2025 Zone League 1

[Jardelsimage]

Something like that, might be ok for a one off but definitely not sustainable if that?s the only way you can play. LMRFF must be licking their lips.

$600 plus i believe.

[Zone Insider]

$600 plus i believe.

A huge rip off either way.

Thought it was around $350 per game ?

[Buddha]

$340 per game.

[MCG_1997]

Surely with today's rain, all the grounds will be closed. I heard Smith Park has adequate drainage and might be open. Is this true?

[Zone Insider]

Surely with today's rain, all the grounds will be closed. I heard Smith Park has adequate drainage and might be open. Is this true?

Will council allow the pitch to be ruined after the money spent on it ?

Heard they issued warnings to clubs who got on last week about damage to fields.

[Alton]

Surely with today's rain, all the grounds will be closed. I heard Smith Park has adequate drainage and might be open. Is this true?

No games this weekend

[Zone Insider]

No games this weekend

Will they allow common sense and let clubs make the call today or make them wait until morning of like there?s going to be some miracle

[Nou Camp]

Surely with today's rain, all the grounds will be closed. I heard Smith Park has adequate drainage and might be open. Is this true?

they played on it last 2 weekends and chopped it up good

[MCG_1997]

they played on it last 2 weekends and chopped it up good
Has any ZL1 team booked Speers Point for this round?

[Swanky]

Has any ZL1 team booked Speers Point for this round?

Better ways to spend money

[Buddha]

Has any ZL1 team booked Speers Point for this round?

Not ZL1 but Crabs v Minmi on Sunday evening. Apparently the only available spots when they called on Tuesday. So I doubt anybody else was able to get on

[2ndclasscitizen]

Northern are cancelling Speers Point training bookings starting week after next so it can be used for catch up matches

[MCG_1997]

Northern are cancelling Speers Point training bookings starting week after next so it can be used for catch up matches
Good to see some common sense.

[YerMate]

Northern are cancelling Speers Point training bookings starting week after next so it can be used for catch up matches

About F en time.

[Trigger]

Northern are cancelling Speers Point training bookings starting week after next so it can be used for catch up matches

Ckheads took their time. Inept twats at NNSW Shouldve collapsed that over a week ago.

[MCG_1997]

It was such a beautiful day, it was a shame all today's games called off. Most of our grounds are terrible and something must be done about them. There are too many catch up games to be played. Suns and Westlakes have 3 games in hand while Swansea and a few other have 2.

[Zone Insider]

It was such a beautiful day, it was a shame all today's games called off. Most of our grounds are terrible and something must be done about them. There are too many catch up games to be played. Suns and Westlakes have 3 games in hand while Swansea and a few other have 2.

Council happy to take clubs money each year without putting back in.
Then want to threaten clubs with damages costs.
NNSW and Zones also have a lot to answer for.

[Jardelsimage]

Council happy to take clubs money each year without putting back in.
Then want to threaten clubs with damages costs.
NNSW and Zones also have a lot to answer for.

Lake Mac council do not take $$ from clubs, the money goes into a ground account to only be used on grounds, power bills etc.
The onus to do something with this is totally with the clubs.

Newy Council, not sure what happens there.

The amount of user's football has in the Newcastle area, does not match the money spent by councils, compared to the money they spend on league and cricket and Croquet(lake mac council, FMD).
NNSW wasting their(our) money on Speers Point (a better design incorporating Lakes ground) would have made more sense doing what they are doing now, back then.

Main issue is all clubs fighting for the same dollar, from the same pond.

You could go on forever about this subject(maybe needs its own thread)

[ForeverRed]

Clubs need to get together and get a synthetic ground or two built around newcastle/lake Mac, the benefits financially once built will be well worth it, has anyone done costings to have their grounds transformed, I?d be interested to know.

[Builtwithlove18]

Has any ZL1 team booked Speers Point for this round?

Croatia vs Warnesbay next Friday night

[Jardelsimage]

Clubs need to get together and get a synthetic ground or two built around newcastle/lake Mac, the benefits financially once built will be well worth it, has anyone done costings to have their grounds transformed, I?d be interested to know.

1.5mil plus i was told, not sure if the fella from Northern was trying to steer me away as it would impact speers point.

[ForeverRed]

1.5mil plus i was told, not sure if the fella from Northern was trying to steer me away as it would impact speers point.
I?ve done some checking, for an established ground anywhere between $300.000 & $600.000

[NewHere]

I?ve done some checking, for an established ground anywhere between $300.000 & $600.000

Football NSW synthetic field guideline says $1.7m. You can probably take $300k off that for the fencing, lighting and equipment costs they have included, if you think you can use what you?ve already got. Oh yeah, and that guideline was published 2017, so you can add to that the sh!# ton of increase in construction costs since then. You wouldn?t get change from $1.5-2.0m. I haven?t look at the report in detail, but ForeverRed maybe you could have a look and add it to the things that you have checked. https://footballfacilities.com.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/10/SyntheticFields-v2-2017.pdf

[Alton]

I?ve done some checking, for an established ground anywhere between $300.000 & $600.000

You are a mill out Red

[ForeverRed]

You are a mill out Red
I can only go off what I read, it states an established ground, lighting, drainage etc can be done for $600 g

[Thomas477]

Clubs need to get together and get a synthetic ground or two built around newcastle/lake Mac, the benefits financially once built will be well worth it, has anyone done costings to have their grounds transformed, I?d be interested to know.

One or two grounds won?t do much more good, better off spending the money on drainage, cheaper and more likely to have benefit to the whole community then a white elephant fenced off to a select few. Harry Edwards used to be one of the worst pitches for wet weather, but played games all yesterday as far as I know. The other problem is that a lot of our grounds are built on floodplains, look at Federal Park, Walker Field, Cardiff etc. so it?s very common for them to flood.

[Zonal Marking]

1.5mil plus i was told, not sure if the fella from Northern was trying to steer me away as it would impact speers point.

So all Cardiff would have to do is cut back the funding on a few of those mercenary signings, find a few blokes happy just to play for the badge and you could potentially have your very own all weather playing surface. Performances might improve on the pitch as well :grin:

[Jardelsimage]

So all Cardiff would have to do is cut back the funding on a few of those mercenary signings, find a few blokes happy just to play for the badge and you could potentially have your very own all weather playing surface. Performances might improve on the pitch as well :grin:

great idea, so if i halve the mega dollars being paid, in 600 years we will have the cash to do a synthetic pitch.:deadhorse:

[Bremsstrahlung]

Just doing some quick calculations.

Based on LMRFF advertised costings for Fast5s comp - I assume this is the best money maker.

To play $90 per team ($180), for 20 minute halves (45minutes) means it makes $240 an hour for a pitch. LMRFF have 12 pitches (no idea on their usage) but let’s say 8 of them get used to be generous. That’s roughly $2000 an hour. For say let’s start at 5pm until 10pm (5 hours). Making $10,000 a night.

Would be nice to have 5 nights a week covered - 50K a week. Let’s say we operate it 40 weeks of the year - that will bring in $2 million dollars.


As for the full size pitches - let’s just assume there’s maybe 2 matches able to be played each night on each of the 2 fields.
$340 for one field x 2 =$680.00 x 2 games = $3360 a night. Again let’s assume we do this Monday -Friday - $17000 a week. We assume this is only during season of say 20 weeks to account for all levels. Is $340,000 a season for weekday evenings.

Let’s say we can play 5 games per pitch, per day over the weekend. $3,340 a weekend. For 20 weeks - 68,000.

All up to about $400,000 if you’re getting games on all the time.



Anyway. How does one invest in Fast5s?

[The new_kid]

Also take into account all the jets youth and development teams that use the big pitches from 7am each day.

I am amazed they haven?t put another lot of synthetic pitches in the Maitland area. I would think the Tarro fields would be a good venue. Only needs to be 5 training fields and 2 full size pitches.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Also take into account all the jets youth and development teams that use the big pitches from 7am each day.

I am amazed they haven?t put another lot of synthetic pitches in the Maitland area. I would think the Tarro fields would be a good venue. Only needs to be 5 training fields and 2 full size pitches.


Yehp, I think I confused myself with trying to figure out how much LMRFF make and how it could be viable for clubs/associations to invest in their own.

I think the ability to play the fast 5s would be the biggest contributing factor to the viability of such a project.
Or the operation of a ‘summer comp’ can help cover the costs of community clubs using the facilities during the winter.

We already have a facility for the “elite”. If clubs do go ahead with artificial, I think it needs to have community clubs/teams in mind.

I’m not sure there’s a model that satisfies everyone.

Whoever funds it will want to recover their outlay and that will lead to funded clubs/teams utilising it more than community teams. But it’s a step in the right direction.

[sapdad]

Yehp, I think I confused myself with trying to figure out how much LMRFF make and how it could be viable for clubs/associations to invest in their own.

I think the ability to play the fast 5s would be the biggest contributing factor to the viability of such a project.
Or the operation of a ?summer comp? can help cover the costs of community clubs using the facilities during the winter.

We already have a facility for the ?elite?. If clubs do go ahead with artificial, I think it needs to have community clubs/teams in mind.

I?m not sure there?s a model that satisfies everyone.

Whoever funds it will want to recover their outlay and that will lead to funded clubs/teams utilising it more than community teams. But it?s a step in the right direction.

2023 total revenue for the Speers Pt facility was approx $1.9m that included all pitch use and cafe.

[MCG_1997]

2023 total revenue for the Speers Pt facility was approx $1.9m that included all pitch use and cafe.
Great investment. You can get your money back in 1 year. Profit from there onwards

[sapdad]

Great investment. You can get your money back in 1 year. Profit from there onwards

There are many many many more things you can do with a parcel of land that size that generate more that $2m revenue thats for sure.I would be shocked if its making much profit at all.The financials are out there somewhere I cant remember if the insurance cost for the venue was separate from the rest of the organisation but if it hasnt increased at least 25% since then I would be shocked.They do re-lay the pitches more often than I thought as well.The on cost of needing to do that would probably deter local clubs from going to synthetic.

[Jardelsimage]

There are many many many more things you can do with a parcel of land that size that generate more that $2m revenue thats for sure.I would be shocked if its making much profit at all.The financials are out there somewhere I cant remember if the insurance cost for the venue was separate from the rest of the organisation but if it hasnt increased at least 25% since then I would be shocked.They do re-lay the pitches more often than I thought as well.The on cost of needing to do that would probably deter local clubs from going to synthetic.

As said before after speaking with Northern and Lake Mac they both pushed us away from even contemplating it.

Northern maybe because it would/could be in opposition.
Lake Mac don't want the cost of maintenance as it's their land.

[Bremsstrahlung]

As said before after speaking with Northern and Lake Mac they both pushed us away from even contemplating it.

Northern maybe because it would/could be in opposition.
Lake Mac don't want the cost of maintenance as it's their land.

Interesting.

I think for it to be in all stakeholders interest it would need to be association and Local council.

Eg. If say Edgeworth NPL decided to put in an artificial pitch - it ain’t benefiting anybody but them. They would utilise it 75% of the time. And leasing it out occasionally would give them very little revenue - making it solely an investment for their club.

It would need to be say a joint initiative. Eg. Lambton Jaffas could liaise with council to develop wallarah and blackley oval to have up to 3 pitches (rough size based on nearby Arthur Edden pitch size). Then up to Northern or Newcastle football to chip in. Eg if Northern chip in, it could benefit northern operated teams/competitions and wet weather postponements. Or Newcastle football - who could use it to benefit community football/zone league

For viability and revenue purposes I think it needs to have fast5 capability or similar non trademarked equivalent. One field is equivalent to 10 - fast 5 size pitches - so you could have a very similar set up to LMRFF. 2 pitches and 10 Fast 5s. Over winter - utilise the fast 5 pitches for grassroots/junior washouts. And over summer - run 2 x 12-15 week competitions.

1890

[Taffy]

I?ve done some checking, for an established ground anywhere between $300.000 & $600.000

Would need to be private land Newcastle and Lac Mac Councils are against putting in synthetic on their fields.

[2ndclasscitizen]

Just for reference costwise: the redevelopment of Harold Knight at Gateshead (pitch, sheds, supporting infrastructure, the lot) is $4.5m.


Would need to be private land Newcastle and Lac Mac Councils are against putting in synthetic on their fields.

Newcastle council isn't. They are looking at converting one as a test to see how it goes, how to manage the condition and access etc

[sapdad]

Just for reference costwise: the redevelopment of Harold Knight at Gateshead (pitch, sheds, supporting infrastructure, the lot) is $4.5m.

Do you know which club will be playing out of that new facility?It looks great so far.

[sapdad]

Interesting.

I think for it to be in all stakeholders interest it would need to be association and Local council.

Eg. If say Edgeworth NPL decided to put in an artificial pitch - it ain’t benefiting anybody but them. They would utilise it 75% of the time. And leasing it out occasionally would give them very little revenue - making it solely an investment for their club.

It would need to be say a joint initiative. Eg. Lambton Jaffas could liaise with council to develop wallarah and blackley oval to have up to 3 pitches (rough size based on nearby Arthur Edden pitch size). Then up to Northern or Newcastle football to chip in. Eg if Northern chip in, it could benefit northern operated teams/competitions and wet weather postponements. Or Newcastle football - who could use it to benefit community football/zone league

I know you are using Wallarah as an example but I think council have made it clear they wont be taking community fields and cutting off access to them.Wallarah/Blackley service cricket as well as the high school.Id say synthetic would only be an option at a club that is fenced off so it was used just for football (like Edden or Magic park). this would then limit alternative uses for it and take away any potential revenue.The only realistic option of Newcastle ever having a Speers Point type facility would be in the redevelopment of the trotting track/showground/council depot areas.And even then football is going to have to have its shit together to have any chance of getting a spot.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Do you know which club will be playing out of that new facility?It looks great so far.

Google tells me Kahibah will be utilising it. Not sure if joint shared with somebody else or not. (As per Kahibah fc website)

Charlestown have used it on occassion before their upgrade. And Highfields Charlestown azzurri City Blues Wolves FC used it over the years too as a base.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I know you are using Wallarah as an example but I think council have made it clear they wont be taking community fields and cutting off access to them.Wallarah/Blackley service cricket as well as the high school.Id say synthetic would only be an option at a club that is fenced off so it was used just for football (like Edden or Magic park). this would then limit alternative uses for it and take away any potential revenue.The only realistic option of Newcastle ever having a Speers Point type facility would be in the redevelopment of the trotting track/showground/council depot areas.And even then football is going to have to have its shit together to have any chance of getting a spot.

Yehh, just as an example, but I also feel like it is probably one of the prime locations for such a thing in Newcastle council area.
For me, it ticks a lot of boxes in that it can serve the community (if the right stakeholders are involved), local schools, the football community and other sports. The hockey centre sits dormant for a few months every year with no other available uses.

Nothing to say they can’t have cricket pitches in between the 3 fields and make it 2 x cricket ovals.

https://www.penrithcity.nsw.gov.au/facilities-recreation/sports/jamison-park-synthetic-facility#:~:text=The%20new%20multi%2Duse%20synthet ic,association%20with%20Penrith%20City%20Council.

This example is a community minded model - that Nepean Football association tipped in for and have primary use of.
Area is free to anybody to use. It is fenced to ensure cars and other vehicles cannot access. Priority goes to those with bookings which if outside of Nepean association, are paid.

In my opinion they would be better off developing the showground, PCYC or existing basketball stadium into the proposed basketball precinct they want at Wallarah. They have already come out and said the area is prone to waterlogging. Think it could benefit everyone.

[ForeverRed]

Why do Sydney clubs have so many synthetic grounds, we seemed to have missed out somewhere

[Undertaker]

Why do Sydney clubs have so many synthetic grounds, we seemed to have missed out somewhere

Doesn?t help that JDL take up games on the big fields either? No JDL should be played there unless it?s in the small fields until washouts are caught up

[Bremsstrahlung]

Doesn?t help that JDL take up games on the big fields either? No JDL should be played there unless it?s in the small fields until washouts are caught up

I think this is the biggest issue, regardless of another artificial pitch is who should play there? Who should get to play their games?
Is it the grassroots kids? The JDL kids? The community kids? All age teams? Zone league teams? NPL teams? Teams who have the most washouts?

Depending upon who you are involved in, your opinion will change. That will be the tricky part. LMRFF seemingly operating on a “first in best dressed, we will take your money no matter who you are”.

[Taffy]

Great investment. You can get your money back in 1 year. Profit from there onwards

$1.9M revenue not profit.

[Taffy]

Newcastle council isn't. They are looking at converting one as a test to see how it goes, how to manage the condition and access etc

Good to see they have changed their mind. Hopefully goes well and means conversion of more pitches, and Lake Mac see it is worthwhile

[Taffy]

Do you know which club will be playing out of that new facility?It looks great so far.

Kahibah will be using it for their NL1 and PYL teams, with Kahibah Oval and Andy Bird to still be used by their community and zone teams.

[Taffy]

I know you are using Wallarah as an example but I think council have made it clear they wont be taking community fields and cutting off access to them.

Except Wallarah is going to be converted into a basketball stadium, so the soccer, cricket, and the school are all losing access.

[sapdad]

Kahibah will be using it for their NL1 and PYL teams, with Kahibah Oval and Andy Bird to still be used by their community and zone teams.

Thanks.

[sapdad]

Except Wallarah is going to be converted into a basketball stadium, so the soccer, cricket, and the school are all losing access.

Its a big IF but yes that is the downside to the new stadium.No one seemed to plan for the backlash from the people that were already using the facility.In basketballs defence it does seem to benefit council/state govt to move them.Its the problem soccer has always had.Theres not often anything in it ($$$$$) for the government to help our sport out.

[sapdad]

LMRFF seemingly operating on a “first in best dressed, we will take your money no matter who you are”.

As it should be.Plus moving JDL to the rage cages may be tolerable for 9s and 10s with some modifications but 11s and 12s?Forget it.And parents paying those sort of regos will certainly never listen to anyone tell them their program is any less important than ZPL or NPL youth.

[ForeverRed]

Kahibah will be using it for their NL1 and PYL teams, with Kahibah Oval and Andy Bird to still be used by their community and zone teams.

Kahibah will be sharing it, council aren?t spending that money on one club

[Tommy]

Why do Sydney clubs have so many synthetic grounds, we seemed to have missed out somewhere

Councils support clubs to get them installed. Talking with a Sydney club they bring in $700K revenue per year on hire.

Any new facility should be synthetic.

[Jardelsimage]

Councils support clubs to get them installed. Talking with a Sydney club they bring in $700K revenue per year on hire.

Any new facility should be synthetic.

That sort of income would put the non for-profit local clubs into another atmosphere.
I think anything over 130K of income is where the gst starts to hit clubs, you would basically have to operate as a business, not a local football team.

[ForeverRed]

This is great conversation everyone, who knows where it could lead to, we desperately need another synthetic football facility in our town

[The Hacker]

This is great conversation everyone, who knows where it could lead to, we desperately need another synthetic football facility in our town

A few weeks of washouts and everyone has mellowed there is a logical and interesting debate with actually facts what?s happened to the forum. I do like this version

[Box2Box]

Link to the progress of a conversion of a grass field to Synthetic plus new lighting and scoreboard in West Pymble (Northern Suburbs Football Association). Looks like they have encountered several issues along the way which has resulted in costing blowouts.
https://www.krg.nsw.gov.au/Planning-and-development/Projects-and-current-works/Pymble/Norman-Griffiths-Oval-upgrade

[Thomas477]

Councils support clubs to get them installed. Talking with a Sydney club they bring in $700K revenue per year on hire.

Any new facility should be synthetic.

They?re also not shared grounds from what I can see, they?re all dedicated football grounds.

Pretty much all of our grounds in Newcastle are shared with cricket, and that?s a lot more synthetic turf to lay and maintain than a regular pitch. Plus, with that outlay, you?d want to fence grounds off to protect them from the general public, and council is against that.

No one has mentioned either the flood management aspect that these grounds provide that would be removed by the construction of artificial pitches.

[ZoningIn!]

apparently newcastle football are in advanced planning of around 2 sites for a facility with artificial surfaces. plans for a 'new home of football for all clubs' in the biggest zone. apparently started in august.

surprised they haven't mentioned it on their podcast

[anfield]

So many suggestions, questions and answers about the wet weather.

Synthetic pitches are great, but that isn't going to help right now. But the post before about Newcastle football looking a options is great, need to be proactive.

As for now, when does the point come where games are moved in advance to neutral venues? If so how far away is reasonable? If a ground or 2 is available, surely it's an option.

[Bremsstrahlung]

They?re also not shared grounds from what I can see, they?re all dedicated football grounds.

Pretty much all of our grounds in Newcastle are shared with cricket, and that?s a lot more synthetic turf to lay and maintain than a regular pitch. Plus, with that outlay, you?d want to fence grounds off to protect them from the general public, and council is against that.

No one has mentioned either the flood management aspect that these grounds provide that would be removed by the construction of artificial pitches.

Good point, flood management is something I can?t speak to. The water has to go somewhere I guess.
Just using Wallarah as an example, there?s a giant creek adjacent that could be used/modified to cater for the extra rainfall. Again, no expert, the area at Wallarah is low risk for flooding - according to council data, 1% risk of flooding each year. Maybe introducing 3 x fields worth of extra rainfall into the creek would have an impact, maybe not. Though, I?m assuming the proposed concrete building and Hockey fields across the road would also have the same effect.

As for shared usage, Penrith council model is a shared ground. Football, AFL, Cricket and community use. Nepean Football chipped in and as a result are I guess the primary users of the space- I think costs associated with hiring go back to council and Nepean Football Clubs have subsidised fees for use. (I think their Nepean Association representative teams use the facility for games/training but is also open to others). They also run summer football on the fields with portable goals - no fast5 style set up here.

As I mentioned earlier, I don?t think there?s any impact if say an NPL club converts its main pitch to synthetic. It benefits them, they require it for say 30 weeks of the year on variable nights for training. There?s limited ability to claim revenue unless you run summer comps. Most of these ground have pretty adequate drainage. I dont think there?s much benefit to ONLY upgrading an NPL pitch - unless they are adding in an avenue to make money.

I think Wallarah could be a perfect little experiment with Jaffas/ New Lambton FC if they want to swoop, Newcastle Football, I guess Cricket could also chip in if they want some benefits and Newcastle Council. Jaffas/NL get priority access to a field, Newcastle
Football and/or Council manage access to a field or 2. And the option to convert 1 of the 3 into Fast5. This can be used for competitions similar to Speers point on evenings and utilised as an option for school sports during the day time. Lambton High and even HSPA and primary schools can utilise the space.

[Taffy]

Kahibah will be sharing it, council aren?t spending that money on one club

Oh you sweet summer child.


Council didn't mind spending all that money in Croudace Bay for one soccer club, and they love spending all that money on Macquarie Field for one club.

[Zone Insider]

Hearing some clubs have been issued $1100 fines by Newcastle Council for allowing games to go ahead for ?damages?

Meanwhile Northern and Newcastle Football remain silent

[ZLWB]

A few weeks of washouts and everyone has mellowed there is a logical and interesting debate with actually facts what?s happened to the forum. I do like this version

Hear hear

[2ndclasscitizen]

Hearing some clubs have been issued $1100 fines by Newcastle Council for allowing games to go ahead for ?damages?

Meanwhile Northern and Newcastle Football remain silent

What are Northern and Newcastle Football supposed to say? "Why have you levied the fines that are explicit in ground licence agreements and that you have specifically reminded clubs of multiple times over the last few weeks?"

[Kicktheball]

Are they kicking off NPL training and games being transferred to Speers point? Is this still happening does anyone know?

[slipperyfish]

Are they kicking off NPL training and games being transferred to Speers point? Is this still happening does anyone know?

I enquired about field hire for games and was told there?s no availability due to NPL training. Hopefully changes soon

[Taffy]

Are they kicking off NPL training and games being transferred to Speers point? Is this still happening does anyone know?

I have been told it has with priority to be given to games run by Northern.

[ExWhistleMan]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/council-fires-contractor-in-synthetic-turf-saga-as-costs-more-than-double-20250520-p5m0pz.html?utm_content=in_other_news&list_name=E2446F7A-1897-44FC-8EB8-B365900170E3&promote_channel=edmail&utm_campaign=am-smh&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=2025-05-21&mbnr=MzA1NjY2MjY&instance=2025-05-21-07-15-AEST&jobid=31485263

Topical.
Copy into 12ft.io to get through the firewall

[straightred88]

Synthetic field by Newcastle Council is a pipe dream.

Only have to look at Azzurris post on Facebook to see how dumb council are.

[Fergus82]

Are they kicking off NPL training and games being transferred to Speers point? Is this still happening does anyone know?

I?m at LMRFF right now, Field 2 is not in use at all, field 1 had Buds junior girls training,

[Builtwithlove18]

Only game that will get on this week will be Friday night

Croatia 4 - Warnesbay 1

[Taffy]

I?m at LMRFF right now, Field 2 is not in use at all, field 1 had Buds junior girls training,

Not sure if you're expecting people to play games at 5pm. Half of us are still trying to get home from work at that time.

[Richardarlison]

Be interesting to see how Cardiff get on this week

[slipperyfish]

Be interesting to see how Cardiff get on this week
I?m hearing Evan?s park is the only ground that will be open this weekend

[Addios]

Synthetic field by Newcastle Council is a pipe dream.

Only have to look at Azzurris post on Facebook to see how dumb council are.

Inept corrupt council could do it. Its just that they are knuckle dragging League bogns.

[Buddha]

If you're looking to book at LMRFF over the next two weeks, don't bother as they're already full booked

[Jardelsimage]

I?m hearing Evan?s park is the only ground that will be open this weekend

and why is that?

[MCG_1997]

Is there any game today? In whatever league (NPL to ZL). I need to get out of the house and watch football.

[slipperyfish]

Is there any game today? In whatever league (NPL to ZL). I need to get out of the house and watch football.

Mayf jnrs vs norths at Stevenson is on

[straightred88]

If you're looking to book at LMRFF over the next two weeks, don't bother as they're already full booked

Yeh booked for training like Kahibah last night and Magic Thursday night.

Northern a complete joke.

[northern_swan]

Yeh booked for training like Kahibah last night and Magic Thursday night.

Northern a complete joke.

There’s youth catch up games at Speers Point Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday for the next two weeks. Should have commenced weeks ago, but baby steps nonetheless.

[Zonal Marking]

Only game that will get on this week will be Friday night

Croatia 4 - Warnesbay 1

Croatia won 5-0 according to their socials

[Yesk21]

Is there any game today? In whatever league (NPL to ZL). I need to get out of the house and watch football.

Dudley v Toronto today

[Zone Insider]

Mid week

Azzurri 2-2 Stockton
Kotara 2-3 Suns

[Zone Insider]

Round 10

Mayfield 1-4 Kotara
Swansea 3-1 Stockton
Uni 3-2 Suns
Westlakes 1-7 Croatia
Azzurri 1-3 Olympic
Warners Bay 1-4 Cardiff

[MCG_1997]

Round 10 Prediction:

Mayfield 2-5 Kotara
Swansea 3-3 Stockton
Uni 4-2 Suns
Westlakes 1-9 Croatia
Azzurri 1-7 Olympic
Warners Bay 2-3 Cardiff

[Zonal Marking]

Round 10 Prediction:

Mayfield 2-5 Kotara
Swansea 3-3 Stockton
Uni 4-2 Suns
Westlakes 1-9 Croatia
Azzurri 1-7 Olympic
Warners Bay 2-3 Cardiff

Interesting prediction for the Cardiff game

[MoSalahh]

Round 10 Prediction:

Mayfield 1-7 Kotara
Swansea 3-2 Stockton
Uni 5-4 Suns
Westlakes 1-11 Croatia
Azzurri 1-2 Olympic
Warners Bay 0-4 Cardiff

[Source]

Mayfield 3 - Kotara 2
Reggie?s Mayfield 1 - Kotara 0
Thirds Mayfield 0- Kotara

[Source]

Mayfield 3 - Kotara 2
Reggie?s Mayfield 1 - Kotara 0
Thirds Mayfield 0- Kotara 5

[Incognito mosquito]

Just wanted to share something positive on here. Was at the Westlakes v Croatia game and witnessed a bit of off field class from the Striker from Croatia who came off the bench. Fella came over at half time to have a chat with our young striker who is still finding his feet and was giving him some great insight to develop his game. Thought it was a class act from the guy from Croatia and worth a shout out.

[Zone Insider]

Just wanted to share something positive on here. Was at the Westlakes v Croatia game and witnessed a bit of off field class from the Striker from Croatia who came off the bench. Fella came over at half time to have a chat with our young striker who is still finding his feet and was giving him some great insight to develop his game. Thought it was a class act from the guy from Croatia and worth a shout out.

Good stuff that.

[MCG_1997]

Just wanted to share something positive on here. Was at the Westlakes v Croatia game and witnessed a bit of off field class from the Striker from Croatia who came off the bench. Fella came over at half time to have a chat with our young striker who is still finding his feet and was giving him some great insight to develop his game. Thought it was a class act from the guy from Croatia and worth a shout out.
Was it their number 7?

[MCG_1997]

Any catch up games around the town.
Azzurri is playing Stockton at Heaton Park.
Azzurri 2-3 Stockton

[Nou Camp]

Any catch up games around the town.
Azzurri is playing Stockton at Heaton Park.
Azzurri 2-3 Stockton

Suns vs Warners Bay tonight
3rds 6:15
Res 8:00
1sts Wednesday night
7:00

[Incognito mosquito]

Was it their number 7?

Sorry no idea what number he was

[Zone Insider]

Any catch up games around the town.
Azzurri is playing Stockton at Heaton Park.
Azzurri 2-3 Stockton

Azzurri 3-2

[Zone Insider]

Suns vs Warners Bay tonight
3rds 6:15
Res 8:00
1sts Wednesday night
7:00

Suns 5-1

[MCG_1997]

Azzurri is playing Stockton at Heaton Park.
Azzurri 2-3 Stockton

I wish I could pick lotto ticket this good.
Stockton was up 3-0 at half time. Azzurri put 2 back with 5 minutes into the second half.
Final score 3-2 to Stockton

[Zone Insider]

Was it their number 7?

No 11

[WeekendWarrior]

No 11
Ill eat my hat before hearing Jamie Byrnes wasnt coaching the kid how to be constantly whiny through a game

[Zone Insider]

Ill eat my hat before hearing Jamie Byrnes wasnt coaching the kid how to be constantly whiny through a game

Hope you are hungry then

[MCG_1997]

[QUOTE=Nou Camp;281259]
Suns vs Warners Bay
1sts Wednesday night 7:00
Is this game going ahead or washed out again?

[Zone Insider]

[QUOTE=Nou Camp;281259]
Suns vs Warners Bay
1sts Wednesday night 7:00
Is this game going ahead or washed out again?

Washed out

[Zone Insider]

Round 11

Cardiff 6-2 Westlakes
Olympic 2-3 Mayfield
Croatia 4-2 Uni
Stockton 1-3 Warners Bay
Kotara 4-1 Swansea
Suns 10-1 Azzurri

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Round 11

Cardiff 6-1 Westlakes
Olympic 2-2 Mayfield
Croatia 4-1 Uni
Stockton 2-4 Warners Bay
Kotara 3-1 Swansea
Suns 15-0 Azzurri

[MCG_1997]

Round 11 Prediction

Cardiff 4-2 Westlakes
Olympic 3-5 Mayfield
Croatia 4-3 Uni
Stockton 2-1 Warners Bay
Kotara 5-0 Swansea
Suns 10-0 Azzurri

[the-deviant]

any truth behind, Hamilton Azzurri forfeiting their games tomorrow against the Newcastle Suns is this, true.

Surely not

[Nou Camp]

They have both ressies and firsts

[ZLWB]

any truth behind, Hamilton Azzurri forfeiting their games tomorrow against the Newcastle Suns is this, true.

True - it?s in Squadi now

Suns will see it as missed opportunity to bolster goal difference. Others have put 10+ on the Azzurri, and Suns get a 3-0 score applied.

[Lofty]

Not having 11 players willing to throw boots on is wild. Something about people’s club?

[Zone Insider]

True - it?s in Squadi now

Suns will see it as missed opportunity to bolster goal difference. Others have put 10+ on the Azzurri, and Suns get a 3-0 score applied.

Yep that?s unlucky.

Very embarrassing from Azzurri

[Gelato]

It's beyond embarrassing. How they can't get at least one team to play is a joke

[the-deviant]

I?ve certainly heard of forfeiting Thirds. Maybe some times Ressies but I can?t say I?ve heard of a First Grade forfeit in this competition

[MCG_1997]

They should withdraw from the competition. League continues with 9 teams, and there will be a Bye each weekend. At the end of season no one gets relegated. Thoughts?

[Builtwithlove18]

They should withdraw from the competition. League continues with 9 teams, and there will be a Bye each weekend. At the end of season no one gets relegated. Thoughts?

That?s a terrible idea?

[Zone Insider]

They should withdraw from the competition. League continues with 9 teams, and there will be a Bye each weekend. At the end of season no one gets relegated. Thoughts?

They will be relegated at seasons end anyway. No one likes a bye

[ranger]

They shouldn't be relegated. They should be disbanded and made to start in the conference league if they want to play anything other than all age.

[Toaf]

With only 2 teams in The club maybe there was a wedding or event being a long weekend availbilty maybe down give the benefit of doubt ??
Were the suns lucky azzurri could've pulled off another big result like the draw against cardiff

[Nou Camp]

With only 2 teams in The club maybe there was a wedding or event being a long weekend availbilty maybe down give the benefit of doubt ??
Were the suns lucky azzurri could've pulled off another big result like the draw against cardiff

They have 4 over 35s teams and about 5 all age teams who all the had the long weekend off due to no games in those comps
They could?ve rounded up a few extras

[Gelato]

I've never heard or seen a team that's forfeited a first grade game.
It's not like it was a catch up game, it was scheduled at the start of the season and with their entire zone league squad, plus all there other teams they could potentially call up players from, I find it impossible to believe they couldn't have at least one team to play first grade.
Again, it's beyond embarrassing

[Incognito mosquito]

The amount of players you can call up from AA or 35s is pretty restrictive from what I?ve come to understand. 3 dual players and 4 borrowed players only that?s for ressies/3rds. I don?t even know if you can have a borrowed player in 1sts. I?m only learning the nuances with borrowed players so I could be off the mark. That being said not great for Azzurri to be in that position and I?m sure they would have exhausted all options to get on the pitch. Hopefully this is a one off for them and they can get back to playing football.

[the-deviant]

I would say as a club they have decided that a 3-0 forfeit is better for their goal difference (which may be a factor at the end of the season) than dishing up 11 players to the Suns who would have had a field day.

[Jardelsimage]

The amount of players you can call up from AA or 35s is pretty restrictive from what I?ve come to understand. 3 dual players and 4 borrowed players only that?s for ressies/3rds. I don?t even know if you can have a borrowed player in 1sts. I?m only learning the nuances with borrowed players so I could be off the mark. That being said not great for Azzurri to be in that position and I?m sure they would have exhausted all options to get on the pitch. Hopefully this is a one off for them and they can get back to playing football.

You are correct, you can only borrow x 4 players for 3rds or CL, unless they have changed the rules with the clubs that don't have a 3rd grade?
Multi rego is 3 any grade.

[Incognito mosquito]

You are correct, you can only borrow x 4 players for 3rds or CL, unless they have changed the rules with the clubs that don't have a 3rd grade?
Multi rego is 3 any grade.

Ah perfect, thanks for confirming.

[Zonal Marking]

Absolutely disgraceful from Azzurri and a 3-0 loss is not sufficient punishment in this case. They should be hit with an additional points deduction just to put it beyond doubt that they are the club that gets relegated this season because they have no right whatsoever to claim a place in this competition.

Make no mistake you will probably hear some attempt at an excuse for the forfeit but we all know the real reason is that they did not fancy turning up and getting 10+ goals put on them by the Newcastle Suns. Suns players and staff must be fuming as well. Every team has been massively deprived of playing time due to the weather and then a team goes and pulls this type of stunt.

[Zonal Marking]

I would say as a club they have decided that a 3-0 forfeit is better for their goal difference (which may be a factor at the end of the season) than dishing up 11 players to the Suns who would have had a field day.

This is EXACTLY what has happened but it just makes it even worse

[anfield]

I think the big point is there are too many teams in each division. I have been saying this since they went to 12 team competitions. I know it's challenging now that there is 35 zone league teams, but they must find a way.

Even if they find 1 more side, then go 10,10,10,6.

Why have 10 teams in NL1 and then go back up to 12 team for zl1? In theory you want half decent sides getting relegated, clubs that would be in the top 2 to 3 of the division below. Not clubs that are really struggling to put teams on the park, let alone competitive teams each week. Less teams would help clubs towards the bottom recruit, as there would be more players looking to play in division like zl1 with less options.

I know it's easy to kick Azzurri when they are down, but this could and has happened to other clubs before. The reality is they struggled last year, meaning recruitment is difficult. Like I said, there is only so many players at a level to go around.

Yesterday there was no winners, Suns missed a game on a rare weekend with sun and the Azzurri players that did want to play miss out. Sponsors have a week without their teams running around.

[2ndclasscitizen]

They have 4 over 35s teams and about 5 all age teams who all the had the long weekend off due to no games in those comps
They could?ve rounded up a few extras

Azzurri's top All Age side plays C Grade, as if any of them would be in any way interested in giving up their long weekend to play 1st grade ZL1 and get flogged by the Sun's. Would be the same story with O35s, except with even more laughing.

[Nou Camp]

I?ve played against a few of their 35s teams
They would easily beat their ressies team
There?s some quality there compared to what normally gets put out for them
I?m sure if they called the federation, suns and explained the situation to get approval for additional players allowances would?ve been made to get games on. Better than texting the federation at 4pm on Friday and advising they?re forfeiting both grades and not returning phone calls
Zero effort was made to try and get something on

[Source]

And yet they managed to unforfeit against Cessnock to play a game there definitely taking the piss absolute disgrace to the Italian colours

[Zonal Marking]

How come the Croatia Uni game was moved from Edgeworth?

[Zone Insider]

I?ve played against a few of their 35s teams
They would easily beat their ressies team
There?s some quality there compared to what normally gets put out for them
I?m sure if they called the federation, suns and explained the situation to get approval for additional players allowances would?ve been made to get games on. Better than texting the federation at 4pm on Friday and advising they?re forfeiting both grades and not returning phone calls
Zero effort was made to try and get something on

Exactly right - no excuse to forfeit

[Zone Insider]

How come the Croatia Uni game was moved from Edgeworth?

Edgeworth closed their ground for the weekend I think coz juniors were moved the LMRFF as well.

[Mr Beautiful 2.0]

I find it somewhat entertaining that everyone assumes Azzurri would’ve lost to Suns, no doubt the same lot that assumed Cardiff would beat Azzurri 10-0. Suns should be happy to have the long weekend free and 3 points without sustaining any injuries. As for Azzurri maybe wait for the club’s public statement which is to be published tomorrow before sharpening your pitchforks and whinging on forums

[The Hacker]

I find it somewhat entertaining that everyone assumes Azzurri would’ve lost to Suns, no doubt the same lot that assumed Cardiff would beat Azzurri 10-0. Suns should be happy to have the long weekend free and 3 points without sustaining any injuries. As for Azzurri maybe wait for the club’s public statement which is to be published tomorrow before sharpening your pitchforks and whinging on forums

Yeah ok let?s play make believe and assume the team that just put 6 past Uni were going to drop points to Azzurri. I think Suns could of trotted out their reserve grade and been no fear of losing

[Eastwest]

And yet they managed to unforfeit against Cessnock to play a game there definitely taking the piss absolute disgrace to the Italian colours

What happened to their p*sshead army? 6 reverse gears, 1 forward. Where have i heard that before from the itai's :lol::lol::lol:

[Eastwest]

How come the Croatia Uni game was moved from Edgeworth?

Geez Stevos is a goat track. At least its dry though.

[Mr Beautiful 2.0]

Yeah ok let?s play make believe and assume the team that just put 6 past Uni were going to drop points to Azzurri. I think Suns could of trotted out their reserve grade and been no fear of losing

I would go onto discuss Maracanazo but you?re most likely unfamiliar with that football match instead I will just say nothing in football is certain

[Zonal Marking]

I find it somewhat entertaining that everyone assumes Azzurri would?ve lost to Suns, no doubt the same lot that assumed Cardiff would beat Azzurri 10-0. Suns should be happy to have the long weekend free and 3 points without sustaining any injuries. As for Azzurri maybe wait for the club?s public statement which is to be published tomorrow before sharpening your pitchforks and whinging on forums

And I find it somewhat entertaining that I have failed to match with Margot Robbie on tinder.

[Zone Insider]

Mid Week

Suns 10-1 Westlakes
Kotara 12-0 Azzurri
Mayfield 1-3 Uni

[TheCancer]

I find it somewhat entertaining that everyone assumes Azzurri would?ve lost to Suns, no doubt the same lot that assumed Cardiff would beat Azzurri 10-0. Suns should be happy to have the long weekend free and 3 points without sustaining any injuries. As for Azzurri maybe wait for the club?s public statement which is to be published tomorrow before sharpening your pitchforks and whinging on forums

Club statement from Azzurri, announcing they will be playing Tuesday night against Kotara. Miraculous recovery by the squad members. Kotara be prepared for a forfeit.

[the-deviant]

I would find a club statement highly unlikely from a club who pretty well refuses to post their results. Match day posts, lineups, player of the match but never the scores.

[Trigger]

Club statement from Azzurri, announcing they will be playing Tuesday night against Kotara. Miraculous recovery by the squad members. Kotara be prepared for a forfeit.

muther mary.

[Zonal Marking]

I find it somewhat entertaining that everyone assumes Azzurri would?ve lost to Suns, no doubt the same lot that assumed Cardiff would beat Azzurri 10-0. Suns should be happy to have the long weekend free and 3 points without sustaining any injuries. As for Azzurri maybe wait for the club?s public statement which is to be published tomorrow before sharpening your pitchforks and whinging on forums

So the only statement Azzurri have released is the details for their match to take place against kotara tomorrow night which im assuming they are planning on showing up to?

Have we got your permission to sharpen the pitch forks yet?

[Builtwithlove18]

You would like to think suns v Croatia is match of the round this weekend

[Zone Insider]

You would like to think suns v Croatia is match of the round this weekend

It is yes but I?m sure we will Probly see zone 3 on bartv

[Premy]

I find it somewhat entertaining that everyone assumes Azzurri would?ve lost to Suns, no doubt the same lot that assumed Cardiff would beat Azzurri 10-0. Suns should be happy to have the long weekend free and 3 points without sustaining any injuries. As for Azzurri maybe wait for the club?s public statement which is to be published tomorrow before sharpening your pitchforks and whinging on forums

That was short lived.
I hope you picked up all your toys, welcome back Mr Farnham.

[Premy]

before sharpening your pitchforks and whinging on forums
Quoted for irony and prosperity.

[Zonal Marking]

Does anyone representing Azzurri even want to try and attempt to clarify what happened from their end and explain why they forfeited the weekends fixtures?

[Alton]

Does anyone representing Azzurri even want to try and attempt to clarify what happened from their end and explain why they forfeited the weekends fixtures?

Ask the amateurs running the Zone for an explanation

[ForeverRed]

Ask the amateurs running the Zone for an explanation
I spoke to a friend who plays there, it was purely lack of numbers

[Undertaker]

Suns 1-2 Westlakes
Kotara 2-3 Azzurri
Mayfield 4-0 Uni

[Zonal Marking]

Ask the amateurs running the Zone for an explanation

Why is it the Zones responsibility to go into detail of why they forfeited?

[Zonal Marking]

I spoke to a friend who plays there, it was purely lack of numbers

That short of numbers that two teams had to forfeit? How many other matches were forfeited across the competition over the weekend across all grades?

No offence but your friend is talking BS

[ForeverRed]

That short of numbers that two teams had to forfeit? How many other were forfeited across the competition over the weekend across all grades?

No offence but your friend is talking BS
Nah he was serious

[The Postman]

Nah he was serious

I heard they had 5 players between the 2 Grades.

[Zonal Marking]

Nah he was serious

And miraculously now all those players are suddenly available again for two matches to be played tonight? Just 3 days later

[Undertaker]

And now miraculously all those players are now available for two matches to be played tonight?

Maybe and just maybe people go on holidays the long weekend?? Poor planning yes but have seen it happen in NL1 too

[The Hacker]

I heard they had 5 players between the 2 Grades.

I heard players at another club knew about the forfeit before the Suns did. If that?s the case it?s a little off. The Suns are disadvantaged big time to drive up the GD and Croatia and Kotara benefit as they already ran up a score against Azzurri and in a comp that could come to goal difference that?s average.
They should be removed and all previous results 3-0 and future results 3-0

[Zone Insider]

I heard players at another club knew about the forfeit before the Suns did. If that?s the case it?s a little off. The Suns are disadvantaged big time to drive up the GD and Croatia and Kotara benefit as they already ran up a score against Azzurri and in a comp that could come to goal difference that?s average.
They should be removed and all previous results 3-0 and future results 3-0

Hahah dumbest idea I?ve seen.

[The Hacker]

Hahah dumbest idea I?ve seen.

Why is it dumb. If the club is such a joke they can?t field a first grade side they should be removed. It would hard to remember the last time a club forfeited a first grade game if ever. If they are such a shambles kick them out and back to the bottom of the pile for them

[Zonal Marking]

Maybe and just maybe people go on holidays the long weekend?? Poor planning yes but have seen it happen in NL1 too

Yeah you are right. Now tell me out of the other 11 clubs in the league how many of their teams forfeited over the weekend? Or maybe it is only Azzurris players that go away in mass numbers.

[Zonal Marking]

Why is it dumb. If the club is such a joke they can?t field a first grade side they should be removed. It would hard to remember the last time a club forfeited a first grade game if ever. If they are such a shambles kick them out and back to the bottom of the pile for them

It’s not a dumb idea at all. The integrity of the competition has taken a massive hit and the best solution is to get rid of the clowns that have caused it.

[Zonal Marking]

I heard players at another club knew about the forfeit before the Suns did. If that?s the case it?s a little off. The Suns are disadvantaged big time to drive up the GD and Croatia and Kotara benefit as they already ran up a score against Azzurri and in a comp that could come to goal difference that?s average.
They should be removed and all previous results 3-0 and future results 3-0

Also don’t forget the other clubs who are in a relegation scrap with Azzurri. The likes of Westlakes now have to back up just days later to play again. Meanwhile Azzurri go into their midweek match recharged and the Suns are also fresh for their fixture against the wildcats.

[Undertaker]

Also don?t forget the other clubs who are in a relegation scrap with Azzurri. The likes of Westlakes now have to back up just days later to play again. Meanwhile Azzurri go into their midweek match recharged and the Suns are also fresh for their fixture against the wildcats.

Westlakes had 6 first graders out vs Cardiff too and managed to use all age players in ressies to push players up

[Zone Insider]

Hearing the powers that be held an emergency meeting with all parties.
Fine incoming in line with the rules and regs.

Apparently a email was sent to clubs so others may know more.

[ZLWB]

I heard players at another club knew about the forfeit before the Suns did. If that?s the case it?s a little off. The Suns are disadvantaged big time to drive up the GD and Croatia and Kotara benefit as they already ran up a score against Azzurri and in a comp that could come to goal difference that?s average.
They should be removed and all previous results 3-0 and future results 3-0

I don?t think Kotara have played Azzuri yet, but it?s a valid point nonetheless

[Parochial Supporter]

Azzurri look to have plenty of players tonight, by the team lists on Facebook page

[The Hacker]

Azzurri look to have plenty of players tonight, by the team lists on Facebook page

So 30 players today and less than 11 on Saturday. I call bullshit

[ForeverRed]

Who cares, move on

[MCG_1997]

Any updates on tonight's catch up games?

[Zonal Marking]

Who cares, move on

The integrity of the competition has been affected. That probably does not mean anything to you but it is not your call to just dismiss it.

[Gelato]

Suns vs Westlakes
First 4-1
Res 3-1

[Zone Insider]

Kotara 5-1 Azzurri

Why didn?t they put 15 past them?

Better change it to 3-0 to be fair

Hahahahhaa

[Undertaker]

Kotara 5-1 Azzurri

Why didn?t they put 15 past them?

Better change it to 3-0 to be fair

Hahahahhaa

Suns couldn?t put more than 4 past Westlakes and their facebook said 1-0 at HT? Westlakes have copped 9 twice and 8 once this season? Why didn?t Suns put more past them? Too busy crying over Azzurri. Tonight proved they wouldn?t have got the 10 they wanted

[Taffy]

The integrity of the competition has been affected. That probably does not mean anything to you but it is not your call to just dismiss it.

Let's not exaggerate here


Hearing the powers that be held an emergency meeting with all parties.
Fine incoming in line with the rules and regs.

An emergency meeting held, to simply follow the rules and regulations.


And miraculously now all those players are suddenly available again for two matches to be played tonight? Just 3 days later

Everyone is back home by Tuesday night


I?ve played against a few of their 35s teams
They would easily beat their ressies team
There?s some quality there compared to what normally gets put out for them

Even if they are better there are reasons people choose to go to AA and O35s and not zone. Less training, less games, and no playing on a long weekend.

[Zonal Marking]

Let's not exaggerate here

Tell me the last time a first grade team forfeited a match in this competition or previous editions of ZL1?

[the-deviant]

3 red cards for Azzurri last night

[ForeverRed]

The integrity of the competition has been affected. That probably does not mean anything to you but it is not your call to just dismiss it.
Please, it is my call, it?s 3rd division footy, move on ffs

[W8 WATCHER]

Please, it is my call, it?s 3rd division footy, move on ffs

for once your right.
Sthy a good chance of being part of the 3rd div footy next year

[Taffy]

Tell me the last time a first grade team forfeited a match in this competition or previous editions of ZL1?

What's that got to do with the integrity of the competition being affected? This is a one time thing, Suns have been given the three points and Hamilton have been issued a fine. The competition continues as normal, no need for exaggeration.

[Zonal Marking]

What's that got to do with the integrity of the competition being affected? This is a one time thing, Suns have been given the three points and Hamilton have been issued a fine. The competition continues as normal, no need for exaggeration.

Because teams just cant pick and choose when they want to play. If you have signed up to participate in the competition you have an obligation to at the very least do all you can to field a starting 11 in the first grade fixture.

Actual embarrassing takes from some of you including ForeverRed who are just happy to dismiss it.

[Taffy]

at the very least do all you can to field a starting 11 in the first grade fixture.

And you know they had at least 11 players available/willing to play?

[Lofty]

And you know they had at least 11 players available/willing to play?

11 available, just not willing.

[Zonal Marking]

11 available, just not willing.

Just didnt fancy it. Pathetic attitude

[Zone Insider]

Round 12

Stockton 2-3 Westlakes
Uni 2-2 Cardiff
Azzurri 1-3 Mayfield
Swansea 3-1 Olympic
Suns 2-2 Croatia
Kotara 4-1 Warners Bay

[Incognito mosquito]

Tell me the last time a first grade team forfeited a match in this competition or previous editions of ZL1?

Without re opening old scars.. I believe last year we (Westlakes) forfeited 1sts v Cardiff after the ground got called off after our ressies played. It was late in the season there was some conjecture around whether that decision should have been made.. the long and the short of it from my understanding was that the association imposed a forfeit from us instead of allowing us to reschedule due to extenuating circumstances. I can?t remember what impacts that had with Cardiff I know they were around that 4th-6th mark. Different scenario but just highlighting it has happened in more recent times.

[ForeverRed]

for once your right.
Sthy a good chance of being part of the 3rd div footy next year
Wouldn?t know sorry

[pv4]

Even if they are better there are reasons people choose to go to AA and O35s and not zone. Less training, less games, and no playing on a long weekend.

According to a lengthy facebook post, Azzurri O35s did choose to play over the long weekend.

Can someone confirm if this is true - I have been told #fixsmithpark is no alcohol allowed? If so this surely has to be the true reasoning behind everyone's anger at the peoples club.

[Zonal Marking]

Without re opening old scars.. I believe last year we (Westlakes) forfeited 1sts v Cardiff after the ground got called off after our ressies played. It was late in the season there was some conjecture around whether that decision should have been made.. the long and the short of it from my understanding was that the association imposed a forfeit from us instead of allowing us to reschedule due to extenuating circumstances. I can?t remember what impacts that had with Cardiff I know they were around that 4th-6th mark. Different scenario but just highlighting it has happened in more recent times.

But your players/coaches didnt decide days in advance that they didnt want to play the match?

[Incognito mosquito]

Yeah that?s right, just highlighting a forfeit in 1sts has happened in recent times. Different drivers as to why the occurred

[Mr Beautiful 2.0]

Suns vs Croatia is this game being moved to Friday? And streamed? Need some big numbers in crowds you play Friday

[Builtwithlove18]

Suns vs Croatia is this game being moved to Friday? And streamed? Need some big numbers in crowds you play Friday

Game is being played on Saturday with first grade kicking off at 5pm

[Taffy]

Without re opening old scars.. I believe last year we (Westlakes) forfeited 1sts v Cardiff after the ground got called off after our ressies played. It was late in the season there was some conjecture around whether that decision should have been made.. the long and the short of it from my understanding was that the association imposed a forfeit from us instead of allowing us to reschedule due to extenuating circumstances. I can?t remember what impacts that had with Cardiff I know they were around that 4th-6th mark. Different scenario but just highlighting it has happened in more recent times.

Yes I was thinking about this, Westlakes (and I am sure others in the past) have been able to rely on wet weather to call off a game when they didn't have the numbers or missing too many first players (it's happened in NPL as well). Last weekend Hamilton couldn't use that as an excuse and so just forfeited and copped the fine.

[Taffy]

According to a lengthy facebook post, Azzurri O35s did choose to play over the long weekend.

Can someone confirm if this is true - I have been told #fixsmithpark is no alcohol allowed? If so this surely has to be the true reasoning behind everyone's anger at the peoples club.

No O35s games played on the weekend. And we already know the rules limit the number of dual registered players.

[MCG_1997]

Round 12 Prediction:

Uni 3-2 Cardiff
Azzurri 1-2 Mayfield
Swansea 1-1 Olympic
Suns 3-2 Croatia
Kotara 5-0 Warners Bay
Stockton 4-1 Westlakes

[Zonal Marking]

Yes I was thinking about this, Westlakes (and I am sure others in the past) have been able to rely on wet weather to call off a game when they didn't have the numbers or missing too many first players (it's happened in NPL as well). Last weekend Hamilton couldn't use that as an excuse and so just forfeited and copped the fine.

Except they did have the numbers they just didnt fancy going out there and potentially having 10+ goals put past them. Ironically they actually might have kept the score respectable looking at their performance against Kotara.

It just sets a poor precedent. What if westlakes got relegated by GD this season? You might find teams tactically taking the 3-0 loss to stay in the division.

[Incognito mosquito]

Except they did have the numbers they just didnt fancy going out there and potentially having 10+ goals put past them. Ironically they actually might have kept the score respectable looking at their performance against Kotara.

It just sets a poor precedent. What if westlakes got relegated by GD this season? You might find trans tactically taking the 3-0 loss to stay in the division.

From the playing group, we wanted to play and were frustrated the game was canned on the day. I?ll leave it at that.

If we got relegated by GD this year it?s because we put ourselves in a position to be. Like all teams, we?ll continue to focus on what we can control and try to make sure something like this doesn?t impact us. Luckily there?s still plenty of football left in the year, anything could happen.

[Jardelsimage]

No O35s games played on the weekend. And we already know the rules limit the number of dual registered players.

pretty sure their socials say they played Cessnock??

[Zonal Marking]

From the playing group, we wanted to play and were frustrated the game was canned on the day. I?ll leave it at that.

If we got relegated by GD this year it?s because we put ourselves in a position to be. Like all teams, we?ll continue to focus on what we can control and try to make sure something like this doesn?t impact us. Luckily there?s still plenty of football left in the year, anything could happen.

No I’m referring to Azzurri not being keen to play against the Suns. Not the situation westlakes had last season.

[Incognito mosquito]

No I?m referring to Azzurri not being keen to play against the Suns. Not the situation westlakes had last season.

Ah my mistake, thanks for clarifying

[Builtwithlove18]

No I?m referring to Azzurri not being keen to play against the Suns. Not the situation westlakes had last season.

It?s time to move on mate?.

[Zonal Marking]

It?s time to move on mate?.

Why are you continuing to bring it up again then? We all stopped talking about it yesterday

[MCG_1997]

Heard the Match of the Round is between Crabs and Bolwarra. Can anyone confirm?

[Builtwithlove18]

[QUOTE=Zonal Marking;281498]Why are you continuing to bring it up again then? We all stopped talking about it yesterday[/QUOTE


Enjoy your weekend of football mate

[Zonal Marking]

[QUOTE=Zonal Marking;281498]Why are you continuing to bring it up again then? We all stopped talking about it yesterday[/QUOTE


Enjoy your weekend of football mate

Enjoy yours as well. A weekend off from trolling on the forum will do you good.

[the-deviant]

Heard the Match of the Round is between Crabs and Bolwarra. Can anyone confirm?

Merewether United v Garden Suburb in ZL3.

[Mr Beautiful 2.0]

Merewether United v Garden Suburb in ZL3.

Haha these jokes are funny.. almost had me

[ZLWB]

Merewether United v Garden Suburb in ZL3.

I assumed you were having a laugh, then I went to the BarTV app.
Seriously? We could have had the blockbuster game, but instead we will have 4th v 6th in Zone 3

smh

[Zone Insider]

Merewether United v Garden Suburb in ZL3.


Embarrassing just like the podcast

[straightred88]

Merewether United v Garden Suburb in ZL3.


So much for sharing it amongst clubs.
Get to watch another game of donkeys running around.

[Jardelsimage]

Embarrassing just like the podcast

it all comes down to the man controlling the puppet..

[Taffy]

Rather than sit at home, I'm going to go to the game I want to watch.

[ZoningIn!]

Interested to know who you think is Geppetto and who is Pinocchio...

[Addios]

Rather than sit at home, I'm going to go to the game I want to watch.

finally some common sense, pretty sure most on here will do the same

[Addios]

Prediction - hope rain fks off

Stockton 2-1 Westlakes
Uni 3-2 Cardiff
Azzurri 1-5 Mayfield
Swansea 2-2 Olympic
Suns 3-2 Croatia
Kotara 4-1 Warners Bay

[Zonal Marking]

Rather than sit at home, I'm going to go to the game I want to watch.

Does not really help those of us who live interstate or overseas

[Zonal Marking]

Stockton 2-2 Westlakes
Uni 4-2 Cardiff
Azzurri 0-4 Mayfield (If Azzurri bother to show up)
Swansea 2-1 Olympic
Suns 5-2 Croatia
Kotara 3-1 Warners Bay

[Source]

Mayfield to hopefully flog Azzurri if they can field a team or bother to show up
Suns and Croatia tight one but I?m tipping Croatia
Swansea over olyimpic
Kotara over the bay
Stocko over westlakes
Uni over Cardiff

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Stockton 3-1 Westlakes
Uni 2-3 Cardiff
Azzurri 0-8
Swansea 2-2 Olympic
Suns 2-2 Croatia
Kotara 3-1 Warners Bay

[Source]

Mayfield 7 Azzurri 1 firsts
Mayfield 4 Azzurri 0 Res

[Mr Beautiful 2.0]

Croatia thrashing Suns at the moment…

[Avocadomexican]

Croatia thrashing Suns at the moment?

With a lineup that?d beat some NPL sides so they should be

[Mr Beautiful 2.0]

With a lineup that?d beat some NPL sides so they should be

Biggest lose for Suns in their history the new kids on the block won’t be here for long all the best in NewFm league Croatia Fc. Hope you do us proud.

[Avocadomexican]

Biggest lose for Suns in their history the new kids on the block won?t be here for long all the best in NewFm league Croatia Fc. Hope you do us proud.

The way NewFM is theres atleast 3-4 sides that?ll move from ZL up and compete. Glad to see that Pro/Rel will ruffle the feathers of some sides who have been making up numbers across all competitions.

[Mr Beautiful 2.0]

The way NewFM is theres atleast 3-4 sides that?ll move from ZL up and compete. Glad to see that Pro/Rel will ruffle the feathers of some sides who have been making up numbers across all competitions.

Agreed.

[Jardelsimage]

The way NewFM is theres atleast 3-4 sides that?ll move from ZL up and compete. Glad to see that Pro/Rel will ruffle the feathers of some sides who have been making up numbers across all competitions.

you think so, which teams are these and who's ground is up to standard for NEWFM, even the team slated to go after todays result does not have a ground ready for the move.

[Source]

Azzurri could have taken a point against the suns if they had the balls to play them

[Avocadomexican]

you think so, which teams are these and who's ground is up to standard for NEWFM, even the team slated to go after todays result does not have a ground ready for the move.

Wallsend play on a dog track. Cant tell me thats much better than pasadena?

[Jardelsimage]

Wallsend play on a dog track. Cant tell me thats much better than pasadena?

you said 3 or 4 want to go up, I'm not comparing fields, who wants to go up, is all I've asked for?

we could rip the shit out of lots of grounds, the dog track, yes is a dog track...

[Mr Beautiful 2.0]

“Crabs v Bolwarra also going to be a massive game in this league, both look ready to go up. I feel like Croatia lifted the standard in this league last year and Crabs and Bolwarra seem to have caught onto what it takes. I think whoever goes up from Crabs and Bolwarra finish top 5 in 2026 ZL1.”

Interesting comment from the Zone league 2 thread …

[ForeverRed]

The way NewFM is theres atleast 3-4 sides that?ll move from ZL up and compete. Glad to see that Pro/Rel will ruffle the feathers of some sides who have been making up numbers across all competitions.
Your comment doesn?t add up, clubs have had nowhere to go until pro/rel was introduced so no one?s been making up the numbers they?ve just been stuck in mud by the federations

[ZLWB]

“Crabs v Bolwarra also going to be a massive game in this league, both look ready to go up. I feel like Croatia lifted the standard in this league last year and Crabs and Bolwarra seem to have caught onto what it takes. I think whoever goes up from Crabs and Bolwarra finish top 5 in 2026 ZL1.”

Interesting comment from the Zone league 2 thread …

Interesting?.and accurate.

Nobody would have beaten the Croats yesterday. They were very impressive and clearly turned up to play. Suns had a good spell in the middle of the first half, but other than that it was all Croatia. Fast, skilful, clinical.

[Guthorina]

Went to Swansea v Olympic yesterday and had a chat with the bad boy of ZL. Damn shame to hear he has suffered an ACL injury. Hope to see him back on the park soon.

Don?t write off Swansea to sneak in to 5th and have a run in the finals. They made Olympic look like a ZL3 team yesterday even without probably one of the best strikers to play for the club in their history.

After Swansea scored their second, the paltry Olympic crowd had seen enough and basically all left. Long drive home!

[Mr Beautiful 2.0]

Went to Swansea v Olympic yesterday and had a chat with the bad boy of ZL. Damn shame to hear he has suffered an ACL injury. Hope to see him back on the park soon.

Don?t write off Swansea to sneak in to 5th and have a run in the finals. They made Olympic look like a ZL3 team yesterday even without probably one of the best strikers to play for the club in their history.

After Swansea scored their second, the paltry Olympic crowd had seen enough and basically all left. Long drive home!

I’m sure Kotara fc would love to see a team like Swansea fc make 5th. Good opportunity to pile on goals and be full of confidence going in to finals.

[Source]

I think in this day and age its really surprising that clubs don?t have a canteen or bbq available for opposing clubs on there home game days especially in this competition and also it speaks volumes when there are a very very limited number of supporters it shows a club in a real crisis having all of this helps grow the club and gives stability these things should be looked at when your trying stay viable in this competition the powers to be may need to move on and allow people who have the clubs best interests at heart take over.

[Zone Insider]

Interesting?.and accurate.

Nobody would have beaten the Croats yesterday. They were very impressive and clearly turned up to play. Suns had a good spell in the middle of the first half, but other than that it was all Croatia. Fast, skilful, clinical.


Best opening to a game I?ve seen. Looked like a totally different level.

[Guthorina]

I think in this day and age its really surprising that clubs don?t have a canteen or bbq available for opposing clubs on there home game days especially in this competition and also it speaks volumes when there are a very very limited number of supporters it shows a club in a real crisis having all of this helps grow the club and gives stability these things should be looked at when your trying stay viable in this competition the powers to be may need to move on and allow people who have the clubs best interests at heart take over.


Azzurri?

[straightred88]

Azzurri?

They are one.

Hearing they close to folding all together.

[Guthorina]

They are one.

Hearing they close to folding all together.

Who are the others? I?ve only ever been to two grounds in this comp without a canteen, one azzurri, the other Croatia but I don?t think they?re going to fold anytime soon unless the $ runs out.

[straightred88]

Who are the others? I?ve only ever been to two grounds in this comp without a canteen, one azzurri, the other Croatia but I don?t think they?re going to fold anytime soon unless the $ runs out.

Been to mid week games at Warners Bay without one. Not sure about weekends.

Hard to believe the Croats wouldn?t have one.

[Zone Insider]

Kotara 1-2 Warners Bay

[Zonal Marking]

Kotara 1-2 Warners Bay

Croatia basically with a free run at the minor premiership and promotion now.

[ZLWB]

Kotara 1-2 Warners Bay
Surprising result.
As long as Croatia maintain their intensity the Minor Premiership is theirs. I mean seriously, who catches them?
With this squad they?d have a fair old crack at Northern League as well.

[onlooker]

I think in this day and age really surprising that clubs don?t have a canteen or bbq available for opposing clubs on there home game days especially in this competition and also it speaks volumes when there are a very very limited number of supporters it shows a club in a real crisis having all of this helps grow the club and gives stability these things should be looked at when your trying stay viable in this competition the powers to be may need to move on and allow people who have the clubs best interests at heart take over.

Its an all to common theme over the years of Zone Football, the clubs that pop up with a team and disappear all too quickly, it seems to be generally down to the teams being run by the players and just attaching themselves to a club. Clubs take them in but have little to any control over the running of the team. Teams like Azzurri Beresfield Jnrs and Wallsend Jnrs just to name a few, been plenty over the years. It?s mates running the team and keeping it within the mates group and not having a succession plan for when they get older and football becomes less of a priority. I do hope teams like Croatia and Crabs start thinking ahead to keep the club going for a long period of time. South Maitland are a good example of starting to do this.

[Mr Beautiful 2.0]

Croatia just ended Mayfield?s season over the weekend. As for Kotara I have said this before the wheels are falling off for them just hope the engine doesn?t completely blow and they miss out on finals

I copped a lot of stick for this comment but yet again I am right and the plumbers on this forum have proven they know nothing about football?.

[Trigger]

Its an all to common theme over the years of Zone Football, the clubs that pop up with a team and disappear all too quickly, it seems to be generally down to the teams being run by the players and just attaching themselves to a club. Clubs take them in but have little to any control over the running of the team. Teams like Azzurri Beresfield Jnrs and Wallsend Jnrs just to name a few, been plenty over the years. It?s mates running the team and keeping it within the mates group and not having a succession plan for when they get older and football becomes less of a priority.

This is Azzurri all over. Mates from All Age getting momentum & some decent players then rising through the lower zones before hitting the ceiling.
Morisset did it as well. Kotara, Mayfield U, Cardiff, Dudley, Swansea etc are long established clubs that should survive a while longer.
I feel Wallsend is hanging in there due to its established roots.
Nothing wrong with hanging in ZL2/3 to get established. I'd like to see more clubs in the Zones long term.