Miller achieved 30 points playing a brand of football that convinced me not renew my Jets membership. Up until recently, Jones had the team at least playing a watchable brand of football. As soon as he started talking about tightening it up / clean sheets the teams started looking more and more like the dross served up under Miller every day.Originally Posted by Jeterpool
It's entertainment for me not so much about winning. These day's the foz's reaction to the games is more entertaining.
Last edited by The Dunster; 09-03-2017 at 02:23 PM.
That reference to Leicester in regards to what you are trying to say makes no sense. Saying the players "downed tools" means that ranieri could not get the best out of them (which you alluded to him being able to) and in fact that it was players that got the job done before they downed tools.
What if our players have "downed tools" this year but will pick them up next. The inverse of ranieri.
Also what do you have against Hoole he has certainly not been our second worst player.
Did someone mention the same Kenny Lowe that has on paper one of the most fearsome strikeforces in the league including a Johnny Warren medalist, a former Golden Boot winner, plus Andy Keogh who's scored 31 in 61, and yet still can't get them very far. FMD.
Dunster - Miller had a simple job after the Stubbins horror show for the first season without an owner. Make the team competitive again and stop embrasssing the city. He did that. The players that you are finding entertaining to watch are players he signed. None of us know what he would have done with this team. What we do know is that Jones has so far done nothing special, or even close to it. Lets see if he can even make 30 points first.
And some of you are acting like Miller signed all 25 players that he had in his first season.
Last edited by halo se7en; 09-03-2017 at 04:05 PM.
Yeh that was me bru.
And yep still back that claim. Was making comparisons between Lowe and Jones and our clubs as well. I'd like to see us stick with Jones like Glory did with Lowe. I stated he's not an amazing coach but got together a very decent playing group with good resources, support and recruitment techniques. He has an extremely well stocked attacking group but you'd have to say still needs work at the back. He has them competitive week in week out and scoring loads of goals. They are in a battle for third. I'd love for the Jets to get to this point.
But you must be in the same crew that thinks Miller would have won the league on a shoestring budget with players out of Iceland because he's a mastercoach.
In the end when are people going to realise that an excellent playing group supported by a no nonsense coach with a basic approach and large resources will go much further then a shit squad with a "decent" coach who knows how to talk the talk
I made no mention of Miller when I asked a legitimate question about whether Jones had it in him to build a good enough squad. No-one seems to be able to answer that question other than say 'he's not Miller' or 'give him time'. Do we know Lowe was behind Perth's recruitment? Salary cap breaches aside, its something they always seem to have been good at, and yet always underperform.
At no point have I ever said Miller would win the league, I've only ever said he dragged us out of the gutter and I wanted to see if he could build on last season. Obviously that chance has gone. I still want to see whether Jones has the ability to sign quality players, let alone steer them to top 6. Hey, even beating the Mariners once would be something.
How did that work for the Mariners? Their last manager said he wanted to play "entertaining" football, they got the spoon and ended up struggling to sign ANYONE to the club.
Jones is shit, he's done mediocre with probably the best squad we've had in 6 years. If we finish below the scum (likely), he has to go.
The Mariners problems are money related much like the Jets. Players are better compensated at bigger clubs and as such that's where players want to go.
With respect to entertaining football the Mariners crowds have been shit for a very long time - even when they were successful on the pitch with Arnold at the helm. Hard to gauge the effects though given the propensity for Mariners crowd numbers to be inflated in an effort to convince sponsors the club actually had a genuine following. I can recall crowd claims of 12,000 or more when BTS was pretty much empty.
As for Jones, I don't think he will be in the job beyond next season - and may be punted before that if the team doesn't show some improvement.
But to suggest this club is even capable of being a finals team on their current budget with the current squad is asking a lot. We don't have a top quality player in our squad, and we certainly don't have anyone remotely close to top quality and consistent - even in A-League terms. The clubs above us, and some below do have high quality players, some of whom are consistent as well.
I mean who in the Jets would regularly start for any of the top 6 teams ? I cannot think of anyone.
Last edited by The Dunster; 09-03-2017 at 06:35 PM.
Absolutely bull shit this is the best playing group we have had in 6 years
The season Taggart was on fire we had a better squad
The season Muppet ruined us we had a better squad
**** the season Heskey arrived we had a better squad
**** last year we had Leaky G Devonhead Birraz Leonardo and Milos who would all walk into the current starting 11
So to say Jones has had a great squad is a complete lie.
It probably the weakest in star power out of the last 6 years
Yep no one disputing that but this is a fact
Jones inherited this squad and other than signing some NPL project players to try and fill holes he has had **** all support from the club so far in regards to transfer policy
As the season comes to a close and the offseason arrives and new signings are announced which they will be then we will actually see him in action in the Transfer market
Until then you are using hypothetical speculation to stir shit as you have an agenda against Jones.
Nearly everything on here is speculation and opinion and open to interpretation. Your theory is only guess work as well. But thats what makes the foz great. opinions, theories and arguments that are all trying to the jets out of the shizer.
Biggest issue I have with Jones is his ability to recruit quality talent.
In December - we need to sign a few quality players, the budget is there, yadda yadda
Mid-January - Weak Ankles is suddenly our one hope and saviour
End-January - *crickets*
Middleby Gone
Lawrie Out
I don't think Jones is doing the negotiations to be fair. He will draw up a Istanbul of players. It's up to the back room staff to deliver
The Championship Chronicles - The Jetstream's review of the 2007/08 season. www.newcastlefootball.net/chronicles
I have nothing against him. I just want a coach who knows what he's doing. It's not rocket science.
And **** all support from the club? What are you basing that on? Speculation? At least Jones has an owner with funds.
No that where you wrong.
Everything i write on here is actually correct
The rest of youse are just plain in the wrong
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Bringing im a couple of NPL players mid season isnt exactly what i would call support from the clubin the transfer market
But that obviously impressed you so ....
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See this is where you are naive
Clubs when they are after players deal with agents.
Jones doesnt need to know every player personally
Agents drop players in clubs laps
How you think Raheem Sterlings agent planning on getting him a gig in Europe??
Dropping him in everyones lap and see if they get a bite
Jones will have enough quality players offered to him
It up to his ability as a judge of talent personality etc whether he chooses wisely
and the tennis thread.
Yo our squad is pretty decent guys.
Bout the seventh best in the league
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