Daily Australian News Thread 2017

[MonkeyKplunk]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/aleague-media-watch-clubs-walk-out-of-meeting-gillett-gets-grand-final-allianz-pitch-admission/news-story/d0868da5568f39932ae127361fc93345

That pitch at Allianz for last weekends game was an absolute joke for what is supposed to be the highest point of football in this country.
Every part of this ridiculous story this week highlights just how little some organisations understand the difference between field preparation for football vs league/union

The walkout by the HAL clubs from the meeting last night, demanding more that the 26% rise in their share of the TV deal, is an interesting one.
Are Gallop and the FFA serious about investing more of the money into grassroots and junior football? Have the clubs lost touch with that section of their community then, and are they focusing too much on profit vs developing the game?

[MFKS]

As for the pitch issues

Let's just point out Melbourne has Victree Heart Storm and the Melbourne rugby side there

They also have shit weather
Yet AAMI looks 1000x better than SFS who only have Smurfs Waratahs and the Roosters playing there

So what exactly is the excuse of the bloke running the pitch??

I think it also high time the ****ers stopped painting the pitch in advertising as well.

Can't be good for the grass getting painted for a sponsor then painted green afterwards all the time.

Ban all advertising on the turf
Field makings only

[Jetmaster]

As for the pitch issues

Let's just point out Melbourne has Victree Heart Storm and the Melbourne rugby side there

They also have shit weather
Yet AAMI looks 1000x better than SFS who only have Smurfs Waratahs and the Roosters playing there

So what exactly is the excuse of the bloke running the pitch??

I think it also high time the ****ers stopped painting the pitch in advertising as well.

Can't be good for the grass getting painted for a sponsor then painted green afterwards all the time.

Ban all advertising on the turf
Field makings only

Yes this is the point - ground like Hull and Wigan in England to a great job of managing multiple codes in bleak conditions (true they have undersoil heating). AAMI does a great job so it is not the traffic, it's the management of it. The problem is that Allianz is owned by the SCG Trust, dominated by eggball types. They don't care.

The advertising amazes me and kudos to FIFA for preventing it. Ads can be easily superimposed on a field now and you would struggle to tell the difference at home.

[plague]

Have the clubs lost touch with that section of their community then, and are they focusing too much on profit vs developing the game?

They are losing millions funding the league which can be argued is the biggest factor in developing the sport in this country.


But yeah, those greedy corporations and their profits and stuff.


Considering they are hamstrung in persuing alternate revenue streams by the governing body, let alone not fairly rewarded financially for making the finals, what the hell are they supposed to do to pay the bills?

[MFKS]

They are losing millions funding the league which can be argued is the biggest factor in developing the sport in this country.


But yeah, those greedy corporations and their profits and stuff.


Considering they are hamstrung in persuing alternate revenue streams by the governing body, let alone not fairly rewarded financially for making the finals, what the hell are they supposed to do to pay the bills?

See I don't see why the owners don't take the step of driving down wages

Let's face it the players have been bleeding them dry for 10 years

Income doesn't equal expenditure

So the players wages should be reigned into affordable levels

[The Camel]

Yes this is the point - ground like Hull and Wigan in England to a great job of managing multiple codes in bleak conditions (true they have undersoil heating). AAMI does a great job so it is not the traffic, it's the management of it. The problem is that Allianz is owned by the SCG Trust, dominated by eggball types. They don't care.

The advertising amazes me and kudos to FIFA for preventing it. Ads can be easily superimposed on a field now and you would struggle to tell the difference at home.

Hull etc in the UK have Desso Grassmaster pitches though. Which is a hybrid artificial/real turf system which keeps the pitch in much better condition than the likes of Allianz which is just grass.

[The Camel]

See I don't see why the owners don't take the step of driving down wages

Let's face it the players have been bleeding them dry for 10 years

Income doesn't equal expenditure

So the players wages should be reigned into affordable levels

Unfortunately the PFA has stopped this happening, you would think the PFA would be looking at ways to help the game grow so more professional spots were available and therefore they would have more members, but no, they are only worried about bleeding the game dry

[The Camel]

As for the pitch issues

Let's just point out Melbourne has Victree Heart Storm and the Melbourne rugby side there

They also have shit weather
Yet AAMI looks 1000x better than SFS who only have Smurfs Waratahs and the Roosters playing there

So what exactly is the excuse of the bloke running the pitch??

I think it also high time the ****ers stopped painting the pitch in advertising as well.

Can't be good for the grass getting painted for a sponsor then painted green afterwards all the time.

Ban all advertising on the turf
Field makings only

It was only 12 months ago that the surface of AAMI was completely falling apart as well. All the grounds in Oz needs to get the Desso or equivalent surfaces.

[plague]

Unfortunately the PFA has stopped this happening, you would think the PFA would be looking at ways to help the game grow so more professional spots were available and therefore they would have more members, but no, they are only worried about bleeding the game dry

You do know what the PFA stands for and who they represent right?

[plague]

See I don't see why the owners don't take the step of driving down wages

Let's face it the players have been bleeding them dry for 10 years

Income doesn't equal expenditure

So the players wages should be reigned into affordable levels

Good luck getting any quality in a club on an operating budget of $3m boss.

Because you're already hating on the players in the league. Cheaper ones gonna be better for you?

I'd rather let clubs grow the pie and afford better players.

[Jetmaster]

It was only 12 months ago that the surface of AAMI was completely falling apart as well. All the grounds in Oz needs to get the Desso or equivalent surfaces.

Agreed - why isn't this looked at? Probably cos the eggballers can't see the value. They would happily play in mud.

[The Camel]

You do know what the PFA stands for and who they represent right?

I do, but I could also see the value in them wanting the opportunity to get more members. They operate from membership fees. The more members they have the more influence they can push and grow themselves. Catch 22, what they are currently doing is killing growth of the game and therefore themselves.

[MFKS]

Good luck getting any quality in a club on an operating budget of $3m boss.

Because you're already hating on the players in the league. Cheaper ones gonna be better for you?

I'd rather let clubs grow the pie and afford better players.

They be the same shit players on 60k a year instead of being the same shit players on 150k a year

The wages of players in the HAL have been well above the line on the graph since day 1

It the owners picking up the tab of this largesse

Even now the FFA offering an extra 300k a year in wages next season

Which of our useless ****s deserve an extra 20k a year to be shite??

What is also absurd is that 300k would be better spent by the club's into their ****ing academies so generation next can play better than the shite we have like Raheem and Marc Warren and Leigh Brixham impersonating footballers

Not a cent extra should be going to the players

[The Dunster]

I do, but I could also see the value in them wanting the opportunity to get more members. They operate from membership fees. The more members they have the more influence they can push and grow themselves. Catch 22, what they are currently doing is killing growth of the game and therefore themselves.

No - membership fees have little if anything to do with it.. A monopolist increases price by restricting supply not increasing it. A good example is the Australian Medical Association who make it very difficult to become a doctor for this very reason. They also tie Medicare Provider numbers to Doctors / their members rather than to postcodes so as to increase their market power and ability to influence price.

Without the PFA though you would have the other extreme of what is known as a monopsony whereby you have many sellers [the players] and essentially only one buyer [the FFA]. In that example you would expect the countervailing power of the FFA to be greater than that of the players and prices/ wages would be drastically decreased.

[plague]

They be the same shit players on 60k a year instead of being the same shit players on 150k a year

Not a cent extra should be going to the players

You do realise your idea of football nirvana is already out there right?

You can just go watch that and you won't need to do all this ranting.

[MFKS]

You do realise your idea of football nirvana is already out there right?

You can just go watch that and you won't need to do all this ranting.

Where??

[Jeterpool]

Where??

Fifa 17

[plague]

Where??

NPL.

Except they have proper beer so it's even better than you're asking for.

[MFKS]

NPL.

Except they have proper beer so it's even better than you're asking for.

Those ****s are overpaid as well

[MonkeyKplunk]

Agreed - why isn't this looked at? Probably cos the eggballers can't see the value. They would happily play in mud.

Exactly my point earlier really.
League/Rugby doesn't rely on the pitch being in optimal condition for the game to function, Football does.
It's just that there are more teams in those codes to use the ground more often, so even with lower attendances the value is better.

[The Dunster]

Exactly my point earlier really.
League/Rugby doesn't rely on the pitch being in optimal condition for the game to function, Football does.
It's just that there are more teams in those codes to use the ground more often, so even with lower attendances the value is better.

The game was played on shithouse pitches for over one hundred years in Australia. It has only been in the last thirty or so years maybe less that we have seen flat grounds with an even covering of grass on them.

[Jetmaster]

Geez...just watch some 70s English First Division games to see what pitches used to be like.

[MonkeyKplunk]

What they USED to be like is beside the point.
We evolve, technology evolves, etc...

[Grimario]

What they USED to be like is beside the point.
We evolve, technology evolves, etc...

:brrr:

[Jetmaster]

What they USED to be like is beside the point.
We evolve, technology evolves, etc...

And players become overpaid and overprotected pussies - such is the modern world of football.

Watch the 1970 FA Cup Final and Replay for a reality check - poor surface, long ball and extreme violence.

I miss it - *sniff*

[The Dunster]

And players become overpaid and overprotected pussies - such is the modern world of football.

Watch the 1970 FA Cup Final and Replay for a reality check - poor surface, long ball and extreme violence.

I miss it - *sniff*

Agreed. Messi and C. Ronaldo would have shit themselves if they faced what Pele, Di Stefano, or Puskas had to back when yellow cards didn't exist. Sure you could get sent off but you'd practically have to kill someone back then to even get a caution.

And you never see any of the current players have a ciggy on the bench let alone at half time anymore ? Far too soft for my liking.

[Jetmaster]

And imagine Ronaldo taking on Gentile in 1982 when Maradona was "the human pinball".

[The Dunster]

And imagine Ronaldo taking on Gentile in 1982 when Maradona was "the human pinball".

Absolutely. He would have owned Ronaldo. Too smart and too tough. Probably the greatest defender of all time - or top five at least.

[turbojetfireV8]

Looks like there's an article on Musialik in today's Weekender in the Newcastle Herald

[turbojetfireV8]

Sorry, main part of the Herald not the Weekender, p4-5

[Damo Lovelock]

Here's the link - http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4641865/the-other-side-of-stu-musialik/

[Jetmaster]

Good read....knew some of but not all of it.

[plague]

This is the exact type of person the club needs around it.

**** the Jets for ever letting him walk.

Such a great player.

[MFKS]

What is it about sportsmen being in Newy and drugs??

They live in the finest place on the planet for a start

Why they need the drugs for??

[plague]

What is it about sportsmen being in Newy and drugs??

They live in the finest place on the planet for a start

Why they need the drugs for??


because they are awesome.


just spitballin?



oh, and its not just a 'Newy' problem.

[MFKS]

because they are awesome.


just spitballin?



oh, and its not just a 'Newy' problem.

Judging by the history of drug use with the local Drugby League team I would say it a very prevalent thing for Newy

[plague]

Judging by the history of drug use with the local Drugby League team I would say it a very prevalent thing for Newy

maybe go read up on the West Coast Eagles AFL team from the '90s.

They made the Knights look like amateurs.

[parksey]

What is it about sportsmen being in Newy and drugs??

They live in the finest place on the planet for a start

Why they need the drugs for??

making the best place in aus even better

[hawk]

maybe go read up on the West Coast Eagles AFL team from the '90s.

They made the Knights look like amateurs.

WC were Packed up by the Knights. lol trying to defend grubs

[Jetmaster]

Griff Jaffas...

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4645306/jaffas-secure-another-griffiths/?cs=305

[MFKS]

Griff Jaffas...

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4645306/jaffas-secure-another-griffiths/?cs=305

Is there some reason why he has to wait to June 1st??

If once he finished at WSW there no real reason why they couldn't sign off on a release and get him playing straight away

Is there some Northern ruling that you can't play new players until June 1 or something??

[Hunter403]

Griff Jaffas...

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4645306/jaffas-secure-another-griffiths/?cs=305

Lol, bet that will cost. Watch junior NPL fees go up!

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Is there some reason why he has to wait to June 1st??

If once he finished at WSW there no real reason why they couldn't sign off on a release and get him playing straight away

Is there some Northern ruling that you can't play new players until June 1 or something??

Pretty sure theres a FIFA wide rule something along the lines of you cant play for more than 2 clubs in the one season. Or cant move more than twice. Something similar.

[Jetmaster]

The rule that stopped Taggart playing for Perth end of last season.

[MFKS]

News in today

Rhys Williams to Victree
Brandon Borello is signing for some German 2nd Division Club
Smurfs have somehow kept Ninkovic by signing him as a Marquee next season

[goaliepersempre]

News in today

Rhys Williams to Victree
Brandon Borello is signing for some German 2nd Division Club Kaiserslautern
Smurfs have somehow kept Ninkovic by signing him as a Marquee next season

good tradition club, on some hard times. But sure to get some good game time.

[turbojetfireV8]

Herald stories on Merrrick appointment:

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/46...cs=306#slide=2

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/46...talent/?cs=306

NBN story:

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsernie090517.mp4

[furns]

Audio interview on EON Sports Radio
https://omny.fm/shows/eon-sports-radio/ernie-merrick-chats-to-the-final-bell-about-his-ne

[turbojetfireV8]

Please God let it not be to here... :wanker: http://www.a-league.com.au/article/transfer-news-foundation-player-shannon-cole-departs-western-sydney-wanderers/1nldonq8x72bz1xu3mp5awx2wu

[MFKS]

Please God let it not be to here... :wanker: http://www.a-league.com.au/article/transfer-news-foundation-player-shannon-cole-departs-western-sydney-wanderers/1nldonq8x72bz1xu3mp5awx2wu

Last I remember his agent is the same bloke who manages Raheem and has a pile of blokes at or previously at the club and is a local to Newy as well



So big chance he ends up here if he can't negotiate a deal with Athletico or Tottenham

So

[WolfMan]

Please God let it not be to here... :wanker: http://www.a-league.com.au/article/transfer-news-foundation-player-shannon-cole-departs-western-sydney-wanderers/1nldonq8x72bz1xu3mp5awx2wu

Looks like he's emulating Todd Carney in that 3rd pic of the header image....

[Jeterpool]

Please God let it not be to here... :wanker: http://www.a-league.com.au/article/transfer-news-foundation-player-shannon-cole-departs-western-sydney-wanderers/1nldonq8x72bz1xu3mp5awx2wu

Thankfully we have a number of players in that position already (regardless of the quality). Perhaps that will prevent it

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Michael Thwaite to Wanderers.
Bernie Ibini to Vancouver Whitecaps.

[turbojetfireV8]

Our trainwreck in review:

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/hyundai-a-league-season-review-newcastle-jets/tt67p3rz4xp7170v3rvt6ggvu

[Jeterpool]

I tuned into Air Crash Disasters on Fox last night thinking it was a review of our season...

[furns]

Our trainwreck in review:

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/hyundai-a-league-season-review-newcastle-jets/tt67p3rz4xp7170v3rvt6ggvu
Summed up in an hour and 20 minutes on our season review podcast :)

If you would like something a little more concise, this pretty much encapsulates it:

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dumpsterfire.png

[plague]

Why not just cut and paste the last 7 end of year reviews?

[Couscous]

I enjoyed this article.

Economics shoots ... and scores! Solving the penalty shoot-out tragedy (http://www.theage.com.au/comment/economics-shoots--and-scores-solving-the-penalty-shootout-tragedy-20170510-gw1nsb.html)

http://www.theage.com.au/content/dam/images/g/v/z/v/l/0/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.gw1nsb.png/1494397304865.jpg

Swapping the order of extra time and penalties will increase goals and reduce personal trauma.

[hawk]

that means pens in every drawn knockout match. Awesome, i love pens

[Jeterpool]

Why not just cut and paste the last 7 end of year reviews?

Because we'd have to edit the name of the coach

[MFKS]

I enjoyed this article.

Economics shoots ... and scores! Solving the penalty shoot-out tragedy (http://www.theage.com.au/comment/economics-shoots--and-scores-solving-the-penalty-shootout-tragedy-20170510-gw1nsb.html)

http://www.theage.com.au/content/dam/images/g/v/z/v/l/0/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.gw1nsb.png/1494397304865.jpg

Swapping the order of extra time and penalties will increase goals and reduce personal trauma.

Why is it a tragedy??

Take last Sunday's game

Neither tards or Smurfs done enough to win the game in normal time

They never done enough in extra time either

**** em

Pens it is.

They both chose the negative philosophy to avoid losing first

Why is it a problem if it comes down to luck??
Arnold and co and Muscat and co chose that option

So where the problem??

[StannyCFCJET]

According to herald all off contract players bar Kanta have been told their not wanted

[borat]

Bymora has been offerered a scholarship, which at min wage, is effectively the same as a contract extension.

[MonkeyKplunk]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4653904/kantarovski-survives-jets-cleanout/

[MFKS]

According to herald all off contract players bar Kanta have been told their not wanted

WTF

How the **** did Kanta get a new ****ing deal??

****ing insane

Only in Newy

FMD

[StannyCFCJET]

WTF

How the **** did Kanta get a new ****ing deal??

****ing insane

Only in Newy

FMD

Doesnt say new deal pretty sure but Merrick will decide in Kanta me thinks

[furns]

Kanta remains in the frame because of the home grown player salary cap exemptions and because we cant keep Poljak in a visa spot.
He hasnt been signed yet, hes just not been given the farewell handshake.
Although that article says we are also chasing Milligan, if we land him I wouldnt expect Kanta to stay either.

[steve136]

Kanta is absolute trash. Blows my mind we would consider keeping him. I don't care about exemptions - no use having a player that is not A-league standard.

[lquiquer]

Kanta is absolute trash. Blows my mind we would consider keeping him. I don't care about exemptions - no use having a player that is not A-league standard.

agree :wacko:.....#BernieSkerrickOut

[tomo]

Kanta remains in the frame because of the home grown player salary cap exemptions and because we cant keep Poljak in a visa spot.
He hasnt been signed yet, hes just not been given the farewell handshake.
Although that article says we are also chasing Milligan, if we land him I wouldnt expect Kanta to stay either.

So if we were to land Milligan, where would you's all like to see him play? MC, DM or DC?
Id like to see him as DM

[furns]

So if we were to land Milligan, where would you's all like to see him play? MC, DM or DC?
Id like to see him as DM
Midfield two of Stevie UG and Milligan :fap:

[StannyCFCJET]

Midfield two of Stevie UG and Milligan :fap:

OMFG YES times 1000 :fap::fap:

[Couscous]

Hi Member! Perhaps read the article?


Why is it a tragedy?

Because the shift from open play to shoot-out means it's no longer "a team contest". That is, our special game changes fundamentally, from being a team sport to an individual sport, to an extent.

Also, shoot-outs put "extreme pressure on individual penalty takers, who may suffer major psychological trauma if they miss".


They both chose the negative philosophy to avoid losing first

Yes. That's a result of loss aversion. The suggested change would "increase the likelihood of a goal in extra time by 45 to 60 per cent. It "would therefore reduce the proportion of tedious games with scoreless extra time by half, from 50 to 25 per cent."


Why is it a problem if it comes down to luck??

The "luck" of the shoot-out isn't the problem. See above.


So where the problem??

There's no problem that must be fixed. But this is a clever way to improve the game.

[MFKS]

Hi Member! Perhaps read the article?



Because the shift from open play to shoot-out means it's no longer "a team contest". That is, our special game changes fundamentally, from being a team sport to an individual sport, to an extent.

Also, shoot-outs put "extreme pressure on individual penalty takers, who may suffer major psychological trauma if they miss".



Yes. That's a result of loss aversion. The suggested change would "increase the likelihood of a goal in extra time by 45 to 60 per cent. It "would therefore reduce the proportion of tedious games with scoreless extra time by half, from 50 to 25 per cent."



The "luck" of the shoot-out isn't the problem. See above.



There's no problem that must be fixed. But this is a clever way to improve the game.
Clever way to improve the game ?? Yes they said that about video technology. Look at how BS the VAR is

As for the rest of it we talking stats .

This been done to death with Plague holding court and we agreed stats mean **** all

[plague]

make the goals bigger, like, all the way across the goal line.
50 ****ing meters wide, and as high as AFL goals.

heaps of goals then.

problem solved hey.

[plague]

but you all seem to be happy with throw ins huh?

[baldrick]

but you all seem to be happy with throw ins huh?


Hate em. Should be a kick in instead.

[borat]

There is zero chance we are landing Milligan.

He is on massive petrodollar contract right now at Baniyas, which would mean surely only a marquee contract would bring him home. And Merrick is on record today as saying he wants a marquee #10, as opposed to unknown sources with this mystery list.

IMO we will probably sign 1 marquee player, a couple of experienced heads and some more up and comers.

[De-Champ]

Kanta remains in the frame because of the home grown player salary cap exemptions and because we cant keep Poljak in a visa spot.
He hasnt been signed yet, hes just not been given the farewell handshake.
Although that article says we are also chasing Milligan, if we land him I wouldnt expect Kanta to stay either.

NBN news stated Kanta offered one year deal

[lquiquer]

There is zero chance we are landing Milligan.

He is on massive petrodollar contract right now at Baniyas, which would mean surely only a marquee contract would bring him home. And Merrick is on record today as saying he wants a marquee #10, as opposed to unknown sources with this mystery list.

IMO we will probably sign 1 marquee player, a couple of experienced heads and some more up and comers.

On petro$$$ yeah but his club finished last hence relegated.... if he wants to go to Russia then playing next year in UAE second division might not be a very good idea....

[MFKS]

On petro$$$ yeah but his club finished last hence relegated.... if he wants to go to Russia then playing next year in UAE second division might not be a very good idea....

It's alright FFA will most likely allow a 4th Marquee to bring him home to one of the Sydney or Melbourne clubs

[MFKS]

Kanta is absolute trash. Blows my mind we would consider keeping him. I don't care about exemptions - no use having a player that is not A-league standard.

Considering we got like 6-7 spots in the 23 to fill wasting one in this bloke is a dumb idea and criminal

Merrick is aware we have enough shit players already and he needs to be getting rid of the below par players not bringing them to the club??

[tomo]

There is zero chance we are landing Milligan.

He is on massive petrodollar contract right now at Baniyas, which would mean surely only a marquee contract would bring him home. And Merrick is on record today as saying he wants a marquee #10, as opposed to unknown sources with this mystery list.

IMO we will probably sign 1 marquee player, a couple of experienced heads and some more up and comers.

Why cant we have 2 marquees tho? Milligan one, #10 the other?

Im thinking we're a good chance of getting Carrusca. Id rather see us aim higher for a #10, but he's still a decent player. Better than what we have at the moment

[StannyCFCJET]

NBN news stated Kanta offered one year deal

Typical Jerks dont perform hey here is a new contract?? Ohhh your injury prone even better

[WolfMan]

Hate em. Should be a kick in instead.

That's...actually not a bad idea.

Teams would be much less likely to kick the ball over the sideline if they knew it would result in essentially a very wide free kick.

All this video technology rubbish, and a simple idea like this one could be the most effective.

EDIT: But I guess then you would introduce the ploy of trying to boot the ball off a defender in an attacking position to get this wide free kick....

[leftrightout]

That's...actually not a bad idea.

Teams would be much less likely to kick the ball over the sideline if they knew it would result in essentially a very wide free kick.

All this video technology rubbish, and a simple idea like this one could be the most effective.

EDIT: But I guess then you would introduce the ploy of trying to boot the ball off a defender in an attacking position to get this wide free kick....

The only way it is an OK idea is if he is being paid SFA and even that is outside the salary cap, as he is a local player or whatever that rule is now.

[MFKS]

That's...actually not a bad idea.

Teams would be much less likely to kick the ball over the sideline if they knew it would result in essentially a very wide free kick.

All this video technology rubbish, and a simple idea like this one could be the most effective.

EDIT: But I guess then you would introduce the ploy of trying to boot the ball off a defender in an attacking position to get this wide free kick....

I remember the discussion of kicks in comes up regularly

I not in favour of it as it just becomes another set piece

The players won't play it short to retain posession they will just hoof it into the mixer

Then the ref will do the usual and ping the attacking team for shirt pulling and the whole play comes to a standstill for another FK

[Hunter403]

Free kicks for throw ins? Only if it is applied fairly. I propose that only Sydney and Melbourne teams can trial this. Everyone else sticks to throwing it. That keeps the competition level.

[Jeterpool]

Free kicks for throw ins? Only if it is applied fairly. I propose that only Sydney and Melbourne teams can trial this. Everyone else sticks to throwing it. That keeps the competition level.

Either way, Marc Warren is still stuffed.

[JCBT]

Why is it a tragedy??

Take last Sunday's game

Neither tards or Smurfs done enough to win the game in normal time

They never done enough in extra time either

**** em

Pens it is.

They both chose the negative philosophy to avoid losing first

Why is it a problem if it comes down to luck??
Arnold and co and Muscat and co chose that option

So where the problem??
Easy way to end the chance of many penalty shoot outs is in 2nd half of extra time start reducing the number of players on the pitch every 5 minutes till we have a 8 v 8. Start the 2nd half ET 10 v10, 110th min 9 v 9 & 115th min 8v8. End the period of extra time with 8 v 8 which will open the game up.

It's not perfect but it alleviates the concerns of whinging do-gooders that constantly complain about the penalty shootout. My opinion is leave it as is with penalties at the end of extra time or go back to the old style of having a rematch in 3 days time.

[Macca]

I don't like the idea of just seeing the teams continue to slog it out indefinitely until someone scores and for the same reason I don't like the idea of removing players from the field. You could see in the GF game most of the players were so fatigued in the extra time. The quality of the product was significantly less and I think this will continue to decline as the game becomes more and more demanding with players squeezing every ounce of athleticism for the regular 90 minutes.

I don't like shootouts personally as I feel its similar to having a tie in a running race and deciding it by having the contestants compete in a bike race. They do have the pros of creating plenty of drama and excitement I guess as well as guaranteeing a winner. From this point of view I can accept penalties a bit, as the teams have had a fair amount of time to decide it in the allowed playing time. Its almost like stepping in and taking it out of their hands and saying "Well if you guys can't create a result, we'll soon sort that out".

The penalties before the ET idea I like from a logic point of view and the dynamic of having one team chasing a result and another who are content with standings would definitely be interesting. However not sure about it emotionally. Maybe just flip a coin before ET and whoever wins the toss is declared the winner if scores remain level. Could even alternate it, ie. Team A wins toss and is the 0-0 winner, but if scores go to 1-1 then Team B is winner. Or a different option, whoever reaches the eventual tied score first wins.

I dunno. Stick with pens :thumbsup:

[Couscous]

Easy way to end the chance of many penalty shoot outs is in 2nd half of extra time start reducing the number of players on the pitch every 5 minutes till we have a 8 v 8. Start the 2nd half ET 10 v10, 110th min 9 v 9 & 115th min 8v8. End the period of extra time with 8 v 8 which will open the game up.

Nope. I reckon that'd worsen the loss aversion, and extra time would become even more defensively focused.

[Jetmaster]

Get rid of pens entirely, play extra time then a replay - stuff TV, surely a GF replay would raise more revenue for FFA?

I do like the idea of playing till a goal is scored, no matter what, a "timeless match". Sure it may come down to an error but it is about mental and phsyical toughness and will be down to the team generally. Would certainly be dramatic.

[goaliepersempre]

Leave it as it is..... FFS... Nothing wrong with current system.


**** the VAR too...

[borat]

Why cant we have 2 marquees tho? Milligan one, #10 the other?

Im thinking we're a good chance of getting Carrusca. Id rather see us aim higher for a #10, but he's still a decent player. Better than what we have at the moment

Of course we can if Mr Lee wants to stump up the money. But be realistic, it's not going to happen.

Merrick's first presser he specifically stated a marquee #10 and a few experienced players.

[borat]

Kanta remains in the frame because of the home grown player salary cap exemptions and because we cant keep Poljak in a visa spot.
He hasnt been signed yet, hes just not been given the farewell handshake.
Although that article says we are also chasing Milligan, if we land him I wouldnt expect Kanta to stay either.

This assumption that's passed off that Kanta gets re-signed because of the home grown allowance is complete bollocks. We save no more money than if we used the other allowances available.

Kanta gets re-signed because Merrick wants him. Unless we end up using both marquees.

[baldrick]

That's...actually not a bad idea.

Teams would be much less likely to kick the ball over the sideline if they knew it would result in essentially a very wide free kick.

All this video technology rubbish, and a simple idea like this one could be the most effective.

EDIT: But I guess then you would introduce the ploy of trying to boot the ball off a defender in an attacking position to get this wide free kick....

I was kinda joking about the kick ins...soz..

Football is 100% perfect exactly as it is

[borat]

On petro$$$ yeah but his club finished last hence relegated.... if he wants to go to Russia then playing next year in UAE second division might not be a very good idea....

Agreed but he isn't coming back to the HAL unless it's on marquee wages. Would go to the Victory not us

[Mark325]

Baba Diawara has re-signed with Adelaide for 2 years

[hawk]

I was kinda joking about the kick ins...soz..

Football is 100% perfect exactly as it is

And refs could do throw ins like afl, rof

[hawk]

Leave it as it is..... FFS... Nothing wrong with current system.


**** the VAR too...

turns out VAR is only to provide Syds and Melbs a way to allow a goal that was ruled out.

Stick to ball over the line, off sides and maybe handball. Everything else is subjective and fake diving

[Jetmaster]

Just thinking...

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4656011/knights-seven-jersey-attracts-top-attention/?cs=306

If this boof signs for the Knights does it mean his main squeeze, the lovely Tara Rushton, moves to Newy?

[plague]

If this boof signs for the Knights does it mean his main squeeze, the lovely Tara Rushton, moves to Newy?

Why?
You think it will improve your chances of wooing her away from him?

[Hunter403]

Why?
You think it will improve your chances of wooing her away from him?

Nah, but it will give him something do with his evenings when he stands outside her house drooling....

[Jeterpool]

Just thinking...

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4656011/knights-seven-jersey-attracts-top-attention/?cs=306

If this boof signs for the Knights does it mean his main squeeze, the lovely Tara Rushton, moves to Newy?

Mate, NZ Knights folded 10 years ago.

[Jetmaster]

Why?
You think it will improve your chances of wooing her away from him?

Mind outta the gutter.

It's off season mate - my mind was wandering at the thought of a Fox commentator actually living in Newy rather than Sydney.

[MFKS]

Mind outta the gutter.

It's off season mate - my mind was wandering at the thought of a Fox commentator actually living in Newy rather than Sydney.

Doesn't Harper live somewhere north of Newy??

I could have sworn someone said he lived up near Buladelah/Taree way

[football_macigian23]

Doesn't Harper live somewhere north of Newy??

I could have sworn someone said he lived up near Buladelah/Taree way

Yeah he lives at & plays for Nabiac!

[MFKS]

Yeah he lives at & plays for Nabiac!

Does he miss penalties for them too??

[Jeterpool]

Does he miss penalties for them too??

See now that's funny

[Jetmaster]

Geez I hope a local has video.

[Retro Jet]

Doesn't Harper live somewhere north of Newy??

I could have sworn someone said he lived up near Buladelah/Taree way


Yeah he lives at & plays for Nabiac!

Lives at Coolongolook actually...and that's from the horses mouth.
Bet he still misses the odd pen tho.

[Jetmaster]

Still loves the Smurfs....we forget he did work for them at the beginning.

Loved the comment from Sam Pang on their podcast this week....

"Not only did Victory have to beat the 11 men on the pitch, but the crowd was the 12th man and Hill and Harper 13th and 14th respectively."

[MFKS]

Still loves the Smurfs....we forget he did work for them at the beginning.

Loved the comment from Sam Pang on their podcast this week....

"Not only did Victory have to beat the 11 men on the pitch, but the crowd was the 12th man and Hill and Harper 13th and 14th respectively."

What man is Arnie's personal pom pom man Robbie Slater??

[northern_swan]

Lives at Coolongolook actually...and that's from the horses mouth.
Bet he still misses the odd pen tho.

https://youtu.be/YCLFXUk_AhA

I still haven't forgiven the c#*t

[plague]

https://youtu.be/YCLFXUk_AhA

I still haven't forgiven the c#*t

this is the greatest post in the history of the foz.
well done sir.
very well done.

[The Dunster]

Anyone know how much Harper's cut was from the bookies that night ?

[GazFish35]

Yeah he lives at & plays for Nabiac!

Wallamba FC.

[MFKS]

Anyone know how much Harper's cut was from the bookies that night ?

To me it about the penalties

On one hand you have a Muppet whose career highlight is this night where he ****ed Newy football

On the other hand you have a bloke for Parramatta putting it away and showing the composure and brilliance which he used at a later time to single handedly drag Newy football to its finest hour and then strike the dagger into the hearts of the Gypo scum forever and becoming a Newy legend

If anything Harper should be thanked for not ****ing up Griff's legacy

[Grimario]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/15/football-in-australia-as-big-as-its-going-to-get

[plague]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/15/football-in-australia-as-big-as-its-going-to-get


I didn't like this article.

Whinged about the 'problems' but never once mentioned Jet-shaped hats or making the goals bigger.

Typical Guardian clap trap.
They even weaved Trump into it.

Dear god these people are dickheads.

[Retro Jet]

https://youtu.be/YCLFXUk_AhA

I still haven't forgiven the c#*t

:gent:


Anyone know how much Harper's cut was from the bookies that night ?

More like the Knights...


To me it about the penalties

On one hand you have a Muppet whose career highlight is this night where he ****ed Newy football

On the other hand you have a bloke for Parramatta putting it away and showing the composure and brilliance which he used at a later time to single handedly drag Newy football to its finest hour and then strike the dagger into the hearts of the Gypo scum forever and becoming a Newy legend

If anything Harper should be thanked for not ****ing up Griff's legacy

And that f****ng air swing? Didn't even look like wanting to have a proper go.

Subject worthy of an off season thread imho.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/western-sydney-wanderers-transfer-news-roly-bonevacia-josh-risdon-and-michael-thwaite/news-story/f3e1666f74831c2269e575195c3bc980

[hawk]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/western-sydney-wanderers-transfer-news-roly-bonevacia-josh-risdon-and-michael-thwaite/news-story/f3e1666f74831c2269e575195c3bc980

ffs we could have done well with those. Well done jets back room mongs

[turbojetfireV8]

Apparently up to date:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/aleague-transfer-news-confirmed-ins-outs-squads-offcontract-list-of-every-aleague-club/news-story/ae4d03f058ce942a9cb8c26f3b540c47

[Frodo]

ffs we could have done well with those. Well done jets back room mongs

Agreed. That's 3 quality signings straight of the bat to fix 3 issues they had. Almost as if they have their shite together or something.

[Mark325]

Apparently up to date:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/aleague-transfer-news-confirmed-ins-outs-squads-offcontract-list-of-every-aleague-club/news-story/ae4d03f058ce942a9cb8c26f3b540c47

Interesting that the only name who is rumoured to go somewhere is FBK to the jets

[Roundball Enthusiast]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/western-sydney-wanderers-star-mitch-nichols-charged-with-cocaine-possession/news-story/01bd5d3c060e0ae53ca0416e289c47ae

Thanks Bitch Nichols for dragging Football into the pit of hell that is NRL/AFL's Drugs scandals..

[The Dunster]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/western-sydney-wanderers-star-mitch-nichols-charged-with-cocaine-possession/news-story/01bd5d3c060e0ae53ca0416e289c47ae

Thanks Bitch Nichols for dragging Football into the pit of hell that is NRL/AFL's Drugs scandals..

Well that explains his shit form over the last few seasons. It's a nasty drug as well and hopefully it's just a short term thing for him - because I watched a lot of good people destroy themselves on that shit over the past 40 years or so. And they all had one thing in common - they didn't think they had a problem.

[plague]

Dang, but the super sockah fairies told me only rugby league players did bad things.


I don't know what to believe anymore.

[q-money]

yeew sign him up lets get some bags

[The Dunster]

It's difficult to find anyone under 30 years old earning $200k or more that doesn't do coke. Apparently it's a lot cheaper now than in my day as well.

[Macca]

I'm with Dunster again, same as the League thread... police raid a nightclub and find a young bloke with drugs.. I bet he was also *shock horror* under the influence of alcohol at the time too. What a bloody hooligan, going to a nightclub, getting drunk and doing drugs. Don't know how he lives with himself.

[leftrightout]

I'm with Dunster again, same as the League thread... police raid a nightclub and find a young bloke with drugs.. I bet he was also *shock horror* under the influence of alcohol at the time too. What a bloody hooligan, going to a nightclub, getting drunk and doing drugs. Don't know how he lives with himself.

Surely more attractive to us now... it probably dropped his value a bit hahaha

I reckon he would be a terrific signing still, has scored goals every club he has played at.

[MFKS]

Surely more attractive to us now... it probably dropped his value a bit hahaha

I reckon he would be a terrific signing still, has scored goals every club he has played at.

I don't think our Chinese Lightsalesman owner wants his good name associated with druggos

[hawk]

Dang, but the super sockah fairies told me only rugby league players did bad things.


I don't know what to believe anymore.

the inner bogan is never far away

[turbojetfireV8]

we planning to cut him a deal and pay him in lines are we??

[Hunter403]

Interesting news
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/socceroos-pair-robbie-kruse-and-james-holland-will-enter-the-transfer-market-as-free-agents-20170518-gw7pss.html

[tomo]

Interesting news
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/socceroos-pair-robbie-kruse-and-james-holland-will-enter-the-transfer-market-as-free-agents-20170518-gw7pss.html

My old girl was talking to James Holland earlier in the year when he was in the hunter with his Chinese team. He was telling her that he wants to come back to the Jets, he went to China to test himself but after 2 weeks realised how filthy the Chinese people were and wanted out already

[rhysd]

Yes to Jimmy!

[StannyCFCJET]

100% No to Holland showed everyone what he thought about the Aleague with Adelaide. Rather Kanta to Holland at least Kanta can kick someone whenever he plays

[hawk]

100% No to Holland showed everyone what he thought about the Aleague with Adelaide. Rather Kanta to Holland at least Kanta can kick someone whenever he plays

No way to Kanta even if free, Holland can eat sausage

[StannyCFCJET]

No way to Kanta even if free, Holland can eat sausage

I dont want Kanta either but he is better on cheap coin then Holland on mega bucks

[hawk]

Diving bans: Will retrospective action work?
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39969813


Anything to reduce this scourge on the game is a help. Yeah there's heaps of grey area and the big clubs will probs get off more often but ever since that Brazilian a**hole diver Rivaldo fell to the ground like a twat it has almost fkd the game.

[lquiquer]

What a great idea.... https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/dutch-side-den-bosch-introduce-pay-per-point-season-ticket-for-next-season-462365

[The Dunster]

What a great idea.... https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/dutch-side-den-bosch-introduce-pay-per-point-season-ticket-for-next-season-462365

It would certainly show how confident the club was with it's coach and squad.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/warren-pens-new-glory-deal-462461

Great news for us!

[plague]

https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/warren-pens-new-glory-deal-462461

Great news for us!

Only 25?
Jeez Louise it's as if he's been in my life forever.
So glad there's more of him to enjoy.

[Mark325]

http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/mariners-land-dutch-midfielder-tom-hiariej/e1gj8auzeopv19vh6oo9o74k1

Gypos got a new signing who actually seems quite decent

[The Dunster]

http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/mariners-land-dutch-midfielder-tom-hiariej/e1gj8auzeopv19vh6oo9o74k1

Gypos got a new signing who actually seems quite decent

Like Okon would have anywhere near the contacts Ernie Merrick has in Europe :gent:
Disappointing to see that even the Gypos recruit better than we do.

[pv4]

FWIW the club that he is from is the same club Ange Postecoglu's new bolter kid in the recent Socceroos squad is from. I would casually guess that Ange is one of the reasons that players from that club are on AL clubs radars.

I'm always skeptical about players whom spend their whole careers in one country/area and then decide to come to the AL. Like Alivodic, or Kokko. It's definitely a gamble imo (well, I guess most visa players are a gamble innit).

[The Dunster]

FWIW the club that he is from is the same club Ange Postecoglu's new bolter kid in the recent Socceroos squad is from. I would casually guess that Ange is one of the reasons that players from that club are on AL clubs radars.

I'm always skeptical about players whom spend their whole careers in one country/area and then decide to come to the AL. Like Alivodic, or Kokko. It's definitely a gamble imo (well, I guess most visa players are a gamble innit).

He's been playing 2nd division the past few seasons on loan - so I'd guess the lure of more money here would have been enough incentive.

[pv4]

He's been playing 2nd division the past few seasons on loan - so I'd guess the lure of more money here would have been enough incentive.

From what I casually hear about Kokko and co also, they see Australia as their "in" to the Asian market also.

[halo se7en]

Like Okon would have anywhere near the contacts Ernie Merrick has in Europe :gent:
Disappointing to see that even the Gypos recruit better than we do.

:deadhorse: If we signed him I could only imagine the criticism levelled at the club for not aiming high enough, signing another drovandi/de groot/hakanson rolled into one etc. Yet as soon as another club does it, we assume he's quality?

[goaliepersempre]

when does the next season draw come out?

[goaliepersempre]

FWIW the club that he is from is the same club Ange Postecoglu's new bolter kid in the recent Socceroos squad is from. I would casually guess that Ange is one of the reasons that players from that club are on AL clubs radars.

I'm always skeptical about players whom spend their whole careers in one country/area and then decide to come to the AL. Like Alivodic, or Kokko. It's definitely a gamble imo (well, I guess most visa players are a gamble innit).

It also comes down to what kind of league it is, club etc...

I would take a bloke playing in the Bundesliga 1 or 2 and only there anyday of the week.

[The Dunster]

:deadhorse: If we signed him I could only imagine the criticism levelled at the club for not aiming high enough, signing another drovandi/de groot/hakanson rolled into one etc. Yet as soon as another club does it, we assume he's quality?

Degroot and Drovandi to a lesser degree did very well after they left the Jets. Hakanson never overcame his injury woes from what I have read and was pretty much finished.
The coast signing though is a central mid, 28 years of age who appears to be able to get around without the aid of crutches or a wheelchair - So absolutely no comparison to the shit the Jets sign.

[The Dunster]

From what I casually hear about Kokko and co also, they see Australia as their "in" to the Asian market also.

Makes a lot of sense. I think our owner purchased the Jets to get into the Australian market / develop his non-football business interests.

[StannyCFCJET]

Degroot and Drovandi to a lesser degree did very well after they left the Jets. Hakanson never overcame his injury woes from what I have read and was pretty much finished.
The coast signing though is a central mid, 28 years of age who appears to be able to get around without the aid of crutches or a wheelchair - So absolutely no comparison to the shit the Jets sign.

Anyone know why we signed Drovandi and after 1 game is never seen again?

[The Dunster]

Anyone know why we signed Drovandi and after 1 game is never seen again?

He probably failed a beep test at training so GVE no longer wanted him. Also I think the language barrier and GVE's lack of tolerance for foreigners might have come into play as well.

[De-Champ]

Like Okon would have anywhere near the contacts Ernie Merrick has in Europe :gent:
Disappointing to see that even the Gypos recruit better than we do.

I'd say Okon has a lot more contacts than Merrick in Europe.

[Wilso8948]

I'd say Okon has a lot more contacts than Merrick in Europe.
Your sarcasm radar needs a service.

[plague]

Does anyone know if Captain Obvious has entered rehab or something?

Bloke has gone missing in the big moments this season.

[Captain Oblivious]

I haven't gone anywhere

[MFKS]

He's been playing 2nd division the past few seasons on loan - so I'd guess the lure of more money here would have been enough incentive.

You take out the big Euro Leagues out of the picture
Then you take out the big name clubs in each country in Europe get down to the rank and file chaff the equivalent of us in the HAL and blokes playing at that level are not on that much cash

The over inflated wages in this country are not that bad of a prospect for any rank and file Euro professional player

[Mark325]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/05/23/yeboah-lands-two-year-contract-extension-gladbach

[hawk]

The over inflated wages in this country are not that bad of a prospect for any rank and file Euro professional player

Good on ya Norm Gallagher

[monz6]

Makes a lot of sense. I think our owner purchased the Jets to get into the Australian market / develop his non-football business interests.

Just read a herald article suggesting he's lost about 8million already. Don't know much about business but that seems like an expensive buy in to the Australian market whatever that is

[hawk]

Just read a herald article suggesting he's lost about 8million already. Don't know much about business but that seems like an expensive buy in to the Australian market whatever that is

5.5mill of that was the way over inflated purchase from those ffa cvnts.

[turbojetfireV8]

Just read a herald article suggesting he's lost about 8million already. Don't know much about business but that seems like an expensive buy in to the Australian market whatever that is

Link: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4685994/eight-million-and-counting-for-jets-owner/?cs=303

[Jetmaster]

Another silly Parris article trying to cause drama - you can't call the purchase price a loss as he can resell or add value.

Like any other investment.

[MFKS]

Another silly Parris article trying to cause drama - you can't call the purchase price a loss as he can resell or add value.

Like any other investment.

Add value??

You taking the piss

Its like buying an Old Commodore for 1k

Since then we have slashed the seats and the door latches fell in so you now have to climb in Dukes of Hazzard style through necessity

You ain't getting your money back now

[plague]

Actually has any A-League licence ever been 'sold' between 2 independent parties apart from the Double-eff-aye ripping them back and on selling?

[borat]

Add value??

You taking the piss

Its like buying an Old Commodore for 1k

Since then we have slashed the seats and the door latches fell in so you now have to climb in Dukes of Hazzard style through necessity

You ain't getting your money back now

Let some drunk drive for a year until he crashed it......

[borat]

Actually has any A-League licence ever been 'sold' between 2 independent parties apart from the Double-eff-aye ripping them back and on selling?

SFC and Victory had investors buy in and sell out, Mariners too.

[turbojetfireV8]

the yardstick for measuring just how good Mr Lee is will be whether he can make good his statement to get us into the ACL within three years (give or take a year), to do that he will need to invest in the club, but if he is ambitious to make the club a viable entity then he has to put in the $$$ to do it...

[hawk]

the yardstick for measuring just how good Mr Lee is will be whether he can make good his statement to get us into the ACL within three years (give or take a year), to do that he will need to invest in the club, but if he is ambitious to make the club a viable entity then he has to put in the $$$ to do it...

$$$ or fo

[turbojetfireV8]

$$$ or fo
True. $8mil might pay for one (cheapish) marquee level player in the CSL, it's a drop in the ocean - he should be able to get bang for his buck here in Australia, especially if he can develop a few players (Aussie, Chinese or Chilean) to on-sell into the Chinese market at a substantial mark-up, but he has to make the investment to get the reward, I'm hoping he's serious enough about his purchase of the Jets to do just that...

[The Dunster]

True. $8mil might pay for one (cheapish) marquee level player in the CSL, it's a drop in the ocean - he should be able to get bang for his buck here in Australia, especially if he can develop a few players (Aussie, Chinese or Chilean) to on-sell into the Chinese market at a substantial mark-up, but he has to make the investment to get the reward, I'm hoping he's serious enough about his purchase of the Jets to do just that...

He'd get better odds playing baccarat at Crown.
Then you have the player managers to contend will insisting their lads have a clause about transfers installed so as they can freely move rather than be stuck until a big offer arrives.
Much easier to let other clubs develop players and simply buy the finished product rather than roll the dice on a junior who may never make it at A-league level let alone be good enough for a big overseas offer.

[hawk]

Much easier to let other clubs develop players and simply buy the finished product rather than roll the dice on a junior who may never make it at A-league level let alone be good enough for a big overseas offer.

for sure. There's no future in blooding jnrs cause they head off soon after. (Maybe farm our top jnrs out to other clubs to develop)

Lee needs to buy the comp then show off to his China mates and have big parties. everyone wins

[MFKS]

He'd get better odds playing baccarat at Crown.
Then you have the player managers to contend will insisting their lads have a clause about transfers installed so as they can freely move rather than be stuck until a big offer arrives.
Much easier to let other clubs develop players and simply buy the finished product rather than roll the dice on a junior who may never make it at A-league level let alone be good enough for a big overseas offer.

BS

There some countries around the world where the club's intentionally blood kids to en sell to European clubs

They then put in transfer clauses etc in the deals and the club's are funded on this method.

It our countries fault we are not making the effort to blood kids at 16-17 in the HAL giving them 2-3 years and then en selling

That because we ****ing stupid and have a pile of shit **** mercenaries going around in the never ending circle

FFS how many of the HAL clubs show any interest in playing anyone under 21??

There is no relegation

So no excuses for not doing so

[Mark325]

Baro signed with mariners

[plague]

Lee needs to buy the comp then show off to his China mates and have big parties. everyone wins

This is why Hawk is the only billionaire on the foz.

5 star post.

[MFKS]

Baro signed with mariners

Great decision to not sign him by Griff

Any bloke who would sign for the Gypos

[The Dunster]

BS

There some countries around the world where the club's intentionally blood kids to en sell to European clubs

They then put in transfer clauses etc in the deals and the club's are funded on this method.

It our countries fault we are not making the effort to blood kids at 16-17 in the HAL giving them 2-3 years and then en selling

That because we ****ing stupid and have a pile of shit **** mercenaries going around in the never ending circle

FFS how many of the HAL clubs show any interest in playing anyone under 21??

There is no relegation

So no excuses for not doing so

Can you give me an example please of one of these countries ?

[borat]

Baro signed with mariners

Lawrie is going to need a new list of unrealistic targets at this rate

[MFKS]

Can you give me an example please of one of these countries ?
Chile
Argentina
Brazil
Uruguay

There 4

[MFKS]

Lawrie is going to need a new list of unrealistic targets at this rate

Well then we should help him out

Come up with some more "rumoured" signings and start the Twitter frenzy

[The Dunster]

Chile
Argentina
Brazil
Uruguay

There 4

There's probably more as well but none of them would have a model Australia could adopt successfully.
The substitution effects [alternative sports or professions] and income effects [higher standards of living] just make the chances of Australian clubs doing the same impossible.
Not too mention the fact that we don't have the technical ability to produce players like these countries do either - come to think of it neither do most of Europe either.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

News is, Hoole to the gypos. Right where he belongs.

[StannyCFCJET]

News is, Hoole to the gypos. Right where he belongs.

Shows how much he actually cared about our club. Good luck to Okon with his pissweak mentality and attidude

[Jeterpool]

That'll spice the derby up and surely that can motivate our crowd

[StannyCFCJET]

That'll spice the derby up and surely that can motivate our crowd

We get O Donovan and they get Hoole :rof::rof::rof::rof::rof: Well done Gypos

[The Camel]

News is, Hoole to the gypos. Right where he belongs.

But but Joel Grennell was telling everyone how Euro clubs were lining up to sign him and telling everyone on twiiter that they're not in the know and how awesome he and Hoole are. ****ing douchbag

[MFKS]

Where the sauce on Raheem to the Gypos??

[Grimario]

Where the sauce on Raheem to the Gypos??

SST are the latest to claim it.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

SST are the latest to claim it.

Who are more than likely using Gatty.

Saying he's already signed. Not a 'possible' like usual.

[plague]

SST are the latest to claim it.

yeah i read it somewhere.

[plague]

News is, Hoole to the gypos. Right where he belongs.

who?

never heard of him.

sounds like hes broke

[turbojetfireV8]

guess Brymora has a decent chance at an OS contract:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4694265/jets-striker-chases-dream-in-europe/?cs=306

if the gyppos talk is true though for Hoole, that truly is a career fail, being second fiddle to Pain has to be a career lowlight...

[Jeterpool]

guess Brymora has a decent chance at an OS contract:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4694265/jets-striker-chases-dream-in-europe/?cs=306


Good luck to him. I hope he does well and earns himself a contract

[Jetmaster]

Quote Joel Grennell, March 1st this year...


“Hooley does not have a desire to play for another A-League club,” Grenell said. “This is the right time for him to jump into the deep end of the ocean and try and forge a career in Europe, which is no different to any other aspiring young footballer in the world. There are clubs committed to offering a deal if he continues his good form. At the very least these clubs are committed to getting him over in the European summer and having a look at him in the flesh. It's an exciting time for Hooley.”

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4501954/jets-withdraw-offer-to-hoole/

This twit has close to ruined Hoole's career, at this stage - he may turn it around yet.

Should take a leaf out Brymora's book. He is taking the path followed by Johnston, Kewell and Cahill. Take a punt on yourself with your own cash and get in their face and find out how good you really are. Not spend one or two OK seasons in the A-League, be convinced you are a superstar and and have an agent sell you to the Romanian second division.

[Jeterpool]

Lawyered.

[halo se7en]

Quote Joel Grennell, March 1st this year...



http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4501954/jets-withdraw-offer-to-hoole/

This twit has close to ruined Hoole's career, at this stage - he may turn it around yet.

Should take a leaf out Brymora's book. He is taking the path followed by Johnston, Kewell and Cahill. Take a punt on yourself with your own cash and get in their face and find out how good you really are. Not spend one or two OK seasons in the A-League, be convinced you are a superstar and and have an agent sell you to the Romanian second division.

He couldn't even do that, unless you've subconsciously made a link between Romania & the gypos...

[Jetmaster]

Nuh - just a generalisation.

[MFKS]

Quote Joel Grennell, March 1st this year...



http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4501954/jets-withdraw-offer-to-hoole/

This twit has close to ruined Hoole's career, at this stage - he may turn it around yet.

Should take a leaf out Brymora's book. He is taking the path followed by Johnston, Kewell and Cahill. Take a punt on yourself with your own cash and get in their face and find out how good you really are. Not spend one or two OK seasons in the A-League, be convinced you are a superstar and and have an agent sell you to the Romanian second division.
Good luck to Bymora

He is having a go

I would be surprised if he succeeds over there but good on him for having a crack

[StannyCFCJET]

guess Brymora has a decent chance at an OS contract:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4694265/jets-striker-chases-dream-in-europe/?cs=306

if the gyppos talk is true though for Hoole, that truly is a career fail, being second fiddle to Pain has to be a career lowlight...

Good enough to earn two PL trials but not good enough to play more than 9 mins last year. Jeez our club is shite

[Wilso8948]

Mariners saying there is another signing coming tomoz after announcing Golec today. Could well be Hoole.

[halo se7en]

Mariners saying there is another signing coming tomoz after announcing Golec today. Could well be Hoole.

Cue foz outrage that we missed out on Golec.

[Frodo]

It's worrying how the Mariners seem to be signing all these competent footballers to fill the glaring gaps in their playing roster with a full preseason to work them into the squad and set up tactics/formations. I don't know if I could cope if our club started doing that...

[The Dunster]

Good enough to earn two PL trials but not good enough to play more than 9 mins last year. Jeez our club is shite

Agreed. And good on Kristian Brymora for doing it old school and showing some balls rather than taking the easy path like 99.9% of the pussies these days.
It will be a nice wake up call for the Jets when he shows others how it's done without a shit club to hold you back.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Agreed. And good on Kristian Brymora for doing it old school and showing some balls rather than taking the easy path like 99.9% of the pussies these days.
It will be a nice wake up call for the Jets when he shows others how it's done without a shit club to hold you back.

Do we take him back, if he comes crawling home?

[Wilso8948]

It's worrying how the Mariners seem to be signing all these competent footballers to fill the glaring gaps in their playing roster with a full preseason to work them into the squad and set up tactics/formations. I don't know if I could cope if our club started doing that...

Makes you wonder why they let O'Donnovan go so easily. They don't have a striker. In my opinion seeing Hoole go would be a shame. He's a competent A-league standard player. No more no less. I do believe he's been a pretty big scapegoat at our club for the past few seasons. Would like to see him work under Merrick. If they replace him with someone better I will forget pretty quick.

[The Dunster]

Do we take him back, if he comes crawling home?

He won't come crawling home because there is absolutely no shame in giving your best to make your dream a reality. It's not like when Hoole went to Sydney and so on.
The only reasons he won't make it will be football politics or that he's simply not good enough. His attitude and dedication to his chosen profession is pretty much flawless.
You should be giving him credit for showing the balls to have a go rather than running him down for putting himself on the line.
I seriously doubt the Jets will be his only or best option if things don't work out for him in Europe.
If the Jets did have a position available for him and he accepted it I'd have no issue with that either.

[The Dunster]

Makes you wonder why they let O'Donnovan go so easily. They don't have a striker. In my opinion seeing Hoole go would be a shame. He's a competent A-league standard player. No more no less. I do believe he's been a pretty big scapegoat at our club for the past few seasons. Would like to see him work under Merrick. If they replace him with someone better I will forget pretty quick.

O'Donovan either wanted too much coin or he's got injury concerns that the Mariners don't want to deal with. My guess is Okon will probably bring in someone that's even better for less money.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

He won't come crawling home because there is absolutely no shame in giving your best to make your dream a reality. It's not like when Hoole went to Sydney and so on.
The only reasons he won't make it will be football politics or that he's simply not good enough. His attitude and dedication to his chosen profession is pretty much flawless.
You should be giving him credit for showing the balls to have a go rather than running him down for putting himself on the line.
I seriously doubt the Jets will be his only or best option if things don't work out for him in Europe.
If the Jets did have a position available for him and he accepted it I'd have no issue with that either.

I never put him down, I was simply asking whether we'd consider taking him back should his adventure to Euro not pan out.

Good on the kid for having a dig.

[borat]

It's worrying how the Mariners seem to be signing all these competent footballers to fill the glaring gaps in their playing roster with a full preseason to work them into the squad and set up tactics/formations. I don't know if I could cope if our club started doing that...

We did that once and won all our pre-season games.....then sacked the coach

[borat]

O'Donovan either wanted too much coin or he's got injury concerns that the Mariners don't want to deal with. My guess is Okon will probably bring in someone that's even better for less money.

We paid through the nose for O'Donnovan, that's how.

[borat]

Makes you wonder why they let O'Donnovan go so easily. They don't have a striker. In my opinion seeing Hoole go would be a shame. He's a competent A-league standard player. No more no less. I do believe he's been a pretty big scapegoat at our club for the past few seasons. Would like to see him work under Merrick. If they replace him with someone better I will forget pretty quick.

I would go further. Hoole is a quality player at his best but struggles for consistency. Now he is scoring goals, some of them crackers, he was well worth persisting with. Not our basketcase of a team though.

I always thought Jones had him playing a style of play where he was encouraged to takes chances and try to beat the man whenever the opportunity presented. The problem was he was pretty lazy at tracking back and copped bile for it.

[Wilso8948]

I would go further. Hoole is a quality player at his best but struggles for consistency. Now he is scoring goals, some of them crackers, he was well worth persisting with. Not our basketcase of a team though.

I always thought Jones had him playing a style of play where he was encouraged to takes chances and try to beat the man whenever the opportunity presented. The problem was he was pretty lazy at tracking back and copped bile for it.
Agree. Just think the A league is probably his limit. Jones had him playing a direct style which suited him and Nabbout. Just think he could have been managed a little better off the pitch. Something Merrick would have done. He also will change with age in my opinion. I could have handled him playing a similar role as Carney did in Sydney's squad last season.

[Jeterpool]

Do we take him back, if he comes crawling home?

I would. It's good to have a player who has shown some ambition and tested himself, who wants to aim higher and achieve more. He will be better for the experience and add to teh fact he's a local that has been consistently scoring we could do worse than giving him a go. Had Miller stayed I think he'd have got more of a shot last year than he actually did.


It's worrying how the Mariners seem to be signing all these competent footballers to fill the glaring gaps in their playing roster with a full preseason to work them into the squad and set up tactics/formations. I don't know if I could cope if our club started doing that...

We are only missing 4 spots on our roster and all teams are on holidays. Even playing field so far.

In seasons past, we would still have 4 spots to fill the week before the first game

[halo se7en]

Jesus Christ, we're suddenly worried about how well the Mariners are recruiting?? Baro, Golec, some Dutch guy that hasn't even arrived yet, and Hoole who couldn't do enough to lift us off the bottom of the table. Watch out everyone, they're going to win the league :wanker:

Yet we sign Georgevski, who was in the same defensive line as Baro, but some think he's not good enough and we should be aiming higher? Make up your ****ing minds.

[borat]

I would. It's good to have a player who has shown some ambition and tested himself, who wants to aim higher and achieve more. He will be better for the experience and add to teh fact he's a local that has been consistently scoring we could do worse than giving him a go. Had Miller stayed I think he'd have got more of a shot last year than he actually did.



We are only missing 4 spots on our roster and all teams are on holidays. Even playing field so far.

In seasons past, we would still have 4 spots to fill the week before the first game

Look at the 4 positions we have left though. One will be a #10 and will add quality to the side. Not sure you could say that about the other 3.

Another will be a Chinese player, and I expect an unknown quantity. What we know is wages are high in China so you would expect the quality of player we would attract to be not that great at best. I would expect at wide attacker to replace Hoole.

The other 2, well Merrick was quoted that there would be defensive signings. So am expecting them to be a DM and a CB. I also think judging by Merrick statements these will be older experienced players. If I ou look at the open market of Australian players, I think at best Nick Ansell for CB we could expect but still think that we will recruit more ex Nix Players. Still banking that one will be Vince Lia as he is definitely leaving for a NSW club.

I don't think this squad is good enough and will struggle, again

[Jetmaster]

Good enough to earn two PL trials but not good enough to play more than 9 mins last year. Jeez our club is shite

Disagree - triallists often head over to get better than they are, most with little if any senior experience.

Getting a trial doesn't mean you are good enough. Can't pin this on the club who, looking at some comments above, can't do anything right..

[borat]

Disagree - triallists often head over to get better than they are, most with little if any senior experience.

Getting a trial doesn't mean you are good enough. Can't pin this on the club who, looking at some comments above, can't do anything right..

You can pin it on Jones. He clearly deserved more than 9 minutes in a season where we struggled for strikers.

Whereas at the same time we signed Champness longer term, who then earned a trial at Brighton. We dropped the ball with Bymora.

[plague]

Hooles been fantastic this offseason.

[MFKS]

You can pin it on Jones. He clearly deserved more than 9 minutes in a season where we struggled for strikers.

Whereas at the same time we signed Champness longer term, who then earned a trial at Brighton. We dropped the ball with Bymora.

Slow down with your Jones bashing

I have watched more than enough of Bymora in the Yoof.

That he got a gig with the FT squad says more about Northerns failings and GVE Zane etc

The current batch of EJ is terrible

The worst of the lot

No offence to Bymora but if he doing well enough at the Jets he gets an opportunity at the club

It ain't like we flush with talent

It also ain't like we don't rotate our squad either

Other than BK I think everyone got a game in the HAL last season


There is a massive failing at the Jets period
We have been shit for years but not one of the managers has had the balls to pluck a kid from the Yoof and plonk him in the first team

Lundy got **** all of a go here as he had 4 managers in 3 years

He was killing it in the Yoof but not even getting on the bench in the HAL

Lundy was a more realistic option to play first team football than Bymora

[Jeterpool]

I'd say a reason for a poor batch of Youth players is that we don't have a steady coaching situation and there isn't a realistic pathway for them through to the first team. Cowbrn is the only one to progress through int he last few years.

[borat]

Slow down with your Jones bashing

I have watched more than enough of Bymora in the Yoof.

That he got a gig with the FT squad says more about Northerns failings and GVE Zane etc

The current batch of EJ is terrible

The worst of the lot

No offence to Bymora but if he doing well enough at the Jets he gets an opportunity at the club

It ain't like we flush with talent

It also ain't like we don't rotate our squad either

Other than BK I think everyone got a game in the HAL last season


There is a massive failing at the Jets period
We have been shit for years but not one of the managers has had the balls to pluck a kid from the Yoof and plonk him in the first team

Lundy got **** all of a go here as he had 4 managers in 3 years

He was killing it in the Yoof but not even getting on the bench in the HAL

Lundy was a more realistic option to play first team football than Bymora
I hear what you are saying but surely he deserved more than 9 minutes. If he is worthy of EPL trials then he was worth a look at least

[Frodo]

Jesus Christ, we're suddenly worried about how well the Mariners are recruiting?? Baro, Golec, some Dutch guy that hasn't even arrived yet, and Hoole who couldn't do enough to lift us off the bottom of the table. Watch out everyone, they're going to win the league :wanker:

Yet we sign Georgevski, who was in the same defensive line as Baro, but some think he's not good enough and we should be aiming higher? Make up your ****ing minds.

Realistically we have 3 teams around us at the moment to compete against. Nix, Radelaide and the Gypos. We finished last, the Marinators finished 2nd last. If we want to improve on our position next season we need to make sure we are better than they are firstly and then move further up the list. Simple.

Thus, if the above statement is true and we have signed 2 players who are filling gaps in our playing roster and they have signed 3... (Plus they were actually signed by the coach who will be making the decisions this year)... we are currently not moving ahead of them. If you somehow read these simple points as 'they're going to win the league' then maybe the :wanker: is appropriate, just not in the way you first intended.



If you aren't worried about what the teams around us doing in the off season then why are you even reading this section of the foz? I can only assume that the politics thread would be blowing up right now.

[halo se7en]

Realistically we have 3 teams around us at the moment to compete against. Nix, Radelaide and the Gypos. We finished last, the Marinators finished 2nd last. If we want to improve on our position next season we need to make sure we are better than they are firstly and then move further up the list. Simple.

Thus, if the above statement is true and we have signed 2 players who are filling gaps in our playing roster and they have signed 3... (Plus they were actually signed by the coach who will be making the decisions this year)... we are currently not moving ahead of them. If you somehow read these simple points as 'they're going to win the league' then maybe the :wanker: is appropriate, just not in the way you first intended.



If you aren't worried about what the teams around us doing in the off season then why are you even reading this section of the foz? I can only assume that the politics thread would be blowing up right now.

You completely missed my point. People are suddenly concerned at who the Mariners have signed. I can guarantee if we'd signed the same 4 players, the foz would be writing the season off, expecting another spoon, and bashing Lee & Lawrie relentlessly for not showing enough ambition. It's still May and we've already signed two players who I think are improvements to the squad. Just show some patience.

Brisbane have lost Mclaren, Broich & Borrello. How are they going for replacements? Who have Wanderers signed? Do Nix or Adelaide even have a coach yet?

[turbojetfireV8]

So Joel couldn't get Ryan in because Jonesy thought he was too old eh?

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4696075/ryan-ready-to-repay-jaffas-in-return-home/?cs=2439

[Jetmaster]

So Joel couldn't get Ryan in because Jonesy thought he was too old eh?

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4696075/ryan-ready-to-repay-jaffas-in-return-home/?cs=2439

TBH - I reckon Griff would have thought the same.

[De-Champ]

So Joel couldn't get Ryan in because Jonesy thought he was too old eh?

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4696075/ryan-ready-to-repay-jaffas-in-return-home/?cs=2439

He did not get much of a run with WSW either

[Roundball Enthusiast]

1450

Accepted well so far.

[MFKS]

1450

Accepted well so far.

So how big is the Tifo going to be for the traitor??

[Roundball Enthusiast]

So how big is the Tifo going to be for the traitor??

None, would show how little he meant to us.

[MFKS]

None, would show how little he meant to us.
Disagree

Message needs to be sent to any other clown that playing for the Gypos is not an option

#TraitorousDogs

[pv4]

Disagree

Message needs to be sent to any other clown that playing for the Gypos is not an option

#TraitorousDogs

BK tifo in full force.

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/31/brisbane-roar-to-appeal-afc-fine-over-lack-of-international-buffet-for-officials

amusing.

[Hunter403]

Breaking News! Mariners leave A League to play in an as yet unnamed European league. Scoop at 6 from reporter Andrew Hoole

[The Camel]

Disagree

Message needs to be sent to any other clown that playing for the Gypos is not an option

#TraitorousDogs

The hate should also be direct at that peanut **** Joel Grenell who was bagging people on Facebook for questioning his comments when he stated Hoole had multiple Euro clubs lining up to sign him. The Jets should cease doing any business with him or any of his clients

[MFKS]

His manager ??

Your right there with your statement that the club should have nothing to do with him

Thing is though he a lot DEEPER Connexions in Newcastle football than most know about

[plague]

He sounds like an A grade shit stirrer.

My kind of bloke.


Sign him up Middleby.

[borat]

Reckon we will end up with Cluf or Hoffman taking Hoole's position. Good times.

[MFKS]

Reckon we will end up with Cluf or Hoffman taking Hoole's position. Good times.

At RW or fans whipping boy??

[borat]

RW........unless we get lucky in China

[borat]

Or we switch our formation to 4-3-3

[StannyCFCJET]

Hooles Agent having a dig at Jets fans on facebook congratulating Hoole for signing for the Great coach Paul Okon

[Jeterpool]

At RW or fans whipping boy??

:rof: :rof: :rof: