Originally Posted by The Dunster
Yeah he was no Jones was he. Kind of disappointed the season ended when it did because I reckon our winless/goalless streak could have stretched another 10 games.
It's a wonder the Jones fanboys can poke the head back up again considering where your credibility on calling anything on what constitutes decent football. Blind Freddy could tell you Jones was going to be an unmitigated disaster
I don't give a shit about Miller's departure... where are you pulling that from? You are just speculating about things so I threw another IF into the mix...
And sure, we have had walkover pre-seasons before... against Weston Bears, 5 different NPL sides, an NPL select side, the Jets youth. I can't recall a pre-season where we went on an undefeated tour overseas and scored 6 unanswered goals against two A-league clubs.
The 4 goals in 5 appearances was LAST pre-season, under Miller. What a difference a year made there and then the rest is history because of the great debacle that was Miller's departure and the Jets ever present drama.
PS how much of our good season form was driven by everything Miller had set up in pre-season and Jones is actually the extremely shit coach who trained and drilled that out of them?
We spent the cap and used concessions
You want to fix the squad.
Well first thing is you look at all the performances through the season under Jones, and Jones's statements to the press about who was and wasn't performing for him.
Then you laugh your arse off at the rantings of a madman.
Then you employ a decent coach on a 3 year deal and let them decide how they should shape the squad over 2 seasons. Not p*ss away even more money in the hope of a 1 season fix.
Guys like Kokko and Brown could likely be transferred back to Scandinavia. But I would like to see how a decent coach with an actual game plan can use them first.
it wont come out of the cap if both parties agree to terminate the contract
ie: the player finds himself another club and the club agree to release him
anyone who doesn't want to stay would be on the phone to their agent saying find me a better deal elsewhere
anyone whos not wanted should be told tell your agent to find you another club youre not needed
It doesn't really matter.
What I and Dunster are calling for is some ruthless decision making from the club.
Instead of letting these over paid blokes suck the mango going through the motions shake things up and send them packing
Send a message to the rest of the squad left behind that performance gets them a new deal, that performance gets them good future wages.
Not this BS where mediocrity and failure to deliver is accepted as we pick up another spoon and these players could not give a **** about it
So why is Jones the only one copping the blame for our failings??
This is the bit that gets me.
How so many people negate these players of the responsibility for failure.
Jones may well have been the 2nd worst coach ever behind Muppet but those players screwed us all over
They shafted their manager but more importantly they shafted their fans.
Getting beaten is something we are use to
But those ****s just gave up the last 6 weeks of the season
No excuses for that shit ever
Didn't Jones play Sydney at home, with 5 at the back.. If that wasn't negative play aimed at mitigating damage, then I don't know what is.. I still remember the smug look on Arnie's face when he was chuckling about Jones having lost it before a ball was even kicked..
This..
The exact same tactic of the 3-4-3 that is actually working quite well and probably where the future is heading permanently??
Like Mourinho is being lauded as a genius for disarming Chelsea with it the other day
It was not 5 at the back Jones played
It was 3-4-3 just we were inept at playing it
You're kidding? We cannot defend with 3. They are not good enough even with 5. Jones is a clown, your his thicker bro
I think you are reading somewhere else. Jones is copping the brunt but people are calling players out everywhere. Boogaard is overpaid and slow, Mullen is shit, our entire midfield went missing, our attackers were non existent for half a season.
What is solely on Jones though is not changing anything.
Mullen shit at right back? Cool, let's continue with him there ad nauseam whilst your normal right back and an Olyroo right back are out of position or not in the squad.
Hoole and Nabbout forget how to play football? Cool, let's continue playing them there and not see if Brymora or Haliti can change things up.
Strikers not scoring and barely ever getting the ball? Shit, let's continue doing that instead of looking at how we are set up and maybe changing things so they get a touch every now and then in meaningful positions.
That's all on Jones.
Using a 10 at the back formation to defend him..
If your players are inept at playing a certain system, why play it?
They are professional players allegedly
If they can't play a 3-4-3 then they ought to give up
But that about right
Most of them need to give up
I do like your analysis on this that Jones didn't change anything
He constantly changed the team.
That probably part of his downfall.
Every week it altered
Bymora isn't good enough anyway but other thing is he been injured recently as well
Cowburn isn't the Olyroo fullback.He actually a CM
Getting selected to a squad means **** all really. He don't get selected for us as he ain't that ****ing good .
If you want to blame anyone for Jones selecting players everywhere
Try blaming the clown before him who accumulated a squad of players not good enough to be able to cement down a starting spot at a club as bad as ours and either no depth in certain spots or 6 options all equally as shit
Ding Ding Ding Logic and facts always wins. Agree 100% Grim
Jones didnt change the things Grim mentioned. And Brymora not good enough??? Do you watch him at training?? if so then ok ill defer to your judgement but if its off that 10mins away vs glory then WTF. Also I think Gombau knows a hell of alot more about football then Mark Jones and if he thinks a player has potential and what not then Id be backing his views over someone who watched Mullen get rinsed almost every week and didn't change it.
Bymora I have seen more than enough of in the Yoof teams at the Jets.
I have seen him playing the last 3-5 years
He isn't anything other than a kid with good engines.
I baffled how he got a pro deal but that probably more a reflection on the rest of the EJ
I really couldn't give a **** if some **** called a Jets player into the Olyroo camp. That makes **** all difference to whether they are any good
FFS Blokes like Hoffman and Hoole made it once ouon a time
Also you remember last time we made the Olympics someone selected Kristian Sarkies Trent McLenahan and Mark Bridge in the squad.
**** has NFI if he thinks those blokes are competent footballers
Same clown took Raheem Sterling to Sydney and then said on closer look he is shit have him back.
Same bloke has coached the all conquering Smurfs side
So just because you get selected in a camp for an under age NT doesn't mean you have ****ing made it.
It means **** all
Using a 10 at the back formation to defend him..mfks fighting a 1 man battle against all common sense.
Fighting a 1 man battle keeping you amused more like it
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