Buijs?

[MFKS]

Doesnt 3rd get a plsy off spot to the ACL??

I dont think the club need to go making a song and dance about their dreams for the next 8 weeks

Bert has been pretty good using the media to keep the expectations low key as we have kept flyng under the radar and remained under dogs etc

I think the club will be desperate to cash in on the ACL this season as we probably wont get a better chance anytime soon

Gee luck wise you look at how we riding it this season at times


As for the Dutch wanker at Smurfs
Yeah he is a good player but the Gypo is going to have a harder time without Bobo Ninkovic and the Polish Wanker
Not like he can turn Matt Simon into an accomplished footballer is it??

As for The Dutch bloke coming here i all for Boogaard being shown the door

BUT

We aint wasting a foreigner spot on a defender

Arnold likes to play a Grubby defensive game so the Dutch bloke fits in there particularly with the extra cadh Blue Aids can spend on attacking Marquees

Bert on the other hand plays attacking

Go give him some more cash to spend on blokes like Pato and Vargas and KFC Hernzndez types etc

[pv4]

I don't think leaving Buijis out can be underestated. He is quality at the back for them. It's putting a hell of a lot of trust in the new kid Worland. They were also mentioning Calver at CB when he's naturally a LB. If they wanted to win the thing I think they needed their championship winning CB combination on the park.

I can't agree with this enough.

Buijs IMO was the first to be chosen for the ACL.

Seb Ryall leaving really hurt them at the back for backup etc.

Arnie builds his entire system around his back 6 of 4 defenders and 2 holding mids. Buijs & Wilkinson getting broken up is so confusing to me.

It would have been way easier to find an Asian attacker to replace one of Bobo, Nink or Adrian.

Relying on Warland and/or Calver and/or injured Grant just confuses me, and is the last thing I expected Arnie to do.

I think Buijs would be a terrific pickup for most other AL clubs, including us, but I think we'll find he's going to price himself out of the AL market pretty quickly.

[pv4]

Doesnt 3rd get a plsy off spot to the ACL??

The AL gets 2.5 spots.

Premiers get 1 spot.

Champions get 1 spot.

If the Champions are the Premiers, 2nd place gets the Champions spot.

If Champions are 2nd place, 3rd place gets the half spot.

If the Champions are 3rd place or lower (which I don't think has happened yet), 2nd place gets the half spot.

I'm fairly sure that's all correct.

[Jeterpool]

I can't agree with this enough.

Buijs IMO was the first to be chosen for the ACL.

Seb Ryall leaving really hurt them at the back for backup etc.

Arnie builds his entire system around his back 6 of 4 defenders and 2 holding mids. Buijs & Wilkinson getting broken up is so confusing to me.

It would have been way easier to find an Asian attacker to replace one of Bobo, Nink or Adrian.

Relying on Warland and/or Calver and/or injured Grant just confuses me, and is the last thing I expected Arnie to do.

I think Buijs would be a terrific pickup for most other AL clubs, including us, but I think we'll find he's going to price himself out of the AL market pretty quickly.

I agree too.

I'd have left Ninkovic out, myself.

[Wilso8948]

The AL gets 2.5 spots.

Premiers get 1 spot.

Champions get 1 spot.

If the Champions are the Premiers, 2nd place gets the Champions spot.

If Champions are 2nd place, 3rd place gets the half spot.

If the Champions are 3rd place or lower (which I don't think has happened yet), 2nd place gets the half spot.

I'm fairly sure that's all correct.

I was after clarification the other day about this. Cheers. So say we finish 2nd and Victory come from nowhere to win the GF then we go into a playoff.

I'm not really concerned about the club making a song and dance about it I was more directed at the media. I'm genuinely surprised they haven't taken that story and ran with it.. (Herald are you out there?).

In regards to Syd my opinion in Buijis should be picked. I understand keeping their front four together but they just do not have the luxury of an accomplished CB. Whereas if they left Ninko out then goals would still come from Brosque/Bobo/Polish hairless man.

If Buijis came here I agree he'd be in the same boat. But we'd have coverage in NTS and Boogs. And if the clincher was Buijis HAD to play ACL to get him there then I think we'd have adequate cover for Vargas, Pato, Roy.

Also why not push for a foreign CB? We waste it on a utility like Brown? We've got quality Aussie attackers to go with our foreign ones. Id be looking to relace Brown with a very accomplished CB or CDM.

[Jetmaster]

Fox rules...the love for the attacking three from the team far outweighs that if a mere defender.

[380]

If we were to make ACL i can see Mr LED Martin Lee stepping things up to another level altogether regarding funding for the club on and off the field. McKinna makes a lot about the pride factor for Mr Lee regarding inclusion in the competition within Asia.

Think Mr Lee should charter several of A330's for each and every away game should we qualify to allow us paupers with a passport to attend games.

[pv4]

If we were to make ACL i can see Mr LED Martin Lee stepping things up to another level altogether regarding funding for the club on and off the field. McKinna makes a lot about the pride factor for Mr Lee regarding inclusion in the competition within Asia.

Think Mr Lee should charter several of A330's for each and every away game should we qualify to allow us paupers with a passport to attend games.

I would be extremely surprised if Mr Lee had any form of care for Australian-based supporters if/when it comes to ACL. It'd be cheaper to get a rent-a-crowd made up of Chinese people when touring Asia, and I don't think it would bother him in any way to do that.

[The Dunster]

Think Mr Lee should charter several of A330's for each and every away game should we qualify to allow us paupers with a passport to attend games.

I think it would be a lot more cost effective if the supporters travelled on Hawk's private A380.

[380]

I think it would be a lot more cost effective if the supporters travelled on Hawk's private A380.

His newest one or last years model ?.

[plague]

That Sydney Dutch bloke is trash, but less trash than Bobo.

[MFKS]

That Sydney Dutch bloke is trash, but less trash than Bobo.

How trash is he compared to Leroy George??

That the ultimnate trash meter there

[plague]

How trash is he compared to Leroy George??

That the ultimnate trash meter there

Yeah at one end we have Leeroy and somewhere near there is that Dutch bloke and that Arzani kid from City.

Hes trash too.

[Wilso8948]

Yeah at one end we have Leeroy and somewhere near there is that Dutch bloke and that Arzani kid from City.

Hes trash too.

Buijis is good. Bart from City is the boss. He'd be a killa at Fannys of he came here.

I feel Arzani was that kid at school who was far and above the best player but always managed to tell everyone and wondered why he had no friends.

[plague]

The more commentators idolise trash like Arzani and Da Silva at the expense of much better players like Ugabooga and Brilliante the quicker death of Australian football will be upon us.

[StannyCFCJET]

James Gardiner on Twitter Clut released

[Jeterpool]

Interesting move that it happened now, more from the player's perspective, because he can't move to another A-League club. I'd expect he will pick up a gig next season.

For what it's worth:

Devante Clut:
- Made 24 appearances for the Jets. 23 in the A-League and 1 in FFA Cup (9 starts and 15 as a substitute)
- Scored 1 goal and provided 2 assists in A-League
- Was given his debut by Mark Jones, after signing for the club under Scott Miller.
- He's the 142nd player capped for the Jets in HAL and the 68th player to score for the club in the league.

[Macca]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/5219320/devante-clut-parts-ways-with-jets/

Joining NSWPL for now according to Herald

[380]

Not trying to sound like an ass here but really the bloke was only ever state league quality.

[StannyCFCJET]

Always got time for players who put in when on the pitch and who respect the fans and thank them when they leave. Hopefully Clut gets gametime at his next club

[MFKS]

Not trying to sound like an ass here but really the bloke was only ever state league quality.

Pretty much bang on that is

Bloke isn't good enough at this level

Won't be back

[The Dunster]

Good luck to Devante Clut in the future. We have a very strong group of players this season and he's not quite at their standard.

He will be a handfull at State league level though and should dominate.

He might be a chance in Thai leagues or similar as well.

[StannyCFCJET]

Good luck to Devante Clut in the future. We have a very strong group of players this season and he's not quite at their standard.

He will be a handfull at State league level though and should dominate.

He might be a chance in Thai leagues or similar as well.

Reckon hell be at mariners next season

[380]

Reckon hell be at mariners next season


All jokes aside i don't know if that says more about Clut or Mariners themselves. Go through there line up and it is player after player unwanted elsewhere for lets face it not being good enough. Reflects in there position on the table. The dumping ground of the unwanted. Criminal it is they are still around.

[Mark325]

All jokes aside i don't know if that says more about Clut or Mariners themselves. Go through there line up and it is player after player unwanted elsewhere for lets face it not being good enough. Reflects in there position on the table. The dumping ground of the unwanted. Criminal it is they are still around.

to be fair the Jets kind of had that feeling for the past couple of seasons too, never to the extent of the mariners now but it was definitely there

[The Dunster]

It can't be easy for any player not getting sufficient game time as we have seen with other players in the past. If Clut can get regular game time somewhere I think he will do well - because he's certainly got no major issues from a technical perspective. He'd probably offer the Mariners a lot more than Euro Hoole does.

[StannyCFCJET]

It can't be easy for any player not getting sufficient game time as we have seen with other players in the past. If Clut can get regular game time somewhere I think he will do well - because he's certainly got no major issues from a technical perspective. He'd probably offer the Mariners a lot more than Euro Hoole does.

He's lightyears ahead of Hoole. Humble as well

[Couscous]

I would like to discuss the next Jets' ACL squad.

[plague]

I would like to discuss the next Jets' ACL squad.

Come back in 2025 when it’s relevant then.

[PC14]

I would like to discuss the next Jets' ACL squad.

We need to qualify for one first. Until then, what is the point?

[turbojetfireV8]

re-signings underway
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/5220985/home-security-jets-shore-up-local-talent-with-new-deals/?cs=2439

there might still be hope for Membah that Wello will steal Boogs from us...

[turbojetfireV8]

did anyone go on Saturday to Tomaree Sports Centre training session BTW? anything of interest to note?

[StannyCFCJET]

re-signings underway
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/5220985/home-security-jets-shore-up-local-talent-with-new-deals/?cs=2439

there might still be hope for Membah that Wello will steal Boogs from us...

Wello want Hoff according to the article

[Jetmaster]

did anyone go on Saturday to Tomaree Sports Centre training session BTW? anything of interest to note?

Didn't see Topor, Boogs nailed some headers, Roy had some beautiful touches, Ronny did laps and made chicks swoon.

[Mark325]

happy if we kept cowbie, hoff, kosta, pato and vargas.

other ones can go, would also like to see brown and jackson moved on if possible but don't see it happening.

[StannyCFCJET]

happy if we kept cowbie, hoff, kosta, pato and vargas.

other ones can go, would also like to see brown and jackson moved on if possible but don't see it happening.

Kosta hasnt shown anything worth keeping aside from keep him to keep Dimi happy

[MFKS]

re-signings underway
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/5220985/home-security-jets-shore-up-local-talent-with-new-deals/?cs=2439

there might still be hope for Membah that Wello will steal Boogs from us...

We can only hope Boogaard gets the arse

Can tell the bloke is a Gypo as he should be kicking doors down to get a new deal but he seems to not give two ****s where he plays next year

The question though has to be asked how Cowburn is getting a new gig??
Can understand Hoff getting a new gig as he going well but Cowburn cant get in the team let alone the ****ing bench

So why the **** do we want to sign him for ??

[belchardo]

surely we're setting jackson up to be the replacement for topor or boogs, whichever one leaves first.

[380]

Perhaps Cowby is getting close to being in similar position to Kanta ie salary cap concession.

Just as a side note and a quick one.My young bloke said he read somewhere the Rolls might be listed in this Fridays squad ?. Is he taking the piss out of me or what ?

[turbojetfireV8]

Wello want Hoff according to the article

Wello can keep their grubby little kiwi fingers off the Hoff, he's ours... ;)

[turbojetfireV8]

I reckon Merrick sees Cowburn as an option within the next season or two otherwise he wouldn't have re-signed him. Not sure what he sees in Jackson though... :D

[WolfMan]

surely we're setting jackson up to be the replacement for topor or boogs, whichever one leaves first.

Yep. That would be my hope also

[Jeterpool]

Perhaps Cowby is getting close to being in similar position to Kanta ie salary cap concession.

Just as a side note and a quick one.My young bloke said he read somewhere the Rolls might be listed in this Fridays squad ?. Is he taking the piss out of me or what ?

There was a rumour on facebook about him being in this week's squad which I can't believe.

And next year will be the 5th season Nick has been in the A-League.

[MFKS]

Perhaps Cowby is getting close to being in similar position to Kanta ie salary cap concession.

Just as a side note and a quick one.My young bloke said he read somewhere the Rolls might be listed in this Fridays squad ?. Is he taking the piss out of me or what ?

Whether Cowburn is up for a cap concession is irrelevant

You set a standard and if he good enough he gets a new contract
If he not he doesn't

This isn't a ****ing charity

4 years and still has at no stage looked like being a starter
How long we giving him to make it ??

We been in an Abyss for years by making these type of short sighted decisions ie Resigning Kanta and BK whern they didn't deserve it and other assorted shit cunce for little valid reason

Let's not repeat past mistakes

[Jeterpool]

Cowburn was on the fringe of the team before he was taken out at training by Devante Clut. He'd have played at right back or CM during the peak of the injury crisis. We were crying out for a player like him. He recovered in time to go overseas with the U23s.

He's good for a 1 year contract and I reckon we will be having a similar conversation about him next season as we have Kanta this year. The club are clearly taking the same approach as they did with Kanta.

[Jeterpool]

surely we're setting jackson up to be the replacement for topor or boogs, whichever one leaves first.


Yep. That would be my hope also

Agree.

But if he wants to stick around he's got to see more game time next year.

[belchardo]

I've seen enough of jackson at CB to believe that he is good enough. i reckon pair him with (preferably) topor for the two or three years and then when topor moves on, we've got a ready made replacement who knows how we play.

[380]

I reckon there is a lot worse than Jackson at other clubs in regards to squad position at this point in time. IMO he is a good developer to have around and as seen against that overrated Barbarousis he has a bit of a mongrel take no shit attitude about him. Very rarely gets beat in the air.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Whether Cowburn is up for a cap concession is irrelevant

You set a standard and if he good enough he gets a new contract
If he not he doesn't

This isn't a ****ing charity

4 years and still has at no stage looked like being a starter
How long we giving him to make it ??

We been in an Abyss for years by making these type of short sighted decisions ie Resigning Kanta and BK whern they didn't deserve it and other assorted shit cunce for little valid reason

Let's not repeat past mistakes

To be fair resigning Kanta hasn't ended up being so bad.

[StannyCFCJET]

Who ever Merrick wants to keep im down with. If he keeps cowburn or boogs then ill trust Merrick 100% and the rest of us need to do the same

[plague]

If keeping Cowburn on food stamps means we fill a min squad requirement and it frees up salary cap space to cash up one of our stars then get at it Middleby.

If he wants any of Joeys or Ugabooga mans money then he can **** off to Europe.

[WolfMan]

Agree.

But if he wants to stick around he's got to see more game time next year.

I think he will take Boogaard’s spot from next season

[Jeterpool]

I think he will take Boogaard’s spot from next season

You expect Boogs will leave? Or he will take a step back in role?

[Mark325]

[QUOTE=Jeterpool;201361]You expect Boogs will leave? Or he will take a step back?

He won’t take a contract for much less then what we currently have him at, when the central coast and Wellington would probably happily have him and overpay for him.

I expect he’ll take off which is for the better, and we move Jackson to a permanent CB role or we get a more accomplished cb in as his replacement

[plague]

You expect Boogs will leave? Or he will take a step back in role?

Oh someone is paying Boogaard that starter money.

It’s just whether Middleby chooses to pay him, or one of the other players chasing an upgrade.

and if we happen to have a cut price replacement sitting there it may make the decision easier.

[plague]

By the way FFS where is Johnny K?

Middleby OUT.

[StannyCFCJET]

[QUOTE=Jeterpool;201361]You expect Boogs will leave? Or he will take a step back?

He won’t take a contract for much less then what we currently have him at, when the central coast and Wellington would probably happily have him and overpay for him.

I expect he’ll take off which is for the better, and we move Jackson to a permanent CB role or we get a more accomplished cb in as his replacement

Were understating his Partnership with Topor which is a big reason were second. I say keep him and if Jackson is good enough and works hard hell get a spot

[MFKS]

[QUOTE=Mark325;201364]

Were understating his Partnership with Topor which is a big reason were second. I say keep him and if Jackson is good enough and works hard hell get a spot
A big reason we are second is bedcause of Topor not Boogaard

Boogaard is a ****ing liability and Topor does a great job at covering his arse

[MFKS]

To be fair resigning Kanta hasn't ended up being so bad.

It's taken 10 years to get a half decent season out of him

Law of averages and all that

[StannyCFCJET]

[QUOTE=StannyCFCJET;201367]
A big reason we are second is bedcause of Topor not Boogaard

Boogaard is a ****ing liability and Topor does a great job at covering his arse

If that was the case we'd concede way more then we have because Topor doesnt have the pace to handle both sides of the defence. You hate and don't rate Boogs fine. Ill even admit he's ****ed up a few times this season marking and what not. But his postives far out way his negatives this season and its about time he got some praise for a good season. The bloke could have a goal line clearance in the last second of the GF and youd still slate him FFS

[WolfMan]

You expect Boogs will leave? Or he will take a step back in role?

I expect Boogaard will take a step back, at some other team. Isn’t worth the reported wage he is currently on, and as others have stated, can’t see him sticking around for much less.

The reported negotiations with Nigel are probably a token gesture so the club can say they discussed it.

Just my view. But Jackson needs to be playing regularly next season. I’m hopeful it’s for us rather than against us.

[Wilso8948]

I think you are all way off and Boogs will stay. Always discussed coming back to Newy with his family and finishing his career. I believe he cops enormous amounts of unwarranted criticism on here. I can see him signing at least a years extension.

[MFKS]

[QUOTE=MFKS;201371]

If that was the case we'd concede way more then we have because Topor doesnt have the pace to handle both sides of the defence. You hate and don't rate Boogs fine. Ill even admit he's ****ed up a few times this season marking and what not. But his postives far out way his negatives this season and its about time he got some praise for a good season. The bloke could have a goal line clearance in the last second of the GF and youd still slate him FFS

The bloke has cost us again and again in his time at the club

Even last gamr his piss poor attempt at marking nearly cost us a goal and it was through sheer luck we didnt conceed

Yeah blokes make mistakes but this bloke makes more than his fair share

Season 1 -2 of Boogaard here we conceeded shed loads

Topor here and it stops

When Topor was here before our defence was much better

When Topor went to WSW therir defence was good

Maybe the common denominator to a good defence is Topor ???

[Macca]

I think you are all way off and Boogs will stay. Always discussed coming back to Newy with his family and finishing his career. I believe he cops enormous amounts of unwarranted criticism on here. I can see him signing at least a years extension.

I wouldn't be against seeing him stay. But I would like to see him take a bit of a pay cut to do so - if he really does want to be back in Newy and part of a good team he should be willing to do so to allow the club to free up funds to pay blokes like Pato and Ronny.

When he came we were a shambles and had to pay massive overs to attract people to come here - now people have legitimate footballing reasons to want to be here, not just the bank balance.
If he's serious about wanting to be a part of his hometown club and make them be successful, he should be willing to lose some pay.

I'm sure I read that Brosque was willing to play for minimum wage for Sydney if it helped the club reach their goals.

[StannyCFCJET]

[QUOTE=StannyCFCJET;201376]

The bloke has cost us again and again in his time at the club

Even last gamr his piss poor attempt at marking nearly cost us a goal and it was through sheer luck we didnt conceed

Yeah blokes make mistakes but this bloke makes more than his fair share

Season 1 -2 of Boogaard here we conceeded shed loads

Topor here and it stops

When Topor was here before our defence was much better

When Topor went to WSW therir defence was good

Maybe the common denominator to a good defence is Topor ???

Topor is fantastic but Boogs is always playing well and you can't argue against that unless you rather say Ernie is getting it wrong every week?

[Tommyjet]

Personally I just can't fathom Jackson and topor playing together on a regular basis. Two left footers in central defense is very rare on a temporary basis let alone as regular partners. In my ideal team next season we either stick with boogs as topors partner or sign a quality right sided partner for topor and make Jackson put pressure on topor and koutroumbis on whoever the rightsided centre back is.

[StannyCFCJET]

Personally I just can't fathom Jackson and topor playing together on a regular basis. Two left footers in central defense is very rare on a temporary basis let alone as regular partners. In my ideal team next season we either stick with boogs as topors partner or sign a quality right sided partner for topor and make Jackson put pressure on topor and koutroumbis on whoever the rightsided centre back is.

Johnny K isnt seen as a CB under Merrick pretty sure

[plague]

Yeah but if you’re gonna resign Boogaard (and I can certainly see the case for it) then who do we let go?

Because he ain’t taking a pay cut (nor should he) and others gonna want that ‘success money’ so it’s gotta come from somewhere.

I’m only saying Boogaard because cutting him would be the easiest to replace and we can spend that money on keeping maybe ‘everyone’ else.

It seems like the smartest business decision.

[WolfMan]

Yeah but if you’re gonna resign Boogaard (and I can certainly see the case for it) then who do we let go?

Because he ain’t taking a pay cut (nor should he) and others gonna want that ‘success money’ so it’s gotta come from somewhere.

I’m only saying Boogaard because cutting him would be the easiest to replace and we can spend that money on keeping maybe ‘everyone’ else.

It seems like the smartest business decision.

Sums it up for me. Not saying Boogaard isn't useful, but he isn't $400k useful

[Mark325]

Yeah but if you’re gonna resign Boogaard (and I can certainly see the case for it) then who do we let go?

Because he ain’t taking a pay cut (nor should he) and others gonna want that ‘success money’ so it’s gotta come from somewhere.

I’m only saying Boogaard because cutting him would be the easiest to replace and we can spend that money on keeping maybe ‘everyone’ else.

It seems like the smartest business decision.

This is the same issue I see

Why take a pay cut here when mariners an hour down the road will overpay for him

[leftrightout]

Has it been confirmed yet that clut leaving means Pato staying when Ronny is back?

[Wilso8948]

Has it been confirmed yet that clut leaving means Pato staying when Ronny is back?

was when Necevski left I think

[Jeterpool]

was when Necevski left I think

This is correct

[Bon]

I know a lot of people were a bit perturbed when Hoff first came back and he copped a lot of flak, but credit where its due..
He's worked hard and been really good for us this season.. Pretty happy that he's staying..

[Jeterpool]

I know a lot of people were a bit perturbed when Hoff first came back and he copped a lot of flak, but credit where its due..
He's worked hard and been really good for us this season.. Pretty happy that he's staying..

Agreed. I actually think he's worthy of a 2 year deal.

[q-money]

i am officially a hoffmaniac

[Bon]

i am officially a hoffmaniac

GVE, Hoff... Has the world gone mad?!?! :gent:
Who is next q???

[plague]

Ive always loved The Hoff except all those times I didn’t.

[Jetmaster]

Only two players have led chants with the megaphone....Hoff is one.

[Jeterpool]

James Gardiner reporting on social media Alessi and the Jets have got mutual and he's been released to go to Manly United in NPL.

[Tommyjet]

Foxsports news reporting nabbout may be leaving us for the j-league after this weekend

[plague]

Foxsports news reporting nabbout may be leaving us for the j-league after this weekend

how does that work? do we have different transfer windows over in Asia or something or are you just allowed to bail whenevs?

[Wilso8948]

how does that work? do we have different transfer windows over in Asia or something or are you just allowed to bail whenevs?

Apparently J league window now open closes in April. They are looking to trigger his release cause of $500k. Sucks but this is basically the business plan of the club and why they had those release causes in place.

[Jetmaster]

Like many before though - doubt it would be the best career move tbh.

[Jeterpool]

What's the bet it's Ange's team.

I suppose if he left it would answer the question how we fit all the attacking options in once they're all fit.

I personally hope he stays

[lil_masi]

What's the bet it's Ange's team.

I suppose if he left it would answer the question how we fit all the attacking options in once they're all fit.

I personally hope he stays

Would be a massive loss for us. He was a great central striker backup as well. Disappointing after he recently signed a 2yr extension.

[Jeterpool]

Sucks but this is basically the business plan of the club and why they had those release causes in place.

This is it in a nutshell

[lil_masi]

Wonder if its possible for the club to make a deal where Nabbott joins them in their mid-season window. This opens 21st July. J1 is taking a break for the world cup from 20/5-18/7. So will miss the first 15 games.

[Jetmaster]

It could be he just goes over for medical and contract then comes back. We don't know yet.
Bet its Arnie telling his Japanese contacts to f$#@ us over.

[The Dunster]

There was a Fox Sports rumour last year Nabbout was leaving which turned out to be bullshit. How is this recent Fox rumour more legit ?

[lil_masi]

Jimmy interviewed Lawrie and hes said they've received no written offer so for now its all speculation.

[Mark325]

Jimmy interviewed Lawrie and hes said they've received no written offer so for now its all speculation.

So unless they’re just playing it off that way to the media I would doubt that that means he’ll be headin off at the conclusion of this week

[Jeterpool]

So unless they’re just playing it off that way to the media I would doubt that that means he’ll be headin off at the conclusion of this week

A week is a long time in football

[Wilso8948]

Jimmy interviewed Lawrie and hes said they've received no written offer so for now its all speculation.

No "written" offer. He could have came straight out and squashed it. Maybe I'm paranoid as ****.

[Bon]

Bet its Arnie telling his Japanese contacts to f$#@ us over.

The scary bit is, that I don't think Arnie even knows 9 other teams exist..
He's too busy getting greasy reach-arounds from Slater/Harps while bellowing about how fvcking amazing he is..

[Couscous]

No. What are the Jets without Nabbout?

[The Dunster]

No. What are the Jets without Nabbout?

Lawrie just made an announcement and said they have no formal offer for Nabbout. he also said that Nabbout's management has on four occasions said clubs were interested - but nothing formal materialised.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/969351002611597312

[lil_masi]

Lawrie just made an announcement and said they have no formal offer for Nabbout. he also said that Nabbout's management has on four occasions said clubs were interested - but nothing formal materialised.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/969351002611597312

His manager has come out saying Urawa made an enquiry a few weeks ago + a dutch club. Said if an offer from urawa came, wont be until close to window close 31/3.

[halo se7en]

If ever there's a chance for Nabbout to make a late dash at the Socceroos and a World Cup, now is it.

He's had a stellar season so far and his chance of making more $$ will still be on the table come the end of our season. He's said a lot in the past about how grateful he was for the Jets to give him another chance in the A-league, so I'd hope he's not going to bail on us right at the business end of the season.

[Jetmaster]

Have I said I hate agents....they are all self-centred pox.

[StannyCFCJET]

His manager has come out saying Urawa made an enquiry a few weeks ago + a dutch club. Said if an offer from urawa came, wont be until close to window close 31/3.

Club says nothing happened Agent says something else typical

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Club says nothing happened Agent says something else typical

Didn't they say 'no formal offer was made'? That's just semantics, conversations and agreements may have been made but the formal offer is just the term used for the end result of negotiations.

[plague]

Ray Gatt just tweeted that Nabbout is rumoured to be signing with the Newcastle Jets.

[plague]

Lot of people on here doing that thing again.

Don’t do it.

If I was him I’d be remembering minute by minute the day Victory cut him and no one else stepped in.

Go get yours Nabbout.

[Retro Jet]

It was the worst kept secret at the Mof 40 years KB luncheon today.
Can confirm I saw a text that indicates he's moving outta town...
And I got this info before Foti68 got in lol

[The Dunster]

Lot of people on here doing that thing again.

Don’t do it.

If I was him I’d be remembering minute by minute the day Victory cut him and no one else stepped in.

Go get yours Nabbout.

Check out Tony Rallis's abortion of a website - It hasn't been updated for over two years by the look of it.

http://www.footballhouseplus.com/

It will be a sad day though if Nabbout does leave the club. He's been brilliant for us and he's always been true to the fans as well.

[MFKS]

Jesus ****ing Christ

Calm the **** down people

Bloke isnt even in the starting side when we have our best side available

Dimi Vargas Pato and Roy are starting before him

He on the bench soon anyway

Sure it be great to have him here for the rest of the season but if a decent offer comes in chew their arm off for it

Bloke tries his guts out and has the right attitude etc
But we can find better players than him about

Bloke isnt indispensable

Far from it

[StannyCFCJET]

Jesus ****ing Christ

Calm the **** down people

Bloke isnt even in the starting side when we have our best side available

Dimi Vargas Pato and Roy are starting before him

He on the bench soon anyway

Sure it be great to have him here for the rest of the season but if a decent offer comes in chew their arm off for it

Bloke tries his guts out and has the right attitude etc
But we can find better players than him about

Bloke isnt indispensable

Far from it

What a Load of rubbish. Nabbout gets in the starting side on merit. If Vargas and Pato want to start they can get fit and ****ing earn it

[plague]

whether the Member is right or not aint the point.

its the fact that 'if' the club has better players, then the coach will have no prob sitting Nabbouts ass down.

So why should he give 2 shits if he's got the option of a better situation?

Players don't play or the fans. Never have, never will, nor should they ever.

[StannyCFCJET]

whether the Member is right or not aint the point.

its the fact that 'if' the club has better players, then the coach will have no prob sitting Nabbouts ass down.

So why should he give 2 shits if he's got the option of a better situation?

Players don't play or the fans. Never have, never will, nor should they ever.

Merrick plays people in form and who are working hard at training. Nabbout ticks both those boxes atm no chance he getting dropped

[plague]

Lawrie just made an announcement and said they have no formal offer for Nabbout. he also said that Nabbout's management has on four occasions said clubs were interested - but nothing formal materialised.


remember when that same bloke tried to tell you that the leaked photos wasnt our new kit?


you all can go ahead and believe him.

[MFKS]

Merrick plays people in form and who are working hard at training. Nabbout ticks both those boxes atm no chance he getting dropped

Bullshit

Bert picks his best team.

Case in point Moss

Was going well in Goals

Duncan comes back

Moss is riding the pine

Jack was shit for a week or two but Bert stayed strong to who he believed was his best option


Regardless of how well Nabbout has done this season there is no way in hell he playing ahead if Dimi Vargs Pato and Roy when those 4 are fit


Pigs will fly before that happens

[MFKS]

remember when that same bloke tried to tell you that the leaked photos wasnt our new kit?


you all can go ahead and believe him.

Bkokes a Gypo

Only a fool believes what he says

[The Dunster]

whether the Member is right or not aint the point.

its the fact that 'if' the club has better players, then the coach will have no prob sitting Nabbouts ass down.

So why should he give 2 shits if he's got the option of a better situation?

Players don't play or the fans. Never have, never will, nor should they ever.

They don't all play for the money either. Their managers on the other hand....

[plague]

Their managers on the other hand....

this is also something i dont get.
The manager is there to get the best deal for the client yeah?
The player hires the manager so he has a shield for which to hide behind as he looks for the best deal.
The manager charges a fee to be that shield.


not sure what you expect of them.


this is always on the player. blame them.

[MFKS]

this is also something i dont get.
The manager is there to get the best deal for the client yeah?
The player hires the manager so he has a shield for which to hide behind as he looks for the best deal.
The manager charges a fee to be that shield.


not sure what you expect of them.


this is always on the player. blame them.

Players can make nice earners just along the signing on kick backs they may get from clubs

Ie you stay at your club all your career like Kanta you get **** all

You change clubs 16 times in 12 years like some mercenaries do and you get plenty of pay outs to come payouts to **** off etc


Other thing to be said changing clubs allows the opportunities for networking

You may not get the pay off today out of it but goinbg to different club exposes players and agents to be viewed by more people etc

Which can lead to opportunities in the future


Take Nabbout.

****s off to Japan and straight away he is being viwed by everyone in the Jaspanese league set up
All these blokes might go in many different ways in the future but some bloke gets a gig coaching in say China and thinks wouldnt mind that Nabbout bloke and before too long Nabbout is in the Chinese League all because he moved in the first place

[Couscous]

Is it possible someone mistook Jason Geria for Nabbout?

[The Dunster]

this is also something i dont get.
The manager is there to get the best deal for the client yeah?
The player hires the manager so he has a shield for which to hide behind as he looks for the best deal.
The manager charges a fee to be that shield.


not sure what you expect of them.


this is always on the player. blame them.

No. The manager is there to get the best deal for himself. The same self interest you speak of for the player is also embodied in the actions of the manager. The countervailing power between them generally determines the outcome. There are exceptions of course but generally everyone is in it for their own benefit.
The Managers you would expect seek short term gain rather than long term - which is pretty much backed by so many Aussie players going overseas to essentially sit on the pine.
There are more players than managers and as such the managers know if a player is not profitable to them they can move on to the next one who is or at least shows more potential. Players on the other hand have a much more limited choice so finding a new manager is not as easy.

[StannyCFCJET]

No. The manager is there to get the best deal for himself. The same self interest you speak of for the player is also embodied in the actions of the manager. The countervailing power between them generally determines the outcome. There are exceptions of course but generally everyone is in it for their own benefit.
The Managers you would expect seek short term gain rather than long term - which is pretty much backed by so many Aussie players going overseas to essentially sit on the pine.
There are more players than managers and as such the managers know if a player is not profitable to them they can move on to the next one. Players on the other hand have a much more limited choice so finding a new manager is not as easy.

Case in point that prick Mino Raiola

[Jetmaster]

And then there was one....

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/ebfd41316205098384a21b55b83e4fd5?width=700

[mic22]

In a salary capped comp, how can a club use the transfer fees? I.e. can the jets use these 500k for salaries?

[380]

In a salary capped comp, how can a club use the transfer fees? I.e. can the jets use these 500k for salaries?

Prob just use those funds to sweeten any deal being negotiated to the two spots outside the cap i reckon.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

In a salary capped comp, how can a club use the transfer fees? I.e. can the jets use these 500k for salaries?

Use it to fund Jet Shaped Hats for the fans. Best way IMO.

[mic22]

Use it to fund Jet Shaped Hats for the fans. Best way IMO.
It would make a world of difference, indeed :D

Is it realistic to think Dimi as an Aussie marquee funded with the 500k? This could free up $$$ to retain Pato under the cap.
Still sad to see Nabbs go, though

[The Camel]

It would make a world of difference, indeed :D

Is it realistic to think Dimi as an Aussie marquee funded with the 500k? This could free up $$$ to retain Pato under the cap.
Still sad to see Nabbs go, though

No such thing as "Aussie" marquee anymore. Can be any 2 squad members, foreign or aussie doesnt matter

[sneaky]

Jesus ****ing Christ

Calm the **** down people

Bloke isnt even in the starting side when we have our best side available

Dimi Vargas Pato and Roy are starting before him

He on the bench soon anyway

Sure it be great to have him here for the rest of the season but if a decent offer comes in chew their arm off for it

Bloke tries his guts out and has the right attitude etc
But we can find better players than him about

Bloke isnt indispensable

Far from it

Hahaha
you can have your opinion.

Nabbout if he stays he plays in 1st XI.
Pato or Roy to go before him.

[plague]

Hahaha
you can have your opinion.


hashtagwellactually he cant for the next little bit.

[mic22]

No such thing as "Aussie" marquee anymore. Can be any 2 squad members, foreign or aussie doesnt matter

Thanks.
Anyway, if the transfer fees could be used this way it would be a massive boost... possibly retaining Pato and McGree.
Let's hope Dimi is not next...

[Couscous]

Was the member really banned?

[Bon]

Confirmed.. Nabbout's gone to Urawa..

[Jeterpool]

I'm surprised at the limited off-season movement announcements this season. Last year, we'd already signed and lost Dimi, were close to announcing Georgievski adn Shabow.

The club has done a great job getting contracts sorted for the bulk of the players, but with Nabbout now gone we need to look at recruitment next year.

Who is available that could do a job out wide? I don't know who is off-contract. A local player I'd throw out there is Nick Fitzgerald.

[Premy]

I'm surprised at the limited off-season movement announcements this season. Last year, we'd already signed and lost Dimi, were close to announcing Georgievski adn Shabow.

The club has done a great job getting contracts sorted for the bulk of the players, but with Nabbout now gone we need to look at recruitment next year.

Who is available that could do a job out wide? I don't know who is off-contract. A local player I'd throw out there is Nick Fitzgerald.

If we re-sign Pato, Mcgree and Ronnie I don't think we need to chase anyone else in the front 3rd. Those 3 with Roy, Dimi, Chapness, Thurgate and Hoffman if needed that is more then enough options.

[StannyCFCJET]

I'm surprised at the limited off-season movement announcements this season. Last year, we'd already signed and lost Dimi, were close to announcing Georgievski adn Shabow.

The club has done a great job getting contracts sorted for the bulk of the players, but with Nabbout now gone we need to look at recruitment next year.

Who is available that could do a job out wide? I don't know who is off-contract. A local player I'd throw out there is Nick Fitzgerald.

Ex gypo??

[Jeterpool]

Ex gypo??

Hopefully return there and score a hatty on debut for us.

[Jeterpool]

If we re-sign Pato, Mcgree and Ronnie I don't think we need to chase anyone else in the front 3rd. Those 3 with Roy, Dimi, Chapness, Thurgate and Hoffman if needed that is more then enough options.

Kosta Petratos too.

Maybe - I still think we're a striker optoin light. Fitzgerald won't solve that either.

[plague]

I’d be shocked if Petratos lasts another 12 months with us.

McGree is a priority, but he should be aiming higher than us.

Maybe luck out on another loan.

Then a Nabbout type player and see what they wanna do with Boogaard.

[plague]

What’s the most we’ve ever sold a player for?

Or is this the first time we’ve ever gotten straight cash for someone?

‘sup Middleby?

[marconi]

I'm surprised at the limited off-season movement announcements this season. Last year, we'd already signed and lost Dimi, were close to announcing Georgievski adn Shabow.

The club has done a great job getting contracts sorted for the bulk of the players, but with Nabbout now gone we need to look at recruitment next year.

Who is available that could do a job out wide? I don't know who is off-contract. A local player I'd throw out there is Nick Fitzgerald.

Arzani

[Mark325]

if we re-sign Pato & Vargas, our whole starting XI is pretty well done. Use the extra spots left by guys like Clut & Alessi to try and sign some other good youth players like champness.
Boogs is the interesting one, I can see a case for getting him back but for less money but would rather let him go and either replace him with someone around his price or allow Jackson to have his chance and use that extra cap space to keep someone like dimi around.

[StannyCFCJET]

if we re-sign Pato & Vargas, our whole starting XI is pretty well done. Use the extra spots left by guys like Clut & Alessi to try and sign some other good youth players like champness.
Boogs is the interesting one, I can see a case for getting him back but for less money but would rather let him go and either replace him with someone around his price or allow Jackson to have his chance and use that extra cap space to keep someone like dimi around.

Boogs has earnt a new contract IMO

[redwah]

Boogs has earnt a new contract IMO
Agree

[Mark325]

according to gatty roy handed a 2 week suspension

[Jetmaster]

according to gatty roy handed a 2 week suspension

So what did the squealing pig get?

[halo se7en]

So what did the squealing pig get?

A pat on the back.

[mic22]

A pat on the back.
And a mud pool to practice...

[380]

I'm surprised at the limited off-season movement announcements this season. Last year, we'd already signed and lost Dimi, were close to announcing Georgievski adn Shabow.

The club has done a great job getting contracts sorted for the bulk of the players, but with Nabbout now gone we need to look at recruitment next year.

Who is available that could do a job out wide? I don't know who is off-contract. A local player I'd throw out there is Nick Fitzgerald.

Fitzgerald eh ?. Is he an enigma or what ?. Some days you watch him and you think yep he has finally turned the corner and going to be be the consistent player he should be and other days it is like dude why didn't you just stay at home game day he can be so bad ?.

[StannyCFCJET]

Fitzgerald eh ?. Is he an enigma or what ?. Some days you watch him and you think yep he has finally turned the corner and going to be be the consistent player he should be and other days it is like dude why didn't you just stay at home game day he can be so bad ?.

Sounds like Hoole we dont need another play like that

[The Dunster]

The club needs to appeal Roys suspension. Ninka evading a red and the squealing pigs efforts avoiding further investigation is no surprise.

[foti68]

I’d be shocked if Petratos lasts another 12 months with us.

McGree is a priority, but he should be aiming higher than us.

Maybe luck out on another loan.

Then a Nabbout type player and see what they wanna do with Boogaard.

McGree is on loan an has 3 years to run on his contract y would he sign with us, I would chase Ikonomidis he is off contract with Lazio

[plague]

McGree is on loan an has 3 years to run on his contract y would he sign with us, I would chase Ikonomidis he is off contract with Lazio

yeah i was referring to 'keeping' McGree (extending the loan), theres no way he 'signs' for us.

Ikonomidis is def something we should be in the market for.



just on that as much as it must pain them to lose a player, from a recruiting point of view, Merrick and the Gypo handled the Nabbout thing with class. Hopefully that type of thing goes over well with future signings (esp young peeps) that if a better deal comes around, and the club is fairly compensated, then the player will have the opportunity to go.

it aint gonna be perfect like that every time, but for now, it made the front office look good.

[Jetmaster]

One A.Hoole and agent refused to put a release clause in his contract because it would minimise offers.

Jets told him to find a Euro deal if you can.

[The Camel]

What’s the most we’ve ever sold a player for?

Or is this the first time we’ve ever gotten straight cash for someone?

‘sup Middleby?

Someone on another site posted Transfermarkt's list the other day of the highest transfers from the A League and allegedly we got 1 million for Brilliante to Fioretina

[Macca]

One A.Hoole and agent refused to put a release clause in his contract because it would minimise offers.

Jets told him to find a Euro deal if you can.

I thought they were complaining because the release clause we were gonna put in was too high and they thought it may be prohibitive to potential buyers.

[The Camel]

I thought they were complaining because the release clause we were gonna put in was too high and they thought it may be prohibitive to potential buyers.

Exactly, who on earth would pay $500k for that piece of shit

[halo se7en]

Boogaard gone for the season. Regardless of what you think of his ability, can't help but feel for the bloke. Newy boy, captain, and with a great chance of leading the club to some rare glory and it's taken away by nothing but an awkward landing after contesting a header.

If there was any sense of karma, that would have happened to Buijs at the other end.

[Macca]

The release clause doesn't stop clubs offering less for the player or stop the club accepting lesser offers. Just means if it is matched, then the club cannot refuse the offer and it comes down to an agreement between the buying club and the player/agent. I believe having clauses around the 500k mark for these "rough diamond" players we pick up is smart business for both parties. If the player doesn't eventuate then nothing lost, but it does show the player that we won't stand in their way of progression if they play well enough to attract such offers making us an attractive destination for players who rate themselves and feel they may have copped a raw deal in the past.

By Hoole wanting it lower, he essentially felt he would not be playing well enough to attract such an offer, but still wanted to go without the clubs consent if was able to attract pretty much any reasonable offer.

On Hoole. I personally think if he was still with us this season he could be having a similar season to Nabbout - I think Merrick would have been exactly the type of coach he needs. Maybe not though, and I'm not fussed. He made his choice and things have worked out pretty well for us since. :gent:

[Macca]

Time for Jackson to show whether he can be the future or not.

[Jetmaster]

I think the clause for Hoole was 200-300k?

[plague]

Stinks for Boogaard.
Hoff to CB, and striker.

The one true Libero.

[Macca]

I think the clause for Hoole was 200-300k?

According to Herald, jets wanted 350-450k. Not sure what Hoole wanted.

[Jardelsimage]

According to Herald, jets wanted 350-450k. Not sure what Hoole wanted.

who cares about the toole

[Alton]

Time for Jackson to show whether he can be the future or not.
For balance, Kanta needs to be right centre back

[leftrightout]

For balance, Kanta needs to be right centre back

Yeah Brown was good last weekend, i would put Kanta at CB and leave Brown and Ugar in.

[380]

Plenty of options without Brown playing a part. McGree , Moving Hoff further forward once again allowing Vujica to return. Ugar plays much better football when not having Brown on the park. Pato back next game gives us plenty of options.

[Alton]

Injury waiver for Boogs?

[rhysd]

Plenty of options without Brown playing a part. McGree , Moving Hoff further forward once again allowing Vujica to return. Ugar plays much better football when not having Brown on the park. Pato back next game gives us plenty of options.

McGree looks better in an attacking position

Looks like we may see brown even further up the park with Dimi going away for NT duty??

[Wilso8948]

McGree looks better in an attacking position

Looks like we may see brown even further up the park with Dimi going away for NT duty??

Never again. Pato, Roy, Ron, Champs, Hoff, Mcgree. Even that Angus dude.


Ps Boogs is a massive massive ****in loss. Jackson IMO is a very good player but nowhere near Boogs quality and will be difficult having two lefties as CB.

[Macca]

McGree looks better in an attacking position

Looks like we may see brown even further up the park with Dimi going away for NT duty??

Does the full squad go? I thought it would be whittled down to 23 or so.

Personally I don't think Dimi is gonna get much or any game time, so it would be disappointing if he had to miss a couple games to watch from the stands.

With Nabbout gone and if Dimi were to leave too, Roy suspended for the next couple games - could leave our attack quite thin.

Assuming Vargas is not fit to start next game and Pato is - we have a combination of McGree, Pato, Hoffman, Champness? As the front four. Possibly Thurgate or Shabow (what happened to this bloke? unsighted in months)

[Hutcho]

Boogaard gone for the season. Regardless of what you think of his ability, can't help but feel for the bloke. Newy boy, captain, and with a great chance of leading the club to some rare glory and it's taken away by nothing but an awkward landing after contesting a header.

If there was any sense of karma, that would have happened to Buijs at the other end.

Matt Spiranovic is a free agent, $500k extra in the kitty, reunite the ACL winning pairing.

[The Hacker]

Matt Spiranovic is a free agent, $500k extra in the kitty, reunite the ACL winning pairing.

That would be a handy replacement

[q-money]

Matt Spiranovic is a free agent, $500k extra in the kitty, reunite the ACL winning pairing.

you'll have to run that one by sydney FC and see if they're OK with it

[leftrightout]

Matt Spiranovic is a free agent, $500k extra in the kitty, reunite the ACL winning pairing.

Surely this will be looked into by the club... would be a really great signing for us right now!
I think we need someone else. I think we have enough depth to cover injuries and suspensions at CB week to week. I don’t think we have the quality to win semi-finals and grand finals.
Spira would be exactly that. Would really quite suit our style too with his quality of football from the back.
Oh yeah plus I just love the guy!

[Mark325]

Spira would be ideal, Jackson is a decent player but right now not someone I would be confident with going into the finals.

Even without nabbs I’m still feeling confident, Vargas and Pato on the park together should produce some crazy shit

[Macca]

Spira would be ideal, Jackson is a decent player but right now not someone I would be confident with going into the finals.

Even without nabbs I’m still feeling confident, Vargas and Pato on the park together should produce some crazy shit

Vargas, Pato + Dimi, the bloke who's been shredding all season.

[StannyCFCJET]

Spira would be ideal, Jackson is a decent player but right now not someone I would be confident with going into the finals.

Even without nabbs I’m still feeling confident, Vargas and Pato on the park together should produce some crazy shit

Gotta give Jackson a chance to claim a spot

[leftrightout]

Gotta give Jackson a chance to claim a spot

Earlier in the season I would, coming into finals we need an instant solution. Spiranovic should be said solution.

[Mark325]

Earlier in the season I would, coming into finals we need an instant solution. Spiranovic should be said solution.

Very much this, and if boogs isn’t keen on rejoining the club beyond this season we may be able to lock spira in with this little guest stint

[Grimario]

One A.Hoole and agent refused to put a release clause in his contract because it would minimise offers.

Jets told him to find a Euro deal if you can.

I think you've got an extra O in his name

[Jetmaster]

I think you've got an extra O in his name

That did cross my mind...

[Grimario]

Couldn't have been Hoole then, couldn't cross anything.

[Hutcho]

Couldn't have been Hoole then, couldn't cross anything.
Lol

[belchardo]

Couldn't have been Hoole then, couldn't cross anything.

look, i know we don't like hoole, but these kind of comments are ridiculous. he clearly has some ability to cross, how else did he get across the swansea channel?

[baldrick]

look, i know we don't like hoole, but these kind of comments are ridiculous. he clearly has some ability to cross, how else did he get across the swansea channel?


He goes round past Tronno to get to Gosford so he doesn't have to cross anything

[hawk]

So Dimi might be going.....

What is the point trying to get a decent squad together. They get poached as soon as we get near top. after 10 years of diarrhea we let decent cunce go and will not have time to replace them.

We are one of the weakest sloppy assed clubs when it comes to retaining a player. fkn hopeless.

In a year where silverware is a possibility they can put their pretentious cheap ass Asian careers on hold for a few months.

Then theres the mofos who for some strange reason like have a cry over caring about the career of players that you hardly know. Theres the bag start eating.

Not worth the time effort dollars. Hope we go out in straight sets now

[StannyCFCJET]

So Dimi might be going.....

What is the point trying to get a decent squad together. They get poached as soon as we get near top. after 10 years of diarrhea we let decent cunce go and will not have time to replace them.

We are one of the weakest sloppy assed clubs when it comes to retaining a player. fkn hopeless.

In a year where silverware is a possibility they can put their pretentious cheap ass Asian careers on hold for a few months.

Then theres the mofos who for some strange reason like have a cry over caring about the career of players that you hardly know. Theres the bag start eating.

Not worth the time effort dollars. Hope we go out in straight sets now

So do we keep a player who wants to go?

[rhysd]

$500k for a player who was no where near socceroos contention, in fact, was a discard of the a-league.. good bit of business. Clubs all over the world have to come endure the same thing.

He fought like a lion when he played for us.

We will find other nabbouts.

The only thing the club will do different now is put larger release clauses in their contracts.

[Bremsstrahlung]

So do we keep a player who wants to go?

Thats it really. We are a very small fish.
Unfortunately it doesn’t make sense for us to make life difficult.
What do we do? Play hard ball and say you are staying, he says he wants to go, we say we aren’t selling him, he becomes disgruntled and doesn’t perform or gets frozen out for wanting to leave. Do you sell him on and make a profit or keep him and make him see out his contract and contribute nothing and we pay his wage and get nothing for him.

Unfortunately the players hold all the cards.

[Jetmaster]

No problem with guys having a crack. I only dislike the mid season departure.

This off season should be good for us as we are an attractive option.

[Jeterpool]

No problem with guys having a crack. I only dislike the mid season departure.

This off season should be good for us as we are an attractive option.

But who is available?

I see, for example, Craig Goodwin's team are bottom at the moment. He won't be coming back though.

[Jeterpool]

So Dimi might be going.....

What is the point trying to get a decent squad together. They get poached as soon as we get near top. after 10 years of diarrhea we let decent cunce go and will not have time to replace them.

In a year where silverware is a possibility they can put their pretentious cheap ass Asian careers on hold for a few months.


I'm waiting to see if that happens before I go along a similar line.

I reckon the media could be trying ot destabilise us - the threat to the big city clubs

[MonkeyKplunk]

Lawrie came out the same day and said that Dimi won't be going anywhere, and there's no provision for release clause in his contract.
I'm assuming that means they learnt a lesson last time around.

Also, the "rumour" came out in the same article about Sydney FC resigning players, so I'll take that nonsense with a grain of salt.

[Jetmaster]

But who is available?

I see, for example, Craig Goodwin's team are bottom at the moment. He won't be coming back though.

We're talking July here, plus we will be in a better position to poach from other A-League clubs for once.

We signed George, Roy, Dimi and Ronny as spoon winners!

[Grimario]

http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/the-covert-agent-newcastle-jets-dimitri-petratos-j-league/10bgtcznsm8n1gppucohwryoy

[Jeterpool]

We're talking July here, plus we will be in a better position to poach from other A-League clubs for once.

We signed George, Roy, Dimi and Ronny as spoon winners!

True.

I meant, which was absolutely clear from my post (ha ha :gent:), is who is coming off contract in the A-League. That's a standard article that Fox produce every year but I've still not seen any! I know it was already out becuse I used it for a podcast in December last year.

[Macca]

http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/the-covert-agent-newcastle-jets-dimitri-petratos-j-league/10bgtcznsm8n1gppucohwryoy

We better hope Ronny and Pato get up to speed quickly if its the case.
Not having a release clause puts us in a strong position, and I hope that (if Dimi is indeed looking at moving) the club makes sure it is well worth our while - and also has an eye on next season recruits.

[380]

We better hope Ronny and Pato get up to speed quickly if its the case.
Not having a release clause puts us in a strong position, and I hope that (if Dimi is indeed looking at moving) the club makes sure it is well worth our while - and also has an eye on next season recruits.

Not sure how many times they were on the park together at AEK ( get to it Jeterpool , as if you don't have enough to do LOL ) but that experience should prove very fortuitous for us.

[Jeterpool]

Not sure how many times they were on the park together at AEK ( get to it Jeterpool , as if you don't have enough to do LOL ) but that experience should prove very fortuitous for us.

They played together 24 times*





*made up number like all the other "stats" I put up

[Tommyjet]

We better hope Ronny and Pato get up to speed quickly if its the case.
Not having a release clause puts us in a strong position, and I hope that (if Dimi is indeed looking at moving) the club makes sure it is well worth our while - and also has an eye on next season recruits.

It's the covert agent. No one takes notice of goal.com

[380]

They played together 24 times*





*made up number like all the other "stats" I put up


Just like my Mrs when i ask her about the family budget eh.

[Jeterpool]

Just like my Mrs when i ask her about the family budget eh.

:rof:

[Mark325]

what would be enough money to make losing Dimi worth it?

Also this seems to be a good list for off-contract a-league players

http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/a-league/studs-up-david-davutovic-ranks-his-top-30-offcontract-stars-with-135-up-for-grabs-in-the-aleague/news-story/8fd3b898036e9622655c75e376b1e085

[plague]

Look, I’m not trafficking in hope like some, but he made the Aussie squad by playing well for the Jets. I think it’s a massive risk to move out of that environment and risk being rendered invisible through lack of spotlight.

Now, that’s if the WC is his ultimate dream. If he’s just keen on getting ‘paid’ then by all means take that opportunity.

[plague]

Also, I’ve read a bit on here about ‘disgruntled player’ not getting the option to leave.

In all honesty apart from “that dude that shares a last name with but is unrelated to Griff” have we ever as a club had that sort of standoff?

Cause fans very rarely side with players in these disputes so they better be in all on being dicks about it to secure their move.

[StannyCFCJET]

Also, I’ve read a bit on here about ‘disgruntled player’ not getting the option to leave.

In all honesty apart from “that dude that shares a last name with but is unrelated to Griff” have we ever as a club had that sort of standoff?

Cause fans very rarely side with players in these disputes so they better be in all on being dicks about it to secure their move.

Pretty sure Ryan Griffths if thats who you mean was kicked out of the club?

[Poshpom]

So do we keep a player who wants to go?

Just curious, has it been reported anywhere that Dimi wants to go?

I would imagine that he'd be fairly settled here, he'd be on good money, in a winning team, a coach who allows him to play, a fan base that adores him, he's just made the national squad for the first time and that's just his professional life. On the home front, he and his wife appear happy, settled and have just become parents plus he couldn't settle in his previous stint in Asia, what incentive is there for him to move at this point in time. He's only young, his chance will come, hopefully in Europe at a later date

[pv4]

I'm fairly confident this list is correct or thereabouts for uncontracted AL players at the end of this season:


Adelaide
Johan Absalonsen (V)
George Blackwood
Lachlan Brook
Dzengis Cavusevic
Tarek Elrich
Jordan Elsey
Ben Garuccio
Ersan Gulum (on loan from Hebei China Fortune)
Vince Lia
Mark Ochieng
Jordan O'Doherty
Isaac Richards

Roar
Bryce Bafford (S)
Jay Barnett (S)
Daniel Bowles
Corey Brown
Joe Caletti
Nicholas D’Agostino
Ivan Franjic
Corey Gameiro
Jack Hingert
Brett Holman (M)
Dane Ingham (S)
Fahid Ben Khalfallah (V)
Massimo Maccarone (V) (M)
Emilio Martinez (S)
Matt McKay
Jade North
Mitchell Oxborrow
Connor O’Toole
Avraam Papadopoulos
Jacob Pepper
Michael Theo
Brendan White

CCM
Josh Bingham
Tom Glover (on loan from Tottenham Hotsp*rs)
Antony Golec
Ben Kennedy
Jacob Melling
Connor Pain
Adam Pearce
Jacob Poscoliero
Blake Powell
Josh Rose
Liam Rose
Kye Rowles
Petros Skapetis

Melbourne
Daniel Arzani
Oliver Bozanic
Luke Brattan (on loan from Manchester City)
Christian Cavallo
Nick Fitzgerald
Michael Jacobson (V)
Bruce Kamau
Neil Kilkenny
Osama Malik
Stefan Mauk (on loan from NEC Nijmegen)
Connor Metcalfe (S)
Manny Muscat
Ruon Tongyik

Victory
Mitch Austin
Leigh Broxham
Thomas Deng
James Donachie
Leroy George (V)
Josh Hope
Cameron McGilp
Stefan Nigro
Matias Sanchez (V)
Lawrence Thomas
Carl Valeri
Pierce Waring

Jerks
Nigel Boogaard
Riley McGree (injury replacement for Jake Adelson)
Kosta Petratos
Patricio Rodriguez (V) (injury replacement for Ronald Vargas)
Ronald Vargas (V) (M)

Perth
Andreu (V)
Jake Brimmer
Diego Castro (V) (M)
Joel Chianese
Alex Grant
Nick Feely
Chris Harold
Joe Knowles
Shane Lowry
Mitch Mallia (injury replacement for Joal Chianese)
Joseph Mills (V)
Scott Neville
Liam Reddy
Jamal Reiners
Daniel Stynes
Adam Taggart
Jeremy Walker (injury replacement for Marc Warren)
Xavi Torres (V)
Brandon Wilson

SFC
Deyvison Rogerio da Silva Bobo (V) (M)
Alex Brosque
Jordy Buijs (V)
David Carney
Fabio Ferreira (V)
Anthony Kalik (on loan from Hajduk Split)
Charles Lokolingoy
Milos Ninkovic (V) (M)
Matt Simon
Alex Wilkinson
Luke Wilkshire

Wellington
Thomas Doyle
Andrew Durante
Louis Fenton
Dylan Fox
Scott Galloway
Lewis Italiano
Andrija Kaludjerovic (V)
Roy Krishna (V)
Matija Ljujic (V)
James McGarry
Michael McGlinchey
Daniel Mullen
Goran Paracki (V)
Monty Patterson (on loan from Ipswich Town)
Matthew Ridenton
Logan Rogerson
Marco Rossi (V)
Alex Rufer
Tando Velahpi

WSW
Jonathan Aspropotamitis
Marcelo Carrusca
Alvaro Cejudo (V) (M)
Jack Clisby
John Hall (injury replacement for Jerrad Tyson)
Vedran Janjetovic
Raul Llorente (V)
Steven Lustica
Chris Oikonomidis (on loan from S.S Lazio)
Brendon Stantalab
Michael Thwaite
Jerrad Tyson

[The Camel]

I'm fairly confident this list is correct or thereabouts for uncontracted AL players at the end of this season:

From that list. I'd be chasind Arzani or 2nd option Kamau as Nabbouts replacement and Tongyik or 2nd options Deng or Donachie as Boogaard replacement