Insert Name Here aka The Ownership Thread

[lquiquer]

In regards to the Dundee situation: Tinkler wanted $5mil
Dundee said they would clear the $1.8mil worth of debt that is on the club but aren't going to pay him anything on top of that.
It's pretty clear now that when Tinks took the club off the market, it was because Dundee began negotiating with the FFA.

Tinks wants to take the FFA to court - in order to sue them basically because of the licence fee fiasco of a few years ago.
And he wants someone else to take the debt so he doesn't have to pay it.
When FFA assume control, watch him counter with an injunction and court case. This won't end in a week people.

This is just my take on it, after reading the myriad of media reports.

Tinks tactics I get that.... What I don't get is Stubbins move???.... The guy is shooting himself in the foot.... He has now Zero chance to get another gig in the Aleague...... From the start it was doomed. He was cheap choice to start with, he knew Tinks was not putting any money (no marquees), the guy had a shot at it, obviously did not work.....,if it was me the game after Brisbane I would have resigned..... The guy has no pride, he is a big time fraud......don't get it????

[hawk]

lol, license is well and truly in breach

feet first never good

In regards to the Dundee situation: Tinkler wanted $5mil
Dundee said they would clear the $1.8mil worth of debt that is on the club but aren't going to pay him anything on top of that.
It's pretty clear now that when Tinks took the club off the market, it was because Dundee began negotiating with the FFA.

Tinks wants to take the FFA to court - in order to sue them basically because of the licence fee fiasco of a few years ago.
And he wants someone else to take the debt so he doesn't have to pay it.
When FFA assume control, watch him counter with an injunction and court case. This won't end in a week people.

This is just my take on it, after reading the myriad of media reports.

phew, i thought i might have had to check a few sites. wd.

yeah pretty crap deal then, good now

[MFKS]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/28...il-out/?cs=303

Tinkler now wants 5 million from the FFA

[R Ramjet]

FFA should give it to him to **** him off forever. Then they can sell the licence to Dundee united owner and we can start building our club again. Simple just make it happen Gallop

[MFKS]

FFA should give it to him to **** him off forever. Then they can sell the licence to Dundee united owner and we can start building our club again. Simple just make it happen Gallop

It ain't to leave.

He wants his licence fee money back.

His desire to stick around publicly has not altered

[GazFish35]

The licence fee he agreed to pay?
His fault for not doing his own due diligence.
Jump into bed with lowy and you better not jump in quickly. Old frank is no fool.


It'd be like any of us buying a house without a pest and building report or doing any market research, then paying5milluon for an asbestos riddle shithole in a flood zone with white ant damage only worth 50k.

Tinks is trying to play innocent. And trying to play us all for fools

[boz-monaut]

the double effay hold all the cards, Tinks has no rights to the licence after the deadline and will have it taken off him

in the meantime he's trashing the joint and keeping the useless pricks while Stubbins makes sure his enemies and anyone he perceives as a threat is removed

the whole thing is so disfunctional they should just disband and start a new club - there's absolutely nothing worth retaining from this current set up

[plague]

The licence fee he agreed to pay?
His fault for not doing his own due diligence.
Jump into bed with lowy and you better not jump in quickly. Old frank is no fool.


It'd be like any of us buying a house without a pest and building report or doing any market research, then paying5milluon for an asbestos riddle shithole in a flood zone with white ant damage only worth 50k.

Tinks is trying to play innocent. And trying to play us all for fools

I thought his big bugbear with it was that he claimed he was told by Buckley that 'all the other owners' paid the $5million. If that's the case and he was lied to then he does have a legit gripe.
Prob is though no one believes a thing he says ATM and he brought it all on himself.

[GazFish35]

I thought his big bugbear with it was that he claimed he was told by Buckley that 'all the other owners' paid the $5million. If that's the case and he was lied to then he does have a legit gripe.
Prob is though no one believes a thing he says ATM and he brought it all on himself.

So all he needed to do was call the other owners and ask how much they paid.

Due diligence. FFA didn't do it on him, he didn't do it on them.

One more hopeless analogy, it'd be like trusting a used car salesman on a purchase without getting a mechanic to check out a car before parting with your cash.

Tinks paid overs, no doubt.
Who's fault was that? His and only his.

[MFKS]

So all he needed to do was call the other owners and ask how much they paid.

Due diligence. FFA didn't do it on him, he didn't do it on them.

One more hopeless analogy, it'd be like trusting a used car salesman on a purchase without getting a mechanic to check out a car before parting with your cash.

Tinks paid overs, no doubt.
Who's fault was that? His and only his.

No disputing he should have done better due diligence but that has been a massive area of failing for his regime anyway.

Can you actually explain why the FFA actually charge a licence fee anyway?? It ain't like the running of a club is a money making entity.The FFA are responsible for this cost inflated comp which is bleeding owners.

Why exactly does anyone who is footing the bill year to year expected to pay money(licence fee) for the misfortune of being rorted of cash???

[plague]

So all he needed to do was call the other owners and ask how much they paid.

Due diligence. FFA didn't do it on him, he didn't do it on them.

One more hopeless analogy, it'd be like trusting a used car salesman on a purchase without getting a mechanic to check out a car before parting with your cash.

Tinks paid overs, no doubt.
Who's fault was that? His and only his.

Jeez Louise, just reporting what I'd read.
What is this, "international jump down a blokes throat for bringing up a point" day?

You've all been hacked by the Member. Sort your passwords out lads.

[hawk]

The former billionaire maintains he paid a $5 million fee when he acquired the Jets’ A-League licence and replaced Con Constantine as owner in September 2010.

The Newcastle Herald reported in May 2012 that Tinkler had paid FFA a $3.5 million acquisition fee, not $5 million, when he took the controls from Constantine.

‘‘Is there also a deadline for me getting my $5 million back from the FFA. Is that a deadline too?’’ Tinkler told the World Game.

yep theres a deadline and you get nothing

[GazFish35]

Can you actually explain why the FFA actually charge a licence fee anyway?? It ain't like the running of a club is a money making entity.The FFA are responsible for this cost inflated comp which is bleeding owners.

To make some money off the owners.
Bit like the way Westfield make their money of their tenants.

The whole thing is about money

[GazFish35]

Jeez Louise, just reporting what I'd read.
What is this, "international jump down a blokes throat for bringing up a point" day?

You've all been hacked by the Member. Sort your passwords out lads.

Ha! You're touchy tonight

[plague]

Ha! You're touchy tonight

Nah, just bored.
We haven't had anyone sacked for hours now.

[Grimario]

Nah, just bored.
We haven't had anyone sacked for hours now.

I keep refreshing in twitter to see what the latest is. Sadly, no new news.

[MFKS]

To make some money off the owners.
Bit like the way Westfield make their money of their tenants.

The whole thing is about money

Ridiculous level of greed then.

Until the competition is profitable then the FFA have no right to demand money from anyone covering the cost of the comp.

They are responsible for agreeing to the absurdly high level of player wages with the PFA that sees so much money wasted that they game can not afford or justify.

[Wilso8948]

Ridiculous level of greed then.

Until the competition is profitable then the FFA have no right to demand money from anyone covering the cost of the comp.

They are responsible for agreeing to the absurdly high level of player wages with the PFA that sees so much money wasted that they game can not afford or justify.

I finally get it.. You're Tinkler!

[hausmann]

Can you actually explain why the FFA actually charge a licence fee anyway??

a. because they needed the money. The FFA were far from flush with cash at the time and they were trying to get money wherever they could.
b. because it is a closed shop and with most privileges there is a price to entry.
c. because some of the clubs are starting to break even and turn a profit. There will be profit to be made for the well run clubs in the future - through general operations, trading players, Asian competition windfalls.

[Jeterpool]

I listened to the two interviews from Zane yesterday as well as Tinkler's interview with Craig Hamilton, and the following are a few of my thoughts from these:

TINKLER - Tinkler said that there's no bigger fan than himself. If he was talking about size, that may be the case, but in terms of support I don't know how he can claim that. He's trying to put himself above all others. He also avoided the question, and an opportunity, to appeal to the fans. He spoke instead about how we should feel and what he's thinking as a fan. There was a lot of business speak but not a lot of substance behind it. What does the new organisation look like to him? What is the culture he is trying to create? What are the goals he's set for the team following this review? He may have won more hearts and minds if he had said we are doing this because we want a culture where admin do xyz, players do xyz. etc. He talked about what is wrong with the club - we know that. we can see it. Tell us what your vision is.

I also notice he seemed to lose his cool a bit when probed or answering some more difficult questions (and the questions weren't hard hitting in my opinion).

ZANE - I thought he was very level and retained a level of integrity. He went into some detail and spoke well about pretty much everyone. he said enough so that you could inference what he didn't want to say. He focused on facts and gave a greater light about the lead up to this. He's clearly on the players side, as we knew, but was still distancing himself from direct involvement in their actions.

Also, Furns well done. I heard a part of your interview and haven't listened to it back - hope I'll have a chance today.