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    Quote Originally Posted by mother theresa View Post
    problem is- if we continue the poor results, excuses, shinanigans from the jets, we will never sign players again, decent players, will stay away, as in 10 years the club has been in disaray, also watching the game, its very sad, when there was more travelling mariners fans then the apparent squadron fans of 20, and most young ring ins whilst parents sitting elswhere.
    Lastly, ban the mariners band- the gayest thing i have ever seen, are they the ex marching koalas???????
    That is an embarressment for our supporters who cant be othered helping out sometimes.

    Should give the squadron plenty of credit. I could hear them all game from the top western stand.

    They are a small group that tries hard to give us a voice.

    The only noise for the coasties was the stupid brass dildo munchers.

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    Before we hang the gaffer lets have a transparent approach.

    I'd like every player to state 1 thing they like about stubbsys coaching and one thing theyd like to see him introduce to improve team performance.

    Be intresting to see if it matches what we think from the stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    What the **** is Stubbins trying to implement here?
    Consistency.
    seems to be working.
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    Wonder what einy has in store for our boys today

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk View Post
    Before we hang the gaffer lets have a transparent approach.
    No **** that.

    I would just love to know why a side who have been raped by Nix Victree Roar playing a high defensive line play a high defensive line today??

    Considering Nix have speed to burn and we are slow and we got caught out 3-4 times in the first half yet got away with it can someone explain the intelligence of persisting with this ploy in the second half??

    Sooner or later they were gonna spring the offside trap yet we don't adjust and change the tactic with the ridiculous high line and an offside trap.

    Sure enough thats how the first goal comes and the rest is history

    FMD How clueless can you be???

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    GVE played the same tactics against the nix for the same results.

    When they have pace up front and we have slow defenders, why would you do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    No **** that.

    I would just love to know why a side who have been raped by Nix Victree Roar playing a high defensive line play a high defensive line today??

    Considering Nix have speed to burn and we are slow and we got caught out 3-4 times in the first half yet got away with it can someone explain the intelligence of persisting with this ploy in the second half??

    Sooner or later they were gonna spring the offside trap yet we don't adjust and change the tactic with the ridiculous high line and an offside trap.

    Sure enough thats how the first goal comes and the rest is history

    FMD How clueless can you be???
    Calm done on the qmong

    ok i'll try...This comment was aimed at players thoughts. Mine are quite different. Might need to actually take note of some other posts

    I clearly remember telling you last game on how to fix our pathetic defence.

    btw is Stubbins your bro??

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk View Post
    Calm done on the qmong

    ok i'll try...This comment was aimed at players thoughts. Mine are quite different. Might need to actually take note of some other posts

    I clearly remember telling you last game on how to fix our pathetic defence.

    btw is Stubbins your bro??
    What you said it would be a good start.

    Still can not beleive we persist with this tactic of the 4-3-3 shit we play.

    There was one instance i noticed today BK had a goal kick in the first half and took it from the centre of the goal. With no intent other than hoofing it long.

    We had Nev/Carney hugging the right touchline
    We had Hoole/Gallager hugging the left touchline
    We had Griff/Montano in the Centre of the park
    We had a backline of 2 in Kew and Madaschi

    Poor ****ing Peppz and Kanta had to plug the huge hole in the middle.

    With the team having NFI which way the ball was going and **** all support no great surprise we lost the ball.

    Contrast this to Nix long kicks where they plugged 20 players into a 30x20m space and made sure it came into a contest to win the first ball and if they failed they could then try for the second contest/3rd contest etc until it cleared the melee

    Seriously how inept do we have to be to continue to park players constantly on the sidelines in attack and not condensing the field of play??

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    This was written pre season

    Newcastle Jets manager Phil Stubbins believes the club now has the right ingredients to end its drought of not making the A-League finals.
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    12 Sep 2014 - 11:35 AM UPDATED 12 Sep 2014 - 9:37 PM
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    Newcastle Jets is the only existing A-League club that hasn't made the finals at least once in the past four seasons. It is an awful record that makes the challenge for Stubbins obvious. But how does he propose to do it?

    Stubbins told TWG it is about getting the approach right off the field as well as on it, ensuring there is improvement in all of the areas where improvement is always possible and adopting a playing style aimed at keeping the ball on the ground, being creative in attack and stout in defence.

    "It's not just what we do on the pitch, but off the pitch," Stubbins says. "The clubs now at the forefront of the A-League have got themselves very good protocols in place and it's all streamlined into effectively helping the results on the pitch.

    "Our club has done a terrific job in terms of key aspects in that area and we need to raise the bar on the playing front as well. We need to have the right objectives in place if the players are to attain a finals position each year.

    "We've got over 10,000 members who come along every year to watch the team, which is fantastic and shows the region is well behind the Jets."

    Brisbane Roar and Central Coast Mariners are the only two clubs to have made the finals in each of the past four years. Western Sydney Wanderers also has a 100 per cent record of qualifying for the finals during that time, although it has only been in existence for two seasons.

    Melbourne Victory and Adelaide United each made the finals three times and missed once. Sydney FC, Perth Glory and Wellington Phoenix each qualified twice and missed twice.

    Melbourne City, in its former existence as Melbourne Heart, made the finals once and missed three times.

    Gold Coast United qualified once and missed once in its last two years of existence. North Queensland Fury, another now-defunct club, missed in its last year.

    A long injury list has contributed heavily to some disappointing pre-season results for Newcastle, but Stubbins is optimistic the trade-off will be that most - if not all - of those players who have been out will be back fit and well for the start of the season.

    The Jets have never been far away from the top six during the period in question, finishing seventh three times and eighth once, which increases the coach's belief the club can make up the gap by lifting in the right areas.

    "It's all about the one percenters at the end of the day," Stubbins said.

    "If we can do things slightly better right throughout our footy department, everyone working hand in hand and embracing the challenges the club faces - which all clubs face - that would augur well for us to get those extra points over the course of a campaign to make the finals.

    "The A-League is a difficult competition, a strong competition, a vibrant competition, and everybody wants to win it, or certainly to be in the finals, and we're no different.

    "Where we stand today, we've got a bit of work ahead of us, and that's in recognition of the fact we have to get our players back from injury. There's been five or six players out on a constant basis.

    "Getting them back will improve our environment, create more of a competitive edge and help us to prepare between now and the start of the season."

    Asked what style of football he wanted the team to play, Stubbins replied: "We want to play a good, vibrant brand of football. We want to get the ball down on the deck and play.

    "But at the end of the day it's all about results, so I think we need to be slightly pragmatic at times and be able to adjust our game plan according to who we're playing.

    "Marcos Flores is coming into the team and it's been well documented that Marcos is the first number 10 that we've had at the Jets for quite some time. He's a genuine playmaker so we're looking forward to using what he brings to the table in terms of his strengths.

    "And we've got a couple of exciting strikers in (Edson) Montano and Jeronimo (Neumann).

    "Andrew Hoole is back from his shoulder reconstruction, we've brought Jonny Steele over, Billy Celeski has come to the club. Billy’s got a great pedigree and I think the team will rely heavily on him as well as the season moves forward.

    "We'll be a footballing side and hopefully have that edge and that steel that the Jets have always been proud to associate themselves with and which is a mirrored image of the community here.

    "They're all pretty honest and hard-working people in this region and that's how we want the team to be when we don't have the ball. When we do have it, we want to have the invention and creativity that makes for entertaining football.
    How many things in it are actually turned out to be true??

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    These are the same players that lead 1-0 into the 2nd half. if we could park a boring bus we could have had few 1-0 wins by now.

    So nix played to their strengths a got a result albeit through the usual way of us not even trying to defend after the 60th minute.

    Yep our attack is average but our defence is woeful at times. How good are we at throwing away 1-0 leads.

    Waiting for the capitulation every game is as predictable as 5'o'clock Charlie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk View Post
    These are the same players that lead 1-0 into the 2nd half. if we could park a boring bus we could have had few 1-0 wins by now.

    So nix played to their strengths a got a result albeit through the usual way of us not even trying to defend after the 60th minute.

    Yep our attack is average but our defence is woeful at times. How good are we at throwing away 1-0 leads.

    Waiting for the capitulation every game is as predictable as 5'o'clock Charlie.
    To be honest we did not deserve to lead though. Nix butchered it in the first half every time and if it wasn't for Griff being great we never offered much the first 70 mins.


    Even at HT and a 1-0 lead we were not motivated enough to come out and show the desire that said we actually want to push on and win the game.

    Seriously how can a side not even find enthusiasm from the scoreboard being a positive for them???

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    For once I agree with MKFS, as I see it, game after game, Stubbins does not seem to be able to work out the other teams tactics and how to counter act them. In addition when he makes substitutions, they do not seem to change the game, or at least hinder the other team. When other teams make substitutions they invariably lead to game changing events.

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    What seems apparent to me is that Stubbins, from what he says in interviews and from his selections and substitutions, from his inability to motivate his squad, from the obvious lack of fitness in the squad, isn't up to this standard required.

    Options: (in no particular order)
    1 keep him for more of the same
    2 Zane for a second run
    3 find a foreign manager. Could be an assistant somewhere like Gombau was
    4 find someone already in the country with experience eg, Kosminan or Aloisi
    5 find someone in the country without A league experience such as Rudan

    I'd prefer 3 or 5. 2 would be acceptable.

    1 and 4 are crap options really so we will probably go with those

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    I'm becoming more and more certain that stubbins is the issue, along with Bridges. The British mentality just doesn't fly.

    I remember reading Tony Adams' Addicted many years ago, and he talked in length about how he hated when Ian Wright would score before the 70th minute as it meant the opposition had too much time to equalize. This is the exact British mentality I'm certain Stubbins subscribes to. A Gombah or basically any other HAL manager gets a goal ahead and thinks "yes, let's lump the pressure onto them even more". Whereas bridges and stubbins chat on about "consolidating a lead" and counting the minutes until the opposition score a reply (Bridges said this through the week ffs).

    This mentality is clearly not working for our team. Get a coach in who will let the squad (who on paper are better than 4 points from however many games) flourish, rather than this British rot in our club atm.

    Stubbins and Bridges out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    I'm becoming more and more certain that stubbins is the issue, along with Bridges. The British mentality just doesn't fly.

    I remember reading Tony Adams' Addicted many years ago, and he talked in length about how he hated when Ian Wright would score before the 70th minute as it meant the opposition had too much time to equalize. This is the exact British mentality I'm certain Stubbins subscribes to. A Gombah or basically any other HAL manager gets a goal ahead and thinks "yes, let's lump the pressure onto them even more". Whereas bridges and stubbins chat on about "consolidating a lead" and counting the minutes until the opposition score a reply (Bridges said this through the week ffs).

    This mentality is clearly not working for our team. Get a coach in who will let the squad (who on paper are better than 4 points from however many games) flourish, rather than this British rot in our club atm.

    Stubbins and Bridges out.
    I agree stubbins and bridges out but seriously can't see it happening until we get new owners, and I don't mean the FFA because they won't change a thing. The new owners, if/when that happens need to come in with a clear idea what our style/identity should be. Be in Spanish like Adelaide, Dutch, German or Anglo. That will be decided by them with hopefully some input from fans. Until then all I can see is the same words being said by stubbins about working hard etc and similar performances happening.

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    We need somebody to quickly shove a purchase contract under the nose of Mike Ashley while the bloke is still off his face after the victory over Chelsea. Naturally it must contain a clause that says RM and Stubbs can get the F^&K out of here.

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    Kaz Patafta would ne a better option than Stubbins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 380 View Post
    We need somebody to quickly shove a purchase contract under the nose of Mike Ashley while the bloke is still off his face after the victory over Chelsea. Naturally it must contain a clause that says RM and Stubbs can get the F^&K out of here.
    Ashley was never interested in the Jets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by furns View Post
    Ashley was never interested in the Jets.
    Nobody interested in the Jets....Club will not sale, Tinkler will give it away for peanuts or walk away
    Dare to Zlatan

    Originally Posted by Grimario

    He won't make that mistake at Newcastle since our team is full of number 2's.

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    Resigning GVE was ridiculous, then we replacedhim with a 3rd rate coach who was last scene in Adelaide as a second and then trotted off to lower leagues Asia to be be a mediocore coach there. He's not set any league on fire and won't with these tactics and formations.
    Tinks is to blame by not having any vision of selling a good product rather than a shit one.
    In summary
    #tinksout
    #midlbyout
    #stubbinsout
    #shithouseuncommittedplayersout.

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