Middle East is a bit of a mess atm.
Middle East is a bit of a mess atm.
Originally Posted by Couscous
Compared to when in the last couple of thousand years??
Hello to you too Couscous.
At the moment?
Ok then.
Must be Trumps fault.
Today is a public holiday in Canberra. The first Reconciliation Day.
You guys should reconcile, too.
But that would infer we are divided?
We all serve under the one true Griff.
Well except for gypos but they are poor and no one cares what they think.
This Trump/Kim Jong stuff is interesting.
If compared to previous Presidents, Trumps accomplishment (however 'staged' it is) should be applauded by the rest of the world.
but.
they just cant do it.
and this is how the bloke is gonna get re-elected in 2020.
What price he is officially keeping up the sanctions but has brokered deals to provide US aid and other imports off the record??
He got to be getting deals done in the background
i dont even know if that 'needs' to be the case.
the negotiations are pretty clear, and both sides have their chips to deal with.
Kim does have quite a few nukes ready to drop, so he does have a bit more leverage than most people give him credit for.
Trump has repeatedly said, if you give them up, we'll bring money in. Not 'aid' like the Iran deal, but investment by outside interests mostly from China, Japan and Sth Korea. It would look pretty enticing for Kim Jong to be known as the bloke that brought a whole country out of poverty. its a bit better legacy than being the bloke that got them all fried from a war.
Maybe Kim does have good intentions at heart, and maybe this can work. and in true Trump form hes doing it all with other peoples money, but will get the credit.And thats fine, because if it does in fact prevent a war, and makes the lives of Koreans better, then how the hell can anyone have a problem with that?
but yeah, people will.
Honest question:
Is there anyone on this foz that is legit gonna vote for Bill Shorten?
Not talking the Labor party, its policies, or even an 'anti Liberal' vote.
But is anyone basing their vote in next years general election on their wish to see Bill Shorten as our Prime Minister?
Because i clearly cant for the life of me think of a more dishonest, untrustworthy politician in my life than this guy.
everything he says, touches and looks at just reeks of grubbiness.
ive happily voted Labor and Liberal in the past.
Theres certainly been plenty of 'unlikeable' politicians out there. People HATED Rudd, Gillard, Howard, Keating and Abbott.
But personally i think they at least gave off a sense of believability. It was fine to hate on them because you saw who they were and there was a sense of dignity in at least being open about yourself.
but Shorten, oh man. just a despicable human being.
Or am i missing something?
Bill Shorten is right wing conservative scum much the same as Malcolm Turnbull. Why vote for a replica when you can vote for the genuine item ?
As for voting and elections in Australia - The Coalition / Liberal Party has NEVER LOST an Election. NEVER.
They have though handed over control to their subsidiary [Labour Party] when the economy had or was about to tank.
I take it you haven't met Tony Abbot then ? He's a bit like Anthony Mundine in that the media filter out all the good stuff and twist the shit out of everything else.
I know for a fact Abbot has some very left wing views when it comes to unemployment / welfare but his own party crucified him for it.
Last edited by The Dunster; 20-07-2018 at 12:31 PM.
Labor/Shorten are lesser of two evils for me.
But I wish they'd scrap the whole thing and go benevolent dictatorship. The adversarial bullshit is so hard for me to stomach. And the bastards ruined the NBN so **** em
Actually just another sub point. If the leaders swapped parties. I'd be so down for hating a Shorten-led Libs and all over the Turnster's Labor.
Well yeah you pretty much just answered the question.
and it's this very reason why I cheered for Trump.
I can't see the point in elections when we could simply elect public officials based on their social media stats.
And once they get into parliament let's make it a big brother style;e thing whereby every Sunday the public get to phone in and vote out a politician of their choosing.
Last edited by The Dunster; 20-07-2018 at 04:29 PM.
Republic...
President Mark Latham farken.
All gags aside about the lunatic but Facebook etc are doing the right thing kicking Alex Jones off their platforms.
Hes still got his 1st amendment right to sprout his gospel, but its not up to a private company to be obliged to broadcast it.
having said that............................those cake bakers should also be allowed to choose their customers.
I have never heard of Alex Jones. Which Boy Band was he in ?
So what exactly did he do this time to get an across the board (bar Twitter) removal from Social Media???
Cant seem to find it
oh i dont think it was one incident.
just a continual deluge of garbage.
So just the self righteous left bullying to silence opposition ??
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