Daily Australian News Thread 2017

[plague]

Hooles Agent having a dig at Jets fans

All 4 of them?

[MFKS]

Hooles Agent having a dig at Jets fans on facebook congratulating Hoole for signing for the Great coach Paul Okon
Link??

[Grimario]

Link??

Just look his agent up on Facebook.

[MFKS]

**** that is impressive

[q-money]

:rof:

[The Dunster]

Joel Grenell is a great businessman but he's not doing these kids any favours with respect to their football careers. Like the rest of them he's just a grubby little parasite. Hoole to Gosford was what was right for Joel Grenell not for Andrew Hoole.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Sniffer dog bitch Nicholes, 4 match ban for attempting to snort flower.

[Jetmaster]

The new office....

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4702474/jets-move-into-new-offices/?cs=12

[leftrightout]

Sniffer dog bitch Nicholes, 4 match ban for attempting to snort flower.

Only 4 games? Sign him up!

[Grimario]

Adelaide apparently close to signing some bloke as coach that isn't Batistuta.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/adelaide-united-set-to-sign-former-bundesliga-coach-marco-kurz-instead-of-gabriel-batistuta-20170605-gwkeoq.html

[Hunter403]

Barbarousis leaving Nix

[borat]

A former Bundesliga coach..........I wonder why we aren't ever in the market for foreign coaches outside the HAL......mustn't be a mate of Lawrie's

[StannyCFCJET]

Kosta Baraourses leaves the Nix, Lets sign him up

[MonkeyKplunk]

All the talk about Barbarouses is that he'll be returning to Victory, but surely Roar, Gypos and us would all be in talks to sign him.

Especially since Ernie was a big part of him returning to the Nix in 2016, and Kosta only seemed to start having "non-football issues" once Ernie resigned.

[halo se7en]

A former Bundesliga coach..........I wonder why we aren't ever in the market for foreign coaches outside the HAL......mustn't be a mate of Lawrie's

Ooh a foreigner, he must be awesome. From wiki:

Kurz won promotion to the Bundesliga for the club in 2010. The subsequent 2010–11 season was changeable and most of the time, FCK was threatened by relegation, but eventually the "Red Devils" finished a sensational seventh in the German top flight - their best finish in the bundesliga since 1998-99, when they finished fifth. 2011–12 was much worse, with Kaiserslautern occupying a relegation berth virtually all season. Therefore, Kaiserslautern parted ways with coach Kurz on 20 March 2012.On 18 December 2012, it was announced by Bundesliga side 1899 Hoffenheim that Kurz would be the new head coach for the second half of the 2012–13 season, when Hoffenheim faced the threat of relegation. Hoffenheim weren't able to emerge from the drop zone and decided to fire Kurz on 2 April 2013. Then Kurz was manager of Ingolstadt 04 between 9 June 2013[9] and 30 September 2013. He was named the head coach of Fortuna Düsseldorf on 23 December 2015. After scoring four points in seven games, Kurz was sacked on 13 March 2016.

So he won promotion with a team, then basically struggled for the next 7 years.

[Wilso8948]

Adelaide apparently close to signing some bloke as coach that isn't Batistuta.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/adelaide-united-set-to-sign-former-bundesliga-coach-marco-kurz-instead-of-gabriel-batistuta-20170605-gwkeoq.html

and we got Merrick.

[Wilso8948]

Ooh a foreigner, he must be awesome. From wiki:

Kurz won promotion to the Bundesliga for the club in 2010. The subsequent 2010–11 season was changeable and most of the time, FCK was threatened by relegation, but eventually the "Red Devils" finished a sensational seventh in the German top flight - their best finish in the bundesliga since 1998-99, when they finished fifth. 2011–12 was much worse, with Kaiserslautern occupying a relegation berth virtually all season. Therefore, Kaiserslautern parted ways with coach Kurz on 20 March 2012.On 18 December 2012, it was announced by Bundesliga side 1899 Hoffenheim that Kurz would be the new head coach for the second half of the 2012–13 season, when Hoffenheim faced the threat of relegation. Hoffenheim weren't able to emerge from the drop zone and decided to fire Kurz on 2 April 2013. Then Kurz was manager of Ingolstadt 04 between 9 June 2013[9] and 30 September 2013. He was named the head coach of Fortuna Düsseldorf on 23 December 2015. After scoring four points in seven games, Kurz was sacked on 13 March 2016.

So he won promotion with a team, then basically struggled for the next 7 years.

Got a team to the Bundesliga.
Stayed in the Bundesliga finishing mid table.
Top 2 flights in Germany shit on A league.
Contacts and networks in a league much higher than ours.
Name me a coach that hasn't "parted ways" or been fired.
Just a couple of points against your argument.

[borat]

Ooh a foreigner, he must be awesome. From wiki:

Kurz won promotion to the Bundesliga for the club in 2010. The subsequent 2010–11 season was changeable and most of the time, FCK was threatened by relegation, but eventually the "Red Devils" finished a sensational seventh in the German top flight - their best finish in the bundesliga since 1998-99, when they finished fifth. 2011–12 was much worse, with Kaiserslautern occupying a relegation berth virtually all season. Therefore, Kaiserslautern parted ways with coach Kurz on 20 March 2012.On 18 December 2012, it was announced by Bundesliga side 1899 Hoffenheim that Kurz would be the new head coach for the second half of the 2012–13 season, when Hoffenheim faced the threat of relegation. Hoffenheim weren't able to emerge from the drop zone and decided to fire Kurz on 2 April 2013. Then Kurz was manager of Ingolstadt 04 between 9 June 2013[9] and 30 September 2013. He was named the head coach of Fortuna Düsseldorf on 23 December 2015. After scoring four points in seven games, Kurz was sacked on 13 March 2016.

So he won promotion with a team, then basically struggled for the next 7 years.

Edit - Has to be a pisstake surely

[The Dunster]

Kosta Baraourses leaves the Nix, Lets sign him up

We have no need for a false 9 or one that's on far more money than his performances suggest he's worth. For an international marquee I'd hope the Jets would be looking for someone a lot better.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4709718/jets-to-profit-from-petratos-return/?cs=306

Looks like we get him back with added $

[The Dunster]

I'd like to have a No. 10 that was also a threat on goal. But I'll settle for Dimi Petratos or anyone for that matter who can turn up for training without being on crutches or in a wheelchair.

[Mark325]

I'm probably wrong, but with the 150,000 we get from petratos could the jets theoretically use that to pay out probably a good portion of Wayne Browns contract cause I really don't see how he's fitting into our team right now

[borat]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4709718/jets-to-profit-from-petratos-return/?cs=306

Looks like we get him back with added $

The comments on Barbarouses were very interesting, that we have the position earmarked for someone else. Sounds quite advanced. Wonder if the reason we aren't interested or know he is headed interstate is the Austin is coming our way.

[plague]

He will solve the No.10 position for the Jets.


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[borat]

I'm probably wrong, but with the 150,000 we get from petratos could the jets theoretically use tohat to pay out probably a good portion of Wayne Browns contract cause I really don't see how he's fitting into our team right now

Haha you don't think the 150k will go towards the 3mil in losses?

IMO Brown should be given a clean slate to prove himself. He was pushed all around the park without ever really being able to play in his natural position. I am hoping a pre-season in the settled midfield position beside Ugarkovic will make all the difference.

[hawk]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4709718/jets-to-profit-from-petratos-return/?cs=306

Looks like we get him back with added $

Some peeps losin their sh*t with excitement over this mediocrity on fb. rather barba

[Jeterpool]

In so far as he will wear number 10, I expect Plague. Can be the only reason

[MFKS]

Haha you don't think the 150k will go towards the 3mil in losses?

IMO Brown should be given a clean slate to prove himself. He was pushed all around the park without ever really being able to play in his natural position. I am hoping a pre-season in the settled midfield position beside Ugarkovic will make all the difference.

If Brown and Ugarkovic are our DMs next year we may as well just forget it

Both are shit

[Mark325]

Haha you don't think the 150k will go towards the 3mil in losses?

IMO Brown should be given a clean slate to prove himself. He was pushed all around the park without ever really being able to play in his natural position. I am hoping a pre-season in the settled midfield position beside Ugarkovic will make all the difference.

I thought brown was a no.10? And him and Ugarkovic partnered up isn't really the partnership I think a lot of people would be hoping for

[plague]

I thought brown was a no.10? And him and Ugarkovic partnered up isn't really the partnership I think a lot of people would be hoping for

if Poljak aint coming back it may be our best option.
not saying its the right option, but it might be our best.

who knows, the mongrel component might just increase with Brown there and we all know mongrel is vital to winning.

[lquiquer]

If Brown and Ugarkovic are our DMs next year we may as well just forget it

Both are shit

I think Super Ugar has potential ..... but agree about Brown, Finland is his garden he can share with Kokko...

[borat]

I thought brown was a no.10? And him and Ugarkovic partnered up isn't really the partnership I think a lot of people would be hoping for

He is a natural 8, said so in his first interview when he signed. Only the idiot continually played as a #10 when blind freddy could see that wasn't where he was suited.

I am hoping Ernie shows a little intelligence and flexibility not to constantly park 2 defensive midfielders infront of a back four.

[StannyCFCJET]

He is a natural 8, said so in his first interview when he signed. Only the idiot continually played as a #10 when blind freddy could see that wasn't where he was suited.

I am hoping Ernie shows a little intelligence and flexibility not to constantly park 2 defensive midfielders infront of a back four.

TBF Miller played him as a #10 as well

[Wilso8948]

I don't see Brown as a 10 at all. But we had no other option last year besides maybe Clut. We are in desperate need of a creative mid.

[borat]

TBF Miller played him as a #10 as well

In pre-season before we had completed the squad, big difference

[Frodo]

I don't see Brown as a 10 at all. But we had no other option last year besides maybe Clut. We are in desperate need of a creative mid.

Why don't we switch to a 4-4-2 or a 3-4-3 and negate the need for an Attacking Mid? I would rather see us sign one but we can get away without having a creative hub that other teams can mark out of the game. Hard working midfielders can help fill the void, lots of mongrel and all that.

But seriously, play with some width and try to give our slow thinking midfield more time on the ball? Just a thought, not anything worth reading too much into.

[MFKS]

Why don't we switch to a 4-4-2 or a 3-4-3 and negate the need for an Attacking Mid? I would rather see us sign one but we can get away without having a creative hub that other teams can mark out of the game. Hard working midfielders can help fill the void, lots of mongrel and all that.

But seriously, play with some width and try to give our slow thinking midfield more time on the ball? Just a thought, not anything worth reading too much into.
I would argue we play with too much width now

Judas Raheem and Nabbout are pretty much parked on the sideline too much

We need to condense the field more and leave the space to play into rather than holding the space on the sidelines as we have done for years

[Roundball Enthusiast]

I would argue we play with too much width now

Judas Raheem and Nabbout are pretty much parked on the sideline too much

We need to condense the field more and leave the space to play into rather than holding the space on the sidelines as we have done for years

Could only imagine if we played narrow and through the middle. You'd be blowing up saying we need to play with more width.

Insane.

[Grimario]

Really? Member is kind of right... we have played this style where we stick a winger completely isolated with zero support as wide as possible for years. All that Member appears to be suggesting is that you use the width as space to run into rather than starting out there and having half a field till your next support player in midfield.

[borat]

yup agreed....Member is right here. Start of the year we transitioned quickly through the midfield and out to the wings and it worked. Then opposition teams started to figure us out and it devolved to long ball out to the wings against defenders who were ready for it. we need to get back to playing through there midfield

[MFKS]

Really? Member is kind of right... we have played this style where we stick a winger completely isolated with zero support as wide as possible for years. All that Member appears to be suggesting is that you use the width as space to run into rather than starting out there and having half a field till your next support player in midfield.

:gent:

[MFKS]

Member is right here.

Could have stopped right there

You had said enough

[hawk]

Go direct pommy style. It will work at this level. We'll score that many we'll have to throw some back.

Then when they stack a sweeper we go round the outside like a trailer pk girl.

[leftrightout]

Go direct pommy style. It will work at this level. We'll score that many we'll have to throw some back.

Then when they stack a sweeper we go round the outside like a trailer pk girl.

Would love to see our team actually try that, Stoke style. Get Kokko up top, O'Caravan, Nabbout and Petratos running off him.
Even better, sign Peter Crouch to come and help!

I reckon Boogard would be heaps good at booting the ball up the park all day.

[turbojetfireV8]

Jets not sure what the budget will be yet:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4713149/jets-owner-commits-to-increased-budget/?cs=306

Burke returns from Portugal scholarship:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4712940/burke-stronger-for-run-in-portugal/?cs=2439

[Jeterpool]

Jets not sure what the budget will be yet:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4713149/jets-owner-commits-to-increased-budget/?cs=306

Burke returns from Portugal scholarship:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4712940/burke-stronger-for-run-in-portugal/?cs=2439

My guess...Kokko gets sold to Ledman FC if they are promoted.

[Wilso8948]

My guess...Kokko gets sold to Ledman FC if they are promoted.
That wouldn't be till next year though and his contract would be up. I think it's ridiculous he's one of our highest paid players in the club. I scoffed when that was mentioned on your podcast. Decent record but it was all in Finland playing in front of 5 people.

[&1gest]

#Nix (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Nix?src=hash) proud to present their new coaching staff - head coach Darije Kalezić and assistant coach Rado Vidošić

[borat]

#Nix (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Nix?src=hash) proud to present their new coaching staff - head coach Darije Kalezić and assistant coach Rado Vidošić

But but but he is foreign so won't be any good, won't know the local players and isn't a mate of Lawrie's

[Jeterpool]

That wouldn't be till next year though and his contract would be up. I think it's ridiculous he's one of our highest paid players in the club. I scoffed when that was mentioned on your podcast. Decent record but it was all in Finland playing in front of 5 people.

That was the bit I hadn't looked up - when the Chinese 3rd Division season ends.

[borat]

That wouldn't be till next year though and his contract would be up. I think it's ridiculous he's one of our highest paid players in the club. I scoffed when that was mentioned on your podcast. Decent record but it was all in Finland playing in front of 5 people.

Was reading an article on O'Donnovan and his background today which was very interesting.

If you look at his career before th HAL he has only ever scored goals in Ireland and Brunei (Singaporean League at the time). Other than that his stats are dire for years.

Point being the league the player comes from and their level of success is a good indicator, but it still comes down to the individual qualities of the player. And by my reckoning tall target type strikers have never worked in the HAL. Strikers need athleticism to press in this league.

That being said Kokko was never utilised in a way that would give him any chance to be successful. He can clearly find the net in the right circumstances yet Jones decided to isolate him upfront and expect miracles.

[pv4]

#Nix (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Nix?src=hash) proud to present their new coaching staff - head coach Darije Kalezić and assistant coach Rado Vidošić

Used to coach Stephan kellar, Jordy Buijs and Donny deGroot in the one team.

Rado will be a terrific resource for him. Expect Broich signing imminently, assuming he isn't retiring.

[borat]

That was the bit I hadn't looked up - when the Chinese 3rd Division season ends.

Lawrie and Ernie went to a 2nd division game as well, Shenzhen FC (different to Ledman) v Beijing Renhe. Wonder if our Chinese player will come from either of these teams.

Although I noticed Lawrie used the term "Asian player" rather than "Chinese player" in the Herald today. I wonder if that signals that we can look further afield than China which would be fantastic.

[borat]

Used to coach Stephan kellar, Jordy Buijs and Donny deGroot in the one team.

Rado will be a terrific resource for him. Expect Broich signing imminently, assuming he isn't retiring.

Broich would be fantastic for the Nix

[Hunter403]

Apparently Mauk wants a move.

[steve136]

Can't wait for that Asian player we have to sign to make the Jets huge in China, just like Lei Lei did.

[borat]

Can't wait for that Asian player we have to sign to make the Jets huge in China, just like Lei Lei did.

Asia would allow us to recruit a promising player from Malaysia/Thailand/J2 etc. a player we can hopefully get good value for and sell on, rather than a Chinese player who expects a CSL salary.

[Jeterpool]

Apparently Mauk wants a move.

Go get him. Add Holland and we are starting to look better.

Maybe Holland is the other of the "signings" we are soon announcing.

[Bon]

Go get him. Add Holland and we are starting to look better.

Maybe Holland is the other of the "signings" we are soon announcing.

Careful... Premy will be attempting to contain his load if any more Holland rumours come out.. :thumbsup:

[borat]

Go get him. Add Holland and we are starting to look better.

Maybe Holland is the other of the "signings" we are soon announcing.

What Hunter403 didn't say was he wants to move to another Dutch club rather than play div 2. Next to no chance of returning to the HAL

[Jeterpool]

What Hunter403 didn't say was he wants to move to another Dutch club rather than play div 2. Next to no chance of returning to the HAL

Oh. OK. Cheers

[The Dunster]

Lawrie and Ernie went to a 2nd division game as well, Shenzhen FC (different to Ledman) v Beijing Renhe. Wonder if our Chinese player will come from either of these teams.

Although I noticed Lawrie used the term "Asian player" rather than "Chinese player" in the Herald today. I wonder if that signals that we can look further afield than China which would be fantastic.

I was thinking the Chinese player might come from the Ledman sponsored Portuguese League rather than from a lower tier Chinese league team.

[borat]

I was thinking the Chinese player might come from the Ledman sponsored Portuguese League rather than from a lower tier Chinese league team.

Are there any there? Ledman dropped his demand that all ten clubs in the 2nd div must have a Chinese player and wasn't there a big deal made of Ma Lei Lei bring one of 2 or 3 Chinese players playing outside China

[halo se7en]

But but but he is foreign so won't be any good, won't know the local players and isn't a mate of Lawrie's

But but but he's foreign which automatically = awesomeness

[Jetmaster]

But but but he's foreign which automatically = awesomeness

Stubbins was "foreign".

[borat]

But but but he's foreign which automatically = awesomeness

Or you do something outrageous and actually look at the guys resume and make decent assessment.

But when we have such a furtile crop of tactical geniuses coming out of Toronto then why would we.

[Jeterpool]

Are there any there? Ledman dropped his demand that all ten clubs in the 2nd div must have a Chinese player and wasn't there a big deal made of Ma Lei Lei bring one of 2 or 3 Chinese players playing outside China

Here's the Wiki page for the China National Team. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_national_football_team

There is only one player in the last squad, and the recent call-ups, who plays outside of China.

There will be a difficulty bringing a player of Chinese nationality but with the quality I think we all expect without spending a fiar amount o

[borat]

The facts are, Nix, AUFC, Melbourne City and the Jets all had vacant coaching positions this off season.

We are the only club who needed to appoint a local coach from with HAL experience because apparently only they could possibly know and recruit the local players. Then of course it comes out later that Ernie was mates with Lawrie and all it took was a "you bored yet" text. Do you think either the Nix or AUFC used this approach to their prospective coaches.

Both the Nix and soon to be AUFC have appointed better credentialed coaches. Taking MC out of the equation due to their resources, Nix and AUFC are both very comparable clubs to us. Neither should out strip us for resources any more.

So what I want to know is, did we even look at these two or any other foreign coaches, or did Lawrie make no effort. Because I suspect once Lawrie fired off his text message to a mate it was a done deal from there on out.

Its one thing to run professional recruitment process, assess all the candidates and then come up with Ernie as your pick. It's another if we limit our choices to Lawries mates or CV's that get emailed to the office.

[MFKS]

The facts are, Nix, AUFC, Melbourne City and the Jets all had vacant coaching positions this off season.

We are the only club who needed to appoint a local coach from with HAL experience because apparently only they could possibly know and recruit the local players. Then of course it comes out later that Ernie was mates with Lawrie and all it took was a "you bored yet" text. Do you think either the Nix or AUFC used this approach to their prospective coaches.

Both the Nix and soon to be AUFC have appointed better credentialed coaches. Taking MC out of the equation due to their resources, Nix and AUFC are both very comparable clubs to us. Neither should out strip us for resources any more.

So what I want to know is, did we even look at these two or any other foreign coaches, or did Lawrie make no effort. Because I suspect once Lawrie fired off his text message to a mate it was a done deal from there on out.

Its one thing to run professional recruitment process, assess all the candidates and then come up with Ernie as your pick. It's another if we limit our choices to Lawries mates or CV's that get emailed to the office.

That's great but can you explain to us all what it is about this football club that makes you think we are competent and professional??

Because from where I looking from your expectations seem quite misguided

[pv4]

Borat the club made it incredibly obvious that the last 3 coaches were all rookies and they made their intentions very clear that they wanted a coach with AL experience. Mike Mulvey just took a job in Thailand after resolving his legal dispute with Roar and he confirmed he was in the running for the jerks.

They have gone into this with a broadcasted plan and have stuck to it so far.

Let's just hope they don't let the coach go a full season without review, like Lawrie confirmed Jones had with his "never under the microscope" comment.

As far as credentials go, a former premiership and championship winning coach isn't too bad imo

[MFKS]

Borat the club made it incredibly obvious that the last 3 coaches were all rookies and they made their intentions very clear that they wanted a coach with AL experience. Mike Mulvey just took a job in Thailand after resolving his legal dispute with Roar and he confirmed he was in the running for the jerks.

They have gone into this with a broadcasted plan and have stuck to it so far.

Let's just hope they don't let the coach go a full season without review, like Lawrie confirmed Jones had with his "never under the microscope" comment.

As far as credentials go, a former premiership and championship winning coach isn't too bad imo

What you mean review??

How about we actually just allow Merrick the stability and show some faith that he knows what he doing??

I couldn't give a **** if we finish last next season ??

Is that a reflection on Bert?? No

It just showing how ****ed we are and how deep the hole is.

[borat]

Borat the club made it incredibly obvious that the last 3 coaches were all rookies and they made their intentions very clear that they wanted a coach with AL experience. Mike Mulvey just took a job in Thailand after resolving his legal dispute with Roar and he confirmed he was in the running for the jerks.

They have gone into this with a broadcasted plan and have stuck to it so far.

Let's just hope they don't let the coach go a full season without review, like Lawrie confirmed Jones had with his "never under the microscope" comment.

As far as credentials go, a former premiership and championship winning coach isn't too bad imo

Yeah you have completely missed the point and I said nothing about rookies.

When the Jets have a coaching appointment it's always down to the select group of recycled HAL coaches like Merrick, Mckinna or even Kosmina, or assistants like Jones or Stubbins.........yet our direct opposition are able to consider better credentialed more successful coaches from overseas.

It would be one thing if we even looked or were out bid. But we don't.

[halo se7en]

Yeah you have completely missed the point and I said nothing about rookies.

When the Jets have a coaching appointment it's always down to the select group of recycled HAL coaches like Merrick, Mckinna or even Kosmina, or assistants like Jones or Stubbins.........yet our direct opposition are able to consider better credentialed more successful coaches from overseas.

It would be one thing if we even looked or were out bid. But we don't.

How do you know we didn't look? Or that we made an offer but they refused?

[borat]

That's great but can you explain to us all what it is about this football club that makes you think we are competent and professional??

Because from where I looking from your expectations seem quite misguided

We aren't professional and competent but it's something to aspire to if we ever want to be competitive

[Jeterpool]

We were heavily linked with Steve Kean as one of the final options. We didn't just limit ourselves to the A-League.

[q-money]

we can find a shit coach anywhere

[borat]

How do you know we didn't look? Or that we made an offer but they refused?

I don't.

But what I do know is we were open to the press on a number of candidates and these names were not mentioned, despite going through recruitment processes with other clubs either at the same time or shortly after.

I also don't beleive in recruitment processes where you appoint you mates, which we are 2 for 2 now.

I say this but am still hopeful that Ernie is successful. I just wish we had a professional CEO to run the club.

[borat]

We were heavily linked with Steve Kean as one of the final options. We didn't just limit ourselves to the A-League.

Because Kean or his manager contacted the club. I don't beleive we actively went looking or have the ability to do so.

It's interesting that Kean wasn't successful considering what he achieved wiith O'Donnovan.

[Jeterpool]

Because Kean or his manager contacted the club. I don't beleive we actively went looking or have the ability to do so.


But as an employer with a vacancy, you have applicants come to you. Unless the employer wants to poach someone specifically.

I'm confused about this discussion.

[borat]

But as an employer with a vacancy, you have applicants come to you. Unless the employer wants to poach someone specifically.

I'm confused about this discussion.

I would suggest that most coaching appointments utilise agents/managers/intermediaries,just like for players. As in the Nix start by talking to contacts and agents looking for coaches who might be open to Australia with specific credentials.

Not too dissimilar to recruitment agencies head hunting candidates. Many professions employ predominantly this way.

Even if you example was correct then the point remains that the Jets are then an unattractive option over our direct rivals who finished 7th and 8th last season.

We, the Jets, seem to take the cheaper option and rely on direct approaches

[The Dunster]

Are there any there? Ledman dropped his demand that all ten clubs in the 2nd div must have a Chinese player and wasn't there a big deal made of Ma Lei Lei bring one of 2 or 3 Chinese players playing outside China

There are five who's contracts end in June 2017.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/ledman-liga-pro/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/PO2/plus//galerie/0?jahr=2017&ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=alle&altersklasse=alle&land_id=34&yt0=Show

[MFKS]

we can find a shit coach anywhere


We can also find a shit player anywhere as well

We do have some talent

[Jetmaster]

I'm happy that for this appointment at least, we have played safe - there have been too many mistakes the last few years to have another "punt". Those mistakes have made us risk averse. Not Ernie's fault. I would hope for two years of stability at least before we get adventurous again.

Fox Sports bagged us for being boring with Ernie - but felt we should have given a young local coach like Rudan a go, not go overseas. Some don't listen.

[MFKS]

I'm happy that for this appointment at least, we have played safe - there have been too many mistakes the last few years to have another "punt". Those mistakes have made us risk averse. Not Ernie's fault. I would hope for two years of stability at least before we get adventurous again.

Fox Sports bagged us for being boring with Ernie - but felt we should have given a young local coach like Rudan a go, not go overseas. Some don't listen.

That wasn't Mark's mates bagging the Jets though was it ??

[borat]

There are five who's contracts end in June 2017.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/ledman-liga-pro/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/PO2/plus//galerie/0?jahr=2017&ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=alle&altersklasse=alle&land_id=34&yt0=Show

You are right. Could well be who we sign. Not very hopeful they will be any more than squad filler though.

[Tommyjet]

I'm happy that for this appointment at least, we have played safe - there have been too many mistakes the last few years to have another "punt". Those mistakes have made us risk averse. Not Ernie's fault. I would hope for two years of stability at least before we get adventurous again.

Fox Sports bagged us for being boring with Ernie - but felt we should have given a young local coach like Rudan a go, not go overseas. Some don't listen.

Rudan needs to man up and get an assistants gig in the a-league rather than just expect to jump straight into the top job

[MFKS]

Rudan needs to man up and get an assistants gig in the a-league rather than just expect to jump straight into the top job

Rudans tyres are being pumped up by his mates in the media

He don't have to be the favourite for the gig but they blo w enough smoke up his arse he in contention

[hawk]

Rudans tyres are being pumped up by his mates in the media

He don't have to be the favourite for the gig but they blo w enough smoke up his arse he in contention

jobs, boys, n'allthat

[belchardo]

seems like the fastest way to a coaches job in the a-league is to be the assistant at the jets.

[Wilso8948]

McKinna on NBN stated we should all "get excited" about a signing this week. Petratos was mentioned but I read it as an addition to this. Milligan and Burns names were mentioned. Seemed a lot more keen on a marquee. Also said we may not need to use all visas if we find the right Aussies. Can't help think of Burns again..

[Jeterpool]

There's so many contradictions in reports. I might go into hibernation until it's all done and dusted.

[goaliepersempre]

Any news with the next season draw comes out? last year it was on the 6th of june.

[rhysd]

Any news with the next season draw comes out? last year it was on the 6th of june.

This x10000

[borat]

McKinna on NBN stated we should all "get excited" about a signing this week. Petratos was mentioned but I read it as an addition to this. Milligan and Burns names were mentioned. Seemed a lot more keen on a marquee. Also said we may not need to use all visas if we find the right Aussies. Can't help think of Burns again..

Definitely additional to Petratos and obviously quality considering the marquee talk. I call Burns as I can't see Milligan returning considering his recent statements

[leftrightout]

Burns and O'Donovan... not bad!
Will believe it when I see it on the park Rd.1!
Until then I'll believe the signing we are meant to be excited about is the leading goal scorer from NSWPL.

[borat]

Burns and O'Donovan... not bad!
Will believe it when I see it on the park Rd.1!
Until then I'll believe the signing we are meant to be excited about is the leading goal scorer from NSWPL.

And Petratos.....with Nabbout, not a bad front 4

[hawk]

McKinna on NBN stated we should all "get excited" about a signing this week.


Yeah right, if it's not Berisha it's not exciting


There's so many contradictions in reports. I might go into hibernation until it's all done and dusted.

Good advice. Wake me up when we put together another squad that = 9th. #4evaoptimist

[turbojetfireV8]

McKinna on NBN stated we should all "get excited" about a signing this week. Petratos was mentioned but I read it as an addition to this. Milligan and Burns names were mentioned. Seemed a lot more keen on a marquee. Also said we may not need to use all visas if we find the right Aussies. Can't help think of Burns again..

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetslawrie070617.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

Hate it when these have no sound:
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetslatest050617.mp4

[plague]

I might go into hibernation until it's all done and dusted.

Come hang out in the bird thread.
It's lit over there.

[Jeterpool]

Come hang out in the bird thread.
It's lit over there.

Don't you mean nest or roost?

[Jetmaster]

Bugger...

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/news-newcastle-jets-audax-italiano-friendly-cancelled/iut7z7jrtfsu1d3a9jbdvvb6w

Sounds like another crooked promoter.

[q-money]

lol, why would you want to ruin your time off the a-league by watching the jets ffs

[borat]

Bugger...

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/news-newcastle-jets-audax-italiano-friendly-cancelled/iut7z7jrtfsu1d3a9jbdvvb6w

Sounds like another crooked promoter.

Goal Australia are reporting Jets are refusing to reveal what the problem is and the partnership could be done for.

That's the Jets for you

[Grimario]

Goal Australia are reporting Jets are refusing to reveal what the problem is and the partnership could be done for.

That's the Jets for you

I can't believe you have the audaxity to suggest it's the Jets fault.

[Jeterpool]

Goal Australia are reporting Jets are refusing to reveal what the problem is and the partnership could be done for.

That's the Jets for you

Perhaps it's not the Jets fault and we're refusing to be bullied or taken advantage of?

Like most thinkgs I doubt we will know

[borat]

Perhaps it's not the Jets fault and we're refusing to be bullied or taken advantage of?

Like most thinkgs I doubt we will know

No idea, but something's gone wrong and a media outlet is reporting on it.

Either way it's not a good look to be involved in dicey ventures that end up getting cancelled. Looks like a lack of due diligence was undertaken

[borat]

I can't believe you have the audaxity to suggest it's the Jets fault.
Haha

[MFKS]

No idea, but something's gone wrong and a media outlet is reporting on it.

Either way it's not a good look to be involved in dicey ventures that end up getting cancelled. Looks like a lack of due diligence was undertaken

Dicey ventures not good to be involved in??

Remind me of that when they send out the Members renewal stuff

[borat]

For the life of me I can't think of a partnership between clubs that has ever been successful unless the clubs have the same owners. Wonder when the Mariners/Sheffield Utd partnership will bear fruit.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

It's not just us...

http://www.communitynews.com.au/guardian-express/sport/chilean-club-audax-italiano-cancels-match-perth-glory/

Sounds like they either couldn't get visas? Or don't have the money to fly over?

[Grimario]

For the life of me I can't think of a partnership between clubs that has ever been successful unless the clubs have the same owners. Wonder when the Mariners/Sheffield Utd partnership will bear fruit.

That relationship is already worth m/b/tr/zillions for CCM as Marc Warren left them for Sheff Utd. Nick Montgomery as a result of it, probably?

[borat]

That relationship is already worth m/b/tr/zillions for CCM as Marc Warren left them for Sheff Utd. Nick Montgomery as a result of it, probably? Well I guess you could say Sheffield Utd got to palm off an old captain who had run out of legs. Remember how they were going to be taking on all the talented Blades Juniors to hone their skills at the luxurious "Centre of Excellence"

I find all these partnerships to be all talk and no substance.

[borat]

It's not just us...

http://www.communitynews.com.au/guardian-express/sport/chilean-club-audax-italiano-cancels-match-perth-glory/

Sounds like they either couldn't get visas? Or don't have the money to fly over?

A month out someone needed to be making down payments on the logistics and I suspect it wasn't forthcoming.

[Wilso8948]

I was more thinking the Chile lads looked at the ticket sales and thought "**** that shit"

[Jeterpool]

I was more thinking the Chile lads looked at the ticket sales and thought "**** that shit"

Clearly don't know the Newcastle culture where we buy late.

And even then, $35 for GA and everything else from $40 for a pre-season friendly against a team I had never heard of (no disrespect) I think was askign far too much.

[Wilso8948]

Clearly don't know the Newcastle culture where we buy late.

And even then, $35 for GA and everything else from $40 for a pre-season friendly against a team I had never heard of (no disrespect) I think was askign far too much.

They would have been lucky to get 5k through the gates.

[Jeterpool]

They would have been lucky to get 5k through the gates.

I wasn't going. Particularly at those prices

[borat]

So Audax released a statement that they were advised by the promoter that the tour had been cancelled, and Ben O'Niell confirmed it on Twitter.

So it's either the Jets or the promoter who cancelled by the looks of it

[borat]

Sounds like the promoter got cold feet and bailed

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Sounds like the promoter got cold feet and bailed

Now.. Was the promoter LEDMAN?

[Couscous]

I'd already booked my business-class flights to Newcastle and luxury suite at the Novotel. Devastated.

[Jetmaster]

Seeing they cancelled Perth as well this isn't down to the Jets.

[borat]

Now.. Was the promoter LEDMAN?

Nope....Visionmax was the promoter. Very small Australian based and we, the Jets, were the ones discussing friendlies when Lawrie was in Chile earlier this year.

But yeah no responsibility for getting involved in this. Surely happens to everyone.

[MFKS]

Nope....Visionmax was the promoter. Very small Australian based and we, the Jets, were the ones discussing friendlies when Lawrie was in Chile earlier this year.

But yeah no responsibility for getting involved in this. Surely happens to everyone.

What the **** was the promoter thinking??

Bringing this mob out here was never going to be a money spinning thing

Colo Colo would struggle to sell well in this country let alone a side that even football fans are scratching their heads and have to Google

Getting a side like that here is a loss making exercise
Always will be

[borat]

What the **** was the promoter thinking??

Bringing this mob out here was never going to be a money spinning thing

Colo Colo would struggle to sell well in this country let alone a side that even football fans are scratching their heads and have to Google

Getting a side like that here is a loss making exercise
Always will be
I agree, but what were we thinking getting involved.

I suspect that Lawrie never really looked that close to the business case but $35 tickets for an unknown Chilean team was never going to work. Was always going to run a loss.

Smart well run clubs don't get involved in poorly thought out ventures

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Meanwhile...

Sydney, WSW, Victree, City all getting involved with some of the biggest clubs in the world.

And we cancel a friendly vs some poor Chilean club.

Shows where we're at as a club.

[borat]

But as an employer with a vacancy, you have applicants come to you. Unless the employer wants to poach someone specifically.

I'm confused about this discussion.

In light of this recent discussion, this interview from the HAL website clarifies that well run clubs don't just sit on their hands and wait for applicants to come to them. Nor do they employ their mates.


How did the move to Wellington Phoenix come about?

"My contact with Wellington is since 2013.
"One of the biggest player agents Dragan Jevtic from Melbourne, who unfortunately died last year, brought us into contact in 2013.
"But in 2013 I was signed by PSV Eindhoven who at that time were starting with a totally new vision with the legend Phillip Cocu as the new head coach.
"PSV brought me in as the coach of their second team and to be part of the first team and part of their vision.
"From that time, Wellington Phoenix followed me as a coach and last year David Dome contacted me again to see if I was interested in working together.
"It surprised me that Wellington kept an eye on me and they gave me a lot of respect. It's very nice and very kind."

Read more at http://www.a-league.com.au/article/wellington-phoenixs-new-coach-reveals-his-plans-part-1/1o3tjacoc4yhg12xqour13m924#rB7RVD7WuEsexwOA.99

[hawk]

Meanwhile...

Sydney, WSW, Victree, City all getting involved with some of the biggest clubs in the world.

And we cancel a friendly vs some poor Chilean club.

Shows where we're at as a club.

Their club is too small and piddly. We are waiting for a big club like Northampton.

[GrantB]

They would have been lucky to get 5k through the gates.

Listening to what Lawrie the other week. He was expecting a crowd of 6k, so the crowd size wasn't the issue, from the Jets point of view, anyway.

[hawk]

any good news?

[Couscous]

The antibiotics seem to be working. I feel much better today.

[The Dunster]

Meanwhile...

Shows where we're at as a club.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ghvgE5EzUq4/VdSJpFxMGkI/AAAAAAAAHqk/bkWY1H5KJXk/s1600/ANC%2Bup%2Bshit%2Bcreek.jpg

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Costa back to Victory.

[MFKS]

Costa back to Victory.

He leaving Chelsea to go to Melbourne??

That sure a great pick up for the Tards

[Roundball Enthusiast]

K-K-Kosta.

5 5 5

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Dimi's baaaackkk boyyys v2.0

[steve136]

Dimi's baaaackkk boyyys v2.0

Hated him last time he was here.

No engines, no ticker, didn't even score any goals etc

[Grimario]

Hated him last time he was here.

No engines, no ticker, didn't even score any goals etc

Typical Jets fan, always looking at the cloud instead of the silver lining. Bloke has never lost a game and his work in midfield has meant we have never conceded either. Top bloke. Sign him up, Ernie.

[Jeterpool]

Typical Jets fan, always looking at the cloud instead of the silver lining. Bloke has never lost a game and his work in midfield has meant we have never conceded either. Top bloke. Sign him up, Ernie.

Are you kidding?? We've technically been paid $150,000 to take him!! How good can he be??

[plague]

Are you kidding?? We've technically been paid $150,000 to take him!! How good can he be??

Except we prob gave him a $160,000 pay rise to come back.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Except we prob gave him a $160,000 pay rise to come back.

If we were smart, we'd come back with a lower offer.

[Jeterpool]

Except we prob gave him a $160,000 pay rise to come back.

FFS Middleby strikes again

[MFKS]

Typical Jets fan, always looking at the cloud instead of the silver lining. Bloke has never lost a game and his work in midfield has meant we have never conceded either. Top bloke. Sign him up, Ernie.
I give it one ****ing game before reality sets in and this blokes silver halo dissappears

[plague]

If we were smart, we'd come back with a lower offer.

So you're saying I'm right.

[The Dunster]

What would Petratos have been looking for salary wise ? I certainly wouldn't be offering him anywhere near 200k or anything like that.

[hawk]

Typical Jets fan, always looking at the cloud instead of the silver lining. Bloke has never lost a game and his work in midfield has meant we have never conceded either. Top bloke. Sign him up, Ernie.

Our clouds are dark, end of.

[borat]

What would Petratos have been looking for salary wise ? I certainly wouldn't be offering him anywhere near 200k or anything like that.

I think you could put your house on Jones offered massive overs

[MFKS]

I think you could put your house on Jones offered massive overs

Why??

The Gypo CEO should be handling negotiations in consultation with the Griff

[MonkeyKplunk]

Why??

The Gypo CEO should be handling negotiations in consultation with the Griff

I think you'll find that would be the other way around.

[Jeterpool]

I think you'll find that would be the other way around.

:wtf::shock::blink::what::ban:

Griff consults with nobody

[pv4]

Typical Jets fan, always looking at the cloud instead of the silver lining. Bloke has never lost a game and his work in midfield has meant we have never conceded either. Top bloke. Sign him up, Ernie.

I have genuine concerns about crowd levels coming to see him play. It just hasn't brought fans to the stands.

[MonkeyKplunk]

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/news-topor-stanley-commits-to-second-stint-in-jets-colours/1xdtnm4sewm8m1eblsmlnuo3mp

Topor-Stanley is back...

[GazFish35]

9:42 AM - and not a single post since - clearly an inspiring signing that has the fans salivating!

[Bremsstrahlung]

Think the discussion was in another thread to be fair.

[GazFish35]

good point.
don't bring logic to this debate though. :)

[turbojetfireV8]

According to Jets FB page, this news is *massive*... :popcorn:

[plague]

9:42 AM - and not a single post since - clearly an inspiring signing that has the fans salivating!

As always the foz posters are researching and gathering information, bouncing ideas off peers and loved ones, formulating the best way to express their views and making sure all spelling and grammar is correct.

Only then will we see the rational, honest, polite debate that usually occurs on these here pages.

[turbojetfireV8]

There you go, now we have a genuine ex-Wanderer, he's gonna teach us how to play football (seeing as they invented it):
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4729796/topor-stanley-to-bring-wandering-to-newcastle/?cs=2439

This one isn't by a Sydney writer so doesn't grate as much...
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4730430/topor-stanley-on-a-mission-at-jets/?cs=306

[Jeterpool]

There you go, now we have a genuine ex-Wanderer, he's gonna teach us how to play football (seeing as they invented it):


:rof:

[Bon]

Well, according to TWG, Jimmy Holland is going back to Europe (the party is over, you can lose your erection now, Premy)..
And the Mariners are signing Daniel De Silva..

[hawk]

Any news on the massive signings?

[sorefootballer]

End of next week hawk. Then the end of the following week and so forth. Go jets

[turbojetfireV8]

the massive signing was Topper, it's all downhill from here on in...

[hawk]

Cool. Ill be hanging on next week.

Yes, Topper is good. Who's joining TT's?

[plague]

Massive announcement coming next week apparently we've sold Topor to China.

[turbojetfireV8]

does that mean we've bought his younger lesser known (aka less talented) brother instead?

[hawk]

Football reforms: Scrapping 45-minute half to be debated at Ifab
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40311889

I do like the clock stop idea but not sure if anyone below the top divisions can administer it.

Maybe we should stick to scoring goals in the 1st 30mins then you wouldnt have to worry about the end.

[parksey]

I do like the clock stop idea but not sure if anyone below the top divisions can administer it.

Maybe we should stick to scoring goals in the 1st 30mins then you wouldnt have to worry about the end.

they should stop ****ing about with this stuff.

[plague]

I do like the clock stop idea but not sure if anyone below the top divisions can administer it.

Maybe we should stick to scoring goals in the 1st 30mins then you wouldnt have to worry about the end.

Dribbling from free kicks seems like a good idea for the attacking team but isn't that what the advantage rule kind of is anyway?

Also refs would be under huge pressure to make sure the free kicks are taken from the spot of the foul as attacking teams would get too big an advantage.

Also on the 'goal kicks don't have to go out of the area' one, does that mean defenders can now come into the box?

[pv4]

they should stop ****ing about with this stuff.

You realise as recent as 1992 the backpass rule hadn't been brought in.

And the first world cup to have 32 teams was in 1998.

The laws of the game are continuously changing, before and during your lifetime. And I bet you would have argued against a large amount of them at the time too.

[belchardo]

I do like the clock stop idea but not sure if anyone below the top divisions can administer it.

Maybe we should stick to scoring goals in the 1st 30mins then you wouldnt have to worry about the end.

perhaps i'm just a cynic, but can't help thinking this is a trojan horse. first we stop the game regularly when the ball goes out, which gives us convenient breaks in the game, and when we've got convenient breaks we can introduce an ad, and when we've got ads, we can boost the revenue we make...

[plague]

Yeah but backpass was a legit rule change that made the game better.

Everything they've done to the offside rule hasn't helped (or clarified) anything.

Most of these new ones don't 'seem' to have the same impact as the backpass rule.

I mean this is gonna keep going on til the Yanks get bigger goals so buckle up.

[halo se7en]

You realise as recent as 1992 the backpass rule hadn't been brought in.

And the first world cup to have 32 teams was in 1998.

The laws of the game are continuously changing, before and during your lifetime. And I bet you would have argued against a large amount of them at the time too.

I don't think changing the # of teams to qualify for a tournament is 'changing the laws of the game'. And citing a rule change from 25 years ago isn't proving the point of continuously changing. Got anything more recent?

[plague]

and yes Belchardo is right this is the biggest issue with tv companies funding the sport, the ability for them to recoup those costs.

[plague]

Is there any other sport that advertises their kick off times and actually does apart from sockah?

From EPL to World Cups there is always a set time and the game revolves around it.

Every other sport says 'kickoff 3pm' but it never does so they can sneak a few more ads in.

For all FIFA's tomfoolery they have maintained the integrity of the actual game in the face of obvious pressure from commercial interests, especially compared to American sports.

[belchardo]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/06/16/city-poach-galekovic-for-upcoming-a-league-season/

galekovic to city

[parksey]

You realise as recent as 1992 the backpass rule hadn't been brought in.

And the first world cup to have 32 teams was in 1998.

The laws of the game are continuously changing, before and during your lifetime. And I bet you would have argued against a large amount of them at the time too.

outlawing the back pass is one thing, as as plague said it was in the best interests of the game. apart from that the kick-off rule was noticeable but one that also made sense.

changing how long a match goes for is just totally whacked. my problem with a lot of these floated rules changes lately is that they would change the fabric of the game in some ways. it's the best sport in the world, just leave it be.

[plague]

changing how long a match goes for is just totally whacked.

this is the key point.

ask any american their biggest gripes with their major sports.

Baseball ('Americas favourite pastime') is too damn long. It has acknowledged this problem and is actively speeding the game up to end it quicker.

The changes helped cut the average game length by 12 minutes, from three hours and eight minutes in 2014 to two hours and 56 minutes a year ago

NFL

An average professional football game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes
Now, the NFL is a monolith, but once upon a time Baseball was a monolith too, and the length of games is a concern to them.

Heck, the biggest thing for 'millennials' is the Redzone channel which just jumps from game to game when something good is happening so you dont have to sit through all those boring bits and ads. They have cannibalised their own telecasts and if you've ever watched the Redzone its the worst way to invest in a sport ever.

Basketball: well, just go watch the final '2 minutes' of any NBA game and see how 'exciting' it really is. Team timeouts, intentional fouls, TV timeouts. It ruins the spectacle down to games only being 'good' if theres a buzzer beater. The NBA has the equivalent of Peak Barcelona dominating the sport AND arguably the greatest player ever to live playing at the same time and the Americans hate it because its not exciting enough.

Now, soccer being the 'sleeping giant' in America thinks it can muscle into some heavily protected territory by stretching games out longer, making it even more tedious?

The advantage soccer has at the moment is that games start on time, and are over in less than 2 hours. All the other sports evny that position, yet FIFA thinks Americans (and other 'sleeping giants' like India and China) are gonna go for it?

Madness.

[parksey]

china and america should just nuke each other and rid us all of this problem.

[The Dunster]

this is the key point.

ask any american their biggest gripes with their major sports.

Baseball ('Americas favourite pastime') is too damn long. It has acknowledged this problem and is actively speeding the game up to end it quicker.


NFL

Now, the NFL is a monolith, but once upon a time Baseball was a monolith too, and the length of games is a concern to them.

Heck, the biggest thing for 'millennials' is the Redzone channel which just jumps from game to game when something good is happening so you dont have to sit through all those boring bits and ads. They have cannibalised their own telecasts and if you've ever watched the Redzone its the worst way to invest in a sport ever.

Basketball: well, just go watch the final '2 minutes' of any NBA game and see how 'exciting' it really is. Team timeouts, intentional fouls, TV timeouts. It ruins the spectacle down to games only being 'good' if theres a buzzer beater. The NBA has the equivalent of Peak Barcelona dominating the sport AND arguably the greatest player ever to live playing at the same time and the Americans hate it because its not exciting enough.

Now, soccer being the 'sleeping giant' in America thinks it can muscle into some heavily protected territory by stretching games out longer, making it even more tedious?

The advantage soccer has at the moment is that games start on time, and are over in less than 2 hours. All the other sports evny that position, yet FIFA thinks Americans (and other 'sleeping giants' like India and China) are gonna go for it?

Madness.

Baseball is totally controlled by the broadcasters. What the rule book states for a strike zone and what umpires are forced to call a strike are two entirely different beasts. The reason being that the Harvard MBA's wanted to turn the game into a HR contest to make it more exciting. Pitchers cannot throw a full nine innings anymore because of the changes and as a result the bull pen gets a lot of work from not only a starter, but middle relievers, and then one or more closers until the fireman comes in to finish the game. But it's great because it allows more breaks and more time for ads........

NFL I'm told used to be a lot faster before TV got a hold of it and made it into something that drags on far too long for what is essentially a 60 min game.

The good side is that it creates a hell of a lot of jobs for people in many sectors of the economy / community.

The bad side is that the mighty dollar sucks the heart and soul from the game ?

I don't really care too much about NFL or Basketball chasing the dollar - but baseball is so much more than either of those sports will ever be to the American culture - or what's left of it I guess.

You want to fix baseball - make umpires call the zone as per the rule book. Problem solved.

[Jetmaster]

I used to be an NRL member and watched several games most weekends. Apart from the boofs playing it, they just tinkered and played with the rules and they still are because once you start you can't get it right.

T20 cricket is now made for the "eat and run" crowd and TV bogans. The rules are designed to suit. And things keep changing in cricket - huge opening ceremonies and last night they were broadcasting the third umpire over the loudspeakers at the ground.

I no longer watch NRL and don't watch T20 at all. They are made for TV and if football goes down this path it will go too. One of it's great claims was that you could throw a few jumpers in any park and play a game anywhere in the world.

Just leave it alone and only tweak where needed.

[belchardo]

NFL
An average professional football game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes



holy crap! i knew not a lot went on, but that is just plain crazy!

[Jeterpool]

I used to be an NRL member and watched several games most weekends. Apart from the boofs playing it, they just tinkered and played with the rules and they still are because once you start you can't get it right.


I cannot agree with this enough.

I don't understand why these rules need to change. Don't create new rules to fix the ones you aren't enforcing correctly in the first place.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I thought it must have been an article taking the piss. Some of those suggestions were hilarious.
Some of the ones I don't mind:
- only blow full time when the ball goes out of play.
- enforcement of the 6 seconds for goalkeeper
- clearer and more transparent stoppage time
- clearer definition of handball

What I'd like:
- sort out the offside rule so it's a bit more clear cut


Portugal had a goal overturned by VAR this morning. Player was offside in the immediate build up. I didn't see it live, so I'm not sure how quick the decision was. In the end, it eliminates the controversy.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/melbourne-city-fc-announce-warren-joyce-as-head-coach/8obir28yhd4b17r3akqfpdr9d

Huge.

[plague]

http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/melbourne-city-fc-announce-warren-joyce-as-head-coach/8obir28yhd4b17r3akqfpdr9d

Huge.

Yeah the City fans have been rejoycing all morning.

[plague]

Inevitable though, it was only a matter of time before they made Joyce Mayne man at that club.
He's earned it.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Yeah the City fans have been rejoycing all morning.

all 5 of them?

To be fair, it's a pretty good Joyce.

[MonkeyKplunk]

Shows what kind of talent you can attract when you're owned by an EPL Club

[plague]

Shows what kind of talent you can attract when you're owned by an EPL Club

Don't you mean, the kind of talent you can attract 'when you look'?

[MonkeyKplunk]

1454

[The Dunster]

English managers don't have much success in the A-league and I can't see Joyce being the exception. Poor bloke will shit himself when he sees the dross he will be forced to work with. The look on his face when he learns about the salary cap and limit on foreign players will be priceless.

[MFKS]

English managers don't have much success in the A-league and I can't see Joyce being the exception. Poor bloke will shit himself when he sees the dross he will be forced to work with. The look on his face when he learns about the salary cap and limit on foreign players will be priceless.
English managers are that shit they can't even get a run in their own ****ing country

Have a look at any useful British Manager in recent times they not from England

That why ****wits like Allardyce Hodgson get the England job

Dearth of options

FFS what the **** has Southgate done to get the NT gig??

Failed in the EPL is about it

This bloke though is well respected in England as a good coach of Yoof at Man U but that means **** all when it comes to managing a first team

[Guerny]

Lucky CFG sent him out here to develop more Mooys to send back to the merry old england then!

I doubt they care how that development team they bought in Australia finishes up on the actual ladder...

[ForeverRed]

Wait until he sees some of the pitches we play on, could get embarrassing

[MFKS]

Lucky CFG sent him out here to develop more Mooys to send back to the merry old england then!

I doubt they care how that development team they bought in Australia finishes up on the actual ladder...

That probably precisely why they got him here

Develop players to send to Man City and then loan out into European clubs as they done with Mooy and put them in the shop window for a sale

Sell one every couple of years for some decent coin as they will do with Mooy and it will eat into the costs of running the shit club

[The Dunster]

Song Jin-Hyung now a free agent and looking for a new club.

https://twitter.com/KORFootballNews/status/874791084332687362

[MonkeyKplunk]

English managers are that shit they can't even get a run in their own ****ing country

Have a look at any useful British Manager in recent times they not from England

That why ****wits like Allardyce Hodgson get the England job

Dearth of options

FFS what the **** has Southgate done to get the NT gig??

Failed in the EPL is about it

This bloke though is well respected in England as a good coach of Yoof at Man U but that means **** all when it comes to managing a first team

Well if Member says he's shit, it must be true

[Jetmaster]

TBH - if the Jets signed up the exact same guy, the foz would be in meltdown about "lack of ambition", "another Englishman", "Wigan ffs", "what has he done apart from be an assistant" :blah:

[MFKS]

TBH - if the Jets signed up the exact same guy, the foz would be in meltdown about "lack of ambition", "another Englishman", "Wigan ffs", "what has he done apart from be an assistant" :blah:

Nah Managers usually get 4 games grace

You watch.

Bert is a loveable bloke at the moment

Come November blokes will be on here wishing we signed Steve Kean

Honeymoon for Bert ends when the season starts

[Roundball Enthusiast]

As expected.

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/06/20/former-victory-defender-ansell-signs-portuguese-primera-liga-side

[Bremsstrahlung]

Nah Managers usually get 4 games grace

You watch.

Bert is a loveable bloke at the moment

Come November blokes will be on here wishing we signed Steve Kean

Honeymoon for Bert ends when the season starts

You're mate Jones got a season.

[Jetmaster]

Vuka leaving Smurfs.m

http://www.socceroos.com.au/article/caltex-socceroos-gloveman-danny-vukovic-to-join-overseas-club/61su38d07z751wgnm7mynyd76

[Jeterpool]

Vuka leaving Smurfs.m

http://www.socceroos.com.au/article/caltex-socceroos-gloveman-danny-vukovic-to-join-overseas-club/61su38d07z751wgnm7mynyd76

High 5 Danny

[Roundball Enthusiast]

http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/central-coast-mariners-sign-ben-kennedy-after-passing-medical/7jigxmok8n8t19esi8yqzlz76


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Enjoy that gypo scum. Oh its going to be a good derby this year. Maybe.

[MFKS]

http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/central-coast-mariners-sign-ben-kennedy-after-passing-medical/7jigxmok8n8t19esi8yqzlz76


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Enjoy that gypo scum. Oh its going to be a good derby this year. Maybe.

Bloke looks fitting in a Gypo shirt actually

Finally we rid of him

Thank ****

[turbojetfireV8]

povvo bastards haven't even got a keeper's shirt for him to hold up... gotta leave a empty feeling deep down inside having to humiliate yourself holding up that gyppo rag and pretending to smile, feel sorry for him...

[turbojetfireV8]

Vuka leaving Smurfs.m

http://www.socceroos.com.au/article/caltex-socceroos-gloveman-danny-vukovic-to-join-overseas-club/61su38d07z751wgnm7mynyd76

can't wait to hear it's Man City and he's being loaned out to Melb City next season...

[Jetmaster]

Bloke looks fitting in a Gypo shirt actually

Finally we rid of him

Thank ****

Still love BK...the battler's prince. Fully expect a MOM against us. Will laugh.

[StannyCFCJET]

Still love BK...the battler's prince. Fully expect a MOM against us. Will laugh.

Its written in the stars, Hoole will score as well. BK was never as bad as everyone thought he was I wish him well.

[MFKS]

Its written in the stars, Hoole will score as well. BK was never as bad as everyone thought he was I wish him well.

****ing Gypo sympathiser

[StannyCFCJET]

****ing Gypo sympathiser

If a player leaves and always treated the club and the fans properly then he gets no hate from me. Hoole on the other hand hope Kanta smacks him from behind with one of his trademark tackles

[lquiquer]

If a player leaves and always treated the club and the fans properly then he gets no hate from me. Hoole on the other hand hope Kanta smacks him from behind with one of his trademark tackles

You still go down as a ****ing Gypo sympathiser.... ex Jets don't sign for Gypos that's my rule... I would never sign for l'OM... (Not that I could play but beside the point)

[Couscous]

I stand with the Member. Say no to gypsies.

[plague]

who cares that the gypos have signed a 30 year old keeper with no A-League experience.

waste of time debating it.

move on.

[tomo]

can't wait to hear it's Man City and he's being loaned out to Melb City next season...

Pretty sure he's gone to Genk in Belgium

[lquiquer]

who cares that the gypos have signed a 30 year old keeper with no A-League experience.

waste of time debating it.

move on.

I care... and I prefer to refer as BK and Hoole as ****s and emphasing the point again and again than debating birds... but hey we all different...

[plague]

I care... and I prefer to refer as BK and Hoole as ****s and emphasing the point again and again than debating birds... but hey we all different...

oh man.

[belchardo]

oh man.

the birds have gotten to him...

[MFKS]

You still go down as a ****ing Gypo sympathiser.... ex Jets don't sign for Gypos that's my rule... I would never sign for l'OM... (Not that I could play but beside the point)

We can even import blokes who understand this valuable concept about what it means to be Newy yet we have your EPL fan boy type fans going no it alright some Newy lads signed for the Gypos

Just don't get that it never OK to sign for those ****s

Raheem and BK = Traitors

[Jeterpool]

There have been 6 players who have played for both teams in the F3 Derby - Reddy, Boogaard, Petrovski, Hearfield, Spencer and Flores.

While some have come from the Mariners directly to the Jets (Petrovski, Spencer, Flores), nobody had ever gone from the Jets directly to the Mariners in the 12 years of the A-League. Now we have 2 in the space of a season.

[pv4]

There have been 6 players who have played for both teams in the F3 Derby - Reddy, Boogaard, Petrovski, Hearfield, Spencer and Flores.

While some have come from the Mariners directly to the Jets (Petrovski, Spencer, Flores), nobody had ever gone from the Jets directly to the Mariners in the 12 years of the A-League. Now we have 2 in the space of a season.

What about Matt Nash?

[Jeterpool]

What about Matt Nash?

Never played against the Jets for the Mariners. As I said "players who have played for both teams in the F3 Derby "

[pv4]

Never played against the Jets for the Mariners. As I said "players who have played for both teams in the F3 Derby "

Sorry I was asking if he went to CCM directly from the Jerks

EDIT:

http://aleaguestats.com/ALeagueStats_25Players_311.html

I have no idea what he did for 2 years though.

[leftrightout]

You can add Odonovan to that list this year too, another to come from Gypos to us.

[Jeterpool]

You can add Odonovan to that list this year too, another to come from Gypos to us.

For sure. Didn't in case he went all "Jason Culina" on us ha ha

[Jeterpool]

Sorry I was asking if he went to CCM directly from the Jerks

EDIT:

http://aleaguestats.com/ALeagueStats_25Players_311.html

I have no idea what he did for 2 years though.

No problem.

[MFKS]

Sorry I was asking if he went to CCM directly from the Jerks

EDIT:

http://aleaguestats.com/ALeagueStats_25Players_311.html

I have no idea what he did for 2 years though.

From memory he ended up back in the Sydney NPL comp

[MFKS]

Just got an email from the club hammering on about getting me to pay some cash to watch these shit ****s play this up coming season

$160 for general admission on the hill

Not that it effecting me but is it creeping up in price ??

[The Dunster]

Just got an email from the club hammering on about getting me to pay some cash to watch these shit ****s play this up coming season

$160 for general admission on the hill

Not that it effecting me but is it creeping up in price ??

I got the same e-mail so printed it out for the cat to use. Can confirm even the cat wouldn't piss on the jets.

[Jeterpool]

Prices were frozen for this season. Mine is the same price (silver)

[MFKS]

Prices were frozen for this season. Mine is the same price (silver)
Prices frozen well that sort of reflects our shitful form which has been frozen for near on 10 years

[Jeterpool]

Prices frozen well that sort of reflects our shitful form which has been frozen for near on 10 years

Boom-tish

[lquiquer]

Just got an email from the club hammering on about getting me to pay some cash to watch these shit ****s play this up coming season

$160 for general admission on the hill

Not that it effecting me but is it creeping up in price ??

****s should ****ing pay us to watch them play

[Jetmaster]

KPI should be set on ticket prices being linked to table position.

[MFKS]

KPI should be set on ticket prices being linked to table position.
Our only KPI required is to be a better functioning football club than we were last season

Can do that and we moving forward

[The Dunster]

KPI should be set on ticket prices being linked to table position.

Should be open bar at home whenever they concede a goal.

[Jetmaster]

Can anyone confirm the goss going around social media that Hoole tried to use his Wikepedia profile as ID at Wallsend Diggers?

[plague]

Can anyone confirm the goss going around social media that Hoole tried to use his Wikepedia profile as ID at Wallsend Diggers?

Please don't do this.

[StannyCFCJET]

Can anyone confirm the goss going around social media that Hoole tried to use his Wikepedia profile as ID at Wallsend Diggers?

I heard he told them he was a Socceroo

[Jeterpool]

The tricks you pick up touring Europe

[Jetmaster]

Please don't do this.

Just genuinely curious Plague thats all.

[lquiquer]

Can anyone confirm the goss going around social media that Hoole tried to use his Wikepedia profile as ID at Wallsend Diggers?

The question is did he get in.... ??? Wiki was a bad idea considering no U18 no gypos policy at Wallsend Digger

[hawk]

Massive news

APM, Membahships are same price

$160 GA = 14 homes and 2 into stade browntongue = $10. Bargain if you dont care about results.

actually ok news

[Frodo]

Massive news

APM, Membahships are same price

$160 GA = 14 homes and 2 into stade browntongue = $10. Bargain if you dont care about results.

actually ok news

I never read the email in full, but i saw something about 22 games? Is it free entry to the W league home games?

[MonkeyKplunk]

I never read the email in full, but i saw something about 22 games? Is it free entry to the W league home games?

Correct.

[MFKS]

I never read the email in full, but i saw something about 22 games? Is it free entry to the W league home games?


Only because they taking the piss charging to watch the HAL side

They get done for fraud charging to watch the women play such is the standard

[hawk]

So watching 3rds Res and firsts is now considered 3 games. fk o0rf.

[turbojetfireV8]

Talking sponsors, does the nature of this one's business mean there is no cash involved in this deal?? http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/news-jets-receive-bartercard-boost/16e6eyjeva0ub12vfynmzugasv