2019/20 Squad

[Jetmaster]

What good? We are still a poorly run club with an owner who wants out. The only difference between the current situation and the one before Lawrie got here is the amount of ex-gypos stinking up the place. Our kits are still the wrong colours, the beer is still mid-strength, we still don't have Jets shaped hats, our wooden spoon collection is more likely to increase than our trophy cabinet for the foreseeable future...

We are a club that no one takes seriously, and for good reason. Having an ex mayor of Gosford isn't doing anything to fix that.

Lawrie is more than approachable so you could easily take these points up with him personally - the opportunity was there recently when Furns did his interview. You can walk up to him in public or ask directly on social media. Personally, I think he is doing a good job - and if Griff thinks he is the bees knees then that is good enough for me.

Truth is Lawrie is very popular with the majority of fans and members, you hear very little bad mouthing apart from on here and the odd pub chat.

You tell us our head honcho is crap whilst the majority are happy with his performance.

You sound like an ALP voter :wink:

[Frodo]

Lawrie is more than approachable so you could easily take these points up with him personally - the opportunity was there recently when Furns did his interview. You can walk up to him in public or ask directly on social media. Personally, I think he is doing a good job - and if Griff thinks he is the bees knees then that is good enough for me.

Truth is Lawrie is very popular with the majority of fans and members, you hear very little bad mouthing apart from on here and the odd pub chat.

You tell us our head honcho is crap whilst the majority are happy with his performance.

You sound like an ALP voter :wink:

Firstly, this isn't a democracy. We don't vote for a new CEO every 4 years. I care as little about how popular he is with your friends as I do mine. (hint; we don't like him)

Secondly, if I don't like the job he's doing, why would I go an approach him to talk about it? Is he going to leave because I ask him to? Is he going to get rid of all the gypos stealing a wage here because I ask him to? I don't want our CEO making wholesale changes based on conversations with angry idiots he meets in the streets, lol.

But, I'm happy for his fan group to list of some positives that he's brought to the club since he's arrived as an actual worthwhile rebuttal? How's our financials? How's the youth set up? How many titles has he helped us win? How easy is it to purchase Jets shaped hats throughout the community? I would love to hear some positives about the bloke, cause I've got to deal with him being here for the near future and I'd rather be nonchalant about him than disturbed by his love for everything relocatable home related.

[pv4]

Lawrie is more than approachable so you could easily take these points up with him personally - the opportunity was there recently when Furns did his interview. You can walk up to him in public or ask directly on social media.

Particularly in person, how many times have you actually engaged him in something he doesn't agree with you though? Because every time I have, I can genuinely say he does not take it well. He cuts everything short with "agree to disagree" and rarely actually engages in anything outside of the yes man mentality. I think he does good things, I also think he does poor things - but I don't find him as approachable as he intends to be.

[lil_masi]

SST saying we signed Donachie for 3yrs. Dimi was offered to AEK, they declined

[Mark325]

SST saying we signed Donachie for 3yrs. Dimi was offered to AEK, they declined

I imagine this means no more boogs

[turbojetfireV8]

why Donachie? are we paying overs again for a so-so player? surely we could find a young upcoming prospect for cheaper to develop

[Mark325]

why Donachie? are we paying overs again for a so-so player? surely we could find a young upcoming prospect for cheaper to develop

this is my reaction as well, like him and lachlan jackson honestly feel very equal in my eyes quality wise so why are we spending more money in this area of the field for someone not better then what we already have

[pv4]

why Donachie? are we paying overs again for a so-so player? surely we could find a young upcoming prospect for cheaper to develop

I'll save Dunster the trouble.

Donachie is with Avid Sports Group as his agency. Our club has thrown our entire plan behind that one agency, starting with Carl. The deep agency roots are regularly brought up when discussing what got Carl kicked out of Vancouver, it is well worth a Google. I'll save yall the hassle:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eightysixforever.com/platform/amp/2018/8/29/17779710/interview-with-lenarduzzi-raises-questions-about-connection-between-vancouver-whitecaps-and-agent
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theprovince.com/sports/soccer/mls/whitecaps-have-fired-head-coach-carl-robinson/amp

If you want to guess who our other transfer targets could be, the easiest way is to just read this list:
https://www.transfermarkt.com/avid-sports-amp-entertainment-group/beraterfirma/berater/4959

[StannyCFCJET]

I'll save Dunster the trouble.

Donachie is with Avid Sports Group as his agency. Our club has thrown our entire plan behind that one agency, starting with Carl. The deep agency roots are what got Carl kicked out of Vancouver, it is well worth a Google.

If you want to guess who our other transfer targets could be, the easiest way is to just read this list:
https://www.transfermarkt.com/avid-sports-amp-entertainment-group/beraterfirma/berater/4959

Aaron Ramsey to the Jets confirmed

[Jeterpool]

Hearts just got relegated. I wonder when we will be linked with Bozanic.

[Tommyjet]

Donachie has been one of, if not, the best Aussie defenders in the league for the past couple of seasons. Great signing.

[Tommyjet]

Hearts just got relegated. I wonder when we will be linked with Bozanic.
I think we'd only link with bozanic if we passed up on ledley

[pv4]

Donachie has been one of, if not, the best Aussie defenders in the league for the past couple of seasons. Great signing.

I have seen him as the best defender in an otherwise garbage backline (which has been garbage since Delpierre left), but still no better than heaps of our current backup options.

I would say NTS, Boogs, Wilkinson, Grant, Spira, Dura, Good are all aussie centre backs that would probably laugh at the thought that Donks is better than them.

[Frodo]

I have seen him as the best defender in an otherwise garbage backline (which has been garbage since Delpierre left), but still no better than heaps of our current backup options.

I would say NTS, Boogs, Wilkinson, Grant, Spira, Dura, Good are all aussie centre backs that would probably laugh at the thought that Donks is better than them.

What?

We have the 3rd worst defence but 2 of the best CBs in the league? You really going to type that nonsense out and show people? Our defence was terrible last season as well. Heck, even when we finished 2nd our defence was only a goal better than 6th place Brisbane who featured a 33 yr old Llama impersonator Avraam Papadopoulos. (In reference to his spitting, not his appearance. Just to clarify.)

Don't forget this is 35 yr old NTS we are talking about now, he's not the great player he once was.

Durante is a 38 yr old kiwi pensioner, so this one is obviously just for a laugh.

Curtis Good is in a team that is currently 2nd place but has conceded more goals than 8th place Wanderers. His agent is honestly a freakin mastermind. How he has had the career he has given how little talent he has is astonishing.

Wilkinson, Grant and Spira are all good players and would improve our team hugely. Not gonna argue there.


But to anyone saying that Donachie isn't better than our current options, you have obviously spent the lockdown doing the smartest thing possible and forgetting how bad our team currently is. I am very proud of you all.

[Frodo]

Also, can't imagine how much money the club would save if we managed to somehow offload Dimi? That's 4 salaries off the books in one move.

Not saying it wouldn't hurt us on the pitch, cause no matter how much I bag the bloke he is still one of our better players, but he'd be earning good coin and we would have looked after his family as well. Give Maki's or Kosta's salary straight to Uga as a pay increase to keep him here and build a team around him.

[Tommyjet]

I have seen him as the best defender in an otherwise garbage backline (which has been garbage since Delpierre left), but still no better than heaps of our current backup options.

I would say NTS, Boogs, Wilkinson, Grant, Spira, Dura, Good are all aussie centre backs that would probably laugh at the thought that Donks is better than them.

Don't agree with much of that but our opinions mean sfa in the grand scheme of things.

[mic22]

why Donachie? are we paying overs again for a so-so player? surely we could find a young upcoming prospect for cheaper to develop

The man is invisible to the VAR.
Superpowers must be taken into account when signing a player...

[The Dunster]

I'll save Dunster the trouble.

https://img.discogs.com/BltBtxujrMhVWo6KaxfmN6y1Fbw=/567x711/smart/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():qualit y(90)/discogs-images/A-44133-1319530480.jpeg.jpg

https://media1.giphy.com/media/xTiTnk7cRvop40CYLu/source.gif

https://media0.giphy.com/media/l44QoM1VyhLnOXIzK/giphy.gif

[evolution]

If you want to guess who our other transfer targets could be, the easiest way is to just read this list:
https://www.transfermarkt.com/avid-sports-amp-entertainment-group/beraterfirma/berater/4959

Almost spewed when I saw Janjetovic on that list :wacko:

[The Dunster]

Also, can't imagine how much money the club would save if we managed to somehow offload Dimi? That's 4 salaries off the books in one move.

Not saying it wouldn't hurt us on the pitch, cause no matter how much I bag the bloke he is still one of our better players, but he'd be earning good coin and we would have looked after his family as well. Give Maki's or Kosta's salary straight to Uga as a pay increase to keep him here and build a team around him.

I think all four players being represented by the same agent might rule out this strategy.
Besides that, Dimi is the heart and soul of our team/club - lose him and it's pretty much all over.

[Frodo]

To be fair to them. This Avid Group mob managed to convince Juventus to spend £400k a week for the honour of Aaron Ramsey coming off the bench every other week. Can only imagine what we must be paying them for the guys we've already have here.

[Frodo]

Besides that, Dimi is the heart and soul of our team/club

This would explain our current plight so much better than i ever could, lmao.


But seriously, he is nowhere near the heart of our team.

[StannyCFCJET]

I think all four players being represented by the same agent might rule out this strategy.
Besides that, Dimi is the heart and soul of our team/club - lose him and it's pretty much all over.
Ugar is the heart and soul of our team all day every day

[pv4]

We have the 3rd worst defence but 2 of the best CBs in the league?

Yes. This has been our best CB partnership since Ljubo & NTS. And yes I genuinely believe all of those listed players are better than Donachie.

I also strongly believe apart from a solid meme game, Donachie brings nothing to us that Jackson or JohnnyK can't at CB. Both are early-to-mid 20s as opposed to Donks heading into late 20s also. Donks is notoriously non-caring about preseason + training, and ability-wise should have hit his straps long ago if he ever was going to. If we're after a recycled AL journeyman I'd prefer we just brought Reegz back tbh.

[Frodo]

Yes. This has been our best CB partnership since Ljubo & NTS.
I mean, thats not really much of an achievement if you look back at who we've had in between then and now at CB.. but there's no chance Boogs can be called a quality CB anymore. He's been good for us, but nowhere near the level of the other teams in the league.


I also strongly believe apart from a solid meme game, Donachie brings nothing to us that Jackson or JohnnyK can't at CB. Both are early-to-mid 20s as opposed to Donks heading into late 20s also. Donks is notoriously non-caring about preseason + training, and ability-wise should have hit his straps long ago if he ever was going to. If we're after a recycled AL journeyman I'd prefer we just brought Reegz back tbh.

Wow, now you're saying Donachie is on Johnny K and Jackson's level? That's just pure nonsense. That's pure Membah level nonsense. First we lose plague altogether and now PV4 has lost his mind. What is the world coming to?

Even in a horrendous Victory side Donachie has looked solid. He was also doing great for them the year before he went to South Korea, and before that he was loved by Brisbane and only left them during their financial crisis in 2016 with the Bakries debacle. He's won a grand final, very dubiously as we all know, and he lost one the year before he went to South Korea. He's obviously a quality CB. I think even you know that deep down.

Donachie would be a great signing for us if it happens. Him and Topor for a year will be so much stronger than one of Boogs or Jackson getting gametime. Then either Jackson can learn how to play properly or we find a Topor replacement next year.

[StannyCFCJET]

Jackson has shown this season he's learned how to be a starter and would be starting if not for that injury

[380]

Donks v Jackson , Clearly Donks is the better player but if memory serves me correctly Jackson made a couple of " team of the week " inclusions which to me makes him more than serviceable in a CD role and with the potential for even further growth and improvement. If Donks came at a considerably higher price tag then could those monies be better spent at the other end of the park ?.

I would even go so far as too say Jackson is a better player with the ball at feet. Donks is a put it in row z type of defender and that is about it, He should give the bloke he replaces a good run for his money in regards to his disciplinary record. Donks is no stranger to a card or ten.

[Frodo]

Donks v Jackson , Clearly Donks is the better player but if memory serves me correctly Jackson made a couple of " team of the week " inclusions which to me makes him more than serviceable in a CD role and with the potential for even further growth and improvement. If Donks came at a considerably higher price tag then could those monies be better spent at the other end of the park ?.

I would even go so far as too say Jackson is a better player with the ball at feet. Donks is a put it in row z type of defender and that is about it, He should give the bloke he replaces a good run for his money in regards to his disciplinary record. Donks is no stranger to a card or ten.

Donachie has an ever so slightly better passing percentage to Jackson, Donachie also has a higher number of completed passes. Jackson has the edge in long passes. Donachie completes more crosses and key passes tho. So i'd say he is the better player on the ball. Donachie is also much better at intercepting passes. Block percentages are similar.

Jackson is of course stronger in the air and his tackle success rate is suprisingly high. Although he attempts a lot less tackles than James. Donachie does concede more fouls and gets more cards than Jackson. Jackson has way more clearances per 90 than Donachie, which again shows that Donachie is the better of the two on the ball.

But Jackson needs to be saved way too many times for poor positioning to be considered on Donachie or Topor's level just yet. He really needs to improve his focus over 90 mins if he wants to be a starter in the A league.

[Grimario]

Moss retiring - https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/a-league-glen-moss-hangs-boots
Sheppard gone - https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/sheppard-and-jets-part-ways

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN last night
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsback170620.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

Earlier in the week
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetslatest160620.mp4

[anfield]

You would have to think that if Boogaard goes around again next year the Jets plan to stick with the back 3 system long term. With 4 decent centre backs on the books, you would think that must be the plan.

[turbojetfireV8]

Johnny K:
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsjohnny230620.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

Herald on Noah James' chance to show his keeping claims

JUNE 26 2020 - 10:30PM
A-League: Jets Rookie gets chance to prove he's a keeper
James Gardiner

NOAH James has represented Australia at youth level and has been earning his stripes behind the senior goalkeepers at the Jets for the past three seasons.

Now the 19-year-old scholarship player is a chance to make his A-League debut.

James has moved up the pecking order after the departure of veteran shotstopper Glen Moss. Lewis Italiano will start in goals, with James next in line.

Moss had planned to retire at the end of the season.

However, the COVID-19 enforced interruption to the campaign has brought the former Kiwi international's end forward.

He and his family have moved to Sydney in readiness for the next chapter of his career as goalkeeper coach at new A-League franchise Macarthur Rams.

Rather than sign a back-up keeper for the Jets' four remaining game plus potentially finals, James will get his chance.

The talented shot-stopper, who was sidelined for three months with a hand injury earlier this year, has sat on the bench previously but it has only ever been for one or two weeks.

"We won't be bringing in another keeper," Jets chief executive Lawrie McKinna said. "Lewis had been in great form before the league was suspended. We also wanted to give Noah an opportunity. We all know the potential that Noah has. It is a great chance. All of a sudden he is sitting on the bench for the next four games and he might get an opportunity."

McKinna coached James in the Jets youth team and said he has all the ingredients to be a top gloveman.

"He just needs to play games," McKinna said. "With games comes confidence on when to come out for crosses and things like that. Playing against men [in the A-League], you've got less time to make decisions. He came on last season in the preseason and played a few games. Even two years ago in Spain [on a pre-season tour], he played in a couple of games.

"It is up to him now. Mossy and Lewis put pressure on each other. Now it's up to Noah to put pressure on Lewis."

The Jets resume their campaign away to Sydney FC on July 21. They back up three days later against Central coast (July 24) before back-to-back home games against Western United (August 3) and Wellington Phoenix (August 11).

As well as Moss, foreigners Wes Hoolahan and Bobby Burns, who was on loan from Scottish club Hearts, have returned to Ireland will not complete the season. Kaine Sheppard has his contract mutually terminated.

"We have five youth team players training with the senior squad," McKinna said. IWe are going to look at bringing in a couple of players to have a look at for next season, possibly from an NPL club or the youth team."

Former Welsh international Joe Ledley was to leave Cardiff on Friday en route to Newcastle and will have to spend 14 days in quarantine.

[turbojetfireV8]

Ledley on way back to Aus

JUNE 26 2020 - 7:30AM
Jet-setting Joe Ledley packs bags for return flight
ROBERT DILLON

WELSH inernational midfielder Joe Ledley will be back to bolster the Newcastle Jets for the final four games of their A-League campaign, but Irish playmaker Wes Hoolahan will delay any return until the start of next season.

Ledley and Hoolahan, the former English Premier League veterans who have appeared in a combined tally of eight games for Newcastle, both returned to the United Kingdom during the A-League's coronavirus shutdown.

Players at all clubs have now resumed training in preparation for the competition re-start on July 18.

Jets officials were hoping Ledley would board a flight out of the Old Dart on Friday, and the 33-year-old will spend two weeks in hotel quarantine before he is able to rejoin his Newcastle teammates.

Hoolahan, whose wife is expecting their third child in October, has decided to stay in Ireland for the birth but has indicated a desire to return to Newcastle next season, at the age of 38.

Having spent much of his time with the Jets on the sidelines after surgery to repair a pre-season ankle injury, Hoolahan feels he has unfinished business and the club believe his experience and class will be an asset.

Jets chief executive Lawrie McKinna said Hoolahan was "keen" on going around again next season and the feeling was mutual.

Like Hoolahan, Ledley, who played alongside Newcastle coach Carl Robinson for Wales, is a free agent at the end of this season.

But his decision to return for the last four games of 2019-20 - plus the finals, should Newcastle qualify - suggests he is hoping to extend his tenure.

"It will be up to Carl and Joe to work out," McKinna said. "But Joe's got great experience - he's played 70-odd games for Wales, scored goals in the [European] Champions League - and that last game he played for us when we beat Melbourne City at home, he did very, very well.

"I think he really liked it out here before the league was shut down, and if he's interested in coming back, we're certainly interested."

Meanwhile, McKinna was awaiting confirmation of how many spectators would be allowed to attend Newcastle's remaining home games, against Western United (August 3) and Wellington (August 11).

The Newcastle Knights have been cleared to host 8000 fans when they return to McDonald Jones Stadium for their clash with Parramatta on July 12.

"It's still being worked out, but we're hoping it will be in line with the Knights' crowd," McKinna said.

[Jeterpool]

Was the rumoured Italiano extension ever announced?

[Jeterpool]

A-League Contracts
3 Jason Hoffman – signed until 21/22
4 Nigel Boogaard – signed until 19/20
5 Ben Kantarovski – signed until 21/22
6 Steven Ugarkovic – signed until 20/21
7 Roy O'Donovan - signed until 20/21 (Foreign)
9 Abdiel Arroyo - signed on loan ending 19/20 (Foreign)
10 Dimitri Petratos – signed until 20/21
11 Nick Fitzgerald - signed until 20/21
16 Matt Millar - signed until 20/21
17 Joe Ledley - signed until 19/20 (Foreign)
18 John Koutroumbis – signed until 21/22
19 Kosta Petratos - signed until 19/20
20 Lewis Italiano - signed until 19/20
21 Bernie Ibini - signed until 19/20
22 Lachlan Jackson – signed until 20/21
24 Joe Champness – signed until 21/22
28 Patrick Langlois – signed until 19/20
29 Connor O'Toole – signed until 20/21
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 21/22
44 Nikolai Topor-Stanley – signed until 20/21

Youth Contracts
25 Jack Simmons - unsure, youth contract (i.e. not first team)
27 Maki Petratos - Youth Contract

22 Spots used, 0 remaining (including 2 visa spot available)

Released/Retired/Not Returning for remainder 19/20 Season
1 Glen Moss – signed until 19/20
2 Bobby Burns - signed on loan ending 19/20 (Foreign)
8 Wes Hoolahan - signed until 19/20 (Foreign)
14 Kaine Sheppard - signed until 19/20

Expiring 19/20
4 Nigel Boogaard – signed until 19/20
9 Abdiel Arroyo - signed on loan ending 19/20 (Foreign)
17 Joe Ledley - signed until 19/20
19 Kosta Petratos - signed until 19/20
20 Lewis Italiano - signed until 19/20
21 Bernie Ibini - signed until 19/20
28 Patrick Langlois – signed until 19/20

Expiring 20/21
6 Steven Ugarkovic – signed until 20/21
7 Roy O'Donovan – signed until 20/21 (Foreign)
10 Dimitri Petratos – signed until 20/21
11 Nick Fitzgerald - signed until 20/21
16 Matt Millar - signed until 20/21
22 Lachlan Jackson – signed until 20/21
29 Connor O'Toole – signed until 20/21
44 Nikolai Topor-Stanley – signed until 20/21

Expiring 21/22
3 Jason Hoffman – signed until 21/22
5 Ben Kantarovski – signed until 21/22
18 John Koutroumbis – signed until 21/22
24 Joe Champness – signed until 21/22
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 21/22

Expiring 22/23
xx James Donachie - signed until 22/23

[StannyCFCJET]

Was the rumoured Italiano extension ever announced?

100% pretty sure in the Herald

[Jeterpool]

100% pretty sure in the Herald

I recall that - don't recall anything form the club.

[StannyCFCJET]

I recall that - don't recall anything form the club.
Yeah that's what I Recall as well

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN yesterday
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/millerjets100720.mp4

[StannyCFCJET]

Two new signings, One is an ex coastie and the other another yoof player

[Frodo]

Two new signings, One is an ex coastie and the other another yoof player

Of course we did. Hurry up and announce Hutcho and get it over with Lawrie.

[380]

Hopefully this time around Jair the Brazilian superstar gets to fulfil his potential

[Frodo]

It's Michael Neill. Now plays LB for Sydney United 58.

So we've increased our Sauce Bottle numbers and NPL level players numbers at the same time.

Quality move Lawrie.

[Alton]

It's Michael Neill. Now plays LB for Sydney United 58.

So we've increased our Sauce Bottle numbers and NPL level players numbers at the same time.

Quality move Lawrie.

This is by far our worst signing in recent memory, no squad type left backs locally??

[The Dunster]

This is a great move by the club in preparation for being relegated to the NSWPL.

[turbojetfireV8]

Coach seems to rate their potential
https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/a-league-neill-and-mauragis-boost-squad

[The Dunster]

Coach seems to rate their potential
https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/a-league-neill-and-mauragis-boost-squad

None of it adds up with respect to Michael Neil. He's had every chance to prove himself and couldn't get a run at the mariners in a team that was full of state league standard players.
The notion that he's all of a sudden come good and nobody else noticed just doesn't make sense.

James Virgili must be phoning the Jets as we speak.

[Jetmaster]

Signed for four games as a cheap backup, probably cost a meat tray, O'Toole will finish the season.

Who cares?

[StannyCFCJET]

At this point Robbo has my trust

[380]

Signed for four games as a cheap backup, probably cost a meat tray, O'Toole will finish the season.

Who cares?

This

[Frodo]

I'm ok with giving NPL players a chance in the HAL, especially given how little this season means.

But why recycle another ex-gypo who couldn't make it with an even worse squad than ours? Go find some 20-25 yr old who might not get a chance otherwise and give them a run. No complaints about the scholarship kid they've given a chance to.

This is exactly why some of us dislike Lawrie, instead of going out and looking for player they just went with one of his old mates from Gosford, zero effort from him and everyone else involved. They've had plenty of time to talk to some agents or go scout some NPL footage whilst on break.

[The Hacker]

With a game tomorrow is the squad out

[380]

I'm ok with giving NPL players a chance in the HAL, especially given how little this season means.

But why recycle another ex-gypo who couldn't make it with an even worse squad than ours? Go find some 20-25 yr old who might not get a chance otherwise and give them a run. No complaints about the scholarship kid they've given a chance to.

This is exactly why some of us dislike Lawrie, instead of going out and looking for player they just went with one of his old mates from Gosford, zero effort from him and everyone else involved. They've had plenty of time to talk to some agents or go scout some NPL footage whilst on break.

I advocated for something similar a while back and thought the club should give Thomas James from the Wollongong Wolves an opportunity. Was glad to see Perth throw him an A league chance til seasons end.

[Jeterpool]

Signed for four games as a cheap backup, probably cost a meat tray, O'Toole will finish the season.

Who cares?

I imagine some dude who keeps stats but that's about it

[Jetmaster]

I imagine some dude who keeps stats but that's about it

Been quiet, you probably need some research action - regale us in tales of Mickey's history!

[StannyCFCJET]

Hoolohan ain't coming back :(

[Jeterpool]

Hoolohan ain't coming back :(

Source?

[StannyCFCJET]

Source?

BBC and also the social medias of what ever team he just signed a 1 year deal with

[StannyCFCJET]

BBC and also the social medias of what ever team he just signed a 1 year deal with

Cambridge

[Bremsstrahlung]

We’d have to be one of the worst in the league for getting value for money “marquee” players.

[Jeterpool]

BBC and also the social medias of what ever team he just signed a 1 year deal with


Cambridge

Thank you

[Jeterpool]

We’d have to be one of the worst in the league for getting value for money “marquee” players.

By all accounts, Wes wasn't eating up much of the salary cap but I get your point.

[pv4]

By all accounts, Wes wasn't eating up much of the salary cap but I get your point.

Yeah the vibe is fine, I mean I would argue WSW have far worse luck with theirs..

But it is worth everyone knowing Wessi was not a marquee for us, and was paid really low salary by his choice. The rumours the year prior when he nearly signed for Melbourne were he was asking for less than 100k, so I safely assume we weren't paying much more.

Lawrie is always vague on the detail but from what I can pick up, our only marquee currently would possibly be Roy. Lawrie has flirted with the near-marquee talk re: Roy for years, and phernz will need to confirm but I'm sure in one of the Jerkstream interviews Lawrie actually confirmed Roy was upgraded to marquee at one point.

[turbojetfireV8]

I'd consider this one an opportunity lost, Wes hadn't shown us his best yet, he would have been very useful to hold on to.

[The Dunster]

I'd consider this one an opportunity lost, Wes hadn't shown us his best yet, he would have been very useful to hold on to.

Wes enjoyed his time at the Jets but he's happy to be with Cambridge now.
From interviews it sounds like he was never going to be here long term and always wanted to play for Cambridge.

It's football - we move on.

[Jetmaster]

If he has a baby due in October, why even try to come back here the way things are right now.

[Jeterpool]

If he has a baby due in October, why even try to come back here the way things are right now.

Exactly

[Bremsstrahlung]

By all accounts, Wes wasn't eating up much of the salary cap but I get your point.

Oh yeh, I mean no problem with him going to Cambridge or cap space or anything in particular. With everything happening don’t blame him going back. Just feel like we have terrible luck sometimes. Confirmation bias and all that I guess.

Just seems so like the Jets to get an ex premier league player out here, play a handful of pre season games and look good, get injured, come back for a few cameos in a pandemic affected season and leave.

Which foreign players in recent years do we think have had a positive impact? (Or an impact worthy of a foreign position).

[Jeterpool]

Oh yeh, I mean no problem with him going to Cambridge or cap space or anything in particular. With everything happening don’t blame him going back. Just feel like we have terrible luck sometimes. Confirmation bias and all that I guess.

Just seems so like the Jets to get an ex premier league player out here, play a handful of pre season games and look good, get injured, come back for a few cameos in a pandemic affected season and leave.

Which foreign players in recent years do we think have had a positive impact? (Or an impact worthy of a foreign position).

That's a really good question.

Roy's numbers are very impressive in his short time here so I would put him on the list.

Pato could have an argument founded around him, so could Vargas, Ki-Je, Jaliens and Poljak.

Other than that, we're getting back 7-8 seasons and there isn't a lot to choose from. Vargas SHOULD have, and was looking like he would have other than rotten luck similar to Wes.

[380]

I would have Potato back in a heartbeat. To this day i don't reckon Bert gave him a real crack. If memory serves me correctly he was the original one sought by the club but Bert insisted they went after his team mate. Don't think Bert thought much of the club eventually bringing him out to fill the gap left by Vargas after the ankle snap.

[Jeterpool]

I would have Potato back in a heartbeat. To this day i don't reckon Bert gave him a real crack. If memory serves me correctly he was the original one sought by the club but Bert insisted they went after his team mate. Don't think Bert thought much of the club eventually bringing him out to fill the gap left by Vargas after the ankle snap.

It was between him and Vargas, I recall. The club went for Vargas and then got Pato with the injury - and then we had both!

[pv4]

I would have Potato back in a heartbeat. To this day i don't reckon Bert gave him a real crack. If memory serves me correctly he was the original one sought by the club but Bert insisted they went after his team mate. Don't think Bert thought much of the club eventually bringing him out to fill the gap left by Vargas after the ankle snap.

My memory is both were on offer - Ernie wanted Potato, Joel wanted Ronnie. I think I even recall Ernie saying he owed Joel a bottle of champagne or similar for how great Ronnie looked when he arrived, I think they had a bet on it or similar.

[StannyCFCJET]

From what I remember from Pato, Great technique, But lazy work ethic on and off the pitch and Ernie felt he didnt suit our system and ignored coaching instructions.

[The Dunster]

I would have Potato back in a heartbeat. To this day i don't reckon Bert gave him a real crack. If memory serves me correctly he was the original one sought by the club but Bert insisted they went after his team mate. Don't think Bert thought much of the club eventually bringing him out to fill the gap left by Vargas after the ankle snap.

Pato has a lot of talent but he's failed to realise his potential at too many clubs for us to take a chance on him.
At 30 years of age he's not played a lot of football in the past five years or so and is now signed to a club in Bolivia after failing to score in 12 appearances in Portugal.
The bad news is he has only made two appearances for a total of around 90 mins since 2019.

He's finished - too much drama for not a lot of end product. And you'd hardly want him around to help out the youngsters coming up.

[evolution]

Agree with Dunster, wouldn't want him back but will always love him for calmly slotting one past the Gypo Kennedy on debut.

[StannyCFCJET]

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/petratos-exits-jets-to-join-saudi-club

[pv4]

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/petratos-exits-jets-to-join-saudi-club

We never deserved Dimi, anyway.

Can't wait for the fans to whinge as much about his significantly worse replacement.

[380]

Good luck to Dimi if he can earn a good pay cheque over there.

If i remember correctly we made a quid from the short lived stint in Korea then we had him come to the club and got some great football out of him for the most part. If we have got another sum on the back of this latest move then IMO both the club and its supporters should feel ok about this.

[The Hacker]

Good luck to Dimi if he can earn a good pay cheque over there.

If i remember correctly we made a quid from the short lived stint in Korea then we had him come to the club and got some great football out of him for the most part. If we have got another sum on the back of this latest move then IMO both the club and its supporters should feel ok about this.

I’m happy if we reinvest the cash. We showed we can win without him in the team

[Bremsstrahlung]

Will Martin Lee just pocket the transfer fee?
Bloke doesn’t really seem to give a toss Atm, and fair enough, it’s his money, but I’m not getting my hopes up.

[Jetmaster]

Not a bad thing - he knows the new world order won't be built around him so go grab some coin.

As he is such a family centred guy I expect him to be back in 12 months.

[The Dunster]

Could Dimi's lack of recent game time be due to Carl wanting to get ready for a future without Dimi playing for us ?

I'd like to think we can use the transfer fee to help pay for Ibini but I'm experienced enough to know the club won't see a cent of it.

[Jeterpool]

Could Dimi's lack of recent game time be due to Carl wanting to get ready for a future without Dimi playing for us ?


That's my take

[Jeterpool]

Also, I think Boogaard might be suspended for round 1 next season. He picked up his 8th yellow card of the season which equates to a 1 match ban.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Could Dimi's lack of recent game time be due to Carl wanting to get ready for a future without Dimi playing for us ?

I'd like to think we can use the transfer fee to help pay for Ibini but I'm experienced enough to know the club won't see a cent of it.

That was my thoughts too. Maybe Dimi made Carl aware of it. Carl decides to plan for future and Bench him .
Sensible and respectful from both parties if that’s the case.

[Jeterpool]

I don't think we should underestimate the hole Dimi will leave if the rumours turn out to be true.

1st season - equal top goal scorer and most assists
2nd season - 2nd most goals and assists
3rd season - Leading goal scorer and most assists

That's a massive contribution to fill.

[Mark325]

probably unrealistic but what would thoughts be on signing ninkovic to replace dimi?? he's currently off contract and although he isn't as good as he used to be i think he's still a good player for any team in the a-league

[My2BobsWorth]

Players who can run at or around other players are hard to come by. Will be missed if he goes.

[380]

probably unrealistic but what would thoughts be on signing ninkovic to replace dimi?? he's currently off contract and although he isn't as good as he used to be i think he's still a good player for any team in the a-league

I thought Ninkovic resigned after knocking back the opportunity to be one of the Sheeps first signings.

[Jetmaster]

I want less recycling.

There are good players out there who haven't been through half the league.

[StannyCFCJET]

I don't think we should underestimate the hole Dimi will leave if the rumours turn out to be true.

1st season - equal top goal scorer and most assists
2nd season - 2nd most goals and assists
3rd season - Leading goal scorer and most assists

That's a massive contribution to fill.

Not rumours, Lawrie today in the Newy Herald confirmed it

[Bon]

According to NBN news facey page, looks like we have re-signed Ibini for the next year..

[Alton]

I thought Ninkovic resigned after knocking back the opportunity to be one of the Sheeps first signings.

And he would play as a 10 not a left winger

[Alton]

According to NBN news facey page, looks like we have re-signed Ibini for the next year..

Brilliant

[lil_masi]

Would you guys play Ibini at #10 or winger? Bernie would be good running at players in the middle, just behind Roy.

[Alton]

Would you guys play Ibini at #10 or winger? Bernie would be good running at players in the middle, just behind Roy.

Somewhere up top, not 10,he hasn't got the Ninkovic,Dimi,Diamanti touch to play 10

[evolution]

According to NBN news facey page, looks like we have re-signed Ibini for the next year..

Now official from the Jets

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/bernie-ibini-re-signs-newcastle?fbclid=IwAR2D_eXfHtZgm0BPKo6I72FVxCGkCtS 2edrR_3CvHhUVahKdZLaLkvz1Z_g

[Jeterpool]

I'd play him where we were playing him
At the end of the season

[The Hacker]

I'd play him where we were playing him
At the end of the season

Agree coming from deep running at players. Don’t want him back to goal

[lil_masi]

Arroyo signed to play in Israel

[Jeterpool]

A-League Contracts
3 Jason Hoffman – signed until 21/22
5 Ben Kantarovski – signed until 21/22
6 Steven Ugarkovic – signed until 20/21
7 Roy O'Donovan - signed until 20/21 (Foreign)
11 Nick Fitzgerald - signed until 20/21
16 Matt Millar - signed until 20/21
18 John Koutroumbis – signed until 21/22
21 Bernie Ibini - signed until 20/21
22 Lachlan Jackson – signed until 20/21
24 Joe Champness – signed until 21/22
29 Connor O'Toole – signed until 20/21
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 21/22
44 Nikolai Topor-Stanley – signed until 20/21
xx James Donachie - signed until 22/23

Youth Contracts
25 Jack Simmons - unsure, youth contract (i.e. not first team)
27 Maki Petratos - Youth Contract
40 Noah James - Youth Contract

14 Spots used, 9 remaining (including 4 visa spot available), 3 Youth Contract spots taken (as far as I know)

Expired 19/20 - Unsigned
4 Nigel Boogaard – signed until 19/20
17 Joe Ledley - signed until 19/20
19 Kosta Petratos - signed until 19/20* - *to the best of my knowledge
20 Lewis Italiano - signed until 19/20 - Rumoured signed contract extension
28 Patrick Langlois – signed until 19/20

Expiring 20/21
6 Steven Ugarkovic – signed until 20/21
7 Roy O'Donovan – signed until 20/21 (Foreign)
10 Dimitri Petratos – signed until 20/21
11 Nick Fitzgerald - signed until 20/21
16 Matt Millar - signed until 20/21
21 Bernie Ibini - signed until 20/21
22 Lachlan Jackson – signed until 20/21
29 Connor O'Toole – signed until 20/21
44 Nikolai Topor-Stanley – signed until 20/21

Expiring 21/22
3 Jason Hoffman – signed until 21/22
5 Ben Kantarovski – signed until 21/22
18 John Koutroumbis – signed until 21/22
24 Joe Champness – signed until 21/22
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 21/22

Expiring 22/23
xx James Donachie - signed until 22/23

[My2BobsWorth]

I'm pretty sure Ernie never had a say in the signing of Arroyo, that was down to the brains trust of griffo and macca. He never suited the A league and at the time we needed a no9. Get rid of the brains trust.

[StannyCFCJET]

I'm pretty sure Ernie never had a say in the signing of Arroyo, that was down to the brains trust of griffo and macca. He never suited the A league and at the time we needed a no9. Get rid of the brains trust.

Ernie could've tried to play to his strengths

[Mark325]

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/english-clubs-eye-jets-utility-millar

[mic22]

with the uncertainty around the new collective bargaining agreement for the next A-League season, or when the new campaign kicks off, a loan spell or permanent move may be the right option.

Makes you wonder how many players are in the same position.
Just had 4 months off, then the perspective of 4 or 5 more.
A professional league with no idea when (or if...) the're going to start playing again.

[My2BobsWorth]

Ernie could've tried to play to his strengths

I'm sure Ernie will take your valued opinion onboard

[StannyCFCJET]

I'm sure Ernie will take your valued opinion onboard

Hey I'm sure majority of the fanbase had similar thoughts

[Bremsstrahlung]

Makes you wonder how many players are in the same position.
Just had 4 months off, then the perspective of 4 or 5 more.
A professional league with no idea when (or if...) the're going to start playing again.

You’d hope there has been a lot of internal discussions about how the next season will look and when it will start.

They have a tv deal until July 2021. So I’m assuming they’ll have a June/July grand final.
12 teams, probably lends itself to a 22 game season in the current climate.
Wouldnt surprise me if we go with a January start.

With travel and quarantine periods presumed to be done with soon but not not a sure thing, I think you’d get a lot of disgruntled players if their Christmas was ruined with quarantine or lockdown.


I think the next 2.5 years will see another boom or bust.

[turbojetfireV8]

Another one gone...


English League One club Shrewsbury Town have won the race to sign Newcastle Jets right-back Matt Millar.

UPDATED 10 HOURS AGO
BY JOHN DAVIDSON

The World Game understands Shrewsbury have beaten Portsmouth to land the right-sided utility on loan before the end of the transfer window.

Millar is expected to leave Australia and arrive in the UK next week.

The Shrews, managed by former Hull City and Bolton Wanderers defender Sam Ricketts, currently sit 20th in League One, just above the relegation zone.

They have notched two draws and one defeat in their three league fixtures so far this season.

Millar joined Newcastle from the Central Coast Mariners in 2019 and is off-contract at McDonald Jones Stadium at the end of the 2020-2021 campaign.

The 24-year-old originally hails from Victoria and spent his youth career with Dandenong Thunder and Melbourne City.

After being released by City in 2016, he rebuilt his career in the NPL with South Melbourne. After two years with South he was signed by the Mariners in 2018.

Able to play at right back and right midfield, Millar scored four goals and set up three others in 24 appearances for the Jets last season.

The utility is another player to have left Newcastle in recent weeks, following James Donachie, Dimi Petratos and Abdiel Arroyo in moves to overseas clubs.

Millar holds a British passport, making for an easier switch to the UK.

Both Shrewsbury and Newcastle had not responded to a request for comment by The World Game at the time of writing.

SOURCE SBS THE WORLD GAME

[Jeterpool]

Makes you wonder if there is actually going to be a league this year...

[anfield]

Makes you wonder if there is actually going to be a league this year...

Looks like salary cap is only going to be 2/3rd of previous year, hence the Jets have loaned out Miller and Donachie. You would have to think a few NPL players will be playing A league this year as cheap alternatives.

[pv4]

Looks like salary cap is only going to be 2/3rd of previous year, hence the Jets have loaned out Miller and Donachie. You would have to think a few NPL players will be playing A league this year as cheap alternatives.

For so many years I have been hearing people tell me the gap between the AL and NPL isn't that big.. so I can't wait for the obvious, massive quality dip on the field next year to prove them wrong.

[furns]

We've seen the gap between the NPL and AL first hand and multiple times, its only NPL diehards sticking to that narrative.

[Bremsstrahlung]

No start date, no competition format, no broadcast deal post July 2021, no money and losing players.

If they aren’t careful, this could see the end of the a league as we know it.

I don’t know what they can do, but it’ll be an interesting 2 years.
2022 World Cup becomes very important, as does the women’s WC.

[My2BobsWorth]

We've seen the gap between the NPL and AL first hand and multiple times, its only NPL diehards sticking to that narrative.

So...... you're saying if you are playing in NPL then you have no chance of playing AL, That would mean that a 2nd div is a waste of time?

[anfield]

There are 2 ways this could go. Crap standard of football, no crowds, no tv numbers and a heap of players that can't step up to A league level.
Or players step up, interest is there and a new revolution is created.
After all football has big participation numbers, surely there is talent to fill the gaps??

[furns]

So...... you're saying if you are playing in NPL then you have no chance of playing AL, That would mean that a 2nd div is a waste of time?No, far from it mate. Im saying the step up between the two is currently massive, and most of the players who have tried in recent times havent succeeded.
This is more of an argument for professionalising the second division and bringing the standard closer to the AL, not less.

[Alton]

No, far from it mate. Im saying the step up between the two is currently massive, and most of the players who have tried in recent times havent succeeded.
This is more of an argument for professionalising the second division and bringing the standard closer to the AL, not less.

I think the 2nd division is a long way off, the standard of players running around in A league next season will be ordinary and a lot of local players might get a chance, meaning a second division from player standard would be even weaker

[Bon]

Looks like our assistant coach Darren Bazeley is out the door, returning to a role at NZ Football..

[Jeterpool]

Looks like our assistant coach Darren Bazeley is out the door, returning to a role at NZ Football..

That was quick

[Charman]

Joey C to do the Roar......no further comment.

[Tommyjet]

Joey C to do the Roar......no further comment.
?

[Couscous]

https://twitter.com/Scotmccormick3/status/1302898892585877504

[Bremsstrahlung]

I often wonder if other clubs get screwed over like we do.
Obviously there’s some confirmation bias cause we know our ex players and the circumstances they leave, and the sob stories and promises they give. But we don’t know what victory, perf or roar etc players say when they leave or the circumstances they leave.

Just makes me think we have soft management that’s too “nice guy” and get taken for a ride every year.
I mean, didn’t these exact questions get posed when JOWIC left? I thought we tied him down with a contract so that if he ever tried to play in the next few years, he would have to negotiate a release or come back to us.
Did that contract expire? Or did nobody care?

[Bremsstrahlung]

"He might be in the US for six months, he might be there for a year, he might never come back to play football," McKinna said.

"But we thought it was important for the Newcastle Jets to have him signed up, so if he does come back he comes back to Newcastle and not to another club.

- august 2019

[Jetmaster]

Maybe Carl came in and thought the whole thing was a farce and said **** him.

Hang on.....just read the tweet, says he was seen training in a Brisbane gym by a Roar fan.

That's where his family is right?
He is ex Brisbane Youth.
The border is closed so can't travel down here and back easy.
May just be on a break from c-rap.
Doesn't say anything about signing with anyone.

https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/9V8AAOSwgslbKo5m/s-l225.jpg

[Mark325]

we've signed Ramy Najjarine on a one season loan deal from melb city

[Tommyjet]

we've signed Ramy Najjarine on a one season loan deal from melb city

Happy with this, especially in the current football climate. Wouldn't mind him dragging connor metcalfe up with him

[anfield]

we've signed Ramy Najjarine on a one season loan deal from melb city

Good signing, never been a big fan of loan signings as you can't get a transfer fee. But in the current climate it's about getting as strong as squad possible with the dollars available.
Given what's going on, I see the A League being very similar to that of it's first ever season back in 2005/06. That being very few big names, lots of no names and journeyman. Good players aged 22-30 will move abroad. Good opportunities for younger players to get a chance.

[lil_masi]

TWG saying champness signed 1yr deal with roar. Says Jets disputing it. Dog!!

[Couscous]

Who can we send to wage a rap battle against him?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/05094dc5967369720377760d79f21a09/tenor.gif

[Frodo]

TWG saying champness signed 1yr deal with roar. Says Jets disputing it. Dog!!

Champness and his reps informed the Jets about it ages ago and had we didn't have any issues, his move also doesn't go against anything written into contract, so now Lawrie is just trying to act like he cares to the media to save face again. We can't afford to sign anyone right now anyways.

I'm happy he's back in the league tho, with the amount of players leaving the quality is going to drop off to even worse levels next season. The league needs as many half competent footballers as it can get if we want to stay afloat for a long enough to rebuild this thing.

[StannyCFCJET]

Champness and his reps informed the Jets about it ages ago and had we didn't have any issues, his move also doesn't go against anything written into contract, so now Lawrie is just trying to act like he cares to the media to save face again. We can't afford to sign anyone right now anyways.

I'm happy he's back in the league tho, with the amount of players leaving the quality is going to drop off to even worse levels next season. The league needs as many half competent footballers as it can get if we want to stay afloat for a long enough to rebuild this thing.

Where did you hear that?

[My2BobsWorth]

Either Frodo needs to get off the mushies or lorry needs to resign. Both I suspect

[Frodo]

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/rapper-champness-roar-deal-hits-sour-note-with-jets?cid=football:socialshare:twitter

It's all in there.

[380]

That article suggests we had first dibs til 2022 if i understand it correctly.

[Frodo]

That article suggests we had first dibs til 2022 if i understand it correctly.

Yeah, we get first chance to sign him. So one of three things has happened.

1. We had the opportunity and chose not to resign him. (Make sense given our financial issues and Lawrie's incompetence.)
2. We offered him a deal and he turned us down. Which he is legally allowed to do after the first clause expired.
3. We weren't given an opportunity and Brisbane/Champness are lying. (But considering how easy this would be to prove, I think this there is zero chance of this being the case.)

[My2BobsWorth]

Forget about that, you Hobbits got any mushies left ?

[Frodo]

Forget about that, you Hobbits got any mushies left ?

We only smoke Gandalf's famous "pipeweed" or something I think.

[pv4]

I'm happy he's back in the league tho, with the amount of players leaving the quality is going to drop off to even worse levels next season. The league needs as many half competent footballers as it can get if we want to stay afloat for a long enough to rebuild this thing.

Preach

[StannyCFCJET]

According to TWG, Robbo might become the new WSW coach

[Jeterpool]

Ffs

[Mark325]

if robbo goes to wsw i'd honestly struggle to give a shit for next season

[StannyCFCJET]

if robbo goes to wsw i'd honestly struggle to give a shit for next season

Kinda agree tbh

[traffic light]

Jowic wants to go the US and do his thing, we have done the right thing by him and locked him down so that no other club can benefit from the situation straight away. Simple and smart.?
first this


Champness and his reps informed the Jets about it ages ago and had we didn't have any issues, his move also doesn't go against anything written into contract, so now Lawrie is just trying to act like he cares to the media to save face again. We can't afford to sign anyone right now anyways.

I'm happy he's back in the league tho, with the amount of players leaving the quality is going to drop off to even worse levels next season. The league needs as many half competent footballers as it can get if we want to stay afloat for a long enough to rebuild this thing.

Then this. Any more excuses judas? You are as retarded as your pic

[mic22]

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/jets-robinson-joins-queue-for-wanderers-job

This is just awful.

[Couscous]

Good news: JP is free.

[380]

Good news: JP is free.


Whats your relationship like with the Gypo CEO Gaz ?. You just might get a late call up.

Third times a charm right ?.

[ABCDEF]

So Nabbout screws us over first after we give him an opportunity when no one else does.

Champness then screws us over deciding to leave the club where he gets an opportunity for his shit rapping career that was never going to happen. He now does us over again by signing for Brisbane after the jets kept money for him when he came back instead of using it on another player instead.

Carl is then given an opportunity after being out of a job for a little while, stays for about 5 minutes and is now looking to get in bed with a rival club.

Maybe it’s the type of people that the jets are signing that is the issue. I understand there are egos in football but these guys are just plain scum with no sense of loyalty. I don’t care how we go next season, what would be nice is if we could build a football club of good people to start with, then go from there.

[Bon]

Anyone that uses Twitter able to hit up the gypo CEO and find out wtf is going on there??
I nominate you, Mr Baggins..

[Ghost of Plague]

So Nabbout screws us over first after we give him an opportunity when no one else does.

Champness then screws us over deciding to leave the club where he gets an opportunity for his shit rapping career that was never going to happen. He now does us over again by signing for Brisbane after the jets kept money for him when he came back instead of using it on another player instead.

Carl is then given an opportunity after being out of a job for a little while, stays for about 5 minutes and is now looking to get in bed with a rival club.

Maybe it’s the type of people that the jets are signing that is the issue. I understand there are egos in football but these guys are just plain scum with no sense of loyalty. I don’t care how we go next season, what would be nice is if we could build a football club of good people to start with, then go from there.

What's this 'screwed us' business?
Only one bloke getting screwed here and that's that gypo ceo. Be grouse if some other club tried to poach him instead.
Stop looking at it any harder than realising we have someone in charge who keeps coming off looking like a sucker.
Con won the comp then told anyone that tried to strongarm him to walk. That's because Con was the one true boss.

[Jeterpool]

CLub have announced they have received a formal approach and have given permission for the two parties to meet.

[Jeterpool]

We must be in serious financial trouble if we can't say "No".

[Bremsstrahlung]

We must be in serious financial trouble if we can't say "No".

If I was a player or involved with the club and seeing all these decisions made, I’d be walking too.
Maybe we are in a worse position than we were lead to believe.

[StannyCFCJET]

We must be in serious financial trouble if we can't say "No".

For the 1st time I remember Lawrie is silent. Says it all

[pv4]

We must be in serious financial trouble if we can't say "No".

WSW could offer us Suarez's +1 and we'd take it at this point.


For the 1st time I remember Lawrie is silent. Says it all

Preach.

[pv4]

Ideal scenario here, if Carl goes, is we get Labi in return.

[Couscous]

Spare me the reflexive responses. But GVE is Newy, is available, knows youth, knows Australian football and is the greatest coach in this club's history.

He won't be available forever. I'll be pissed if the club doesn't approach him.

[belchardo]

Spare me the reflexive responses. But GVE is Newy, is available, knows youth, knows Australian football and is the greatest coach in this club's history.

He won't be available forever. I'll be pissed if the club doesn't approach him.

We should not be signing a new coach until we have been sold.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I’m looking forward to seeing if we can coin the term “demolition phase” instead of “rebuilding”

[anfield]

So Nabbout screws us over first after we give him an opportunity when no one else does.

Champness then screws us over deciding to leave the club where he gets an opportunity for his shit rapping career that was never going to happen. He now does us over again by signing for Brisbane after the jets kept money for him when he came back instead of using it on another player instead.

Carl is then given an opportunity after being out of a job for a little while, stays for about 5 minutes and is now looking to get in bed with a rival club.

Maybe it’s the type of people that the jets are signing that is the issue. I understand there are egos in football but these guys are just plain scum with no sense of loyalty. I don’t care how we go next season, what would be nice is if we could build a football club of good people to start with, then go from there.
100% Agree, We need some loyal player's and a loyal coach. We shouldn't be a stepping stone club for other A League clubs. Wonder if any player's have release clauses with Robinson going? Ibini?

[traffic light]

100% Agree, We need some loyal player's and a loyal coach. We shouldn't be a stepping stone club for other A League clubs. Wonder if any player's have release clauses with Robinson going? Ibini?

For sure.

Too many pencil dix on here saying its ok to go where ever for whatever aka frodo. So back up you weak cunce lets get a decent side and keep them.

And that coach Carl twat can keeping on rollin

[380]

Spare me the reflexive responses. But GVE is Newy, is available, knows youth, knows Australian football and is the greatest coach in this club's history.

He won't be available forever. I'll be pissed if the club doesn't approach him.

Stubbins > GVE

[Ghost of Plague]

Stubbins > GVE
Deans > daylight > Money > everyone else.

[Frodo]

For sure.

Too many pencil dix on here saying its ok to go where ever for whatever aka frodo. So back up you weak cunce lets get a decent side and keep them.

And that coach Carl twat can keeping on rollin

Rent free buddy.

Rent free!!!

[onlooker]

Nicky Carle is doing his A- Badge and he always wanted to come back to Newy. Give him a crack. Currently coaching NPL 2 SD Raiders I believe.

[Couscous]

Nicky Carle is doing his A- Badge and he always wanted to come back to Newy. Give him a crack.

Sure, as a junior assistant.

[Grimario]

Sure, as a junior assistant.

To Arthur Papas?

I assume it's time to get that thread restarted again.

[Bremsstrahlung]

We should just get Lawrie into the Football Manager thread to recruit the next coach.

Get FM to sponsor the ensuing docu-series All or Nothing:Newcastle Jets and the sequel Nothing: Newcastle Jets. Extra money will let us survive another 6 months.

FFS, it's like nobody is even trying to fix this.

[Grimario]

We should just get Lawrie into the Football Manager thread to recruit the next coach.

Get FM to sponsor the ensuing docu-series All or Nothing:Newcastle Jets and the sequel Nothing: Newcastle Jets. Extra money will let us survive another 6 months.

FFS, it's like nobody is even trying to fix this.

I don't want the job though.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I don't want the job though.

I thought I was being subtle.
Think big picture.
"It is with great regret that both the Newcastle Jets and Newcastle Knights have folded. But with great pleasure, we announce the demolition and redevelopment of Turton Road Precinct to include the world biggest and best Disc Golf Course" - Grimario, July 2021

[Grimario]

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/a-league-carl-robinson-departs

And it's done.

[StannyCFCJET]

I don't want the job though.

We could do a job share haha

[Grimario]

We could do a job share haha

I already work for one of the sponsors, so it might be a COI.

[Couscous]

If Ibini goes off with Carl I'm gunna go apesh|t.

[Retro Jet]

These Jets flying around the city today.
Feels like an omen....

[pv4]

If Ibini goes off with Carl I'm gunna go apesh|t.

Ibini potentially leaving opens up so many great opportunities to use all that cash on. I honestly welcome it happening. We can invest in far more efficient players that will last more than 60minutes.

[StannyCFCJET]

Ibini potentially leaving opens up so many great opportunities to use all that cash on. I honestly welcome it happening. We can invest in far more efficient players that will last more than 60minutes.

Yeah let's get rid of our best forward after losing our coach. We will definitely stay competitive

[Frodo]

Yeah let's get rid of our best forward after losing our coach. We will definitely stay competitive

Jeez Stanny. I thought I was the most negative bugger in this place... Even I can't lower the bar to that level.

[StannyCFCJET]

Jeez Stanny. I thought I was the most negative bugger in this place... Even I can't lower the bar to that level.

Not sure if your agreeing with me on Ibini being a key player for us or not?

[380]

Bernie in a Beanie would have been on to his people to speak to our people ( whats left of them ) 5 mins after Carl made his decision.

IMO Bernie won't be here Rd 1

[Frodo]

Not sure if your agreeing with me on Ibini being a key player for us or not?

That solitary goal he scored during his 6 game stint definitely shows me he is our best attacking option. Lmao. Even Fitzgerald scored more goals than him during that period I'm pretty sure, and he would struggle to make a decent A league sides bench nowadays.

If Bernie goes there are plenty of other options who could do the same amount of jogging around the park as he does. Hoffman can do what he does but with defensive discipline and a much higher level of stamina.

[StannyCFCJET]

That solitary goal he scored during his 6 game stint definitely shows me he is our best attacking option. Lmao. Even Fitzgerald scored more goals than him during that period I'm pretty sure, and he would struggle to make a decent A league sides bench nowadays.

If Bernie goes there are plenty of other options who could do the same amount of jogging around the park as he does. Hoffman can do what he does but with defensive discipline and a much higher level of stamina.

How people can't see how good Bernie is is madness

[Jetkel]

Bernies decent but not as good as some make out nor anywhere as good as he should be. In saying all that, do I want him gone? No farken way. Will he be gone? Yes farken way.

[anfield]

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/a-league-carl-robinson-departs

And it's done.

Lost all respect for Robinson, he said he really enjoyed his time at the club and loved working working with Lawrie and Joel. But he then departs, no class. What sort of msg does that send out?? The going gets tough you bail first. Fine Carl, go. We don't want you.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Too good an offer to turn down.
Big club like WSW.

Surely taking the piss.
If we think we are a disgruntled fan base, should hear their supporters. Plastics too.

[mic22]

Would be nice if we hired Popovic.
Just to see wsw get all excited, try to poach him (and succeed, probably) and sack CR.

[Jetmaster]

Sad Johnny T finally turned on us.

Seen it all over the last 40 or so years.

What I can say with certainty is that if Newcastle can ever get its shit together it could be the third biggest club in Australia, after Smurfs and Victory. Citeh have money and nothing else. WSW only got "big" because of the almost defunct RBB and Covic and Topor winning them an ACL.

If money was no object and we were able to build a team of the quality of Citeh or Smurfs, consistently, there would be 15-20,000 at every game, and (as proven many times over) it would have a whole city behind them, and probably its own stadium.

Few in Sydney or Melbourne (and do overseas visitors) see this and think having clubs in Canberra or Western Melbourne or Sydney will be bigger, but experiments before show this isn't necessarily the case.

Newcastle has survived on almost nothing for 43 years and is still here, somehow. It's because deep down it works.

[The Dunster]

The Newcastle Jets have come a long way. We used to develop players for other clubs or as a welfare centre for players unable to get contracts elsewhere due to lack of talent of injuries.
Now we are trialling coaches for other clubs to poach.
I wonder how long ago Carl was approached ?
I wonder if the deal with the Petratos brothers, Donachie, Millar and so on were strategic given they and Robinson all share the same Management Agency.

What happened with Robinson and Avid in the MLS was a signal that he couldn't be trusted - and I reckon if we do some digging this WSW deal will be not much different.

Then you have Uga , Langlois, and Ledley also under the Avid Banner.

I reckon Ugarkovich is as good as gone. [Legally no player would be obliged to honour their existing contracts].

[The Dunster]

Please sign GVE as coach so we can be in no doubt about the relationship between the club and the fans.

[Couscous]

Please sign GVE as coach so we can be in no doubt about the relationship between the club and the fans.

That would demonstrate far too much respect to fans.

[Negative Police]

Jets likley to look local for coach as CEO rules out player exit

So who wants to coach? pay is free coffee

[Grimario]

So who wants to coach? pay is free coffee

I love coffee.

[Jeterpool]

Fitzy has left for Jamshedpur FC in India

[Frodo]

Fitzy has left for Jamshedpur FC in India

That's 2 coasties gone in 1 window isn't it?

Some positives to enjoy at least.

[turbojetfireV8]

That's 2 coasties gone in 1 window isn't it?

Some positives to enjoy at least.

they'll probably come back to us positive as well...

[Bon]

they'll probably come back to us positive as well...

:lulzturtle:

[Mark325]

well seems likely we are losing ugarkovic

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/i-don-t-want-to-be-part-of-another-rebuild-ugarkovic-chases-jets-exit

[Grimario]

Who could blame him?

[Bon]

Who could blame him?

Can't blame him at all..

It still hurts though.

[Frodo]

I know this sounds a bit reactionary. But with Uga gone and Lawrie still here, I genuinely can't think of many reasons to follow the Jets anymore. There's still a couple of the boys that I have respect for within the playing group, but mostly it's guys that I don't really care for. The coaching staff come and go so quickly these days that I can't really care about them anymore. The owner and CEO can fark right off. They did get rid of the red and blue nonsense, which was a great move IMO. Jetman is cool I guess, he does flips. The kids running around at halftime is still probably the best football I get to watch every other week, hopefully they still get to play with Covid regulations.

I never minding losing most weeks and having basket-case owners when we at least had the F3 derby to look forward too. Nowadays they are basically all former teammates anyway, it's brave to even call it a rivalry anymore. Don't even get me started on our CEO organising crappy PR stunts with the opposition each year like an uncool dad trying to be hip and happening.


Can someone start a thread with lists of positives from the club. I don't suspect it will be very long, but there could be something in there to keep us around a bit longer.

[A.J.]

So if Uga goes, what is our current best 11? Do we even have 11? Assuming we stick to 352 or 532 whatever it was:
Italiano
Hoff Boogs Topor Johnny Otoole
Kangaroo thurgate
Ibini
Kosta Roy

Pretty bare bones

[Jetmaster]

Jetman is cool I guess, he does flips

New woke, PC Jetman does no tricks anymore and looks like Astroboy. Another reason to hate.

[turbojetfireV8]

I assume it is to go to those covid-infested f*cks in western shitney then?

[mic22]

The fact that going to WSW is seen as an ambitious move, says it all about the reputation of the Jets.

[anfield]

well seems likely we are losing ugarkovic

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/i-don-t-want-to-be-part-of-another-rebuild-ugarkovic-chases-jets-exit

I would only loan or sell him overseas, too good of a player to loose for free. I certainly wouldn't release him to another A League club. Maybe he needs to realise that every A League club will be rebuilding this year with a hugely reduced salary cap.
Maybe time to give Mitch Oxborrow another go, only 25 surely he should be in his prime in next couple of years.

[StannyCFCJET]

We need to tell Stevie overseas is fine but you can forget another A-league club

[Frodo]

New woke, PC Jetman does no tricks anymore and looks like Astroboy. Another reason to hate.

Gosh Dangit!

[Tommyjet]

Thinking we may look local for a few spots. Thoughts on brymora?
Any others with good seasons worth looking at?

[My2BobsWorth]

Ugar is at best an average player, only when supported by the players behind him. Defensive blunders and bad passes have cost us games in the past. Lets not forget who gave him a chance when no other bastard would. We will not forget.

[Couscous]

Ugar is at best an average player, only when supported by the players behind him.

Lolwot

[StannyCFCJET]

Ugar is at best an average player, only when supported by the players behind him. Defensive blunders and bad passes have cost us games in the past. Lets not forget who gave him a chance when no other bastard would. We will not forget.

Possibly the most wrong post on the forum

[Frodo]

Ugar is at best an average player, only when supported by the players behind him. Defensive blunders and bad passes have cost us games in the past. Lets not forget who gave him a chance when no other bastard would. We will not forget.

Found the Membah's Alt account. There's "hot takes" and then there's "steaming piles of takes" like this one.

[Tommyjet]

Surprise surprise ibini wants out to

[StannyCFCJET]

Surprise surprise ibini wants out to

Has that been confirmed?

[Bremsstrahlung]

How are those “buyers” coming along?
There won’t be a club left soon.

I swear they “took” Tinklers license for less than this trash.
Lee and co are turning this club into the laughing stock of the league, and damaging both the club and leagues reputation beyond repair imo.

Maybe not just us, but who is going to sponsor and invest in this league of clubs are failing.

Also read that Fux money/contract is linked with having 12 teams. Failure to provide this could let them rip it up.

[The Dunster]

Surprise surprise ibini wants out to

WSW fer sure.

[The Dunster]

Mods can we combine this thread with the SAP thread please given they might be our best 11 now.

[The Dunster]

We need to tell Stevie overseas is fine but you can forget another A-league club

The club is a basket case. To dictate terms to any player wanting to leave wouldn't be ethical given their financial status. The club should respect his wishes and let him go.

[turbojetfireV8]

also, how ethical is it that Robinson appears to be (covertly but actively) coercing Jets players to join him at SARS-COV2 central?

[StannyCFCJET]

The club is a basket case. To dictate terms to any player wanting to leave wouldn't be ethical given their financial status. The club should respect his wishes and let him go.

**** that, we mose well just fold already then

[belchardo]

it seems to me our strategy should be to loan players out.

that way they can't go to another a-league club, the club isn't holding players back, and we might make some income (i suspect the terms would have to be very heavily weighted towards the team the player is going to).

am i missing something?

[Ghost of Plague]

Lee and co are turning this club into the laughing stock of the league
Back on our ****ing perch baby.
Go the jets.

[pv4]

it seems to me our strategy should be to loan players out.

that way they can't go to another a-league club, the club isn't holding players back, and we might make some income (i suspect the terms would have to be very heavily weighted towards the team the player is going to).

am i missing something?

That would be a lot of contracts and paperwork for Lawrie to work through..

[mic22]

So, realistically:
Ugar out,
Ibini out,
Ledley not coming back
(anyone else?)

How does a starting 11 look like? (If there is still a team, that is...)

Italiano
Johnny Boogaard Topor
Hoff Thurgate Kanta ??? O'Toole
Roy Najjarine

[Tommyjet]

Has that been confirmed?
I said wants out not that he has left.

[My2BobsWorth]

I love upsetting the Ugar groupies, not exactly the brains trust are they. If he wants out, fine. My loyalty lies with the players who stay.

[380]

Let Ibini go, Blokes only good for 60min a game at best before he hits a brick wall and can't lift his hamstring injury riddled legs.

Uga wants to follow Welsh by native Welch by actions Robbo to the Wankerers then screw him, He can go play o/seas but not another A League club.

Problems solved

[The Dunster]

We should front up to the first game of the season with a squad comprising of only former KB United players. I'd buy a season ticket to see that.

[anfield]

Let Ibini go, Blokes only good for 60min a game at best before he hits a brick wall and can't lift his hamstring injury riddled legs.

Uga wants to follow Welsh by native Welch by actions Robbo to the Wankerers then screw him, He can go play o/seas but not another A League club.

Problems solved

Agree on both, Ibini can go to whoever wants him. He has had more clubs then Tiger Woods.
Uga can only be released overseas.
I'm sick of some of these players, Play for the shirt or get lost. I don't care if we fill the backend of the squad with NPL talent. As long as they are loyal players that will put in for the club.

[Mark325]

Honestly people who still hold onto the 'play for the shirt and be loyal' mentality need to get a grip.

Kanta has played for the shirt for many years and for his troubles he gets to sit on the bench for most games, have people tell him to join another club and get bagged out for his performances

If ugar or ibini or anyone can join a club with a coach, a good owner, a good ceo, some ****ing stability and for way more money then they should do it cause no ones feeding their family and paying their bills with 'loyalty and playing for the shirt'

[Frodo]

I'm just happy another ex-coastie is walking out on his own accord. There's always a silver lining of you look hard enough.

Plus, the new owner, if we find one, will have less trouble clearing all the scum from our locker room when he or she arrives now. Swings and roundabouts I guess.

Plus I'm sure we'll have no troubles replacing his, checks notes...... 1 goal and 1 assist next season!! Lmao.

[Frodo]

Honestly people who still hold onto the 'play for the shirt and be loyal' mentality need to get a grip.

Kanta has played for the shirt for many years and for his troubles he gets to sit on the bench for most games, have people tell him to join another club and get bagged out for his performances

If ugar or ibini or anyone can join a club with a coach, a good owner, a good ceo, some ****ing stability and for way more money then they should do it cause no ones feeding their family and paying their bills with 'loyalty and playing for the shirt'

Yeah, "play for the shirt shit" is kind of childish once you step out into the real world. Play for the contract, put incentives in their contract and make them chase the money. Watch them play their arses off come renewal time too.

[skullboy]

Honestly people who still hold onto the 'play for the shirt and be loyal' mentality need to get a grip.

Kanta has played for the shirt for many years and for his troubles he gets to sit on the bench for most games, have people tell him to join another club and get bagged out for his performances

If ugar or ibini or anyone can join a club with a coach, a good owner, a good ceo, some ****ing stability and for way more money then they should do it cause no ones feeding their family and paying their bills with 'loyalty and playing for the shirt'

Don’t disagree but these tools have signed contracts. As long as the club is not in breach of those contracts then the players have NO right to leave. There is NO way they should be allowed to leave unless they go overseas and the club gets a transfer fee. If the jets let either of these players go to another a league team I am done with the club.

[Jeterpool]

Lets also take stock and realise the two players in the articles are also aligned with the same agency as Robbo.

There's quite a few of our players on their books - Donachie (loaned for season), Millar (loaned til January), Dimi (gone), Kosta & Maki, Stevie, Bernie.....I'm sure there are others.

It appears the agency is just clearing the deck of their players from the club.

[mic22]

If Millar is on loan until January, is the plan to have him back for part of the season?
(Is there a plan?)

[mic22]

Don’t disagree but these tools have signed contracts. As long as the club is not in breach of those contracts then the players have NO right to leave. There is NO way they should be allowed to leave unless they go overseas and the club gets a transfer fee. If the jets let either of these players go to another a league team I am done with the club.

100% this.
Messi wanted out of Barca... see what happened?

[anfield]

Yeah, "play for the shirt shit" is kind of childish once you step out into the real world. Play for the contract, put incentives in their contract and make them chase the money. Watch them play their arses off come renewal time too.

I get that, but I'm also sick of the Jets being a transit lounge for players that are already chasing another deal in the A League. Look at Ibini signed because of the coach who only was here until he found a better deal.

[Ghost of Plague]

I'm sick of some of these players, Play for the shirt or get lost. I don't care if we fill the backend of the squad with NPL talent. As long as they are loyal players that will put in for the club.

Hey man the 1930's called they want their bullshit back.

[Ghost of Plague]

Don’t disagree but these tools have signed contracts. As long as the club is not in breach of those contracts then the players have NO right to leave. There is NO way they should be allowed to leave unless they go overseas and the club gets a transfer fee. If the jets let either of these players go to another a league team I am done with the club.
You are making a lot of assumptions about an organisation headed by a bloke who continually talks out of both sides of his mouth.its also noteworthy that no one from the Jets has mentioned anything about players or coaches breaking contracts. clauses are there for a reason and anyone assuming this rabble of bullshit has upheld every part of their end of the deal hasnt been around long enough to witness the crap that goes on here.

[samcan]

I get that, but I'm also sick of the Jets being a transit lounge for players that are already chasing another deal in the A League. Look at Ibini signed because of the coach who only was here until he found a better deal.

Agree. "Supporters" thinking that letting good players go is ok becasue their undies are soiled can gtfo. They stay and play. LMNJGA


Hey man the 1930's called they want their bullshit back.

Well played.
Very plague-esq. Youll do as a replacement

[anfield]

Hey man the 1930's called they want their bullshit back.

Sounds like a joke from the 1930's.......

At the end of the day, the gaffer obviously had no plans to be here long term. If some of the players feel let down, it should be with Robinson.

[The Dunster]

Don’t disagree but these tools have signed contracts. As long as the club is not in breach of those contracts then the players have NO right to leave. There is NO way they should be allowed to leave unless they go overseas and the club gets a transfer fee. If the jets let either of these players go to another a league team I am done with the club.

Unlikely the contracts are valid given the clubs money issues and the fact they had to resort to jobkeeper to pay players - and if players weren't be paid in full then I'd say the club would have no hold on them at all.

[Frodo]

At the end of the day, if we had an organisation that was run properly and a team that players desired to play for, these guys wouldn't need to be held to their contracts at gunpoint.

Imagine signing for a club with Lawrie telling you it's all sunshine and lollipops when he knew full well that we were heading towards implosion a few months from now? You'd want out as soon as possible as well. Covid or not, we were always going down this path, the pandemic just sped things up a bit. These guys who resigned have kids found out they are on a sinking ship, it's their agents job to make sure they don't go down with it.

If I was Mr Lee, if get rid of Lawrie now, then go find a buyer without his bullshit ruining things. Once the new owner comes in and takes a look at where we are, they sit down with their new CEO and devise a 5 yr and 10 yr plan for the club. Give staff and players targets to hit and find people who can get it done.

That way, when someone arrives they know where we've come and where we are heading from day one. No surprises 6 months in or later to unsettle players. It's really not hard to be somewhat competent, is it?

[mic22]

Lee had a 5 year plan... too bad he decided he wasn't that interested after 2 years.
Not much Lawrie can do without $$$.
FFA should realise that teams outside major cities (like the Jets and yes, the CCM) are important for a healthy league: but instead of supporting them, they create plastic monsters like WU and Macarthur.
If I were Lawrie, I'd pull the plug and withdraw the team on Dec 26.

[pv4]

Unlikely the contracts are valid given the clubs money issues and the fact they had to resort to jobkeeper to pay players - and if players weren't be paid in full then I'd say the club would have no hol on them at all.

If you believe Lawrie's direct words, he claims we have not yet breached UG or Ibini's contracts and that they have been paid in full. This was said during a 15min interview I just watched on facebook with Lawrie (on the Newcastle Jerks supports page, or similar). It also included some other interesting things too - most notable for me was WSW were subsidizing part of Fitz's wage last season, which for me made him even better value for money.

[Bon]

If you believe Lawrie's direct words, he claims we have not yet breached UG or Ibini's contracts and that they have been paid in full. This was said during a 15min interview I just watched on facebook with Lawrie (on the Newcastle Jerks supports page, or similar). It also included some other interesting things too - most notable for me was WSW were subsidizing part of Fitz's wage last season, which for me made him even better value for money.

They also had snippets of him on ABC radio this morning, saying the usual rhetoric:
- New coach will be Aussie, too hard to get things sorted for an OS coach due to covid
- We have 16 players, and legally need to sign two more senior players to have an official team
- They are aiming to sign 2-4 more players, with 4 guys at the club trialing yesterday (on first day of pre-season)

Edit - Looks like there is a clip up on the Jets page..
https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/video/presser-lawrie-mckinna-october-2020-0

[Couscous]

I'm a little worried about my club.