i have just as much respect for islam as christianity. i.e, none
go science! thanks for giving us quantum mechanics. without your awe-inspiring predictions and beauty, we couldn't be having this conversation right now.
i have just as much respect for islam as christianity. i.e, none
go science! thanks for giving us quantum mechanics. without your awe-inspiring predictions and beauty, we couldn't be having this conversation right now.
Last edited by snake; 19-12-2014 at 07:42 AM.
we will loose
mkfs do u do this m8?Originally Posted by snake
how's the efficacy?
we will loose
Learn a bit more about the Islam denominations before you swipe with such a broad brush.
Different denominations of the faith interpret and realise their text in different ways, just like Christians around the world.
The media tend to only present one side of this multi-faceted faith. And governments around the world are quick to play on, and overhype, the fear angle in order to introduce security measures designed to control the local populations.
The Christian faith is not without it's fair share of violence and intolerant killings throughout it's history too.
Islam's "pretty clear" view on atheism isn't as clear, or as practised, by the wider Islamic followers and rupert Murdoch and western political leaders are happy for us to believe.
Sensible question re "marriage" - did it exist BC, was there a ceremony for the union.
If so, was it religious or ceremonial or was it just life time "mating"?
Curious.
a very sensible question
joseph was married to mary
noah had a wife
none of these people were christian, ergo marriage is a practice adopted by christianity, rather than a christian practice
we will loose
I will be.
but was it called 'marriage' back then, hence the debate about who owns the world.
wait? was Jesus the first Christian or was the religion around before that?
i am both learning lots and getting more confused all at the same time here.
To be fair, the government deems it illegal for me to operate my business on Chrissy day therefore im forced to have it off.
back in the day i played golf every Christmas day and avoided family at all costs so i dont think im one to 'celebrate' it.
nowadays though with Plague Jnr CHRISTMAS RULES LETS BUILD MORE LEGO.
Each to their own. Use the message from The Bible, The Tipitaka or whatever, to guide you to be a better person. But, sometimes, i think people take it too literally. Times have changed, the world has developed, the same 'following things blindly' approach doesn't work for everything.
If your diety, or God, is all forgiving, loves everyone etc, why does it matter? Will God not forgive some people, but forgive others?
Do people in jail who have killed/raped, that 'discover God' in jail, still go to Heaven?
Do people that don't follow a particular denomination, that go about their life respecting others and serving communities and being good people, get turned away for not believing?
If you rock up at the Pearly gates, having not believed, and God is there with his list, checking people off, denies you entry. Does God forgive the one sin, "not believing" and let you in?
Jim Jefferies take on Gay Marriage, is rather funny.
http://vimeo.com/99620602
Agree about Quantum Mechanics. And it pretty much placed the dividing line between science and religion once and for all. The Christians could no longer argue about intelligent design and a deterministic universe given the existence of a universal constant with a non-zero value [Plancks Constant]
Without the Arab scholars much of our histories would have been lost throughout the dark ages and as such many of the building blocks upon which modern science and methodology were built upon.
They also made solid contributions to physics, astronomy, biology, universal healthcare, and mathematics.
As such, Islamic scholars were so highly regarded up until the end of the golden age that they were very well paid for their efforts.
Compare this to Christianity which blatantly opposes science and has absolutely no respect for evidenced based research.
The problen for the Islamic world is that they peaked a very long time ago and beyond the last of the golden age scholars it could be argued that not only was there little if any progress - they may have even regressed.
Last edited by The Dunster; 19-12-2014 at 10:11 AM.
I do have the answer to this.
The ceremonial aspect of marriage came into vogue in the 1100's according to some web page I viewed last night.
Marriage still existed prior to this obviously but we did not have the ceremony part involved in the equation
I am a little occupied at present to reply to this and do it justice.
I will reply though when later today when I have the time
This does it for me. I don't think you can be totally opposed to something "because the bible says so", yet let other things slip under the cracks.
http://www.11points.com/Books/11_Thi..._You_Do_Anyway
Included in this are:
-Shellfish, good thing we don't eat prawns at Christmas.
- Playing with pig skin, it's ok now, but football was pretty much kicking around a pig skin with air.
- No polyester clothing
- No tattoos
- Shaving a beard, or cutting hair from your temple.
is this the equilivant of the modern day PR stunt to announce a forth coiming announcement about a project that will be investigated as a possible future announcment.
a bit lilke this?
Last edited by GazFish35; 19-12-2014 at 11:17 AM.
Shoots down the argument straight away from another lefty aethist who wishes to take a pot shot at Christianity with selective materialI know that nine of these 11 cite the Old Testament, which Christianity doesn't necessarily adhere to as law.
Can't say I have read this edition but would not be surprised if it had references to John Wayne and Clint Eastwood being how the Yanks like to jazz shit upNew American Standard Bible
No I just don't have the time to get long winded with you at present!!!
I see it as a real shame that many people think that Christianity and science are polar opposites. There are many Christians who are unfortunately like that but there are so many that accept both and understand the compatibility.
Science can explain the how but not the why.
Personally I see them as complementary with science explaining how God's creation operates.
See this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJMp6p3tLj4) from Professor of Mathematics at Oxford who discusses the compatibility of science and God
There are also many of the so-called formative scientists who were Christians or believed in God (http://www.godandscience.org/apologe...encefaith.html)
the word marriage is referenced in Genesis which is the first book of the bible. Of course it is a translation and would look different to modern marriage but it as a concept has been around in BC. I don't know it was a ceremony but it was always between a man and woman
why devalue the scientific process by having an overarching, unseen and unprovable force being the explanation for everything?
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