2019/20 Squad

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN on loss - initial clip on the news before this story (not on the website) must have been taken straight from Fux as it only showed the Shitney goals and was def a Shitney-centric fluff piece, found it weird NBN even presented it when it obviously not aimed at a Newcastle audience...

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetssydney110120.mp4

[mic22]

From jets website:
With land-based running to begin in the coming days, the estimated timeframe for Hoolahan’s return is somewhere between 6-8 weeks

[Bon]

Moss out for 4-6 weeks with grade 2 calf tear..

[Jeterpool]

Moss out for 4-6 weeks with grade 2 calf tear..

He went down in almost exactly the same way Alisson did earlier in the season as a result of the same injury.

[StannyCFCJET]

Sad to see him Injured but he has deserved to be dropped for a while just a shame its happened this way

[The Dunster]

Sad to see him Injured but he has deserved to be dropped for a while just a shame its happened this way

You cheered like a 14 year old girl at a One Direction concert when Moss went down injured Stanny. Be a man and fess up.

[StannyCFCJET]

You cheered like a 14 year old girl at a One Direction concert when Moss went down injured Stanny. Be a man and fess up.

14 yrs old? That's a bit old for a one direction concert isn't it?

[Alton]

From jets website:
With land-based running to begin in the coming days, the estimated timeframe for Hoolahan’s return is somewhere between 6-8 weeks

Wessi will miss two more games

[The Dunster]

14 yrs old? That's a bit old for a one direction concert isn't it?

Very true Stanny.

[MFKS]

Moss out for 4-6 weeks with grade 2 calf tear..

How the **** do you injure yourself kicking a ball FFS

Defies belief

[Jeterpool]

How the **** do you injure yourself kicking a ball FFS

Defies belief

I assume the fibers in the muscle give way and cause a tear that varys from minor to significant during the motion of kicking. :lulzturtle:

[Bremsstrahlung]

I assume the fibers in the muscle give way and cause a tear that varys from minor to significant during the motion of kicking. :lulzturtle:

You forgot to use your multi JP

[Jetmaster]

Fabianski did almost the same thing on Saturday, except it was his hip.

[Bon]

Ridenton has been given a weeks leave to pursue an opportunity overseas..
Probably one of Jowic's backup dancers..

[StannyCFCJET]

Ridenton has been given a weeks leave to pursue an opportunity overseas..
Probably one of Jowic's backup dancers..

To the championship. His managers have done well.

[Couscous]

Ridenton has been given a weeks leave to pursue an opportunity overseas.

If I were Mr Martin Lee — and I may be — I would approve this as good business.

[Frodo]

Wessi will miss two more games

Do you mean once he's back in 6-8 weeks he'll be injured for 2 more weeks?

Cause he looks like he is on non-weight bearing training still. So maybe 2 weeks till he's back on the grass jogging. Then 4-6 weeks to get some fitness and strength back into that leg.

I'll still be very shocked, given his age and severity of injury, if we see him play 90 mins this season. I'll be very happy if we do, but I'm not confident.

[Hunter403]

Hope Ridenton has a one way ticket...

[380]

They say a week is a long time in football, Lets hope it is the longest week of football ever.

Bloke is physically one of the biggest pussy cats in the A League with the ball, He will probably come back broken into two pieces.

[anfield]

Ridenton has been given a weeks leave to pursue an opportunity overseas..
Probably one of Jowic's backup dancers..

I can't see him getting a contract in the championship given he isn't a guaranteed starter at the Jets. Came to the club with Merrick, now he is gone so appears to be Ridentons chances of regular football.

Furthermore why would we let him go on trial? The championship club either buys him or not I would think. Just another player missing when he should be training hard to win a spot for the weekend.

[Frodo]

I can't see him getting a contract in the championship given he isn't a guaranteed starter at the Jets. Came to the club with Merrick, now he is gone so appears to be Ridentons chances of regular football.

Furthermore why would we let him go on trial? The championship club either buys him or not I would think. Just another player missing when he should be training hard to win a spot for the weekend.

This isn't FIFA, this is the real world.

Our club wants to move on a visa spot. Tell players agent to go looking for deal. Club in championship sees marketing opportunities within NZ for player on low wages. Haven't seen him play much tho.

Give him 2 day trial (2 day flight recovery either side) with club to see where he sits amongst current group. If he isn't out of place, make offer to players agent for wages. If not, either request footage of player throughout rest of season or thank him and move on.

[Frodo]

Also, yay.. our already wafer thin midfield is now thinner. ..what's the record for the earliest someone has won the wooden spoon during a season Jeterpool?

[StannyCFCJET]

Also, yay.. our already wafer thin midfield is now thinner. ..what's the record for the earliest someone has won the wooden spoon during a season Jeterpool?
Ugar Kanta Thurgate Simmons Johnny K and Patty L. That's not a thin midfield in terms of numbers

[MFKS]

Ugar Kanta Thurgate Simmons Johnny K and Patty L. That's not a thin midfield in terms of numbers

Pretty thin in ACTUAL quality though

[StannyCFCJET]

Pretty thin in ACTUAL quality though
Ridenton adds little in quality though

[Frodo]

Ugar Kanta Thurgate Simmons Johnny K and Patty L. That's not a thin midfield in terms of numbers

Thurgate isn't a CM, he'll be in one of the forward 4 positions from now on. Who the hell is Jack Simmons?? (I know who he is, but the kid is about 17/18 years old. He's about 2 seasons away from playing a key role in the HAL at CM)

So semi-fit Kanta, Sydney/City/Barca bound Ugabooga, Johnny K who is still needed at LB until we sign one, and Langlois who is meant to be a CB if I'm not mistaken.

Dats pretty thin if you ask me. Which I did...

[StannyCFCJET]

Thurgate isn't a CM, he'll be in one of the forward 4 positions from now on. Who the hell is Jack Simmons?? (I know who he is, but the kid is about 17/18 years old. He's about 2 seasons away from playing a key role in the HAL at CM)

So semi-fit Kanta, Sydney/City/Barca bound Ugabooga, Johnny K who is still needed at LB until we sign one, and Langlois who is meant to be a CB if I'm not mistaken.

Dats pretty thin if you ask me. Which I did...

Naturally he is an 8 The coaches have always said this

[StannyCFCJET]

Thurgate isn't a CM, he'll be in one of the forward 4 positions from now on. Who the hell is Jack Simmons?? (I know who he is, but the kid is about 17/18 years old. He's about 2 seasons away from playing a key role in the HAL at CM)

So semi-fit Kanta, Sydney/City/Barca bound Ugabooga, Johnny K who is still needed at LB until we sign one, and Langlois who is meant to be a CB if I'm not mistaken.

Dats pretty thin if you ask me. Which I did...

Langlois is a natural midfielder

[Grimario]

Thurgate isn't a CM, he'll be in one of the forward 4 positions from now on. Who the hell is Jack Simmons?? (I know who he is, but the kid is about 17/18 years old. He's about 2 seasons away from playing a key role in the HAL at CM)

So semi-fit Kanta, Sydney/City/Barca bound Ugabooga, Johnny K who is still needed at LB until we sign one, and Langlois who is meant to be a CB if I'm not mistaken.

Dats pretty thin if you ask me. Which I did...

If Simmons is good enough, it doesn't matter if he is 17. If he isn't good enough, he will fit in well in 3-4 years time and hang around for 3-4 years too long before we bin him. Just play him. Let him make mistakes. Let him learn at the level he needs to learn.

[Frodo]

Naturally he is an 8 The coaches have always said this

He's never looked like an 8 whilst on the pitch. He only plays what's in front of him and loves to receive the ball facing his own goal. He's a 9/10 hybrid, and could be shunted out wide to do a job. Would need to change a hell of a lot of his game to play as an 8.

We have 1 fit No 8 if Ridenton leaves as well as 1 semi fit No 6 and 2 mediocre backups.

That's wafer thin considering CM is the most important part of any gameplan.

[Frodo]

If Simmons is good enough, it doesn't matter if he is 17. If he isn't good enough, he will fit in well in 3-4 years time and hang around for 3-4 years too long before we bin him. Just play him. Let him make mistakes. Let him learn at the level he needs to learn.

Just play him if he isn't good enough? Cause you learn how to be a better footballer by getting destroyed week in and week out by fitter, stronger, better coached and more polished midfielders... That won't destroy a 17 yr olds confidence will it? He won't become terrified to make a pass because he knows as soon as he stuffs up he isn't good enough to win it back of track the runs and the team loses because of his mistakes....

I love your work Grim. But you learn more on the training pitch than during the game. The game is where you find your weaknesses and then bring them to training to work on.

[StannyCFCJET]

Just play him if he isn't good enough? Cause you learn how to be a better footballer by getting destroyed week in and week out by fitter, stronger, better coached and more polished midfielders... That won't destroy a 17 yr olds confidence will it? He won't become terrified to make a pass because he knows as soon as he stuffs up he isn't good enough to win it back of track the runs and the team loses because of his mistakes....

I love your work Grim. But you learn more on the training pitch than during the game. The game is where you find your weaknesses and then bring them to training to work on.

If he becomes scared to make a pass well resign him for another 5 years

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsdeans130120.mp4

media gallery from match
https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2020/01/13/a-league-jets-v-sydney/

[MFKS]

Just play him if he isn't good enough? Cause you learn how to be a better footballer by getting destroyed week in and week out by fitter, stronger, better coached and more polished midfielders... That won't destroy a 17 yr olds confidence will it? He won't become terrified to make a pass because he knows as soon as he stuffs up he isn't good enough to win it back of track the runs and the team loses because of his mistakes....

I love your work Grim. But you learn more on the training pitch than during the game. The game is where you find your weaknesses and then bring them to training to work on.

Disagree

This is the Jets we talking about

The club has no expectations of success and embraces failure and mediocrity

Actually we may as well go full in on promoting Yoof early as results don't really matter here

Play them so they all got 100 games at this level by the time they are 22

Maybe they will sink maybe they will swim but it better than signing the likes of Fitzuseless and Co to contracts

[380]

Disagree

This is the Jets we talking about

The club has no expectations of success and embraces failure and mediocrity

Actually we may as well go full in on promoting Yoof early as results don't really matter here

Play them so they all got 100 games at this level by the time they are 22

Maybe they will sink maybe they will swim but it better than signing the likes of Fitzuseless and Co to contracts

That last sentence of yours Member is somewhat along the lines of my thinking this last few days and how the standard of the league and lazy recruiting clubs sign these turnstile type players, The Fitzgeralds, Neville , Paine etc. These blokes get so many chances and the only thing that changes from club to club to club is the color of there shirt and not there consistently flat lined talent for this level.

I think from memory long term ( maybe local ) players after so many continious years of service there contract value only 50% of that figure is included in the cap.

Similarly i think its time and happy to be corrected if dispensation already exists but is it time to offer clubs a mature age rookie from the next level down like your Murrays and sheps etc where say 30% of there contract arrangement is counted toward the cap. Would that type of incentive to clubs see the end of the days where these revolving door players either step up or go back to a standard more suitable to there regular output.

I am no genius but there must be a way to get clubs to stop this offering up career lifelines to these mature age players who's only real ability was once to carve up the beep test and thats about it.

Thoughts ????.

[MFKS]

That last sentence of yours Member is somewhat along the lines of my thinking this last few days and how the standard of the league and lazy recruiting clubs sign these turnstile type players, The Fitzgeralds, Neville , Paine etc. These blokes get so many chances and the only thing that changes from club to club to club is the color of there shirt and not there consistently flat lined talent for this level.

I think from memory long term ( maybe local ) players after so many continious years of service there contract value only 50% of that figure is included in the cap.

Similarly i think its time and happy to be corrected if dispensation already exists but is it time to offer clubs a mature age rookie from the next level down like your Murrays and sheps etc where say 30% of there contract arrangement is counted toward the cap. Would that type of incentive to clubs see the end of the days where these revolving door players either step up or go back to a standard more suitable to there regular output.

I am no genius but there must be a way to get clubs to stop this offering up career lifelines to these mature age players who's only real ability was once to carve up the beep test and thats about it.

Thoughts ????.

Well I think your suggestions for salary cap allowances is only going to allow Blue Aids Victree and the other bigger spenders more room to rort the salary cap

The reality is nothing is stopping the club's now from having a go at alternative methods

The reality is for the likes of Gypos Jets we really need to be thinking outside the box on how we can compete

The Salary Cap has changed so much since the HAL started. We were all once on a level playing field hence why in early days both the Jets n Gypos had success as we had a chance. But the FFA have watered the Salary Cap down to advantage Blue Aids n Victree etc so as a result we are both going to be at the bottom of the table more often than not

Being that we don't have relegation there is really no reason why we don't try an approach outside the box
We might as well kick out all players and only pick blokes from Newy to play at the Jets. If we gonna be shit we can do it with locals

I really hope the HAL **** off the salary cap. Because when they do it will actually force innovation on the clubs

[Grimario]

Just play him if he isn't good enough? Cause you learn how to be a better footballer by getting destroyed week in and week out by fitter, stronger, better coached and more polished midfielders... That won't destroy a 17 yr olds confidence will it? He won't become terrified to make a pass because he knows as soon as he stuffs up he isn't good enough to win it back of track the runs and the team loses because of his mistakes....

I love your work Grim. But you learn more on the training pitch than during the game. The game is where you find your weaknesses and then bring them to training to work on.

And he's going to learn so much playing NPL and 8 youth league games, isn't he? You can't really find your weaknesses at that level. But sure, let them all wait till they are 26 so they can break through and have Slater and Harper go on about "this great young talent", FFS.

[Frodo]

And he's going to learn so much playing NPL and 8 youth league games, isn't he? You can't really find your weaknesses at that level. But sure, let them all wait till they are 26 so they can break through and have Slater and Harper go on about "this great young talent", FFS.

He's had pubes on his cock for all of 6 months (everyone goes through puberty at 16 right??) And he hasn't shown that he's an exemplary talent as yet. My actual point is that there is a limit to how unready a player can be before it can have a negative effect on them. Langlois is 3 yrs older and still hasn't been prepared well for the jump to HAL. Our coaches at youth level are pretty trash remember. See below for further on this.

[Frodo]

I absolutely think we should go the Southampton style football structure. Spend as much money on an academy as we do on the first team and then start selling talented youth players off for profits. Get some good coaches in, start smashing the NPL teams with kids and then watch all the other talented kids parents start dragging them over to us.

Also, if they don't allow transfer fees amongst HAL clubs we should start pimping ourselves out to any bigger euro clubs/leagues with first options on talent in exchange for coaches/training packages/loans/pre season games/etc.


Or, go with Members "Athletic Bilbao" style team with only players from the area or with links to the area. The best part of which is the removal of some of the dredge that's floated north from the Gosford sewerage centres.

[Frodo]

Also, not sure if I missed it being posted earlier but Ridenton is on trial with Reading. They are currently mid table in the Championship.

[The Dunster]

That last sentence of yours Member is somewhat along the lines of my thinking this last few days and how the standard of the league and lazy recruiting clubs sign these turnstile type players, The Fitzgeralds, Neville , Paine etc. These blokes get so many chances and the only thing that changes from club to club to club is the color of there shirt and not there consistently flat lined talent for this level.

I think from memory long term ( maybe local ) players after so many continious years of service there contract value only 50% of that figure is included in the cap.

Similarly i think its time and happy to be corrected if dispensation already exists but is it time to offer clubs a mature age rookie from the next level down like your Murrays and sheps etc where say 30% of there contract arrangement is counted toward the cap. Would that type of incentive to clubs see the end of the days where these revolving door players either step up or go back to a standard more suitable to there regular output.

I am no genius but there must be a way to get clubs to stop this offering up career lifelines to these mature age players who's only real ability was once to carve up the beep test and thats about it.

Thoughts ????.

The simple solution is to get rid of the salary cap and any restrictions on foreign players.

[Frodo]

The simple solution is to get rid of the salary cap and any restrictions on foreign players.

Get rid of cap, give a bonus to clubs who play more than a minimum amount of home-grown players (but still remove the restriction) and allow transfer fees between clubs.

[The Dunster]

Get rid of cap, give a bonus to clubs who play more than a minimum amount of home-grown players (but still remove the restriction) and allow transfer fees between clubs.

No. it won't work because you then have to define what a home grown player is - which opens the door for more strategic behaviour by the bigger clubs who will continually reinvent that definition to give themselves an advantage.

Like I said. No salary cap - no restrictions to foreign players.

[MFKS]

No. it won't work because you then have to define what a home grown player is - which opens the door for more strategic behaviour by the bigger clubs who will continually reinvent that definition to give themselves an advantage.

Like I said. No salary cap - no restrictions to foreign players.

I don't think that really gonna matter at the top of the table

Those clubs are already gonna be advantaged as they be able to spend what they want to on talent anyway to get an advantage

To then be able to try and get some one through as naturalized to rort the system ain't gonna be that massive of an area for them to rort anyway


The other thing is I think it is also imperative that our teams have some mandated component of so many Aussies in the First X1 for player development etc

[Frodo]

No. it won't work because you then have to define what a home grown player is - which opens the door for more strategic behaviour by the bigger clubs who will continually reinvent that definition to give themselves an advantage.

Like I said. No salary cap - no restrictions to foreign players.

What? If you've been registered and played at an Aussie club for 3 years before you are 18, you are classed as home grown. That's pretty simple to work out.

And the bonus will only be small anyways. It's just a small incentive for lower teams to keep playing Aussies. Sydney and that can play with 11 foreigners week in and week out and make more money from league position. Clubs at the bottom like us will get benefits from playing Aussies.

Heck, add a clause that if a kid spends 3 years at your academy and makes the Socceroos side you get a bonus. Etc, etc.

[Jetmaster]

Just my thoughts but I have a few misgivings about letting the cap go. We know Sydney and the two Melbournes will buy everyone in sight and dominate the league. But - who will they play against is the long term?

Unlike in Europe where long suffering fans will go and watch Watford and Bournemouth see the big 6 with no hope of winning anything, but with the comfort of TV money and a strong fallback league - here, culturally we have no back up. We can say the strongest survive and the Jets, Mariners and Phoenix et all will fall by the wayside, possibly to an el cheapo second division. But fans here won't give a toss and short of huge money coming in like they have in Japan, USA and India there isn't really anyone else who could step up. Maybe Perth and Wanderers but Adelaide and Brisbane would also struggle. Western is struggling and I have serious doubts about Macarthur.

I don't think fans here could handle a three team league.

[MFKS]

Just my thoughts but I have a few misgivings about letting the cap go. We know Sydney and the two Melbournes will buy everyone in sight and dominate the league. But - who will they play against is the long term?

Unlike in Europe where long suffering fans will go and watch Watford and Bournemouth see the big 6 with no hope of winning anything, but with the comfort of TV money and a strong fallback league - here, culturally we have no back up. We can say the strongest survive and the Jets, Mariners and Phoenix et all will fall by the wayside, possibly to an el cheapo second division. But fans here won't give a toss and short of huge money coming in like they have in Japan, USA and India there isn't really anyone else who could step up. Maybe Perth and Wanderers but Adelaide and Brisbane would also struggle. Western is struggling and I have serious doubts about Macarthur.

I don't think fans here could handle a three team league.

Disagree

Why these clubs are all struggling is straight up down to finances nothing more nothing less

The real reason is that we have a salary cap where clubs are mandated to spend 90% of 3.2 million on player wages

Straight away that is the biggest handicap to clubs being financially viable

Let's remove it and let the club's spend what they want

If the Gypos want to spend 1.5 million on wages then let them
If the Blue Aids want to spend 6 million on wages let them

By having such a high investment in running or owning a club in the HAL the FFA have killed investment in the code. Remove it and allow access in

Once you allow access in we can quickly get to 20 team comp because the current BS is pricing clubs out

[mic22]

So good to see this
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7SHal4l-_s/?igshid=15iar19v2xtrn

Still a long way to go, but better than expected.

[StannyCFCJET]

Disagree

Why these clubs are all struggling is straight up down to finances nothing more nothing less

The real reason is that we have a salary cap where clubs are mandated to spend 90% of 3.2 million on player wages

Straight away that is the biggest handicap to clubs being financially viable

Let's remove it and let the club's spend what they want

If the Gypos want to spend 1.5 million on wages then let them
If the Blue Aids want to spend 6 million on wages let them

By having such a high investment in running or owning a club in the HAL the FFA have killed investment in the code. Remove it and allow access in

Once you allow access in we can quickly get to 20 team comp because the current BS is pricing clubs out

So you want it where 7/10 clubs can't afford good players and only both Melbourne's and Sydney win the thing

[Frodo]

So you want it where 7/10 clubs can't afford good players and only both Melbourne's and Sydney win the thing

That's his football works everywhere in the world and it strives. Our comp is falling because of tall poppy syndrome.

Plus, small clubs can go on and win titles. Just look at the 04/05 EPL season. You can be a club with a small fanbase and still compete for titles.

[Frodo]

So you want it where 7/10 clubs can't afford good players and only both Melbourne's and Sydney win the thing

Also, my first priority every season is to finish about the Gypos. Winning the league or GF is a bonus behind the one true goal. I couldn't even tell you which clubs have and haven't won a GF, cause I don't care about it. I know City, Sydney and Adelaide have won the FFA cup however. (Maybe someone else did to a few years back.

[Jetmaster]

That's his football works everywhere in the world and it strives. Our comp is falling because of tall poppy syndrome.

Plus, small clubs can go on and win titles. Just look at the 04/05 EPL season. You can be a club with a small fanbase and still compete for titles.

I agree with all the Member says but what I'm trying to say is I don't think it will work in Oz like it does around the world - we are still small fry here and I doubt there will be massive investment outside Sydney and Melbourne. And I do believe the sporting public here will give up if they are outside those cities who will have nobody to play.

[StannyCFCJET]

That's his football works everywhere in the world and it strives. Our comp is falling because of tall poppy syndrome.

Plus, small clubs can go on and win titles. Just look at the 04/05 EPL season. You can be a club with a small fanbase and still compete for titles.

It may work everywhere but It won't work down under IMO. As for your barb. Keep living in the past while we keep making history

[Frodo]

I agree with all the Member says but what I'm trying to say is I don't think it will work in Oz like it does around the world - we are still small fry here and I doubt there will be massive investment outside Sydney and Melbourne. And I do believe the sporting public here will give up if they are outside those cities who will have nobody to play.

I can see your point 100%. But I think since we are already circling the drain we may as well take the training wheels off and see how it fairs with real competition. Sydney aren't going to spend stupid straight away considering how easy the comp already is, so I can't see it being an instant explosion.


It may work everywhere but It won't work down under IMO. As for your barb. Keep living in the past while we keep making history

Haha, lol. Easy fishing as always.

[StannyCFCJET]

I can see your point 100%. But I think since we are already circling the drain we may as well take the training wheels off and see how it fairs with real competition. Sydney aren't going to spend stupid straight away considering how easy the comp already is, so I can't see it being an instant explosion.



Haha, lol. Easy fishing as always.

Fishing would be saying Arsenal never had an undefeated season. Which would be true as you were knocked out of all cup comps.

[The Dunster]

Removing the salary cap and restrictions on foreign players is unlikely to see an explosion in wages like some here are assuming . The only way wages will increase in aggregate is if new money is brought in to accommodate it.
Given the next broadcast deal may not be so great and a world wide recession is making investors nervous at all levels I think it's more likely wages will fall.

[StannyCFCJET]

Removing the salary cap and restrictions on foreign players is unlikely to see an explosion in wages like some here are assuming . The only way wages will increase in aggregate is if new money is brought in to accommodate it.
Given the next broadcast deal may not be so great and a world wide recession is making investors nervous at all levels I think it's more likely wages will fall.

Will make foreigners less likely to come here I reckon

[MFKS]

So you want it where 7/10 clubs can't afford good players and only both Melbourne's and Sydney win the thing

Isn't that what we have now??

Even capital city sides like Adelaide and Roar and Perth can not compete financially with the Sydney/Melbourne teams

Last I looked also Blue Aids n Victree keep winning and it ain't changing soon either


This comp started dying the day they started tampering with the Salary Cap is season 3 to let Blue Aids sign Cankles and Disco Stu when they didn't have the budget for them

[Frodo]

Will make foreigners less likely to come here I reckon

Why? It might make money grabbing marquees less likely, because with an open market clubs will be able to get better value for money than the like of Villa or Honda, but quality foreigners will be able to move here more easily.

[Grimario]

Also, my first priority every season is to finish about the Gypos. Winning the league or GF is a bonus behind the one true goal. I couldn't even tell you which clubs have and haven't won a GF, cause I don't care about it. I know City, Sydney and Adelaide have won the FFA cup however. (Maybe someone else did to a few years back.

And this is why we are forever destined to be a shit club.

I would rather it be more like the Man Utd vs Leeds rivalry. We don't give a shit about it because we are vastly superior. **** Leeds, **** the mariners, **** the record and **** the people.

[StannyCFCJET]

And this is why we are forever destined to be a shit club.

I would rather it be more like the Man Utd vs Leeds rivalry. We don't give a shit about it because we are vastly superior. **** Leeds, **** the mariners, **** the record and **** the people.

Id rather always make finals then always beat the Gypos

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight:

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsfitzgerald140120.mp4

[MFKS]

Id rather always make finals then always beat the Gypos

You don't understand what it is to support a club with your statement

That is why it best you support plastic sides like Chelsea

[Frodo]

And this is why we are forever destined to be a shit club.

I would rather it be more like the Man Utd vs Leeds rivalry. We don't give a shit about it because we are vastly superior. **** Leeds, **** the mariners, **** the record and **** the people.

This isn't the reason we are always destined to be a shit club. It's a symptom.

Plus, in order for us to say **** the mariners, we need to actually be better than them. Right now we are half Gypo/half trash.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetmillar170120.mp4

[380]

This isn't the reason we are always destined to be a shit club. It's a symptom.

Plus, in order for us to say **** the mariners, we need to actually be better than them. Right now we are half Gypo/half trash.

This and in actual fact i would say Charlesworth is showing up Martin Lee at present.

[Frodo]

This and in actual fact i would say Charlesworth is showing up Martin Lee at present.

You need to find a new dead horse to beat. McKinna is the reason we are trash, not Mr Lee. Martin isn't the one spending his money on Gypos and telling the media/fans clear lies about how the club is going.

McKinna is the sole reason we are in our current state.

[380]

You need to find a new dead horse to beat. McKinna is the reason we are trash, not Mr Lee. Martin isn't the one spending his money on Gypos and telling the media/fans clear lies about how the club is going.

McKinna is the sole reason we are in our current state.

Tell me Martin Lee's investment in to this club is NOT heading south and i will find a new dead horse to beat. Martin spending the same as he once did is he ?

[Frodo]

Tell me Martin Lee's investment in to this club is NOT heading south and i will find a new dead horse to beat. Martin spending the same as he once did is he ?

A) he gave us a Marquee in Hoolahan. It's not his fault that Wes got injured. Martin Lee is spending enough money on the team. But...

B) there's no point him putting more money into a poorly run club anyway. The twat in charge will just spend it on more Fitzgerald's and Millar's from down the F3, as well as resigning the current crop of mediocre players, to keep us rooted to the bottom of the table.

C) there's no reason why he should need to invest more money into the club. I don't know why you think he should spend more money on a club that should be able to support itself? You're very much on your own there.

[Jetmaster]

Always forgotten that Griff has quite a bit to do with recruitment.

[Tommyjet]

A) he gave us a Marquee in Hoolahan. It's not his fault that Wes got injured. Martin Lee is spending enough money on the team. But...

B) there's no point him putting more money into a poorly run club anyway. The twat in charge will just spend it on more Fitzgerald's and Millar's from down the F3, as well as resigning the current crop of mediocre players, to keep us rooted to the bottom of the table.

C) there's no reason why he should need to invest more money into the club. I don't know why you think he should spend more money on a club that should be able to support itself? You're very much on your own there.

Hoolahan is one of the lowest paid in the squad. He only come here for the new experience.

[Frodo]

Hoolahan is one of the lowest paid in the squad. He only come here for the new experience.

Still a good enough player to replace Vargas. Can't fault Lee (or McKinna even) for getting him in and him getting injured.

[Tommyjet]

Still a good enough player to replace Vargas. Can't fault Lee (or McKinna even) for getting him in and him getting injured.

I agree and generally agree with previous post. A lot of people don't realise how little money it took for Wes to come

[380]

A) he gave us a Marquee in Hoolahan. It's not his fault that Wes got injured. Martin Lee is spending enough money on the team. But...

B) there's no point him putting more money into a poorly run club anyway. The twat in charge will just spend it on more Fitzgerald's and Millar's from down the F3, as well as resigning the current crop of mediocre players, to keep us rooted to the bottom of the table.

C) there's no reason why he should need to invest more money into the club. I don't know why you think he should spend more money on a club that should be able to support itself? You're very much on your own there.

What the hell are you smok'n ?.

Wes is not a marquee in the proper definition of it with his wages not being paid outside the cap.

Clubs like ours like to refer to there key so called big name signings as marquee purely for status purposes but essentially if there deal is counted inside the cap they are not marquee status in the sense of what the marquee status was meant to be.

Our gypo CEO is on record time and time again saying no monies were spent outside the cap meaning both Arroyo and Wes are within the cap and as such do not meet proper marquee status.

As for owing Lee anything, nah man i don't pay by the month he has my monies in full LOL.

[Frodo]

What the hell are you smok'n ?.

Wes is not a marquee in the proper definition of it with his wages not being paid outside the cap.

Clubs like ours like to refer to there key so called big name signings as marquee purely for status purposes but essentially if there deal is counted inside the cap they are not marquee status in the sense of what the marquee status was meant to be.

Our gypo CEO is on record time and time again saying no monies were spent outside the cap meaning both Arroyo and Wes are within the cap and as such do not meet proper marquee status.

As for owing Lee anything, nah man i don't pay by the month he has my monies in full LOL.

Ok, so if that's the case and we managed to keep him inside the cap, well played by all involved. I know he's on low wages, but we still replaced Vargas with a most likely better player in Wessi.

The point still stands that Martin doesn't have to spend money outside the cap and if he chooses not to, so be it. There's plenty of players in our squad that are bringing us down further than any true marquee could improve us.

Gut the squad and find a CEO who knows what he's doing and we will be doing better than we would by adding any marquee to this current group.

[Grimario]

Ok, so if that's the case and we managed to keep him inside the cap, well played by all involved. I know he's on low wages, but we still replaced Vargas with a most likely better player in Wessi.

The point still stands that Martin doesn't have to spend money outside the cap and if he chooses not to, so be it. There's plenty of players in our squad that are bringing us down further than any true marquee could improve us.

Gut the squad and find a CEO who knows what he's doing and we will be doing better than we would by adding any marquee to this current group.

The problem I see with our squad is we have just become a club for recycled players to get another year or two at. I really hope whoever comes in next is pretty ruthless and has an eye on youth. If we are going to consider a shit journeyman winger good enough, we sure as hell should consider a young player with zero A-League street cred good enough.

[MFKS]

The problem I see with our squad is we have just become a club for recycled players to get another year or two at. I really hope whoever comes in next is pretty ruthless and has an eye on youth. If we are going to consider a shit journeyman winger good enough, we sure as hell should consider a young player with zero A-League street cred good enough.

Precisely right

But here is the other thing

When we were going well we didn't build on it

Who did we sign after making the GF??

No one

We then resigned a pile of blokes who over achieved

Right now we got a squad full of players not earning their wages
Dimi Hoff Topor Kanta Ugarkovic not one of them is earning 100% of their wage at the moment

Instead of being ruthless in 2018 and looking to build the Gypo CEO and Berts decisions are now coming back to bite us on the arse

[Frodo]

Huge problem is that we have zero scouting network. We only look at players that are offered to us, and never go in search of what we actually need.

We sign the likes of Fitzgerald because we didn't have any other options to compare him with. We needed a body, he was available for low wages and we don't have to spend time and money going out and finding anybody better. Shit mentality, bit exactly what if expect from our current and past CEO.

[StannyCFCJET]

Huge problem is that we have zero scouting network. We only look at players that are offered to us, and never go in search of what we actually need.

We sign the likes of Fitzgerald because we didn't have any other options to compare him with. We needed a body, he was available for low wages and we don't have to spend time and money going out and finding anybody better. Shit mentality, bit exactly what if expect from our current and past CEO.

Alot of the blame has to go to Griff as well sadly

[anfield]

Hoolahan is one of the lowest paid in the squad. He only come here for the new experience.

Surely he would have to be on decent money, at least 150k?

[anfield]

Huge problem is that we have zero scouting network. We only look at players that are offered to us, and never go in search of what we actually need.

We sign the likes of Fitzgerald because we didn't have any other options to compare him with. We needed a body, he was available for low wages and we don't have to spend time and money going out and finding anybody better. Shit mentality, bit exactly what if expect from our current and past CEO.

I was concerned when we signed Fitzgerald.
Decent player, but poor goalscoring record. This has proved the case at the jets, He hasn't scored a goal yet in the league.

[Tommyjet]

Surely he would have to be on decent money, at least 150k?

Nah he basically came to jets management and said he has earned enough money in his career. He is on minimum salary plus his rent is paid for. I don't know what the minimum is but yeah it's around that figure.
He just wants a new experience

[MFKS]

Huge problem is that we have zero scouting network. We only look at players that are offered to us, and never go in search of what we actually need.

We sign the likes of Fitzgerald because we didn't have any other options to compare him with. We needed a body, he was available for low wages and we don't have to spend time and money going out and finding anybody better. Shit mentality, bit exactly what if expect from our current and past CEO.

Other issue is that agents are also involved

I would love to know who's agent Fitzuseless is

Because it wouldn't surprise me if he is managed by someone who also manages someone in our squad

This is a much bigger issue than most fans are aware

Players are offered to clubs as clubs have relationships with agents

I be backing most of our signings in the last 10 years have come from agents with good relationships with people at the Jets at the time dropping people in our laps

[The Dunster]

Other issue is that agents are also involved

I would love to know who's agent Fitzuseless is

Because it wouldn't surprise me if he is managed by someone who also manages someone in our squad


I think you are onto something here member.

He's managed by Avid who also look after:

Dimi Petratos
Kaine Shepherd
Kosta Petratos
Patrick Langlois
Makis Petratos; and
Nick Fitzgerald

[Tommyjet]

Was it Tony rallis who has/had a very close agent/mgmt relationship with mckinna.

[The Dunster]

Was it Tony rallis who has/had a very close agent/mgmt relationship with mckinna.

Yes: Football House Plus:

Ridenton and Millar are managed by them.

Other past Jets with them include:

Andrew Hoole
Mario Shabow
Andrew Nabbout
Daniel Georgevski
Taylor Reagan
Patricio Rodriguez [Intermediary].

They represent the most players of any group in the A-League - so it's probably not a bad thing if Lawrie has a good relationship with them.

Millar appears to have been Helicoptered in for Georgevski - so the Jets would have been completely screwed on that deal.

Chances of Lawrie not knowing Nabbout was available are practically nil given his relationship with Tony Rallis.

[MFKS]

I think you are onto something here member.

He's managed by Avid who also look after:

Dimi Petratos
Kaine Shepherd
Kosta Petratos
Patrick Langlois
Makis Petratos; and
Nick Fitzgerald
2016 Mourinhio takes over at Man Utd

This will just emphasise how bad Agents can effect a club

In 2016 they signed

Zlatan
Pogba
Mkhyatarian

2017 they signed
Lukaku

There are a lot of square pegs in round holes there and judging by how Mourinhio struggled at Man U they don't all look like his signings

All coincidentally have the same agent

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN on Robinson sightings
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/coachspeculation190120.mp4

[De-Champ]

2016 Mourinhio takes over at Man Utd

This will just emphasise how bad Agents can effect a club

In 2016 they signed

Zlatan
Pogba
Mkhyatarian

2017 they signed
Lukaku

There are a lot of square pegs in round holes there and judging by how Mourinhio struggled at Man U they don't all look like his signings

All coincidentally have the same agent

Not too sure about the agents influence in those signings. It was common knowledge Pogba wanted to go back to United to prove a point, and United wanted himback, not much to do with the agent on that one.. Zlatan is Morinho's adopted son.

[MFKS]

Not too sure about the agents influence in those signings. It was common knowledge Pogba wanted to go back to United to prove a point, and United wanted himback, not much to do with the agent on that one.. Zlatan is Morinho's adopted son.

And maybe as part of the deal they had to take Myhkyatarian ??

Maybe the Lukaku deal was forced on them.as well to keep Pogba settled
Jose didn't rate him.at Chelsea so it was a bizarre decision to bring him in at Man U

[De-Champ]

And maybe as part of the deal they had to take Myhkyatarian ??

Maybe the Lukaku deal was forced on them.as well to keep Pogba settled
Jose didn't rate him.at Chelsea so it was a bizarre decision to bring him in at Man U

maybe, maybe, maybe they were just bad buys, like the rest of the bad buys over the last how many years.

[Frodo]

maybe, maybe, maybe they were just bad buys, like the rest of the bad buys over the last how many years.

Well since they sold Lukaku and Mhki they've signed some much better players and Pogba has completely turned to shit and will definitely be leaving soon. Both of which kind of prove Membahs point.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Deans
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsdeans210120.mp4

[MFKS]

maybe, maybe, maybe they were just bad buys, like the rest of the bad buys over the last how many years.

Myhkyatarian wasn't necessarily a bad buy at the time. When he arrived he was doing pretty well in the Bundesliga with Dortmund and had more or less earned the big money move to a big club

Lukaku scored 17 goals for West Brom then for Everton 15 -10-18--25 in the EPL and was just turning 24 when he joined Man Utd so the bloke had a pretty good record in the EPL

Neither on paper are bad signings as such in theory

Both though were square pegs in round holes at the club though

[sorefootballer]

Any news about the shitty Jets squad? Or we moved to banging on about epl rubbish?

[De-Champ]

Myhkyatarian wasn't necessarily a bad buy at the time. When he arrived he was doing pretty well in the Bundesliga with Dortmund and had more or less earned the big money move to a big club

Lukaku scored 17 goals for West Brom then for Everton 15 -10-18--25 in the EPL and was just turning 24 when he joined Man Utd so the bloke had a pretty good record in the EPL

Neither on paper are bad signings as such in theory

Both though were square pegs in round holes at the club though

I agree with the above analysis. By bad buy I did not mean it to not mean bad player, bad buy means the player does not fit in with the club playing style.

[De-Champ]

Well since they sold Lukaku and Mhki they've signed some much better players and Pogba has completely turned to shit and will definitely be leaving soon. Both of which kind of prove Membahs point.

Are you sure about that? Man utd will be rebuilding for a long time yet.

[Frodo]

Are you sure about that? Man utd will be rebuilding for a long time yet.

Who said anything about rebuilding. Member was talking about agent power. Once United broke free of the agent in question (Raiole) they seem to be heading down a different and arguably better path.

The point was that the agent was controlling who United purchased almost. We don't want to go down the same path of being dictated by a single agent.

[MFKS]

Who said anything about rebuilding. Member was talking about agent power. Once United broke free of the agent in question (Raiole) they seem to be heading down a different and arguably better path.

The point was that the agent was controlling who United purchased almost. We don't want to go down the same path of being dictated by a single agent.

I think it is also laziness on behalf of the club's

We use agents to deliver us players instead of scouting players ourselves

So as a result the players are more or less dropped in Gypo CEO and our Manager if we had ones lap

That is a big problem as we are only getting access to what comes our way

[turbojetfireV8]

And on a whogivesafukkaboutManU note, NBN Bobby:

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsbobby220120.mp4

[380]

I think it is also laziness on behalf of the club's

We use agents to deliver us players instead of scouting players ourselves

So as a result the players are more or less dropped in Gypo CEO and our Manager if we had ones lap

That is a big problem as we are only getting access to what comes our way

Bang on, It is lazy recruiting that sees clubs like ours provide the likes of Fitzuseless his 37th opportunity at this level as opposed to getting around the NPL's and identifying a prospect and at the very least provide them with one.

[Bon]

So the Jerks facey page has just posted that "Squad news is coming"...
Is that in regard to the team for tomorrow? Or news on a signing/sacking/cleanse the whole setup???

[StannyCFCJET]

So the Jerks facey page has just posted that "Squad news is coming"...
Is that in regard to the team for tomorrow? Or news on a signing/sacking/cleanse the whole setup???

Team news as the women's did the same thing

[The Dunster]

It will just be who ever the player managers have selected to play tomorrow.

[MFKS]

So the Jerks facey page has just posted that "Squad news is coming"...
Is that in regard to the team for tomorrow? Or news on a signing/sacking/cleanse the whole setup???

Probably announcing that instead of wasting everyone's time by flying to NZ the Jets have decided it be easier all round to forfeit and take a 3-0 loss on the chin

[Jetmaster]

Worth listening to the latest Fox podcast - Adam Peacock talking to SFC and Perth CEOs.

A little Sydney-centric but you hear how they manage their squads, salary cap concessions, transfers etc.

Compare away lads!

[Jeterpool]

Worth listening to the latest Fox podcast - Adam Peacock talking to SFC and Perth CEOs.

A little Sydney-centric but you hear how they manage their squads, salary cap concessions, transfers etc.

Compare away lads!

I found it very interesting. The concessions for academy and legacy players makes it worthwhile investing in someone if they perform well - only if you can afford to pay over the cap!

I was intrigued by the "banking" salary cap discussion. I stand by what I've been saying for ages - that's exactly what I reckon we are doing this year for a new coach next season.

[Jetmaster]

I found it very interesting. The concessions for academy and legacy players makes it worthwhile investing in someone if they perform well - only if you can afford to pay over the cap!

I was intrigued by the "banking" salary cap discussion. I stand by what I've been saying for ages - that's exactly what I reckon we are doing this year for a new coach next season.

I knew nothing about "banking".

I would love to see the SFC "live" salary spreadsheet they discussed!

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Boogs back in the mix
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsboogs230120.mp4

[belchardo]

Tarek has left the wanderers. We should try to get him.

[Tommyjet]

Tarek has left the wanderers. We should try to get him.

Heard he going to Perth

[turbojetfireV8]

Tarek has left the wanderers. We should try to get him.

another team's reject again? isn't there a whole thread somewhere on here devoted to why we shouldn't be picking up players like this???

[MFKS]

Tarek has left the wanderers. We should try to get him.

He was a State League player 3 or 4 years ago when he was at Adelaide

Nothing has changed in that time but he older and slower

[380]

Connor O Toole apparently

Wonder what agents were involved

[Tommyjet]

Connor O Toole apparently

Wonder what agents were involved

Thought he was a decent talent last season but just hasn't got a look in under Fowler.

[The Dunster]

He was a State League player 3 or 4 years ago when he was at Adelaide

Nothing has changed in that time but he older and slower

So a five year contract then ?

[turbojetfireV8]

time's running out to get Roy in on a loan deal Jets, Arroyo setting him up for sitters would be much sweeter to watch than the Hoff Lawrie...

[Jeterpool]

time's running out to get Roy in on a loan deal Jets, Arroyo setting him up for sitters would be much sweeter to watch than the Hoff Lawrie...

If we persist with the back 3 Roy would be a welcome addition alongside Arroyo.

Arroyo tends to naturally drift wide anyway...

[Hunter403]

Looks like we have signed a player from Roar but it's not Roy.

[anfield]

Connor O Toole apparently

Wonder what agents were involved

Looks like a handy addition, but do we need 3 guys in the squad that can play left back? Maybe a deal at the end of the year when Burns returns to Scotland would have been better. That would leave O Toole and Johnny K battling for left back.
I would have looked for a decent left winger.

[Frodo]

Looks like a handy addition, but do we need 3 guys in the squad that can play left back? Maybe a deal at the end of the year when Burns returns to Scotland would have been better. That would leave O Toole and Johnny K battling for left back.
I would have looked for a decent left winger.

Johnny K isn't a LB. He's been doing a job there as Burns took 6 months to get game fit... As is tradition round here.

Sign O'Toole, release Burns and use that Visa spot elsewhere.

[380]

Why all the love for a Roy return ?. He has been terrible at Roar when given game time in between injuries. If he had of stayed and put in similar performances here we would be saying how we should have cut him loose. The only thing he still had going for him at the Roar was his ability to give a good thumbs up to all the good service he was getting and wasting.

[Hunter403]

Why all the love for a Roy return ?. He has been terrible at Roar when given game time in between injuries. If he had of stayed and put in similar performances here we would be saying how we should have cut him loose. The only thing he still had going for him at the Roar was his ability to give a good thumbs up to all the good service he was getting and wasting.

I guess it is the hope that he won't miss as many as Hoff

[Couscous]

The new coach will almost certainly not want Roy. We have younger players who should be playing instead.

[MFKS]

The new coach will almost certainly not want Roy. We have younger players who should be playing instead.

Like who,?

[Frodo]

FB says we've signed O'Toole.

I will admit, LB has been an issue this year. We've signed one. Still doesn't fix the issue of why the heck we signed Burns, but hopefully we cut him and use that Visa spot more wisely. And by more wisely I don't mean another bench player like Ridenton.

If we get rid of Ridenton and Moss, who both don't deserve visa spots, that will clean up some of the damage Gypo CEO has been doing.

[StannyCFCJET]

FB says we've signed O'Toole.

I will admit, LB has been an issue this year. We've signed one. Still doesn't fix the issue of why the heck we signed Burns, but hopefully we cut him and use that Visa spot more wisely. And by more wisely I don't mean another bench player like Ridenton.

If we get rid of Ridenton and Moss, who both don't deserve visa spots, that will clean up some of the damage Gypo CEO has been doing.

Moss isnt a visa player, He has a dual passport

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Deans might play Wes??

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsdeans270120.mp4

[Frodo]

Also, for those mocking the Roy links. He's not wanted at the Roar but still has 6 goals in 12 games.

Add those 6 goals to our team and we are probably ahead of the Gypos. Roy is over the hill and no decent team should be starting him, but we aren't a decent team. The alternative is Hoffman and Fitzgerald starting.

[furns]

FB says we've signed O'Toole.

I will admit, LB has been an issue this year. We've signed one. Still doesn't fix the issue of why the heck we signed Burns, but hopefully we cut him and use that Visa spot more wisely. And by more wisely I don't mean another bench player like Ridenton.

If we get rid of Ridenton and Moss, who both don't deserve visa spots, that will clean up some of the damage Gypo CEO has been doing.
Are we watching different players? Admittedly it took a while for him to acclimate but since Burns came in hes been solid in both attack and defence. I would be sad to see him go personally, it would depend what could be worked out with Hearts.

[380]

Also, for those mocking the Roy links. He's not wanted at the Roar but still has 6 goals in 12 games.

Add those 6 goals to our team and we are probably ahead of the Gypos. Roy is over the hill and no decent team should be starting him, but we aren't a decent team. The alternative is Hoffman and Fitzgerald starting.

What links ?. Of those 6 goals 3 of them are pens.

[Frodo]

Are we watching different players? Admittedly it took a while for him to acclimate but since Burns came in hes been solid in both attack and defence. I would be sad to see him go personally, it would depend what could be worked out with Hearts.

The season is pretty much over already, he missed it. He had absolutely no-one to compete against in his position and couldn't get game time. He's up there with some of the biggest flops this club has seen. The only reason he looks ok now, is because this team is easily the worst in the league and he replaced a kid who was being out of position.

Compare him to George and you'll see how bad he really is. O'Toole will most likely walk into the starting 11 and Burns will be forgotten real quick.

[Frodo]

What links ?. Of those 6 goals 3 of them are pens.

Pens are still worth the same as other goals last time I checked.

[anfield]

Are we watching different players? Admittedly it took a while for him to acclimate but since Burns came in hes been solid in both attack and defence. I would be sad to see him go personally, it would depend what could be worked out with Hearts.

I agree with you mate, anyway we can't just go cutting players with a contract. This isn't the Serie A, we have a salary cap in place. Give Burns till the end of the season and see how everything pan's out. Now we have an excess of left backs (yes I know Johnny K isn't a natural left back).

We should have looked at getting an exciting left winger, someone who might have put one of the 28 shots we had on the weekend in the net. Someone that might stop the opposition right back bombing on week in week out. A player that gives the fans some hope for the rest of the year and beyond.

The new coach must have been appointed, as I can't see the club sanctioning a deal for O'Toole without his knowledge. Given he will be coaching the player next year.

[380]

Pens are still worth the same as other goals last time I checked.

That they are but pretty cheap stats for a striker however. At least that part of his game has improved at Brisvegas.

[380]

Are we watching different players? Admittedly it took a while for him to acclimate but since Burns came in hes been solid in both attack and defence. I would be sad to see him go personally, it would depend what could be worked out with Hearts.

This. With the exception of George on this side on occasion i would say Burns had been the most serviceable we have had at LB in a very long time. IMO one of the best at delivering a ball in from out wide.

[Frodo]

Burns is slower than Boogs, his fitness is horrendous (Every time he ventured forward he would be blowing instantly), is terrible in the air... BUT has a really good cross, add in him being nothing special in the tackle and I'm not impressed by him. He just looks ok right now because of who he's replaced and how bad the rest of the team is.

[MFKS]

Burns is slower than Boogs, his fitness is horrendous (Every time he ventured forward he would be blowing instantly), is terrible in the air... BUT has a really good cross, add in him being nothing special in the tackle and I'm not impressed by him. He just looks ok right now because of who he's replaced and how bad the rest of the team is.

As for his great crosses...

Yeah they may look pretty but the most important thing when crossing is to put it into a space that your players can attack

Exactly how many of Burns crosses found a team mate??

Zero

They all miss the mark no matter how well flights they look

[Jeterpool]

Exactly how many of Burns crosses found a team mate??

Zero



Actually, it's 8 (according to A-League website). At an Accuracy of 23.5%

Lets just keep facts

[MFKS]

Actually, it's 8 (according to A-League website). At an Accuracy of 23.5%

Lets just keep facts

It was Hoffman that he picked out

About on par with turning over possession anyway

[Frodo]

Just saw that we have the equal 2nd oldest squad in the HAL (Perth are 1st and Victory and us are 2nd) So we are paying blokes who both aren't good enough and clearly are too old to improve on that level.

Fold the club. Or at least gut this squad and start again.

[MFKS]

Just saw that we have the equal 2nd oldest squad in the HAL (Perth are 1st and Victory and us are 2nd) So we are paying blokes who both aren't good enough and clearly are too old to improve on that level.

Fold the club. Or at least gut this squad and start again.

Moss Topor Boogaard Hoff

All been around for what 10 /15 years at thus level

Kanta Dimi also been around for heaps as well

[pv4]

Just saw that we have the equal 2nd oldest squad in the HAL (Perth are 1st and Victory and us are 2nd) So we are paying blokes who both aren't good enough and clearly are too old to improve on that level.

And yet there were several weeks in a row, Ernie blamed us having too young a squad to achieve results.

[The Dunster]

And yet there were several weeks in a row, Ernie blamed us having too young a squad to achieve results.

I think by too young he meant shit.

[Couscous]

Just saw that we have the equal 2nd oldest squad in the HAL

The new coach will change this.

[StannyCFCJET]

And yet there were several weeks in a row, Ernie blamed us having too young a squad to achieve results.

Ernie was full of shit with the stuff he was saying this season

[cobra23]

This. With the exception of George on this side on occasion i would say Burns had been the most serviceable we have had at LB in a very long time. IMO one of the best at delivering a ball in from out wide.

disagree,

i thought VUJICA was a fantastic crosser of the ball. he was a player that delivered the ball with intent

[Frodo]

And yet there were several weeks in a row, Ernie blamed us having too young a squad to achieve results.

Well he couldn't exactly tell the truth could he?

Reporter: Why did you lose Ernie?
Ernie: Because i'm working with an NPL team with a couple of HAL level players sprinkled throughout.
R: Well why dont you sign anyone better?
E: Have you met the blokes in charge of recruitment around here? And have you seen how much cash we have left over to buy anyone?
R: Ask the owner for more money?
E: He's had the place for sale for over a year now. He ain't adding anymore funds to what he would think is a sinking ship.
R: Fair point Ernie, enjoy your payout when it comes through.
E: (Looks blankly at reporter and shuffles away groaning.)

[Aegon]

It was Hoffman that he picked out

About on par with turning over possession anyway

Amazing how you can continually see facts in a way to suit your agenda.

[The Dunster]

Connor O Toole apparently

Wonder what agents were involved

International Alliances represent him. They don't represent anyone else in the Jets system.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN last night on Moss retiring
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmossy290120.mp4

[baldrick]

Whoops put this in the wrong thread :blush:

Lachy out indefinitely

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/a-league-jackson-miss-indefinite-period

[MFKS]

Whoops put this in the wrong thread :blush:

Lachy out indefinitely

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/a-league-jackson-miss-indefinite-period

No great loss

Boogaard is back

[Jetmaster]

Roar confirm they will let Roy go.

Yes/No?

[MFKS]

Roar confirm they will let Roy go.

Yes/No?

This is ****ed up

We are discussing whether to sign a bloke who we thought wasn't good enough for us last season

Only at the Jets

[Jetmaster]

This is ****ed up

We are discussing whether to sign a bloke who we thought wasn't good enough for us last season

Only at the Jets

Just asking the question.

A simple "no" would suffice....

[mic22]

Mixed feelings .
Based on current form (and history), no.
But we desperately need someone who can score goals.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight on double header
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetstopor310120.mp4

[riverboy]

This is ****ed up

We are discussing whether to sign a bloke who we thought wasn't good enough for us last season

Only at the Jets

Seriously, Roy was offered a one year deal last year. I'm sure nobody at the time doubted this move. If he was at the jets this year I'm sure the jets would be on a higher amount of points then they currently are.
Anyone that says different probably are telling porkies....

[380]

Seriously, Roy was offered a one year deal last year. I'm sure nobody at the time doubted this move. If he was at the jets this year I'm sure the jets would be on a higher amount of points then they currently are.
Anyone that says different probably are telling porkies....

Not really, I have watched all of Brisvegas's games this season and he has been ordinary at best when he has featured in there match day squad and made it onto the park. His form has been terrible hence why he firstly found himself on the bench and ultimately completely out of the squad.

The truth is if he were to go well here it would be a welcome form reversal on what he produced at the Roar.

According to the latest news he has done a deal to return to the Jets just in time before the window closed. 18 month deal apparently.

Maybe we need a thumbs up count not too dissimilar to the RBB's goal count for Roy

Bert must be kick'n back thinking WTF is this amateur hour shite with the club letting him go under him only to bring him back half a season later FFS. Bloke sitting back sipping his Lagavulin not knowing whether to lough or cry at the decision making of club management.


Potential upside, No more Hoff in a advanced role ( all for the bloke at FB ) and the biggest win , Fitzuseless told there is no starting spot for him and find his 37th club in the HAL or more to his standard Blacktown or Marconi.

[turbojetfireV8]

According to the latest news he has done a deal to return to the Jets just in time before the window closed. 18 month deal apparently.



https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/a-league-odonovan-returns-18-month-deal

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/sites/new/files/2020-01/GettyImages-1136131837.jpghttps://www.newcastlejets.com.au/sites/new/files/2020-01/GettyImages-1136131837.jpg

[Retro Jet]

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/a-league-odonovan-returns-18-month-deal

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/sites/new/files/2020-01/GettyImages-1136131837.jpghttps://www.newcastlejets.com.au/sites/new/files/2020-01/GettyImages-1136131837.jpg

Yep...email 11:52pm my Inbox. I wonder if that's when the deal was finalised too...
:blush:
Gives new meaning to the 11th hour lol

[turbojetfireV8]

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au//sites/new/files/2020-01/Unknown-47.jpeg

[turbojetfireV8]

as much as I love the Hoff this is definitely a better option up front, and he'll be back just in time for the derby :wub:

[mic22]

Can he play today? :D

[riverboy]

Not really, I have watched all of Brisvegas's games this season and he has been ordinary at best when he has featured in there match day squad and made it onto the park. His form has been terrible hence why he firstly found himself on the bench and ultimately completely out of the squad.

The truth is if he were to go well here it would be a welcome form reversal on what he produced at the Roar.

According to the latest news he has done a deal to return to the Jets just in time before the window closed. 18 month deal apparently.

Maybe we need a thumbs up count not too dissimilar to the RBB's goal count for Roy

Bert must be kick'n back thinking WTF is this amateur hour shite with the club letting him go under him only to bring him back half a season later FFS. Bloke sitting back sipping his Lagavulin not knowing whether to lough or cry at the decision making of club management.


Potential upside, No more Hoff in a advanced role ( all for the bloke at FB ) and the biggest win , Fitzuseless told there is no starting spot for him and find his 37th club in the HAL or more to his standard Blacktown or Marconi.

He scored 11 goals in 19 games last year, On that evidence he was wanted for this year.

[Aegon]

Now watch all the same people who whined when he left whine now that he has returned.
Twitter/Facebook logic......

[Tommyjet]

Now watch all the same people who whined when he left whine now that he has returned.
Twitter/Facebook logic......

I'm looking forward to hearing it from the old bloke behind me at the games. I'd love $1 for the amount of times I heard "how many chances can one bloke screw up?". For some reason he hasn't been doing it for Hoffman.

Now waiting for mckinna to install himself as Gaffa because we spent too much on players

[MFKS]

So we are coming stone motherless last we don't have a coach for some reason yet we are signing players??

WTF is going on??

Roy was deemed surplus last season now we go running back to him like some beta male simp ex lover does when he can't find anything new and we sign him for next year too so our new coach is stuck with him as well

We also sign some bloke Roar deemed that shit they got rid of him to bring in the head huntef Corey Brown in who was an epic failure at Victree

Even for us this is some next level inconpetence

[Aegon]

Roy was deemed surplus last season now we go running back to him like some beta male simp ex lover does when he can't find anything new and we sign him for next year too so our new coach is stuck with him as well

Even for us this is some next level inconpetence

Never let facts get in the way, hey?

Roy was offered a contract. He turned it down in favour of better terms from the Roar.

I don’t even know where to start on your last sentence....

[Jetmaster]

Am reasonably comfortable with this. Let's face it...

* End of transfer window, who else are you going to get?
* He would be here on reduced coin after a Roar payout.
* This is really his last chance anywhere.
* Our back ups are nothing to write home about.
* This gives us a fall back for when Arroyo leaves - we can then seriously look at another striker for next season.
* If the Robinson deal is almost done he would have been consulted.
* Roy was dropped too quickly to be based soley on form - I have no doubt this is similar to McDonald and he told Fowler he was a line snorter or similar at training one night.
* Roy and Wes should click.

If he can beat the Gypos again next week all is forgiven.

[MFKS]

Never let facts get in the way, hey?

Roy was offered a contract. He turned it down in favour of better terms from the Roar.

I don’t even know where to start on your last sentence....

He still wasn't wanted by the Jets so don't let's facts get in the way if it

If Bert and Gypo wanted him they would have offered a suitable deal to keep him wouldn't they

They were in negotiations and the Jets walked away and withdrew their offer to him

So he ended up at Roar because he wasn't wanted enough here

[Frodo]

He still wasn't wanted by the Jets so don't let's facts get in the way if it

If Bert and Gypo wanted him they would have offered a suitable deal to keep him wouldn't they

They were in negotiations and the Jets walked away and withdrew their offer to him

So he ended up at Roar because he wasn't wanted enough here

So, we offered him a deal and you come to the conclusion that we didn't want him?

That's some nice logic you've got there.

[The Hacker]

He still wasn't wanted by the Jets so don't let's facts get in the way if it

If Bert and Gypo wanted him they would have offered a suitable deal to keep him wouldn't they

They were in negotiations and the Jets walked away and withdrew their offer to him

So he ended up at Roar because he wasn't wanted enough here

I don’t get this. We offer him a contract and cause our owner is a tight ass we can’t match the Roar’s offer. I bet Bert wanted him but cause he only had peanuts in the purse he misses out. We wanted him just we are so poorly run.
When Roy scores next week and the Member has his member in his hand celebrating we will remind you of the last few posts

[anfield]

As I understand it the jets desperately wanted Roy, But they were only prepared to offer him a one year deal as he turned 34 in August. He wanted a 2 year deal which Brisbane offered.

[MFKS]

I don’t get this. We offer him a contract and cause our owner is a tight ass we can’t match the Roar’s offer. I bet Bert wanted him but cause he only had peanuts in the purse he misses out. We wanted him just we are so poorly run.
When Roy scores next week and the Member has his member in his hand celebrating we will remind you of the last few posts

It the Gypos

If ain't an achievement to score on them

[380]

As I understand it the jets desperately wanted Roy, But they were only prepared to offer him a one year deal as he turned 34 in August. He wanted a 2 year deal which Brisbane offered.

Thats pretty much it as it was told to us at the time, Was all about contract duration ( 2 season deal ) not the coin. Now after 1/2 a season at Brisvegas struggling for form he is back on a season and a half deal. There is a script in this for another Monty Python offering.

Like the member said , Only at the Jets.

[anfield]

Thats pretty much it as it was told to us at the time, Was all about contract duration ( 2 season deal ) not the coin. Now after 1/2 a season at Brisvegas struggling for form he is back on a season and a half deal. There is a script in this for another Monty Python offering.

Like the member said , Only at the Jets.

It's probably a good deal for both parties

[belchardo]

maybe the jets said to roy "we'll give you an 18 month deal for the same money we offered for the 12 month deal last year".

Roy would know he's probably not going to pick up a better deal than that in the short term. not sure if he has a family - if he does, it's a lot less disruption than moving to vietnam or somewhere similar.

[StannyCFCJET]

maybe the jets said to roy "we'll give you an 18 month deal for the same money we offered for the 12 month deal last year".

Roy would know he's probably not going to pick up a better deal than that in the short term. not sure if he has a family - if he does, it's a lot less disruption than moving to vietnam or somewhere similar.

He has a wife and 1 kid

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Deans on Roy's return (Monday)
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmonday030220.mp4

NBN Roy on his return (Tuesday)

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsroy040220.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Robinson hits town
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/carlrobinson070220.mp4

[Frodo]

So how many minutes do we all think Wessi is gonna get this weekend?

[Grimario]

So how many minutes do we all think Wessi is gonna get this weekend?

0 minutes.

[StannyCFCJET]

So how many minutes do we all think Wessi is gonna get this weekend?
He isn't in the squad

[Frodo]

0 minutes.


He isn't in the squad

I am totally shocked by this. There hasn't been any injury set backs, and he was fit enough to play last week. Surely the club wouldn't lie to us about his availability just to convince some punters to come watch his first Jets game knowing full well that he wouldn't feature? That would be despicable.

[StannyCFCJET]

I am totally shocked by this. There hasn't been any injury set backs, and he was fit enough to play last week. Surely the club wouldn't lie to us about his availability just to convince some punters to come watch his first Jets game knowing full well that he wouldn't feature? That would be despicable.

As am I as we havent been given a reason why

[Hunter403]

Why risk him in a potential hack fest wet derby?

[Jetmaster]

He said himself he only feels 80-90% fit.

He's a pro, he'll play when he is fit. Mad to risk him in heat last week and similar letting him come on to be butchered by Simon.

[380]

As previously mentioned there was no excuse for the club giving any inclination whatsoever he was a chance last weekend. Using the heat excuse is just lame as the extreme temps was predicted long before the club started talking shit up about his inclusion one way or another in all forms of media from TV to electronic rags and we have not heard anything of a setback as Frodo said.

The club has once again exceeded its own benchmark for shit information to its supporters.

[Couscous]

Mad to risk him in heat last week and similar letting him come on to be butchered by Simon.

They are unlikely to occupy the same area of the pitch.

[Jetmaster]

As previously mentioned there was no excuse for the club giving any inclination whatsoever he was a chance last weekend. Using the heat excuse is just lame as the extreme temps was predicted long before the club started talking shit up about his inclusion one way or another in all forms of media from TV to electronic rags and we have not heard anything of a setback as Frodo said.

The club has once again exceeded its own benchmark for shit information to its supporters.

I give up......

[380]

The bloke was not ready contrary to the commentary coming from the club leading up to the W.U. match.

Where is the niggle or setback from last to this weekend that sees him totally out of the squad ???????



Your Quote on the face of it appears rather condescending but at no stage have you offered up any legit reasoning other than the hot weather , Hello look out the frigg'n window or step outside or is M/wether still plus 40 and sun shining at present ????

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN photo gallery v sCCum:
https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2020/02/10/jets-v-mariners-photo-gallery/

Match review:
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsvmariners090220.mp4

Recovery Monday:
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetslatest100220.mp4

[Jeterpool]

A-League Contracts
1 Glen Moss – signed until 19/20
2 Bobby Burns - signed on loan ending 19/20 (Foreign)
3 Jason Hoffman – signed until 21/22
4 Nigel Boogaard – signed until 19/20
5 Ben Kantarovski – signed until 21/22
6 Steven Ugarkovic – signed until 20/21
7 Roy O'Donovan - signed until 20/21 (Foreign)
8 Wes Hoolahan - signed until 19/20 (Foreign)
9 Abdiel Arroyo - signed on loan ending 19/20 (Foreign)
10 Dimitri Petratos – signed until 20/21
11 Nick Fitzgerald - signed until 20/21
14 Kaine Sheppard - signed until 19/20
16 Matt Millar - signed until 20/21
18 John Koutroumbis – signed until 21/22
19 Kosta Petratos - signed until 19/20
20 Lewis Italiano - signed until 19/20
22 Lachlan Jackson – signed until 20/21
23 Matthew Ridenton - signed until 19/20 (Foreign)
24 Joe Champness – signed until 21/22
28 Patrick Langlois – signed until 19/20
29 Connor O'Toole – signed until 20/21
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 21/22
44 Nikolai Topor-Stanley – signed until 20/21

Youth Contracts
25 Jack Simmons - unsure, youth contract (i.e. not first team)
27 Maki Petratos - Youth Contract

23 Spots used, 0 remaining (including 0 visa spot available)

Expiring 19/20
1 Glen Moss – signed until 19/20
2 Bobby Burns - signed on loan ending 19/20 (Foreign)
4 Nigel Boogaard – signed until 19/20
8 Wes Hoolahan - signed until 19/20 (Foreign)
9 Abdiel Arroyo - signed on loan ending 19/20 (Foreign)
14 Kaine Sheppard - signed until 19/20
19 Kosta Petratos - signed until 19/20
20 Lewis Italiano - signed until 19/20
23 Matthew Ridenton - signed until 19/20 (Foreign)
28 Patrick Langlois – signed until 19/20

Expiring 20/21
6 Steven Ugarkovic – signed until 20/21
7 Roy O'Donovan – signed until 20/21 (Foreign)
10 Dimitri Petratos – signed until 20/21
11 Nick Fitzgerald - signed until 20/21
16 Matt Millar - signed until 20/21
22 Lachlan Jackson – signed until 20/21
29 Connor O'Toole – signed until 20/21
44 Nikolai Topor-Stanley – signed until 20/21

Expiring 21/22
3 Jason Hoffman – signed until 21/22
5 Ben Kantarovski – signed until 21/22
18 John Koutroumbis – signed until 21/22
24 Joe Champness – signed until 21/22
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 21/22

[The Dunster]

Will Boogaard go around again or is he looking to retire?

I'd like to see him have another year as I think he's still one of the most technically gifted centre backs in the league.

Besides that he's absolute gold for triggering MFKS.

[Jeterpool]

Will Boogaard go around again or is he looking to retire?

I'd like to see him have another year as I think he's still one of the most technically gifted centre backs in the league.

Besides that he's absolute gold for triggering MFKS.

He's looking alright in a back 3. In a back 4 I'm less-inclined to have him in the team.

And don't worry about the Member - if we keep Fitzy he'll be ok.

[Tommyjet]

He's looking alright in a back 3. In a back 4 I'm less-inclined to have him in the team.

And don't worry about the Member - if we keep Fitzy he'll be ok.

I agree about boogs. Just having a look at whos available in the offseason from avid. Names like ansell, mrcela, Donachie.

[Mark325]

Kanta's out for 6 weeks

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Robinson takes the reins

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsrobinson110220.mp4

[The Dunster]

I agree about boogs. Just having a look at whos available in the offseason from avid. Names like ansell, mrcela, Donachie.

There's a very high probability that Donachie could sign with the Jets given he's represented by Carl's mate from Avid.

[Tommyjet]

There's a very high probability that Donachie could sign with the Jets given he's represented by Carl's mate from Avid.

Can't see him leaving victory for us. I think mrcela or ansell would be more likely.

[Couscous]

Giancarlo Gallifuoco was a good fit for this club.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Kenny Miller

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/kennymiller120220.mp4

[mic22]

Bring Miller back ��

I always knew it...

[The Hacker]

NBN Kenny Miller

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/kennymiller120220.mp4

Last game 3 weeks ago. Get him on the park

[MFKS]

Will Boogaard go around again or is he looking to retire?

I'd like to see him have another year as I think he's still one of the most technically gifted centre backs in the league.

Besides that he's absolute gold for triggering MFKS.

I don't know who.has got less ambition

The fans or the club

Advocating signing a 34 year old centre back to partner a bloke who be 35 in a month for another year

If we sign Boogaard and Topor then we more or less saying we surrender and be fighting the Gypos for the spoon

Don't forget it been 3 seasons we already tried jagging out of these old timers now

[anfield]

I don't know who.has got less ambition

The fans or the club

Advocating signing a 34 year old centre back to partner a bloke who be 35 in a month for another year

If we sign Boogaard and Topor then we more or less saying we surrender and be fighting the Gypos for the spoon

Don't forget it been 3 seasons we already tried jagging out of these old timers now

Arsenal were pretty successful in late 90's and early 2000's with a certain Tony Adams, Martin Keown , Lee Dixon and Nigel Winterburn in defence. They all played into their mid to late 30's. So it has been done before

[Grimario]

Arsenal were pretty successful in late 90's and early 2000's with a certain Tony Adams, Martin Keown , Lee Dixon and Nigel Winterburn in defence. They all played into their mid to late 30's. So it has been done before

But you are talking about guys that were elite at their peak, not one bloke who was barely okay 5 years ago and another who is amazing.

[MFKS]

Arsenal were pretty successful in late 90's and early 2000's with a certain Tony Adams, Martin Keown , Lee Dixon and Nigel Winterburn in defence. They all played into their mid to late 30's. So it has been done before

Arsenal also put Ashley Cole Lauren Sol Campbell etc in when they started to get old


Also they were still doing the business not conceding 2 a game on average and 3 against the ****ing Gypos who barely got the ball in our box last week

[Jetkel]

He’s being held back due to the bogged pitches isn’t he? Not ideal for injury recovery I’d imagine.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN wrap up, Wes on for next week?

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsdrawwsw160220.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Boogs

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmonday170220.mp4

[380]

So who is the midfielder and Striker referred to by the club as hopeful announcements over the next few days for the remainder of this season and perhaps beyond.


Bernie perhaps the striker referred to ?.

Discuss

[evolution]

So who is the midfielder and Striker referred to by the club as hopeful announcements over the next few days for the remainder of this season and perhaps beyond.


Bernie perhaps the striker referred to ?.

Discuss

Bernie Ibini and Joe Ledley is what I have heard

[380]

Bernie Ibini and Joe Ledley is what I have heard

A fit Ledley would tear this league a new one, Wonderful passer of the ball and a " take no shit " attitude which IMO we have missed since Zads or Couscous's favorite player of all time kasey.

Nice if true.

[Mark325]

A ledley/ugarkovic midfield would easily carve this league a new one

[turbojetfireV8]

Any reason Ledley is clubless BTW? He didn't stay at Charlton long (a month or so?). Do we have a visa spot for him to slot him straight in either? I see he's with Avid, so it does make sense he's on the radar I guess. As for Bernie, I guess another gypo in the line-up won't make much difference, though some of us will be riding every f*ck up... ;)

[Tommyjet]

Any reason Ledley is clubless BTW? He didn't stay at Charlton long (a month or so?). Do we have a visa spot for him to slot him straight in either? I see he's with Avid, so it does make sense he's on the radar I guess. As for Bernie, I guess another gypo in the line-up won't make much difference, though some of us will be riding every f*ck up... ;)

Ledley been training with Newport county and was expected to sign there in January.

[380]

Any reason Ledley is clubless BTW? He didn't stay at Charlton long (a month or so?). Do we have a visa spot for him to slot him straight in either? I see he's with Avid, so it does make sense he's on the radar I guess. As for Bernie, I guess another gypo in the line-up won't make much difference, though some of us will be riding every f*ck up... ;)

Is it possible they might pay up front to have Ridenton depart from the remaining few months of his deal thus creating a spot ?.

I also though there was mention made recently of Roy being granted citizinship, Sure he was only weeks away from obtaining that when he was still at the Roar.

[MFKS]

So who is the midfielder and Striker referred to by the club as hopeful announcements over the next few days for the remainder of this season and perhaps beyond.


Bernie perhaps the striker referred to ?.

Discuss

Kenny Miller??

That is the straight up easy striker call

[380]

Classic Jets would be Hoole.

[mic22]

So... all of a sudden we can afford players?
It's round 20 FFS...

[StannyCFCJET]

So... all of a sudden we can afford players?
It's round 20 FFS...

Could always afford players within a budget. Ernie just refused every one offered apparently along with an assistant coach

[380]

Could always afford players within a budget. Ernie just refused every one offered apparently along with an assistant coach

Surely you don't think the money or more to the point the amounts were comparable ?.

I would put my left one on there being a significant difference between then ( for Bert ) and now ( for Carl ). If the rumors eventuate re these two potential signings and the two names being proposed they are a far cry from what both Lawrie and Ernie described as NOT household names but somebody elses squad-dies when Ernie was offered funds to spend notwithstanding Lawrie also went on to say he provided a list of players fer Bert to choose from made up of Olyroos players at other other clubs looking for game time. Bert confirmed as much when he went on to say in a interview one of those was a striker yet to make his A League debut for his current A League club. No player of the caliber of Ledley or Bernie was offered to Bert and any inference of such is just BS eh.

[StannyCFCJET]

Surely you don't think the money or more to the point the amounts were comparable ?.

I would put my left one on there being a significant difference between then ( for Bert ) and now ( for Carl ). If the rumors eventuate re these two potential signings and the two names being proposed they are a far cry from what both Lawrie and Ernie described as NOT household names but somebody elses squad-dies when Ernie was offered funds to spend notwithstanding Lawrie also went on to say he provided a list of players fer Bert to choose from made up of Olyroos players at other other clubs looking for game time. Bert confirmed as much when he went on to say in a interview one of those was a striker yet to make his A League debut for his current A League club. No player of the caliber of Ledley or Bernie was offered to Bert and any inference of such is just BS eh.

Yeah and Beet wouldn't pick Burns and kept picking Johnny at LB and Ridenton so he clearly always makes the right calls

[MFKS]

Surely you don't think the money or more to the point the amounts were comparable ?.

I would put my left one on there being a significant difference between then ( for Bert ) and now ( for Carl ). If the rumors eventuate re these two potential signings and the two names being proposed they are a far cry from what both Lawrie and Ernie described as NOT household names but somebody elses squad-dies when Ernie was offered funds to spend notwithstanding Lawrie also went on to say he provided a list of players fer Bert to choose from made up of Olyroos players at other other clubs looking for game time. Bert confirmed as much when he went on to say in a interview one of those was a striker yet to make his A League debut for his current A League club. No player of the caliber of Ledley or Bernie was offered to Bert and any inference of such is just BS eh.

This is the Jets we talking about

We are and always have been full if shit

Settle down FFS



To believe any of these BS rumours is a bit silly

I still waiting for Terry Veneables to coach us 5 5 5

[The Dunster]

Yeah and Beet wouldn't pick Burns and kept picking Johnny at LB and Ridenton so he clearly always makes the right calls

Ernie was offered crumbs Stanny. Unlike these other jokers he actually gave a shit about the club and the fans. As I said a month or so ago it looks like he was offered Ibini and told them to **** off.
As far as Ridenton and Millar goes - I'd be confident they were brought in because of their manager / reps relationship with Lawrie - not because Ridenton once played under Ernie at the Nix or Ernie wanted Crazy George gone.

It looks like David Baldwin is in charge of player recruitment and matchday team selections at the Jets now - Lawrie is just going along for the ride, and Griff appears to be powerless or in a complete state of couldn't give a shit anymore.

The club is basically now going to be a short term camp for players on Baldwins books that are out of work or looking for a paid holiday in a beachside city.

Regardless of results the club is beyond repair - we have become The Newcastle Mariners - the announcement of a merger can't be far away.

[380]

Yeah and Beet wouldn't pick Burns and kept picking Johnny at LB and Ridenton so he clearly always makes the right calls

Never said he always made the right calls but if you own a tv and seen the interviews with both Lawrie and Bert you would have seen both of them refer to other A League clubs Under 23 players not getting any game time as the quality offered up to Bert. Did you not see those interviews ?.

Like i said if you are suggesting Bert was offered up the sort of quality as being mentioned now you are stretching the truth to the point of creating total BS to just to suit your anti Bert agenda.

I would have been happy to see Bert get his matching orders mid way through last season based on selections and tactics. To cite he had sufficient funds for quality and refused that offer is garbage.

[lil_masi]

We have 5 visa players already. roy/arroyo/wes/bobby/ridenton. One of them will need to be moved on. Lawrie confirmed roy is still a visa player.

Also paying someone for only 9 or so games is obviously gonna be alot less.

[380]

We have 5 visa players already. roy/arroyo/wes/bobby/ridenton. One of them will need to be moved on. Lawrie confirmed roy is still a visa player.

Also paying someone for only 9 or so games is obviously gonna be alot less.

How recently did Lawrie say Roy was still a visa player ?. There was an article late last year in Brisvegas of the Roar being hopeful Roy would have citizenship confirmed during January window just gone.

[lil_masi]

How recently did Lawrie say Roy was still a visa player ?. There was an article late last year in Brisvegas of the Roar being hopeful Roy would have citizenship confirmed during January window just gone.

I think someone asked him on twitter yesterday

[evolution]

I think someone asked him on twitter yesterday

Yep:


Lawrie McKinna
@LawrieMcKinna
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Not yet in the next few months he will have it

[380]

I think someone asked him on twitter yesterday

Cheers for that. I reckon they would give Ridenton a early pass out

[Jeterpool]

Cheers for that. I reckon they would give Ridenton a early pass out

I think so too.

We need to create room in the squad - it's full!

Injury replacement for Jackson and releasing a Visa player (if Ledley is to be believed) is how we'd achieve it.

[Frodo]

Yeah and Beet wouldn't pick Burns and kept picking Johnny at LB and Ridenton so he clearly always makes the right calls

If Burns wasn't so lazy and got himself fit by the start of the season he would have been playing. It's on him that he didn't get game time. The guy is still struggling after 60-70 mins each game still.

Also, Ridenton has barely featured this year. Maybe started 4 games whilst Kanta was returning to fitness I think.

You're trashing our best coach just to suck the d&$k of some coastie scum bag who lies to us every other week to make himself look competent. And doing it with little to no facts as well.

[StannyCFCJET]

If Burns wasn't so lazy and got himself fit by the start of the season he would have been playing. It's on him that he didn't get game time. The guy is still struggling after 60-70 mins each game still.

Also, Ridenton has barely featured this year. Maybe started 4 games whilst Kanta was returning to fitness I think.

You're trashing our best coach just to suck the d&$k of some coastie scum bag who lies to us every other week to make himself look competent. And doing it with little to no facts as well.

So you know personally that Burns was lazy and unfit? because he's played pretty much every game since Ernie left and looked real good most games

[Frodo]

So you know personally that Burns was lazy and unfit? because he's played pretty much every game since Ernie left and looked real good most games

Yes, I know all. Never forget it!


I'm calling him lazy because he turned up unfit, and then it took him half a season to get fit enough to play in a very mediocre level football league. Even now he struggles after 60 mins of a game, blowing hard and going red as a tomato. Bloke is 20 yrs old and less fit than a 34 yr old Topor.

Ernie basically said that Johnny K was a stop gap option, which he was forced to do when he couldn't rely on Bobby.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Yes, I know all. Never forget it!


I'm calling him lazy because he turned up unfit, and then it took him half a season to get fit enough to play in a very mediocre level football league. Even now he struggles after 60 mins of a game, blowing hard and going red as a tomato. Bloke is 20 yrs old and less fit than a 34 yr old Topor.

Ernie basically said that Johnny K was a stop gap option, which he was forced to do when he couldn't rely on Bobby.

Going from playing an EU winter sport to AU Summer sport will do that to you. Takes a while to get used to playing in hell.

[MFKS]

Going from playing an EU winter sport to AU Summer sport will do that to you. Takes a while to get used to playing in hell.

It great supporting this club

Fans make excuses for the players failings

[turbojetfireV8]

that's BS, everyone knew Burns was ready to play except Ernie, it was almost as if he never wanted to sign him in the first place so wasn't playing him to prove a point (an expensive point as Johnny K was absolute rubbish at LB and costing us big time defensively).

I think Burns got subbed last week as the new gaff wants to see as many of his squad in action as he can (Burns has stayed on under Deans when he could have been subbed for being tired, so the kid will stick it out when called to do so). I fully expect the new gaffer to make subs and start them earlier for the rest of the season so he can assess who he can work with and who is surplus to requirements, we aren't a chance of anything apart from avoiding a spoon, so he may as well experiment to get to know his squad...

[Frodo]

that's BS, everyone knew Burns was ready to play except Ernie, it was almost as if he never wanted to sign him in the first place so wasn't playing him to prove a point (an expensive point as Johnny K was absolute rubbish at LB and costing us big time defensively).

I think Burns got subbed last week as the new gaff wants to see as many of his squad in action as he can (Burns has stayed on under Deans when he could have been subbed for being tired, so the kid will stick it out when called to do so). I fully expect the new gaffer to make subs and start them earlier for the rest of the season so he can assess who he can work with and who is surplus to requirements, we aren't a chance of anything apart from avoiding a spoon, so he may as well experiment to get to know his squad...

Um, it was common knowledge that Burns wasn't fit enough when he arrived and Ernie didn't trust him to last 90 mins. Its over halfway through the season and you can see how much he struggles even now with fitness. But at least he can last 90 mins now, hence why he is playing and Johnny K is back on the right and centre where he should be.

Bobby was the reason that Bobby wasn't playing. Not Ernie. You can't expect a coach to sub a fullback at halftime or 60 mins each week, that's a waste of a sub.

[The Dunster]

Burns was walking at the 60min mark last match. Yes he did a lot of work - but he was completely spent and needed to be replaced.

[MFKS]

But is this also down to the way we played under Bert

Georgevski is a fit player but when he was here he used to regularly get subbed under Bert

Don't seem to be getting subbed at WSW now


Biggest problem I got with Burns is he ain't good enough not his fitness

[Bon]

Little more info on the rumours around Ledley and Ibini..
Didn't realise they were looking to get rid of Fitzgerald in order to get Ibini..

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/newcastle-jets-plan-ledley-ibini-double-swoop

[Tommyjet]

Little more info on the rumours around Ledley and Ibini..
Didn't realise they were looking to get rid of Fitzgerald in order to get Ibini..

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/newcastle-jets-plan-ledley-ibini-double-swoop

Probably wants more money than just using the injury replacement of Jackson.

[The Dunster]

Little more info on the rumours around Ledley and Ibini..
Didn't realise they were looking to get rid of Fitzgerald in order to get Ibini..

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/newcastle-jets-plan-ledley-ibini-double-swoop

Fitzgerald and Ibini are handled by the same agent. Unless Fitzgerald is dumping them or vice versa the report doesn't really add up.
As for Ibini - No. He's talented but the last thing we need is paying a big wage to someone that sits out the season inured.

THe only good thing here is that if Ibini does get signed and it all goes to shit it might be enough for Mr Lee to finally tell Lawrie to **** off.

[Frodo]

So we are gonna sign an injured Gypo and a semi-injured old Welsh bloke who's played 1 game of football in the last 12 months?

Classic Jets.

Actually, Classic Jets would be to sign Ledley but not being able to play him because we forgot about the Visa rules.

[380]

Going against the grain here and say Bernie can well and truly play that role we were hoping to get from Champness. Can play right out on the fringes keeping the width, Doesn't mind running at defenders with the ball and and can shoot. Also a good second striker option for when Roy gets the inevitable red and has to sit out a couple of games or goes the kung fu monkey magic ( look it up young fellas ) or groin injury.

As for Smok'n Joe , A half fit Joe shits this league in with his eyes closed and on one leg.

hate to say i told you so Jetkel, Hope you like Campbelltown, The RSL is a good feed at the buffet and for a beer or two and plenty parking across the road.

[Tommyjet]

So Robinson saying bernie and joe are 2 of 5-6 players we looking at. If so, I wouldn't be surprised if Mark Davies and Jordan Mutch are part of that. Mutch played for Robinson at Vancouver and Davies came through wolves and played with miller.