Daily Australian News Thread 2015

[furns]

Lol yes too difficult to contact us - all you need do is call the Jets, or do a google search. They don't care enough to check the facts.

[BodyNovo]

I don't expect a response but have hit him up about it

[belchardo]

Jean-Paul de Marigny, the quiet achiever helping revive Newcastle Jets' fortunes

Jean-Paul de Marigny’s move from assistant coach at Melbourne Victory to assistant coach at Newcastle Jets (http://www.theguardian.com/football/newcastle-jets) was one of the more curious transfers of the off-season. Why would anyone leave a championship-winning club to go to the last-placed, crisis-ridden club he had taken to court just a few years earlier?
It was family, not football, that forced “JP” to leave Melbourne. On 1 May earlier this year, as Victory were preparing for a blockbuster A-League (http://www.theguardian.com/football/a-league) semi-final against Melbourne City, De Marigny’s wife Donna was undergoing surgery for breast cancer. Victory went on to win that semi-final 3-0, and then repeated the same score in the grand final against Sydney FC. De Marigny, however, found it hard to enjoy the moment.

“Football-wise it was the highest you could go in this country, but personal life was as low as I could be,” he says. “So it was mixed emotions. It was like a double life basically.”

When the season finished he left Melbourne Victory immediately, turning his back on a two-year deal at the most successful and most stable club in the country to return to Sydney and look after his wife. For a coach who was out of the A-League from 2006 to 2013, that’s a big call. De Marigny, of course, says “there was really no decision to make”.

There are two JPs – the ruthless, football-obsessed competitor that the fans see, and the doting husband and father his friends and colleagues know. You get a complete picture of the man when he says: “I still regard one of my biggest achievements – apart from being a father and a husband – is actually making a full-time living out of football in Australia.”

Born in Mauritius, at 15 De Marigny migrated to Australia with his mother after his parents divorced. In 1986, he met Donna on the Central Coast after a National Soccer League match, and since then his number one focus has been family. Four years ago, when his son Jake was 15 – the same age De Marigny was when he left his best mate in Mauritius – he turned down a coaching opportunity in Asia so that his son wouldn’t have to go through the same experience.

“Everything you do always has a cost,” he says. “My goal was always to break the cycle of my family being dysfunctional.”


His football career – 318 national league games, three championships, five Socceroos caps – has been one of crisis management. Just as he was hitting his strides as a young player, his first club Hakoah Sydney City collapsed and withdrew from the NSL after three rounds in 1987. In 2003-04 he had one season as head coach with Marconi, but that was interrupted as the NSL folded and re-started as the A-League 15 months later. In 2006 he was sacked as assistant coach by the Jets with two years to run on a three-year contract (he successfully sued the club over the dismissal, with the judge describing his treatment as “appalling” (http://www.theherald.com.au/story/482175/former-jets-coach-scores-goal-in-court/)). And when Donna fell ill this year, they were preparing to move to Melbourne permanently.

With the long shadow of former owner Nathan Tinkler slowly receding, Football Federation Australia as stand-in owners and under the guidance of 33-year-old rookie coach Scott Miller, Newcastle Jets sit third on the A-League ladder ahead of this Saturday’s derby against Central Coast Mariners. Ten years ago, De Marigny was the head coach of the Jets in their first ever competitive fixture against the Mariners. Now, he says he’s back for “unfinished business”.

De Marigny is a quiet achiever well-respected by his peers. He’s content to be recognised by the likes of Kevin Muscat, who sought him out to be his assistant, and Tony Popovic, who wanted him at Western Sydney Wanderers after he left Victory. Since joining the Jets, Miller has said De Marigny has been one of the biggest influences on his career (https://soundcloud.com/fox-sports-australia/fox-football-podcast-episode-5) – a big wrap from a coach who has worked with the likes of Martin Jol, Roy Hodgson, Mark Hughes, René Muelensteen and Ange Postecoglou.

That sort of respect is engendered by hard work and modesty, the values which are central to engineer a rebuild at the Jets. On the club’s past mistakes, De Marigny is blunt: “The way the owners conducted themselves was completely different to the values of this town. They didn’t take the responsibility that was given to them. For me, they took it with no humility and honour. They disrespected the whole process.”

De Marigny intimately understands the local aesthetic. When asked which players he wants to see at the club, he talks of uncovering the next Col Curran, David Lowe, Joe Senkalski, Craig Johnston and Ray Baartz. Ten years ago when the Jets put together their first A-League side, he was the first person to move to Newcastle, instructing the players they had to live in the area they wished to represent. “You’ve got to bring everything here to be part of it,” he says. “That was not negotiable. If you’re going to sign you need to live here in a proper manner.”

Nobody knows the fragility of Australian football better than De Marigny, but he’s already thinking of a long-term future in Newcastle. The Jets, like all regional clubs, operate best as an extended family, and now that Donna is on the mend, De Marigny is ready to nurse Australian football’s most dysfunctional family back to good health.

“I saw this as coming back to finish the work that we started,” he says. “I saw it as a big opportunity. I really believe that this football club can be a very, very big club. It has to be a big club for the benefit of the A-League.”


http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/nov/13/jean-paul-de-marigny-the-quiet-achiever-helping-revive-newcastle-jets-fortunes

[furns]

I love JP

[Jeterpool]

I love JP

I love you too mate

[furns]

I love you too mate
:roflz:

[Jeterpool]

Coach Scott MIller defends Jets defensive style

THE Central Coast Mariners have accused Newcastle of a negative playing style, but Jets coach Scott Miller gives the impression he takes it as a compliment.

As the Mariners taunted their arch rivals on Thursday with barbs about playing ‘‘ugly football’’ and ‘‘parking the bus’’, Miller declared defensive standards in the A-League left much to be desired.

‘‘It’s not just a Newcastle Jets thing,’’ Miller said.

‘‘Across the board, defending needs to be better as a country, as in Australian football.

‘‘In this country, we need to be better. I think it’s ad hoc.

‘‘It’s not organised. In a lot of teams it’s shown that their balance in the back four is not there. Whether or not they’re continually working on it or not, I’m not sure. But there seems to be a mindset here that’s not a defensive mindset at all.’’

After almost 10 years as an assistant coach with English club Fulham, Miller’s appointment as Newcastle’s head tactician this season is his first involvement in the A-League.

His top priority has been organising Newcastle’s defence, which last season leaked 55 goals in 27 games, more than any other team.

This season the Jets have conceded six goals in five games, an improvement that has helped them to three wins and third rung on the ladder.

That has not stopped the eighth-placed Mariners, who have not won since the opening round, from criticising Newcastle’s tactics.

‘‘It mightn’t be the prettiest game – they won’t want it to be the prettiest game,’’ Irish striker Roy O’Donovan said on Thursday. ‘‘We played them a couple of times in pre-season and they pretty much parked the bus.

‘‘It’s ugly. If I was a supporter, I wouldn’t go and watch it. But that’s the way they want to play. That’s fine.’’

O’Donovan said the Mariners ‘‘know what to expect’’ from their traditional rivals.

‘‘It’s going to be a tough game,’’ he said.

‘‘They play very defensively and they don’t play a very expansive game.’’

The Jets have scored as many goals (seven) as the Mariners this season but conceded five fewer.

Central Coast and Adelaide share the worst defensive record.

Miller had his own subtle dig at the Mariners when he said: ‘‘We’ve obviously started very well and they need to improve their form.’’

Miller accepted that last week’s 2-1 loss to Western Sydney had provided Newcastle’s critics with ammunition.

‘‘People were waiting for Newcastle to fail, and that’s a big motivation,’’ he said. ‘‘But any team can fail. The table doesn’t lie at this point.

‘‘We want to remain very focused on our ambition for the year, which is not to drop off whatsoever.’’

Despite the derby tradition, Miller insisted Saturday’s showdown held no extra significance for the Jets.

‘‘It’s just another game for us,’’ he said. ‘‘That’s the way we look at things.

‘‘It’s the next fixture, the next opposition, and we need to maintain our focus for that.’’

Miller said a win on Saturday, and 12 points from the first six games, ‘‘would be reflective of the commitment we’ve shown, as well as the performances’’.



I don't agree with this. We shouldn't be saying that in the media. It's important to the fans.

I hope the message behind closed doors is different.

This is, in my opinion, the first thing I can recall Miller has said wrong.

[380]

Prob just playing it down a tad so we don't lose Boogs to a straight red early on.

[Jetmaster]

Fair enough I reckon, keep it calm.

If we want emotional pandemonium we just need Hutch and Griff to appear prematch in sunglasses, a la WWE managers and have a face off.

Hutch pushes Griff and Sasho flies out of the crowd with a chair to the head of Hutcho, grabs the mic, denounces his Gyponess and apologises for the 2008 semi final comeback - game on.

[belchardo]

Fair enough I reckon, keep it calm.

If we want emotional pandemonium we just need Hutch and Griff to appear prematch in sunglasses, a la WWE managers and have a face off.

Hutch pushes Griff and Sasho flies out of the crowd with a chair to the head of Hutcho, grabs the mic, denounces his Gyponess and apologises for the 2008 semi final comeback - game on.

wouldn't mind dura popping up in V1 gear and giving mrdja what for as well.

[Grimario]

Fair enough I reckon, keep it calm.

If we want emotional pandemonium we just need Hutch and Griff to appear prematch in sunglasses, a la WWE managers and have a face off.

Hutch pushes Griff and Sasho flies out of the crowd with a chair to the head of Hutcho, grabs the mic, denounces his Gyponess and apologises for the 2008 semi final comeback - game on.

I think it's a pretty good indication of the shittiness of the coast that we've had quite a number of people turn their back on the scum and head north.

McBreen ran off to China to escape them and then came back to coach in Newy. Gumprecht coaches in Newy as well, doesn't he?
Sasho, Holland, Boogaard, Mitchell saw the light and came to us.

Are there any examples of Newy folk turning gypo?

[Jeterpool]

I think it's a pretty good indication of the shittiness of the coast that we've had quite a number of people turn their back on the scum and head north.

McBreen ran off to China to escape them and then came back to coach in Newy. Gumprecht coaches in Newy as well, doesn't he?
Sasho, Holland, Boogaard, Mitchell saw the light and came to us.

Are there any examples of Newy folk turning gypo?

Pv4

[Grimario]

Pv4

I said Newy folk.

[Zico]

I think it's a pretty good indication of the shittiness of the coast that we've had quite a number of people turn their back on the scum and head north.

McBreen ran off to China to escape them and then came back to coach in Newy. Gumprecht coaches in Newy as well, doesn't he?
Sasho, Holland, Boogaard, Mitchell saw the light and came to us.

Are there any examples of Newy folk turning gypo?
Musialik

[furns]

Stuey is back in Newy

[Grimario]

Musialik

Realised his mistake, never played a game and moved to Rosebuds, didn't he?

[The Dunster]

Troy Hearfield went to Mariners. Now Playing for Weston Bears.

[Bon]

Hutch pushes Griff and Sasho flies out of the crowd with a chair to the head of Hutcho, grabs the mic, denounces his Gyponess and apologises for the 2008 semi final comeback - game on.

Holy shit, I lost it reading this.. hahaha..
Well in.

[halo se7en]

I don't agree with this. We shouldn't be saying that in the media. It's important to the fans.

I hope the message behind closed doors is different.

This is, in my opinion, the first thing I can recall Miller has said wrong.

Of course it's important to fans, but it shouldn't change the way the team prepare for it. And let's be honest, why would Trifunovic, Alivodic, Leonardo, Carney and whoever the Mariners have signed this season give two shits about this game more then when they play any other club? The derby concept is a joke when the players keep changing. If both clubs can keep the same group of players for a few years, then maybe we'll see it ramp up a bit but you can't expect it to happen out of nowhere.

I don't want Miller to come out swinging. I don't want them to change what they're doing. I don't want the players to feel like they have to act differently on the pitch just because we demand it? And what, see Boogaard get so caught up in the derby and he's sent off within 20 minutes? Let the Mariners work on the pre-match banter and we'll just do the job on the pitch. The 3 points today is absolutely sweeter than anything else.

[MFKS]

Of course it's important to fans, but it shouldn't change the way the team prepare for it. And let's be honest, why would Trifunovic, Alivodic, Leonardo, Carney and whoever the Mariners have signed this season give two shits about this game more then when they play any other club? The derby concept is a joke when the players keep changing. If both clubs can keep the same group of players for a few years, then maybe we'll see it ramp up a bit but you can't expect it to happen out of nowhere.

I don't want Miller to come out swinging. I don't want them to change what they're doing. I don't want the players to feel like they have to act differently on the pitch just because we demand it? And what, see Boogaard get so caught up in the derby and he's sent off within 20 minutes? Let the Mariners work on the pre-match banter and we'll just do the job on the pitch. The 3 points today is absolutely sweeter than anything else.

Complete and utter bullshit.

If these blokes on our side don't buy into the derby they can **** right off.
If Millertime doesn't buy into the derby he can **** right off
If anyone at the club isn't buying into the derby they can **** right off

Our fans ****ing care about it and it is high time those at the club showed the same level of passion and commitment to the cause.

Winning these games V Gypos are more important to me than any other game this or any season.

If these khunts don't get that then they can **** off

I personally couldn't give two ****s about the lack of talking it up from our club this week. I think it is actually a good thing

What I do give a **** about is that when those blokes in gold walk out on the pitch today they tear in and play for their fans at the intensity we deserve and tear into the Gypo filth. That is Millertimes job today and this week to instill a level of raised commitment and passion from these ****s so they all play like Griff come 5:15 today

[WolfMan]

Publicly "bigging up" the derby has resulted in some draws over the past 3 years.

If a more controlled approach from the coaching staff and players gets us a massive 3 points over this lot, I'll gladly take it.

It's up to us to go mental, and the players to give us something to go crazy for.

3-0 Jets today. Get on it

[halo se7en]

Complete and utter bullshit.

If these blokes on our side don't buy into the derby they can **** right off.
If Millertime doesn't buy into the derby he can **** right off
If anyone at the club isn't buying into the derby they can **** right off

Our fans ****ing care about it and it is high time those at the club showed the same level of passion and commitment to the cause.

Winning these games V Gypos are more important to me than any other game this or any season.

If these khunts don't get that then they can **** off

I personally couldn't give two ****s about the lack of talking it up from our club this week. I think it is actually a good thing

What I do give a **** about is that when those blokes in gold walk out on the pitch today they tear in and play for their fans at the intensity we deserve and tear into the Gypo filth. That is Millertimes job today and this week to instill a level of raised commitment and passion from these ****s so they all play like Griff come 5:15 today

No it wasn't bullshit - it just doesn't match your opinion.

I don't care if they're fired up or not. What I care about is that they turn up switched on, play the football they're capable of, and get the 3 points.

[WolfMan]

No it wasn't bullshit - it just doesn't match your opinion.

I don't care if they're fired up or not. What I care about is that they turn up switched on, play the football they're capable of, and get the 3 points.

:thumbsup:

[stopper2]

No it wasn't bullshit - it just doesn't match your opinion.

I don't care if they're fired up or not. What I care about is that they turn up switched on, play the football they're capable of, and get the 3 points.

Well don't being "fired up" and "switched on" go hand in hand?

Go to youtube and checkout some Derbies like Everton-Liverpool, Lazio-Roma, the Milan derby or the Manchester derby and see what it means to not only the fans but more importantly the players....why should we not expect anything less from our players but to give their all?

[furns]

There is a big difference between being calm in the media and getting fired up behind closed doors, or going retard like the other mob to try to get more than 20 blokes hitch-hiking to Turton Rd.
As you dont know what is happening in the sheds maybe wait and see what eventuates on the pitch.

[Jeterpool]

Of course it's important to fans, but it shouldn't change the way the team prepare for it. And let's be honest, why would Trifunovic, Alivodic, Leonardo, Carney and whoever the Mariners have signed this season give two shits about this game more then when they play any other club? The derby concept is a joke when the players keep changing. If both clubs can keep the same group of players for a few years, then maybe we'll see it ramp up a bit but you can't expect it to happen out of nowhere.

I don't want Miller to come out swinging. I don't want them to change what they're doing. I don't want the players to feel like they have to act differently on the pitch just because we demand it? And what, see Boogaard get so caught up in the derby and he's sent off within 20 minutes? Let the Mariners work on the pre-match banter and we'll just do the job on the pitch. The 3 points today is absolutely sweeter than anything else.

I can see what you're saying and I think you're right in so much as that's the approach we are taking. What you say makes sense

[halo se7en]

Well don't being "fired up" and "switched on" go hand in hand?

Go to youtube and checkout some Derbies like Everton-Liverpool, Lazio-Roma, the Milan derby or the Manchester derby and see what it means to not only the fans but more importantly the players....why should we not expect anything less from our players but to give their all?

Not necessarily. Being fired up too much can mean losing sight of what's actually important. We might want a coastie or two to cop some hard tackles and broken ankles and see our players flying in all over the pitch, but ultimately it doesn't mean anything if we don't win the game. Being switched on means knowing exactly what they need to do to win the game and not lose concentration, like we have in our two losses this season.

And you clearly haven't watched any of the Manchester derbies from the last few years - the last one in particular was one of the most boring games I've ever watched in my life (and I'm a United fan so I'm not picking on them with bias). The derby meant nothing to the players. Why would it? None of them are from Manchester.

And at no point did I say the players shouldn't give their all. In fact they should be doing that EVERY game, not just the derbies.

[stopper2]

^^^
Okay the Manchester derby is a bad example.

I get what you are saying Halo but you are probably over-analysing what "fired up" means.

To me "fired up" means you are basically showing you care about your own pride and the pride of the club you are representing and that these scumbags will not run roughshod over.
I will never forget the '08 Grand Final, one of the first exchanges Hutch goes in hard on Griff in an overzealous challenge with probably the intent to injure him and at the very least to get one up in the psychological battle by intimidation, Tarek comes in and grabs Hutch by the throat and basically set the tone for the rest of the match with his action in defending Griff......hey today you will not get the better of us you filthy grubs!!!

That's what "fired up" means and the intent is usually set in the initial stages to make it clear to the opposition that you mean business today and will not be intimidated....then hopefully you can focus on the football and your game plan.

[hawk]

And theres the game plan.....play like griff..... you will get everything needed

[MFKS]

Not necessarily. Being fired up too much can mean losing sight of what's actually important. We might want a coastie or two to cop some hard tackles and broken ankles and see our players flying in all over the pitch, but ultimately it doesn't mean anything if we don't win the game. Being switched on means knowing exactly what they need to do to win the game and not lose concentration, like we have in our two losses this season.

And you clearly haven't watched any of the Manchester derbies from the last few years - the last one in particular was one of the most boring games I've ever watched in my life (and I'm a United fan so I'm not picking on them with bias). The derby meant nothing to the players. Why would it? None of them are from Manchester.

And at no point did I say the players shouldn't give their all. In fact they should be doing that EVERY game, not just the derbies.

Glad to see this attitude of not actually playing with fire in the belly worked well today.
Last time we won a derby we won it because we got stuck in. Zads launched at Rose.

The one with the bigger fire in the belly wins the games.

Until we get this into our heads we won't win **** all.

You have to want it more. Our blokes just don't get it and haven't got it for ****ing years

[halo se7en]

Glad to see this attitude of not actually playing with fire in the belly worked well today.
Last time we won a derby we won it because we got stuck in. Zads launched at Rose.

The one with the bigger fire in the belly wins the games.

Until we get this into our heads we won't win **** all.

You have to want it more. Our blokes just don't get it and haven't got it for ****ing years

We were less than a minute away from winning and they got lucky with a hoof into the box. Nice try.

Our problem today was too many dinky little passes around the edge of the box and not enough players willing to pull the trigger. I'm sure a few rash challenges early on would have changed that?

[halo se7en]

^^^
Okay the Manchester derby is a bad example.

I get what you are saying Halo but you are probably over-analysing what "fired up" means.

To me "fired up" means you are basically showing you care about your own pride and the pride of the club you are representing and that these scumbags will not run roughshod over.
I will never forget the '08 Grand Final, one of the first exchanges Hutch goes in hard on Griff in an overzealous challenge with probably the intent to injure him and at the very least to get one up in the psychological battle by intimidation, Tarek comes in and grabs Hutch by the throat and basically set the tone for the rest of the match with his action in defending Griff......hey today you will not get the better of us you filthy grubs!!!

That's what "fired up" means and the intent is usually set in the initial stages to make it clear to the opposition that you mean business today and will not be intimidated....then hopefully you can focus on the football and your game plan.

Yeah good point but I'd like to think they had that attitude every game.

[MFKS]

We were less than a minute away from winning and they got lucky with a hoof into the box. Nice try.

Our problem today was too many dinky little passes around the edge of the box and not enough players willing to pull the trigger. I'm sure a few rash challenges early on would have changed that?

Did we actually deserve to win??

Easy answer to that question isn't it.

They got lucky with a hoof in the box you say??

I would argue we got lucky to be in front as we deserved to be behind

[plague]

I'm sure a few rash challenges early on would have changed that?

Haha you lot obvs haven't seen Berisha play.

Bloke wants it more than anyone.
Bloke wins everything.

It's not rocket surgery innit?

[The Dunster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE

[MFKS]

Haha you lot obvs haven't seen Berisha play.

Bloke wants it more than anyone.
Bloke wins everything.

It's not rocket surgery innit?

Same shit with a bloke who used to play for us by the name of Joel Griffiths.


You are successful when you have blokes who will do anything it takes to win.

[plague]

Same shit with a bloke who used to play for us by the name of Joel Griffiths.


You are successful when you have blokes who will do anything it takes to win.

yeah was gonna use the great man as an example but feared Captain Obvious would nail me for it.

[MFKS]

yeah was gonna use the great man as an example but feared Captain Obvious would nail me for it.

I was just thinking it was a glaring oversight on your part to not use the most logical example

[hawk]

Haha you lot obvs haven't seen Berisha play.

Bloke wants it more than anyone.
Bloke wins everything.

It's not rocket surgery innit?

thats the bloke we needed when Brissy lost him. anything less is felch

[furns]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE

Kudos Dun
Lost my shit listening to that :roflz:

[De-Champ]

We were less than a minute away from winning and they got lucky with a hoof into the box. Nice try.

Our problem today was too many dinky little passes around the edge of the box and not enough players willing to pull the trigger. I'm sure a few rash challenges early on would have changed that?

Were you watching the same game as i was. I hate to say it but MFKS is bang on the money on this one.
I don't get it to be honest, a team with ten men playing away from home dominate the game.

[sammydog]

They dominated, but I saw that more of a reflection of the fact we had no one to bring into midfield. Once Leonardo went off, we had nothing in the mids.

Carney is a horrible number 10, and it also took away our options down the side once we put him there.

Yes we didn't look hungry, but I think the result and performance is down to the fact we have no midfield depth,m so with the couple of injuries we have the midfield is full of people who have no idea how to play there. thats what hurt us the most.

If Leonardo had stayed on, and carney stayed out wide, I think the result should have been very different.

[hawk]

They dominated, but I saw that more of a reflection of the fact we had no one to bring into midfield. Once Leonardo went off, we had nothing in the mids.

Carney is a horrible number 10, and it also took away our options down the side once we put him there.

Yes we didn't look hungry, but I think the result and performance is down to the fact we have no midfield depth,m so with the couple of injuries we have the midfield is full of people who have no idea how to play there. thats what hurt us the most.

If Leonardo had stayed on, and carney stayed out wide, I think the result should have been very different.

So their red card was great cause it fkd our game and probably season. how does god lets those filthy cvnts do this

[stopper2]

Haha you lot obvs haven't seen Berisha play.

Bloke wants it more than anyone.
Bloke wins everything.

It's not rocket surgery innit?

Yep, he can be a bit quiet in some games but he always steps up and delivers in big games, like the Big Blue last night.
He was like a rabid pit bull and when the game was in the balance at 3-2 he stepped up and took matters into his own hands.
That hunger to score goals and to win is insatiable to players like Berisha, losing is not an option.

[halo se7en]

Yep, he can be a bit quiet in some games but he always steps up and delivers in big games, like the Big Blue last night.
He was like a rabid pit bull and when the game was in the balance at 3-2 he stepped up and took matters into his own hands.
That hunger to score goals and to win is insatiable to players like Berisha, losing is not an option.

I totally agree with this, but I think my initial point was that players should be hungry every game. Berisha doesn't only turn it on for derbies.

[halo se7en]

They dominated, but I saw that more of a reflection of the fact we had no one to bring into midfield. Once Leonardo went off, we had nothing in the mids.

Carney is a horrible number 10, and it also took away our options down the side once we put him there.

Yes we didn't look hungry, but I think the result and performance is down to the fact we have no midfield depth,m so with the couple of injuries we have the midfield is full of people who have no idea how to play there. thats what hurt us the most.

If Leonardo had stayed on, and carney stayed out wide, I think the result should have been very different.

I agree with you Sammy. Our biggest weakness this season has been depth. As soon as we have a few injuries and we shuffle the cards, we seem to lose our gameplan. We hopeless against Sydney FC because of all the changes and the same thing happened last night when Leonardo went off. We were starting to get on top before the red card.

[halo se7en]

Did we actually deserve to win??

Easy answer to that question isn't it.

They got lucky with a hoof in the box you say??

I would argue we got lucky to be in front as we deserved to be behind

No I don't think we deserved to win, but we could have if we didn't switch off, which is what I was getting at pre-game. They keep their concentration for the full 90 minutes then they win the game. 9/10 that hoof into the box at the end of the game results in nothing. We lost focus by giving away some stupid fouls at the end and not holding the ball. Had the Mariners come out and blitzed us early a la Melbourne City then I would totally agree about not having the right mentality for a derby but that didn't happen. I felt like we started a little slow but started to get on top before the red card. Carney was causing havoc down the right, which seem to always end with playing one too many passes at the edge of the box - that seemed to be the plan though as they were practicing those in a warm up drill. Either way, Leo went off, Carney was moved central and basically we lose both Leo and Carney in one foul swoop and we had no idea how to get through them. Despite that, we still take the lead with 7 minutes to go.

[stopper2]

I totally agree with this, but I think my initial point was that players should be hungry every game. Berisha doesn't only turn it on for derbies.

He was relatively quiet against us a few weeks back.

Yes they should be hungry every game but some players like Berisha just seem to thrive on the big games with the big crowds and just find that little bit extra

[halo se7en]

He was relatively quiet against us a few weeks back.

Yes they should be hungry every game but some players like Berisha just seem to thrive on the big games with the big crowds and just find that little bit extra

Maybe we needed a bigger crowd :rof: after all, it was our lowest of the season

[stopper2]

Maybe we needed a bigger crowd :rof: after all, it was our lowest of the season

Suppose it was a little wet for the "fairweather" type supporters from both around here and Gypo territory:wink:

[Premy]

So it looks like R. Willson partner is in a spot of bother.

[belchardo]

So it looks like R. Willson partner is in a spot of bother.

who?

[Premy]

who?
John Hartigan, former News Limited CEO and Member of the SCG trust.
His rumored to be Wilson's source for the leaked documents.

[plague]

Soccer fans really need to keep clear of talkback radio trying to defend this.

They are making it even worse.

[GazFish35]

saw an interesting stat in the whole R.Wilson titfight


since the a-league started more violent criminal charges have been laid against AFL players than A-league fans - a pool of thousands vs a pool of hundreds of thousands.

[Bon]

Hasn't Alan Jones just come out comparing sokkah hooligans to the terrorism in Paris??

[plague]

saw an interesting stat in the whole R.Wilson titfight


since the a-league started more violent criminal charges have been laid against AFL players than A-league fans - a pool of thousands vs a pool of hundreds of thousands.


Man, you've all got to stop feeding this thing.
She presented facts and aimed for the low hanging fruit.

Caping up to try and somehow dispute it gets everyone away from the whole point.

[De-Champ]

On a different note the FFA is ending the policy of exclusivity in relation to Hyundai. Article in fin review stating that clubs will be able to obtain their own sponsorship, providing a few things are met.

[GazFish35]

Man, you've all got to stop feeding this thing.
She presented facts and aimed for the low hanging fruit.

Caping up to try and somehow dispute it gets everyone away from the whole point.

not feeding it. just thought it was an interesting stat.

normally id not give two ****s what she writes, but when they've publically announced and essentially demonised people - many of whom are innocent and have no right of appeal its beyond low.
If id been banned through a case of mistaken identity then had my face printed in the paper and made out to be some sort of hooligan, id be looking at legal action for sure and I hope some do.


FFA's insane rules with no right of appeal is one thing, but to make public the names and faces of innocent people and present them as hooligans is another.


people can argue she presented facts as she just announced "these people are banned" which may well be true but there's no doubt she's defamed the innocent among them.

[plague]

Out of curiosity who was it that was a victim of mistaken identity?

[q-money]

Out of curiosity who was it that was a victim of mistaken identity?

old mate who supposedly cut the foxtel cable down at the vuck, who incidentally was a minor at the time, and has since had his ban overturned

[plague]

old mate who supposedly cut the foxtel cable down at the vuck, who incidentally was a minor at the time, and has since had his ban overturned

Well now I'm confused. So there is or there isn't an avenue of appeal? How did this bloke get his overturned?

Not taking shots, just genuinely interested cause there wouldn't be a court in the land who would uphold a sentence on someone who can be proved innocent yeah?

[q-money]

no idea mate, just stating what i've heard/seen around the traps

[militiamon]

I dunno, as f-ed up as it is to release the private infos like this, I don't have much sympathy for many of them whose faces I recognise and know as grubs.

One on the list from Western Syd participated in the 20 v 2 against a member of the foz and his mate.

[GazFish35]

A guy in Brisbane was banned for lighting a flare under a pullover. No security could see they just pinned it on him.

Melbourne fans have been banned while they were out of the country.


No appeals process is a joke.

[Blackmac79]

To be honest I am glad football fans are taking some of the heat from Muslims in this whole terrorist saga.

Looking forward to battling against the "reclaim stadiums" action group, who actually are not footballphobic and really just want the best for our stadiums.

[plague]

A guy in Brisbane was banned for lighting a flare under a pullover. No security could see they just pinned it on him.

Melbourne fans have been banned while they were out of the country.


No appeals process is a joke.

So where are you hearing this? Is it an official explanation of people being banned or are you hearing it anecdotally?

[furns]

So where are you hearing this? Is it an official explanation of people being banned or are you hearing it anecdotally?
Its true, quite a few of the people on the list deserve to be there however there are definately people who are there via dubious evidence and the FFA wont listen.
I dont need to reveal my sources specifically but suffice to say that there is liaising (and has been for several years) between most of the reps of active groups in the league. We hear about these stories all the time.

We were lucky that one of our guys who was originally on the list due to a criminal charge on police evidence - which was thrown out when the police evidence was found to be "unreliable". Because the ban was for that specific reason, and he was given a judgement in writing, the FFA had to rescind the ban. We continue to thank Robbie Middleby for his help with that btw as many others in a similar situation remain on the list - and now have had their names and photos published in a national newspaper and online and generalised as "louts" and troublemakers by association.

[hawk]

To be honest I am glad football fans are taking some of the heat from Muslims in this whole terrorist saga.
.

some are one of the same. enough from you headinthesander

[GazFish35]

So where are you hearing this? Is it an official explanation of people being banned or are you hearing it anecdotally?

Consistently over many years, people have posted their banning notices online.

[hawk]

I think the majority deserve it, but at the risk of incriminating the innocent its not the go.

[Premy]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jUXhUa73n-g&feature=youtu.be

Well this opens a can of worms.
It seems that some off the names release are minors and releasing the details of minors is a criminal offense.

[plague]

I think some of you blokes may be underestimating the legal hoops and vetting process that go on in that organisation.

They've been doing these shitkhunt things for ever and very very rarely get it wrong.

[Premy]

I think some of you blokes may be underestimating the legal hoops and vetting process that go on in that organisation.

They've been doing these shitkhunt things for ever and very very rarely get it wrong.
I agree on most parts with that, however if it's true and Minors have been named then New Limited and Wilson do not have a leg to stand on.

[The Dunster]

I think some of you blokes may be underestimating the legal hoops and vetting process that go on in that organisation.

They've been doing these shitkhunt things for ever and very very rarely get it wrong.

Yup. Tapping the phones of politicians, sports people, and celebrities didn't put them [News Limited Execs] in the cooler so I doubt this will either.

Democracy at its best.:gent:

[plague]

Yup. Tapping the phones of politicians, sports people, and celebrities didn't put them [News Limited Execs] in the cooler so I doubt this will either.


Don't forget dead people, they tapped them too.

[belchardo]

North terrace and rbb to walk out during their matches this weekend.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-24/melbourne-victory-western-sydney-wanderers-fans-to-stage-protest/6970968

[belchardo]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/11/24/gallop-football-needs-to-talk-directly-to-the-fans/

And gallop tells anybody outside sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane or perth to **** off and find another sport. It's all about the derbies baby.

[plague]

North terrace and rbb to walk out during their matches this weekend.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-24/melbourne-victory-western-sydney-wanderers-fans-to-stage-protest/6970968

Oh no, how will we all get by?

[plague]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/11/24/gallop-football-needs-to-talk-directly-to-the-fans/

And gallop tells anybody outside sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane or perth to **** off and find another sport. It's all about the derbies baby.

He's got a point though. Not as if they all haven't been down this road a thousand times before.

[The Postman]

Surely tapping into the 350 odd thousand Canberrans would be better than further diluting the crowded Sydney and Melbourne fan bases from all codes.

[plague]

Surely tapping into the 350 odd thousand Canberrans would be better than further diluting the crowded Sydney and Melbourne fan bases from all codes.

putting it simply for the league to ever pay for itself it needs more eyeballs than bums on seats.
the best performed club in the league gets approx 50% of revenue from matchday tickets and they barely make a dollar averaging 27K crowds (major football/NFL teams are about 20-25%). The clubs need that TV money first then they can fund the smaller teams.

Cant find fault with Gallops comments, he's just being honest. And yeah its sucks but look at NRL it took them best part of 75 years to put a team outside a capital city (old people may correct me on that).
Now they can plop them anywhere because they have all that 'walking around' money from the TV.

A-Leagues been going for 10.

[hawk]

North terrace and rbb to walk out during their matches this weekend.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-24/melbourne-victory-western-sydney-wanderers-fans-to-stage-protest/6970968

lol, big deal... Jets fans have walked out that often that oppo fans now sing "we can see you sneaking in"....

[plague]

watched a good discussion with Rebecca Wilson last night regarding the Tele article.
She's right on way more issues than she's wrong on. The legalities of printing the list seem tight so id be shocked if anyone can challenge it.
As for the leak, it was a list provided to every stadium/club and police in every city with a team. Could have come from anywhere, it wasn't a secret.
She conceded the appeals process wasn't fair, but by screaming about the perceived 'innocents' on that list compared to the overwhelming majority of 'guilty' people on it shows that people are totally missing the point.


the point is there is a very very easy solution to all of this but the people involved won't be part of it, they continue to blame everyone else around them for their issues then sadly nothing will change.

Make no mistake, the FFA is going to win this argument.

(there was no mention of the geneva convention though).

[The Dunster]

Newcastle Rebels were one of the nine foundation clubs in 1908.
Television has killed NFL. It used to take little more than an hour to watch a game. Now it's a stop start pile of shit lasting three hours plus to satisfy the broadcasters, sponsors, and so on.
Cricket is a another prime example - limited over and 20/20 have absolutely killed the game but the revenue created by it is undenaible.
I can't comment on Football in England because I have had little if any interest in it since the EPL started.
It's all become a giant whorehouse with little if any substance.

Unfortunately, without the TV money the games pretty much dead in the water.

[lquiquer]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/simon-hill-on-weekend-reports-detailing-crowd-problems-in-a-league/story-e6frf4gl-1227621951064

Well said Simon

[plague]

Television has killed NFL. It used to take little more than an hour to watch a game. Now it's a stop start pile of shit lasting three hours plus to satisfy the broadcasters, sponsors, and so on.
Cricket is a another prime example - limited over and 20/20 have absolutely killed the game but the revenue created by it is undenaible.


Unfortunately, without the TV money the games pretty much dead in the water.

and I guess that's where the debate is.
You say these sports are 'worse' because of TV and it can also be said they are more popular which can be another way of measuring it as 'better'.

Both these things can be true.

IMHO NFL has the best business model out of all of them. They resist the change to more games that would provide easy revenue in favour of doing a better job making each game more of an event.

Of course there are still flaws but hopefully FFA doesn't look to solve all its woes by having 375 derbies every season.

[plague]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/simon-hill-on-weekend-reports-detailing-crowd-problems-in-a-league/story-e6frf4gl-1227621951064

Well said Simon

Again though, preaching to the converted.

solves nothing.

[MFKS]

North terrace and rbb to walk out during their matches this weekend.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-24/melbourne-victory-western-sydney-wanderers-fans-to-stage-protest/6970968

So as for referencing how many times these flogs have protests this season I am thinking Nth Terrace walk out it is 1 RBB walk out is 2

Even though they may be carrying on over the same issue for statistical purposes if the planned protests go ahead we get the tally to 2 and not 1

[Premy]

watched a good discussion with Rebecca Wilson last night regarding the Tele article.
She's right on way more issues than she's wrong on. The legalities of printing the list seem tight so id be shocked if anyone can challenge it.
As for the leak, it was a list provided to every stadium/club and police in every city with a team. Could have come from anywhere, it wasn't a secret.
She conceded the appeals process wasn't fair, but by screaming about the perceived 'innocents' on that list compared to the overwhelming majority of 'guilty' people on it shows that people are totally missing the point.


the point is there is a very very easy solution to all of this but the people involved won't be part of it, they continue to blame everyone else around them for their issues then sadly nothing will change.

Make no mistake, the FFA is going to win this argument.

(there was no mention of the geneva convention though).
Oh don't get me wrong I agree somewhat with Wilson, however the morality of releasing the names of people and publicly shaming them when many on that list have not been convicted of any criminal offenses and they have no avenue of appeal over there bans.

Has she made an individual assessment on all of the 198 people's cases and bans to form the opinion that the majority are guilty of being "Hooligans" and "a risk to the safety of the public" or is she once again just shooting her mouth of after hearing one side of the story?

As to how she got the list.
Whoever gave it to her be it from FFA, Police or a Stadium they have breached a confidential agreement. Those who where banned were notified that there information was released to Police and Stadium Management under a confidential agreement and that there information was to only be used for security purposes.

[plague]

however the morality of releasing the names of people and publicly shaming them when many on that list have not been convicted of any criminal offenses and they have no avenue of appeal over there bans.

Has she made an individual assessment on all of the 198 people's cases and bans to form the opinion that the majority are guilty of being "Hooligans" and "a risk to the safety of the public" or is she once again just shooting her mouth of after hearing one side of the story?

As to how she got the list.
Whoever gave it to her be it from FFA, Police or a Stadium they have breached a confidential agreement. Those who where banned were notified that there information was released to Police and Stadium Management under a confidential agreement and that there information was to only be used for security purposes.

Yeah from memory between something being 'news worthy' and 'fair use' laws regarding photos etc she seems to have her ass covered legally (I think it was noted only a court order can prevent it getting published) but that won't stop the individual facing action if it is established who leaked it. The leaker is liable not Wilson.

So unless Wilson gives up her source (nope) the leak will prob go unpunished.

As for the morality of it? Hey man I'm with you but journos and morals rarely coexist, Wilson won't be the first and won't be the last.

[militiamon]

Yeah, pretty much agree with plague on this one.

It was wrong for them to release the list, but now that it's out there are we just going to ignore what has become a real problem with the league in the past few years?

I know there are many Jets fans who don't attend Western Sydney away games for the very real fear of getting bashed. To me that just seems stupid, and I don't have any sympathy for the idiots who are now exposed for what they have created.


This is a screen from facebook of a guy who is on the list for fan violence.

http://i.imgur.com/EDndNzC.png

I witnessed with my own eyes belting into one of our own, and I'm fxxxed if I'm going protest on his behalf.

[q-money]

western sydney are their own worst enemy, bashing blokes who don't want any part of it out in the open, in your carparks next to the stadium and the like etc

your melbournes and sydneys (for the most part, bar a certain exception :rof: ) manage to keep their biffo generally contained to their groups that want a biff. might be worth a try for the goons of western sydney if they are so dead against getting "named and shamed" instead of trying to bash everyone and anyone, all of the time.

[plague]

If only those dastardly cops would stop forcing the peace loving fans to punch on.

Bastard cops.

[q-money]

i'll punch you mate

[plague]

i'll punch you mate

Hang on let me go ring one of my copper mates so he can get me all riled with his menacing stare and utility belt.

[The Dunster]

I lived in both Western Sydney and Newcastle and find this shit hilarious.

I've lost count of how many times I've seen blokes being belted for no reason in Newcastle. Or indeed of the situation where one bloke starts a fight, gets his arse kicked and then his mates come into rescue him / beat the other bloke up.

Hence, for people in Newcastle to be all high and mighty about such things is ridiculous given the pack mentality around these parts.

[Premy]

Whilst I agree with all these sentiments, there's blokes on that list that over celebrated a goal and celebrated with players that have now been tarnished as Hooligans.
As I said Wilson is right in some of what she says, but she has an agenda here and she's got no regard for the innocent people in her "facts" that have been caught in her agenda. Of course something needs to be done to stamp out the blight on the game that these f'wits have done, but we as football fans should be outraged when oxygen thieves like Wilson put the boot into our game yet continue to ignore the similar elements in the codes that the media they work for have a vested interest in.

I'm sick of mud being thrown at our game and our game being used as a pawn in all of this. Best way to deal with this shit is call them out on their hypocrisy to discredit anything they say.

[q-money]

i really don't care if someone bashes another bloke ffs, just don't bash blokes that have no interest in it, then cry about it when you get fingered by the law

do the crime, do the time

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2b/e2/06/2be20625e161deff541b75174607d36e.jpg

[plague]

that oxygen thieves like Wilson put the boot into our game yet continue to ignore the similar elements in the codes that the media they work for have a vested interest in.


Not entirely true.
She was in the thick of it during the Canterbury Bulldogs issues with both fans and players about 10 years ago.

She's actually trying to do Gallop a solid here. The sooner clubs and fans work out the quick fix the easier it will be to shut her up.

[&1gest]

nice come back here.... http://fearofaroundball.com/the-soccer-hooligan-incidents-that-the-australian-media-dont-want-you-to-know-about/

[furns]

Not entirely true.
She was in the thick of it during the Canterbury Bulldogs issues with both fans and players about 10 years ago.

She's actually trying to do Gallop a solid here. The sooner clubs and fans work out the quick fix the easier it will be to shut her up.
She is hated just as much by NRL supporters as she is by football

[GazFish35]

She shouldn't have published the list, there's too many innocents on it, too easy for people to argue with her over it.
Hand it over to an investigative journo and really throw the book at he blokes on the list who are ****wits.

I'm with Q on the WSW thing - ambush scarfers, and you can go and get ****ed.

[plague]

nice come back here.... http://fearofaroundball.com/the-soccer-hooligan-incidents-that-the-australian-media-dont-want-you-to-know-about/

Man, that dude should just have written "I'm not racist, I've got lots of black friends", it would have saved a bunch of time.

[The Dunster]

Not entirely true.
She was in the thick of it during the Canterbury Bulldogs issues with both fans and players about 10 years ago.

She's actually trying to do Gallop a solid here. The sooner clubs and fans work out the quick fix the easier it will be to shut her up.

Rugby league fans hate Rebecca Wilson. Always have and always will.
Queensland Rugby league fans and players as an example have been at war with her for many many years.

She's a skank with a typewriter who likes to stir the pot.

[plague]

She is hated just as much by NRL supporters as she is by football

Exactly my point.

[Jetmaster]

It's the lack of balance that pisses you orf...take the endless NRL feel good stories on almost every night on NBN/Nine news. Obviously trying to repair the damage the game has suffered because of their thugs, but again, it happens in other sports too and is not reported at all.

[plague]

Rugby league fans hate Rebecca Wilson. Always have and always will.
Queensland Rugby league fans and players as an example have been at war with her for many many years.

She's a skank with a typewriter who likes to stir the pot.

Exactly, which is why people saying she's doing this to carry the water for the NRL are wrong.

[sammydog]

I actually see there is two distinct issues at play here, and both sides of the argument are only looking a the one side that suits them.

The first is the privacy issue. A list created without and due process as far as appeals go, should not be published. I actually do believe the FFA should be trying to find out how this was put into the hands of Wilson. They should also be putting into place an appeals process. If they have the grounds to ban someone, it should hold up to an appeal.

But, the second issue is that there shouldn't be the need for such a huge list in the first place.

Groups like the RBB do seem to take shit with them everywhere they go, and they make up a big chunk of the banned list. The clubs should be condemning the dickheads who keep bringing flares to games or try to cause issues inside (and out) of the grounds. I'm yet to hear of anyone form the RBB, Wanderers, NT or Victory really get in and call out the dickhead element. This is what fuels people like wilson, and to an extent the game through the fans and to a lesser extent, the clubs, does stick its head in the sand when there is issues. But what do we get as a response, a walk out because of privacy issues. It really is completely missing the point on how to address people like Wilson, yet again they are just playing into her hands.

Id love, just once, to hear an active group like the RBB take look at themselves and actually admit why they have a bigger police presence than other clubs. The answer is pretty simple, and thats what Wilson has latched onto. Until the supporter groups, casual fans and clubs start actually calling out the dickhead element who light the flares and look to punch on, then Wilson and those like her will have all the ammo they need, with or without the list.

[The Postman]

Last home game witnessed a rather large group of 15 year old Newcastle wannabe ultras who may or may not have been in the Squadron verbally abuse and push a middle aged female Mariners fan over into a parked car.

Every supporter base has a dickhead element.

[The Dunster]

Last home game witnessed a rather large group of 15 year old Newcastle wannabe ultras who may or may not have been in the Squadron verbally abuse and push a middle aged female Mariners fan over into a parked car.

Every supporter base has a dickhead element.

Did anyone do or say anything to them or did they just stand there like a stale bottle of piss ?

[hawk]

Last home game witnessed a rather large group of 15 year old Newcastle wannabe ultras who may or may not have been in the Squadron verbally abuse and push a middle aged female Mariners fan over into a parked car.

Every supporter base has a dickhead element.

so did you try to diffuse it? Sure it was a female? was there child abuse? was there a burka? so many questions

[The Postman]

Unfortunately not, I was trying to get my own group away from that situation entirely back toward to the 2 man Police presence that escorted the Mariners fans from the ground.

No Burkas but there were some racist chants, if "Gypsy" even counts as a race.

[furns]

Gypo isnt racist - but pushing females no matter where they are from is not fu%king on.

[militiamon]

Unfortunately not, I was trying to get my own group away from that situation entirely back toward to the 2 man Police presence that escorted the Mariners fans from the ground.

No Burkas but there were some racist chants, if "Gypsy" even counts as a race.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people

Also what you've said is accurate and is a disgrace tbh.

[belchardo]

Death threats against wilson. How does that help the situation? Morons.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-25/ffa-demands-end-to-death-threats-directed-at-journalist-wilson/6974440

[The Postman]

I do think the whole thing could have been avoided if there were a slightly larger number of police, like I said earlier, only 2 Policeman walking dozens of Mariners fans out and as soon as these kids got out of their sight they started acting up.

We walked out the same way the week earlier with WSW fans and there wasn't a problem. The Derby mentality went a step too far that night.

[plague]

I do think the whole thing could have been avoided if there were a slightly larger number of police, like I said earlier, only 2 Policeman walking dozens of Mariners fans out and as soon as these kids got out of their sight they started acting up.

We walked out the same way the week earlier with WSW fans and there wasn't a problem. The Derby mentality went a step too far that night.

no, the whole thing could have been avoided if the group of people didn't push the lady into a parked car.

stop deflecting.

[plague]

Death threats against wilson. How does that help the situation? Morons.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-25/ffa-demands-end-to-death-threats-directed-at-journalist-wilson/6974440

best thing that could happen is once they walk out, shut the door and don't let them back in. i reckon they should never come back till they get an apology. if they mean what they say take a real stand.half a game is pissweak.

North terrace should have learned last time their petty carry on mattered nowt to the average Joe.

[The Postman]

no, the whole thing could have been avoided if the group of people didn't push the lady into a parked car.

stop deflecting.

The blame is still on the kids mate, I should have been clearer - the asshole pack of 15 year olds knew they couldn't get in any trouble because the Cops weren't in sight so they assaulted a women and walked away singing and cheering.

Newcastle is just as big as part of the problem as every other team, like we had that joker trying to enter the WSW away bay and spitting on secruity Guards a few weeks ago.

But it's not fair like some media types to paint such a broad brush over the sport, when there is maybe 10 loonatics in a crowd of 10,000. Majority of people at Jets game are families with kids who don't want any trouble and just happy to cheer when we score and boo when the other team score.

It's the loonatics who push the envelope trying to recreate Green Street Holigans that give everyone else a bad name.

[The Dunster]

Death threats against wilson. How does that help the situation? Morons.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-25/ffa-demands-end-to-death-threats-directed-at-journalist-wilson/6974440

In all fairness if she didn't shoot down that Russian plane none of this shit would have happened.:gent:

[GazFish35]

Surprised BK hasn't been blamed for all this yet.

[baldrick]

Are they going to write an article naming & shaming this dude ?

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/spectator-tips-beer-on-sydney-kings-marcus-thornton-during-illawarra-hawks-nbl-game-20151125-gl86p0.html

[GazFish35]

But baldrick he's just a good old Aussie larikin

[plague]

Are they going to write an article naming & shaming this dude ?

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/spectator-tips-beer-on-sydney-kings-marcus-thornton-during-illawarra-hawks-nbl-game-20151125-gl86p0.html

Well considering you just posted an article about it then yes I'd say that dude is gonna get a lot of unwanted attention.

Not sure what your point is here?

[plague]

But baldrick he's just a good old Aussie larikin

Where are the people calling him a larrikin?

Everyone, everywhere that I've seen has put the dude on blast.


You see his wife? That dude would take a 10 year ban in a heartbeat over what he's really about to go through.

[Frodo]

I think that whinging about her article isn't the right thing to do here. There is 100% a problem with a minority of Effwits ruining the experience of other fans.

Saying that the other codes have more problems than us is just a cop out. It doesn't change any of the problems in our own backyard, it just passes the buck and shirks responsibility.

Anyone who wants to cause problems in the name of a football club can piss right off. It doesn't help your team to be a knobhead and isn't that the whole idea of being a supporter? Someone who helps the team however they can?

If you have a problem with them releasing names and stuff then that has nothing to do with football. I agree that what they have done is wrong and if they've acted illegally then they should be punished. But people are using that to gloss over the fact that there are idiots supporting the HAL.

[plague]

Sammydog and Frodo are out here just banging nails on heads and not getting enough dap so let me give some to you both.

Well said.

[Frodo]

Sammydog and Frodo are out here just banging nails on heads and not getting enough dap so let me give some to you both.

Well said.

Plague i thought you weren't saying nice things this year?? Where's the anger gone?

[plague]

Plague i thought you weren't saying nice things this year?? Where's the anger gone?

Saving it all for our shit team, shit management, shit coach, shit players and that shit Member turning into a blubbering mess all because some mail order bride is gonna come over under the premise of love but really just wants to drug him and steal his vital organs so when he wakes up one morning in a bath of ice missing a kidney he'll have no one to blame but himself.

Miller OUT
Middleby OUT
Members kidney OUT

[hawk]

best thing that could happen is once they walk out, shut the door and don't let them back in. i reckon they should never come back till they get an apology. if they mean what they say take a real stand.half a game is pissweak.

North terrace should have learned last time their petty carry on mattered nowt to the average Joe.

Imagine if they were both playing in Melbourne and they both had a mass walkout right into each other.

[plague]

Imagine if they were both playing in Melbourne and they both had a mass walkout right into each other.

Are there any hashtags for the protests this weekend?
Id like to pretend I am doing something to help.
Much like the protest itself.

[sammydog]

This made me laugh. Why not play on the Terrorist tag. Its replayed at 2:36 with subtitles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v8fas6bx1M

Some of his TV interviews have been gold as well.

[Retro Jet]

This made me laugh. Why not play on the Terrorist tag. Its replayed at 2:36 with subtitles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v8fas6bx1M

Some of his TV interviews have been gold as well.

"my nek is itchy" :rof:

I like the random, mad sh!t in this one.
Typical of Sydney siders...just another nutter that most people walk past unperturbed, like it happens every day....because it dose lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki7ocYYRnZY

[The Dunster]

Are there any hashtags for the protests this weekend?
Id like to pretend I am doing something to help.
Much like the protest itself.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3873596560_994b906658.jpg

[baldrick]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3873596560_994b906658.jpg


Gold. Comedy gold.

[plague]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3873596560_994b906658.jpg

this is magnificent.
Griff bless you Dunster.

[plague]

Are they going to write an article naming & shaming this dude ?

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/spectator-tips-beer-on-sydney-kings-marcus-thornton-during-illawarra-hawks-nbl-game-20151125-gl86p0.html

just an update for those playing at home.
So far aside from our own national news networks and newspapers showing this blokes scumbagness, its been featured (and ridiculed) on Deadspin/Gawker media sites and several ESPN shows in the US.

So yeah, this bloke has copped way more shaming than anyone on that football list.

is everyone still feeling victimised?

[hawk]

just an update for those playing at home.
So far aside from our own national news networks and newspapers showing this blokes scumbagness, its been featured (and ridiculed) on Deadspin/Gawker media sites and several ESPN shows in the US.

So yeah, this bloke has copped way more shaming than anyone on that football list.

is everyone still feeling victimised?

bloke has almost earn the Illawarra a spot in the Aleague

[Nou Camp]

those soccer hooligans again...

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-cricket-ground-trust-on-most-violent-venues-list-20151127-gl9mh2.html

[Premy]

those soccer hooligans again...

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-cricket-ground-trust-on-most-violent-venues-list-20151127-gl9mh2.html
Nothing to see here just Larkins having a good time.

[plague]

bloke has almost earn the Illawarra a spot in the Aleague

Bhahahaha

[Nou Camp]

Nothing to see here just Larkins having a good time.

that one football incident was a terrorist attack though, striking deep at the heart of our freedoms

[plague]

Oh man people are looking really silly about this stuff now.

[baldrick]

just an update for those playing at home.
So far aside from our own national news networks and newspapers showing this blokes scumbagness, its been featured (and ridiculed) on Deadspin/Gawker media sites and several ESPN shows in the US.

So yeah, this bloke has copped way more shaming than anyone on that football list.

is everyone still feeling victimised?

The retrospectoscope is great thing.

[plague]

The retrospectoscope is great thing.

just answering the question.

anyone thinking that video wouldn't have reached the 4 corners of the earth id assume has limited knowledge of how these things work.

[plague]

those soccer hooligans again...

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-cricket-ground-trust-on-most-violent-venues-list-20151127-gl9mh2.html


I'm with you man.
if only these things were prominently featured on a national news platform like the soccer thing was.

maybe one day.

[plague]

It's the lack of balance that pisses you orf...take the endless NRL feel good stories on almost every night on NBN/Nine news. Obviously trying to repair the damage the game has suffered because of their thugs, but again, it happens in other sports too and is not reported at all.

might just leave this here for anyone interested..........
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/bulldogs-v-rabbitohs-good-friday-police-release-fan-images-in-bid-to-find-bottle-throwing-culprits/story-fni3g67w-1227306443223?sv=15811c37f50d0d524cdcae73edf728ff

[rhysd]

What's the news on milos? Sounds like Crowley might be getting a few games..

[hawk]

What's the news on milos? Sounds like Crowley might be getting a few games..

Milosh will be back when fit

[sammydog]

Milos was sitting near us last night, if the rumours of him being disgruntled are true, he certainly wasn't showing it. He was getting right into the game and didn't look at all disinterested or disenfranchised.

After seeing him last night, id believe he was injured.

[Jetmaster]

Milos was sitting near us last night, if the rumours of him being disgruntled are true, he certainly wasn't showing it. He was getting right into the game and didn't look at all disinterested or disenfranchised.

After seeing him last night, id believe he was injured.

Good to hear...hope he is back next week.

[lquiquer]

De bohun......:brrr:

[belchardo]

Joe marston has died. Vale.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/soccer/socceroos-legend-joe-marston-dead-aged-89-20151129-glaoc5.html

[Nou Camp]

weve all had a good enough look at the team now
considering we have the weakest squad in the league imo
wheres everyone expecting we will finish

[halo se7en]

Milos was sitting near us last night, if the rumours of him being disgruntled are true, he certainly wasn't showing it. He was getting right into the game and didn't look at all disinterested or disenfranchised.

After seeing him last night, id believe he was injured.

Not sure what he'd be disgruntled about anyway. There's been a few games where he could have been hooked after 60 minutes but hasn't been, and I don't think he's been dropped once?

[stopper2]

weve all had a good enough look at the team now
considering we have the weakest squad in the league imo
wheres everyone expecting we will finish

Seems that a little gap has opened up with the bottom 3 and the rest. Adelaide, Scum and Perth already a couple of wins off the pace. We are lear of them for now but the points I feel are going to get harder to come by as we have seen already in recent weeks. Still sticking by my preseason prediction of finishing between 6th and 8th. Leonardo for me is the key, Birraz has been outstanding and defensively we aren't shipping many goals but if Leonardo can start gelling with Carney and Enver and Milos we just might start banging in a few more goals

[hawk]

Not sure what he'd be disgruntled about anyway. There's been a few games where he could have been hooked after 60 minutes but hasn't been, and I don't think he's been dropped once?

Word has it he is injured and keen to get back on the park. He'll be back soon

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

weve all had a good enough look at the team now
considering we have the weakest squad in the league imo
wheres everyone expecting we will finish

8th ( above Perth and the scum)

[belchardo]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-02/besart-berisha-extends-a-league-stay-at-melbourne-victory/6994310?section=sport

berisha has re-signed with victory until end of 17/18.

bugger, thought we were in with a real chance of signing him. :gent:

[MFKS]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-02/besart-berisha-extends-a-league-stay-at-melbourne-victory/6994310?section=sport

berisha has re-signed with victory until end of 17/18.

bugger, thought we were in with a real chance of signing him. :gent:

You were thinking a tinpot club like us was actually a serious proposition for him???

I am sure playing with the likes of Cameron Watson Jason Hoffman and co must have been really hard for him to knock back

[GazFish35]

:gent:

[belchardo]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/dec/10/goalkeeper-liam-reddy-finally-released-by-central-coast-mariners

we should sign him up. :pissup:

[belchardo]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/dec/10/cairns-a-league-team-could-hinge-on-resort-and-casino-plan



Cairns A-League team could hinge on resort and casino plan
A-League (http://www.theguardian.com/football/a-league) football could yet return to Cairns on a permanent basis if the Queensland Government approves plans for an $8.15 billion integrated resort and casino in the city’s north.

Aquis, the Hong Kong company behind the proposal and the major sponsor of state league team Far North Queensland Heat, is expecting to hear back in February whether Australia’s largest tourism development will receive the green light.



If it does, Aquis is understood to be ready to help fund a purpose-built rectangular stadium in Cairns and an A-League bid.

It provides an interesting backdrop as Cairns prepares to host its first ever national league game on Saturday between Brisbane Roar and Wellington Phoenix at Cazalys Stadium.

Money for the A-League bid and the stadium would come from a community benefit fund, bankrolled by Hong Kong billionaire Tony Fung and set up to help sweeten the deal for Aquis.

Aquis became the FNQ Heat’s major sponsor in March 2014, and at the time chief executive Justin Fung publicly declared their intention to help secure Cairns an A-League team.

That commitment has not waivered, despite the approval process for the project having stalled for the last 18 months and recent issues surrounding the junior structures of the FNQ Heat, who play in the Queensland National Premier Leagues and have twice qualified for the FFA Cup.

FNQ Heat chairman Colin Daly said the “context” of the Aquis sponsorship, which expires in February, will be defined by their development approval. “We’re still very much in touch with them,” Daly told AAP.


FFA’s receptiveness to a Cairns bid is another matter. While the governing body might prefer teams in higher-density urban areas, it would be hard for them to turn away from Aquis’ riches and the opportunity for football to benefit from what is seen as a game-changing development.

Asked if, despite FFA’s clear desire for new teams in major cities, Cairns could support its own A-League team one day, Daly said: “I think it could, certainly at the NPL level and we’d like to think in time at an A-League level - and this is excluding Aquis.”

“If Aquis comes in it’s a laydown misere, they promise it all. I believe this region will become strong and will have more and more ability to do that provided we get the game right here and promote it well collectively.”

Aquis has also purchased resort and casino properties in Canberra and on the Gold Coast and followed those investments by sponsoring Super Rugby’s Brumbies and the NRL’s Titans with rich front-of-shirt deals.

It is understood A-League chief Damien de Bohun met with Aquis representatives last year during a visit to Cairns. Cairns mayor Cr Bob Manning is also pushing for a new rectangular stadium and intends to have one built by the end of his next term if he is re-elected next year.

[Jetmaster]

Yes..was talking to some guys through business about this plan six months ago. Includes an international standard airport to cater to the Asian market and phenomenal infrastructure plans.

[hawk]

North Qld monganaughts hate football.

[belchardo]

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/soccer/mariners-canberra-games-20151220-glrzk4.html

Gypos looking to sell some games to canberra.

[scarfy96]

Mullen may be back for Wanderers if not should be back for Victory

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3594445/skipper-targets-league-leaders/?cs=2439

....

And Boogaard could be reunited in the heart of the defence with Daniel Mullen.

Mullen completed his first full training session on Tuesday since arthroscopic surgery on his knee six weeks ago.

The clash against Melbourne Victory at Hunter Stadium on January 3 had been earmarked for the defender’s return. However, the 26-year-old is ahead of schedule, and with an already thin Jets defence further stretched, he could be fast-tracked.

...

Mullen’s return would allow Lachlan Jackson to move to left back and the right-sided Nick Cowburn to switch to his natural side.

[evolution]

Found this article on the FourFourTwo forums... highlighted the important parts!


Socceroo James Troisi being chased by Melbourne City, Melbourne Victory and Sydney FC ahead of transfer window

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/socceroo-james-troisi-being-chased-by-melbourne-city-melbourne-victory-and-sydney-fc-ahead-of-transfer-window/news-story/bcc6b103ce77b91c04eb57dc1eedc239
Australia's James Troisi celebrates one of his goals during the Asian Cup. Picture: Brett Costello
ASIAN Cup hero James Troisi looks set to return to the A-League in the upcoming transfer window, with a tug of war looming between three title-chasing clubs.

Sydney FC, Melbourne City and Troisi’s former club Melbourne Victory are vying for his signature with Saudi Arabian club Al-Ittihad prepared to release the attacker from his lucrative deal.

It’s understood that a change of ownership has played a part in the status of the Socceroo, who scored the extra-time winner against South Korea last January.

The same three A-League clubs were interested in pre-season before Troisi, who has been an unused substitute in recent weeks, accepted the massive Arab deal.

Former Manchester City and Celtic striker Georgios Samaras is being made available to A-League clubs and though he won’t come cheap, his Australian passport makes him attractive.

Socceroos defender Alex Wilkinson and Olyroos midfielder Steven Ugarkovic are free agents and ready-made additions to any squad.


Wilkinson, who’s been a regular under Ange Postecoglou, is exploring Asian options but would consider signing a longer-term A-League deal after a stellar stint in Asia.

Ugarkovic, who was yesterday selected in Aurelio Vidmar’s Olyroos squad for the upcoming Rio 2016 qualifiers, quit Croatian club Osijek over unpaid wages.

“He’s got a good engine, a good passer, gives everything he can. He’s a smart footballer and technically very good,’’ Vidmar said.

Fulham striker Adam Taggart, who was also picked by the Olyroos, Germany-based Kwame Yeboah and Dutch-based Adam Sarota are also seeking regular game-time and would be open to an A-League return of nothing eventuates in Europe.


Nick Kalmar remains on the market.
Former Melbourne City and Western Sydney midfielder Nick Kalmar remains on the market after a lucrative Asian deal recently fell through, while former Newcastle Jets striker Joel Griffiths is nearing a return and has a point to prove.

Another knee victim Nick Carle is still on the mend, while the likes of Massimo Murdocca, Troy Hearfield and Jonatan Germano, who’s stayed in Melbourne, are working hard and waiting patiently.

Former Brisbane Roar midfielder Luke Brattan is ineligible to play for an A-League club this season as he’s already been contracted to three clubs, hence he can only utilise an emergency loan to a fellow English club.

Brattan, who signed a four-year deal with Manchester City, is now training at Rotherham after finishing his loan with fellow Championship club Bolton.

Aside from fitting a new signing inside the salary cap, A-League clubs can sign players on a: Loan deal; guest stint or injury-replacement contract.

THE A-LEAGUE’S CHRISTMAS SHOPPING LIST

Players available ahead of the upcoming transfer window

1. James Troisi

Club: Al-Ittihad (Saudi Arabi)

Age: 27 Position: Attacker

Troisi’s club is prepared to release him and A-League clubs are queuing up to sign the electrifying attacker, who’s won 26 Socceroos caps.

2. Georgios Samaras

Club: Free agent

Age: 30 Position: Striker/Attacker

Uncontracted since leaving West Brom, the former Manchester City and Celtic striker has an Australian passport and hasn’t yet retired from Greece’s national team.

3. Alex Wilkinson

Club: Free agent

Age: 31 Position: Defender

Left Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors after three successful years at the Korean giants. The Socceroo is exploring Asian options but would consider an A-League deal.


Alex Wilkinson during a Socceroos training session. Picture: George Salpigtidis
4. Adam Taggart

Club: Fulham

Age: 22 Position: Striker

The striker has returned to Fulham after finishing his loan deal with Dundee United but is looking for another loan deal as he seeks permanent game-time.

5. Kwame Yeboah

Club: Borussia Moenchengladbach

Age: 21 Position: Attacker

The exciting attacker is not on the radar of the German club’s first team and may need a loan move to reignite his career.

6. Steven Ugarkovic

Club: Uncontracted

Age: 21 Position: Midfielder

An elegant defensive midfielder who’s just come on the market with his Croatian club Osijek owing him wages. Just picked for the Olyroos.

7. Adam Sarota

Club: FC Utrecht

Age: 26 Position: Midfielder

Banished by his Dutch club FC Utrecht but Sarota has the creativity several clubs are lacking in midfield.

8. Nick Kalmar

Club: Free agent

Age: 28 Position: Midfielder

The former Melbourne City and Western Sydney midfielder has the ability to walk into most struggling A-League clubs and make an instant impact.

9. Reinaldo

Club: Free agent

Age: 31 Position: Striker

The Brazilian-born former Brisbane Roar striker has an Australian passport and is here looking for a club after finishing his stint with Malaysians Sime Darby.

10. Joel Griffiths

Club: Free agent

Age: 36 Position: Striker

On the verge of full fitness after a knee reconstruction and despite his age, Griffiths has an eye for goal that very few possess. Could he be Australia’s Kevin Phillips?

[Retro Jet]

Found this article on the FourFourTwo forums... highlighted the important parts!


My bet is from that lot? We'll go for AW...ex Coastie....realtively old...non attacking etc.
Useless....

[Grimario]

My bet is from that lot? We'll go for AW...ex Coastie....realtively old...non attacking etc.
Useless....

Imagine if we went for attacking options and got Yeboah and Taggart on loan?

Everyone's heads would explode.

[MFKS]

Can't believe Mass Murdocca is a free agent and we sign Cameron Watson and Poljak

Third worst decision by Millertime ever

[Grimario]

Can't believe Mass Murdocca is a free agent and we sign Cameron Watson and Poljak

Third worst decision by Millertime ever

Murdocca is rubbish. Watson is also rubbish but you would hope he is much cheaper than a rubbish Murdocca.

[hawk]

My bet is from that lot? We'll go for AW...ex Coastie....realtively old...non attacking etc.
Useless....

burn the shirt if we sign that sh1tcvnt

[Premy]

What the hell did I just read from the SMH? Is this some alternative reality?

http://m.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/another-safe-week-in-the-aleague-but-cricket-fans-run-amok-at-boxing-day-test-20151228-glvvs9.html?platform=hootsuite#ixzz3vayAQRCI

[furns]

What the hell did I just read from the SMH? Is this some alternative reality?

http://m.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/another-safe-week-in-the-aleague-but-cricket-fans-run-amok-at-boxing-day-test-20151228-glvvs9.html?platform=hootsuite#ixzz3vayAQRCIWritte n by Dom Bossi - well known football journo

[GO AWAY]

Story in todays telegraph mentions Essien, Olic ( croatian striker ) , Samaris and Ronaldhino interested in a-league ... id take olic

[joel31]

Olic is excellent. Would be the best player in the A-League

[Tommyjet]

Need speed

[stopper2]

Olic is excellent. Would be the best player in the A-League

Olic is now 36, always a risk once a player is well over 30 years old (as we've seen with Leonardo) but he has always been a physical type player being descibed as a player who "possesses power and a decent bit of pace". Having played many years in the fairly physical Bundesliga he would probably slot in to the A League fairly comfortably. Has a good goal to game ratio too in his over 600 game career, scoring at just under a goal every 3 games.
Few years older than the donkey we currently have up front but reckon he would be more effective.....but lets face it, it's just not going to happen under the current status quo.

[plague]

Does anyone know if the RBB and North Terrace will be staging any walkouts in solidarity with Russell Crowe?
Human rights violations and all that.

[Couscous]

I know that, among Victory supporters, planning is under way for a mass hover-out.

[Grimario]

Maybe you should get all your joke material together and have a massive hoover out.

[Premy]

Written by Dom Bossi - well known football journo

It still got printed.

[stopper2]

In todays Herald....

PFA say no current Jets players are out of pocket.
By ROBERT DILLON and AAP

PROFESSIONAL Footballers Australia has dismissed concerns that current Newcastle Jets players are affected by the overdue-payments saga that involves four A-League clubs.

Earlier in the month, Fairfax Media reported Adelaide, Brisbane, Central Coast and Newcastle had until the end of 2015 to catch up on a host of outstanding financial entitlements to players.

But PFA, the players’ union, clarified on Wednesday that Newcastle’s issues related to ex-players and the club’s former owners, Con Constantine and Nathan Tinkler.

It is understood the players sacked almost 12 months ago by Tinkler, including Joel Griffiths, Billy Celeski and Adrian Madaschi, are still waiting for unpaid superannuation. They have been assured by Football Federation Australia any arrears will be honoured once the Newcastle franchise, which has been in the hands of the governing body for the past seven months, has been sold.

“PFA can confirm that all oustanding obligations are up to date for current players at the Newcastle Jets,’’ a PFA spokesman said. “Any debts accrued by the previous owners to former players are currently being worked through with FFA in an ongoing process.’’

While the issue will not impact on the Jets, if any clubs are proven to have not honoured their commitments, their players could declare themselves free agents. Clubs would also risk losing competition points, according to the terms of the new collective-bargaining agreement negotiated between FFA and PFA.

Meanwhile, Central Coast wingers Fabio Ferreira and Mitch Austin will almost certainly start against Wellington on New Year's Eve, as the Mariners attempt to turn around their miserable run of A-League losses.

Portuguese X-factor Ferreira has been making a gradual return from the bench the past two matches, following a lengthy injury lay-off.
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Austin, who has earned his own plaudits for his flying runs down the left flank, sat out last Saturday's 4-1 thumping by Sydney FC with a virus.

But coach Tony Walmsley backed both to return at Central Coast Stadium on Thursday night.

"There's no doubt we're at our best with Fab Ferreira and Mitch Austin on the wings," Walmsley said.

"Both are fit and available, and I can confidently say both will probably start the game. Fab's not going to last 90 minutes, but we'll make sure we've got people on the bench that can come in and do a job."

Young back-up goalkeeper Tom Heward-Belle will make his A-League starting debut in place of suspended Paul Izzo, who was given his marching orders in the first half against Sydney.

Skipper Nick Montgomery backed Heward-Belle's form, but said the 18-year-old did not need encouragement.

"There's no pressure on Tommy and he's not nervous. He's a confident guy and I think everyone will enjoy watching him tomorrow night," Montgomery said.

"The boys will rally around him, but to be honest he's pretty cool. He's a pretty laid-back character, but you can see in his eyes he's focused and desperate to take his opportunity.’’

After a club-record six consecutive losses and only five points from the opening 12 rounds, Central Coast will need a drastic turnaround to avoid the wooden spoon.

So likes of Griff, Celeski and Madaschi are yet to have their Super paid....nearly 12 months after being sacked by Tinks.
Meanwhile FFA have been in control for 7 months now and are treating any outstanding debts to previous players as "Ongoing".
Wouldn't it be better for all concerned to just clear any outstanding Super payments to players and not have this hanging around for the next owner to deal with??? Every year my opinion of FFA as the governing body of the game just gets lower and lower!

[De-Champ]

In todays Herald....

PFA say no current Jets players are out of pocket.
By ROBERT DILLON and AAP

PROFESSIONAL Footballers Australia has dismissed concerns that current Newcastle Jets players are affected by the overdue-payments saga that involves four A-League clubs.

Earlier in the month, Fairfax Media reported Adelaide, Brisbane, Central Coast and Newcastle had until the end of 2015 to catch up on a host of outstanding financial entitlements to players.

But PFA, the players’ union, clarified on Wednesday that Newcastle’s issues related to ex-players and the club’s former owners, Con Constantine and Nathan Tinkler.

It is understood the players sacked almost 12 months ago by Tinkler, including Joel Griffiths, Billy Celeski and Adrian Madaschi, are still waiting for unpaid superannuation. They have been assured by Football Federation Australia any arrears will be honoured once the Newcastle franchise, which has been in the hands of the governing body for the past seven months, has been sold.

“PFA can confirm that all oustanding obligations are up to date for current players at the Newcastle Jets,’’ a PFA spokesman said. “Any debts accrued by the previous owners to former players are currently being worked through with FFA in an ongoing process.’’

While the issue will not impact on the Jets, if any clubs are proven to have not honoured their commitments, their players could declare themselves free agents. Clubs would also risk losing competition points, according to the terms of the new collective-bargaining agreement negotiated between FFA and PFA.

Meanwhile, Central Coast wingers Fabio Ferreira and Mitch Austin will almost certainly start against Wellington on New Year's Eve, as the Mariners attempt to turn around their miserable run of A-League losses.

Portuguese X-factor Ferreira has been making a gradual return from the bench the past two matches, following a lengthy injury lay-off.
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Austin, who has earned his own plaudits for his flying runs down the left flank, sat out last Saturday's 4-1 thumping by Sydney FC with a virus.

But coach Tony Walmsley backed both to return at Central Coast Stadium on Thursday night.

"There's no doubt we're at our best with Fab Ferreira and Mitch Austin on the wings," Walmsley said.

"Both are fit and available, and I can confidently say both will probably start the game. Fab's not going to last 90 minutes, but we'll make sure we've got people on the bench that can come in and do a job."

Young back-up goalkeeper Tom Heward-Belle will make his A-League starting debut in place of suspended Paul Izzo, who was given his marching orders in the first half against Sydney.

Skipper Nick Montgomery backed Heward-Belle's form, but said the 18-year-old did not need encouragement.

"There's no pressure on Tommy and he's not nervous. He's a confident guy and I think everyone will enjoy watching him tomorrow night," Montgomery said.

"The boys will rally around him, but to be honest he's pretty cool. He's a pretty laid-back character, but you can see in his eyes he's focused and desperate to take his opportunity.’’

After a club-record six consecutive losses and only five points from the opening 12 rounds, Central Coast will need a drastic turnaround to avoid the wooden spoon.

So likes of Griff, Celeski and Madaschi are yet to have their Super paid....nearly 12 months after being sacked by Tinks.
Meanwhile FFA have been in control for 7 months now and are treating any outstanding debts to previous players as "Ongoing".
Wouldn't it be better for all concerned to just clear any outstanding Super payments to players and not have this hanging around for the next owner to deal with??? Every year my opinion of FFA as the governing body of the game just gets lower and lower!

Why would the FFA want to pay someone else's debt?

[The Dunster]

Story in todays telegraph mentions Essien, Olic ( croatian striker ) , Samaris and Ronaldhino interested in a-league ... id take olic

My missus will lose her mind if Ronaldhino comes to the A-league. She will dump the jets and follow who ever he's playing for without exception.

[furns]

So likes of Griff, Celeski and Madaschi are yet to have their Super paid....nearly 12 months after being sacked by Tinks.
Meanwhile FFA have been in control for 7 months now and are treating any outstanding debts to previous players as "Ongoing".
Wouldn't it be better for all concerned to just clear any outstanding Super payments to players and not have this hanging around for the next owner to deal with??? Every year my opinion of FFA as the governing body of the game just gets lower and lower!It says it in the article - when the club is sold, the FFA will use the funds from that to clear the outstanding debts to the players. This wasnt an issue when the FFA were negotiating with Thompson, however now that those talks have broken down I daresay they will wait to see what happens with the UBS option. If a buyer comes in, all well and good. If not, then I would say that the FFA will clear the debts themselves so that the process doesnt drag on any longer.

[MFKS]

Why would the FFA want to pay someone else's debt?

When the FFA gives the clubs the money for paying the players anyway you could argue they could control the entire situation for all player payments wages super entitlements etc.

They could cut the middle man out and pay the players themselves

By passing the money into the clubs to do it the problem is one they could avoid


Secondly they gave the fat **** control of the Jets.
They brought the shitfest upon themselves.Clean up the mess pay the players and stop ****ing around

[plague]

This all started when the double-eff-aye knifed Con.
Bloke treated his players like royalty.
They were like his children.

Suits are getting what they deserve.

**** em all

[lquiquer]

This all started when the double-eff-aye knifed Con.
Bloke treated his players like royalty.
They were like his children.

Suits are getting what they deserve.

**** em all

Shame he didn't treat fans like his players!!.... a couple of crackers and cheese at united club and that's it.....after that he'd rather throw fans off the AJ stand loge......:grin: