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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    Asking employees to have the same passion for their jobs as fans do for their respective clubs is going too far.

    It's this sort of thing that will drive an even bigger wedge between the players and the fans.
    As I ain't no plastic fanboi of some EPL side or other glamour Euro side as I only support this rabble of shite maybe some **** can enlighten me but from where I sit as a neutral watching world football events unfold that these highly paid EPL stars La Liga stars etc at least give the impression they are actually playing for their fans of their club for the 90 mins they are on the park (Balotelli excluded) regardless of how much of a mercenary they are with Transfers wage demands etc.

    Hell You could even argue from watching the HAL the other 9 teams their players at least show some degree of interest in embracing their fans and not snubbing them.

    Why are our blokes any different???

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    La Liga and EPL players are a higher class prostitute who specialise in making the fans feel like they actually give a **** - which they probably don't.

    Our players are the equivalent of an Islington street hooker that is full of aids, with bad teeth, and a box full of their last ten clients.

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    Question for Middleby, Baartz, Stubbins, and the players.

    Why do you hate Jets fans ?

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    All, the Sub-committee members are required to submit items for discussion to the Jets prior to the meeting.

    If you have a topic, related to membership, matchday experience or member engagement that you wish for us (i.e. GazFish, Furns or me) to submit please either post in this forum or PM one of us. If there is an issue, please post a suggestion on how you feel it can be resolved - this will be a big help!

    Given the anticipated number of agenda items, some items may be pushed to later meetings. However, we'll give you feedback on this.
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    - post game venue (what happened to the duke)
    - connections with fans throughout the season (there is a lack of)
    - pre-match PA, complete silence besides team announcement 20 mins from kickoff
    - member packs (there poor end of)
    - and the biggest one, why is the wanderers home game our biggest of the season, coast at home is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BodyNovo View Post
    - post game venue (what happened to the duke)
    - connections with fans throughout the season (there is a lack of)
    - pre-match PA, complete silence besides team announcement 20 mins from kickoff
    - member packs (there poor end of)
    - and the biggest one, why is the wanderers home game our biggest of the season, coast at home is.
    Thanks
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    A number of people have raised the membership packs contents as an issue. What I've taken from this so far is:

    * The lanyard isn't long enough. I personally liked the one that could clip the card off the end. Would people like this as a solution?
    * The fixtures need to be a magnet again, not the bit of paper like this year.
    * Would people like something instead of a scarf? or hat?
    * Members cards need to be thicker.
    * cards need to retain printing in chlorine environments (assuming the pool is chlorine, not fresh water)

    I haven't ever purchased a kids membership, so what are they like? They seem to get a backpack every year. Would something else be better? How about a football? pencil case for school?

    Thougths on this appreciated
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    Quote Originally Posted by sammydog View Post
    There needs to be a mechanism whereby whoever steps up, can be contacted by the "major stakeholder group" they supposedly represent and actually provide relevant feedback. The club could do this by giving a page on the website with a short blurb about each person and how to contact them (club email perhaps, no need for a phone number?). Honestly, if a person who steps up isn't willing to be contactable by someone who wants to raise an issue, then they shouldn't be there as they don't represent anyone but themselves and anything they offer won't be representative of the wider cross section of the crowd and members.
    I've put this (or something similar) forward.

    Will add it to my next email.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
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    orite - ive done a quick scan of the thread and with trying not to double on on stuff jeterpool has already noted, heers a list of ideas posted......I'm going to synthesise them a bit and group similar issues together and email them through on behlaf of everyone.
    theres some goos things in here - some massive chnages, some small ones, all that can have a positive impact o fthe club and its relationship with the fans...

    if your idea isnt on the list, let us know (ithasnt been missed intentiaonally)
    - if you want to flesh things out more please do, either in here or by PM - or on facebook if you want

    Im expecting the first meeting to be an overloaded agenda and to everything will ber discussed, but a genuine list of serious topics gives the group a serious starting pioint and can serve to demonstrate to the club the sheer volume of passion interest and supprt that exisst.


    1. There needs to be a mechanism whereby whoever steps up, can be contacted by the "major stakeholder group" they supposedly represent and actually provide relevant feedback. The club could do this by giving a page on the website with a short blurb about each person and how to contact them (club email perhaps, no need for a phone number?). Honestly, if a person who steps up isn't willing to be contactable by someone who wants to raise an issue, then they shouldn't be there as they don't represent anyone but themselves and anything they offer won't be representative of the wider cross section of the crowd and members.

    2. Beside that, first thing to push for is for a maximum length the members can serve on the committee for. Maybe a senate type arrangement where half are only appointed for the first year, then go to reselection for a new 2 year term, while the other 3 serve their 2 years, then reselection etc. Shouldn't become a monopoly for a few people to control for a long time.

    3. Better links with schools - football oriented PDHPE and HSIE units, it's the world game, we preach respect in football - there's direct links that can be made.

    4. Facilitating school gala days - in high school rugby league has a large presence, football needs the same.... A Jets Cup based on gala days not knockouts..... For yr3/4/5/6/7/8. Much of this happens for other sports because other sports get into schools better than football can afford to do.... But more can be done. ---- Schools are the biggest particpant base that are waiting to be organised. Youd be suprised how much football isnt played in schools today.
    Weekly PSSA football has dropped alarmingly due to the push for performing Arts and the huge female contingent now in primary schools that are not quite as passionate or more likely just havent the time to do this.
    Bit off the supporter base but growing the game, Maybe get the Jets on board to help lower rego fees u/6 to u/10 within the 3 local feds.

    5. Kit manufacturer - I'm yet to get a kooga/blk shirt, but the isc kit was so bloody uncomfortable, seek shirts people might want to actually wear.

    6. Keep E&C in our away kit permemantly.... I fear reading the current stufff that it might have not been a two season thing. At the evry least enageg with the supporterbase through online polls about kit changes and kit design compeitions.

    7. Increase communication about major decisions...... The eastern stand was shut, not reason other than "operations" was given..... If it's too expensive to staff it and clean it, just be honest and say so.

    8. I'd love to see the club increase merchandising targeted for families and kids such as cheap pencil cases, lunch boxes etc the nrl corner this market and football needs to get in on the act.

    9. Make the stadium (in know state venues run it) more "newcastle" the new stands feel very much like concrete buildings, I'd love to see the concourses behind the stands be covered with images of past newcastle glories, football and rugby league. There's lot of grey brick that could be red/blue, green/brown.

    make the Stadium more Newy. Not an Arsenal but When I went to Emirates wandered around the joint looking and reading about it's history. Was awesome. The fact there is no permanent reminder of '08 (or the Knights '97 and '01) is sad.

    10. Cut the entertainment. Football crowds want to see football not failed Aussie Idol contestants. Sync the Youth league/W League to play on same day to give customers 2 games instead of one. This can be done with all parties working together.

    11. Take the match entertainment budget and spend it on pop up bars/snackstalls for the pre match and half time rush. It's pathetic I can get a beer/water quicker at Emirates/Anfield/Yokohama stadium than at our place with 10k. use your leverage as tenant to demand change.

    12. would love it if at some point we looked at celebrating the Emerald & Cinnamon of the Newcastle flag. The history of the flag colours (given that the 35th battalion formed in 1915 it can be made as part of a centenary celebration) and the symbolism of the crest are quite interesting and still very relevant today. If kids could take the flags home and keep it might be a good education tool for them about their city/region.

    I think a lot of novocastrians are a bit ignorant of why E&C was chosen for the away strip. It would be good if the supporters, club mass produced the newcastle city flag to be waved at a game. I'm thinking a small soft plastic flag like those mini Australian flags people have on Australia Day.

    Maybe the Newcastle City Council or a sponsor could help subsidise the production of these, with a sponsor getting to print their name on the flag and the players could wear the Emerald and Cinnamon on the ground.

    13. Build a culture of no YELLOW – it kits, in merch, in any way associated with the club.

    14. permission to have people on the ground for after full time for kickz.

    15. online Q and A’s like we did a few times under GVE? both with Robbie and Stubbins and maybe Baartz


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    Quote Originally Posted by GazFish35 View Post

    Im expecting the first meeting to be an overloaded agenda and to everything will ber discussed, but a genuine list of serious topics gives the group a serious starting pioint and can serve to demonstrate to the club the sheer volume of passion interest and supprt that exisst.
    I think this will be the case too. If people can give some indication on here what they think are the big-hitters, the ones that are the most important issues, and if we need to establish a priority we are acting in the interest of the fans.

    For those interested, I've lodged the following. I have tried to avoid repeating what Gaz has raised, while raising those issues which have been raised with me directly.

    • It has been perceived by a number of members that the quality of the contents in the members (adult) kits is decreasing. For example, the list of fixtures used to be a magnet but this year was a flyer. The length and flexibility of the lanyard has decreased – people would prefer the style that are longer and have the clip removal section on the end as per a few seasons ago so they can wear it on their neck and remove it to swipe through the turnstile.
    • Can the contents of the adult kits be varied? Long serving members have accumulated a number of scarves and hats. While I don’t have the answer I’d be interested to see what others think.
    • The number of opportunities for engagement with the players is only at the annual pre-season fan day. In the past events at Lambton Park have also been held. Would the club look at doing more engagement of events for members to engage with the players.
    • Would the club consider a fan-designed kit as a competition to seek engagement? Proceeds from sales could go to a nominated charity, perhaps.
    • Members discounts – merchandise. $10 off is a good incentive to buy merchandise, however, if it was 10% off as it used to be, I’d be inclined to buy more – i.e. 2 new shirts this season have been released.
    • Members discounts – food and beverage. While I understand that Hunter Venues run the food and beverage at the stadium, could the club negotiate with the ground to offer season ticket holders a discount at the tills? This not only encourages people to become members but will more than likely increase sales because people would be more likely to buy food if there is a discount.
    • Away ticket prices suggestion – Could the club approach the FFA for a coordinated review on discounting away fan ticket prices for ticketed season members. The cost, for example, to support our team in Melbourne or Adelaide, where flights, transport, accommodation and food quickly adds up. However fans may be more encouraged to travel if the ticket price is subsidised and it rewards those of us who commit to a season of support as opposed to those who attend a few matches per season.
    • Matches against international club sides – this was originally flagged as an intention of the club. Is this still on the clubs radar or a direction the club are still wanting to head?
    • It is evident ticketed membership numbers have been reducing for the last few seasons. Has the club identified this as a risk to the organisation and have they developed strategies to address the downward trend? Are the club willing to share some of the strategies they are implementing to turn this situation around?
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    Big Issue Sort the shit out with that dickhead on the PA and **** the music off and **** off anything they do with the way the club ****s around with noise hindering NTUA.

    This needs to be got right.

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    What he said, And it needs to be played when the players are coming on the pitch, not 5 minutes prior.

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    Sounds like a full agenda. The only comment I would make about all this is that I think for the Supporters Forum to be useful, it has to encourage people to be stronger supporters and help the club to be stronger.

    I'm not a big one for asking for discounts on things unless there is a good business case that it will either be profitable to do it or that there is some other intangible benefit. I think the club would look favourably on ideas if they were aimed at bringing more people and money into the club, as well as strengthening the spirit around the club. Almost guaranteed that they would ignore ideas that are expensive without any tangible benefit to them.
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    OK, heres an idea.
    Stadium capacity is what 30k? we are currently getting 11K and at best 15k yeah? so thats a good 15-20K empty seats every week at our ground.
    Why not start to put the empty seats to good use and maybe actually engage in the football community a bit more.
    From next season (but the work would have to start now). Every day home game you take those 2 emabarassingly empty ex-squadron bays ((isnt there about 1,500-2000 seats there?) and give those tickets away.
    Not just to anyone, but you go to all the clubs in the NNSW area and say to them, "on this date (home game x) all of your under 6,7 and 8 teams are going to get one free ticket per player and 2 x adults tickets per team (coach/manager/chaparone). That would work out about 10 tickets per team, so we could accomodate 150-200 teams per home game.(Someone could easily get the numbers on how many 6/7/8 are registered in NNSW to divide up more accurately).
    if the club was really organised (yes, im a dreamer) they could even encourage the kids to wear their club colours to help promote the local teams and let them all do a lap around the oval at half time as a way to enhance their experience.
    what this does:
    engages jets with local clubs (put the onus on the local club to organise their kids they have all the relevant contacts anyway).
    fills empty seats with hopefully future season ticket holders.
    encourages parents to get (paid) tickets for the same game to see their kid do lap of honour.
    maybe makes fans for life of families who would maybe not have bothered.
    says thanks to the many parents who coach/manage/organise at a local level.
    maybe gets other families at the Jets games/at home watching thinking of getting their own kids involved in football.

    this is the bare bones of the idea but seriously, all we hear about is "community engagement" from this lot and what are really getting? a freaking sausage sizzle and the odd appearance on a thursday night at westfield (late nights are great times for young kids to meet their heroes).
    here is a way to get extra people (football people) directly involved in the Jets gameday experience. and what would it cost? the ground is open, the games are on anyway, and the individual clubs can do all the legwork to get their kids organised.
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    Great idea - i just sent it in.

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    Thats way too much effort for the club to deal with. You've just handed them an idea that really should've been implemented yonks ago. Nup sorry, nexxxxxt

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    Could be like the old maccas man of the match certificates. Throughout the season, give the junior clubs a game voucher to be redeemed come jets season. I guess there's many different ways to implement the idea.

    I do agree though, giving away tickets to juniors should have happened ages ago. Club will probably claim they give away enough to the half time "entertainment" kids.

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