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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmac79 View Post
    Yeh Ok, Where else in the world would players be able to play with such disregard for the team they play for?

    I don't mind the losing it's the not giving a shit that gets me. Birraz is one of those that don't give a flying ****.
    Not disagreeing with you in the slightest. But I reckon HAL in general is a good place for people that don't give a flying ****. Salary floor means shit players get overpaid so why would you try making a fist of it if you can be shit, not give a shit and get paid a shitload for shit all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmac79 View Post
    Nah. Birraz was lucky he had his giggling groupies at the shops with him the other day. Just seeing his smug face shopping at 12pm instead of being on the paddock fixing his **** ups made my blood boil.

    ****ing shape up or ship out.
    But his **** ups are not down to his inability to deal with the high ball at all.

    It is not his abilities with handling the ball in the air it is actually that are the problem it is actually his decision making that needs to improve. The decision when to come and when not to come. This unfortunately requires experience confidence and time to master. No couple of hour session during the week at training will fix it. All the training in the world this week on it ain't gonna fix it in a week

    He also gets himself into trouble when he tries to play as sweeper. Many times he comes when he shouldn't and gets caught short once again something that he will master in time.

    Last weekend he made the decision to come for a cross and I reckon the thing going through his head whilst the ball was half way across was FAAAAAAAARRRRRRRKKKKKKK. He knew he had made the wrong call well before it landed on Duras head. Problem was damage was done.

    You want to keep finding fault with the goal lets also examine our captains effort with the goal where he proceeded to stop running and gave up on the ball yet if he had kept going may have spared Birraz's blushes by winning the ball from Dura. No he just stopped still like he missed the bus going past and gave Dura a free header.


    Yep there were many who made mistakes last week but lets just hammer the keeper for ****ing up in the last minute when the game was already over despite his error doing damage only to those who had money on the Nix to win by 2 or by a 3-1 margin and not hold the rest of the side accountable with the same scope for their **** ups when the game was available for us to compete and win

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    I've got to challenge you on that Blackmac. While you may have gained that perception by the actions you've seen on the field, Birrighitti hasn't come out and said he doesn't give a shit. I will say, however, that as professionals they are watched intently and should be more aware of their behaviors and actions because it can be perceived in various ways whether that was their intent or not.

    Sure, we can talk about phase-gate again but we all know they were poorly chosen words and not the intent of the message he was trying to send to the fans.

    And lets be realistic- the bloke has to have a life outside football too. If he'd been out on the training field at 12:00pm the last few days I'd be questioning the mentality of the coaches training him in the middle of the day heat!
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    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    Birrighitti hasn't come out and said he doesn't give a shit
    Not phased.

    That's the only counter argument that needs to be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Not phased.

    That's the only counter argument that needs to be made.
    As I said, poorly chosen words and not the intent of what he was trying to say.
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    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    As I said, poorly chosen words and not the intent of what he was trying to say.
    Precisely. There was actually very little wrong with what he said with that tweet.


    All he said was he wasn't gonna allow the **** up V the Gypos get him down and wanted to move on from it.

    Problem is the way people are twisting it to suit an agenda by taking it in a certain context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Precisely. There was actually very little wrong with what he said with that tweet.


    All he said was he wasn't gonna allow the **** up V the Gypos get him down and wanted to move on from it.

    Problem is the way people are twisting it to suit an agenda by taking it in a certain context.
    Yep. A rightly so he was dropped for the next game and subsequently the rest of the season. He's since impressed and regained his position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    As I said, poorly chosen words and not the intent of what he was trying to say.
    I never let facts get in the way of keeping myself entertained while at work :yes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    As I said, poorly chosen words and not the intent of what he was trying to say.
    just like coming off his line and creating confusion with kew was a poorly chosen course of action that lead to the goal.... which was not his intention.
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    retreating from the free-kick instead of dominating his 6 yr box was a poor choose that lead to an uninteneded outcome.


    he ****ed up, his actions were held to account by fans, just like any other player, oe any other goalkeeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Precisely. There was actually very little wrong with what he said with that tweet.


    All he said was he wasn't gonna allow the **** up V the Gypos get him down and wanted to move on from it.

    Problem is the way people are twisting it to suit an agenda by taking it in a certain context.
    What is this? Sense from MFKS?

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    To be fair, what are players supposed to do when in sub-par form? They can't mope around on request. Let's just wait and see how it shakes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfMan View Post
    To be fair, what are players supposed to do when in sub-par form? They can't mope around on request. Let's just wait and see how it shakes out.
    It's been shaking out for four seasons

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    Point taken. But players are human, and have every right to display varying emotions at a given time. They can't be expected to hang their head in shame between games. Move on, learn from your errors and do better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfMan View Post
    Point taken. But players are human, and have every right to display varying emotions at a given time. They can't be expected to hang their head in shame between games. Move on, learn from your errors and do better.
    Thats not happening though....
    Go jetties

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    His attitude has been shit since the day arrived - that's why I don't support him.
    Before he'd even played a game for us he essentially said I can't get a game at Adelaide but Ben Kennedy is shit so I'll come to Newcastle where I'll be assured of a game due to being more marketable.

    But get used to him because while he's fooled a few here he's not fooling any overseas clubs.

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    Birighitti has the potential to be a great keeper. At the moment he is not top a league quality. He has his great moment and he has his bad.

    What the club needs is an experienced goalkeeper between the sticks to give the club more success and Birighitti could learn a thing or two. Someone like Galekovic as a minimal standard.

    Not sure birrazz would stick around long if we got someone like just mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Problem is the way people are twisting it to suit an agenda by taking it in a certain context.
    How the heck did this slip through the cracks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    How the heck did this slip through the cracks
    I think Fish has him on block so didn't see it. I just don't read the longer posts anymore.

    Don't know what the rest of your excuses are.
    Go jetties

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmac79 View Post
    I think Fish has him on block so didn't see it. I just don't read the longer posts anymore.

    Don't know what the rest of your excuses are.
    Que the inevitable long winding post that backtracks on the original post to basically say nothing at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by #fixsmithpark View Post
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