Can confirm the Christian leagues are entirely outside FFA's influence. Not much FFA can do about them. There has been talk about them moving to being under NNSWF banner, but with this, I doubt it will happen now.
As for local clubs, St Johns Anglican, the newest club to Newcastle football, may have to change our name.
Middleby Gone
Lawrie Out
good, this is straya.
there is no place for religion here.
Originally Posted by snake
You're making a hell of a lot of assumptions.
Yeah, would be more of an issue in your Sydneys, Melbournes, etc.
Not sure how much of an effect it would have in Newcastle. Most clubs update their logos every 10 or so years anyway, so you'd imagine the likes of Azzuri (NBN) and Magic wouldn't have the worlds biggest cry if it happened. If Olympic were forced to change their name they'd probably have a fit. I have no idea how Hamilton Azzuri is setup and run but I imagine they'd eventually come to terms with changing their name (the only thing I know about that club is I've seen two of their teams, neither of which seemed to have Italian players in it from my incredibly quick scout - great logo though). Simba, particularly because they're new, I'm sure wouldn't care too much.
It'd probably just be your clubs in West Sydney that are running around in red/white checks and the likes that are going to cause the biggest stinks.
If a bunch of people want to start a football club and they want some reference to something that they share in common I can't see how if that commonality is ethnicity that incorporating it into their club name or badge or colours doesn't anything to alienate people from the sport..... By not letting new clubs acknowledge a shared heritage amongst its founders actually aliens them for the the wider game.
A group of recently arrived afghan refugees seek to start a football club in order to help strengthen their community by coming together to support each other and start the process of assimilating into Australian sporting community, one thing they wish to include in their name/logo is the snow leopard and play in black and white.
FFA says NO, you must assimilate under our terms, we want to be inclusive, so you aren't welcome to celebrate your heritage.
How he **** does that make sense?
Football is the world game, except in Australia where you must pretend we are the same, instead of celebrating the fact we are all different.
There is a very high probability they will be doing that anyway for next season so it wont be an issue for them.
This
Care to elaborate? Are you involved with us, or have you just head that around the zone meetings?
Middleby Gone
Lawrie Out
I had a whole thing typed about the NSL and the problem with clubs founded with Ethnic roots but it all got to involved and complex, let's just say, you aren't wrong, but you're not right either. it is a fine line between the idea and the reality.
If these ethnic teams are playing park football what's the problem???
They ain't in the national league like they once we're
Who comes up with this dumb shit??
The clowns at FFA need to mend some fences with the ethnicity not further marginalised them
Dumb ****s
Be cool if the introduced something like this in England.....................No more ****ing Arsenal.
I know.
My argument is flawed when you start asking clubs to be finacially viable on a national league perspective..... thats when the economic impact of having a club based on small minority of the community comes into play.
I'm just not a fan of the FFA mandating that clubs must be homogenised.
If South Melbourne can be finacially viable on a national stage by only appealing to the greek community, then good luck to them, Sydey United likewise. If us Anglo's want homoginsed clubs in order to throw our finacial support behind football, then we should do what all the ethnic communities have done and support a ****ing football club.
If ethnic based clubs cant be finacially viable then they have to open their doors and be more welcoming, or they fall from grace, but the fall from grace must be from their own doing, not from the governing body telling them they can no longer be in the top league because of the ethnicity of the comunity they respresent.
A scenario
In thirty years time the jets fold.
Magic win promotion to the top league ion the country.
they can support themselves through the hard work and financial backing of the newcastle macedonian community
good luck to them.
if they cant support themselves, theyre relgated.
they are replaced by a club who can support themselves
why must the FFA mandate club logos etc?
simply set a series of suggested "best practice" guidlines.
if you want yoyur club to be finacially viable, its best practice to be imaged in a manner that is inclusive of all.
if you want to image yourselves as representing one section of the community...... you might struggle to be finacially viable.
BUT LEAVE THE FRIGGIN DECISION TO THE CLUBS
world is spinning in opposite direction! MFKS posts something i agree with!
Someone's just created themselves some work IMO
I don't care about viability at all, and I agree FFA shouldn't mandate anything regarding any club. However the focus should be on inclusiveness. The old clubs built on the backs of Immigrants became to inclusive and stopped themselves from growing and joining with the greater community (from my experiences in the NSL anyway). If these clubs had been more forward thinking and focus less on holding onto the pasts they left behind, thought more of the future that could be, we'd never have had to dismantle the NSL and the A-League would never have happened.
This isn't the first time that old clubs have been asked to remove their ethnic attachments from the clubs, after all Sydney and Melbourne Croatia, South Melbourne Hellas etal had to change their names to assimilate with Aus culture more in the 90's.
It sounds similar to something that the AFL tried to implement a number of years ago whereby Community Clubs were actively encouraged to follow the kit design and moniker of one of the AFL clubs. Some clubs took it up, but there was such a backlash from the "old boys" that it was quickly abandoned.
they deregistered 2 yrs ago.
it costs $100 for rego which include ins. this means the asshole ffa and northern have to skulk for funds from exhobitant junior fees.
Johns St Anglers
Relax I will be home in 3 weeks and the Sth American air will not be filling my head with sanity
No more Spurs either.Be cool if the introduced something like this in England.....................No more ****ing Arsenal.
Why has the club insisted on following this 10 years bullshit this season. We were not formed at the start of the a-league, we formed before it! Farken hell it pisses me off
Go jetties
to be fair to the club, they haven't said anywhere that it is the clubs 10 year anniversary, only that it is the JETS 10 year anniversary.
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