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    why is it only people who weren't smart enough for university who deride qualifications as 'a bit of paper'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boz-monaut View Post
    why is it only people who weren't smart enough for university who deride qualifications as 'a bit of paper'?
    nah, its just a colloquial term. no offence intended. Mrs Plague has a couple of degrees and she is way smarter than me.

    it was more about some people I've met in my time thinking that a degree is a better achievement than a trade or a small business. i rate them all the same to be honest, but most importantly i don't think one is more important than the other (nor would our world survive without all 3).
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    And I don't argue with FR. The bloke is a legend and deserves great praise for his contributions to football in the Hunter.
    He is also the second best poster on the entire Foz behind you
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    sometimes there's more to life than just winning
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    What a deadset ****ing coward **** you are
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    Seems like I am WRONG

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    If I was a twenty something these days I'd be shitting myself about the future.
    You mean a world where Lexus have developed a Hoverboard?
    no good sir, the future looks amazing............
    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    And I don't argue with FR. The bloke is a legend and deserves great praise for his contributions to football in the Hunter.
    He is also the second best poster on the entire Foz behind you
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    sometimes there's more to life than just winning
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    What a deadset ****ing coward **** you are
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    Seems like I am WRONG

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    nah, its just a colloquial term. no offence intended. Mrs Plague has a couple of degrees and she is way smarter than me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    Due to previous good behaviour I'll grant you that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boz-monaut View Post
    why is it only people who weren't smart enough for university who deride qualifications as 'a bit of paper'?
    I was smart enough for University.

    Didn't wish to go.

    Still a bit of paper that means **** all to me.

    The world is about people who can do it and people who can't do it.


    That piece of paper means absolutely **** all in your ability to do it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    Pollies are so friggin scared of offending someone these days their public statements are generally so lame. ?
    Thats most of the population mate.

    So a whitey, blacky and greeny walk into a bar they sit down and have a drink and a share a few yarns cause thats how a large majority of Aussies get along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    I was smart enough for University.

    Didn't wish to go.

    Still a bit of paper that means **** all to me.

    The world is about people who can do it and people who can't do it.


    That piece of paper means absolutely **** all in your ability to do it or not.
    That bit of a paper gets you in the door to have a crack at it.

    btw dont even try talking up how good ya kid is if they are in law. Anyone who gets out and earns a living is a champ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    I was smart enough for University.

    Didn't wish to go.

    Still a bit of paper that means **** all to me.

    The world is about people who can do it and people who can't do it.


    That piece of paper means absolutely **** all in your ability to do it or not.
    God damn right ..... Example : I got a post graduate diploma (Sydney Uni) and don't even have a degree.... And I'm French ..... work that one out Boz..... Bit of paper mate.....
    Dare to Zlatan

    Originally Posted by Grimario

    He won't make that mistake at Newcastle since our team is full of number 2's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk View Post
    That bit of a paper gets you in the door to have a crack at it.

    btw dont even try talking up how good ya kid is if they are in law. Anyone who gets out and earns a living is a champ.
    Your right it gets you in the door.

    Then it is up to you.

    The paper though just blacklists the majority from certain professions.

    You could have the best person in the world to be a surgeon.
    Accurate decision making, steady hands, cool as Griff nerve etc.
    Poor bloke though is not stupid but not good enough to get into medical degree an he has no chance of ever working as a Surgeon


    Then you get some one who is academically smart but may not have the nerve, decision making skills, steady hands etc then they licence them to slice ****s open.

    Go ****ing figure the stupidity of stopping people from working in a profession they are capable of doing well and accepting people who may not be as good based ONLY on their academic level of achievement??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Your right it gets you in the door.

    Then it is up to you.

    The paper though just blacklists the majority from certain professions.

    You could have the best person in the world to be a surgeon.
    Accurate decision making, steady hands, cool as Griff nerve etc.
    Poor bloke though is not stupid but not good enough to get into medical degree an he has no chance of ever working as a Surgeon


    Then you get some one who is academically smart but may not have the nerve, decision making skills, steady hands etc then they licence them to slice ****s open.

    Go ****ing figure the stupidity of stopping people from working in a profession they are capable of doing well and accepting people who may not be as good based ONLY on their academic level of achievement??
    please please please don't be this silly.

    you want a world full of Dr Nick Riviera's?
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    And I don't argue with FR. The bloke is a legend and deserves great praise for his contributions to football in the Hunter.
    He is also the second best poster on the entire Foz behind you
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    sometimes there's more to life than just winning
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    What a deadset ****ing coward **** you are
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    Seems like I am WRONG

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    please please please don't be this silly.

    you want a world full of Dr Nick Riviera's?
    Stop it Plague u going to get yourself skin failure mate
    Dare to Zlatan

    Originally Posted by Grimario

    He won't make that mistake at Newcastle since our team is full of number 2's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    please please please don't be this silly.

    you want a world full of Dr Nick Riviera's?
    Wouldn't mind seeing a few Mr, McGreg's running about, to be fair

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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfMan View Post
    Wouldn't mind seeing a few Mr, McGreg's running about, to be fair
    Well technically Mr McGreg can't actually 'run' that well.

    But I know what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    please please please don't be this silly.

    you want a world full of Dr Nick Riviera's?
    Not about Dr Nick etc

    I would rather we seen people employed in areas more suited to their ACTUAL talents rather than based on an alleged level of intelligence achieved by what is an under performing area and that is the Education departments of Australia which leave a lot to be desired for results for all students

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post

    I would rather we seen people employed in areas more suited to their ACTUAL talents rather than based on an alleged level of intelligence achieved by what is an under performing area and that is the Education departments of Australia which leave a lot to be desired for results for all students
    sadly though, some people have a much higher opinion of their ability than others do.


    if only there was some place they could all go to determine which ones are suitable for the specific tasks.................
    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    And I don't argue with FR. The bloke is a legend and deserves great praise for his contributions to football in the Hunter.
    He is also the second best poster on the entire Foz behind you
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    sometimes there's more to life than just winning
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    What a deadset ****ing coward **** you are
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    Seems like I am WRONG

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    sadly though, some people have a much higher opinion of their ability than others do.


    if only there was some place they could all go to determine which ones are suitable for the specific tasks.................
    Communist alert! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Your right it gets you in the door.

    Then it is up to you.

    The paper though just blacklists the majority from certain professions.

    You could have the best person in the world to be a surgeon.
    Accurate decision making, steady hands, cool as Griff nerve etc.
    Poor bloke though is not stupid but not good enough to get into medical degree an he has no chance of ever working as a Surgeon


    Then you get some one who is academically smart but may not have the nerve, decision making skills, steady hands etc then they licence them to slice ****s open.

    Go ****ing figure the stupidity of stopping people from working in a profession they are capable of doing well and accepting people who may not be as good based ONLY on their academic level of achievement??
    I've seen a few orthopedic surgeons at a place I used to work (electronics w/shop)
    come in the door asking to get something fixed that they had already 'had a crack at'.
    Seeing them with a screwdriver in their hand and how they used it was scarry stuff.
    Should make them do the equivalent of BHP apprentice training for 6months.
    THAT will sort out the hand skills with tools at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Jet View Post
    I've seen a few orthopedic surgeons at a place I used to work (electronics w/shop)
    come in the door asking to get something fixed that they had already 'had a crack at'.
    Seeing them with a screwdriver in their hand and how they used it was scarry stuff.
    Should make them do the equivalent of BHP apprentice training for 6months.
    THAT will sort out the hand skills with tools at least.
    please tell me you did that deliberately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    If they wish to keep differentiating themselves we will never get anywhere.

    They are as Australian as you or me.

    High time they accepted that they are Australian and we can all move on and forward.

    This constant bringing up of the past achieves little but more division

    To me the ball is in the court of the Aboriginal community to instigate change.
    They for some reason feel the need to constantly pass it to the government to sort this situation out.

    Change will not come until they are prepared to accept some realities they ignore
    "This constant bringing up of the past achieves little but more division"
    Complete BS.

    It's the constant ignoring of the past by non-indigenous Australia that causes the division.

    Aboriginal Australia has been attempting to instigate change for decades, but government policy limiting self determination has impeded this.

    For decades, centuries even, government policy and action has not been about listening to, or respecting aboriginal culture or people, but controlling it.

    Indigenous Australians deserve far greater respect than they have been afforded since 1788 and allowing them to speak openly and freely of the way they would like to represented in the constitution should be only another step forward. Having the rest of us tell them "here's your options, pick the best we give you" isn't acceptable for a culture with a longer continuous history than any other on the planet. It's an insult and and embarrassment.

    What realities are Aboriginal Australia ignoring?

    From what I see, and from those in my community that I speak to, the realities are being faced, and in many communities they are being overcome, largely through community based leadership and open dialogue. Not overriding government control.


    The indigenous leaders in this article aren't asking for control of the constitutional change process. They're asking for open dialogue and being able to lead the discussions towards consensus. Why should that be held from them?

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