Newcastle United Jets 2013/2014 Squad thread

[Grimario]

It was meant to be 2m but middleby talked them down

That is a gross misrepresentation of Middleby's activities in this transfer, pv4.

What really happened is Fiorentina offered us 1m for Gallaway and Middleby said "Well, for that kind of cash why don't you take one of our good players?".

[De-Champ]

What does that really mean??
If say he is on a wage of $300,,000 per year and it is a three year deal then Fiorntina only paid $100,000

[MFKS]

What does that really mean??
If say he is on a wage of $300,,000 per year and it is a three year deal then Fiorntina only paid $100,000

!?????

Has nothing to do with his wage. Whatever he was on at the Jets is irrelevant

Assuming the 1 million fee is real then the Jets will receive what's left of 1 million after the FFA get their cut, Beard and his agent get their cut, Beards junior clubs get their allowance

[Thomas477]

It was meant to be 2m but middleby talked them down

:lulz:

[De-Champ]

!?????

Has nothing to do with his wage. Whatever he was on at the Jets is irrelevant

Assuming the 1 million fee is real then the Jets will receive what's left of 1 million after the FFA get their cut, Beard and his agent get their cut, Beards junior clubs get their allowance
You sem to be confused.
I am saying if fiorentina are paying him 300,000 per seaon then his total cost is 1,000,000 inlcuding the 100,000 paid to the jets. That is what I am saying by what does it mean???

[Grimario]

You sem to be confused.
I am saying if fiorentina are paying him 300,000 per seaon then his total cost is 1,000,000 inlcuding the 100,000 paid to the jets. That is what I am saying by what does it mean???

But you seem to be implying that wage = transfer free... or are you asking if it is part of the value?

[Premy]

Everyone should know €1,000,000 EUR is roughly $1,450,000 AUD which would be close to a A-League record fee, I'm not sure what that is by the way.

[Grimario]

Everyone should know €1,000,000 EUR is roughly $1,450,000 AUD which would be close to a A-League record fee, I'm not sure what that is by the way.

De Silva's was $2.5m

[Premy]

De Silva's was $2.5m
The next biggest I could find was Rostyn Griffiths to China for $1.3.

[Mark325]

I understand the club won't be recieving the full tranfer, but surely we get enough of it that we could shell out for the spots that are lacking right now, primarily midfield. I mean, Ward is surely gonna be cheap, considering he just seems to want to play wherever he can.

[hawk]

Geez, I hope he can hold a spot over there. Would be great for develoment and hopefully socceroos future

[Jetmaster]

He could be the next Grella/Bresciano. Playing in that league, if successful, will mean stardom for the kid and a guaranteed next World Cup.

[De-Champ]

But you seem to be implying that wage = transfer free... or are you asking if it is part of the value?

No
I am saying is that what i have read of it in the Italian Press... is that the cost to Fiorentina is $1m euros. What I am saying or more precisely what I am asking is What does thsi mean?. Cost is different to transfer fee is it not?
I do not know what the transfer is or what was paid to the Jets, as the press mentioned cost not tansfer fee.

[MFKS]

Hopefully the worm is turning and we as a country start getting our players playing again in the top leagues in Europe just like we did 10-15 years ago.

Ever so slowly the doom in Aussie football is lifting and the Socceroos future looks bright

[pv4]

De Silva's was $2.5m

Da silvas wasn't 2.5m. It has the potential to be 2.5m with sell-on fees etc. Initial 500k.

[Mark325]

We've made a signing!!!

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/newcastlejets/news-display/Jets-sign-Jonny-Steele/91162

[Jeterpool]

Cool !!!

[GazFish35]

Johnny Steele.


Pornstar turned footballer.

[GazFish35]

http://nypost.com/2014/07/10/red-bulls-make-roster-room-with-departure-of-jonny-steele/

http://www.newyorkredbulls.com/news/2014/07/red-bulls-mutually-agree-part-ways-jonny-steele

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/07/11/jonny-steeles-departure-new-york-red-bulls-deemed-mutually-beneficial

[Blackmac79]

High yellow card count?

[Premy]

From someone who watches a fair bit of MLS I think this is a top singing.

[borat]

32 starts with NYRB last season for 5 goals and a NT call up. Not used to us signing players in recent form, even an unknown player like this.

I can't work out what position he plays apart from Midfield. Anyone else have any luck? Am assuming Steele plays an attacking role and would slot into RM

[Premy]

No
I am saying is that what i have read of it in the Italian Press... is that the cost to Fiorentina is $1m euros. What I am saying or more precisely what I am asking is What does thsi mean?. Cost is different to transfer fee is it not?
I do not know what the transfer is or what was paid to the Jets, as the press mentioned cost not tansfer fee.

"transfer to @ACF_Fiorentina is worth €1million."
Does this answer your question.

[lil_masi]

32 starts with NYRB last season for 5 goals and a NT call up. Not used to us signing players in recent form, even an unknown player like this.

I can't work out what position he plays apart from Midfield. Anyone else have any luck? Am assuming Steele plays an attacking role and would slot into RM

Looking at his youtube vids looks like a left mid. Def a left footer. Looks like hes got really good vision, and finish. Im excited with this signing

[halo se7en]

But but but he's a reject, and he's 28 so he's too old... has Stubbins even watched him play? probably not.... what kind of name is Steele? or Jonny for that matter.... what a shit signing rah rah rah......why haven't we signed messi yet? I bet middleby hasn't even watched the world cup... so much for our scouting network.... jets suck....

[Premy]

But but but he's a reject, and he's 28 so he's too old... has Stubbins even watched him play? probably not.... what kind of name is Steele? or Jonny for that matter.... what a shit signing rah rah rah......why haven't we signed messi yet? I bet middleby hasn't even watched the world cup... so much for our scouting network.... jets suck....

This post wins at everything, how do you give cred again?

[Thomas477]

But but but he's a reject, and he's 28 so he's too old... has Stubbins even watched him play? probably not.... what kind of name is Steele? or Jonny for that matter.... what a shit signing rah rah rah......why haven't we signed messi yet? I bet middleby hasn't even watched the world cup... so much for our scouting network.... jets suck....

:redcard:

One signing doesn't mean we don't have issues. For every Vignaroli or Corbo, there's been Drovandi, Bates, Hakenssen, de Groot, Shoe, Ritter to an extent, Riberio etc. And let's see how he goes first.....

[Couscous]

It seems Steele played mostly on the left. He did well in the MLS at a strong club like NYRB, which is a clear step up from the A-League.

Here are comments from random Red Bulls fans which may either provide insight or be meaningless.


Hate to see him leave but he's not at the level he was last season and the roster spot definitely helps the club. Best of luck to him.


He had a 130k salary...


Sucks to see him leave even if he wasn't great this year. Hopefully he got an offer somewhere else. If we had to pick someone to cut to clear cap room you'd hope he wouldn't be first.


His form dropped off a lot.


Hate to see him go after having a good season last year. His form did drop....wish him the best


Johnny Steeeerele ! Sorry to see him go and his form did drop. Think it is best for all. Guy gave us a fantastic 2013 and is SS winner.


He was a very solid contributor last year, and scored the last goal vs Chicago in the Supporters Shield clincher.

This year, he had a good game vs Montreal. That is all.


Sad to see Jonny Steele go. A great signing by Roxburgh, we got great value in the year and a bit he was here. We had a player in 2013 that was an automatic choice at leftmid.

This year, Steeles dip in performance mirrored the teams malaise. I'm hoping a new team for Steele and a (hopefully) a new ledtmid for NYRB will help spark a revival.

Thanks Jonny.


I have mixed feelings. I really liked his character on the field and his work-ethic. He was a pretty big part of the first Red Bulls team to win a trophy and last year had stints where he was more than serviceable. He has been extremely poor this year however. I wish him the best of luck wherever he goes.


I liked Steele but he wasn't playing very well this year. Good luck to him.


He had a career year last year and locked the left mid spot down. He did a great job, especially since he was replacing a fan favorite in Lindpere. 2013 everything went right for him.

This year was a drop down from his career best. And with his salary and inconsistency this year, you had to think he was a goner in the off season anyway.

Was a good contributor and a good guy and wish him the best.

[Pico]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view8/4633245/here-s-johnny-o.gif

[Mark325]

One up-side is this dudes name is ripe for chants and different banners. Hopefully he can re-gain the form he had, apparently was amazing on his first season, dropped off in his second

[Grimario]

Just what we needed... some Steele in midfield.

Right?

[borat]

Where will he play though? Unless Steele can play CM or RM it's a strange choice. Hoping he is both right and left footed. Surely Carney didn't recommend someone who can only play in his preferred position.

Maybe Carney or Steele at LB

[borat]

Foxsports is saying we received 500k upfront for Brilliante with the rest to be add ons. That sounds about right

[Grimario]

Where will he play though? Unless Steele can play CM or RM it's a strange choice. Hoping he is both right and left footed. Surely Carney didn't recommend someone who can only play in his preferred position.

Maybe Carney or Steele at LB

Most places have him listed him as a generic "midfielder"... wikipedia, soccerway for example. Listed as an "Attacking Midfielder" on transfermarkt with secondary positions of left mid and right mid.

And then there is Football Manager, good enough as a scouting tool that numerous clubs purchase the raw SI database to identify players.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/Grimario/steele_zps98a1996a.jpg

[joel31]

was about to post he looks good for a-league on FM

[joel31]

I'm happy with brillante fee

[Grimario]

was about to post he looks good for a-league on FM

You can make even better for next edition, right? ;)

[Grimario]

was about to post he looks good for a-league on FM

I think he is more inked than anyone we have at the moment too.

[foti68]

:redcard:

One signing doesn't mean we don't have issues. For every Vignaroli or Corbo, there's been Drovandi, Bates, Hakenssen, de Groot, Shoe, Ritter to an extent, Riberio etc. And let's see how he goes first.....

You guys would whinge if we signed Messi FFS I'm Happy we are moving forward and signing players, the club is always going to sell the likes of Taggart, Brilliante and Birra success is not only winning it is also cashing in on selling younger players. Hopefully they sign the right ones. Hopefully Stubbins will give these guys a go to prove themselves unlike GVE who signed players and left them on the bench or in the Stands.

[borat]

We seem to do quite well at keeping these signings secret. Was released from NYRB on 11/7 and was negotiating with us before that

[Couscous]

He's a left mid who can play in the centre, rather than the other way around.

[plague]

One up-side is this dudes name is ripe for chants and different banners.

Shame the FFA don't seem to want chanting and banners anymore.

[plague]

We seem to do quite well at keeping these signings secret.

Prolly coz no one gives a shit anymore.

[Tommyjet]

One of the interviews on YouTube when he was at Vancouver I think has him saying his prefered position is through the middle (ie cm or am). I dare say our next signing will be more a holding style mid.

[GazFish35]

Shame the FFA don't seem to want chanting and banners anymore.

Not true. You can put his name on a banner, just put your name on the database first.

[hawk]

:redcard:

One signing doesn't mean we don't have issues. For every Vignaroli or Corbo, there's been Drovandi, Bates, Hakenssen, de Groot, Shoe, Ritter to an extent, Riberio etc. And let's see how he goes first.....

rofl. i see this as for every 2 below average players we've signed there's been 6 sh1tter.

Those comments for Steele from the yanks werent too bad.

[Thomas477]

I wouldn't say Vignaroli was below standard, wasn't he one of our best players before hunter stadium caused him to do his ACL?

And you're right, let's see how he goes. Giving him a 2 year deal as an import is a big call.

[Premy]

I wouldn't say Vignaroli was below standard, wasn't he one of our best players before hunter stadium caused him to do his ACL?

And you're right, let's see how he goes. Giving him a 2 year deal as an import is a big call.
FFS get back to the church league, pretend to look like a keeper that can't make any saves but at least dives and stop whining about Middleby or anything the Jets do. You come across as sooky 10yr old that hasn't got his way.:banghead:

[parksey]

wat

[GazFish35]

wat

I too am interested. Why did he bring up Daniel beltrame's goalkeeping?

[furns]

It seems Steele played mostly on the left. He did well in the MLS at a strong club like NYRB, which is a clear step up from the A-League.

Here are comments from random Red Bulls fans which may either provide insight or be meaningless.Have you watched any MLS? From what I have seen its pretty similar, their squad players I would actually say are probably slightly worse than your HAL squaddie. The only reason it gets mentioned more than the HAL is because their is more money to splash on better imports and marquees.

[timmy_v]

There is no way the A-league and MLS are on par.

Some teams maybe, but on a whole the A-league isn't the same standard.

look at Jesic, had a decent year here, went over there and couldn't even get a squad contract. that was what 2 years ago?

[BodyNovo]

would much prefer signing someone in there prime at 28 with a decent career than someone who is 35 and had a great career looking for his last pay check.

going to be very interesting to see how big phil sets our formation up.

hopefully montano rocks up soon as well.

[pv4]

Talking to a mate who follows closely, and has connections in the MLS, about Steele.

He says he's a very good player, and will go very well in the A-League, but says last year he dipped in form a bit. But, according to his sources, he's using this Jets venture as an excuse to party, because he's heard about the likes of Dario Vidosic etc just being on the pingas 24/7 and wants in on that action. But it sounds like half the league do similar, so I doubt it will effect his playing ability any more than the current players are.

What they find interesting is that Carney has basically teed a guy up to come play, who primarily plays Carney's position. He claims he's preferably a CM but no one in America sees him as anything but a LM. This says to our guys that Carney may be moved to LB, as they can't see him working out as a CM.

[lil_masi]

Talking to a mate who follows closely, and has connections in the MLS, about Steele.

He says he's a very good player, and will go very well in the A-League, but says last year he dipped in form a bit. But, according to his sources, he's using this Jets venture as an excuse to party, because he's heard about the likes of Dario Vidosic etc just being on the pingas 24/7 and wants in on that action. But it sounds like half the league do similar, so I doubt it will effect his playing ability any more than the current players are.

What they find interesting is that Carney has basically teed a guy up to come play, who primarily plays Carney's position. He claims he's preferably a CM but no one in America sees him as anything but a LM. This says to our guys that Carney may be moved to LB, as they can't see him working out as a CM.

Why can't carney play left wing/forward and Steele left mid?

[pv4]

Why can't carney play left wing/forward and Steele left mid?

How many attackers exactly does your desired formation include?

[BodyNovo]

Why can't carney play left wing/forward and Steele left mid?

you would assume we would play 3-4-3 if you were going to line up like that which isn't a bad idea.

http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2014/07/1041315_Newcastle_Jets.jpg

its not a bad line up on paper probably need to add another striker and another holding mid.

[pv4]

3 at the back just kill me now pls

If we're not playing 4-2-3-1 (or 4-2-1-3 if you're that way inclined) or 4-4-2 with diamond midfield I honestly don't see any hope for us.

[MFKS]

So let me get this right

We sign some nobody who has spent most of his time playing non league football in the USA cause he can't get a gig in a Euro team.

Yet some people are happy at us wasting money on nobodies who appear on the surface to be not the type to tear up this league.

Ffs we should have kept Zads and Roundabout if we wanted to be mediocre

[q-money]

cry more kfc go get a gobbie from a depressed argentinian

[BodyNovo]

3 at the back just kill me now pls

If we're not playing 4-2-3-1 (or 4-2-1-3 if you're that way inclined) or 4-4-2 with diamond midfield I honestly don't see any hope for us.

The tactical master GVE ain't running his crazy 3 man at the back set up

[MFKS]

cry more kfc go get a gobbie from a depressed argentinian

In Chile now and the café con piernas are closed

These things are definitely needed in Newy

[pv4]

The tactical master GVE

RIP militia, I cry evry tiem :'(

[De-Champ]

"transfer to @ACF_Fiorentina is worth €1million."
Does this answer your question.

Not really
as other sites say something else. Depends how it is reported.

[Jetmaster]

To wind up the Member more, I see Steele as being our very own McGlinchey.

[MFKS]

To wind up the Member more, I see Steele as being our very own McGlinchey.

FFS that's just terrible

You are much better at it than that.

Try again

[The Dunster]

There is no way the A-league and MLS are on par.

Some teams maybe, but on a whole the A-league isn't the same standard.

look at Jesic, had a decent year here, went over there and couldn't even get a squad contract. that was what 2 years ago?

THe Galaxy were one of the best MLS teams and yet were beaten by the Jets and SFC. I understand they were only exhibition matches - but overall if they were the best in the MLS then I'd rate the MLS no better than the A-league.

Milton Rodriguez was only wanted as a bench player for the Jets so he went to the MLS and did very well.

Jesic, as much as I liked the bloke still doesn't have an A-league contract and was pretty much unwanted at the Jets.

Overall, I'd say the A-League vs MLS is probabably too close to call.

[pv4]

Overall, I'd say the A-League vs MLS is probabably too close to call.

:rof:

[The Dunster]

How about some comparisons ?

[pv4]

How about some comparisons ?

Danny Allsopp walked the HAL, went to MLS and looked like he couldn't kick a ball.

[The Dunster]

:rof:

Is there an example of a player that was not good enough at the MLS who dominated the A-league ?

Fred was good here first time around - but after returning from MLS was nothing special.

Danny Allsopp did ok in the MLS scoring 5 goals in 23 games for a side that was nowhere near as dominant as Melbourne Victory were in the A-league.
Based on your assertions [ rof] Allsopp would never have scored a single goal if the MLS was so superior.

Stick with your Mariners.

[hawk]

Allsopp was ordinary in the 2nd half of his career full stop.

Gve is gone so now we have a chance of having a decent team. see what happens on the pitch. City on the other hand look like they may avoid the spoon

[pv4]

Tim Cahill went to the MLS instead of coming to the HAL because he wanted to play in a better league to keep him top notch for the WC (and funnily enough, he was our best player there).

Has anyone figured that there is a reason no HAL players go to MLS clubs? Maybe because they're not good enough?

[Premy]

Is there an example of a player that was not good enough at the MLS who dominated the A-league.David Carney.

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Brockie did **** all while in America pretty sure.

[lil_masi]

James Gardner from the herald tweeted that both Flores and Neville are back training with the main group. Excellent news 2.5mths out from the season :)

[halo se7en]

So let me get this right

We sign some nobody who has spent most of his time playing non league football in the USA cause he can't get a gig in a Euro team.

Yet some people are happy at us wasting money on nobodies who appear on the surface to be not the type to tear up this league.

Ffs we should have kept Zads and Roundabout if we wanted to be mediocre

So let me get this straight.

Instead of trying something different, we should have stuck with the same players who got us to 7th?

That makes real ****ing sense.

Have you seen Berisha's history before he landed in Brisbane? What about Carrusca? Paartalu? They have histories that would make most fans cringe at the thought of signing them.

You're right, we should have stuck with the ever reliable Zadkovich and Caravella - because they've done more than some nobody who's played for NY Red Bulls and currently represents his country. You get dumber by the ****ing day.

But hey, all foz members will forget about this if he does do really well because you whinge about everything and everyone anyway.

[lil_masi]

So let me get this straight.

Instead of trying something different, we should have stuck with the same players who got us to 7th?

That makes real ****ing sense.

Have you seen Berisha's history before he landed in Brisbane? What about Carrusca? Paartalu? They have histories that would make most fans cringe at the thought of signing them.

You're right, we should have stuck with the ever reliable Zadkovich and Caravella - because they've done more than some nobody who's played for NY Red Bulls and currently represents his country. You get dumber by the ****ing day.

But hey, all foz members will forget about this if he does do really well because you whinge about everything and everyone anyway.

lol, well said. Missed the finals 3 years in a row, need something different!!

[halo se7en]

How about some comparisons ?

Would any of our current midfield get looked at by NYRB or any other team in the MLS?

Kanta, Pepper, Oxborrow & I'll throw in Wheelhouse, Zads & Caravella for good measure.... can anyone honestly see them making it anywhere outside Newcastle?

[Grimario]

Would any of our current midfield get looked at by NYRB or any other team in the MLS?

Kanta, Pepper, Oxborrow & I'll throw in Wheelhouse, Zads & Caravella for good measure.... can anyone honestly see them making it anywhere outside Newcastle?
Kanta, definitely. He's pretty much just an Australian Javier Mascherano.

[The Dunster]

Would any of our current midfield get looked at by NYRB or any other team in the MLS?

Kanta, Pepper, Oxborrow & I'll throw in Wheelhouse, Zads & Caravella for good measure.... can anyone honestly see them making it anywhere outside Newcastle?

Kanta has injury issues which would worry any club regardless of the quality of the league.
Oxborrow is too young / immature to even be considered starting material for the Jets.
Wheelhouse is playing State league without dominating and nowhere near his best.
Zads probably yes.
Caravella, unlikely - but he wasn't in hot demand in the A-league either.

[The Dunster]

David Carney.

Fair call. I didn't realise that.

[The Dunster]

I remember reading salary data for the MLS and was shocked at how little their players are paid in comparison to players in the A-league.

That would tend to explain why not many A-league players would bother going to the MLS - or indeed would be wanted given their asking prices.

I think someone hear said Mooy and Williams were getting over 300k a season at Melbourne.

Hard to imagine any other country offering them that sort of coin - regardless of league quality.

[lil_masi]

I remember reading salary data for the MLS and was shocked at how little their players are paid in comparison to players in the A-league.

That would tend to explain why not many A-league players would bother going to the MLS - or indeed would be wanted given their asking prices.

I think someone hear said Mooy and Williams were getting over 300k a season at Melbourne.

Hard to imagine any other country offering them that sort of coin - regardless of league quality.

What ever happened to Brodie Mooy? Another of gve favourites. One of the worst players!! Just shows how ridiculous his selections were.

[Grimario]

What ever happened to Brodie Mooy? Another of gve favourites. One of the worst players!! Just shows how ridiculous his selections were.

In 2011 Mooy travelled abroad to England to trial with League 1 club Crewe Alexandra, he subsequently fractured his knee against Wigan and a bone tumour was discovered in his knee during recovery. Mooy has since recovered from surgery to remove a benign tumor and retired to concentrate on studying for a law degree entering university and studying full-time.

[The Dunster]

What ever happened to Brodie Mooy? Another of gve favourites. One of the worst players!! Just shows how ridiculous his selections were.

A rookie Defensive midfielder from the youth team being forced to play as a lone striker. Vintage GVE.

He went ok in youth league though. One of the better players in his preferred position.

[The Dunster]

Tim Cahill went to the MLS instead of coming to the HAL because he wanted to play in a better league to keep him top notch for the WC (and funnily enough, he was our best player there).

Has anyone figured that there is a reason no HAL players go to MLS clubs? Maybe because they're not good enough?

$3.625m a season is the reason Timmy went to the MLS. Quality of League has nothing to do with it.

Lots of money on offer for the top players but sfa is paid for the majority of MLS players.

[Thomas477]

FFS get back to the church league, pretend to look like a keeper that can't make any saves but at least dives and stop whining about Middleby or anything the Jets do. You come across as sooky 10yr old that hasn't got his way.:banghead:

:what:

[Couscous]

Have you watched any MLS? From what I have seen its pretty similar, their squad players I would actually say are probably slightly worse than your HAL squaddie. The only reason it gets mentioned more than the HAL is because their is more money to splash on better imports and marquees.

Yes, I've seen MLS games and I usually enjoy them. Did you watch many games last season? It's improving more quickly than the A-League, in my opinion.

Note the qualifications in my post:
- a strong MLS club, of which Red Bulls is undoubtedly one, is a step up from an A-League club.
- Johnny Steele was not a squaddie. He was a first-team player at New York.

[Tommyjet]

The fact stubbins can ask carney what Steele is like exactly makes me feel I can trust this signing until proven differently, more scouting gone into this than a lot of previous signings by gve and co

[Premy]

:what:
Read it again you perpetual sook.

[Thomas477]

Read it again you perpetual sook.

Still doesn't make sense. Care to explain how the following is me being a "sook"?


I wouldn't say Vignaroli was below standard, wasn't he one of our best players before hunter stadium caused him to do his ACL?

And you're right, let's see how he goes. Giving him a 2 year deal as an import is a big call.

Being positive on Vigs, and agreeing with whoever it was that we'll see how he goes, is hardly "sook" material. And giving an import a 2 year contract is a big call, no arguments.

You're just making yourself seem foolish with these two posts.

[militiamon]

Oi, haven't been following things much lately, but who is talking shit about Viggers?

Anyone remember him headbutting Heffernan?

I got your back T-dawg

[leftrightout]

Don't know where this started and I wouldn't think the bloke who told me knew anyone inside but I got told this arvo that the jets have spoken to tom juric regarding aus marquee.
I personally don't believe it but thought I may as well post to give something new to talk about.

[borat]

$3.625m a season is the reason Timmy went to the MLS. Quality of League has nothing to do with it.

Lots of money on offer for the top players but sfa is paid for the majority of MLS players.
This is quite true.

I really can't see why anyone is complaining about this signing. Steele was in the last year of his contract at NYRB on 130k US but wasn't getting a run this season.

So at 28 he comes to Australia for say 150k and 2 year contract. Carney would have told him the potential in the A-League to dominate like he has. The Jets get a good foreign player without spending too much. This is win win as far as I can see.

When Carney & Steele played together they played LB & LM (both can play either position). I am expecting they will do the same.

This is a good quality player who will play 1st XI at not too much coin. What is not to like. I am still expecting a DM and maybe a striker to be signed

[furns]

Tim Cahill went to the MLS instead of coming to the HAL because he wanted to play in a better league to keep him top notch for the WC (and funnily enough, he was our best player there).

Has anyone figured that there is a reason no HAL players go to MLS clubs? Maybe because they're not good enough?Timmy C went stateside because he wouldn't get half the coin here he is currently on at NYRB

[Premy]

Still doesn't make sense. Care to explain how the following is me being a "sook"?



Being positive on Vigs, and agreeing with whoever it was that we'll see how he goes, is hardly "sook" material. And giving an import a 2 year contract is a big call, no arguments.

You're just making yourself seem foolish with these two posts.

:redcard:

One signing doesn't mean we don't have issues. For every Vignaroli or Corbo, there's been Drovandi, Bates, Hakenssen, de Groot, Shoe, Ritter to an extent, Riberio etc. And let's see how he goes first.....

So it's Middleby's fault? I'm in.

All I know is that Middleby was the one chasing him for yonks and not being able to seal the deal, while Nix apparently with ease. There was so many different articles and comments saying we wanted him, going back to what, June last year? Hopefully Stubbins does assemble a good squad, but I know that I'd prefer Burns or Carney coming off the bench, as opposed to Goodwin or Virgilli. Either way, hope Stubbins knows what he's doing.

I said that we COULD use the marquee on either Burns or Carney. But what's to stop them, plus Griff and Flores starting? Chuck Carney to LB (he's a better option than Gallaway) and have Burns at LM. And it may be the predictable route, but when's there's so much previous evidence pointing towards Middleby being the cause of issues, it's not a huge leap.

Have a read, I'm not blaming Burns, I'm having a go at Middleby who has said we've been looking at signing Burns for over 12 months now, yet Nix can get a deal apparently quite easily done. Plus where's this striker who was going to be announced within 48 hours, 3 weeks ago?

Would Burns have been a starter here? Probably not, but signing him would have been a statement saying that we wanted to assemble a strong squad, not just a strong first XI. Again I'll say, if Griffo or Carney gets injured who would I rather, Virigilli or Burns? I'd take Burns precisely because he would be a starter at any other club. We haven't used our Australian marquee yet, so what's to stop him or Carney being the marquee, and the other being under the cap? If City can fit Duff under their cap, we can fit Burns.

As for Burns wanting to come back here, tbh I don't know why any of them would sign for us anyway. We have an owner who doesn't want us and would drop us if he could, an incompetent management structure headed by a bloke who's previous experience was to run another football club into the ground and a stadiums who's pitch which is worse than most all age fields around the region. Griffo especially deserves better than that.


Potentially, but it ties into the whole we'll be announcing a new striker in the next 2-3 days, 3 weeks later and nothing. Fact is our upper management is the worst in the league (perth doesn't count).

Tbh, we should have made a spot for Burns, Griff (much as I love him) doesn't have many years left, while Burns is proven at this level, and potentially should have taken the spot of someone like Virgilli who has 1 good game every blue moon. Burns or Virgilli? I'd take Burns. Cap isn't an issue, we don't have any marquees.


Well in Middleby. Been in talks with the prick for over 12 months now and couldn't arrange a ****ing permaneny transfer. Nux step in and get the deal done easy.

**** you Middleby, most useless ****ing CEO in the aleague, bar that prick who resigned Lowe, but at least he's signed a few good players. FFS.

MIDDLEBY OUT.

Good. Maybe the new owners can smack Middleby and get a decent CEO, one who's past experience isn't running a football club into the ground.


At least he got closer than BK did on a free kick that was closer. But why would we want players showing effort for lost causes? Hell, the players should just walk off the field when we concede a goal, we're gonna lose anyway.

And Sydney's fourth was a good hit, but Moss could have done better I reckon.
I can go and get more evidence for you if you would like.
You sound like a 1930's record stuck on repeat, full of boring repetitive jargon that makes one want to neck them self.
Change the record FFS :banghead:

As I said you come across as a 10yr old sook that hasn't got their way so they spit the dummy. Get back to the church league, put on you're Keeper gear (we all know you're one of those overweight expert Keepers that has no idea but looks the part) and stop whining.

Does that clear it up for you?

[Premy]

P.S "smack Middleby" that was the best bit

[Thomas477]

Cheers mon. :sup:

And premy, :roflz: Surely you have better things to do than trawl back through the back 3-4 months worth of foz to find things to have a shot at someone over. If it was the photo thread, sure but seriously, you took my comment that was willing to give Steele a go, but acknowledged the fact that in a league where the number of foreigners is capped, giving one a 2 year deal is a big call, into abusing me. Mate, get a life, or keep doing what you're doing, it's quite entertaining :popcorn:

Oh, and "your".

[Premy]

Cheers mon. :sup:

And premy, :roflz: Surely you have better things to do than trawl back through the back 3-4 months worth of foz to find things to have a shot at someone over. If it was the photo thread, sure but seriously, you took my comment that was willing to give Steele a go, but acknowledged the fact that in a league where the number of foreigners is capped, giving one a 2 year deal is a big call, into abusing me. Mate, get a life, or keep doing what you're doing, it's quite entertaining :popcorn:

Oh, and "your".
Wasn't to hard to find bud, as I said you're a perpetual sook just had to look at your post history it's all the same garbage.
Nail. Head. Bang.
Hit a nerve. Truth hurts.

Someone give the kid his bottle and shut him up.

[Thomas477]

Wasn't to hard to find bud, as I said you're a perpetual sook just had to look at your post history it's all the same garbage.
Nail. Head. Bang.
Hit a nerve. Truth hurts.

Someone give the kid his bottle and shut him up.

:roflz:

[Couscous]

http://i60.tinypic.com/oig035.jpg

So what's it all mean?

[parksey]

thomas does tend to be a bit of a lil bitch at times but i don't think he said anything wrong just before.

also, mls > a-league for sure.

[furns]

Thomas and Premy can both cease & desist thanks

[Blackmac79]

Couscous

Means he is a damn fine catholic boy who group up in a neighbourhood full of deluded followers of Henry viii. Suffered at their hands and came out the other side to spite them by playing for their separatist colony, bring it down from the inside.

Also he is a Che fan, goes alright by me.

[WolfMan]

Also he is a Che fan, goes alright by me.

I figured he just enjoyed "The Motorcycle Diaries"

[GazFish35]

WWJD.

What would Jonny Do?

[plague]

With all those tatts and a kid called Jayden then it looks like he'll be living in Rutherford.

[borat]

Squad Restrictions
Min Squad Size 20
Max Squad Size 23 (must include 3 designated Youth Players)
Max Foreign Players 5
Max NYL Contracted Players 3

Current contracted squad 20 (max 3 squad places remaining including 1 (fgn) player))[edit]

Rumoured Transfers

Striker
Holding Midfielder - Foreign Player
Nick Ward (trialling)
Sam Gallagher (trialling)

Updated Squad List

2014/15

1. Mark Birighitti
4. Kew Jaliens (fgn)
17. James Virgili
20. Ben Kennedy
21. Sam Gallaway
24. Mitchell Oxborrow (Youth Player - u21)
25. Mitch Cooper (Youth Player - u21)
29. Joel Griffiths
30. John Solari (Contracted NYL player)
??. Adrian Madaschi
??. Marcos Flores (fgn)
??. Edson Montano (fgn)

2015/16

2. Scott Neville
3. Taylor Regan
5. Ben Kantarovski
7. Andrew Hoole (Youth Player - u21)
11. Craig Goodwin
16. Jacob Pepper
23. David Carney
??. Joshua Barresi (Youth Player - u21)
??. Brandon Lundy (Contracted NYL player)
??. Jonny Steele (fgn)

Manager

Phil Stubbins (15/16)

[pv4]

Probably worth chucking a (fgn) next to Flores, Hannah & Steele.

[Grimario]

Sam Gallagher (trialling)

Unless he is CONSIDERABLY better than his resume suggests, I don't see the point in this potential signing, at all.

A left sided defender capable of playing fullback (you would imagine adequately covered by Gallaway, Carney, Goodwin, Steele) and central defender (we do need depth - but shame about the whole local lad given the boot, unless there is a massive difference in coin).

Probably asked this before... but who are our NYL team centre backs? Surely as a 4th choice, one of them would be better than spending money on a SFC/CCM/MV reject.

[lil_masi]

Squad Restrictions
Min Squad Size 20
Max Squad Size 23 (must include 3 designated Youth Players)
Max Foreign Players 5
Max NYL Contracted Players 3

Current contracted squad 19 (min 1- max 4 squad places remaining)

Rumoured Transfers

Striker
Holding Midfielder - Foreign Player
Nick Ward (trialling)
Sam Gallagher (trialling)

Updated Squad List

2014/15

1. Mark Birighitti
4. Kew Jaliens (fgn)
17. James Virgili
20. Ben Kennedy
21. Sam Gallaway
24. Mitchell Oxborrow (Youth Player - u21)
25. Mitch Cooper (Youth Player - u21)
29. Joel Griffiths
30. John Solari (Contracted NYL player)
??. Adrian Madaschi
??. Marcos Flores
??. Edson Montano

2015/16

2. Scott Neville
3. Taylor Regan
5. Ben Kantarovski
7. Andrew Hoole (Youth Player - u21)
11. Craig Goodwin
16. Jacob Pepper
23. David Carney
??. Joshua Barresi (Youth Player - u21)
??. Brandon Lundy (Contracted NYL player)
??. Jonny Steele

Manager

Phil Stubbins (15/16)

We have 20 signed.

[MFKS]

Unless he is CONSIDERABLY better than his resume suggests, I don't see the point in this potential signing, at all.

A left sided defender capable of playing fullback (you would imagine adequately covered by Gallaway, Carney, Goodwin, Steele) and central defender (we do need depth - but shame about the whole local lad given the boot, unless there is a massive difference in coin).

Probably asked this before... but who are our NYL team centre backs? Surely as a 4th choice, one of them would be better than spending money on a SFC/CCM/MV reject.

Nick Cowburn. Young local goes alright too

[borat]

Formations and Squad Depth

4-3-3 Formation (starting players listed first)

--------------------------------------Birrighitti/Kennedy



Neville/Pepper--------Madaschi/Regan---------Jaliens---------Carney/Gallaway



------Kanta/Hoole--------New Holding Mid/Oxborrow-----Steele/Lundy



-----Griffiths/Virgilli--------------------------------------------Flores/Goodwin

----------------------------------------Montano



4-4-2 Formation (midfield diamond) (starting players listed first)


--------------------------------------Birrighitti/Kennedy



Neville/Pepper--------Madaschi/Regan---------Jaliens---------Carney/Gallaway



---------------------------New Holding Mid/Kanta/Oxborrow


Hoole/Virgilli-------------------------------------------------------Steele/Goodwin


----------------------------------Flores/Barresi/Cooper



--------------------Griffiths/Virgilli------------------Montano/Lundy

[borat]

We have 20 signed.

Cheers Thanks. Updated

[borat]

Probably worth chucking a (fgn) next to Flores, Hannah & Steele.

Thanks, updated

[borat]

Unless he is CONSIDERABLY better than his resume suggests, I don't see the point in this potential signing, at all.

A left sided defender capable of playing fullback (you would imagine adequately covered by Gallaway, Carney, Goodwin, Steele) and central defender (we do need depth - but shame about the whole local lad given the boot, unless there is a massive difference in coin).

Probably asked this before... but who are our NYL team centre backs? Surely as a 4th choice, one of them would be better than spending money on a SFC/CCM/MV reject.

We need a 4th choice centre back. As this is only a trial I don't see the problem. Gallaway would be asking for min wage whereas Mitchell would have been asking for more.

[borat]

Phil mentioned mentioned in the paper today the option of playing 442. I cannot see this happeing with only 2 strikers on the books and hoping one of the 3 squad places is open for a young backup striker.

[Grimario]

We need a 4th choice centre back. As this is only a trial I don't see the problem. Gallaway would be asking for min wage whereas Mitchell would have been asking for more.

As opposed to the local youth we already have in Cowburn...?

[borat]

Isn't that why we trial these players? To see how they compare and who the coach wants.

[furns]

Formations and Squad Depth

4-3-3 Formation (starting players listed first)

--------------------------------------Birrighitti/Kennedy



Neville/Pepper--------Madaschi/Regan---------Jaliens---------Carney/Gallaway



------Kanta/Hoole--------New Holding Mid/Oxborrow-----Steele/Lundy



-----Griffiths/Virgilli--------------------------------------------Flores/Goodwin

----------------------------------------Montano



4-4-2 Formation (midfield diamond) (starting players listed first)


--------------------------------------Birrighitti/Kennedy



Neville/Pepper--------Madaschi/Regan---------Jaliens---------Carney/Gallaway



---------------------------New Holding Mid/Kanta/Oxborrow


Hoole/Virgilli-------------------------------------------------------Steele/Goodwin


----------------------------------Flores/Barresi/Cooper



--------------------Griffiths/Virgilli------------------Montano/LundySwap Carney and Goodwin imo

[MFKS]

Isn't that why we trial these players? To see how they compare and who the coach wants.

Why in ****s name do we need to trial Nick Ward??

Surely someone can make a ****ing judgement call on the bloke

[furns]

Why in ****s name do we need to trial Nick Ward??

Surely someone can make a ****ing judgement call on the blokeMaybe because the new coach wants to see him in the flesh, and try him in his system rather than rely on some bloke saying "yeah he's ok"?

[leftrightout]

Maybe because the new coach wants to see him in the flesh, and try him in his system rather than rely on some bloke saying "yeah he's ok"?

Club signs people from watching videos , club gets slammed. Club doesn't sign after having plenty of video to watch but wants to see in person and fit into new system, club gets slammed.
There is no winning with some people!

[Grimario]

Club .................................. gets slammed. Club .................................................. ................ gets slammed.
There is no winning with some people!

Took out all the pointless stuff in your post.

[MFKS]

Maybe because the new coach wants to see him in the flesh, and try him in his system rather than rely on some bloke saying "yeah he's ok"?

If Stubbins needs to see a bloke in the flesh who has failed at half a dozen HAL clubs before making a decision god help us.

[furns]

:sigh:
And if everyone played the same way with the same system you would have a point.

They dont, so neither do you.

[Jeterpool]

:sigh:
And if everyone played the same way with the same system you would have a point.

They dont, so neither do you.

Why do you do it to yourself? :wacko:

[leftrightout]

Took out all the pointless stuff in your post.

Haha good one!

[Grimario]

Why do you do it to yourself? :wacko:

:trolls:

[furns]

The Member is a great bloke, and that WC Diary thread is one of the greatest things on foz 2.0
Sometimes though his Middleby hate blinds him completely and needs to be brought back to the real world ;)

[hawk]

:sigh:
And if everyone played the same way with the same system you would have a point.

.

lol, most team go out with a plan but wouldnt know how to play the same way twice. maybe cept brissy.

[joel31]

When Stubbins says he likes a 4-4-2 diamond I think he means narrow diamond. A wide diamond leaves too much space. Goodwin and Hoole wouldn't be in midfield if that's the case

[Thomas477]

When Stubbins says he likes a 4-4-2 diamond I think he means narrow diamond. A wide diamond leaves too much space. Goodwin and Hoole wouldn't be in midfield if that's the case

+1, can't see Goodwun playing as a cm.

[la bazzle]

When jonny griff kills it in the FFA cup vs Brisbane they should snap him up

[pv4]

GK: Biraz, BK, Solari
RB: Neville, Pepper, Gallaway
CB: Jaliens, Madaschi, Regan, Gallagher
LB: Goodwin, Carney, Gallaway, Gallagher
CM: Kanta, Steele, Pepper, Ox, Cooper
RM: Griff, Hoole, Virgili
CAM: Flores, Baressi
LM: Carney, Goodwin, Steele
ST: Montano, Griff

Bringing Ward in would cover pretty much any position at a stretch, which I don't mind the idea of.

Feel like we need another out-and-out striker. It's hard to say whether we need a starter or a backup, solely because of the unknown that is Hannah Montano.

Stubbins has said he definately wants another holding mid, so that will provide more cover there.

I'm quite liking the look of that squad.

[Jetmaster]

No way will both our strikers play every game - especially with Griff aging (and his hot head).

Striker needed, or a mid that can play there if we are short.

[Grimario]

No way will both our strikers play every game - especially with Griff aging (and his hot head).

Striker needed, or a mid that can play there if we are short.

Should sign that Kale guy...

[Tommyjet]

We need a class deep mid, with good experience not just another squaddie

[lil_masi]

We need a class deep mid, with good experience not just another squaddie

+1 A quality DM is a must and a striker to finish the squad.

[MFKS]

Bridges to come out of retirement again



Trol lol lol

[borat]

When Stubbins says he likes a 4-4-2 diamond I think he means narrow diamond. A wide diamond leaves too much space. Goodwin and Hoole wouldn't be in midfield if that's the case

I think Hoole would but take your point on Goodwin

[borat]

No way will both our strikers play every game - especially with Griff aging (and his hot head).

Striker needed, or a mid that can play there if we are short.

Totally agree. Doesn't seem a lot of point training preseason as 442 when the moment one of our two strikers goes down we are stuffed. Am hoping we sign a holding mid and a backup striker.

If we sign Ward, who I am a big fan of, we would need to push Flores or Ward into second strikers role should Joel be injured or suspended. Not sure that would work.

[q-money]

can confirm griff is looking stunning in the flesh and in the mind, expect a massive year from the great man

[Mark325]

I'd like to see us sign up a quality young striker, know it's not gonna happen but Kale obviously comes to mind first in that department. Also, pretty sure Flores was playing lone striker back at Victory, which didn't work out as well for him. But, maybe with a guy like Griff or this Montano guy playing next to him he may do better in the role, so he is also a back-up for that role.

I'd also love to see us sign up an experienced holding mid, one that has been around the game for a long time. I would love for him to be a foreign player as well, just so we could say that we actually filled out all of our visa spots.

With Nick Ward, a young striker that could be our next Taggart, an experienced holding mid and a CB that could fill depth in that area, such as Cowburn and we are looking solid in all areas of the park I'd say

[joel31]

GK: Biraz, BK, Solari
RB: Neville, Pepper, Gallaway
CB: Jaliens, Madaschi, Regan, Gallagher
LB: Goodwin, Carney, Gallaway, Gallagher
CM: Kanta, Steele, Pepper, Ox, Cooper
RM: Griff, Hoole, Virgili
CAM: Flores, Baressi
LM: Carney, Goodwin, Steele
ST: Montano, Griff

Bringing Ward in would cover pretty much any position at a stretch, which I don't mind the idea of.

Feel like we need another out-and-out striker. It's hard to say whether we need a starter or a backup, solely because of the unknown that is Hannah Montano.

Stubbins has said he definately wants another holding mid, so that will provide more cover there.

I'm quite liking the look of that squad.

pepper is not a right back

[Grimario]

pepper is not a right back

Gallaway isn't a footballer.

[Bon]

pepper is not a right back


Gallaway isn't a footballer.

You are both correct..

[pv4]

pepper is not a right back

I've seen him play RM and RB at NBN level, plus from his HAL appearances I stand firm that he should be converted into one. Maybe not "let's rely on him being our first choice" like GVE wanted to, but IMO that's the position that Pepper will make it, if he ever does.

[Grimario]

And it's done...

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/newcastlejets/news-display/Jets-sign-Sam-Gallagher/91214


The Newcastle Jets have signed defender Sam Gallagher for the 2014/15 Hyundai A-League season.

Gallagher joins the Jets from Vietnamese Club Hanoi T&T, where he made 11 appearances during the 2014 V-League season, scoring two goals.

The 23-year-old graduated from the youth team of Sydney FC before having stints at Hyundai A-League Clubs Central Coast Mariners and Melbourne Victory.

Gallagher also represented Australia at U-20 level on 18 occasions, playing alongside current Jets teammates Mark Birighitti and Ben Kantarovski at the FIFA U-20 World Cup in 2011.

“I always had it in my mind that if had the chance to play in Australia again I’d look to try and take it, so when the opportunity to trial with Newcastle came up I jumped at the chance.” Gallagher said.

“Thankfully the trial went well and I was able to get a contract. I’m excited to be a Jets player and really looking forward to getting a good pre-season under my belt and giving everything I can for the Club.

“I’m lucky enough to know a few of the boys from previous experiences and the rest of the squad has been really good to me since I came in on trial, so it’s made the transition nice and easy.”

Jets head coach Phil Stubbins said the signing of Gallagher gave Newcastle added depth across the backline.

“Sam brings a real balance to the squad as a player who can fill the role of left stopper or left fullback,” Stubbins said.

“I think he’s got a lot of confidence from the experience he’s had in Asia and he’s learnt a hell of a lot from his time over there as well.

“He’s a good kid who is hungry for success and we’re pleased to have him in Newcastle.”

[Tommyjet]

Means 2 spots left right? Surely we aren't sailing anywhere near the cap and the last 2 will be 2 of the higher earners. If not than I hope Stubbins is a tactical genius

[Grimario]

Means 2 spots left right? Surely we aren't sailing anywhere near the cap and the last 2 will be 2 of the higher earners. If not than I hope Stubbins is a tactical genius

A top line midfielder and then a back up striker ((bring back the cabbage!) I mean kale) seems the obvious recruitment.

[lil_masi]

Someone on the Syd fc forum just wrote jeronimo to newcastle. Could be just a baseless rumour.

That would take our final visa spot, which I would have hoped to be taken by a quality DM. If it is true doubt he'd come cheap therefore we wouldnt have the $$$ for a quality DM (which we really need).

I would love to have Jeronimo if we had more than 1 visa spot left and $$$ to 2 more quality players.

[Bon]

Someone on the Syd fc forum just wrote jeronimo to newcastle. Could be just a baseless rumour.

That would take our final visa spot, which I would have hoped to be taken by a quality DM. If it is true doubt he'd come cheap therefore we wouldnt have the $$$ for a quality DM (which we really need).

I would love to have Jeronimo if we had more than 1 visa spot left and $$$ to 2 more quality players.

I hope not..
He can score goals, I just get put off by how much time this bloke spends diving and rolling around on the ground..

[lil_masi]

Someone on the Syd fc forum just wrote jeronimo to newcastle. Could be just a baseless rumour.

That would take our final visa spot, which I would have hoped to be taken by a quality DM. If it is true doubt he'd come cheap therefore we wouldnt have the $$$ for a quality DM (which we really need).

I would love to have Jeronimo if we had more than 1 visa spot left and $$$ to 2 more quality players.

Just went on the Adelaide forum and they're saying the deal is done and dusted, hes coming to newcastle. Dont know where that leaves us for the DM. Unless we got a quality aussie returning.

[q-money]

we are taking the zdenek zeman 1-2-7 approach this year

[leftrightout]

At least it will be entertaining winning or losing games 5-4 and 7-6 each week!
I dont mind it though, i know he gets people off with his diving but he can be our diver... and he does score goals!

[Bon]

i know he gets people off with his diving but he can be our diver... and he does score goals!

Thats the best reasoning for it.. At least he can't dive AGAINST us anymore.. haha

Actually, I reckon we got bugger all penalties last season in comparison to other teams.. You got any stats for us Jeterpool??

[GazFish35]

I hope not..
He can score goals, I just get put off by how much time this bloke spends diving and rolling around on the ground..

Newy crowd will boo him till he stops.

[Tommyjet]

I'd take jeronimo and wilkshere to be our midfield general.

[borat]

I am not so sure Jeronimo would be all that expensive. Gombau has been trying to offload him for a while and needs the Visa space. Wouldn't be surprised if a chunk of his salary is covered by AUFC.

So Australian DM speculation

Wilkshire
McKain
Wheelhouse
Lowry
Herd

[pv4]

I am not so sure Jeronimo would be all that expensive. Gombau has been trying to offload him for a while and needs the Visa space. Wouldn't be surprised if a chunk of his salary is covered by AUFC.

So Australian DM speculation

Wilkshire
McKain
Wheelhouse
Lowry
Herd

Sarota
Paartalu

[lil_masi]

If we do sign Jeronimo and fill our foreign spots, what do you guys think about signing McKain for DM?

[leftrightout]

If we do sign Jeronimo and fill our foreign spots, what do you guys think about signing McKain for DM?

Wasnt that a rumour a little while ago?
I wouldnt mind it, i think he is a good quality a-league standard player.

[lil_masi]

I am not so sure Jeronimo would be all that expensive. Gombau has been trying to offload him for a while and needs the Visa space. Wouldn't be surprised if a chunk of his salary is covered by AUFC.

So Australian DM speculation

Wilkshire
McKain
Wheelhouse
Lowry
Herd

Like I said in my previous post McKain would be the only realistic option I think considering the $$$ we'd have left.
Sarota/Paartalu would be awesome but unrealistic.

[Tommyjet]

My preference would be wilkshere before mckain. Obviously there would be a large difference in wages there but we have marquee spots open so use it.

[parksey]

yeah rate jeronimo

[WolfMan]

Newy crowd will boo him till he stops.

And so they/we should. I'm fine with gamesmanship as far as accentuating contact or making sure the officials know you've been fouled, but it's another thing entirely to invent contact that was never there.

[lil_masi]

Im thinking it'll be the first time ever that we would have used all our visa spots (5). Next season they drop to 4 which could be a problem. I'm guessing Kew will retire though.

[pv4]

My preference would be wilkshere before mckain. Obviously there would be a large difference in wages there but we have marquee spots open so use it.

I'm not sure what kind of wages Wilkshire would actually want. Apparently was on roughly 2m Euros in Russia for the last 3 years (and Russia have a flat 13% tax rate for everyone) so financially he should be pretty set.

[borat]

If Stubbins has set on 442 with a midfield diamond, do we need a expensive DM?

A midfield like this is pretty competitive IMO

----------------Kanta

Jeronimo------------------Steele

----------------Flores

[lil_masi]

I wouldnt want a DM of lesser quality than Kanta, hoping for an upgrade. Kanta will be a good strong backup.

[Blackmac79]

Jeronimo all but confirmed.

[la bazzle]

Lol as if you'd boo a diver in your own team. Whinge about it on the forum after they've won the game.

[lil_masi]

+1

[parksey]

where bread from tuff hear in newi m8

[Rocknerd]

Jeronimo all but confirmed.

Sounds like they're trying to bait me into buying their shitty merch, never gonna happen (buying the merch not Jeronimo)

[lquiquer]

Hello Newmann

[borat]

It's a mouth watering prospect of Flores, Jeronimo and Joel on the pitch at the same time

[Blackmac79]

So we are playing a 1-0-0-10.

[lil_masi]

It's a mouth watering prospect of Flores, Jeronimo and Joel on the pitch at the same time

This would be the first year we've had so many quality attacking players since season 2.

Griffo
Milton
Bridge
Carle
Coveny

[leftrightout]

Well we have been complaining for years about lack of creativity and goals particularly at home games... certainly shouldnt be an issue this year!

[WolfMan]

That's all well and good, but when we need to park the bus and defend a lead, we'll only have one of those SMART cars…

[Premy]

I think/hope if he stays injury free this will be Kanta's biggest year yet.
The poor kid has only had 11 appearance's in the last 2 seasons due to injury and its easy to forget his still only 22.

[pv4]

GK: Biraz, BK, Solari
RB: Neville, Pepper, Gallaway, Hoole
CB: Jaliens, Madaschi, Regan, Gallagher
LB: Goodwin, Carney, Gallaway, Gallagher
CM: Kanta, Steele, Pepper, Ox, Cooper
RM: Griff, Hoole, Virgili, Baressi
CAM: Flores, Baressi, Ox, Cooper
LM: Carney, Goodwin, Steele, Jeronimo, Lundy
ST: Montano, Jeronimo, Griff

Taken the liberty of including a few more people to potential covering positions.

Add in a quality CM/CDM and I'm so, so confident for this season.

[The Dunster]

Kanta injury free is more than enough quality and dominance in the middle of the park.

[Mark325]

The poor kid has only had 11 appearance's in the last 2 seasons due to injury

That right there is the reason why we should sign someone instead of relying on him. I think most agree that the kid has got loads of talent, and if he does stay consistently healthy he could be one of our best players. But, when the kid is so injury prone I would rather sign someone else for re-assurance, that way 10 games into the season we aren't left with a mediocre DM

[lil_masi]

From TWG

A Reds source declared that discussions over a proposed move had been "on-going for some time" and that a deal was now close to be finalised for Neumann, who is contracted to Adelaide until the end of the 2014-2015 season.

It is understood 28 year-old Neumann is keen to secure his future, with the Jets offering a multi-year deal.

"It's not the club's policy to stand in the way of a player who can legitimately establish a longer term future elsewhere and this is where we find ourselves in relation to Jeronimo," the Reds source said.

The source insisted, though, that a deal had not yet been fully ratified.

Neumann, who joined Adelaide in August 2012, made an indelible impression at Coopers Stadium, scoring 16 goals in 51 appearances and catching the eye with some superb strikes and an ability to improvise in tight situations.

If the move goes ahead it will be just the latest capture for the Jets, who earlier this week announced the arrival of former Young Socceroos defender Sam Gallagher on a one-year deal.

Former A-League player of the year Marcos Flores, Northern Ireland international Jonny Steele, former Socceroos defender Adrian Madaschi and attacking midfielder Joshua Barresi have also been added to the playing group since Stubbins took the helm.

[BodyNovo]

good to see we have actually used our visa spots on players who are going to start and not fill up squad spots.

[Grimario]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2014/07/18/newcastle-jets-land-jeronimo

Confirmed now

[Bon]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2014/07/18/newcastle-jets-land-jeronimo

Confirmed now

Jeez, its nothing but Adelaide fans blowing up about it on TWG's facey page..
Thats a good sign yeah?

[Jetmaster]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2014/07/18/newcastle-jets-land-jeronimo

Confirmed now

No - the Member has not given his blessing yet.

[Bon]

No - the Member has not given his blessing yet.

Well, it isnt Kale, which means that the Member is not going to be giving his blessing..

[The Dunster]

Jeronimo is a great signing for the Jets. Proven performer at A-league level and he would not have broken the bank either.

[furns]

If this doesnt bring Argy back to Jets games nothing will ffs

[q-money]

lol remember this

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2009/06/30/valderrama-newcastle-jets



In what could be the biggest recruitment coup in the A-League’s short history, Colombian World Cup hero Carlos Valderrama has announced his interest in coaching Newcastle Jets.

[Jeterpool]

Jeronimo is a great signing for the Jets. Proven performer at A-league level and he would not have broken the bank either.

This is it for me.

He knows where the net is, and is a proven, known quantity. He has pace too, like Gallaway.

The only concern for me is that refs may be aware of his tendancies to excentuate contact, which could be an issue. In saying that, we need players who have the nous to win free kicks in the fromt third; something we haven't really done in the past.

[WolfMan]

This is it for me.

He knows where the net is, and is a proven, known quantity. He has pace too, like Gallaway.

The only concern for me is that refs may be aware of his tendancies to excentuate contact, which could be an issue. In saying that, we need players who have the nous to win free kicks in the fromt third; something we haven't really done in the past.

Sounds like you're saying he's got that point of difference. Are you GVE in disguise? ;-)

[furns]

According to the Herald, we are not only trialling Ward, we are also trialling Blacktown City midfielder Kearyn Baccus.
And that an experienced DM is also to be signed.

[lil_masi]

According to the Herald, we are not only trialling Ward, we are also trialling Blacktown City midfielder Kearyn Baccus.
And that an experienced DM is also to be signed.

Herald says we have 2 spots left. Im pretty sure its 1 spot left so that leaves the DM position. Dont know why these other players are trailling.

[Tommyjet]

I remember reading many good things about kearyn baccus a couple of seasons ago in Europe, also heard he's been easily a class above the rest of the competition for blacktown. If there are 2 more spots left more than one to go to him if he trials well.

[Jeterpool]

Sounds like you're saying he's got that point of difference. Are you GVE in disguise? ;-)

You know what I look like, so only you know the answer to that. :gent:

[Tommyjet]

And seriously is it 1 or 2 spots left. Can someone that can count work this out.

[Premy]

He has pace too, like Gallaway.:lol:

[scarfy96]

The only concern for me is that refs may be aware of his tendancies to excentuate contact, which could be an issue.

So you are saying it should take the pressure of Joel in that regard?

Do we run a sweep as to which Jet will receive the first card of the season for simulation?

[MFKS]

No - the Member has not given his blessing yet.

Approval is forthcoming.

The bloke is HAL standard and its good we are actually signing blokes other clubs want.

Not just the next Chris Payne or Joey Gibbs or some other irrelevant shit count


Add in that behind Berisha this bloke is the next biggest grub in the HAL

Can't wait to watch this bloke go flying in the box and winning pens for the Griff to send Newy into delirium.


Just wish now I had bought more Argentina flags rather than the 1 when I was there

[lil_masi]

According to the Herald, we are not only trialling Ward, we are also trialling Blacktown City midfielder Kearyn Baccus.
And that an experienced DM is also to be signed.

Hope we are pulling off some sort of syd fc/victory swifty and moving the Ox/Cooper back onto NYL contract and then freeing up a spot for Baccus (which will be a like for like swap). Or letting Virgilli explore other opportunities because I'm positive we have 1 spot left.

Bira/BK
Neville/Gallaway
Kew/Madaschi/Reagan
Goodwin/Gallagher
Kanta/Pepps/Ox
Flores/Barresi/Cooper
Griffo/Hoole/Virgilli
Carney/Steele
Edson/Jeronimo

That's 22. 1 for a DM.
I hope they're not looking at these 2 players for the final spot on the roster if in fact there is 1 left.

[WolfMan]

Is the international marquee spot taken?

[lil_masi]

Is the international marquee spot taken?

No marquee spots are taken

[MFKS]

No marquee spots are taken

Give Griffo a pay rise then FFS

[Tommyjet]

Hope we are pulling off some sort of syd fc/victory swifty and moving the Ox/Cooper back onto NYL contract and then freeing up a spot for Baccus (which will be a like for like swap). Or letting Virgilli explore other opportunities because I'm positive we have 1 spot left.

Bira/BK
Neville/Gallaway
Kew/Madaschi/Reagan
Goodwin/Gallagher
Kanta/Pepps/Ox
Flores/Barresi/Cooper
Griffo/Hoole/Virgilli
Carney/Steele
Edson/Jeronimo

That's 22. 1 for a DM.
I hope they're not looking at these 2 players for the final spot on the roster if in fact there is 1 left.

Baressi young enough for youth?

[Mark325]

Baressi young enough for youth?

He's 19. If we need to free up room for Ward, the experienced DM and kearyn baccus, then I would say move Baressi, Ox and Cooper down to Youth

[Thomas477]

I'm a Middleby hater, but I'll admit, him and Phil have done good work here. However, this is the point I was trying to get at when Nux signed Burns. By having more A-League quality in the squad, it covers us for injuries. KUTGW Robbie and Phil.

Although I am interested to see where that leaves Hannah in the pecking order.

[foti68]

On the radio this afternoon it was stated that we still had 2 spots to fill after the signing of Jeronimo. So I would assume that one of the younger players has been moved into Youth.

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Is the international marquee spot taken?

No, but we have 5 foreigners.

[Jeterpool]

:lol:

:gent: ;)

[Jeterpool]

So you are saying it should take the pressure of Joel in that regards

Yes I am

[GazFish35]

Before it happens, can I call the first goal Joel scores from Flores assist, the "flo-jo"

[Grimario]

Guys, can someone confirm what has actually gone wrong this off-season?

Apart from losing our golden boot and Bearded superman, we appear to be doing lots of stuff right... and we appear to be doing it WELL in advance of the season starting.

What the **** is going on?

Is the answer as simple as this thread... http://www.newcastlefootball.net/forum/showthread.php?911-Grimario-OUT

First ever off season I have been out of Newcastle? :yay:

[hawk]

I'm a Middleby hater, but I'll admit, him and Phil have done good work here.
.

well robbie is the constant and stubbs the variable so it appears stubbsy is the star. Middleby does appreciate the fans though

[pessimist]

Guys, can someone confirm what has actually gone wrong this off-season?

Apart from losing our golden boot and Bearded superman, we appear to be doing lots of stuff right... and we appear to be doing it WELL in advance of the season starting.

What the **** is going on?

Is the answer as simple as this thread... http://www.newcastlefootball.net/forum/showthread.php?911-Grimario-OUT

First ever off season I have been out of Newcastle? :yay:

Agree BUT we havent seen any results yet.

[Jeterpool]

Anyone else see the coincidence that Jeronimo has signed for the Jets?

[la bazzle]

Can't wait till he pulls off a lovely piece of gamesmanship, everyone cheers as we score and then peeps have a whinge later when they get home. Meanwhile points are gained and griff knocks one in from the spot. Awwwwww yeahhhhhhh. About time we had someone with the ability and know how to make it clear to the referee that they've been fouled, just like the brilliance that is Arjen :wub:

[Jeterpool]

Can't wait till he pulls off a lovely piece of gamesmanship, everyone cheers as we score and then peeps have a whinge later when they get home. Meanwhile points are gained and griff knocks one in from the spot. Awwwwww yeahhhhhhh. About time we had someone with the ability and know how to make it clear to the referee that they've been fouled, just like the brilliance that is Arjen :wub:

Don't get me wrong, happy if he's going to engage in gamesmanship that it's to our benefit.

[sammydog]

Don't get me wrong, happy if he's going to engage in gamesmanship that it's to our benefit.

ADP does it, the commentators fap over him for doing it, so it must be legit. Its the sign of a quality player that sucks in the opposition.

[la bazzle]

Don't get me wrong, happy if he's going to engage in gamesmanship that it's to our benefit.

Exactly. ADP doing it was a disgrace and was everything thats wrong with the game. Jerro and Griffo make it an art form that should be celebrated

[GazFish35]

You forgot to ad arjen to your list Baz. ;)

[la bazzle]

Don't worry I mentioned the great man earlier.....Arrrjjjjennnnnn

[WolfMan]

Just on Arjen - I'm pretty sure through the World Cup that every "dive" he was actually fouled - even if only slightly. Credit where it is due, I don't personally call that diving.

[la bazzle]

Exactly. That is letting the referee know he's been fouled. Why should people get away with small fouls that the referee might miss?

[joel31]

Jeronimo is a player I really rate. He can score and create. Hopefully he does well for us

[WolfMan]

Jeronimo is a player I really rate. He can score and create. Hopefully he does well for us

That is without doubt,
One of the lesser Haiku's,
I have ever read

:grin:

[Grimario]

Wonder if we are going to call him Heronimo or Geronimo....

[joel31]

That is without doubt,
One of the lesser Haiku's,
I have ever read

:grin:
I wasn't even trying to rhyme

[GazFish35]

I remember reading many good things about kearyn baccus a couple of seasons ago in Europe, also heard he's been easily a class above the rest of the competition for blacktown. If there are 2 more spots left more than one to go to him if he trials well.

Have heard similar reports, box to box midfielder dominating nsw premier league.

Might end up cup tied though.


Would much rather the club give a young bloke a chance than give another journeyman a contract.

[The Dunster]

kearyn baccus has never lived up to the hype surrounding him
France, Italy, Sydney FC, Perth Glory - he's always been the next big thing and never produced when facing quality opposition.

Kale Bradbury mk2.

Pass.

[borat]

He's 19. If we need to free up room for Ward, the experienced DM and kearyn baccus, then I would say move Baressi, Ox and Cooper down to Youth

If Baressi's contract is registered as a full time youth contract, which I believe we had 1 left, then that would free up an extra HAL squad position

A bit like MCFC signing Villa, until the contract is registered with the FFA you don't know what squad role they have taken

[pv4]

I'm led to believe only Ox, Cooper & Lundy are on NYL contracts.

[lil_masi]

I'm led to believe only Ox, Cooper & Lundy are on NYL contracts.

Dont think thats correct.
Solari/lundy are def on NYL contracts.

Then we must have 3 u21 players on senior contracts.
That leaves hoole, ox, cooper, baressi.

Not sure how you could move a player from a senior to nyl contact when min senior is like 10k more than max nyl.

[pv4]

Is that 3 u21 senior contract thing legit? Don't Sydney FC only have one?

[borat]

Is that 3 u21 senior contract thing legit? Don't Sydney FC only have one?

It's still in the CBA.

I believe it's only Lundy and Solari that are on Contracted youth players. Ox was upgraded to the senior squad when he received his last contract.

The whole system is a joke because clubs rarely announce who holds these roles

[borat]

The squad rules state that the HAL squad of 20-23 places, must have 3 U21 players.

The NYL squad can have 3 designated NYL Youth Contracted players signed to min wage HAL contracts. NYL players are u20.

This effectively boosts your contracted squad to 26.

[Jeterpool]

I'm really interested to see how the side lines up this year. We will get an idea on Wednesday I suppose.

Has anyone been to training sessions? Shed any light on the new Big Phil's (lets face it, Phil Scolari can't be called that and more because he doesn't have a job and not many people know Phil Brown) formation and tactics?

[Mark325]

I'm really interested to see how the side lines up this year.

I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I wonder how Stubbs is gonna use Jeronimo, seemed to be used mostly as a super sub in Adelaide and considering Griff may struggle with full games and Montano is untested at an A-League level I wonder how we'll use him, so the front two is a bit hard to predict. Safe to say Flores is AM. At right I would say we'd use Hoole since he is the best option out of the lot lot we've got in my opinion. The left side is very interesting in my opinion, assuming we want start both Carney and Steele, one of them is going to have to go to LB. Seems like we're signing an experienced DM so assuming he'll start with Kanta being a solid back-up. At RB Neville hopefully can start, was quality before his injury last season. And at CB I would say Kew and Madaschi but if Regan were to start I wouldn't complain, and I could feasibly see it happening as well. Basically, this was a long as **** way of saying I couldn't tell you and I apologise for that, but at least it's interesting to think about

[MFKS]

What sort of shit is going on here when a comment that Griffo may struggle to play a full game is allowed????

FFS :bs:

Mods should be belting people with the banning stick for utter lies and blasphemy

[The Postman]

If Paartalu does come to the Jets they would have close to best 11 in the league.

Birighitti
Neville - Madaschi - Jaliens - Goodwin
Paartalu - Steele
Griffiths - Flores - Carney
Jeronimo

And Stubbins would have 2 players for every spot now.

Bk
Hoole - Gallaway - Regan - Gallagher
Kantarovski - Pepper
Barresi - Cooper - Virgili
Montona

[Jeterpool]

If Paartalu does come to the Jets they would have close to best 11 in the league.

Birighitti
Neville - Madaschi - Jaliens - Goodwin
Paartalu - Steele
Griffiths - Flores - Carney
Jeronimo

And Stubbins would have 2 players for every spot now.

Bk
Hoole - Gallaway - Gallagher - Pepper
Kantarovski - Oxborrow
Barresi - Cooper - Virgili
Montona

Without having seen Montano, I'd swap griff and Neumann in your line up but I think you're bang on.

The thing with Partaluu is he could play that holding role by himself. We've seen in the past we've retro-fitted two players in there because they didn't have the nous or legs to cover that role. I think Steele will play a box to box type role in that regard, leaving Partaluu sit.

Kanta can do the sitting role too. He has very good positional sense and made such a difference in that regard when he came on last season.

And no Reegz for second team duty!?!

[The Postman]

Yeah forgot about Reegs, fixed now

[The Postman]

My thinking with 4-2-3-1 was to fit Goodwin, Steele and Carney together in the same lineup, 3 left sided attacking players. Could always go the 4-4-2 diamond.
But then Carney or Steele would have to play RM

Paartalu
Carney - Steele
Flores
Griff - Jeronimo

[joel31]

My thinking with 4-2-3-1 was to fit Goodwin, Steele and Carney together in the same lineup, 3 left sided attacking players. Could always go the 4-4-2 diamond.
But then Carney or Steele would have to play RM

Paartalu
Carney - Steele
Flores
Griff - Jeronimo
Carney would play right out of those two I think but we'll see in preseason