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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairgo View Post
    http://www.a-league.com.au/about/sal...n13oyz89nari1m
    Unless the rules have changed this year it states 3 players required under the age of 20 not 23 which I believe at this stage we have nil.
    No you are right. Don't know what I was thinking with 23.

    That being the case, the 6 remaining players to be recruited will be

    3 x Visa players
    3 x u20 players (one which must be a goalkeeper)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    I see great potential here not loss of discussion matter

    We can then start argueing about how we were stupid enough to sign so and so for 140k and he ain't half the player club x signed so and so for.

    Biggest loser for this will be the players when the fans know someone is on 140k a year and playing like a buseted arse and start getting on their back
    140? Try close to triple that

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    Except knowing someone's wage isn't anyone's business.
    These people are idiots.

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    So this is FFA's answer to being more "transparent", disclosing A League contracted player's wages.
    Hope the players with the PFA kick up a stink about this, really what right have FFA to publicly disclose what players are earning?

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    agreed. how does knowing their wage increase transparency? surely the only person concerned about transparency should be the FFA (in this regard).

    and if they want to do it, why not publish the aggregated wages of the squad as a single amount per club? that way no individual player is identified.

    I don't normally get on the privacy wagon, but this just seems like a gross invasion of privacy.

    I can see a stronger argument for publishing the salaries of the FFA senior execs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belchardo View Post
    agreed. how does knowing their wage increase transparency? surely the only person concerned about transparency should be the FFA (in this regard).

    and if they want to do it, why not publish the aggregated wages of the squad as a single amount per club? that way no individual player is identified.

    I don't normally get on the privacy wagon, but this just seems like a gross invasion of privacy.

    I can see a stronger argument for publishing the salaries of the FFA senior execs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belchardo View Post
    agreed. how does knowing their wage increase transparency? surely the only person concerned about transparency should be the FFA (in this regard).

    and if they want to do it, why not publish the aggregated wages of the squad as a single amount per club? that way no individual player is identified.

    I don't normally get on the privacy wagon, but this just seems like a gross invasion of privacy.

    I can see a stronger argument for publishing the salaries of the FFA senior execs.
    ****ing great idea.

    Publish the FFA top brass wages too.

    Brilliant

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    I see great potential here not loss of discussion matter

    We can then start argueing about how we were stupid enough to sign so and so for 140k and he ain't half the player club x signed so and so for.

    Biggest loser for this will be the players when the fans know someone is on 140k a year and playing like a buseted arse and start getting on their back
    Can see the logic behind this but then again when Heskey was on $700k plus as reported in the media, I don't recall fans "getting on his back"...sure he didn't play like a "busted arse" but he sure as hell wasn't worth $700k.
    Fans are fickle and play favourites, can just see an "unpopular" player being targeted or made a scapegoat if he is reportedly on a decent wage and underperforming. Disclose what each squad has spent and Marquees (which usually are anyway) but not each individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopper2 View Post
    Can see the logic behind this but then again when Heskey was on $700k plus as reported in the media, I don't recall fans "getting on his back"...sure he didn't play like a "busted arse" but he sure as hell wasn't worth $700k.
    Fans are fickle and play favourites, can just see an "unpopular" player being targeted or made a scapegoat if he is reportedly on a decent wage and underperforming. Disclose what each squad has spent and Marquees (which usually are anyway) but not each individual.
    This whole thing was created to expose BK and what he earns while being on the bench. In that regard, I'm all for it. BK out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    Except knowing someone's wage isn't anyone's business.
    These people are idiots.
    The Wage Data for all MLS players is available to the public. No reason why the A-league shouldn't make it's wages data available as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    The Wage Data for all MLS players is available to the public. No reason why the A-league shouldn't make it's wages data available as well.
    But that appears to be more from an American driven desire to have that information available. The NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL do it so it's something that is accepted in that country's sporting competitions.

    The FFA reason for pursuing this (a number of salary cap scandals in Australian Sport) seems convenient to me. If player contracts are submitted to the FFA anyway, how will publicising the wages of the teams decrease the likelihood that a club won't cheat the salary cap? Would doing this have assisted auditors to identify or even prevent the Perth Glory salary cap breach in the season before last?

    I struggle to accept this. There's something else at play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    The Wage Data for all MLS players is available to the public. No reason why the A-league shouldn't make it's wages data available as well.
    There is no reason to do it either.
    It solves nothing.

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    FFA just want the fans to do their jobs. With all the nerdz out there who will do da maths and shit it will save the hassle

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    Its so we can get it out in the open that Perf are WAY over the cap next year.

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    I look forward to telling our rubbish blokes that they are on a shit salary and don't deserve it, also that their career will be over by the time they're 35 and they'll be down at Centrelink

    also, it's hilarious when you find out how much other teams pay for their shitcunce — remember how much we all laughed when Zdonkey was revealed to be on $200k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    Same reason everyone was all over social media telling the world that Hodor died on Game of Thrones today.

    They all just wanna be first.
    Awesome, thanks for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Awesome, thanks for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    But that appears to be more from an American driven desire to have that information available. The NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL do it so it's something that is accepted in that country's sporting competitions.

    The FFA reason for pursuing this (a number of salary cap scandals in Australian Sport) seems convenient to me. If player contracts are submitted to the FFA anyway, how will publicising the wages of the teams decrease the likelihood that a club won't cheat the salary cap? Would doing this have assisted auditors to identify or even prevent the Perth Glory salary cap breach in the season before last?

    I struggle to accept this. There's something else at play.
    It just a degree of transparency and getting on the front foot to show the public they have their house in order.

    The current situation leaves fans scratching their heads as they don't know.

    By giving the info to the public it gives the fans cinfidence all is above board and then puts the onus squarely on the clubs to comply.

    Look at the shitfight at Parramatta in the NRL. The club and it's management are culpable. Just as the Storm were when they had their problem.

    By putting it squarely out in the public domain there is no ifs or buts about it if the club cheats.

    At the moment it is a grey area as many other clubs are suspected of doing it and getting away with it.

    So there is an element of sympathy to the club and blame to the governing body for not uncovering other issues.

    This transparency way basically washes the FFAs hands of it and allows them to wash their hands of any responsibility for it and forces the blame 100% on the club.

    It also means the clubs are going to have to legitimately try to rort it. So when they do the book can be thrown at them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball Enthusiast View Post
    This whole thing was created to expose BK and what he earns while being on the bench. In that regard, I'm all for it. BK out.

    See this sort of a childish attitude of a response is why I'm against it....targeting and singling out individual players.
    Miller prefered Birraz over BK this season, so what. Towards the end of the season Vukovic (probably the highest paid keeper in the HAL) fell out of favour and was on the bench.
    Players lose form whether it's injury related or personal issues. So we get on their backs because we think they aren't worthy of their salary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Awesome, thanks for that.
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    And I don't argue with FR. The bloke is a legend and deserves great praise for his contributions to football in the Hunter.
    He is also the second best poster on the entire Foz behind you
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