Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
He is just a w@#k of a bloke and he wasn't as good as people make him out to be. Watch him play in an England Jersey and you can see how mediocre he really was when relied upon. 10 world cup games, zero goals or assists. And you can't say he didn't have anyone decent playing in the team with him. He was a very good player, but he isn't a Scholes, Viera, Keane, Makelele level midfielder.

Mostly I just don't want to imagine how much of a wankfest it'll be if he somehow gets Derby promoted. (Although it would be great to see him sacked after 3 months of loses.)

Side note: If Villa get promoted that Gypo won't be with them. He doesn't even play for them now, other than penalty shootouts. He has started 2 games since October last year. So I can take him out of the Villa situation in my own mind. I just assume Elmohandy grew his beard longer and can't run anymore.
Yeah over 10 seasons in the prem scoring over 10 goals and loads of assists as a midfielder means nothing? And you using the world cup as an example also shuns Gerrard and Scholes as they never had good world cups. Also the other players you mentioned play a different midfield role and comparing them is stupid. Compare Lamps to other attacking or further advanced midfielders and he slaughters almost all of them.

Don't even care if this is bait. At least make a good argument ffs