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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    What? Why the condescending attitude? Of course rego fees are used to pay for the refs. Here's a thought though, just like every other department within NNSW (or any business for that matter) the revenue they receive is used to cover their expenses. If that means fees to players and NNSW cut goes up a couple of bucks a year then so be it.
    Because your argument is illogical and amorphous.

    A quote from your previous post “question why it is not funded by the users of the service (players/parents via rego fees) rather than the providers of the service.”

    The players/parents pay the match fees via rego already (at least at npl levels, in inter-district I’m not sure as clubs used to be charged monthly for the referee services provided). As part of that, northern set the fees that they charge clubs for referees at 111.111% of what the referees get paid to cover this admin fee, hence when clubbies do it, they may get that full 111.111% of the match fees. Ie, for a game that refs get paid $90 for, NNSW charge the club $100 which includes the admin fee.

    As to if the entire department is covered by the revenue from game fees or not, I can’t say, but given the business that NNSW is in, does it matter if the referee department is fully covered by match fees or not? From what I can gather, NNSWF already has one of the highest investments in the referee department in the country, just look at who they’ve got as the high performance coach recently, so if your argument is that that money should be reinvested into the department, then we agree, but it’s quite clear they’re already investing in the department. Can more be done? Always, but they’re making a good effort at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    And no, they are not technically funding it, they are funding 90% of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mic22 View Post
    Getting rid of the 4 week pre-season cup could be a good idea.
    While I dont think we need to start much earlier and will always struggle with the heat if we do,the 2nd part of your post was the most poignant and the one thing we all seem to agree on.NNSW should just stick to the ppg rules they set out and get on with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    Yeah f*ck it, those pesky regional teams can do the long drive at short notice. No doubt the promised 60/40 split for home/away regional team games will be another NNSW over promise under deliver BS again.
    All regional clubs where informed they would be playing in Newcastle for the 1st round of phase 2 in the memo from Northern on the 21/5, id say thats decent notice?NNSWF MEMO 28-2025 SNIP.jpg

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    Getting rid of the 4 week pre-season cup could be a good idea. Clubs can organise friendly games before the start of the season if they want.

    Phase 1 would finish by mid-May, with a strict rule about PPG in case games can't be completed.

    This way, there would be plenty of time for a full 14 games phase 2 plus finals.

    The way this season has been managed is utterly disappointing: they identified a problem, set rules to solve it in case it happened, and then ignored their own rules.
    I don't understand why they mentioned "volunteer burnout", when PPG was actually the best way to avoid that?
    The easy solution would be to stop overcomplicating the season, start with 2 or 3 divisions, run it for the whole season with promotion relegation for the next year based of end of year club championship results.

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    Any reason why the draw for phase 2 hasn't been released yet?

    Top 8 in Div1 and bottom 8 in Div3 have been known for weeks.

    It would be great to know at least where/when we play next weekend. Too much to ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mic22 View Post
    Any reason why the draw for phase 2 hasn't been released yet?

    Top 8 in Div1 and bottom 8 in Div3 have been known for weeks.

    It would be great to know at least where/when we play next weekend. Too much to ask?
    Supposed to be out Wednesday.

    While the top 8 of div 1 was sorted and South Cardiff & Charlestown were a given, with the number of games Belswans, Toronto & Northern Inland had to make up, it wasn’t really as clear cut as you’d think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mic22 View Post
    Any reason why the draw for phase 2 hasn't been released yet?

    Top 8 in Div1 and bottom 8 in Div3 have been known for weeks.

    It would be great to know at least where/when we play next weekend. Too much to ask?
    Our club has been told its Wednesday.The next problem will be getting referees for these fixtures.The majority of referees being players means they cant be available to referee until they know when they are playing.Hopefully they get plenty of notice as well so the games go ahead with the least amount of hassle possible.

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    Youth fixtures are up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mic22 View Post
    Any reason why the draw for phase 2 hasn't been released yet?

    Top 8 in Div1 and bottom 8 in Div3 have been known for weeks.

    It would be great to know at least where/when we play next weekend. Too much to ask?
    Incorrect. Div 2 was still up for grabs until Saturday as Kahibah and Belswans could have taken fourth spot. After Saturday's round it was finalised. As it was a long weekend, the staff at Northern wouldn't have been back until Tuesday (yesterday). So yeah, I think you are asking too much.
    What was known was that the 3 regional clubs would travel for round 1. As to the rest of the clubs, what difference does it make? Singo would be the longest drive and that is about an hour. Hardly an inconvenience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter403 View Post
    Incorrect. Div 2 was still up for grabs until Saturday as Kahibah and Belswans could have taken fourth spot. After Saturday's round it was finalised. As it was a long weekend, the staff at Northern wouldn't have been back until Tuesday (yesterday). So yeah, I think you are asking too much.
    What was known was that the 3 regional clubs would travel for round 1. As to the rest of the clubs, what difference does it make? Singo would be the longest drive and that is about an hour. Hardly an inconvenience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mic22 View Post
    Ever been in a busy sport family?
    Saturday or Sunday, can make a huge difference. Planning is a constant challenge
    Yep. You roll with the draws that change an hour before the game without needing a tissue box. Grand parents back seat, kids in the boot gogogo
    fk ive missed some weddings due to football & cricket finals that got changed. Made the reception but. best things Ive ever done.
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    Croatia proving it?s not much of a jump. 10-2 aggregate against the 2024 GF winners, Suns haven?t been the same since the 6-0 trouncing. Croudace Bay will dispose of the aging mid table teams in 2026.

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    I see there are 5 PYL grounds without any referees this Sunday, I know the ref department can only allocate with the resources they have, but hopefully the clubs get onto this early so they are plucking parnt out of the crowd on the day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Game_over View Post
    I see there are 5 PYL grounds without any referees this Sunday, I know the ref department can only allocate with the resources they have, but hopefully the clubs get onto this early so they are plucking parnt out of the crowd on the day
    And I bet the shortage is evenly spread over all 3 groups...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter403 View Post
    And I bet the shortage is evenly spread over all 3 groups...
    FYI Theres 1 x Div 1,2 x Div 2 and 1 x Div 3 youth matchdays currently with zero referees allocated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Game_over View Post
    I see there are 5 PYL grounds without any referees this Sunday, I know the ref department can only allocate with the resources they have, but hopefully the clubs get onto this early so they are plucking parnt out of the crowd on the day
    How do you see what games do and do not have refs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swanky View Post
    How do you see what games do and do not have refs
    Refs who are allocated to games are sent the entire list of appointments in an email usually on a Tuesday.Im sure clubs are sent the same email.

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    put adult club ref in Most clubs are quite good. 2 clubs cannot be trusted & need adult male refs.
    Quote Originally Posted by MurderOnZidanesFloor View Post
    Croatia proving it?s not much of a jump. 10-2 aggregate against the 2024 GF winners, Suns haven?t been the same since the 6-0 trouncing. Croudace Bay will dispose of the aging mid table teams in 2026.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter403 View Post
    And I bet the shortage is evenly spread over all 3 groups...
    Only 1 in Div3 I'm sure it will be your club again.

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