Originally Posted by hausmann
Heres the problem though. You want us to not think about being the little guy but then pigeonhole us as the little guy David.
Personally I hate teams that love being the underdog/little guy etc. Be the best or **** off. Best advice.
Also, the Barca thing is a bit of a stretch, you know, General Franco and all that.
Having said that though. The more blokes like you involved the better we'll be. Hope the team gives you some hope this year.
Oh and i just reackon we are turning into Perth 2.0
Buying up everyones rejects then wondering why the hell we arent awesome.
Not looking forward to that one bit.
as for top 6?
jeez louise, i didnt realise they legalised pot already. some of you lot need to ease up.
we're ****ing doomed.
again.
**** Montano, get Taggz back.
Use the foreign spot for a decent quality DM.
I don't hold much hope for this season without that.
Middleby Gone
Lawrie Out
depends what patch you talk about because in 14.3, Brillante had significantly higher CA than Goodwin and Neville and equal CA to Chapman. On FM14.3 Goodwin and Birraz have equal potential but this is the variable -7, so it will be change save to save within a range of 110 and 140. Neville's was low in that range in FM14. He (Brillante) will be better than them on FM15 and will have higher potential. All have fixed potential on FM15.
But even on FM14, at the time of the data lock, Brillante hadn't reached his best form so I hadn't seen what he was fully capable of
The reprisals against Barcelona came because it was a symbol of the people and their independence from the beginning. There would have been no "Franco and all that" if the people didn't use it as a focal point for their culture. I'm not saying we are exactly like that, but I am saying we have a unique independent spirit in a country where everything begins and ends with capital cities. I'm not saying we should be the the "Barcelona of the A-league". I'm saying we should celebrate our uniqueness the way they do because they have done it better than anyone. The fact is that people on here do when they talk about Reg Date, Kb United etc. and buy the E&C strip. People get it.
Also I'm not saying we should not think about being the little guy. Exact opposite. We are the little guy, as a city. But we can have a big club in a small city. Mariners will always be a small club. We don't have to be. Look at Green Bay packers. Huge, successful club in a very small population. What I said is we need to be outward looking. We at least need to be a lot of people's second favourite team so that multi national sponsors see that sponsoring us will get some traction in big markets. We need to look beyond the hunter because it's obvious that our big industries don't give a shit about sponsoring football teams. We don't produce anything here that needs a commercial profile, which is part of the struggle I'm talking about. Sydney won't give us our own container port because they say that their statistics show that most containers don't travel more than 40kms from the port. Exactly, that's why we need one. So that we can have our own industries again. Everything is sucked into Sydney. We used to produce our own beer, bread, textiles etc. Arnotts originally came from Morpeth. All those big commercial industries are gone. Yet even new small ones like Bluetongue won't sponsor local clubs. Nib send a lot of their sponsorship money elsewhere. And I think the main reason for this is because our clubs, knights and jets, have always settled for mediocrity and show themselves to be unprofessional and untrustworthy. This is why strong leadership is necessary.
You might say you hate the underdog story but it is a universal theme that people find attractive in all forms of theatre. I hate it when it is used as cliche in the media, an excuse for mediocrity or flash in the pan success. In the A-league, with its salary cap, there is no excuse for assembling an underdog squad. But that is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about living it. being a small city that has a big culture, a big club and that is the best club in the league but that still feels the humility of the small city it represents. David wasn't just the underdog, he became probably the greatest ruler of that small nation.
Last edited by hausmann; 08-10-2014 at 09:34 AM.
Yep I daresay his mother club would have loaned him out to free up their wage bill. If we want to terminate his contract, I daresay we'd have to pay his wages out at the very least and that would still count towards our cap.I reckon it's a contract and we have to abide by it unless we have included a "can **** him off if we want to bring someone else in" clause or all parties accept the loans mutual termination.
Not to mention the costs involved to get his life setup here in Australia etc. It is a pretty big cost to get visa players out here, so it would be pretty silly to terminate his contract.
If we're terminating anyones contract in the club, there's a certain local who hasn't been up to scratch for some time that I can think of.
OK
Nah man, we need to have 3 keepers on the books.
Maybe big companies don't get value for money from sponsoring football teams. Maybe football teams need to look at what they are giving the sponsor rather than vice versa.
I used to work for a company that was keen to get involved with the Knights. We were willing to spend some money yet the negotiations went like this
"Give us money"
"You get the joy of saying you support the Knights".
That's it.
Now management has changed since then but it seems that the disconnect they have with fans probably suggests they still treat sponsors with similar disdain.
I think there's plenty of money in Newcastle and Hunter based companies that we can get the support. Maybe the approach from the club needs to be different.
I heard nothing has changed much in that regard (second hand feedback from a company that was asked to sponsor them).
Listening to latest SST podcast. Mr Super Agent still laying the boot into RM. Third week in a row.
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any news on the club?
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...newcastle-jetsGuardian writers’ predicted position: 10th (sorry, Jets fans)
Last season’s position: 7th
Such is Newcastle’s recent history, such has been its off-season of shifting sands and revolving doors, that one wonders if the club’s current position in the top six – alphabetically speaking, that is – might prove to be its high water mark this coming season. It will take much effort, and luck, to ensure it is not.
Since finishing seventh last year – a season of inconsistency that featured a seven-game winless streak – the Jets have shed 12 of their squad, replaced interim coach Clayton Zane, and seen the club’s owners plant a For Sale sign in the front yard. Nathan Tinkler and his Hunter Sports Group may not be mourned when their caravan pulls out of the lot, but the loss of a dozen players – including international marquee Emile Heskey, captain Ruben Zadkovich, Michael Bridges, Nathan Burns, and exciting youngsters Josh Brillante, Connor Chapman, Craig Goodwin, James Brown and the competition’s leading goal-scorer last season, Adam Taggart – leaves some hole to fill, whatever the players’ individual merits.
Fashioning a rebuilt Jets squad into a cohesive unit is the job of debut A-League coach, Englishman Phil Stubbins, a veteran of Australian football since 1988 when he began playing for Melbourne’s Heidelberg United in the NSL. Stubbins would go on to play briefly for South Melbourne before ending up at Westvale Olympic in 1994 and it’s there he began a coaching career that has taken him around the Victorian state leagues to assistant coach at Adelaide United (during a period of success), to the AIS and, most recently, to Thailand. That’s quite an apprenticeship for an A-League head coaching position and he’ll be hoping it puts him in good stead for the challenges of his new role, the main aim of which will to get the Jets back into the finals after a four-year absence.
Stubbins’s immediate task is to make harmonious a squad (on and off the pitch) with so many new faces, some of whom are not as new as they may like. These things can take a while but boardroom heavies and fans aren’t always inclined to wait and it’s never too long before fingers start drumming on tabletops. So Stubbins will be relying on luck with injuries and the ability of his newcomers to adapt quickly to a new club and new team-mates and, in some cases, recapture their best form though it hasn’t been seen for some time. In these respects Stubbins has taken a gamble with recruitment.
With Taggart now at Fulham, Newcastle’s main goal-threat is gone, so much will be expected of incumbent Joel Griffiths as well as new signings Jeronimo Neumann from Adelaide, and 23-year-old Edson Montano, on loan from Ecuadorean Serie A side Barcelona SC. Montano has found the net in Newcastle’s unspectacular pre-season but the Jets will be hoping for a better scoring rate from him than the nine goals he scored in 45 appearances for Barcelona SC. Neumann, a classic poacher, scored 16 in 51 games for Adelaide, a rate less impressive than various commentators’ penchant for screaming out of his first name would suggest. He is, however, a player with good positional sense and a fine radar for the movement of his team-mates.
Perhaps the key to Newcastle’s attack will be whether the mercurial Marcos Flores can stay injury free and, as playmaker, recapture the kind of form that has made him one of the A-League’s all-time greats. Flores has just endured what he’s called the worst period of his career, brought on by a serious knee injury that ended his season with the Central Coast Mariners and saw him released. He says he’s keen to repay Newcastle’s faith in him. Stubbins will not only be hoping he does, but actually can. Few return from such an injury the same player.
Joining Flores in midfield will be little known Northern Ireland international Jonny Steele (who contributed five goals and six assists to the New York Red Bulls side last season) and the experienced Billy Celeski, who spent five seasons at Victory before playing last season with Liaoning Whowin in the Chinese Super League. But underlining the thinness of the Jets’ midfield a pre-season groin injury to Celeski, and a knee injury to Ben Kantarovski, might delay their season starts until round four. Youngster and local lad Jacob Pepper looks likely to get an early opportunity to realise his potential.
Given those injuries the Jets made every effort to lure former Roar midfielder Erik Paartalu, even releasing rising star Craig Goodwin to make room for his arrival. But when Goodwin signed with Adelaide United, Melbourne City gazumped the Jets by securing Paartalu’s signature. With these complications in mind the Jets convinced Zenon Caravella to return to the club. Caravella, who was granted a release at the end of last season as he wanted to pursue business interests in his hometown of Cairns, will add to the experience offered by goalkeeper Mark Birighitti and, among others, defenders Scott Neville, Dutchman – and new captain – Kew Jaliens, and two ex-Socceroos: David Carney and Adrian Madaschi, a left-back now on to his 11th club in 14 years.
In all, Newcastle have about them the look of a team in transition – but whether it’s a transition from seventh spot to last place, or seventh to the finals remains to be seen. It won’t help the Jets that the resurfacing of Hunter Stadium will see them on the road for their first four matches (including trips to Melbourne, Wellington and Perth), but if they can come out of those matches relatively unscathed they may just return to Newcastle with optimism for the long road ahead. They’ll need it.
Nope. Basically rates Big Phil, all the problems are in front office, and several signings were foisted on Phil rather than being his decision.
On a wider note, WSW reaching the ACL final has raised interest in a-league clubs being purchased, but Adelaide is seen as a better prospect due to Newy front office staff trying to protect their positions as a condition of sale.
Apparently had a texting war with RM after the show last week due to comments made. Offer was made for RM to appear on SST which was refused.
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Can only imagine the interview.
Question asked.
10 minute pause whilst Middleby consults with PR person.
Stupid, nonsensical, well worded answer given that says a lot but answers nothing.
Repeat repeat repeat.
Smash iPod.
We remain the Jets.
Just for the record, I am not Mr Super Agent, but I'm thinking I need to listen to this podcast.
Middleby Gone
Lawrie Out
Very interesting podcast. Middle East interested party in an A-League club but does he want to introduce him to Middleby and have him ruin the deal? No proper CEO since Tsatsimas and Liolio. What's the bet that Rallis demands that Middleby be sacked before he introduces the buyer to the club and Tinkler boots him out the door.
Has to be a complete conflict of interest to have Middleby involved in the sale negotiations if he wants to keep his job as part of it.
Last edited by hausmann; 08-10-2014 at 06:58 PM.
this is what the coaties call themselves. noone rates them, they dont care. fk that and fk them. We are working class newy. We will follow the the harder worker to earths end and dont accept nothing less. What we need is a fully committed backroom who knows how to recruit and back each other.
Then the coaches and players will have a chance.
No they call themselves the small club, small region underdog.
I am essentially saying big club, small passionate region. I want to see the people of Newcastle passionate about the club like they were in 06/07/08, before everything turned to shit.
Last edited by hausmann; 08-10-2014 at 09:29 PM.
You mean back when we were winning?
I think you've just solved your own dilemma.
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