16/17 HAL Round 26 | Jets v Gypos - F3 Derby #41 | Sun 9th Apr 2017 5:30pm

[MFKS]

Don't you know omelette, players are either Messi & CR7, or they're rubbish. There's no in between.

I always said Miller took the money ball approach and I have no doubt he would have had this team higher than last.

7th or 10th
Still the same

[Macca]

See the funny thing is that Miller should have been sacked not for his little blow up with Tranny and the Chinese Lightsalesman

What he should really have been sacked for is his recruitment this season

Any progress we could have made was squandered by his worldwide contacts coming up with shit like a journeyman non league standard Pom playing in Scandanavia, a bloke who has never played for Finland and a few Aussie HAL rejects in Clut Hoole Nabbout

He basically sewed the seeds of our spoon right there with his shitful efforts in the transfer market

All the shit signings that were responsible for us playing the most exciting football we have in years? Yeah all rubbish hey.

[Bon]

7th or 10th
Still the same

No. It's definitely not.

[MFKS]

All the shit signings that were responsible for us playing the most exciting football we have in years? Yeah all rubbish hey.

And all go missing when the pressure is on

No consistency

No ability to deliver under expectation


Their weaknesses are the main reason we have fallen in a hole

Because they can not back it up week in week out

[Tommyjet]

7th or 10th
Still the same

This statement says it all really. Why bother arguing with this nutter

[Wilso8948]

This statement says it all really. Why bother arguing with this nutter

Why? He's correct. 7th or 10th doesn't mean shit provided there's only a few points between them. We celebrate a successful season when we finish 7th. Wtf? Keep accepting mediocrity.

[lquiquer]

This statement says it all really. Why bother arguing with this nutter

Considering there is no relegation I tend to agree with the Member......

[Tommyjet]

Why? He's correct. 7th or 10th doesn't mean shit provided there's only a few points between them. We celebrate a successful season when we finish 7th. Wtf? Keep accepting mediocrity.

Finishing above the f#@king gypos would be the start of the reasons why 7th is better than 10th or does that not seem to matter. Where did i say it would mean a successful season?

[Wilso8948]

Finishing above the f#@king gypos would be the start of the reasons why 7th is better than 10th or does that not seem to matter. Where did i say it would mean a successful season?

Where did I say you did? I'm saying there's a general feeling Miller was successful leading us to an almighty 7th.. wow. 7th-10th is a fail in my book.

[Macca]

Where have people said Miller had a successful season?

Big difference between a successful season and a season that leaves people feeling hopeful for the future

[Frodo]

Finishing above the f#@king gypos would be the start of the reasons why 7th is better than 10th or does that not seem to matter. Where did i say it would mean a successful season?

Tommy has it here.

There are 4 positions on the ladder.

First
Finals
Not 10th
Wooden Spoon

However finishing above the Gypos should be the bare minimum for any coach here. If you finish below them you should hang your head in shame.

I think Miller had a better shot at making the 6 than Jones did considering he actually picked the squad.

The team was obviously getting along well during pre-season, as the results from the start of the season prove. Once other teams worked out the initial plan it all turned to poo. Miller can't be blamed for that. Only Jonesy-boy can. We don't know if Miller had a plan B so he gets to ride off into the sunset looking like he knew what he was doing. His reputation would only have been enhanced during his time here. Just let that sink in Member....


Although, yet again, who cares about Miller know. He's gone, we have to move on.

[Tommyjet]

Why? He's correct. 7th or 10th doesn't mean shit provided there's only a few points between them. We celebrate a successful season when we finish 7th. Wtf? Keep accepting mediocrity.

Finishing above the f#@king gypos would be the start of the reasons why 7th is better than 10th or does that not seem to matter. Where did i say it would mean a successful season?

[StannyCFCJET]

Tommy has it here.

There are 4 positions on the ladder.

First
Finals
Not 10th
Wooden Spoon

However finishing above the Gypos should be the bare minimum for any coach here. If you finish below them you should hang your head in shame.

I think Miller had a better shot at making the 6 than Jones did considering he actually picked the squad.

The team was obviously getting along well during pre-season, as the results from the start of the season prove. Once other teams worked out the initial plan it all turned to poo. Miller can't be blamed for that. Only Jonesy-boy can. We don't know if Miller had a plan B so he gets to ride off into the sunset looking like he knew what he was doing. His reputation would only have been enhanced during his time here. Just let that sink in Member....


Although, yet again, who cares about Miller know. He's gone, we have to move on.

Finishing in the Six should be the bare minimum. **** the gypos but it sounds like were basing our whole club aim off finishing above the Gypos much like the Arsenal Spurs crap. Does anyone remember who finished above us in the table the year we won the GF? Oh thats right the Gypos. If we had to lose to the Gypos every now and then but we made finals more often and had a real go at winning the GF (With the odd success) then I'd happily bite my hand off and take that deal.

[MFKS]

There is really only one position that matters

First

The rest are just losers

2nd 6th 7th 10th

Doesn't really matter

Still won **** all

[turbojetfireV8]

being satisfied with a coach who has led us to a wooden spoon isn't embracing mediocrity, seriously?? just because Jones is a local and Stubbins wasn't doesn't mean there is any reason for misguided loyalties here, Jones has taken a reasonably performing group of players starting to believe in themselves and playing some decent football, that could have seen them actually a chance of snatching a finals berth, and turned them into a dire group of lacklustre can't attack can't defend easybeats in the past few months, most of it through his mismanagement of selections gamedays, to the point the players stopped believing - if that isn't the sign of a coach who has failed what is the benchmark???

[StannyCFCJET]

being satisfied with a coach who has led us to a wooden spoon isn't embracing mediocrity, seriously?? just because Jones is a local and Stubbins wasn't doesn't mean there is any reason for misguided loyalties here, Jones has taken a reasonably performing group of players starting to believe in themselves and playing some decent football, that could have seen them actually a chance of snatching a finals berth, and turned them into a dire group of lacklustre can't attack can't defend easybeats in the past few months, most of it through his mismanagement of selections gamedays, to the point the players stopped believing - if that isn't the sign of a coach who has failed what is the benchmark???

We cant forget these players are weak minded ****s

[The Dunster]

being satisfied with a coach who has led us to a wooden spoon isn't embracing mediocrity, seriously?? just because Jones is a local and Stubbins wasn't doesn't mean there is any reason for misguided loyalties here, Jones has taken a reasonably performing group of players starting to believe in themselves and playing some decent football, that could have seen them actually a chance of snatching a finals berth, and turned them into a dire group of lacklustre can't attack can't defend easybeats in the past few months, most of it through his mismanagement of selections gamedays, to the point the players stopped believing - if that isn't the sign of a coach who has failed what is the benchmark???

The players have been shit for most of the season. Don't sugarcoat their performances. The mistakes that lead to goals against us and the misses we have had in front of goal are individual errors. That's got little to do with the coaching staff at this level. The players are over paid, lazy, and rate themselves far too highly - having achieved nothing in the game to warrant their high opinions of themselves.
They hang out at coffee shops like they play in the EPL when the reality is they only won 5 games all season in the lowly A-league.
I mean look at Hoole - and he did ok in parts of the season. This is his first year of actually scoring some goals and he thinks that makes him hot property on the European market ?
The players are completely deluded as are many of the fans if they think this group of players is anything more than the ones other clubs rejected.

This is not an endorsement of Jones either - far from it. But the players are terrible. Nabbout was ok until he caught the eye of opposition managers and they soon worked out a way to nullify his games - and it's been successful in that he's done pretty much nothing of note for the last half of the season.
The previous manager didn't even leave us with a known goal scorer to lead the attack. Instead, he actually got rid of our leading goal scorer for someone that creates far less chances and indeed goals.

[MFKS]

The players have been shit for most of the season. Don't sugarcoat their performances. The mistakes that lead to goals against us and the misses we have had in front of goal are individual errors. That's got little to do with the coaching staff at this level. The players are over paid, lazy, and rate themselves far too highly - having achieved nothing in the game to warrant their high opinions of themselves.
They hang out at coffee shops like they play in the EPL when the reality is they only won 5 games all season in the lowly A-league.
I mean look at Hoole - and he did ok in parts of the season. This is his first year of actually scoring some goals and he thinks that makes him hot property on the European market ?
The players are completely deluded as are many of the fans if they think this group of players is anything more than the ones other clubs rejected.

This is not an endorsement of Jones either - far from it. But the players are terrible. Nabbout was ok until he caught the eye of opposition managers and they soon worked out a way to nullify his games - and it's been successful in that he's done pretty much nothing of note for the last half of the season.
The previous manager didn't even leave us with a known goal scorer to lead the attack. Instead, he actually got rid of our leading goal scorer for someone that creates far less chances and indeed goals.

Truth Bombs everywhere there

[Frodo]

The players have been shit for most of the season. Don't sugarcoat their performances. The mistakes that lead to goals against us and the misses we have had in front of goal are individual errors. That's got little to do with the coaching staff at this level. The players are over paid, lazy, and rate themselves far too highly - having achieved nothing in the game to warrant their high opinions of themselves.
They hang out at coffee shops like they play in the EPL when the reality is they only won 5 games all season in the lowly A-league.
I mean look at Hoole - and he did ok in parts of the season. This is his first year of actually scoring some goals and he thinks that makes him hot property on the European market ?
The players are completely deluded as are many of the fans if they think this group of players is anything more than the ones other clubs rejected.

This is not an endorsement of Jones either - far from it. But the players are terrible. Nabbout was ok until he caught the eye of opposition managers and they soon worked out a way to nullify his games - and it's been successful in that he's done pretty much nothing of note for the last half of the season.
The previous manager didn't even leave us with a known goal scorer to lead the attack. Instead, he actually got rid of our leading goal scorer for someone that creates far less chances and indeed goals.

Last year everyone slagged off Triff for being slow and lazy. He scored 9 goals and left. I liked Triff but he was never really loved by the majority of this forum.

Kokko comes in to play under Miller. Miller gets the sack, Kokko gets injured in pre season. By the time he comes back in we are in decent form so he struggles a bit for game time. He gets punched in the face by one of McKinnas mates and then we turn to crap as a team and didn't score for the last 6 games or something. He might not be good enough but he never got anywhere near a decent shot here.

He was in a new league and never got a decent run of games. He probably played with the same midfield players once or twice throughout the system. I'm not saying to resign him but in no way can you put much of the blame on our season on him alone. He would be middle of the pack when it comes to blame for this team this year.

[StannyCFCJET]

Last year everyone slagged off Triff for being slow and lazy. He scored 9 goals and left. I liked Triff but he was never really loved by the majority of this forum.

Kokko comes in to play under Miller. Miller gets the sack, Kokko gets injured in pre season. By the time he comes back in we are in decent form so he struggles a bit for game time. He gets punched in the face by one of McKinnas mates and then we turn to crap as a team and didn't score for the last 6 games or something. He might not be good enough but he never got anywhere near a decent shot here.

He was in a new league and never got a decent run of games. He probably played with the same midfield players once or twice throughout the system. I'm not saying to resign him but in no way can you put much of the blame on our season on him alone. He would be middle of the pack when it comes to blame for this team this year.

Also with Kokko would you be able to perform when your manager says to the press were open to offers for you? Rookie coach mistake 10/10