Daily Australian News Thread 2015

[MFKS]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league-newcastle-jets-owner-nathank-tinkler-backs-under-fire-coach-phil-stubbins/story-e6frf423-1227294739369

Finally got the fat controllers attention

[The Postman]

So Tinkler is blaming the players and the fact that we can't afford a Marquee....

Regardless of whether we have a Marquee or not, we have 23 spots that technically we can afford, even if Tinkler doesn't pay them on time with the FFA's money.

There is no excuse for not being able to preform with the squad that was assembled at the start of the season.

Look at all the guys that have left, all found teams willing to sign them right away, so their quality isn't an issue.

Comes down to one man - Mr Muppet.

Love being a Jets fan

[Tommyjet]

Sounds like he wants dino kresinger

[sammydog]

I think we are more likely to get Mario Jardel.

[lquiquer]

So Tinkler is blaming the players and the fact that we can't afford a Marquee....

Regardless of whether we have a Marquee or not, we have 23 spots that technically we can afford, even if Tinkler doesn't pay them on time with the FFA's money.

There is no excuse for not being able to preform with the squad that was assembled at the start of the season.

Look at all the guys that have left, all found teams willing to sign them right away, so their quality isn't an issue.

Comes down to one man - Mr Muppet.

Love being a Jets fan

You are dead set right there Mr Postman....... Muppet signed 9 players, they (Tink and Mr 2 from 25) always denied it was the Muppet's team and from the start there was no money for a Marquee. We all put $$$$ to watch the "Muppet Show" and we are now expected to dig in again, renew because next year they will get it right!!!!!! F&^%$#@g B&^^%$#t...........

[The Dunster]

Any owner that cannot afford a marquee in this league should hand back the licence.

[GazFish35]

Those quotes from tinkler are a concern.

He's no idea the impact a manager has in football.

In wife beater ball it's 13 playing 13 in the same formation with interchange, thus reducing the impact on game day a manager/coach has.

"We need to be in the market for the right people" again demonstrates an lack of understanding of the code, the right players won't come here because unlike wifebeater ball the right people have more than a handful o clubs to go to.

[Tommyjet]

So he says a marquee striker is a priority. Who actually believes it will materialise? Where will the money come from?

But serious aside, who we gonna get? A big name long in the tooth or a Berisha type?

Anyone got any names they think would be suitable if it were to materialise?

[lquiquer]

On foxsport few months ago possibly Rudan or Bozza or possibly Kosy said:
A couple of games before Aloisi got sacked by Heart and after another loss at home, Aloisi walked up to Yarra side behind the goal posts and talked to the fans for about 15 minutes.....few handshakes later he earned their respect, got the sack at the end but earned their respect.
Our Muppet can only walk in the tunnel smiling at us...... .....F&^k I hate him

[Premy]

So he says a marquee striker is a priority. Who actually believes it will materialise? Where will the money come from?

But serious aside, who we gonna get? A big name long in the tooth or a Berisha type?

Anyone got any names they think would be suitable if it were to materialise?Richard Porta

[lquiquer]

Those quotes from tinkler are a concern.

He's no idea the impact a manager has in football.

In wife beater ball it's 13 playing 13 in the same formation with interchange, thus reducing the impact on game day a manager/coach has.

"We need to be in the market for the right people" again demonstrates an lack of understanding of the code, the right players won't come here because unlike wifebeater ball the right people have more than a handful o clubs to go to.

Tinkler is for sure the main concern....Stubbins goes and Fat Controller will find another Muppet

[MFKS]

Those quotes from tinkler are a concern.

He's no idea the impact a manager has in football.

In wife beater ball it's 13 playing 13 in the same formation with interchange, thus reducing the impact on game day a manager/coach has.

"We need to be in the market for the right people" again demonstrates an lack of understanding of the code, the right players won't come here because unlike wifebeater ball the right people have more than a handful o clubs to go to.


Its more delusion.

The bloke has achieved nothing running sporting teams. The best he got was the Knights limped into the semis at the bottom half turned up and rolled two teams and got close to the GF but at the end of the day were never Genuine contenders.

What makes him think he is gonna magically turn it around in 6 months when he has no track record of success?? What makes him think he is gonna turn it around when he has no stability and the only stability he has provided is not sacking the Muppet??

What also makes him think that a bloke who is 2 from 24 is all of a sudden gonna turn it around with a better set of players??

Delusion Delusion Delusion

[GazFish35]

Someone who knows more about rugby league needs to explain our season in rugby league terms and send it to tinks

[leftrightout]

So he says a marquee striker is a priority. Who actually believes it will materialise? Where will the money come from?

But serious aside, who we gonna get? A big name long in the tooth or a Berisha type?

Anyone got any names they think would be suitable if it were to materialise?

I still think Khalfallah should be our marquee target, sign high quality striker in the cap (hahaha yeah right, because that will happen!)

[Premy]

So Stubbins is here at the beginning of the next season, he loses the first 5 games.
Then What???

[Jeterpool]

So Stubbins is here at the beginning of the next season, he loses the first 5 games.
Then What???

We go back to the rebuilding phase which we haven't left since season 4

[GazFish35]

So Stubbins is here at the beginning of the next season, he loses the first 5 games.
Then What???

The next bloke gets the "not my squad" excuse handed to him on a silver platter.

[lquiquer]

The next bloke gets the "not my squad" excuse handed to him on a silver platter.

Yep comes back to what I said before:Tinkler is for sure the main concern....Stubbins goes and Fat Controller will find another Muppet

[goaliepersempre]

We go back to the rebuilding phase which we haven't left since season 4


The never ending Newcastle Devils Circle!!!!

[redwah]

Its more delusion.

The bloke has achieved nothing running sporting teams. The best he got was the Knights limped into the semis at the bottom half turned up and rolled two teams and got close to the GF but at the end of the day were never Genuine contenders.

What makes him think he is gonna magically turn it around in 6 months when he has no track record of success?? What makes him think he is gonna turn it around when he has no stability and the only stability he has provided is not sacking the Muppet??

What also makes him think that a bloke who is 2 from 24 is all of a sudden gonna turn it around with a better set of players??

Delusion Delusion Delusion

Almost totally agree with you on this one, except it should be Arrogance, Arrogance, Arrogance at the end of your post.

The big problem I see is the fact that the muppet is signing up all the yes men in his current squad, a squad that is what 1 in 12ish since the shit hit the fan. The playing group,as a whole just isn't up to the standard needed. How many of our players would get a start at a competitive a league club? Never mind if any would even make a squad. Simple fact is the muppet isn't going to change anything next year and the fat controller has backed himself into a corner with regards to sacking him. When he goes this bad again next season what will be the excuses?

[LiverJet]

Just listened to kofm with murphy worth a listen
http://www.kofm.com.au/shows/rush-hour-david-collins/podcasts/newcastle-jets-ceo-mitchell-murphy-faces-the-music-on-the-clubs-worst-season-in-history/

[Jeterpool]

Just listened to kofm with murphy worth a listen
http://www.kofm.com.au/shows/rush-hour-david-collins/podcasts/newcastle-jets-ceo-mitchell-murphy-faces-the-music-on-the-clubs-worst-season-in-history/

Key points?

[Tommyjet]

Just listened to kofm with murphy worth a listen
http://www.kofm.com.au/shows/rush-hour-david-collins/podcasts/newcastle-jets-ceo-mitchell-murphy-faces-the-music-on-the-clubs-worst-season-in-history/

That was quite amusing

[LiverJet]

Key points?

Collins giving murphy a mouthful asking how we can keep a coach with 2 in 24 record

[Jeterpool]

Just had a listen. Murphy wasn't impressed but Collins held his ground and line of questioning.

"Supposed fans" was something I think Murphy was going to come back to but never did. If he'd had a go at the fans I was gone.

There is a lot of anger surrounding this club at the moment and the fans, players and coaching staff, I feel, are 3 distinctly separate groups at the moment. A successful club needs all 3 on board and moving in the same, forward, direction.

[LiverJet]

Think the only question he missed was how are you going to attract members to resign next year with the same coach

[MFKS]

Just had a listen. Murphy wasn't impressed but Collins held his ground and line of questioning.

"Supposed fans" was something I think Murphy was going to come back to but never did. If he'd had a go at the fans I was gone.

There is a lot of anger surrounding this club at the moment and the fans, players and coaching staff, I feel, are 3 distinctly separate groups at the moment. A successful club needs all 3 on board and moving in the same, forward, direction.

We have only 1 thing going for us fans support the players. That's it

The players don't support the fans though. Their is no bond

As for the Muppet Universally hated and he hates the Universe equally

[MFKS]

Supposed fans. These ****s calling me plastic again:rof:

[380]

Murphy out of his depth just like Mr 2 from 24.

When the going got tough with the line of questioning Murphy quickly went from " we " and " us " to " was not here David ".

I thought Stubbins made himself appear more of a goose each and every time he speaks to the media but Murphy is giving him a real run for his money.

Only at this club could we have a Rookie CEO of a HAL club and a Muppet impersonating as a rookie head coach.

[MFKS]

We also seem to have a rookie owner as well

[lquiquer]

There is a lot of anger surrounding this club at the moment and the fans, players and coaching staff, I feel, are 3 distinctly separate groups at the moment. A successful club needs all 3 on board and moving in the same, forward, direction.

Interesting quote.....but after all I think there are 3.5 groups here: 1. Fans hate Muppet...... 2. Muppet hates Fans....... 0.5. Some players hate Muppet..... 3. players like fans.........

[Hunter403]

Also wish Collins had asked about Carney:soapbox:

[MFKS]

COACH MUPPET declared the Jets’ plan is to recruit international and Australian marquees next season and they will spend the entire $2.55million salary cap to lift themselves out of the A-League cellar.

Two victories in 24 games has left the Jets at the bottom of the ladder with three games remaining.

The Jets have been reduced to a threadbare squad since MUPPET oversaw a clean-out of five senior players and four support staff in January.

On Friday night the Jets face competition leaders Melbourne Victory at AAMI Park in a mismatch in quality and experience.

In recent months MUPPET, who is increasingly under pressure from disillusioned supporters particularly one bloke, has promised all attempts would be made to turn the club into a force next season.

On Thursday, the embattled MUPPET said Jets owner Nathan Tinkler had agreed to provide him with the finances needed to put together a winning squad.

‘‘We’ll definitely be going for a marquee, possibly two if we can get hold of the right one, who is Australian as well,’’ MUPPET said.

‘‘We’ll be filling the roster and maxing out the salary cap.

‘‘We need to do it in a way that we’re effectively spending our money and putting a squad and team together again that can play possession-based football, can press when it needs to, can score when it needs to score and can also be defensively strong.’’

The Jets have not employed a marquee player, whose wages are outside the salary cap, since former English Premier League striker Emile Heskey completed his two-year stint last season.

Winger Ryan Griffiths was the last Australian marquee in 2012-13.

Tinkler’s stressed financial position has been well documented, including a garnishee order that allows the Australian Tax Office to intercept the monthly grant the club receives from FFA.

This has resulted in players and staff being paid late in the past two monthly wage cycles.

MUPPET said finding a midfielder or striker would be the focus of his marquee recruitment.

‘‘We’ve got Ki-je Lee and Nigel Boogaard signed and Daniel Mullen is another that’s been documented as close to being over the line,’’ MUPPET said.

‘‘We’ve got enough covering at the back and obviously the midfield and going forward with some cutting edge, that’s what we need to look at.

‘‘We need to be a team that is able to score goals and get on the front foot, not only being strong defensively, but able to score goals as well.’’

Scoring goals has been a major problem all season.

The Jets have been kept scoreless in their past two games and have struck only twice in their last six A-League matches.

Their 18 goals from 24 games is the worst strike rate in the competition and four fewer than the next club, Central Coast.

At the other end, they have conceded a league-high 49 goals. On Friday night they face the league’s most potent attacking unit.

The Victory have netted 50 goals and boast a triple threat up front in Besart Berisha (11 goals), Archie Thompson (nine) and Gui Finkler (seven).

‘‘We’ve got everything to prove, and to ourselves, that we have the intent in the group to try our very best and win the game,’’ MUPPET said.

‘‘We’re not going to go there fearful of what they’ve got.’’

The Jets will be light on experience for the Victorian trip.

Senior midfielders Zenon Caravella (ankle strain) and Ben Kantarovski (groin) are ruled out with injuries and will be replaced by Allan Welsh and Jacob Pepper.

There were initial fears Caravella may miss the remaining two games, but after visiting sports doctor Neil Halpin on Thursday afternoon, he is now expected to return to training on Monday.

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All the money in the world to be wasted to turn us around yet the simplest solution is to pay the MUPPET out his 200k and move forward without him and with a competent Manager

[Jeterpool]

and they will spend the entire $2.55million salary cap to lift themselves out of the A-League cellar.

What about this!??! We aren't already!!!

I know the current crop don't deserve it because it inflates their true worth but FMD, why aren't we using all the money the FFA give us!!!!???

[MFKS]

What about this!??! We aren't already!!!

I know the current crop don't deserve it because it inflates their true worth but FMD, why aren't we using all the money the FFA give us!!!!???

See the sad thing is even if we max out our salary cap and turn things around on the park and are flying (BIG IFS I KNOW) the competence levels at this club are such we will be getting done for salary cap breaches anyway as you know they will most likely **** their sums up and not carry the 2 or some shit like that and find we are 3 million over a 2.55million salary cap

[pv4]

Robbie Middleby promised me that Ryan Griffiths was not ever the Australian marquee, on one of those online fan forum things they did. Either he lied to me, or the article is mislead. Not that this affects anything, but just thought I'd point out that according to the club, we have not had an Australian marquee since our attempt to have Jason Culina as it.

[joel31]

Did everyone notice Murphy saying dominating possession last 2 games is a positive?
Aint got no idea about football

[parksey]

There is literally no reason at for us to not spend the entire cap on players, seeing as the FFA give us that money on a platter every year.

[Jeterpool]

There is literally no reason at for us to not spend the entire cap on players, seeing as the FFA give us that money on a platter every year.

This

[BodyNovo]

the tax office will be even further stoked knowing that part of the grant wasn't even going to the players.

[MFKS]

the tax office will be even further stoked knowing that part of the grant wasn't even going to the players.
Maybe the FFA Should be looking into this.

If they are giving them 2.55 million a year and we ain't paying our limit where is the money going???

I am pretty certain they will not be impressed if money is not going into paying players or at failing that into the cost of football club operations.

Few questions there that need answering

[BodyNovo]

Maybe the FFA Should be looking into this.

If they are giving them 2.55 million a year and we ain't paying our limit where is the money going???

I am pretty certain they will not be impressed if money is not going into paying players or at failing that into the cost of football club operations.

Few questions there that need answering

straight into the ATO's bank account isn't it.

[MFKS]

straight into the ATO's bank account isn't it.

Yeah whilst the garnishee order is in effect

But if the FFA is giving them 2.55 million and we are only spending say 2.3million on players where is the other money going?? Just remember the Garnishee order hasn't been in effect for the rest of the season bar 2 months

I can't imagine FFA would be happy $250000 is going walkabout and not to its intended cause

[BodyNovo]

with the amount of debts the club has, i daresay its intended cause is plugging those gaps.

whether the FFA thinks that iss how it should be spent is another question.

[pv4]

I've said it a few times but I'm led to believe if we don't use the whole cap, we don't receive the leftover money from the FFA. They just pay us whatever we used.

AFAIK apart from room to re-negotiate with players to improved contracts and the like, there's no disadvantage to using the full cap - but no advantage to not using it.

[MFKS]

with the amount of debts the club has, i daresay its intended cause is plugging those gaps.

whether the FFA thinks that iss how it should be spent is another question.

Not so much the FFA but the PFA
I would imagine they would not be happy if the deal negotiated in relation to money for the players is being skimmed off the top

[furns]

Not so much the FFA but the PFA
I would imagine they would not be happy if the deal negotiated in relation to money for the players is being skimmed off the top

As pv4 said above your post, it doesn't work like that

[The Dunster]

I've said it a few times but I'm led to believe if we don't use the whole cap, we don't receive the leftover money from the FFA. They just pay us whatever we used.

Whatever the Jets don't spend is probably given to Sydney FC to fund their marquee wages.:gent:

[pv4]

Whatever the Jets don't spend is probably given to Sydney FC to fund their marquee wages.:gent:

On a serious note, most clubs get financial aid from the FFA for their marquees.

[lquiquer]

@FFA: .@FFA will make an announcement in relation to @PerthGloryFC at 3pm AEST TODAY.

Even if they deduct 30 points we still last... :lol:

[MFKS]

What bet they get stripped of all points and Stubbins pops open champagne corks at 3:01 pm??

[Jeterpool]

What bet they get stripped of all points and Stubbins pops open champagne corks at 3:01 pm??

The wooden spoon would then just be another thing Phil couldn't win.

[q-money]

:rof:

[furns]

They wont deduct that many points, there will be an outcry if they get deducted a massive amount of competition points when SFC only had a 3 point deduction back in 06

[pv4]

I'll be surprised if they don't deduct at least 30 points. My bet is 30, 40, or all.

[lil_masi]

I'll be surprised if they don't deduct at least 30 points. My bet is 30, 40, or all.

Even with 10, which is quite a bit, they'll still be in 5th.

[pv4]

It's David Gallop at the FFA nowadays. He loves a season-ruining points scrape.

30 or 40 points are nice round numbers, which will put them at-best equal last with us.

[Jetmaster]

David Gallop will show little mercy.....


In mid-2002, the Bulldogs were found guilty of serious and systemic breaches of the salary cap. NRL Chief Executive David Gallop described the violation as "exceptional in both its size and its deliberate and ongoing nature". The club received the maximum fine of $500,000, and was stripped of all 37 competition points.[2] The latter action was particularly harmful, as the club were poised to take the Minor Premiership and had won 17 consecutive matches (the second highest in Australian club rugby league history at the time); the penalty meant that the club would win the wooden spoon. Fans of the club had gone from the joy of a last-minute win over Newcastle just two weeks prior to the pain, anguish and realisation that the club would not be participating in the 2002 finals.

Could be interesting.

[pv4]

David Gallop will show little mercy.....



Could be interesting.

He was apparently cold to the Storm aswell, and even accidentally referred to their supporters as terrorists. I think he got boo'd when he went to Melbourne for the Liverpool game too, from extremely faint memory. They hate him down there.

He's very cut and dry, seemingly. Gus Gould tried to have a wankfest about the Storm and Gallop didn't buy it at all:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz5TEw9-jrI

[lquiquer]

Bugger we can't finish 7

[Jeterpool]

what was the result?

[MFKS]

400k over Salary Cap over this season

Deliberate Failure to disclose payments persistently

269k fine

[Mark325]

what was the result?

Seems that come the end of the season they will be dropped to seventh place

[MFKS]

No Finals for them though

They will finish 7th records won't be altered

[weston]

Looks like Stubbins will get his reward he has been striving for all season. We're getting another spoon.

[MFKS]

I would like to point out the contrast of the swift brutal action taken by the FFA in dealing with Perth cheating the Salary Cap and contrast that with the inaction and lack of interest they have shown in dealing with the fat prick in Singapore

[weston]

I would like to point out the contrast of the swift brutal action taken by the FFA in dealing with Perth cheating the Salary Cap and contrast that with the inaction and lack of interest they have shown in dealing with the fat prick in Singapore


FFA hates Newcastle and wants us to suffer?

Hence why they kept Tinks, hence why Perth are finishing seventh.

[Mark325]

So this now actually gives Coast the smallest of chances to make the top 6

[furns]

Credit to Gaz Fish for posting this pile of shit on twitter
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/vicious-fan-attacks-on-newcastle-jets-coach-phil-stubbins-are-pathetic-20150410-1mhvoo.html

[parksey]

Credit to Gaz Fish for posting this pile of shit on twitter
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/vicious-fan-attacks-on-newcastle-jets-coach-phil-stubbins-are-pathetic-20150410-1mhvoo.html

That is admirable but so wrong

[MFKS]

Credit to Gaz Fish for posting this pile of shit on twitter
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/vicious-fan-attacks-on-newcastle-jets-coach-phil-stubbins-are-pathetic-20150410-1mhvoo.html

So the bloke just assumes I was referring to Stubbins?? Maybe I was referring to Tinkler???

As for his criticism I will point out that Muppet has never once faced the fans or taken any responsibility for anything that has befallen us this season.
We have been treated as fools by this bloke all season long whilst he has lurched from one disaster to another with his incompetence

So far we are nearly at double figures on players leaving the club down to falling out with the coach. The same players have been bullied into submission by the Manager.

Cawk thinks it is vicious and pathetic then I will point out he is only being bullied back by people who are standing up to him for treating others like crape with his arrogance and huge ego out of control.

What goes around comes around and we owe him nothing. !

He ain't hitting above the belt either and he brought this shitstorm upon himself

[380]

5 too many letters in Cockerill

[late_to_the_game]

Can you imagine him writing that article if the Smurfs were 3-25 and the fans were pissed off?

[furns]

He did - when the Cove protested against Farina
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/slippery-slope-when-football-fans-support-turns-to-activism-20140307-34bes.html

[q-money]

So why is it OK for one nutter to ruin a club ie stubbins, but not another mental, in say your member, to call him up for it?

The battle of the lone wolves, forever alone

[hawk]

cockinmoutherill, forever delusional

[baldrick]

THE Newcastle Herald’s ‘‘Team of the Decade’’ competition is a poignant reminder how quickly the Newcastle Jets have descended from bad to worse.

Sporting Declaration has had no input into the selection of the hypothetical 15-man squad, but at a wild guess I would be extremely surprised if any incumbent Newcastle player made the cut.

I suppose a case could be argued for Ben Kantarovski, but other than the home-grown midfielder and former Young Socceroos captain, it is hard to imagine many of his 2014-15 teammates featuring prominently in discussions.

And I say that with no disrespect intended to this season’s players, who have battled bravely in almost-intolerable circumstances.

Yet only 12 months ago, Newcastle’s team sheet featured at least four players who would appear walk-up certainties in any all-time Jets selection – Joel Griffiths, Adam Taggart, Ruben Zadkovich and Emile Heskey.

The merits of Josh Brillante and Michael Bridges would presumably ensure they were also prominent candidates.

All six are now long gone. One has retired, three are plying their trade overseas and two have joined rival A-League clubs, having been discarded while still under contract.

In their place, bit-part players and rookies have been forced to assume the status of A-League regulars, and the results have been predictable.

With three rounds to go in the season, the Jets were last on the ladder, and on statistics alone it would appear illogical to deny they deserve the wooden spoon.


In their first 24 games (not including Friday night’s away game against Melbourne Victory), they had scored 18 goals, fewer than any rival team, and had the worst defensive record after conceding 49 times.

Along the way they suffered a club-record 7-0 hammering, conceded five goals in another game, four goals twice and been kept scoreless in their past four home fixtures.

In any league in the world, such numbers would point to sustained mediocrity.

That the Jets had won two games and were still a slim chance of finishing above last was something of a minor miracle.

But those two wins have to be considered in context. The first came against a leg-weary Adelaide team backing up after a midweek Football Federation Australia Cup final, the second against an unrecognisable Western Sydney outfit who had barely returned from a long-haul trip abroad for the Asian Champions League.

Other than that, it has been a largely joyless campaign for those long-suffering fans who have not already lost interest.

Inevitably, frustrations boiled over during last week’s 2-0 loss to Perth and supporters unfurled a banner, which read: ‘‘Enough failure, lies and arrogance 10,000 fans demand the muppet gone.’’

Those sentiments were clearly aimed at hapless Jets coach Phil Stubbins and prompted a typically defiant response from club owner Nathan Tinkler, who told the Daily Telegraph this week: ‘‘How many goals has Phil Stubbins missed? It is not his fault and no one is working harder to fix this. You would swear we had a squad everyone is envious of.’’

To some degree, I agree with Tinkler.

The Jets could sign Sir Alex Ferguson as coach but, given the same group of players, my suspicion is that results would be unlikely to improve spectacularly.

In saying that, how could things possibly be worse?

The bottom line is that there are two people who fans are entitled to blame for this shambolic season: Stubbins and Tinkler. This is a mess of their making.

A few months ago, I was content to give Stubbins the benefit of the doubt, arguing that the Jets had not reached the finals in their previous four seasons and he should not be held accountable for an ingrained, long-term culture of failure.

But then came the fiasco in which five players and three assistant coaches were effectively sacked, leaving the players who remained facing a thankless task.

To their credit, those players have been competitive in the majority of their games since. To borrow a line from Tinkler, ‘‘the effort is there’’.

But when the one-time billionaire suggested that Newcastle were ‘‘in the market for the right guys’’ and an influx of quality signings will ‘‘see us much higher up the ladder’’ next season, I can’t help thinking I have heard it all before.

Talk is cheap, Nathan. Decent players aren’t. Least of all when they are being approached to join a club with a reputation as a basket case, on and off the field.

Why would any self-respecting A-League player want to join Newcastle? They have been also-rans for five seasons, have a coach with one of the worst records in A-League history and seem to believe they are entitled to pay wages and superannuation when it suits Tinkler, not when it is due.

The Jets have become the A-League’s last-chance saloon. They will surely have to pay significant ‘‘overs’’ to attract any players with alternative options.

Even if Tinkler is willing and able to dig deep into his pockets, a prospect he has appeared intent on avoiding in recent times, fans are entitled to be dubious about Stubbins’ recruiting skills, judging by the squad he assembled for this season.

Maybe in 12 months I’ll be eating these words. I hope that is the case.

Last night's remarkable win against Melbourne Victory, which may well help Newcastle avoid the dreaded spoon, was a reward for the persistence and resilience of Newcastle's players.

But if it was a step in the right direction, there is still a long road ahead before the club has regained the credibility and respect it has enjoyed at other times over the past 10 years.


http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3004363/sporting-declaration-sign-of-the-times/?cs=306

[MFKS]

As a matter of principle I applaud Nathan Tinkler's stance to ignore the lynch mob and back his coach. For whatever reason the owner of Newcastle Jets has - in the midst of the worst season in the club's history - decided Phil Stubbins is his man until he, and only he, thinks otherwise. A mutiny in the dressing room and a hysterical campaign in the grandstands haven't swayed him. In this era, that almost makes Tinkler unique.

The attack on Stubbins by an increasingly strident group of fans is sadly no surprise. Not least to the coach. Two wins all season naturally puts his decisions in the spotlight. There have been legitimate question marks over recruiting - how can we forget Johnny Steele - tactics, substitutions, philosophy, man management and selections, and as yet Stubbins hasn't found the answers. Fair-minded observers should recognise an improvement since the nadir of that seven-goal humiliation in Adelaide, but in a results-orientation business the rewards haven't been forthcoming. It truly has been a baptism of fire for a man in his first season as a boss in the A-League, and whichever way you look at it his senior coaching career could well be hanging by a thread.

All this means the fans have every right to vent their opinion, and frustration. In Newcastle especially so, as they've been commendably loyal until recently. But it's the manner of their protests that I find distasteful.

In recent weeks groups of supporters have taken turns to stand behind the bench and hurl abuse. I've seen fathers rush to the tunnel at the end of the game to shout obscenities. And on Easter Monday, a banner was unfurled in the driving rain which passed as fair comment until Stubbins was described as a "muppet". The fact he wasn't named doesn't mitigate. In his after-match presser the coach outed himself.

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As match commentator, I had the option of mentioning the banner. I didn't. On a human level, who deserves to be shamed on national television? No one. I ask those responsible, who are no doubt congratulating themselves, one question. Would you like to be called a "muppet" on such a public stage? And let's all be frank, that description would have been a lot more colourful if they felt they could get away with it.

Of course we live in a society where a culture of very public and very personal abuse is endemic. I recognise that, but refuse to accept it, encourage it, or partake in it. That's a decision we all have to make as individuals. The trouble is it's so often a collective. The strong generally lead the weak in a direction they wouldn't otherwise take. A sporting stadium offers a perfect forum. And unlike "Yabba" on the old SCG hill, there is rarely any humour in the sledging these days. Which underlines how vicious it's become.

As this is not a sociology assignment, I'll return to current events. The Jets are in crisis, no doubt. Tinkler has presided over the decline of a club that won the league in 2008 but has missed out on the finals for the past five seasons and is odds-on to collect a second wooden spoon. And he's not been afraid to point the finger of blame - there have been five coaches in five seasons - and his decision to sack Branko Culina by phone while he was attending the season launch was utterly ruthless.

It may be that Tinkler's simply digging his heels in because he doesn't like anyone telling him how to run his club. It may be that he truly believes Stubbins is the right man to turn things around in what has become a financially straitened operation. It may be that he simply likes him as a bloke. Whatever the case, there is only one man who can get rid of the coach, and he's not budging. The fans seem to have conceded this, and now seem intent on attacking Stubbins so ferociously they hope he'll walk. But the Englishman who once dug potatoes for a living is made of sterner stuff.

If Stubbins does go, you suspect that decision will be made during the off-season over a beer with his owner, maybe in a back bar in Merewether. Tinkler won't be making a move with a gun at his head. He may not make a move at all.

Head coaches in all sports these days are human punching bags, living in a surreal work environment where they are increasingly isolated - sometimes on their own benches, or dressing rooms. Yes, they go into it with open eyes, and there's never any shortage of candidates. But they usually underestimate the human toll, to themselves and their family. The black dog is an all-too familiar companion. Do we just accept that?


The Cocks Article

[Jetmaster]

You should respond in the comments or Twitter and get the Cock to come to you for an interview.....identity hidden of course.

[Hunter403]

Where was Cockerill when all the crap was going down at the club? Where was the in depth article investigating the sacking and dysfunction at the club?

No where to be seen. Newcastle is not important enough to warrant such investigation. He'd rather sit back, say nothing and then snipe at those who are passionate about the team.

London to a brick, if the rubbish that has occurred at the Jets had occurred at SC or MV, there would have been long detailed investigation and plenty of column inches dedicated to it by Cockerill. So Newcastle gets his his silence when the fecal matter hit the fan but the fans get his attack because they dare speak up and do his job.

Pathetic.

[MFKS]

You should respond in the comments or Twitter and get the Cock to come to you for an interview.....identity hidden of course.

The message was directed to Stubbins Tinkler Murphy.

They got it loud and clear.

It got Tinkler out from under his rock
Murphy was on David Collins hosing out fires
I have heard Muppet was also not impressed

It has also got the subject to the focus of peoples attention. Many feel disenchanted but are tolerating it all. This brought the subject to the attention again a subject I feel deserves to be broached.

I am and was fully aware it would most likely make squat difference and never expected Tinkler to announce the next day Stubbins is gone. I have though brought the subject into his mind and him and Str8 Shooter Murphy will be more than aware the Muppet had better deliver soon and even the muppet will be aware his time is limited if results don't improve.

You never know it may actually see Tinkler actually put some effort in and go to town on this rebuild he spruiks
Maybe the kick in the arse will actually have a positive effect so this time next year we are looking down on other clubs and looking forward to the finals for a change


As for Cockerill why would I want to talk to an irrelevant nobody who has no idea what he is talking about on this subject yet gets a weekly column to garble his opinion then has the audacity to criticise anyone else offering their opinion???
Lefty Apologist trying to silence people by using his opinion to ridicule what he doesn't like or agree with.

I don't agree with his opinion he is more than welcome to have it though.

[plague]

why would I want to talk to an irrelevant nobody who has no idea what he is talking about

Because it might be good to be on the other end of that conversation for once?

[stopper2]

The old saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me" comes to mind when I read Cockerill's dribble.

Did anyone light flares?....No

Were bottles thrown?....No

Was Muppet or anyone threatened with violence?....No

If supporters are criticised for voicing their displeasure over a sign.....the displeasure brought about by the fact this is the clubs worst season ever and yet the coach is still given reassurances he has a job while so many others have been sacked or released from their contracts.......then we might as well not stand up for what is right anymore and just take it up the arse!!!!

[hawk]

The old saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me" comes to mind when I read Cockerill's dribble.

Did anyone light flares?....No

Were bottles thrown?....No

Was Muppet or anyone threatened with violence?....No

If supporters are criticised for voicing their displeasure over a sign.....the displeasure brought about by the fact this is the clubs worst season ever and yet the coach is still given reassurances he has a job while so many others have been sacked or released from their contracts.......then we might as well not stand up for what is right anymore and just take it up the arse!!!!

cockheaderill's team does the flares and violence but a sign gets his wild up. just another 2 bit muppet who deserves a lot less

[Tommyjet]

TINKLER CONFIDENT OF STUBBINS LEADING JETS REVIVAL

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Newcastle Jets owner Nathan Tinkler has re-affirmed his backing for coach Phil Stubbins, insisting the heavily-criticised Englishman can lead the club to a renaissance next season.
By David Lewis
13 APR 2015 - 7:25 PM UPDATED 40 MINS AGO

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Buoyed by signs of life from the stricken Jets in the dying embers of this campaign - culminating in Friday's stunning 1-0 upset win over ladder leader Melbourne Victory at AAMI Park - Tinkler said it's time for Stubbins' army of detractors to cut him some slack.

Vilified for presiding over just three wins in 25 games in a season which has seen mass sackings of players and the exits of coaching staff, Stubbins, according to Tinkler, will prove the doubters wrong.

"I have no reservations in supporting him. He has done everything he said he would do in the face of some fierce criticism," he declared.

"I think there are 25 million soccer coaches in Australia at the moment, everybody has an opinion and many would do things differently while there are some there that would support him.

"I beleive he can do a job for us … he has made some brave decisions to try and take us forward.

"We had an established losing culture at the club and it didn't matter who we were going to bring to it, it wasn't going to change.

"He needed to take action and I understood the reasons for that.

"I am sure it will pay dividends in time. Unfortunately, it's too late this season but we have plenty to look forward to next year."

Fed up fans vented their anger during the Jets' 2-0 loss to Perth at Hunter Stadium in Round 24, unveiling a giant banner which read: 'Enough failure, lies and arrogance. 10,000 fans demand the Muppet gone'.

Tinkler was unimpressed by the caustic reference to his coach, adding: "He's a real man, a good guy and a good character.

"I'm looking forward to coming to our final home game of season against Syney FC on Friday night, having a beer with Phil and laughing about some of these banners.

"Anybody content to keep getting beat I wouldn't call a supporter. The people who are whingeing and blogging their hearts out, carrying on and holding up banners and stuff, I wouldn't say they were true supporters.

"You don’t change culture at a club without some major decisions and it takes a bit of real commitment to do that. Phil's put himself on the line, made those calls and it may just pay off for him.

"The previous two weeks we were unlucky to get beat (against Adelaide and Glory) … and I was very happy for the win against Victory.

"But I can't say it was a shock given how we have been playing. We have turned around season a bit and that's a credit to coaching staff and the players too ... a lot of those guys have been unfairly portrayed.

Tinkler contends that Stubbins has found the right template for the future.

"Next year the enthusiasm and will to win won't be going away," he said.

"Phil wants to play an entertaining game. We had to stop conceding so many goals and become hard to beat first and foremost and now you seeing another feather to his bow in an attacking sense.

"Bloggers can complain all they want but a team doesn't change overnight … it takes time and we are building now to be a real threat for the start of next year.

"In Newcastle he has been treated pretty harshly by the media … outside of Newcastle people seem to be picking up on some of the positive changes that have been made at the club."

With his own position as club owner being closely monitored by FFA over the scheduling of payments to club creditors, Tinkler said: "With the FFA we have taken care of some big issues and now we are taking care of some of the smaller ones. This is not the EPL, we don't have those types of finances but we are working through our issues.

"I am hoping to be in a position to look at marquees and really shake up the squad for next year."

Tinkler would like to attract an Emile Heskey-type figure up front, fondling recalling the veteran Englishman's spell on the Hunter.

"We'd love to have some body of Emile's stature again. He was great for us … he didn't just do well on the paddock but he improved those around him and it was a pleasure to have around the club. Someone like that would be ideal for us."

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/04/13/tinkler-confident-stubbins-leading-jets-revival


There you go. We are just about all plastic fans.:rof:

[Bremsstrahlung]

Bloggers :gent:

[Premy]

"I'm looking forward to coming to our final home game of season against Syney FC on Friday night, having a beer with Phil and laughing about some of these banners."

Really?
Let's give the fat controller something to laugh about.
This really shows how much respect he has for us.

[pv4]

"I have no reservations in supporting him. He has done everything he said he would do in the face of some fierce criticism," he declared.

"I beleive he can do a job for us … he has made some brave decisions to try and take us forward.

"He needed to take action and I understood the reasons for that.

"You don’t change culture at a club without some major decisions and it takes a bit of real commitment to do that. Phil's put himself on the line, made those calls and it may just pay off for him.

Judging by all the above from Tinkler's article.. I would say that Tinkler is saying Phil Stubbins made all the decisions about axing coaches and players. Which for the most part is totally the opposite of what Stubbins and Murphy have painted the picture of so far (Murphy less, tbf). Also it further proves how spineless Stubbins is, when you think back to Clayton Zane's reaction to his sacking and how he hadn't heard a single word from Stubbins. Just because I'm in a Game of Thrones mood, Ed Stark reckons if you are sentencing a man to death, you've got to swing the sword yourself. Pretty much the opposite of what Stubbins has done in this situation, and only furthers my dislike and allows me to judge his character further.


"Anybody content to keep getting beat I wouldn't call a supporter. The people who are whingeing and blogging their hearts out, carrying on and holding up banners and stuff, I wouldn't say they were true supporters.

I wholeheartedly agree - anybody content to keep getting beat I wouldn't call a supporter. Like those 6k members that don't show up to games. Like that 4100 fans that didn't execute a tifo, highlighting their discontent with the current regime (ie everyone but the one guy who painted it, and 20 guys that held it up).


"In Newcastle he has been treated pretty harshly by the media … outside of Newcastle people seem to be picking up on some of the positive changes that have been made at the club."

Interesting that the people who follow the club more closely than others are still able to see the huge issues with the club.


Tinkler would like to attract an Emile Heskey-type figure up front, fondling recalling the veteran Englishman's spell on the Hunter.

"We'd love to have some body of Emile's stature again. He was great for us … he didn't just do well on the paddock but he improved those around him and it was a pleasure to have around the club. Someone like that would be ideal for us."

Go back a few Jetstream pods, I said Tinkler would say exactly this.

[GazFish35]

"He didn't just do well on the paddock"

Oh my..... Someone show this bloke some dvd's of mark Janko, bessart Berisha, Shinji Ono,

[hawk]

can only hop tinkler chokes on a mutton bone. useless pos

[MFKS]

:rof:I was not gonna do a banner this week. Might knock something small up but he is deadset trying to bait me :trolls:

[Jetmaster]

We had an established losing culture at the club and it didn't matter who we were going to bring to it, it wasn't going to change.

Forgetting all the nuts and bolts of what has gone down, this is the one sentence I entirely agreed with - you could bring in the whole Chelsea squad here and they would turn to shit overnight.

Now why that is the case is the hard question - and what is the long term solution?

[Grimario]

10-5-12
8-7-12
10-6-11
3-8-14

What exactly was the losing culture like before if it has turned into this season? The culture he has planted the seeds for now is about showing up, getting your paycheck, not making waves and being a good little yes man.

**** stubbins and **** Tinkler.

[hawk]

:rof:I was not gonna do a banner this week. Might knock something small up but he is deadset trying to bait me :trolls:

do it. ill give you a hand

[380]

do it. ill give you a hand

+ 1 , Just let me know.

[plague]

Darn bloggers.


Apparently I am well and truly a better fan than Member.

Get that up ya.

Tinks roolz.

[MFKS]

Darn bloggers.


Apparently I am well and truly a better fan than Member.

Get that up ya.

Tinks roolz.

I find it priceless he is trying to insinuate I am plastic.

I have so far managed to get the fat **** out from under his rock twice. "

Whos trolling who??
Funny that he needs a second dig a week later

[plague]

I find it priceless he is trying to insinuate I am plastic.

I have so far managed to get the fat **** out from under his rock twice. "

Whos trolling who??
Funny that he needs a second dig a week later

I think this is Tinks' way of starting to win back real fans like myself.

Although i cant make the Chairmans box this week big man, im on holidays.
Maybe next year yeah?

[Jeterpool]

I think this is Tinks' way of starting to win back real fans like myself.

Although i cant make the Chairmans box this week big man, im on holidays.
Maybe next year yeah?

Real fan!? I thought you were a super duper fan or something.

[plague]

Real fan!? I thought you were a super duper fan or something.

Yeah, you're right.
I just didn't want to brag.

[belchardo]

pay day at the jets...if they're lucky

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3012178/jets-pay-day-up-in-the-air/?cs=306

[Grimario]

pay day at the jets...if they're lucky

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3012178/jets-pay-day-up-in-the-air/?cs=306

Wait wait wait... the excuse for Feb and March was that the 15th fell on the weekend, wasn't it?

[Jeterpool]

Wait wait wait... the excuse for Feb and March was that the 15th fell on the weekend, wasn't it?

It was

[plague]

Wait wait wait... the excuse for Feb and March was that the 15th fell on the weekend, wasn't it?

Easter holidays, Anzac Day, those things stuff your payroll system worse than the millennium bug.

Will totally understand if it's a few days late.
No biggie.

[Grimario]

Easter holidays, Anzac Day, those things stuff your payroll system worse than the millennium bug.

Will totally understand if it's a few days late.
No biggie.

Shut up, Nubbins Stinkler.

[plague]

How the heck does the #str8shoota have a 'spokesman'? I hope there's not someone employed to give shitkhunt answers to people and it's just someone answering the phones.

[plague]

Shut up, Nubbins Stinkler.

If I really was either of them id have sacked myself long ago.

[Grimario]

If I really was either of them id have sacked myself long ago.

Nah, if you were either one of them you wouldn't have thought you had any reason for sacking yourself.

[plague]

Nah, if you were either one of them you wouldn't have thought you had any reason for sacking yourself.

I've sacked myself before though for the greater good.
It can happen.

[MFKS]

I've sacked myself before though for the greater good.
It can happen.

Greater Good??

Your not painting yourself in a good light there Plague.

Your basically saying you were the Muppet of the business??

[plague]

Greater Good??

Your not painting yourself in a good light there Plague.

Your basically saying you were the Muppet of the business??

Nah pal. Had a better offer waiting round the corner.
Needed the Chairmans nod in order to get paid instead of resigning with nowt.
Sold it like it was the greatest idea ever.
The 'greater good' was 'my bank account'.
Chairman is bankrupt nowadays.
Plague is not.

[MFKS]

pay day at the jets...if they're lucky

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3012178/jets-pay-day-up-in-the-air/?cs=306
Dillon now reporting on Twitter the players have been paid and the club have done everything from there end and it is now waiting for each players bank to process.

Well he is going off what he has been told by the Jets so no surprises if that turns out to be empty promises and lies

[belchardo]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/15/perth-glory-third-salary-cap-breach-notice

Glory in trouble again. Could be docked points for next season. Another $100k found under the table.

[stopper2]

Dillon now reporting on Twitter the players have been paid and the club have done everything from there end and it is now waiting for each players bank to process.

Well he is going off what he has been told by the Jets so no surprises if that turns out to be empty promises and lies

FFS is it so hard to pay the players on the agreed date of their contracts???

This club has really lost me this year because of it's lack of professionalism, lack of transparency, lack of vision, lack of ambition, lack of honesty and lack of common decency. As they say the fish rots from the head down and Tinkler and his Muppet are rotten to the very core.

[GazFish35]

Zenon released

[Jeterpool]

Zenon released

What!? Where?

[Tommyjet]

https://twitter.com/fourfourtwooz/status/588295480339107840

[GazFish35]

Jets opt not to re-sign Caravella

Newcastle Jets can confirm that the Club will not retain the services of veteran midfielder Zenon Caravella beyond the current Hyundai A-League campaign.

The former Adelaide and Gold Coast United midfielder is currently sidelined with an ankle injury sustained against Perth Glory recently. If fit, Caravella will be considered for selection for the Club’s final match of the Hyundai A-League 2014/15 season away to Brisbane Roar next Friday.

Newcastle Jets wish to thank Caravella for his services to the Club over the past three Hyundai A-League seasons, and hope for good fortune for himself and his family in the future.

^^^^
Club press release.

Article/interview with cara on 442 says he was offered the captaincy I. The wake of the mid season cull.

Captaincy offer to don't come Monday.

Stubbins man management is beyond ridiculous

[Jeterpool]

Twitter news release. Ok.

I guess it comes a point where if we re-sign everyone who is currently here, can we expect to do better next season?

He's certainly not going To be the last. Cheers Zenon for your contributions to the team. You worked tirelessly in our midfield. And all on here know what you did for the sacked 5. Good luck.

[MFKS]

^^^^
Club press release.

Article/interview with cara on 442 says he was offered the captaincy I. The wake of the mid season cull.

Captaincy offer to don't come Monday.

Stubbins man management is beyond ridiculous
You coming Friday night?? I have a few stories on this subject

[lquiquer]

That F#%^*g culture shit again...... Fat controller monitoring from Singapore ...... !!! Oh wait he is coming Friday to have a beer and a laugh with the Muppet!!!!!.... I don't have nothing to laugh about !!!! Do you ?

[plague]

Should never have cut his hair.
Shit went downhill fast after that.

[q-money]

i thought everyone wanted him gone? clearly i don't watch this clusterf*ck enough to understand it

[lquiquer]

Should never have cut his hair.
Shit went downhill fast after that.
Wish the fat controller would grow hair !!!

[MFKS]

i thought everyone wanted him gone? clearly i don't watch this clusterf*ck enough to understand it

I can't complain.

Muppet has made a good decision here I feel.


Do feel for Robbo as he is probably heading to Stockton Bridge to jump though

[lquiquer]

I can't complain.

Muppet has made a good decision here I feel.


Do feel for Robbo as he is probably heading to Stockton Bridge to jump though

Good decision I agree...,but FFS the timing!!!!????...,could not it wait 2 weeks?... 10 days ?...., 1 month????

[MFKS]

If you are a competent Manager it would wait until the end of the season

If you are a Muppet with poor man management skills though it would come with the season still going for another 10days

[q-money]

RIP robbo

http://c3e308.medialib.glogster.com/media/c0/c0154fd58ff287d7880a8faa1e69f59f9c252b111c7cfd557d 7a5af265ffcfe3/soldiercrying-jpg.jpg

[plague]

RIP robbo

http://c3e308.medialib.glogster.com/media/c0/c0154fd58ff287d7880a8faa1e69f59f9c252b111c7cfd557d 7a5af265ffcfe3/soldiercrying-jpg.jpg

So we're all in agreement that Robbo is really Uncle Frank Farina right?

[GazFish35]

You coming Friday night?? I have a few stories on this subject

Yeah, but I'll have the tin lids, so any stories must be PG

[hawk]

Stabbins must have taken it hard to react like this

[GazFish35]

Klopp in.

[baldrick]

REPORTS emerged last week that energy drink giant Red Bull was in the market for another football club, to go along with the New York Red Bulls, Red Bull Salzburg, RB Leipzig and Red Bull Brasil.

The organisation is linked to a £60million takeover of struggling English Championship club Leeds United, which has been on a financial precipice for years.

The comparisons between Leeds United and the Newcastle Jets are many, and as a Leeds fan, I know the troubles all too well.

Leeds is owned by Massimo Cellino, a millionaire, some say billionaire, who has faced corruption inquiries and tax problems, not unlike those faced by Jets owner Nathan Tinkler.

Cellino has sacked players mercilessly, one reportedly due to the fact he wore No.17 on his back, Cellino’s unlucky number, and he’s dismissed three coaches this season. Manager Neil Redfearn is also on the chopping block.

Leeds supporters have seen the club repeatedly underwhelm, with the quality of their squad evidence of their financial position.

Star players have been moved on and the money made hasn’t filtered into replacements. The club has been hemorrhaging money for years.

The English Football League has ruled Cellino is unfit to own the club after being convicted of tax fraud, which has led the Italian to entertain offers to sell, with Red Bull reportedly close to signing.

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But I think their money could be better spent on our shores – £60million to land Leeds or they could land the Jets for nearly $6million.

Call me crazy (some of you will) but how many other offers would be on the table? Dundee United has held discussions, but whispers are that talks aren’t advanced.

From a business standpoint, it’s a pretty good opportunity for Red Bull as well.

The Jets already carry their colour scheme – red, blue and gold – and I’m already seeing numerous cross-promotion opportunities in the Jets name, given the energy drink also owns the Red Bull X-Fighters, in which Novocastrian Matt Hall races.

If it did want to change the name, to say Newcastle Red Bulls, I don’t see fans objecting.

The Hunter market also gives the brand a strong youth demographic, where their products are targeted, and with the region thriving on a love of extreme sports – a market that Red Bull practically runs these days – I’d say it’s a match made in heaven.

There might be questions about an energy drink maker owning a sports team – but we are now owned by a coal baron.

An alternative could be Football Federation Australia claiming ownership, but chief executive David Gallop has said the league doesn’t want to run a club, and its coffers only run so deep.

History shows there wouldn’t be significant cash on offer and the FFA may have more than just the Jets putting their hand out, with other clubs struggling to remain financially viable.

Ownership from a company such as Red Bull comes with pluses.

The Jets could tap into the group’s clubs all over the globe but the benefits will trickle to our underappreciated region that’s in need of an energy boost.

The brand has shown its desire to win and have put millions into the MLS franchise, securing Thierry Henry and our own Tim Cahill for the New York club in recent years.

Red Bull’s vast interest across world football could prove a sticking point in its attempt to secure Leeds United. European footballing governors UEFA have limited the number of clubs that any organisation can own on the continent.

It’s not an issue in Australia, and although history shows foreign ownership has mixed results here, the acquisition of Melbourne Heart by Manchester City has been positive.

Let’s get them to Newcastle and show them around.

How can they not fall in love with this city? A local hotel tour would be enough to convince them to sign. Vodka Red Bulls sell at a rate of knots every Friday and Saturday night.

Jokes aside, a buyer such as Red Bull doesn’t come knocking every day of the week.

Such a move may not just give football in the region wings, but it will give it a heartbeat once again.

Call it fantasy, but you know where to find me for my finder’s fee.


http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3013539/opinion-red-bull-could-give-jets-back-their-wings/?cs=306


I know it's an opinion piece, but this could be a good option..

[boz-monaut]

I know it's an opinion piece, but this could be a good option..
is your only reasoning for this 'Red Bull aren't Tinkler?'

[Beeen]

Red Bull can go get ****ed. Thats my opinion and it's good.

[baldrick]

is your only reasoning for this 'Red Bull aren't Tinkler?'


Pretty much.

And the membership might not include some freebies.

[redwah]

Pretty much.

And the membership might not include some freebies.

Never seen you with a red bull.....me on the other hand......I'll take your share.

[GazFish35]

If it did want to change the name, to say Newcastle Red Bulls, I don’t see fans objecting.

Really?

[MFKS]

Really?

Why not go the full hog and call us Newcastle Bullshit

BE much more fitting

[BodyNovo]

you can imagine all the melbourne crayshas & and sydney olympics

with the big anti modern football brigade if it happened.

the redbull newcastle redbulls playing out of redbull stadium

[Bon]

Isn't Lake Macquarie quite close to securing a Redbull air race due to Matt Hall's connections here?

[MFKS]

Isn't Lake Macquarie quite close to securing a Redbull air race due to Matt Hall's connections here?

Will never happen

This is Newcastle after all. Never forget that.

No progressive forward thinking ideas are allowed to see the light of day.

Just another grand fanciful dream that will never get off the drawing board.


Plus if they wanted to do one in Australia Sydney Harbour would make a far superior location ie NYE Fireworks Sydney to Hobart etc etc

[BodyNovo]

Isn't Lake Macquarie quite close to securing a Redbull air race due to Matt Hall's connections here?

yep, the liberal candidate for charlestown wanted to make it happen, he didn't get in, but they jumped on it anyway.

2016 looks the go.

couple of greens protesting the idea but.

[sammydog]

Article in the paper is rubbish. Pure speculation and dreaming.

Fans not caring if we have a name change..........sorry buddy, we do give a shit.

I can see benefits in Red Bull buying in.....not tinkler, connections to other clubs, money, pulling power, etc but there are also a lot of equally valid counter arguments.

Doesn't matter though, it won't happen.


yep, the liberal candidate for charlestown wanted to make it happen, he didn't get in, but they jumped on it anyway.

2016 looks the go.

couple of greens protesting the idea but.

Yeah, I thought I had read that the LMCC Councillors were in favour of it.

[pv4]

I have zero idea how I'd react to a rebrand of the club. In a sense, I feel like it's what we need. But I have no idea if the connection would be there still.

[GazFish35]

Plus if they wanted to do one in Australia Sydney Harbour would make a far superior location ie NYE Fireworks Sydney to Hobart etc etc

It's been to Perth before

[GazFish35]

Why not go the full hog and call us Newcastle Bullshit

BE much more fitting

Club united novocastrian team strikers

IMO

[BodyNovo]

still much prefer

'nathan tinklers hunter sports group hunter ports newcastle united jets football club'

NTHSGHPNUJFC

[Footyhead]

still much prefer

'nathan tinklers hunter sports group hunter ports newcastle united jets football club'

NTHSGHPNUJFC


Simplifeid...NFI

[lquiquer]

Bulut wants out....... can't imagine him and the Muppet working together!!! :roflz: :argument:

@TheWorldGame: EXCLUSIVE: Kerem Bulut wants out of @wswanderersfc as foreign clubs circle http://t.co/sS5HfKuPWL #SBSALeague http://t.co/n9ib3OjYd0

[Grimario]

Fans not caring if we have a name change..........sorry buddy, we do give a shit.


Why? Kill the club off, rebrand it and let us remember the Jets we had when we were younger and not the farcical Knights rebranding that is dying right now.

Forza NRBFC!

[WolfMan]

Really?

My sentiments exactly. Change the name at your peril

[Jeterpool]

Bulut wants out....... can't imagine him and the Muppet working together!!! :roflz: :argument:

@TheWorldGame: EXCLUSIVE: Kerem Bulut wants out of @wswanderersfc as foreign clubs circle http://t.co/sS5HfKuPWL #SBSALeague http://t.co/n9ib3OjYd0

Lasted longer than I expected.

[Jeterpool]

Also good to see them picking up on red bull after I mentioned them last year.

Newcastle Red Bull can't happen

[Grimario]

Bulut wants out....... can't imagine him and the Muppet working together!!! :roflz: :argument:

@TheWorldGame: EXCLUSIVE: Kerem Bulut wants out of @wswanderersfc as foreign clubs circle http://t.co/sS5HfKuPWL #SBSALeague http://t.co/n9ib3OjYd0

I hope he goes and plays in Spain so Suarez can sink his teeth into him. The headlines would be worth it.

[plague]

the redbull newcastle redbulls playing out of redbull stadium

.........still serving up mid strength cats piss.

[belchardo]

I hope he goes and plays in Spain so Suarez can sink his teeth into him. The headlines would be worth it.

:lulzturtle::lulz:

[Bon]

the redbull newcastle redbulls playing out of redbull stadium

And we already have the Red Ass food chain/lawsuit waiting to happen, established in the stadium..

[hawk]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3013539/opinion-red-bull-could-give-jets-back-their-wings/?cs=306


I know it's an opinion piece, but this could be a good option..

ADAM SANTAROSSA needs to get off the crack. What a douche

[GazFish35]

I hope he goes and plays in Spain so Suarez can sink his teeth into him. The headlines would be worth it.

Close the internet.

[Thomas477]

Peter O'Leary is retiring after the Wellington game. I know that refs cop a lot of flak, and rightly so, but this guy has always seemed to be one of the better ones.

Sauce: http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/foundation-a-league-referee-announces-retirement/razl9ijpivgl15q2d8osr4z24

[lil_masi]

Peter O'Leary is retiring after the Wellington game. I know that refs cop a lot of flak, and rightly so, but this guy has always seemed to be one of the better ones.

Sauce: http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/foundation-a-league-referee-announces-retirement/razl9ijpivgl15q2d8osr4z24

He was peaking in his last game for the jets. When he kicked the ball out was absolute gold

[borat]

He was peaking in his last game for the jets. When he kicked the ball out was absolute gold
You don't reckon that was indulgent? BK was hardly time wasting with 20mins to go. Who else do you notify when a ball is flat, if not the ref.

I thought he hammed it up to the crowd big time that game.

[belchardo]

a distraction from our shitness.


Canberra's oldest soccer player David Richards still picking up paceDavid Richards only consented to having a pacemaker implanted to fix his irregular heartbeat if the surgeon gave him one guarantee - he could still play soccer.


Richards is Canberra's oldest registered soccer player, but the 75-year-old has started his 50th season with a new pair of boots and an extra spring in his step.


"Last year I was playing against over-35s and I was half-a-yard too slow, so I've been going to the gym three times a week, including seeing a personal trainer once a week," Richards says.


"This year I'm back in the over-45s. I can tell I'm quicker, I'm getting to balls I couldn't get to before. This year I'm really going to see if I can bang a few goals in.


"I also bought myself a new pair of boots this year. I remember soccer boots when they were leather with a big nobbly toe caps and sprigs that were nailed in ... you probably needed them too, because the leather balls with laces would get wet and were like kicking a rock."


The Australian Bureau of Statistics released findings this year that showed a 5 per cent decrease in Australians participating in sport over the past two years. The national average of Australian participation is 60 per cent, but the ACT is the most active place in the country with 73 per cent.


It wasn't until Richards arrived in Canberra in 1965 as a "Ten Pound Pom" to work for NASA's Orroral Valley Tracking Station that he discovered a real passion for soccer.


Richards grew up in London during the Blitz in World War II, where kids would play on the streets, using tennis balls and gateposts as goals. But he was 25 before taking the sport up in Canberra.


"I grew up in a tough area of London and when they picked teams, I was left on the sidelines," Richards said. "So I thought soccer was a stupid game and didn't play it until I came to Australia and started playing in the Churches League ... I've never had so many injuries."


Richards is a life member of the Brindabella Blues, making him exempt from registration fees. He pays them anyway, which the club uses to help subsidise fees for disadvantaged kids.


"I get a lot of respect from the players, more than I deserve, they indulge me a bit," he said. "You've got to keep on the move, you seize up like an old machine otherwise. I think that's what happens to older people, they become immobile because their muscles die.


"There's no reason to quit, I've improved out of sight since I've had this personal trainer, he's doing me a world of good.


"I truly believe my situation is not going to be an unusual thing in the future. I think you're going to find a lot of people like me, still playing in their later years."



http://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/act-sport/canberras-oldest-soccer-player-david-richards-still-picking-up-pace-20150418-1mmq09.html

[Thomas477]

Doesn't surprise me, the churches league's are dangerous.

And in unrelated news, Rostyn Griffiths is leaving Perth, would love to have him here.

[The Postman]

Doesn't surprise me, the churches league's are dangerous.

And in unrelated news, Rostyn Griffiths is leaving Perth, would love to have him here.

Scott Neville apparently going back home to Perth also...

[Jeterpool]

Scott Neville apparently going back home to Perth also...

WTF!!!!! Better not happen

[lquiquer]

WTF!!!!! Better not happen

Would not surprise me.........I don't think Him and Stubbins would go on holiday together in the off season!!!!....:grin:

[hawk]

Scott Neville apparently going back home to Perth also...

why not. Stubbins screws this club as much as his mum

[borat]

With what money would Perth be able to afford Neville now that they actually have a salary cap?

If it was any other club than Perth it would be believable

[Tommyjet]

Peter crouch signed a 2yr extension at stoke.

Tinkler:blah::blah::blah::facepalm:

[westjet]

With what money would Perth be able to afford Neville now that they actually have a salary cap?

If it was any other club than Perth it would be believable

Id imagine neville would almost go to the first team that offers him minimal wage just to get away from the muppet. Wasnt he one of the players who let him know what he thought of him during the sackings. No way he will play many games next season with us due to our non grudge holding fraud of a coach.

[borat]

Id imagine neville would almost go to the first team that offers him minimal wage just to get away from the muppet. Wasnt he one of the players who let him know what he thought of him during the sackings. No way he will play many games next season with us due to our non grudge holding fraud of a coach.

Seriously there are some delusional statements on this forum. I give you exhibit A.

Nev didn't want the captaincy and probably agrees with you that Stubbins is a muppet. But you seriously believe he would walk away from a high paying contract for min wage is nothing short of fantasy

[MFKS]

Seriously there are some delusional statements on this forum. I give you exhibit A.

Nev didn't want the captaincy and probably agrees with you that Stubbins is a muppet. But you seriously believe he would walk away from a high paying contract for min wage is nothing short of fantasy

I have it on good authority Neville will be seriously considering his future at the club and it will have nothing to do with anything other than our failure of a coach

I know of another player who will also probably ask to have his contract ripped up just to get out.


The only delusion rests with you that there are players prepared to do whatever it takes to get out

[lquiquer]

I have it on good authority Neville will be seriously considering his future at the club and it will have nothing to do with anything other than our failure of a coach


And I can confirm that ^

[hawk]

Seriously there are some delusional statements on this forum.


no way, everything is true.

[lil_masi]

Van Stratten has been signed as our goalkeeping coach. Thinking he has a bit to offer. Worked with Buffon for a long time.

[GazFish35]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/video?v=jets-fans-grill-tinkler-_1227311094326&vc=204

[Blackmac79]

Care to identify the three people?

Other than jeterpool. Can pick that stubbins lover out.

[GazFish35]

Identify? Me?

I wouldn't know the other two from a bar of soap.

[sammydog]

Identify? Me?

I wouldn't know the other two from a bar of soap.

You don't know what a bar of soap look like?

[MFKS]

As much as Tinkler may say shit that appeals to me he then goes and says something straight after it that makes the blood boil.

If the worm was running on that interview it would be rising then falling swift.
Then some short spikes and falls and by about the time the question of Tinker's financial situation comes up and the arrogance in his answer comes through the worm is flat lining permanently in the negative with no sign of life

[Blackmac79]

Identify? Me?

I wouldn't know the other two from a bar of soap.

Thought they may have been committee members. Obviously not. Wonder how they were chosen.

[MFKS]

Thought they may have been committee members. Obviously not. Wonder how they were chosen.

Imagine if they just chose them randomly as people walked into the ground.

Imagine if they picked me by mistake:rof:


I think I would have upset the prick

[GazFish35]

I'd love to ask "how do you plan to build the club given no-one in town trust you, or a word you say?"

The "winning games" answer annoyed me the most, if the business model is based on winning games we are ****ed. Engage with the fanbase, build strong relationships, and when we lose you won't see thousands no longer turning up. We've been shit for years, and we still had decent average ate dances, clearing a winning team isn't the be all and end all.

Less arrogance, more transparency, Moore backing up the words with actions from off the field might actually help.

[MFKS]

I'd love to ask "how do you plan to build the club given no-one in town trust you, or a word you say?"

The "winning games" answer annoyed me the most, if the business model is based on winning games we are ****ed. Engage with the fanbase, build strong relationships, and when we lose you won't see thousands no longer turning up. We've been shit for years, and we still had decent average ate dances, clearing a winning team isn't the be all and end all.

Less arrogance, more transparency, Moore backing up the words with actions from off the field might actually help.

Just look at the way they have handled Roundabout this week.

Fair enough release him
Fair enough not play him and give someone who may be here next year a go.

But FFS don't lie about why he is not playing particularly when the player is not a happy camper with the club.

Call a spade a spade. People can at least respect it even if they don't agree with it.


Not much different to the Flores situation.

Just tell the truth or take responsibility for a ****ing decision that the club has made FFS

[plague]

To be fair though the Jets telling lies ain't nothing new.

Has Terry Venables signed yet?

[hawk]

Tinks spouting diarrhea in an attempt to retrieve membership for next season. No-one can take this.

I bet there will be several potential top class players on the way between now and when tix go on sale next season

[lquiquer]

Imagine if they just chose them randomly as people walked into the ground.

Imagine if they picked me by mistake:rof:


I think I would have upset the prick
You would have got more hit on FB/twitter you name it than Psy and his Gangnam Style.. :lulzturtle:

[lquiquer]

Just look at the way they have handled Roundabout this week.

Fair enough release him
Fair enough not play him and give someone who may be here next year a go.

But FFS don't lie about why he is not playing particularly when the player is not a happy camper with the club.

Call a spade a spade. People can at least respect it even if they don't agree with it.


Not much different to the Flores situation.

Just tell the truth or take responsibility for a ****ing decision that the club has made FFS

That's the best summary of our season (and I blame the Muppet for that): At any stage of the season a spade has been called a spade..... Spot on Member, because that is what upset me the most.......

[lquiquer]

Tinks is a bogan.... Stop talking about him

[furns]

Thought they may have been committee members. Obviously not. Wonder how they were chosen.

Not sure, although Jeterpool was chosen and is a sub-committee member. I was also contacted, however I wasn't going to make it to Newcastle in time for the taping.

[borat]

I have it on good authority Neville will be seriously considering his future at the club and it will have nothing to do with anything other than our failure of a coach

I know of another player who will also probably ask to have his contract ripped up just to get out.


The only delusion rests with you that there are players prepared to do whatever it takes to get out

Comprehension isn't your strongest suit now is it champ. If you actually read what I posted, it was that although I am sure Nev wants to leave, it won't be to Perth on min wage.

[MFKS]

Apparently we have signed Jess Van Gypo as our goal keeping coach next year. Posted on the clubs sites today not that anyone gives a ****.

Seems to have dropped the player component so I take it he has his certs now or typical Jets bullwhip??



I would have thought if the club is moving forward and all that hogwash we would sign the best coach for this role we can.

Not some rookie with no ****ing certs who was picked up on the cheap to plug a ****ing hole midseason


Typical Jets

[Footyhead]

I have it on good authority Neville will be seriously considering his future at the club and it will have nothing to do with anything other than our failure of a coach

I know of another player who will also probably ask to have his contract ripped up just to get out.
Who is the other player?

[MFKS]

Who is the other player?

At this stage pleading the 5th on that


Shit will be going down on this subject one way or another in the next fortnight anyway. It is best that I let it happen and take its natural course.

When it does go down as I expect I will fill you in

[Footyhead]

At this stage pleading the 5th on that


Shit will be going down on this subject one way or another in the next fortnight anyway. It is best that I let it happen and take its natural course.

When it does go down as I expect I will fill you in
"Like sands through the hourglass..."

[belchardo]

Apparently we have signed Jess Van Gypo as our goal keeping coach next year. Posted on the clubs sites today not that anyone gives a ****.

Seems to have dropped the player component so I take it he has his certs now or typical Jets bullwhip??



I would have thought if the club is moving forward and all that hogwash we would sign the best coach for this role we can.

Not some rookie with no ****ing certs who was picked up on the cheap to plug a ****ing hole midseason


Typical Jets

FFA grants don't cover coaching staff, tinks does.

[hawk]

Comprehension isn't your strongest suit now is it champ. If you actually read what I posted, it was that although I am sure Nev wants to leave, it won't be to Perth on min wage.

lol, perth recruiting

[belchardo]

did my bit and filled in the member survey. I was as complimentary as I could be.

[GazFish35]

dont be complimetntary, be honest

[De-Champ]

Van Stratten has been signed as our goalkeeping coach. Thinking he has a bit to offer. Worked with Buffon for a long time.

Don't know about that. Juve loaned him out for most of the years he was/was not there

[joel31]

dont be complimetntary, be honest
I was. Gave 1;s, 2's and 3's in many departments. Can't remember giving higher than 7.

[goaliepersempre]

Don't know about that. Juve loaned him out for most of the years he was/was not there

youth training here, was with one of the best coaches in the country... Even being loaned out at some stage he was still there for a while and under the eyes of the coaching staff at juve...

Lets give him a chance...

[belchardo]

I was. Gave 1;s, 2's and 3's in many departments. Can't remember giving higher than 7.

god, what did you give a 7? don't think i got above 5 (admittedly, as a non-ticketed member there was a lot of stuff that didn't apply to me)

[GazFish35]

Not really "daily" but the 'behind the game' podcast which is usually pretty poor audio has a good episode with ben oneil the jets media manager.

I'm nearly through it, and if you can ignore the CCM stuff it's a great listen.

Oh, and Furns, he says that old mate phil never refuses a media interview. Hit him up for the podcast.

[joel31]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3027080/last-chance-to-nail-new-jets-contracts/?cs=306
We tried to get Holman and he said no way

[joel31]

god, what did you give a 7? don't think i got above 5 (admittedly, as a non-ticketed member there was a lot of stuff that didn't apply to me)
Think it was event staff or something like that. Gave the seccos a 2 or 3 though

[stopper2]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3027080/last-chance-to-nail-new-jets-contracts/?cs=306
We tried to get Holman and he said no way

How naive is our CEO if he thinks this club can attract an ex-Socceroo like Holman. Every player agent in this country will be giving this club a wide berth as long as Stubbins is the coach and until they see some real positive progress on Tinkler's part in bringing some proffesionalism and stability to the club. Lets face it Boogaard and Mullen have only signed on because they are pretty much certain starters in the first XI for next year, Mullen's career in particular was at a crossroads at WSW so really he has got nothing to lose in signing for the Jets.

[OmeletteDuFromage]

How naive is our CEO if he thinks this club can attract an ex-Socceroo like Holman. Every player agent in this country will be giving this club a wide berth as long as Stubbins is the coach and until they see some real positive progress on Tinkler's part in bringing some proffesionalism and stability to the club. Lets face it Boogaard and Mullen have only signed on because they are pretty much certain starters in the first XI for next year, Mullen's career in particular was at a crossroads at WSW so really he has got nothing to lose in signing for the Jets.

Everyone has a go at the club for not trying to sign big name players. Now we try, you bag the CEO.

yea ok

[stopper2]

Everyone has a go at the club for not trying to sign big name players. Now we try, you bag the CEO.

yea ok

Just being realistic, someone like Holman will not come here, we had an ordinary reputation as it was but especially since the goings-on since January, our club is tainted like no other club in the A League.....do you want me to sugarcoat it for you any more???

[Jetmaster]

If they have the money, they will come. Holman would've rejected the offer because of the Qatari cash he is getting now.

Jets management will negotiate with players agents and outline their "vision" and desire to get some experienced heads on board to turn things around and make the Jets the club it should be. You never know who they might convince - again, if they have the money. And not to say that it will happen, but that is the spiel they will be throwing around.

We to face the fact that Tinks/Stubbs will be here for a while yet and I'm happy for them to make a play for anybody - just no need to leak it to the media though. Just surprise us.

[pv4]

dont be complimetntary, be honest

I found it extremely unfair to the players that for certain questions in the survey, they grouped the players and coaching staff together. So I used the extra comments at the end to voice my real opinion on the matter.

tl;dr - I wrote that if Phil Stubbins is coaching again next year, I'm not renewing my membership. I hope many others do similar, and that the message is in black and white for the club.

[lquiquer]

I found it extremely unfair to the players that for certain questions in the survey, they grouped the players and coaching staff together. So I used the extra comments at the end to voice my real opinion on the matter.

tl;dr - I wrote that if Phil Stubbins is coaching again next year, I'm not renewing my membership. I hope many others do similar, and that the message is in black and white for the club.

Just completed the survey and gave them a mouthful in the extra comment section....:soapbox:

[Jetmaster]

Looking forward to the extended choice in members seating with the plastic fans bailing.

[stopper2]

If they have the money, they will come. Holman would've rejected the offer because of the Qatari cash he is getting now.

Jets management will negotiate with players agents and outline their "vision" and desire to get some experienced heads on board to turn things around and make the Jets the club it should be. You never know who they might convince - again, if they have the money. And not to say that it will happen, but that is the spiel they will be throwing around.

We to face the fact that Tinks/Stubbs will be here for a while yet and I'm happy for them to make a play for anybody - just no need to leak it to the media though. Just surprise us.

Had to laugh at that last line "Just surprise us".....reminds me of when I ask my young bloke what does he want for breakfast and he replies...."Surprise me!!!"

There will be no surprise, just the same old bullshit!

[MFKS]

Someone Send me a link for this survey FFS


Someone needs to be told

[Thomas477]

Good to see the banner police haven't gotten to you yet Member :p

[MFKS]

Good to see the banner police haven't gotten to you yet Member :p

Changed my flight home on Saturday so am now on the middayish one so probably be with the team.

Fingers crossed I am sitting next to the Muppet:rof:

[Thomas477]

Changed my flight home on Saturday so am now on the middayish one so probably be with the team.

Fingers crossed I am sitting next to the Muppet:rof:

:thumbsup:

[lquiquer]

Fingers crossed I am sitting next to the Muppet:rof:

:lulzturtle:but then you might be on your way to Adelaide!!?

[joel31]

Someone Send me a link for this survey FFS


Someone needs to be told
http://iquestion.completemr.com/Q292081/?camefrom=EMCL_604759_26371990

[westjet]

'I hope you get cancer and die': Newcastle Jets owner Nathan Tinkler under investigation for abusing reporter

Andrew Webster
Chief Sports Writer, The Sydney Morning Herald


"I hope you get cancer and die."

That is the alleged remark from Nathan Tinkler during a 15-minute rant at Newcastle Herald reporter Robert Dillon that has the controversial Newcastle Jets owner under investigation.

Tinkler is set to be issued with a show-cause notice by Football Federation Australia following a post-match meltdown after spying Dillon in the bowels of Hunter Stadium following the agonising 4-3 loss to Sydney FC last Friday night.


Dillon last year won a prestigious Walkley award for sports journalism for his extensive coverage of Tinkler's fall from grace as billionaire owner of the Newcastle Knights and Jets, and the failed racing and breeding operation Patinack Farm.


Tinkler spent much of Friday night's match on the hill with Jets fans, posing for selfies and enjoying a beer. After full-time, though, his mood became much darker when he spotted Dillon typing up his match report in the press conference room on the ground floor of the stadium.

According to witnesses, Tinkler made a beeline for Dillon, and then on several occasions referred to him as "spreading the cancer", that he was "a cancer", that The Newcastle Herald was "a cancer", before remarking that "I hope you get cancer and die".

One witness said: "This was a totally impromptu and unrelenting attack on the journalist, who was subject to a torrent of abuse on a scale and ferocity I have not witnessed. Nathan did not back down from his stance and his expressions grew progressively more profane, with a particular focus on denigrating Dillon and his newspaper as a 'cancer'. It was clear this was several years of pent up frustration being released in a single, furious tirade."

When a Jets official tried to intervene, Tinkler brushed him aside and kept going.

For his part, Dillon was more than prepared to cop the tirade. Journalists need to be prepared to get as good as they give, and the experienced Dillon did so. The complaint to FFA did not come from Dillon or The Newcastle Herald. But Tinkler's outburst clearly went too far, and it has continued to echo throughout the week.

The FFA is suitably unimpressed. Although head office was making no comment about the incident publicly, it is understood to be putting the finishing touches on a show-cause notice for misconduct.

Since Friday night, Dillon and Tinkler have been in contact. The fallen mining magnate was said to be conciliatory, but to suggest he had apologised is a bridge too far.

"Since Friday evening I have moved to clear the air with journalist Robert Dillon," Tinkler said. "We have communicated via e-mail and telephone and agreed to meet for lunch within the next two weeks with a view to building a more amicable working relationship. Our conversation last week was intended to be private, and was one in which I expressed my views that the Newcastle Jets, The Herald and the City of Newcastle are all stronger if we work together. Comments were made in the heat of the moment which Robert and I have discussed and moved on from."

Tinkler and The Newcastle Herald – which is owned by Fairfax Media, publishers of The Sydney Morning Herald – have been butting heads for years, with his Hunter Sports Group shutting local reporters out for simply writing about his downfall.

This is just another episode in the melodrama surrounding the former Muswellbrook sparkie. He's called the "Boganaire", but he remains an intriguing character nonetheless.

Despite the continual uncertainty around his sporting interests, he remains steadfast about his belief that he has the Hunter's best interests at heart.

"I've always been about this Newcastle and Hunter community," he said less than a week ago. "I've always thought it deserved better than what it's got and I want to try to help it win. I've been like a duck in the pond; I've been calm on top of the water and pedalling like nothing else under it, trying to help this club get stabilised."

All class
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/i-hope-you-get-cancer-and-die-newcastle-jets-owner-nathan-tinkler-under-investigation-for-abusing-reporter-20150423-1mrlzs.html

[plague]

The line in the middle of the article says it all.
Journos have to cop it as they dish it out in spades.
No one seemed to care when Fergie did similar things for decades.
no problem here.
Move on.

[WolfMan]

Had to laugh at that last line "Just surprise us".....reminds me of when I ask my young bloke what does he want for breakfast and he replies...."Surprise me!!!"

There will be no surprise, just the same old bullshit!

Still talking about breakfast???

[pv4]

Journos must genuinely love when stuff like that happens to them. They just hit record on their phones or whatever, and just see them headlines being printed over and over. What I don't think Tinkler and any other person ever to publicly speak out at journos understands is those attacks actually mean sfa to the journos, and all they see is a chance to write more articles and increase their rep every where. So Dillon was probably stoked with the outcome of all this.

[plague]

Journos must genuinely love when stuff like that happens to them. They just hit record on their phones or whatever, and just see them headlines being printed over and over. What I don't think Tinkler and any other person ever to publicly speak out at journos understands is those attacks actually mean sfa to the journos, and all they see is a chance to write more articles and increase their rep every where. So Dillon was probably stoked with the outcome of all this.

Exactly.
I loved the part about "Dillon didn't make the complaint he understands how it works blah blah blah" when it's obvious that Dillon was on the blower 3 sec after it happened to get his workmate to ghost write it for him.

[MFKS]

I stayed there for a fair bit after FT

Tinker was on the ground with Muppet for ages

Then walked down tunnel

Must have been 100 tops when I walked out

I am not disputing Tinker abusing Dillon but it surely hasn't happened the way the story has been told.

If he spotted him he could easily walked through grandstands to give him spraying

[Premy]

I stayed there for a fair bit after FT

Tinker was on the ground with Muppet for ages

Then walked down tunnel

Must have been 100 tops when I walked out

I am not disputing Tinker abusing Dillon but it surely hasn't happened the way the story has been told.

If he spotted him he could easily walked through grandstands to give him spraying

What are you smoking Member?
Since when has the Press Conference Room been visible to anywhere you would have been able to see

[Grimario]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3033348/no-farewell-match-for-caravella/?cs=2439


JETS chief executive Mitchell Murphy has vehemently denied that Zenon Caravella’s unsanctioned interview last week cost him a farewell game with the club.

The Jets confirmed last week that the 32-year-old would not be re-signed, after 45 games for Newcastle, 20 of them this season.

But any hopes of an amicable separation dwindled when the midfielder spoke to FourFourTwo website in an interview that apparently blindsided Newcastle’s powers-that-be, who had intended to break the news of his departure with their own statement.

In a question-and-answer format, Caravella expressed his support for five teammates dumped mid-season and queried if his relationship with coach Phil Stubbins was ‘‘irreparable’’ after he rejected the chance to assume the club captaincy. The Herald was told that, in response to the interview, a Jets official advised Caravella that he was not in Stubbins’ plans for the final two games of the season and was welcome to part company with the club immediately, if he chose to.

Both Murphy and Stubbins denied on Thursday that Caravella had been overlooked for Friday’s clash with Brisbane at Suncorp Stadium for speaking his mind.

‘‘As speculated by the media, it is absolutely false to suggest that Zenon has not been selected for disciplinary reasons for our final game of the campaign against Brisbane Roar," Murphy said.

"Unfortunately for Zenon, he was out injured when we caused the upset of the season against Melbourne Victory.

"For continuity and an eye on the future, we have opted to stick with the squad that has performed exceptionally well in our two previous games.

"We respect and appreciate Zenon's contribution to the club since joining us mid-season and wish him all the very best for the future."

Stubbins, who said this week that he had "not closed the door on anyone" with regards to his final-round line-up, said he had not selected Caravella because he wanted to retain the squad who lost 4-3 to Sydney last week in a cliff-hanger.

"The reward is that the boys played quite well, albeit we didn't get over the top of Sydney with a win, but the boys that took part have done a good enough job to get the nod again," Stubbins said.

Asked if Caravella's interview had any bearing on his decision, Stubbins replied: "It's the same squad that's travelling up. That's what happens when you get a competitive squad. Players get opportunities to come in and play well, and if they do a very good service, there's no reason why we change things.

"And that's pretty much an answer to your question."

Caravella, who is weighing up whether to continue his 147-game A-League career, wished his teammates all the best in a game they must win to avoid the wooden spoon.

"Disappointed not to be selected for our final game against Brisbane Roar," he said on Facebook. "Would have loved to have one last game with my mates in a Newcastle Jets shirt after three seasons.

"But I've been around long enough to know - that's football. Wishing the boys all the best, and hope we finish off the season with a bang."

Meanwhile, Stubbins said he hoped to be in a position next week to tell a host of off-contract players if the Jets intend to retain their services.

Newcastle's free agents include Ecuadorean striker Edson Montano, Serbian import Enver Alivodic, Taylor Regan, Nick Cowburn, Sam Gallagher, Travis Cooper, Allan Welsh, Max Burgess and the injured James Virgili (ankle).

So, Caravella now joined mid-season and Stubbins hasn't closed the door on anyone. Someone better tell Carney that he can still play for us because I don't know if he is aware the door is still open.

What a crock of shite this club is.

[Footyhead]

As if the last game of this season is going to make any difference to next year's quest... saying they want to reward the younger players, maintain continuity with an eye to the future... what an insult to the fans and to Caravella. I have previously said some unkind things about him, but his service to the club deserves one last game and send-off.
There's a lot to be said about a person's demeanour as well... roundabout's FB page indicates he has good character and ethics.
But then Griff never got a decent send off either, or the other players that were sacked.
Sick of the Jets management spitting out shit like this.

[hawk]

All class
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/i-hope-you-get-cancer-and-die-newcastle-jets-owner-nathan-tinkler-under-investigation-for-abusing-reporter-20150423-1mrlzs.html

im backing Tinks on this

Dillon is the type who loves to spout the downfall of everything but his aids ridden Knights. sh1t journo who only ever got an award from corrupt judges

[hawk]

Both Murphy and Stubbins denied on Thursday that Caravella had been overlooked for Friday’s clash with Brisbane at Suncorp Stadium for speaking his mind.

hey Body, can stop the Murphy ass kissing now

[Grimario]

All class
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/i-hope-you-get-cancer-and-die-newcastle-jets-owner-nathan-tinkler-under-investigation-for-abusing-reporter-20150423-1mrlzs.html

Update...

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3034460/nathan-tinkler-officially-cited-by-ffa/?cs=305


JETS owner Nathan Tinkler has until Friday to make a submission after the A-League's governing body cited him over allegedly breaching its code of conduct.

The FFA released a statement on Friday confirming the citing, which was reported earlier in the day.

"Tinkler has been asked to explain certain conduct he is alleged to have engaged in after the conclusion of the official post-match press conference for the Hyundai A-League Round 26 match between the Newcastle Jets and Sydney FC on 17 April 2015," the FFA statement said.

Potential sanctions include a repimand, a fine or even a ban from entering a stadium.

Mr Tinkler has until 5pm next Friday, May 1, to make a submission.

[Premy]

Richard Bayliss just said Zac Anderson could be heading up the F3 next season.

[Hunter403]

Richard Bayliss just said Zac Anderson could be heading up the F3 next season.

Who?

[Tommyjet]

Richard Bayliss just said Zac Anderson could be heading up the F3 next season.

Bit of a pretty boy, not sure what to make of it. Would it be at the expense of Taylor Reagan? That's the big question

[Premy]

Who?
Some dirty Gypo

[Premy]

Bit of a pretty boy, not sure what to make of it. Would it be at the expense of Taylor Reagan? That's the big questionYeah with Mullen, Boogard and Regan I can't see him wanting to come here.
I feel that Kanta could be slotted back into a CB as 4th choice for depth there.

[Jeterpool]

I tell you all we're going for 3 at the back if that's the case. Called it months ago

[Tommyjet]

I tell you all we're going for 3 at the back if that's the case. Called it months ago

I reckon your right, every time I think about that tho I slap myself and try to think of something else. Maybe muppet should try that

[Tommyjet]

I don't think a back 3 would suit alivodic if he signs

[MFKS]

Rumour had it reegz is gonna be axed

[weston]

Rumour had it reegz is gonna be axed

I've been thinking this for a few weeks now and to be honest i'm really disappointed. I like Regan, just not as a midfielfer.

[Tommyjet]

To be honest, I think Taylor has been more consistent and marginally better than Mullen

[Mark325]

I don't think a back 3 would suit alivodic if he signs

I was off the belief he has also played as an attacking mid in the past, so if we resort to a back 3 I'd think we slot him into there

[GazFish35]

He's probably not a yes man. So footballing ability doesn't come into it.

[hawk]

He's probably not a yes man. So footballing ability doesn't come into it.

yep. Stubbins only plays ass kissers.

Reegz can see right through that prick.

[Grimario]

Update...

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3034460/nathan-tinkler-officially-cited-by-ffa/?cs=305

Update...

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3034761/sporting-declaration-why-tinklers-tirade-is-a-matter-of-opinion/


‘‘YOU should have told him where to go.’’

That is the advice Sporting Declaration received from more than one confidant in the aftermath of a robust ‘‘conversation’’ I had with Jets owner Nathan Tinkler eight days ago.

But such thoughts never entered my head. And that is not because I felt remotely intimidated or worried about inflaming the situation.

My only real concern was that I was right on deadline, trying to file my match report after Newcastle’s 4-3 loss to Sydney, and that there were other journalists in the room in the same situation.

Other than the untimely delay it caused, Tinkler’s tirade did not faze me one bit. Water off a duck’s back.

My attitude is that the one-time billionaire is as entitled to his opinion as I am to mine.

Repeatedly over the past four or five years I have written news stories and comment pieces that criticised him or his teams, sometimes harshly. I can understand why that annoys him. I’d be surprised if it didn’t.

I call it as I see it, and if I wasn’t willing to cop a taste of my own medicine on occasion, I don’t deserve the privilege of being able to express my viewpoint in this newspaper.

So when I looked up from my desk last week and saw Tinkler entering the media conference room underneath Hunter Stadium, I had a fair idea what to expect.

This was a moment that was perhaps inevitable.

Despite writing dozens of stories about Tinkler, I have only ever spoken to him twice, briefly, most recently in 2011.

I hadn’t seen him in the flesh since the ICAC hearings almost 12 months ago.

But at some point, somewhere, we were always likely to cross paths, and when we did, it was never likely to be a joyous reunion.

I don’t intend to repeat what Tinkler said in the space of 15 rather surreal minutes last week.

As far as I’m concerned, that was between him and me.

Unfortunately there were witnesses in the room, including journalists, and it was no surprise when the Sydney Morning Herald’s Andrew Webster contacted me about the matter.

I made it quite clear to Webster I considered the whole episode off the record, but when he told me that Football Federation Australia was in the process of issuing Tinkler a ‘‘show cause’’ notice, I accepted he had an obligation to report it as a news story, which was also printed in this paper.

I then emailed Tinkler to explain I had not raised the issue with FFA, let alone complained.

He called me soon after and we spoke for probably 15 minutes. We agreed to keep the lines of communication open and possibly meet in the near future.

Some may wonder if I’m getting soft in my old age.

The bottom line is that Tinkler’s opening gambit last Friday was to query why I was ‘‘the only bloke who doesn’t ask for an interview’’ when he is in town.

I replied that I assumed he would not speak to me, given that for a long time I was blackbanned by his Hunter Sports Group underlings.

But if his attitude has changed, if he is suddenly willing to discuss awkward subjects, then he should be entitled to that opportunity.

That would certainly represent a step forward. One of the major failings of Hunter Sports Group was that too often the powers-that-be refused to answer questions.

They appeared to believe they were unaccountable, but if Tinkler has decided he is now willing to face media scrutiny, he deserves a chance to present his side of any story.

Moreover, if he is genuine about resurrecting the Jets and is capable of meeting his financial obligations, perhaps some faith and support is not unwarranted.

In saying that, many will be dubious. He can’t expect a clean slate while ever there are creditors chasing him in the courts, players waiting for superannuation, or unresolved ICAC allegations.

Five years ago, it was easy for Novocastrians to believe in Nathan Tinkler.

Nowadays, they are sceptical.

Talk is cheap. He will have to win them back by proving he can honour his promises. Repairing his image will not be a quick fix, just as his decline in popularity did not happen overnight.

My own opinion of him has not changed one iota after the incident last week. It is not as if I was traumatised or resent his comments. I could have left the room if I felt offended.

If FFA officials, who have now cited Tinkler, see fit to sanction him, then I have no input into that process.

Do I think he should be punished?

Well, if that happens, I would say he has nobody to blame but himself. Alternatively, if he is let off with a reprimand, I won’t be whinging about soft justice.

It’s not my problem, either way.

Whatever the outcome, my guess is Tinkler has already learned a lesson, of sorts.

And in his own idiosyncratic way, he certainly provided this columnist with food for thought.

[Jeterpool]

Good to see the Herald followed up Tinkler's response to my question the other night. Sounds like we might have been fed some lies!

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3035699/eland-denies-tinklers-talk-on-emerging-jets/?cs=306