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    I already brought it up in the supporters thread..

    http://www.newcastlefootball.net/for...348#post147348

    But did anyone else experience numerous WSW fans sitting in their hard earned and paid for members areas? I was absolutely gob-smacked how many were in the gold and silver areas of the western stand, apparently "to get out of the sun". No challenge from the secos because there are none in the whole western stand to check tix.

    And what is the latest of how the oppressed Squadron went yesterday?

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    I had been hesitant to jump on the "Enver Out" bandwagon, but yesterday summed it up for me. He is atrocious.

    Not sure what happened to the positive, attacking threat he was last season. Perhaps he just looked good compared to what we dished up before he arrived?

    He is quite literally a waste of money and more importantly, a visa spot.

    Can never fault his level of effort, but it's time to say goodbye


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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfMan View Post
    I had been hesitant to jump on the "Enver Out" bandwagon, but yesterday summed it up for me. He is atrocious.

    Not sure what happened to the positive, attacking threat he was last season. Perhaps he just looked good compared to what we dished up before he arrived?

    He is quite literally a waste of money and more importantly, a visa spot.

    Can never fault his level of effort, but it's time to say goodbye

    and the award for the song that will now be stuck in my head for the next few days goes to

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    old too many touches enver stunk it up yesterday. ya can't fault the bloke for having a red hot go, it's just his decision making is so, so awful.

    how many times could he have just hit something into the box instead of doing that ridiculous cutback and getting robbed? yeeeeesh

    i know that the triff rustles everyones jimmies but if he doesn't slip in the first half after that frankly brilliant set-up play - and gets a decent shot away, he looks like a genius.

    frustrating game, west sydney the far better pressing team but they seemed to just take their foot off the gas in the last half hour. what ya wouldn't give for a griff or a taggz that can take the game by the scruff of the neck in that situation when the pressure comes slightly off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by q-money View Post
    i know that the triff rustles everyones jimmies but if he doesn't slip in the first half after that frankly brilliant set-up play - and gets a decent shot away, he looks like a genius.
    My problem with Triff is he does that every game.

    After good lead up play, he gets the into a great position & he loses control of the ball or falls over or makes a bad decision and passes to a teammate in a worse position.

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    You wanted them to go down swinging. Whether it's 'given' to us or we 'take it' makes zero difference. They put in the effort the last 20 and created some chances but unfortunately we don't have anyone seemingly capable of finishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo se7en View Post
    You wanted them to go down swinging. Whether it's 'given' to us or we 'take it' makes zero difference. They put in the effort the last 20 and created some chances but unfortunately we don't have anyone seemingly capable of finishing.
    Birraz was on target

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    Plague makes a good point
    Yeah look I didn't really read most of Jeterpools post but just wanted to bring this to everyone's attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    ...But our front unit needs to be refreshed. I would start by dropping Enver and Milos. I'd move Nordstrand central and retain Leo. I'd introduce Kitto or Cooper left, Lundy or Brennan right.
    Now that we aren't playing for the top six (despite what Scotty may be saying in the press), it is time to start experimenting with these positions, I would love us to have the balls to do what Jeterpool just suggested and blood a few new combos, now is the time to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    Yeah look I didn't really read most of Jeterpools post but just wanted to bring this to everyone's attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8 View Post
    Now that we aren't playing for the top six (despite what Scotty may be saying in the press), it is time to start experimenting with these positions, I would love us to have the balls to do what Jeterpool just suggested and blood a few new combos, now is the time to do it.
    Not just blood them, but work out whether you actually want to retain them or not, once and for all. Especially if the management team know they don't want to retain any of the players currently in the starting XI
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve136 View Post
    Yes, but the vitriol directed towards the guys up top is like a snowball that been building all season.

    We're equal fifth best in terms of goals conceded this season. Not the best, but not bad by our standards.

    We're last in terms of goals scored, 5 behind even CCM.

    So while you're absolutely correct that if we hadn't conceded today we wouldn't have lost, it's hard to argue against the idea that our real weakness this season has been our ability to score goals, rather than prevent them.

    As I said, your point is definitely right. But given the framework of our season, it's understandable that a lot of frustration is vented towards our strikers.
    If we had better defenders we could play higher up the park or in a more attacking formation and put pressure on the opposition.
    Instead the team is always on the back foot which allows the opposition to dictate the match and isolate our lone striker.
    MIlos is doing fine. IT's the shit beetles surrounding him that's the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    If we had better defenders we could play higher up the park or in a more attacking formation and put pressure on the opposition.
    Instead the team is always on the back foot which allows the opposition to dictate the match and isolate our lone striker.
    MIlos is doing fine. IT's the shit beetles surrounding him that's the issue.
    Very valid point. How many times did Wanderers fullbacks cause us problems compared to ours? We have a go at our strikers/wingers for nor defending but now we need to start having a go at our defenders/midfielders for not helping out in attack.

    We need to be able to keep the ball long enough for our fullbacks to get into attacking positions and our midfielders too. Instead we only ever counter attack. Even when Wanderers gave us the ball for the last 20 mins we still went at it 100 mile/hr and coughed up possession/sent in useless crosses. Leo and Enver won some free kicks which we did well with but we had no patience and couldn't move them around like a decent team should.
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    in a positive: leo's delivery to boogs for that header that hit the woodwork was absolutely spot on, more of that pls

    reddy was beaten all ends up

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8 View Post
    Now that we aren't playing for the top six (despite what Scotty may be saying in the press), it is time to start experimenting with these positions, I would love us to have the balls to do what Jeterpool just suggested and blood a few new combos, now is the time to do it.
    whilst this is a noble and pro active thought, you do run the risk of pissing off established players by benching them for no reason, and make them watch people audition for their jobs.
    plenty of blokes would be straight out the door if that was the case, and you'd sure wanna hope the replacements are up to scratch or else you are doubly screwed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    Very valid point. How many times did Wanderers fullbacks cause us problems compared to ours? We have a go at our strikers/wingers for nor defending but now we need to start having a go at our defenders/midfielders for not helping out in attack.

    We need to be able to keep the ball long enough for our fullbacks to get into attacking positions and our midfielders too. Instead we only ever counter attack. Even when Wanderers gave us the ball for the last 20 mins we still went at it 100 mile/hr and coughed up possession/sent in useless crosses. Leo and Enver won some free kicks which we did well with but we had no patience and couldn't move them around like a decent team should.
    To be fair this issue has been exarcebated by our club and suspension.

    Hoffman to his credit Bombs forward all day. So any criticism of him should be down to the quality he offers rather than his efforts at getting forward.

    We did have left back in Leaky who had the ability to do so but chose to let him go and not replace.

    We have then proceeded to plug the hole with Cowburn who although trying hard we can all see how uncomfortable he is at using his left and being on that side of the pitch.

    If it Cowburn it is Jackson who despite being left footed looks even less comfortable in that position. Defensively he does OK but in attack he offers nothing.

    Watch his body shape everytime he gets the ball. He gets in such a spot he can only play sideways or back

    As for getting forward. If he did once we could offer an opinion but he don't


    Before criticising the team maybe the Management need the criticism for not employing specialist players in these roles. To me fullback is a very key position in a successful side.

    You need attacking threat and defensive strength from the same player as well as a great engine


    Why are we putting bandaids in place???
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    To be fair this issue has been exarcebated by our club and suspension.

    Hoffman to his credit Bombs forward all day. So any criticism of him should be down to the quality he offers rather than his efforts at getting forward.

    We did have left back in Leaky who had the ability to do so but chose to let him go and not replace.

    We have then proceeded to plug the hole with Cowburn who although trying hard we can all see how uncomfortable he is at using his left and being on that side of the pitch.

    If it Cowburn it is Jackson who despite being left footed looks even less comfortable in that position. Defensively he does OK but in attack he offers nothing.

    Watch his body shape everytime he gets the ball. He gets in such a spot he can only play sideways or back

    As for getting forward. If he did once we could offer an opinion but he don't


    Before criticising the team maybe the Management need the criticism for not employing specialist players in these roles. To me fullback is a very key position in a successful side.

    You need attacking threat and defensive strength from the same player as well as a great engine


    Why are we putting bandaids in place???
    This!

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    As fans we also fall into the trap of forgetting this is essentially a development league and players we sign, as a poor acheiveing club in a development league are going to need developing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    Not just blood them, but work out whether you actually want to retain them or not, once and for all. Especially if the management team know they don't want to retain any of the players currently in the starting XI
    I think they have already made it pretty clear what their intentions are with these players hence the reason they are not playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazFish35 View Post
    As fans we also fall into the trap of forgetting this is essentially a development league and players we sign, as a poor acheiveing club in a development league are going to need developing.
    It is also Australia's best league.
    What league in the world is not a development league?

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