Daily Australian News Thread 2015

[MFKS]

The salary cap wasn't being questioned until the Perth thing, and even then, the scrutiny has been on how Sydney and MV are hamstrung according to Bozza and fellow pundits on Fox.

Makes you wonder.
Good point.

To say Victory and Smurfs are hamstrung by the Salary Cap is just plain wrong. The way it is set up actually favours them over other clubs anyway. If we went to no salary cap it was also favour them more.

My issue is more so the belief that all is fair and even under the salary cap when it ain't.

If we are gonna have a salary cap it should be even across the board. No marquees no extra allowances no nothing. Clubs get $x to spend on 23 players and we go from there. Either that or just **** the whole thing off now and go down the road of La Liga and have a 2 team league.

The current situation is doing no one any favours except for Sydney and Melburn clubs as it gives them 2 quality marquees a talented young socceroo head start over the other clubs and then they have to jam 20 blokes into the roster with $2.55million whilst other clubs are spending $2.55 million tops on 23 players (except Perth:rof:) unless they can find some extra coin to spend on marquees when full well they can not compete at the level the Melburn and Sydney teams do and can only look at limiting the damage

[Jeterpool]

Good point.

To say Victory and Smurfs are hamstrung by the Salary Cap is just plain wrong. The way it is set up actually favours them over other clubs anyway. If we went to no salary cap it was also favour them more.

My issue is more so the belief that all is fair and even under the salary cap when it ain't.

If we are gonna have a salary cap it should be even across the board. No marquees no extra allowances no nothing. Clubs get $x to spend on 23 players and we go from there. Either that or just **** the whole thing off now and go down the road of La Liga and have a 2 team league.

The current situation is doing no one any favours except for Sydney and Melburn clubs as it gives them 2 quality marquees a talented young socceroo head start over the other clubs and then they have to jam 20 blokes into the roster with $2.55million whilst other clubs are spending $2.55 million tops on 23 players (except Perth:rof:) unless they can find some extra coin to spend on marquees when full well they can not compete at the level the Melburn and Sydney teams do and can only look at limiting the damage

I think they are hamstrung in a way. It limits what they can spend inside the cap for squad players but can only have 3 outside. It allows them to get ahead but not ahead as a free-for-all. It's not equal by any stretch but it's not also a Spain-style either.

I'm for the marquee style too.

How do the US manage their salary cap?

[Grimario]

**** the salary cap off.

[MFKS]

I think they are hamstrung in a way. It limits what they can spend inside the cap for squad players but can only have 3 outside. It allows them to get ahead but not ahead as a free-for-all. It's not equal by any stretch but it's not also a Spain-style either.

I'm for the marquee style too.

How do the US manage their salary cap?

Yanks initially had the USA Football mob sign all the players and then divvy them up to the clubs. I believe a fair amount of that still goes on for the lesser lights
Exactly how it works now with the big name signings like Beckham Stevie G Villa Kaka etc and how they are funded I am not sure.

[The Dunster]

The MLS used to publish a report with all players salaries. I would love to see that happening in the A-League as it might make the market for players contestible if the smaller clubs at least know what they are up against with respect to what the bigger clubs are supposedly paying for players. Because I cannot for the life of me work out how Victory are under the cap - or Sydney for that matter.

[WolfMan]

Yanks initially had the USA Football mob sign all the players and then divvy them up to the clubs. I believe a fair amount of that still goes on for the lesser lights
Exactly how it works now with the big name signings like Beckham Stevie G Villa Kaka etc and how they are funded I am not sure.

Most professional sports in America operate this way. Players sign contracts that are sanctioned by the governing body. This is why trading works so well over there. The player is only going to get the same amount of money as per his contract, no matter which team's jersey he wears

Actually not a bad thing to look at implementing here. Would allow for a more transparent movement of players around the league, and potentially less money-centric moves

[Grimario]

I think they are hamstrung in a way. It limits what they can spend inside the cap for squad players but can only have 3 outside. It allows them to get ahead but not ahead as a free-for-all. It's not equal by any stretch but it's not also a Spain-style either.

I'm for the marquee style too.

How do the US manage their salary cap?

The MLS is in trouble though. There is a massive push to abolish the salary cap, have free marked and install pro/rel.

Salary cap is a bogus external force that has no place in football. **** it off ASAP and let the team that can bring 40,000 to a home game sign better players than the tinpot clubs that can only manage 5-10k.

[plague]

Roar signed Berisha.
We paid way more for Heskey.

We make shit personnel decisions.

[plague]

The MLS is in trouble though. There is a massive push to abolish the salary cap, have free marked and install pro/rel.

Salary cap is a bogus external force that has no place in football. **** it off ASAP and let the team that can bring 40,000 to a home game sign better players than the tinpot clubs that can only manage 5-10k.

This.

[MFKS]

Roar signed Berisha.
We paid way more for Heskey.

We make shit personnel decisions.Comparing the contrast between the Jets and anyone is irrelevant in this debate. We are dumb ****s who **** everything up we touch. End of discussion. Lets just stick to discussing the 9 other clubs who ain't cluster****s like us

[Grimario]

Comparing the contrast between the Jets and anyone is irrelevant in this debate. We are dumb ****s who **** everything up we touch. End of discussion. Lets just stick to discussing the 9 other clubs who ain't cluster****s like us

Like Mariners? Or Wanderers? Or how about the shite at City? Or the not so shite but only because they broke the rules Glory?

[plague]

Comparing the contrast between the Jets and anyone is irrelevant in this debate. We are dumb ****s who **** everything up we touch. End of discussion. Lets just stick to discussing the 9 other clubs who ain't cluster****s like us

Nah cause you want to pass the clubs real problems onto the governing body to solve.
Sink or swim. Life's like that.

[plague]

Comparing the contrast between the Jets and anyone is irrelevant in this debate. We are dumb ****s who **** everything up we touch. End of discussion. Lets just stick to discussing the 9 other clubs who ain't cluster****s like us

Besides, we won the comp back when Syd and Melb had bigger populations than us.

Too many mongs out there got rid of Con and Remo and look where we ended up.

[MFKS]

Nah cause you want to pass the clubs real problems onto the governing body to solve.
Sink or swim. Life's like that.

As I said Either Salary Cap no additional lurks and perks or no salary cap.
I can handle either way.

Our club is ****ed due to incompetent management will not make a lick of difference.

As for my point about bringing the incompetence from Jets into this debate pointless. We are a cluster**** and would be ****ed either way. The rest of the other 8 clubs may have their issues to reach the top of the tree but they are easily solvable and they are in a position to do so. Us on the other hand have that many issues we ain't reaching the top of the tree in the next 3 years if ever until we rid ourselves of the incompetent management

[snake]

a free market system won't work in strayan football. if you have no cap, you can't have a floor, and the average strayan players are currently overpaid, protected by their bargaining agreement.

firdtly, the teams should have been established under a free market. to introduce after a delay doesn't make sense, since the small teams are at an inherent disadvantage here.

on a personal note, newy would be the firdt team relegated and would evaporate as an entity within weeks of the drop. the salary cap and the cushion of a fixed league system is the only reason the team still exists as a current entity.

whether you like it or not, the league is currently a foxtel summer driver of subscription, and is subsidised by them at a sustainable level. the league wouldn't exist without these protections.

furthermore, under a free system we would be playing out of the wanderers ground more befitting of our current fan-base without the costs associated with a premiere venue (but not pitch), which the club can't afford under the current system. not that there's anything wrong with that, but foxtel want a credible product (the league's raison d'etre) and that doesn't fit with full time use of a small field with limited facilities.

[plague]

Oh I'm all for a cap for the simple reason idiots at most clubs need to be protected from themselves.

Am also all for expanding the cap in areas that bring more Berishas and Kahlfallahs to our league.

If that's at the detriment of Newcastle in the short term then so be it, because one day they might get around to doing something about it rather than sitting on their hands complaining that life ain't fair.

[stopper2]

Heard from a couple of sources that the players are yet to be paid.
Can just imagine likes of Boogaard, Lee and Alivodic now thinking...."Shit, what I have I signed on for here!!!"

Please Tinkler just fark off and take your Muppet boy with you!!!

[Jeterpool]

Heard from a couple of sources that the players are yet to be paid.
Can just imagine likes of Boogaard, Lee and Alivodic now thinking...."Shit, what I have I signed on for here!!!"

Please Tinkler just fark off and take your Muppet boy with you!!!

Ah, processed today. Therefore going in overnight perhaps?

Still not right.

[Premy]

Oh I'm all for a cap for the simple reason idiots at most clubs need to be protected from themselves.
Nothing else on this topic needs to be said.

[Jeterpool]

Yep, agree.

I have an inkling that things are going to kick off again once the FFA are clear of the grand final. I can see them (the FFA) thinking "lets get to the end of the season and we'll take it from there".

As I keep saying, the FFA have a product to protect so they can get the best possible deal from fox with the tv rights for sale next year (is it next year?)

hmmm...will I be right.

I also wonder where this stands with regards to the players contracts. Has the inability to pay them made their contracts null and void? Can our players, like Perth's, now test the open market?

[belchardo]

hmmm...will I be right.

I also wonder where this stands with regards to the players contracts. Has the inability to pay them made their contracts null and void? Can our players, like Perth's, now test the open market?

they'd be stupid if they weren't having a look around.

[MFKS]

hmmm...will I be right.

I also wonder where this stands with regards to the players contracts. Has the inability to pay them made their contracts null and void? Can our players, like Perth's, now test the open market?

Other than Leaky G and Alivodic are there any under contract we can not really afford to lose???

Of the 10 left other than Neville and Lundy only cause they both fight the good fight I couldn't give a **** about any of them and would not bat an eyelid if they left.

[hawk]

Of the 10 left other than Neville and Lundy only cause they both fight the good fight I couldn't give a **** about any of them and would not bat an eyelid if they left.

massive plastic comment :(

[MFKS]

DEPARTING midfielder Zenon Caravella has implored Football Federation Australia to take over the Jets and help the club fulfil its potential.

Owner Nathan Tinkler is under intense pressure to retain the Jets after wages were not paid for a fifth day.

Club management said on Tuesday that "there was no definitive timeline" on when salaries and other outstanding entitlements would be honoured.

FFA has demanded that Tinkler pay his dues or risk having his licence withdrawn.

"Something needs to happen," a frustrated Caravella told the Herald.

"Whether the FFA comes in or another buyer comes in and puts Tinkler out of his misery. I don't believe he really wants to be here.

"As much as he is paying my wages, in the same breath you want to say, 'Don't be here if you don't want to. You are running the place into the ground. Don't come here and muck about with people's lives and a football club that takes a long time to establish.'

"Everyone is disillusioned, the players, the fans. Everyone.

"The fans can voice their frustration, the players can, too, but ultimately the FFA are the ones with the power.





See your ad here
"The FFA needs to come in and take over."

After 2½ seasons and 49 games for the Jets, Caravella was one of nine players told this month he would not be retained and is preparing to move his family home to Cairns.

Standard A-League contracts end on May 31, at which point all outstanding wages, superannuation and other entitlements are to be settled.

"I have not received superannuation for the past 2½ years," Caravella said.

"Are they going to compensate me for the interest missed? I highly doubt it."

Asked if he was fearful of not receiving his entitlements, Caravella said: "You feel anxious, for sure. You just don't know. Even older players like myself, living from month to month, it's hard.

"If you miss meeting your financial commitments by four days and you are overdrawn . . . the overdraft won't kill me, but it is the principle.

"I turn up to training every day on time and do what's required, be professional. The club has to do the same thing.

"For everyone else who is staying here, it needs to be sorted."

Other players the Herald spoke to expressed similar sentiments.

"I have major financial commitments that have to be met," one senior player said.

"Fortunately I have savings to cover the costs. I feel for the young boys who are living away from home. They are earning a wage, but they have to live for themselves and don't have a choice not to pay rent.

"It's not acceptable for wages to be late four months in a row."

Professional Footballers Australia has a "hardship fund" available to players for emergency situations.

"The PFA has been great," the player said. "They are very supportive of the players in situations like this."

Players have lost faith with club management.

"I'd rather just know if we are getting paid or not," a player told the Herald.

"I'm sick of the lies. I'd rather them be straight up if the money is going to be really delayed or we are not going to get paid. Then we know and can prepare. The decent thing to do is tell the truth."


Well in Zenon :thumbsup:

[MFKS]

massive plastic comment :(

On the contrary.

Neville and Lundy are the only two left in the squad who have the balls to stand up to the regime even if it effects their careers.
If I had a hat I would take it off to them.

The rest of them have not stood up for themselves or the fans to ensure we as a club are going in the right direction.

[stopper2]

Already seen some goose put up on twitter to ....."bring back Baartz, Zane and Bridges"
WTF is wrong with you people!!!
A big fat NO to Baartz and Bridges, both should not come anywhere near the club for various reasons.
Zane for probably the short term but yes maybe further down the track he should be considered for a role.

[MFKS]

Already seen some goose put up on twitter to ....."bring back Baartz, Zane and Bridges"
WTF is wrong with you people!!!
A big fat NO to Baartz and Bridges, both should not come anywhere near the club for various reasons.
Zane for probably the short term but yes maybe further down the track he should be considered for a role.

Which goose???

[Jeterpool]

Kanta set for another surgery according to the Herald this morning.

[Bon]

Kanta set for another surgery according to the Herald this morning.

Yeah they were saying on the radio that apparently he's going in for a double groin op??

[Jetmaster]

Already seen some goose put up on twitter to ....."bring back Baartz, Zane and Bridges"
WTF is wrong with you people!!!
A big fat NO to Baartz and Bridges, both should not come anywhere near the club for various reasons.
Zane for probably the short term but yes maybe further down the track he should be considered for a role.

Reckon you have a Bridges mania stopper, you can't stand him but intertwine him into 90% of your posts.

You need treatment - see somebody. There's one in New Lambton just round from Bridges Road.

[pv4]

Reckon you have a Bridges mania stopper, you can't stand him but intertwine him into 90% of your posts.

You need treatment - see somebody. There's one in New Lambton just round from Bridges Road.

I agree with Jetmaster - we should just completely ignore Bridges from now on.

[Jeterpool]

I agree with Jetmaster - we should just completely ignore Bridges from now on.

Caveat - Corner flag, holding it up in the corner or 6-8 weeks must also be mentioned.

[belchardo]

any word on whether anybody has been paid? where are everybody's sauces????

[stopper2]

Reckon you have a Bridges mania stopper, you can't stand him but intertwine him into 90% of your posts.

You need treatment - see somebody. There's one in New Lambton just round from Bridges Road.

Don't know where you get "90% of my posts about Bridges" but you are welcome to have a look at my history and find when I last mentioned him!!!

Sorry for expresing my opinion about him but he just isn't the great bloke his PR machine makes him out to be.

[stopper2]

any word on whether anybody has been paid? where are everybody's sauces????

Tinkler won't be pumping any more money into the Newcastle Jets so the next payment I assume will be when FFA gets things sorted out.

[plague]

Just saw Tinks at Cash Conveters with a bunch of old black and white kit and something that looked like the A-League trophy.

He might just pull this one out.

Caaaarrrrnnnnn Tinks.

[The Dunster]

Sorry for expresing my opinion about him but he just isn't the great bloke his PR machine makes him out to be.

Don't be sorry - He's a dog. I worked that out within about two seconds of hearing the shit he was talking at a youth v hamilton game. Blokes about as genuine as a three dollar bill.

[Hunter403]

According to ABC Jets are now in voluntary administration. He's goooooooooooooooooone!

[tomo]

According to ABC Jets are now in voluntary administration. He's goooooooooooooooooone!

Yep!
And sold to Dundee Utd for just under $5m

[MFKS]

Don't know where you get "90% of my posts about Bridges" but you are welcome to have a look at my history and find when I last mentioned him!!!

Sorry for expresing my opinion about him but he just isn't the great bloke his PR machine makes him out to be.
Firstly Stoppe2 don't ever apologise for expressing your thoughts on anyone. You feel the way you do about Bridges due to certain issues and that is fair enough.

Secondly PM Jetmaster sometime and fill him in on why you dislike Bridges so much. I wonder if his opinion would change too:rof:

[Shayne]

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/ffa-terminates-licence-of-newcastle-jets/1fpyhixur95rm10cicp1nuir74

Later Stinkler

[WolfMan]

Thank fvck

Now to remove Stubbins

[borat]

Thank fvck

Now to remove Stubbins

I reckon if the FFA hang on the the licence then Stubbins chances of of staying employed have improved dramatically. Dundee you would think would sack him, although would be interesting if Dundee was a destination on his european jaunt, Tinkler would sack hime after 8 rounds. But the FFA will run the club cheaply and Stubbins won't get sacked/

[The Camel]

I reckon if the FFA hang on the the licence then Stubbins chances of of staying employed have improved dramatically. Dundee you would think would sack him, although would be interesting if Dundee was a destination on his european jaunt, Tinkler would sack hime after 8 rounds. But the FFA will run the club cheaply and Stubbins won't get sacked/

He no longer has a contract so no cost to pay him out. FFA would be crazy to offer him a contract under the new entity.

[Guerny]

yep, there was ominously no mention of "staff" being offered contracts under the new entity in FFA's statement.

[borat]

He no longer has a contract so no cost to pay him out. FFA would be crazy to offer him a contract under the new entity.

Yep stand corrected. Posted that before I realised all old contracts are void.

[380]

He no longer has a contract so no cost to pay him out. FFA would be crazy to offer him a contract under the new entity.

I believe his situation is very similar to Wayne Bennetts at the time.

My understanding is his contract is with HSG. A contracted football coach to an organisation ( HSG ) that no longer participate an the HAL.

It is nothing short of what he deserves. *rick had nothing but contempt for all and sundry since the day he arrived here. His offsider can get lost also. His pleading ignorance in the last few weeks over contracts does not cut it either.

If i have this all ass up my apologies

[tomo]

I believe his situation is very similar to Wayne Bennetts at the time.

My understanding is his contract is with HSG. A contracted football coach to an organisation ( HSG ) that no longer participate an the HAL.

It is nothing short of what he deserves. *rick had nothing but contempt for all and sundry since the day he arrived here. His offsider can get lost also. His pleading ignorance in the last few weeks over contracts does not cut it either.

If i have this all ass up my apologies

I agree
Stubbins is contracted to HSG. Not the Jets. Effectively, Stubbins doesnt coach the Jets anymore as HSG doesnt own them!!!

[goaliepersempre]

Finally some good news!!!! now for rebuilding and bringing some better days back home in newy

[furns]

Griff is very happy on twitter

[tha_hauss]

Hi everyone, what'd I miss?

[WolfMan]

Griff is very happy on twitter

Aaron Kearney also taking the pi$$ on the twitters...

https://twitter.com/aaronkearneyaus/status/600944730629779456

[tha_hauss]

Lets hope the FFA can find a genuine owner/ownership model this time. No more quick fixes.

[lquiquer]

No words From Dundee United ?,,,,,,, Tinks the Grub was trying to buy time again!!!

[tomo]

No words From Dundee United ?,,,,,,, Tinks the Grub was trying to buy time again!!!

Tinkler put the club into administration, then tried to sell it n make a profit. Gallop is clearly smarter than him n took the licence back before the sale!

Dundee Utd still in the hot seat to take over

[Retro Jet]

Tinkler put the club into administration, then tried to sell it n make a profit. Gallop is clearly smarter than him n took the licence back before the sale!

Dundee Utd still in the hot seat to take over

Nope:- Only Thompson has interests.



Club Statement (http://dufc.co/news/club-statement-9/)

May 20, 2015

Following reports in the media suggesting the Club is in talks with Newcastle Jets, a Dundee United spokesperson said,
“Dundee United is not involved in talks with the Newcastle Jets, this is a personal venture for the Chairman as part of a consortium.

“Any involvement of Mr Thompson in this or any other venture is entirely his prerogative and the board, which he remains fully committed to,
is focussed purely on Dundee United FC delivering a positive end to the season and building for next season.”

[matty]

So out of pure speculation that dundee do buy us, would we go with the same orange and black or do we go for gold. Whats the thoughts on the direction we should go with the new club?

[Premy]

Nope:- Only Thompson has interests.
Yep that's why you know Tinks was full of shit Dundee was never interested in us it's Thompson. Tinks is a lying piece of shit that can't even get his facts straight.

[Premy]

So out of pure speculation that dundee do buy us, would we go with the same orange and black or do we go for gold. Whats the thoughts on the direction we should go with the new club?
Read above Dundee aren't interested in us it's Thompson.

[matty]

Pure speculation, weather it be dundee, thompson, juventus or redbull

[hawk]

So out of pure speculation that dundee do buy us, would we go with the same orange and black or do we go for gold. Whats the thoughts on the direction we should go with the new club?

tangerine is the best colour

[Premy]

tangerine is the best colour
I know a few Lancastrians that would be happy with Tangerine.

[MFKS]

tangerine is the best colour

I would tolerate a yellow and navy kit before we get that filthy ****ing colour.

Tangerine can **** off

[lquiquer]

I would tolerate a yellow and navy kit before we get that filthy ****ing colour.

Tangerine can **** off

You would tolerate a yellow and navy kit!!!! Are u on the juice again Member?.... :lol:

[MFKS]

You would tolerate a yellow and navy kit!!!! Are u on the juice again Member?.... :lol:

Why wouldn't I be??

Best day since 24-2-08:rof:

[MFKS]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3093147/rebuild-of-the-jets-to-begin/?cs=303

Do like the bit how all other positions are up for review.

May need to get everyone to start spamming FFA email and let them know who needs to be sacked

[Retro Jet]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3093368/from-hero-to-villain-how-tinklers-field-of-dreams-became-a-newcastle-nightmare/?cs=311

Dillon with some respectful words...believe it or not!
Posted 11:14pm

[hawk]

I would tolerate a yellow and navy kit before we get that filthy ****ing colour.

Tangerine can **** off

plastic coasty comment :blush:

[Jeterpool]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3093368/from-hero-to-villain-how-tinklers-field-of-dreams-became-a-newcastle-nightmare/?cs=311

Dillon with some respectful words...believe it or not!
Posted 11:14pm

Not a bad read

[Guerny]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/nathan-tinkler-newcastle-jets-former-owner-threatens-ffa-saying-this-could-get-ugly/story-e6frf423-1227362006629

Tinkler has at least come out saying "his" sale would be used to pay off his debts, FFA has not come out and said this yet.
I'm sure the FFA will happily take the license and keep the sell-on fee though.

[tha_hauss]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/nathan-tinkler-newcastle-jets-former-owner-threatens-ffa-saying-this-could-get-ugly/story-e6frf423-1227362006629

Tinkler has at least come out saying "his" sale would be used to pay off his debts, FFA has not come out and said this yet.
I'm sure the FFA will happily take the license and keep the sell-on fee though.

All his own doing. He still can't see/doesn't care how he has betrayed the Newcastle football community. The FFA only deals this way with renegade owners - Palmer, Con, Tinkler. They work with more reasonable owners.

The FFA will have all their ducks in a row and Tinkler will now fade out of the spotlight like Con did.

[Frodo]

All his own doing. He still can't see/doesn't care how he has betrayed the Newcastle football community. The FFA only deals this way with renegade owners - Palmer, Con, Tinkler. They work with more reasonable owners.

The FFA will have all their ducks in a row and Tinkler will now fade out of the spotlight like Con did.

FFA cares about Foxtel and no one else, they don't give a crap who they offend.

[Jeterpool]

FFA press conference at 4:00 today at Speers Point

[tomo]

Carney has came out and said he hopes FFA give Stubbins the flick aswell, because he's happy to play for the club next season but not under Stubbins!

[joel31]

FFA press conference at 4:00 today at Speers Point
how can we watch it

[belchardo]

how can we watch it

go to speers point.

[Tommyjet]

Sure there is a press conference?

[Jeterpool]

Sure there is a press conference?

That's what I was told

[Tommyjet]

That's what I was told

Nothing in the twittersphere

[Tommyjet]

https://twitter.com/nbnnews/status/601276956362027008

Stubbins is still the f@&king coach!!

[Mark325]

I'm confused by the retaining of all the coaching staff, wouldn't that be subject to change based on the new guy who own the club

[halo se7en]

I wouldn't have expected the FFA to do anything different right now. I wonder if they were placed on new short-term contracts?

[MFKS]

Here I was thinking I would have no reason to make banners anytime soon.

Tifo telling Muppet what we think coming up

[militiamon]

Hahaha this is ****ed if Stubbins and Co. are still around. I'll go back to not giving a shit again if true.

[380]

Sometimes we get the urge to do something we would not normally do but to come out and retain Stubbins so soon after WTF !

Below is my reply to the FFA on this rediculous decision.

" Attn : FFA



You make mention in the above listed article about membership. You are no chance of attaining past numbers whilst Stubbins remains.

Whoever advised the FFA on this decision got it very wrong indeed. You made reference in regards to the removal of Tinkler that part of the reason was the inexcusable continued late payments. Stubbins is on the record in an article in the Newcastle Herald just as recently as a couple of months ago supporting Tinkler with a such is life approach to the whole situation of late payments to his players and club staff. Yes he made excuses and went into bat for Tinkler.

It was at this point he lost what remained of the playing group. Don’t believe me then ask a player.

You had an opportunity to continue the positive outlook your decision to revoke the license has brought in recent days but sadly you have blown it with the retention of Stubbins.

Clearly whoever made this decision failed to gauge the sentiment around this club toward its current coaching staff, Jones excluded. "





They will not care but hey if enough demonstrate there dismay you never know eh ?.

[Tommyjet]

Ray GATT seems almost convinced stubbins won't be around.

[PC14]

Stubbins' position is still under review. No decision has been made.

[Tommyjet]

De bohun on the news saying decision hasn't been made regarding the coaching staff. A few I follow on twitter have heard that the FFA has been talking to other coaches.

[380]

For Christ sake i hope you blokes are right.

Even my 12yr old daughter said she would stop taking her e E reader thingy to the games once Stubbins is gone LOL.

[Mark325]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/05/21/pfa-slams-stubbins-jets-coach-vies-keep-his-job

PFA's having a bit of a go at him as well, no way this blokes keeping his job

[tomo]

Why wouldnt the FFA put out ads for people to apply for these coaching positions? If stubbins applies, pick someone someone else...
The coaches are employed by the HSG, the FFA have no obligation to retain the staff...

[tha_hauss]

"Our goal will be to have a new owner and chairman in place by the start of next season," De Bohun said.

Must have someone in the pipeline if they are putting a timeline on it.




While the players have been kept on and the staff paid for now, the coaches face a different path as the FFA undertakes a large-scale review of the club's operations.

"The coaching staff are still employed by Hunter Sports Group, they're not coming across at this point," De Bohun said.

Head coach Phil Stubbins was only given a lukewarm endorsement by de Bohun.

"I've spoken to Phil personally this morning, he's been on a mission from the previous owner of the club ... I have made it clear that we're stopping to reassess everything right now and get clear on what the future might hold."


http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/05/21/ffa-stands-firm-jets-licence-and-wants-new-owner-next-season

[380]

Lets hope luke warm eventuates into frozen out.

[Tommyjet]

I think the pfa article has almost put to bed the chance of stubbins staying on.

[MFKS]

Who is that **** from NBN spreading such shit on Twitter then??

Getting the natives of Newy all upset due to his shit house sauces

[Jeterpool]

Nothing in the twittersphere

Maybe so but I see it went ahead :)

[Onehunglow]

FFA press conference at 4:00 today at Speers Point

De Bohun, Mitchell Murphy Kyle Patterson and a few other suits looked like they were winding up a meeting at Speers Point at about 4.30 today. All Jets staff are now working from Speers Point. The Jets youth team ( NPL 1st grade) were finishing training about the same time on the synthetic pitches. NNSW have done well here IMO.

[MFKS]

De Bohun, Mitchell Murphy Kyle Patterson and a few other suits looked like they were winding up a meeting at Speers Point at about 4.30 today. All Jets staff are now working from Speers Point. The Jets youth team ( NPL 1st grade) were finishing training about the same time on the synthetic pitches. NNSW have done well here IMO.

See I told you it wouldn't take long and Jets would be doing their training at Speers Point at Northern New home

[Grimario]

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/channel-nine-keen-to-show-saturday-night-a-league-matches/story-fnk6pqhe-1227364095992


CHANNEL Nine wants to screen Saturday night A-League games and go head-to-head with the AFL on Seven.

Nine is favourite to take over SBS’s A-League rights as Seven’s interest is complicated by its AFL contract, with negotiations for the next deal already kicking off within a fortnight _ the current AFL deal expires at the end of 2016.

Despite an appetite for more live sports and a view that the A-League provides a cheap entry point, sources have indicated that Seven has been warned against putting live A-League games up against its Friday or Saturday night AFL coverage by the AFL.

Nine’s NRL broadcasts are restricted to Friday nights and Sunday afternoons, leaving a gap on Saturday nights.

But the kingmaker remains Fox Sports chief executive Patrick Delany, who effectively has to rubberstamp any movement on A-League rights.


Fox Sports pay 75 per cent of the current $40m-a-year deal _ which was due to expire in 2017 but has come back on the table with SBS’s desire to offload the A-League _ plus the Saturday night slot is the match of the round, and includes the Melbourne and Sydney derbys.

Fox have co-production deals with Seven and Nine for the AFL and NRL.

It’s believed that talks have centred around spreading the games between the FTA’s main and secondary channels.


David Carney calls for Newcastle Jets to change coach
David Carney calls for Newcastle Jets to change coach
Channel 10, which showed strongest interest when the latest deal was signed, may not be in a position to bid unless Foxtel’s mooted $85m injection occurs by the end of June.

Delay and FTA network heavyweights were guests at last Sunday’s A-League grand final at AAMI Park, and Bruce McWilliam (Seven, commercial director), Ian Paterson (GTV, managing director) and David Barham (Ten, head of sport) were all acknowledged by FFA chief executive David Gallop at a pre-game function.

Seven “maintained a polite silence on TV rights as always” when contacted by the Herald Sun, while Nine said it was “premature” to make any comment.

Seven is broadcasting the upcoming visits of English giants Chelsea and Tottenham, while Nine will show July’s International Champions Cup (ICC) featuring Real Madrid, Manchester City and Roma plus the Liverpool games.

Speaking before the A-League grand final, Gallop admitted that a deal was some way off despite clear interest.

“We’re in the second year of a four-year deal so if there was to be any change it would require everyone to agree,’’ Gallop said.

“We do have significant interest from commercial networks. We have seen a couple dip their toe in the water successfully with some of the overseas club visits, so all of that augurs well for the future.

“At this stage it’s encouraging to have that interest, but there’s nothing concrete in place.’’

The grand final drew a record FTA audience for an A-League game on SBS, with an average audience of 442,000 watching on a one-hour delay, while a further 264,000 watched it live on Fox Sports, the fourth-highest A-League audience.

[MFKS]

FOOTBALL Federation Australia chief executive David Gallop says Nathan Tinkler’s contribution to the Newcastle Jets will soon be ‘‘forgotten’’ by a Novocastrian community fed up with his business practices.

Tinkler’s four year and seven month tenure as Jets owner ended abruptly on Wednesday when FFA revoked his franchise licence, just hours after he placed the club into voluntary administration citing liabilities of $2.7million.

Tinkler then accused FFA of being ‘‘morally bankrupt’’ by forcing him out and threatened to launch legal action. But in an interview with the Newcastle Herald on Thursday, Gallop produced a scathing response, saying the man they call the ‘‘Boganaire’’ had sealed his own fate.

‘‘I have no doubt Nathan went into the ownership with all the right intentions, and even had outbreaks of wanting it to work in recent times,’’ Gallop said. ‘‘But it hasn’t.

‘‘Not paying wages, stadiums, training grounds, numerous trade creditors, owing millions in tax, owing superannuation for months – if you do it for long enough, maybe you start to convince yourself that it’s normal and even convince yourself that it’s right as an owner. It’s not normal or OK. The contributions he has made, however significant, will be forgotten quickly. The community expects better.

‘‘In a community like Newcastle, everyone knows the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker. If they don’t get paid, it has a ripple effect across the town.’’

Gallop, then the NRL’s chief executive, noted that he had been ‘‘sceptical’’ about Tinkler’s 2011 takeover of the Newcastle Knights and had been criticised at that time by former Hunter Sports Group chairman Ken Edwards.


‘‘For Newcastle and Nathan Tinkler, I always thought it was a bad move and bound to end in tears,’’ Gallop said.

In response to Tinkler’s ‘‘morally bankrupt’’ accusation, Gallop said: ‘‘We reject any suggestions along those lines. This has gone on for many months now, with a number of changes of direction. The level of debt continues to mount.’’

Gallop was unconcerned by Tinkler’s threat to sue.

‘‘Obviously we’ve had lawyers involved around the Jets situation for many months now,’’ he said.

Gallop said he sympathised with Jets chief executive officer Mitchell Murphy and predecessor Robbie Middleby, who too often had been dealing with disgruntled creditors.

‘‘We are supportive of Mitchell Murphy, but like Robbie Middleby, he can’t spend every day explaining to people that the cheque is in the mail,’’ he said.

Gallop declined to comment when asked whether the Jets’ liabilities were larger than the $2.7million figure Tinkler volunteered. The Herald understands the debt is more than $4.5million.

FFA will ensure that players and staff, who have been waiting seven days for their monthly pay, are paid Friday.

All 15 contracted players will be offered like-for-like contracts with the new Newcastle entity.

The positions of all coaches and the administrative staff, including Murphy, are under review.

Locked out of their training base at the University of Newcastle due to an unpaid $40,000 in hire fees, the Jets will now use the Northern NSW Football facility at Speers Point as their interim headquarters. FFA will sift through the Jets’ creditors to assess, on a case-by-case basis, who will be reimbursed.

‘‘That’s a big exercise that will take some time to get on top of,’’ Gallop said.

Gallop said many clubs had changed ownership over the history of the A-League and ‘‘transition usually produces a stronger club’’.
.

[MFKS]

JETS fans will be asked for their input as Football Federation Australia attempts to create a new, sustainable structure for Newcastle's A-League flagship.

After the financial failure of the one-owner model under Con Constantine and Nathan Tinkler, FFA officials are open to the prospect of a revamped business prototype for the Jets.

They plan to hold at least three community forums to brainstorm for ideas. The first will feature business leaders, the second Jets members and the third fans and the public.

"We thoroughly intend to conduct some forums across the community," FFA boss David Gallop told the Newcastle Herald on Thursday. "We're open to different models. But owning football clubs of any code in Australia means you need deep pockets, and you need the ability to access those pockets."













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Jets supporters have had little say in their club's management since Tinkler sacked the club's short-lived advisory board in 2012.

"Community engagement is critical," Gallop said. "It needs to be nurtured.

"We consider the Jets have a great opportunity with the large junior playing base they have, a sports-mad population and a great stadium to play out of.

"There is lots of blue sky in that community and we're confident we can get them back behind the Jets."





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Gallop said he felt that Newcastle would initially retain the team's colours and Jets logo, but added: "That would be a matter of debate for the new owner, and the community's view would play an important part in that decision."

The NRL has owned the Newcastle Knights in an interim capacity since it ousted Tinkler 11 months ago, content to bide its time for a suitable buyer.

Gallop was hopeful FFA would be able to relinquish control of the Jets by the time the next A-League season kicks off in October.

The role of Northern NSW Football will be crucial in the new model.

FFA's chief operating officer, John Kelly, and head of A-League Damien de Bohun were in Newcastle yesterday to meet with stakeholders.

Gallop said FFA would immediately consider expressions of interest, but "there is nothing imminent", despite speculation that the governing body had been in close contact with Scottish multimillionaire Stephen Thompson, who owns Scottish Premier League club Dundee United.

"The dialogue we've had with them has been to direct them to Nathan Tinkler," Gallop said.

"That's because he made it abundantly clear the club was not for sale
. Hopefully no plastic fans are allowed into these meetings

[GazFish35]

. Hopefully no plastic fans are allowed into these meetings

Member, it's the "plastics" that need to be engaged for any long term viability.

[GazFish35]

the new Newcastle entity

Sneak peak at our new name?

[MFKS]

Member, it's the "plastics" that need to be engaged for any long term viability.

Engaging the plastics for long term viability is an issue.

Engaging plastics to sort the core issues holding back our club is a big no no.

Stick to dealing with the passionate fans who stick by the club through thick and thin first. Their opinions are needed to be heard as that is where the intelligent comment will come from.

[tomo]

Sneak peak at our new name?

I read an article that said the name, colours and logo will remain the same

[tha_hauss]

Engaging the plastics for long term viability is an issue.

Engaging plastics to sort the core issues holding back our club is a big no no.

Stick to dealing with the passionate fans who stick by the club through thick and thin first. Their opinions are needed to be heard as that is where the intelligent comment will come from.

MFKS, it is lack of humility that is the core issue of what has always been wrong with the club.

"Fans don't know anything"
"You are not a better fan than me, just because you think you are "active""
"If you listen to the fans, you will end up sitting with them in the stands"

Mate, if this club is going to reach its potential, you have got to be open to people who are not like you.

Listen to what the "plastic fans" have to say.

To make my point clearer, in the 2006/07 season we had a layoff of 6 weeks between games due to the ground being re-sown with grass. on 12/11/06 14,000 people attended the game against the Mariners, on 1/1/07 20,900 showed up for the game against Sydney FC. The only difference between these two games was a media campaign that highlighted the excitement, passion and entertainment that was on show at Jets games. The end of that season saw a passion and electricity that I have never seen repeated.

Now, wouldn't you like to know what attracted those extra 7,000 people? Wouldn't you like them to show up again? To maybe want to show up every week? They aren't going to be attracted by the same thing that you are, because when a certain factor isn't there, they go back to their daily lives.

We need to be clear about all the elements of a successful club, because I want 20,000 people there every week.

If we are going to create a club that is open to the whole community, we need to whole of community involved from the start. No personal agendas.

[belchardo]

. Hopefully no plastic fans are allowed into these meetings

hopefully "fans" with attitudes like this aren't allowed into the meetings.

[MFKS]

MFKS, it is lack of humility that is the core issue of what has always been wrong with the club.

"Fans don't know anything"
"You are not a better fan than me, just because you think you are "active""
"If you listen to the fans, you will end up sitting with them in the stands"

Mate, if this club is going to reach its potential, you have got to be open to people who are not like you.

Listen to what the "plastic fans" have to say.

To make my point clearer, in the 2006/07 season we had a layoff of 6 weeks between games due to the ground being re-sown with grass. on 12/11/06 14,000 people attended the game against the Mariners, on 1/1/07 20,900 showed up for the game against Sydney FC. The only difference between these two games was a media campaign that highlighted the excitement, passion and entertainment that was on show at Jets games. The end of that season saw a passion and electricity that I have never seen repeated.

Now, wouldn't you like to know what attracted those extra 7,000 people? Wouldn't you like them to show up again? To maybe want to show up every week? They aren't going to be attracted by the same thing that you are, because when a certain factor isn't there, they go back to their daily lives.

We need to be clear about all the elements of a successful club, because I want 20,000 people there every week.

If we are going to create a club that is open to the whole community, we need to whole of community involved from the start. No personal agendas.


A core aim should always be to look after your existing fan (customer) and treat them well. If you are doing this well most of your problems don't appear
I totally disagree with this hell bent desire people have to engage the casual customer. It is always done at the expense of the existing core you have. The 5k who were showing up in the back end of last season are the ones we should be looking after first and foremost as they are there when the chips are down

You also keep bringing up humility as being an issue and I will return serve that loyalty is just as important an issue. Chasing the casual fan at the expense of the rusted on support is a huge issue as it shows a lack of respect to the existing fans

ALWAYS TREAT YOUR EXISTING CUSTOMERS BETTER THAN YOU TREAT YOUR NEW CUSTOMERS.
You manage to do this well and your new customers soon become existing customers.

From their loyalty grows

As for your jump in crowds in 2006-07 the ladder position of the side, them winning games and them playing exciting football are the only reasons for the spike. It is a bandwagon ride the club was on and those days don't last forever. Why you feel the need to go out and chase these people defies logic. They are not "PASSIONATE FOOTBALL" fans and are people who enjoy the good times and the latest fad. They jump on and off everything and at the time The Jets were the fad.

[plague]

Dang, I do not want to be in the room when someone tells the good Member that there was a time in his life that he wasn't a Jets fan and somehow became one.

[plague]

Actually screw it, let's just build a 5,000 seat stadium and pack the joint out each week with real fans.

Less work for admin trying to find new fans, less hassle for the elite fans like the Member having to rub shoulders with the great unwashed.

That's a win win right there folks.

[Premy]

Actually screw it, let's just build a 5,000 seat stadium and pack the joint out each week with real fans.

Less work for admin trying to find new fans, less hassle for the elite fans like the Member having to rub shoulders with the great unwashed.

That's a win win right there folks.Great idea

[BodyNovo]

Actually screw it, let's just build a 5,000 seat stadium and pack the joint out each week with real fans.

Less work for admin trying to find new fans, less hassle for the elite fans like the Member having to rub shoulders with the great unwashed.

That's a win win right there folks.

if they serve full strength beer, i'm in

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

From my experience passion doesn't always translate to intelligence. It tends to lead to a bit of tunnel vision and doesn't allow for balanced decision making. Members of the club should be consulted, but shouldn't have a role in club decision making. Leave it to people that know what they are doing ( hopefully the now exist/ are employed by a new entity)

[MFKS]

From my experience passion doesn't always translate to intelligence. It tends to lead to a bit of tunnel vision and doesn't allow for balanced decision making. Members of the club should be consulted, but shouldn't have a role in club decision making. Leave it to people that know what they are doing ( hopefully the now exist/ are employed by a new entity)

Don't just assume because I carry on like a raving lunatic on the foz :brrr: that I can't actually offer intelligent debate accept alternate views and have piles of whack job ideas I need to shove down peoples throats. :rof:

Nearly all our loyal fans who have stuck by the club and shown their passion for the cause this season have a fair idea what the issues are that consume the club.

[MFKS]

Actually screw it, let's just build a 5,000 seat stadium and pack the joint out each week with real fans.

Less work for admin trying to find new fans, less hassle for the elite fans like the Member having to rub shoulders with the great unwashed.

That's a win win right there folks.
Can we cut it down to 3k Capacity

I really want to be subjective as to making sure the better quality elite fans who really have earned their stripes are allowed in only :rof:

[The Camel]

A core aim should always be to look after your existing fan (customer) and treat them well. If you are doing this well most of your problems don't appear
I totally disagree with this hell bent desire people have to engage the casual customer. It is always done at the expense of the existing core you have. The 5k who were showing up in the back end of last season are the ones we should be looking after first and foremost as they are there when the chips are down

You also keep bringing up humility as being an issue and I will return serve that loyalty is just as important an issue. Chasing the casual fan at the expense of the rusted on support is a huge issue as it shows a lack of respect to the existing fans

ALWAYS TREAT YOUR EXISTING CUSTOMERS BETTER THAN YOU TREAT YOUR NEW CUSTOMERS.
You manage to do this well and your new customers soon become existing customers.

From their loyalty grows

As for your jump in crowds in 2006-07 the ladder position of the side, them winning games and them playing exciting football are the only reasons for the spike. It is a bandwagon ride the club was on and those days don't last forever. Why you feel the need to go out and chase these people defies logic. They are not "PASSIONATE FOOTBALL" fans and are people who enjoy the good times and the latest fad. They jump on and off everything and at the time The Jets were the fad.

What I cannot understand from your position is that you automatically assume that trying to engage the 'casual' fan is at the expense of your so called 'non plastic' fans.

Maybe it is just me but I would think that measures put it place that would make people want to come week in week out, instead of occasionally, would likely in turn benefit the people that already go as well.

Trying to understand why people don't consume your product is a massive part of developing a business. Just as important as keeping the existing users happy.

[lquiquer]

Actually screw it, let's just build a 5,000 seat stadium and pack the joint out each week with real fans.

Less work for admin trying to find new fans, less hassle for the elite fans like the Member having to rub shoulders with the great unwashed.

That's a win win right there folks.

If there's a pool I'm in :lulzturtle:

[pv4]

Something I read from all of yesterday was that the team would be using the Speers Point facility as their base until everything is sorted.

Which brings up the need for the Speers Point facility to have an in-built gym, again.

That place is absolutely perfect for a HAL team base - if a gym was added imo.

[Beeen]

Mid-strength out

[lquiquer]

Hyundai A-League ‏@ALeague · 30m30 minutes ago Hi @AlexGazza25. We are currently working on the fixture list for next season. We hope to release in June. #BeautifulGame

[q-money]

i can't believe people still listen to, and take seriously, the deranged lunatic that is the member for KFC

[borat]

I read an article that said the name, colours and logo will remain the same

Gallop or De Bohn said they would keep it the same for the time being but it's all up for grabs for the next owner and comunity to decide.

I take that as meaning whichever energy drink manufacturer can come up with the most coin l the FFA has a blank canvas good to go

[MFKS]

What I cannot understand from your position is that you automatically assume that trying to engage the 'casual' fan is at the expense of your so called 'non plastic' fans.

Maybe it is just me but I would think that measures put it place that would make people want to come week in week out, instead of occasionally, would likely in turn benefit the people that already go as well.

Trying to understand why people don't consume your product is a massive part of developing a business. Just as important as keeping the existing users happy.

We already have a product to reward people coming week in week out. It is called a Membership.

Even though I expect Memberships to rise now Tinkler is gone to levels comparable to other HAL Clubs the value will still be there in buying a yearly ticket rather than individual games.

Whilst ever the club is offering half price tickets, tickets for $1, bring a mate for free and all the other initiatives to offer these casual fans a free lunch they are treating their membership who have forked out the big $$ with contempt

I still don't understand why it is imperative to understand why people don't consume the product.
It is a niche product. You either like it or you don't.
Some people follow NRL others prefer Cricket others prefer AFL others prefer football.

Why bother trying to change someone's passion???

Make them welcome if they rock up but FFS stop chasing them. The decision is really theirs.


What would be a more important area to focus on would be the massive numbers of people in this country who have an involvement with football in this country at grassroots level and are not A League orientated ENOUGH and also dealing with the Eurosnob brigade rather than chasing some mystical sports fan or families and HOPING they convert.

[MFKS]

i can't believe people still listen to, and take seriously, the deranged lunatic that is the member for KFC

Aren't you the bloke who favourites most of my ramblings on Twitter

[Jeterpool]

Aren't you the bloke who favourites most of my ramblings on Twitter

Now I'm convinced q-money is a MFKS multi. Or is it the other way around?

[Jeterpool]

Hyundai A-League ‏@ALeague · 30m30 minutes ago Hi @AlexGazza25. We are currently working on the fixture list for next season. We hope to release in June. #BeautifulGame

We'll be going to Sydney to play FC twice, Adelaide, Gosford and Brisbane twice. Wellington and Perth will be coming here twice as will Heart, Victory and Wanderers. Next year is our season for 13 home matches.

[q-money]

Aren't you the bloke who favourites most of my ramblings on Twitter

i never said you were wrong though

[hawk]

To make my point clearer, in the 2006/07 season we had a layoff of 6 weeks between games due to the ground being re-sown with grass. on 12/11/06 14,000 people attended the game against the Mariners, on 1/1/07 20,900 showed up for the game against Sydney FC. The only difference between these two games was a media campaign that highlighted the excitement, passion and entertainment that was on show at Jets games. The end of that season saw a passion and electricity that I have never seen repeated.

Now, wouldn't you like to know what attracted those extra 7,000 people? Wouldn't you like them to show up again? To maybe want to show up every week? They aren't going to be attracted by the same thing that you are, because when a certain factor isn't there, they go back to their daily lives.

We need to be clear about all the elements of a successful club, because I want 20,000 people there every week.

If we are going to create a club that is open to the whole community, we need to whole of community involved from the start. No personal agendas.

that was because it was a semi and against Sydney. Newy people love big games

[hawk]

We already have a product to reward people coming week in week out. It is called a Membership.

Even though I expect Memberships to rise now Tinkler is gone to levels comparable to other HAL Clubs the value will still be there in buying a yearly ticket rather than individual games.

Whilst ever the club is offering half price tickets, tickets for $1, bring a mate for free and all the other initiatives to offer these casual fans a free lunch they are treating their membership who have forked out the big $$ with contempt

I still don't understand why it is imperative to understand why people don't consume the product.
It is a niche product. You either like it or you don't.
Some people follow NRL others prefer Cricket others prefer AFL others prefer football.

Why bother trying to change someone's passion???

Make them welcome if they rock up but FFS stop chasing them. The decision is really theirs.


What would be a more important area to focus on would be the massive numbers of people in this country who have an involvement with football in this country at grassroots level and are not A League orientated ENOUGH and also dealing with the Eurosnob brigade rather than chasing some mystical sports fan or families and HOPING they convert.

The club needs to please the members with good prices and make games attractive to the casual.

People that follow other codes are (were) coming to Jets games that wouldn't have normally. They then bring friends and too become members. I know of many who have done this.

I am happy with the membership price and have no probs with other freebies. it does slowly grow the game. All kids under 15 have never known Newcastle without a National football team it that is fantastic.

[BodyNovo]

that was because it was a semi and against Sydney. Newy people love big games

nah that game was the 2-0 loss in season when sasho chipped covic from about 30 yards out

[Jeterpool]

nah that game was the 2-0 loss in season when sasho chipped covic from about 30 yards out

Season 2 was also a semi, and against Sydney. A 2-0 win when Griff and Coveny scored.

Also that was when we were good.

[hawk]

nah that game was the 2-0 loss in season when sasho chipped covic from about 30 yards out

that's right there was 34000 at that game about 5 weeks later

[Opinionated]

The club needs to please the members with good prices and make games attractive to the casual.

.

I think getting people to games isn't about what happens on match days Friday sat sunday but more about what happens in schools, work places, homes Monday-thurday. If the club is part of the daily lives of the people of that city turning up to the game isn't about to be intertained or getting in for a good price its about about showing up for the pinnacle of your week. Its Turning up with your team not for your team. When the club and the city are together they fight for eachother play for each and pay for eachother. Win the people Monday - thurs and you will see them fri-sunday.

[tha_hauss]

As for your jump in crowds in 2006-07 the ladder position of the side, them winning games and them playing exciting football are the only reasons for the spike. It is a bandwagon ride the club was on and those days don't last forever. Why you feel the need to go out and chase these people defies logic. They are not "PASSIONATE FOOTBALL" fans and are people who enjoy the good times and the latest fad. They jump on and off everything and at the time The Jets were the fad.

Holy Shit! You can't just whitewash a 50% increase in crowd figures. from 14,000 to 21,000 in ONE GAME. That is statistically significant. You'd would expect interest to decrease over a 6 week layoff, not increase. People didn't just say "Oh, they must be a winning team now, let's go watch". Something very specific happened.

There are reasons for this increase. Partly it is because the Sydney FC game was on New Years Day and people were looking for something to do, but once they sampled they pretty much stayed with the Jets until the end of the season, and the semi against Sydney was just under 25,000 people.


I believe it was this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRf4rB9J70M

This campaign was run in the interim and presented something very specific to the public. The confetti, dancing in the stands, Milton Rodriguez, the skill of that Mark Bridge goal, the passion of the players. It looked exotic, it looked passionate.

IT LOOKED LIKE FUN!!!!!

I read all these comments about the problems in the Squadron. You know what it comes down to - FUN! People want to have FUN. For too long it was almost sold to people as a job. We have a role to play, YOU HAVE TO STAND YOU HAVE TO SING or **** OFF!

If you can't understand what are the core motivators of people, how are we going to ever have a club that can regularly compete at the top.

The people of Newcastle aren't a bunch of euro-ultra wanna be's. And that is GREAT. That is what can make us a success, different from Melbourne Victory fans or WSW fans. If going to a Jets game is FUN, then lots of people will come. Summer is supposed to be fun, isn't it.

That's my fear in this whole this, is that the people who are concerned with the "business of football" will make everything so serious. Will make it all about loyalty and "sticking by the team through thick and thin". That's a given for people who are passionate about football. But to be a real success, it has to be light hearted and entertaining. That's where Tinkler and Palmer get a big FAIL.

[Opinionated]

Holy Shit! You can't just whitewash a 50% increase in crowd figures. from 14,000 to 21,000 in ONE GAME. That is statistically significant.
IT LOOKED LIKE FUN!!!!!

I read all these comments about the problems in the Squadron. You know what it comes down to - FUN! People want to have FUN. For too long it was almost sold to people as a job. We have a role to play, YOU HAVE TO STAND YOU HAVE TO SING or **** OFF!

If you can't understand what are the core motivators of people, how are we going to ever have a club that can regularly compete at the top.
The people of Newcastle aren't a bunch of euro-ultra wanna be's. And that is GREAT. That is what can make us a success. If going to a Jets game is FUN, then lots of people will come.

Alittle aggressive but I like your point. You cant force people to support in a certain way, it will never look like a euro league and that's fine! people have to feel comfortable to support the club in their own way. The biggest thing is the club fan culture. WWS have their problems but at the core they built a culture that help the people of their area support their team, no one was forced they just all stood for the same thing. It all comes back to culture. The leaders of the squadron or any other supporter base have to engage the community and stand in the gab between club ceo's and directors and the humble man (or women) and his family of football fans.

[tha_hauss]

As for the excitement factor. I've gone back and watched games from that season and the football on display isn't anything special. Sure we had special players with a bit of flair but lets put the quality of football on display in perspective. It was the excitement that was attractive, not necessarily the quality of football.

[plague]

I think getting people to games isn't about what happens on match days Friday sat sunday but more about what happens in schools, work places, homes Monday-thurday. If the club is part of the daily lives of the people of that city turning up to the game isn't about to be intertained

this is exactly the point the club have missed since day friggin one.

[GazFish35]

What would be a more important area to focus on would be the massive numbers of people in this country who have an involvement with football in this country at grassroots level and are not A League orientated ENOUGH and also dealing with the Eurosnob brigade rather than chasing some mystical sports fan or families and HOPING they convert.

these are the people i think the club should focus on.

do it by showing (through actions) that the club is genuineily committed to improving the game in the area.
at all times behave in a manner that is best for the code and many of these people will get on board.

find out why these poeple arent engaged is the first step

you cant exclude them in any future growth plans

[q-money]

1. sack stubbins
2. stop losing all the time
3. ???
4. profit

[Opinionated]

Whats this members forum Gallop is supposing?

[Swifts]

Kalac has left Sydney FC even though he has a year to run on his contract.

Have the Double FA signed him up for us?

[lil_masi]

Kalac has left Sydney FC even though he has a year to run on his contract.

Have the Double FA signed him up for us?

Hes going to the wanderers

[Jeterpool]

Kalac has left Sydney FC even though he has a year to run on his contract.

Have the Double FA signed him up for us?

Nope. WSW. I believe they let Covic and their goalkeeping coach go as a result of this according to those on social media

[pv4]

Kalac has left Sydney FC even though he has a year to run on his contract.

Have the Double FA signed him up for us?

It's been quite a poorly kept secret for a while now that he's heading to WSW. Basically he's returning home to Western Sydney, to punt on the Parra races and sip Rakija from his bar @ Edensor all day erry day.

[tha_hauss]

What would be a more important area to focus on would be the massive numbers of people in this country who have an involvement with football in this country at grassroots level and are not A League orientated ENOUGH and also dealing with the Eurosnob brigade rather than chasing some mystical sports fan or families and HOPING they convert.

How many Eurosnobs do you think there are in Newcastle? 500? 1000?

How do you know that the grassroots football people aren't also the people who increased the crowd from 14000 to 21000 on 1/1/07? Most of the mums and dads from the team I coach are simply giving their kids an opportunity to play sport with their friends. They aren't on any kind of football mission. What they do outside of the 60 minutes they spend at the football oval is not determined by the 60 minutes that they spend on it.

I can tell you that my kids (to my dismay) have very little interest in the Jets, because they think they are boring. My son may very well be a eurosnob because he really likes Barcelona. Both my boys think that the Asian Cup Final was the most exciting event they have ever been at.

My point is, I don't think we need to dissect the community to death. Work out what works. We know what works from what worked in the past. Why do we insist on reinventing the wheel? Just to meet our own beliefs that we need to appeal to the right type of people in the right way?

Just be humble, friendly, open and honest.

That's what that tv ad was. It simply showed people what they would see at a game. No emotional blackmail, no lies, no PR bullshit.

[Opinionated]

I can tell you that my kids (to my dismay) have very little interest in the Jets, because they think they are boring. My son may very well be a eurosnob because he really likes Barcelona. Both my boys think that the Asian Cup Final was the most exciting event they have ever been at.
.

Win the kids over and you see crowds in the 15,000 every week and secure the future. There needs to be an individual in the roal of community engagement and marketing, someone to connect the club and the people, Someone who represents the club culture.

[belchardo]

this I think is an initiative worth replicating - kids under 15 get free entry to all Melbourne matches.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-18/sunday-fun-day

[MFKS]

How many Eurosnobs do you think there are in Newcastle? 500? 1000?

How do you know that the grassroots football people aren't also the people who increased the crowd from 14000 to 21000 on 1/1/07? Most of the mums and dads from the team I coach are simply giving their kids an opportunity to play sport with their friends. They aren't on any kind of football mission. What they do outside of the 60 minutes they spend at the football oval is not determined by the 60 minutes that they spend on it.

I can tell you that my kids (to my dismay) have very little interest in the Jets, because they think they are boring. My son may very well be a eurosnob because he really likes Barcelona. Both my boys think that the Asian Cup Final was the most exciting event they have ever been at.

My point is, I don't think we need to dissect the community to death. Work out what works. We know what works from what worked in the past. Why do we insist on reinventing the wheel? Just to meet our own beliefs that we need to appeal to the right type of people in the right way?

Just be humble, friendly, open and honest.

That's what that tv ad was. It simply showed people what they would see at a game. No emotional blackmail, no lies, no PR bullshit.
How many Eurosnobs in Newy??


That's a great question. I would estimate there are thousands of them.

Quite happy to watch the EPL and proclaim that Australia football is shit and not the best into he world when quite happy to ignore that the EPL gets shit on by SerieA Bundesliga Series A sides all the time

Then add in the rest who follow big name Euro sides with no affinity to the region whatsoever and then add in those who were originally from Europe who have moved here and won't embrace the local game cause they deem it inferior.

I reckon the tally would be close to 10k

As for grassroots kids and parents I can go off what we get at Jets games to indicate that out of the thousands and thousands of kids and adults that turn up to suburban grounds each weekend to be involved in football that only a fraction of them are following the Jets at Hunter Stadium. There is a massive area there for engagement.

Both these lots have an understanding of football and an involvement already that can be encouraged and harnessed. Football doesn't worry about getting them on board cause that makes too much sense. They would rather target families and casual sports fans with a variety of brain dead promotions offering a free lunch to them.

As for dissecting the community to death I am all for not doing it. My belief is we should focus on football orientated people first second third choice and not worry about chasing some magical mythical fans to drop every thing and adopt our code. They will turn up and jump on bandwagons when there is a bandwagon. In the meantime stop wasting resources on them and work on those with an involvement

[Opinionated]

As for dissecting the community to death I am all for not doing it. My belief is we should focus on football orientated people first second third choice and not worry about chasing some magical mythical fans to drop every thing and adopt our code. They will turn up and jump on bandwagons when there is a bandwagon. In the meantime stop wasting resources on them and work on those with an involvement

I think the thinking is alittle off.. It should be less how to do we get people on board with our plan and more how can the people become the club... instead of saying "we need the football euro's or we need the families" we have to say how do all of these groups become Newcastles football club.

[Opinionated]

Yep more ticket give aways never goes astray but it has to be coupled with actually making those people apart of the club... otherwise it looks like begging people to come to the game, no one likes pitty tickets. People want to be excited to go to a game not begged. Handing out tickets wont help unless that ticket is valuable!

[plague]

My belief is we should focus on football orientated people first second third choice and not worry about chasing some magical mythical fans to drop every thing and adopt our code. They will turn up and jump on bandwagons when there is a bandwagon. In the meantime stop wasting resources on them and work on those with an involvement

Well said there Member.

Variations of this theme were discussed in the fans rep committee thread and to their credit Mr Fish and Mr J.Pool put it to the boffins.

[MFKS]

I think the thinking is alittle off.. It should be less how to do we get people on board with our plan and more how can the people become the club... instead of saying "we need the football euro's or we need the families" we have to say how do all of these groups become Newcastles football club.

It is not about that. My thinking is focus on football people and **** the rest of them attitude. This is a football club and we should focus on appealing to people with an interest in football not to appeal to anyone else

Most of this shit about community engagement is complete crock of shit anyway. It isn't a case of the Jets have not engaged the community as a cause for our problems. It is a case of those running the club have been lying arrogant egotistical ****wits who promise everything and deliver nothing and people have just got ****ing jack of their attitude and constant failure to see the blatantly ****ing obvious

[tha_hauss]

How many Eurosnobs in Newy??


That's a great question. I would estimate there are thousands of them.

Quite happy to watch the EPL and proclaim that Australia football is shit and not the best into he world when quite happy to ignore that the EPL gets shit on by SerieA Bundesliga Series A sides all the time

Then add in the rest who follow big name Euro sides with no affinity to the region whatsoever and then add in those who were originally from Europe who have moved here and won't embrace the local game cause they deem it inferior.

I reckon the tally would be close to 10k

As for grassroots kids and parents I can go off what we get at Jets games to indicate that out of the thousands and thousands of kids and adults that turn up to suburban grounds each weekend to be involved in football that only a fraction of them are following the Jets at Hunter Stadium. There is a massive area there for engagement.

Both these lots have an understanding of football and an involvement already that can be encouraged and harnessed. Football doesn't worry about getting them on board cause that makes too much sense. They would rather target families and casual sports fans with a variety of brain dead promotions offering a free lunch to them.

As for dissecting the community to death I am all for not doing it. My belief is we should focus on football orientated people first second third choice and not worry about chasing some magical mythical fans to drop every thing and adopt our code. They will turn up and jump on bandwagons when there is a bandwagon. In the meantime stop wasting resources on them and work on those with an involvement

What proportion of rugby league fans do you think played rugby league? It has quite a small participation base.

[Opinionated]

It is not about that. My thinking is focus on football people and **** the rest of them attitude. This is a football club and we should focus on appealing to people with an interest in football not to appeal to anyone else



Ok so i get what your saying, what is the how? as in how to you capture the "football people" of our city. I agree these people need to be captured but what does that look like falling short of getting Con to call the greeks in newcastle?

[MFKS]

What proportion of rugby league fans do you think played rugby league? It has quite a small participation base.

Participation does not just involve playing. Spectating is also a form of participation.

Ie plenty of women passionately support league yet have never made a tackle or thrown a pass in their life.

Plenty of people also follow the NRL yet never played it except for in the backyard or at the local park after school as kids

Many sports out there have massive interest yet don't have many people actively participating as players.

[plague]

What proportion of rugby league fans do you think played rugby league? It has quite a small participation base.

Exactly, this what the Knights have always done well in Newy.
A lot of your fans would have turned up in loyalty more to your Chiefs, your Mad Dogs and your Joeys than the team itself.
Football here has never done a good job of engaging their players the same way.
Aside from Griff no Jet has ever really embraced being a public figure.
That attitude sells a lot of shirts/seats and sponsors.

[Jetmaster]

Good news for potential investors....

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/football-shoots-past-rugby-league-and-union/1n7o5mzgr1wz41ptgbl6glirv4

[tha_hauss]

Ie plenty of women passionately support league yet have never made a tackle or thrown a pass in their life.

Plenty of people also follow the NRL yet never played it except for in the backyard or at the local park after school as kids



Look out, you just expanded your demographic.

[The Dunster]

Exactly, this what the Knights have always done well in Newy.
A lot of your fans would have turned up in loyalty more to your Chiefs, your Mad Dogs and your Joeys than the team itself.
Football here has never done a good job of engaging their players the same way.
Aside from Griff no Jet has ever really embraced being a public figure.
That attitude sells a lot of shirts/seats and sponsors.

Difference being that all these Knights were either local products or in the case of Doogs attending Newcastle University and was known and liked by a lot of people . As such, they already had a connection with the locals before they even stepped onto the field.

Add to that the fact they were each world class or in the case of Johns possibly the best of all time and it would be pretty hard not to get it right from a marketing perspective.

So all the jets need to do is field a world class team in the a-league for under $3m a season and make sure they have a few local kids in the mix as well.

Not so easy.

[plague]

So all the jets need to do is field a world class team in the a-league for under $3m a season and make sure they have a few local kids in the mix as well.

Not so easy.

I take your point about more 'locals' but as for world class I don't reackon it made a heap of difference.


Even the 'Knight-Ryder' had a cult following and he was a mangy ginger in headgear and fairly hopeless at that.

Id say more it was the fact your Chiefs etc were on the telly being themselves (boofheads) which made them far more engaging than your current crop of media trained robots.

Remember there was s bit of a run on TV where Topor was taking the piss out of himself about not scoring.

People related to that.

Nowadays from the top down they don't give any time or respect to the media and sadly that's the window to the fans.

[stopper2]

It is not about that. My thinking is focus on football people and **** the rest of them attitude. This is a football club and we should focus on appealing to people with an interest in football not to appeal to anyone else

Most of this shit about community engagement is complete crock of shit anyway. It isn't a case of the Jets have not engaged the community as a cause for our problems. It is a case of those running the club have been lying arrogant egotistical ****wits who promise everything and deliver nothing and people have just got ****ing jack of their attitude and constant failure to see the blatantly ****ing obvious

At the end of the day it is about the product and do people want to be a part of it. This year was the low point, it seemed every decision the club made was aimed at disenchanting people more and more from the club to the point where not even Members were bothering to turn up. The Newcastle Jets as a product had nothing going for it, it's obvious that if the status quo remained that the club was heading towards disaster next season with crowds possibly in the vicinity of 5,000.

Under Tinkler/HSG when they tried to form that "Team Newcastle" shit with the Knights I think we started losing our identity and "feel" of a Football club that we had under Con. Now is our chance to get that back and become a real Football club again with a real football culture about it.

[MFKS]

I take your point about more 'locals' but as for world class I don't reackon it made a heap of difference.


Even the 'Knight-Ryder' had a cult following and he was a mangy ginger in headgear and fairly hopeless at that.

Id say more it was the fact your Chiefs etc were on the telly being themselves (boofheads) which made them far more engaging than your current crop of media trained robots.

Remember there was s bit of a run on TV where Topor was taking the piss out of himself about not scoring.

People related to that.

Nowadays from the top down they don't give any time or respect to the media and sadly that's the window to the fans.

Good post Plague

I never realised you were so intelligent. I now see you in a new light

:thumbsup:

[plague]

Good post Plague

I never realised you were so intelligent. I now see you in a new light

:thumbsup:

geez mate ive been telling you for years.
good to see you finally catch on.





Only ForeverRed left on the list now....................

[baldrick]

SOCCEROOS boss Ange Postecoglou will be involved in determining who will coach the Newcastle Jets.

However, it appears highly unlikely that Phil Stubbins will remain at the helm.

Football Federation Australia took control of the club on Wednesday after owner Nathan Tinkler was stripped of his A-League licence.

The 15 players on the club's books for next season have been offered contracts identical to the deals they were on at the Jets.

Administrative staff, headed by chief executive officer Mitchell Murphy, have also been brought across to ensure continuity while their positions are reviewed.

But Stubbins and assistants James Pascoe, Mark Jones and Jesse Van Strattan have been left aside.

Their futures now hinge on a review.

That analysis, which is expected to begin next week, will be done in consultation with Postecoglou, national technical director Eric Abrams and head of national performance Luke Casserly.

It is hoped that the coaching situation will be finalised in the next fortnight. The Jets assemble for pre-season training on June 22.


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Sydney United coach and Fox Sports analyst Mark Rudan, former championship-winning Brisbane boss Mike Mulvey and and other high-profile identities Tony Vidmar, John Aloisi and Paul Okon are possible candidates.

The Jets' first coach, Jean-Paul de Marigny, who led the team in the inaugural A-League pre-season before Richard Money took over, resigned on Friday as assistant coach at A-League champions Melbourne Victory.

In announcing that FFA had taken over the club, chief executive David Gallop stressed the importance of re-engaging the local community.

Newcastle-born former Socceroo Clayton Zane, one of three support staff sacked by Tinkler and Stubbins in January, guided the Jets for the final 12 games of the 2013-14 season.

Since his axing, Zane has been completing a Masters in Sports Coaching as well as working with the Emerging Jets and other junior programs.

"It would be great if local people were involved," said Zane, who is yet to have his contract and entitlements finalised. If that does not involve me, I'd still be happy.

"I am undertaking a pro licence next month.

"I met with FFA previously and they are trying to help me with my professional development. Eric Abrams and Luke Casserly know where I'm at with my coaching.

"I'm sure they will have a plan in place."

Former coaches Gary van Egmond, who has had two stints in charge, and Craig Deans are also involved with the Emerging Jets.

Pascoe and Jones, who was the Jets' assistant under van Egmond in the 2008 championship campaign, are keen to continue.

A teacher at Hunter Sports High, Pascoe was promoted from youth team coach to assist Stubbins after the sackings in January.

Jones, who was assistant coach in 2008 when the Jets won the championship, joined the staff at the same time.

As well as assisting Stubbins, Jones was the strength and conditioning coach and video analyst.

"Jimmy Pascoe and Mark Jones came in and steadied the ship," former defender Taylor Regan said.

"They did a great job, so I'd hope they were rewarded for their work."

Stubbins, who aligned himself closely with Tinkler, returns on Monday from a scouting mission in Europe and remains "100 per cent committed" to Newcastle.

"I think we've now got a chance to rebuild well," he said on Wednesday.

Under the 52-year-old Englishman, the Jets finished last with three wins from 27 games, the club's worst season in history.

In a tumultuous campaign, Stubbins and Tinkler sacked senior players Kew Jaliens, Joel Griffiths, Billy Celeski and Adrian Madaschi and support staff Zane, Neil Young and Andrew Packer.

The coach also had a major falling out with several other players.


http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3098108/postecoglou-to-help-choose-jets-next-coach/?cs=306

[MFKS]

DISCARDED home-grown players Taylor Regan and James Virgili have welcomed Football Federation Australia's takeover of the Jets and are hopeful it could lead to a second chance for them at the club.

Jets coach Phil Stubbins cut Regan and Virgili on April 28, sparking an outcry from many supporters.

Regan, 26, captained the side after the mid-season sacking of five senior players and was named the members club player of the year.

Virgili, 22, started and was among the Jets’ best in rounds 11 to 14 before a training-ground accident left him with a season-ending broken ankle.

Both were gutted at the decisions, especially given Regan was assured he would be given a deal and Virgili made multiple attempts while sidelined to gain clarity on his future with the club.

Both are yet to make a commitment for next season and hope this week’s event at the Jets could open the door for a return, especially given Stubbins, who presided over just three wins in 27 games, is unlikely to remain coach.

Regan, who is getting married this weekend, said he was looking home and abroad for a new club but was open to a return at the Jets.

‘‘Now that this has officially happened and I haven’t made a decision as to what I’m going to do yet, that potentially could become an option,’’ Regan said.

‘‘Again, I love Newcastle and I’d love to be at the club, but that’s a decision obviously for the FFA or the coach, or Phil. It depends.





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‘‘Obviously it was Phil who probably made the decision to get rid of me.

‘‘Whilst he’s here, I guess I won’t be.

‘‘We’ll wait and see, but certainly if a door was open and an opportunity arose back here with the club, I’d certainly look at it.

‘‘I’d love to be a one-club person and Newcastle is my home.’’

Virgili has been linked with a move to Western Sydney Wanderers but said he had nothing ‘‘concrete’’ in place for next season and his preference was to play for Newcastle.

‘‘I didn’t want to leave here in the first place, so if the opportunity does come to have another chance to stay here in Newcastle, then I’d love to have it,’’ Virgili said.

‘‘I guess that depends on who the FFA decides to appoint coach.

‘‘A few weeks ago I was told I wasn’t going to be signed again so I thought my chances were 100 per cent gone of playing here next season, but with what’s happened, it does give us a glimmer of hope.’’

Virgili said he might even hold off on his next move to keep hopes of a new deal at the Jets alive.

‘‘I’m in limbo at the moment now anyway, but depending on how long it took, I might try and drag it out a bit more to see if something does eventuate here,’’ he said.

‘‘I’m basically taking each day as it comes.

‘‘You never know what can happen in football.’’

As for the Jets, Virgili said FFA’s intervention would be a ‘‘breath of fresh air’’ at the club.

‘‘In the past, the FFA has taken over clubs and those clubs have done well under their ownership,’’ he said.

‘‘It could turn out to be a good thing for the club.

‘‘They are going to make the right decisions and they won’t jump into anything.’’

Regan was confident the Jets had a bright future, especially after speaking with former Jets teammate and Wanderers striker Labinot Haliti on Friday about FFA’s tenure in charge of Western Sydney.

‘‘I was giving me a run down on how FFA did things when they were in control of Western Sydney and it sounded very positive,’’ Regan said. ‘‘He was very confident that Newcastle will return to being what they should be, and that’s being strong in the A-League.’’


Don't know who is pushing this stuff.

Our new dawn should actually see us try and attain the best squad we possibly can.

Signing blokes who were not up to it in the past makes little sense unless we want to be as shit as we have always been.

[Tommyjet]

Don't know who is pushing this stuff.

Our new dawn should actually see us try and attain the best squad we possibly can.

Signing blokes who were not up to it in the past makes little sense unless we want to be as shit as we have always been.

I would resign Reagan unless the new coach has a better option than Mullen in mind in which case Mullen can become back up.

In regards to virgili, I believe we have waited long enough for him to become consistent a-league quality and he hasn't convinced a coach yet to give him regular games. Time to move on.

[pv4]

Why did the article say Virigili was our best from round 11-14. He was expectedly average for all his games this season, bar one where he played what I thought was ok and the rest of the town seemingly though was amazing.

Re-signing him would be a sign of us sticking with the usual service.

Regan though, I think should be re-signed.

[MFKS]

I would resign Reagan unless the new coach has a better option than Mullen in mind in which case Mullen can become back up.

In regards to virgili, I believe we have waited long enough for him to become consistent a-league quality and he hasn't convinced a coach yet to give him regular games. Time to move on.

If the new manager can't find a better CD than Reegz whether they be an Aussie or a foreigner than god help us.

I would also stress that even with Mullen Boogaard at the club neither who are outstanding but only solid HAL level players our other CD option should be a better player than both of them.

Particularly when we drastically need to improve defensively. The addition of Boogaard only to the current defensive ranks was not gonna turn us from poor defensively to good defensively.

Reegz top bloke but we do need to move on from the past.

[Tommyjet]

If the new manager can't find a better CD than Reegz whether they be an Aussie or a foreigner than god help us.

I would also stress that even with Mullen Boogaard at the club neither who are outstanding but only solid HAL level players our other CD option should be a better player than both of them.

Particularly when we drastically need to improve defensively. The addition of Boogaard only to the current defensive ranks was not gonna turn us from poor defensively to good defensively.

Reegz top bloke but we do need to move on from the past.

I suppose it depends how much the new coach wants to spend elsewhere in the squad. If rudan is the new gaffa then I dare say he'd be looking for a better defensive option or two.

[plague]

Geez, Virgili is still only 22?
Feels like everyones been bagging the shit out of him for 10 years at least. How time flies.

Biggest problem with him has been coaching. Surely there is something there that a decent coach can harness?
Put it this way id rather have him on the books for $29.99 rather than pay Ibini the rumoured marquee wages Stubbs was thinking of. They would have been the exact same player under his coaching.
You cant tell me Ange wouldnt have turned Virgili into a poor mans Rojas, or Barbarouses? i reackon he would.

Anyway with a new coach maybe he can do a bit more with the kids in our region. As a lower wage squaddie i think he can add something.


If the last few years have proved anything is that our biggest problem has been coaching because blokes who leave here cause they aint good enough seem to go ok at other clubs.

like, lots and lots of players.

[MFKS]

Geez, Virgili is still only 22?
Feels like everyones been bagging the shit out of him for 10 years at least. How time flies.

Biggest problem with him has been coaching. Surely there is something there that a decent coach can harness?
Put it this way id rather have him on the books for $29.99 rather than pay Ibini the rumoured marquee wages Stubbs was thinking of. They would have been the exact same player under his coaching.
You cant tell me Ange wouldnt have turned Virgili into a poor mans Rojas, or Barbarouses? i reackon he would.

Anyway with a new coach maybe he can do a bit more with the kids in our region. As a lower wage squaddie i think he can add something.


If the last few years have proved anything is that our biggest problem has been coaching because blokes who leave here cause they aint good enough seem to go ok at other clubs.

like, lots and lots of players.

I seriously doubt we would have ever got Ibini anyway even if Tinkler had money

I read something in the lead up to the GF about Ibini how his dad passed away just after he signed to play in China. Since then he has got a loan back to Gypos and then to Smurfs as he is taking on the role of chief financial provider for his mother and brothers and sisters and taking care of his family who are settled in Sydney

I couldn't see him shifting base from Sydney for those reasons and fully expect him to stay at a Sydney Club or even Gypos as it is only an hour commute. Can't imagine he would want the 2 hour commute up and down the F3 every day to play for us when he does have other options.

[MFKS]

I suppose it depends how much the new coach wants to spend elsewhere in the squad. If rudan is the new gaffa then I dare say he'd be looking for a better defensive option or two.

I dare say regardless of who our gaffa is assuming he is not a half wit we will be looking to strength our side right across the park.
All positions will be looked at to be strengthened and we won't get a side top heavy in attacking talent and weak at the back or strong at the back with no firepower up front

We did have the worst attack worst defence worst winning record worst coach worst discipline and won nearly every category you don't wish to win this season.

All across the board needs to improve and we can't just focus on one area only.

[Jetmaster]

I think signing two or three of the outcasts (Griff, Reegz, maybe Caramello) would be good move and be an olive branch to the community AND an admission that the previous lot ****ed up.

Virgili...no. He has had plenty of opportunities and never had that immediate impact that new kids like Cruse, Kosta, Goodwin and many others have showed when starting out. The comments from his agent a few days ago smacked of desperation to get him a gig.

[stopper2]

I dare say regardless of who our gaffa is assuming he is not a half wit we will be looking to strength our side right across the park.
All positions will be looked at to be strengthened and we won't get a side top heavy in attacking talent and weak at the back or strong at the back with no firepower up front

We did have the worst attack worst defence worst winning record worst coach worst discipline and won nearly every category you don't wish to win this season.

All across the board needs to improve and we can't just focus on one area only.

Would it be a fair comment to say that no more players should be signed till the new coach (I'm assuming Muppet is gone) comes in?

If the new coach wants to work with the likes of Reegz, Virgili and Caravella then so be it, but the last thing we want to be hereing again is the new coach whingeing and using the old "it's not my team" card!!!

[MFKS]

Would it be a fair comment to say that no more players should be signed till the new coach (I'm assuming Muppet is gone) comes in?

If the new coach wants to work with the likes of Reegz, Virgili and Caravella then so be it, but the last thing we want to be hereing again is the new coach whingeing and using the old "it's not my team" card!!!

Fair point.

I fully am expecting Muppet to get his marching orders early next week. One would assume the only reason he hasn't got them yet is the FFA wish to do the right thing and not be a **** and tell him to his face. Shame he never showed the same decency when he was sacking everyone.

I would also expect that the new boss will be installed before the end of next week.

PS Just trying to join dots.........................

Any price Jean Paul De Marigny getting the gig Con never let him have?? Was assistant to Muscat at Victree and quit Friday.
......:brrr:

[stopper2]

Fair point.

I fully am expecting Muppet to get his marching orders early next week. One would assume the only reason he hasn't got them yet is the FFA wish to do the right thing and not be a **** and tell him to his face. Shame he never showed the same decency when he was sacking everyone.

I would also expect that the new boss will be installed before the end of next week.

PS Just trying to join dots.........................

Any price Jean Paul De Marigny getting the gig Con never let him have?? Was assistant to Muscat at Victree and quit Friday.
......:brrr:

Reckon FFA have been in the background for months now, reckon Murphy was installed there by them and when I heard 3 weeks back Middleby/Baartz had been to a meeting with Gallop this only confirmed my gut feeling.
Have to agree Member, out of nowhere de Marigny quits Victree but no news on why. Hereing some say that Jones and Zane deserve a chance, and I agree but in some respects I really think the best outcome would be to have some totally new take over, someone who has a strong personality and leadership qualities who will take responsibility and not blame others.

[seldom]

Bring in a high profile coach and keep Jones as assistant. As for Pascoe, he's way out of his league.

[borat]

Nope. Whatever coach is signed let them appoint their own staff. Happens worldwide for good reason to avoid the backstabbing that we have seen first hand.

[380]

Fair point.

I fully am expecting Muppet to get his marching orders early next week. One would assume the only reason he hasn't got them yet is the FFA wish to do the right thing and not be a **** and tell him to his face. Shame he never showed the same decency when he was sacking everyone.

I would also expect that the new boss will be installed before the end of next week.

PS Just trying to join dots.........................

Any price Jean Paul De Marigny getting the gig Con never let him have?? Was assistant to Muscat at Victree and quit Friday.


......:brrr:

Should get down to Speers Pt on that day and remind Mr three from i have lost count and remind him just who's bitch he really is.

[Tommyjet]

I dare say regardless of who our gaffa is assuming he is not a half wit we will be looking to strength our side right across the park.
All positions will be looked at to be strengthened and we won't get a side top heavy in attacking talent and weak at the back or strong at the back with no firepower up front

We did have the worst attack worst defence worst winning record worst coach worst discipline and won nearly every category you don't wish to win this season.

All across the board needs to improve and we can't just focus on one area only.

That's assuming muppet didn't put Mullen and boogaard on contracts well above their worth.

[Tommyjet]

I'm happy for JP de marigny to be installed mainly because his experience with victory and their near perfect recruitment last couple of seasons. JP and an assistant of his choosing and jones to keep his position. JP is well respected across the country and would be a gaffa that most players in the country would be happy to play under.

[MFKS]

That's assuming muppet didn't put Mullen and boogaard on contracts well above their worth.

We should be really thankful that Tinkler has actually poleaxed our squad and we are able to start with a pretty empty slate.

Wouldn't be much good if he had of given players 5 year deals and they are dead wood

[Jeterpool]

Rickie Herbert as an option. Mentioned back in December I think

[Tommyjet]

Rickie Herbert as an option. Mentioned back in December I think

Yeah not keen on a kiwi in charge

[stopper2]

Rickie Herbert as an option. Mentioned back in December I think

Yeah I remember Herbert being mentioned but didn't Phoenix get rid of him because his style was considered "too boring"?

[Premy]

Well here's a way to get offside with the support.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/alivodic-backs-stubbins-stay

[seldom]

Well here's a way to get offside with the support.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/alivodic-backs-stubbins-stay

Alivodic out !

[halo se7en]

Well here's a way to get offside with the support.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/alivodic-backs-stubbins-stay

The whole thing was completely lost in translation.

[lquiquer]

Janko.....Gooooone

[Blackmac79]

Important questions need to be asked...

Like why does mark jones have a picture of a poodle as his iPhone background?

[holmesy]

Can confirm brown poodle in existance.

[lquiquer]

Djibril Cisse should be a target for HAL clubs including us.....

[MFKS]

Andrew Hoole started training with Smurfs today. I take it he will be getting a run V Spuds.

Absolutely filthy seeing this kid in Smurfs gear.


Only one person I blame for this and that is the **** who ran our club into the ground and gave a Newy lad no reason to want to stay

**** you Tinkler

[hawk]

Andrew Hoole started training with Smurfs today. I take it he will be getting a run V Spuds.

Absolutely filthy seeing this kid in Smurfs gear.


Only one person I blame for this and that is the **** who ran our club into the ground and gave a Newy lad no reason to want to stay

**** you Tinkler

Could have stayed for the resurrection, chose judas.

[MFKS]

Could have stayed for the resurrection, chose judas.

To be perfectly fair the resurrection only arrived last week.

He signed months ago

[MFKS]

ANDREW Hoole has started life at Sydney FC.

The Newcastle-born midfielder trained with the Sky Blues on Monday after the Jets agreed to release him.

Standard A-League player contracts run until May 31, but Hoole has been granted an early departure to enable him to suit up for Sydney in high-profile friendlies against Tottenham on Saturday and Chelsea next Tuesday.

‘‘They are two massive games and I obviously want to be a part of it,’’ Hoole said.

‘‘Both are close to sellouts and the atmosphere will be incredible.

‘‘The biggest crowd I have played in front of is about 20,000 at a Melbourne Victory game.’’

Monday’s session was Sydney’s first since their 3-0 loss to Melbourne Victory in the A-League grand final.

‘‘It was a session to get back into the swing of things,’’ Hoole said.

‘‘The boys said it was one of the easier sessions and it was still quite difficult. That is the standard they are looking for.

‘‘There were a few nerves going in to training with it being a different environment.

‘‘But it was a good session. It is good to be a part of that intense environment.’’

Hoole hasn’t played since the Jets’ 2-1 loss to Brisbane Roar in the final round on April 24 but the 20-year-old has been ‘‘ticking over’’ to ensure he is up to pace.

‘‘I have had to keep doing my own stuff,’’ he said.

‘‘After the Chelsea game we have five weeks off. I’ll rest then.

‘‘In football you have to earn your spot. I’m definitely looking to do that.

‘‘I spoke to [coach] Graham Arnold and he is keen for me to play some minutes.

‘‘I’m just trying to put some good training sessions in and make sure I’m ready.’’

A Broadmeadow Magic product, Hoole played 50 games for the Jets after making his A-League debut in a 1-0 win over Brisbane in January, 2013.

‘‘I enjoyed my time at the Jets,’’ Hoole said.

‘‘Everything comes to an end at some point and you have to move on.

‘‘That’s football.

‘‘This is a new chapter for me and I’m looking forward to the challenge.’’

AAP reports: Just a week after he was voted man of the match in Melbourne Victory’s grand final win, Mark Milligan could be set to leave the club.

The Socceroos midfielder and Victory captain has been linked with a move to the Middle East after a terrific A-League campaign.

Victory chose not to accept a bid from Baniyas reported to be worth $1million in January 2014.


Nice of FFA to give Hoole an early release from his Jets contracts just to benefit FFA FC.

[sammydog]

Let me finish what I started, says Stubbins http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3103250/let-me-finish-what-i-started-says-stubbins/?cs=306

PHIL Stubbins has implored Football Federation Australia to review the coaching set-up at the Newcastle Jets.

The Jets coach is in limbo after returning on Sunday from a scouting trip to Europe and is desperate to complete a two-year deal he ‘‘signed in good faith’’.

The FFA took control of the Jets last Wednesday after Nathan Tinkler had his A-League licence stripped.

Unlike the players, the contracts of Stubbins and support staff James Pascoe, Mark Jones and Jess Vanstrattan were not carried over by the FFA.

Their positions are now under scrutiny.

‘‘I hope that they do exactly what they say they will do and have a review,’’ he told the Herald from Adelaide, where his wife has a business. ‘‘In fact, I implore them.

‘‘The coaching staff and myself would certainly welcome this outcome and perhaps, with transparency and dialogue, it will paint a positive picture to the one currently in the minds of many.

‘‘I honestly feel we can turn things around significantly if given the opportunity, especially after making so many tough decisions throughout the course of the campaign. The bottom line is that there are many things learnt from my first season with the Jets.

‘‘I simply request the chance to see through a two-year deal that I signed in good faith.’’

A decision is expected by the end of the week.

“FFA is looking at the needs of the new club from a technical, sports science, management and elite development point of view,’’ head of the A-League Damien de Bohun said.

“The coaches from the old club have not come across at this stage.

‘‘We plan to make an announcement on the process in the next few days.”

Under Stubbins, the Jets recorded three wins in 27 games to finish on 17 points, the worst haul in club history, and collected the wooden spoon.

‘‘I take ownership of my own role in the poor season,’’ Stubbins said. ‘‘More than anyone, I have empathy with the fans and what they have endured over the last five seasons. I take responsibility for my part in that.

‘‘When I came into the position, I made some mistakes with some signings.

‘‘Contrary to popular belief, last season’s roster was not assembled all of my own free will. I should have done things more my way.’’

The flashpoint was a 7-0 loss to Adelaide at Coopers Stadium on January 24.

That humiliating defeat sparked a week of blood-letting in which five senior players were sacked and the coaching staff, aside from Stubbins, departed.

The Jets were on eight points with one win at the time.

Pascoe, Jones and Vanstrattan were appointed and Daniel Mullen, Lee Ki-je and Enver Alivodic were added to the roster.

The Jets picked up nine points in the final 12 rounds, highlighted by wins over a second-string Wanderers and eventual champions Melbourne Victory.

A further nine players, headed by Edson Montano, Zenon Caravella and home-grown duo Taylor Regan and James Virgili, were let go at the end of the campaign.

Lee, Alivodic and Mullen have extended their deals. Nigel Boogaard, Andy Brennan and Themba Muata-Marlow are new faces.

‘‘The club now has a very solid foundation from which to build on,’’ Stubbins said.

‘‘We are on the right track with the age and profile demographic of the squad and I’m very confident that with the addition of the players that I have scouted in Europe this group is closer to success.

‘‘Ernie Merrick finished second last with both Wellington and Melbourne Victory in his opening campaigns, as did Ange Postecoglou at Brisbane Roar and Kenny Lowe at Perth. You need time when sweeping change needs to be made.’’

David Carney, who spent four months in limbo last season after falling out with Stubbins, has indicated he would welcome a change of coaches.

Caravella has also been highly critical of Stubbins.

Their view is in contrast to that of Alivodic and Mullen, who have this week come out in support of the embattled coach.

‘‘It seems that most of the people speaking out have been the ones that have been released or have angst at not playing,’’ Stubbins said.

‘‘The football environment is actually a very good one.’’

The governing body has offered players like-for-like contracts to the deals they were on at the Jets.

All bar keeper Mark Birighitti, who has been on loan at Italian Serie B club Varese, are expected to accept.

There was speculation on Monday that Birighitti, who is now a free agent, would join Perth as a replacement for Danny Vukovic.

However, the 24-year-old gloveman told the Herald last night that his preference was to stay in Europe.


Wow, So Phil signed a two year contract in good faith and wants it to be honoured so he can finish what he started?

What about the players and staff he sacked, who also signed contracts in good faith? I'm sure if asked those players would have all said they wanted to finish what they started and they all probably felt they were the right people for the job.

Is Phil seriously that arrogant and deluded that he thinks that he should get special treatment.

Pack your bags Phil, its time to go.

[Tommyjet]

On your bike muppet

[pv4]

What does "signed in good faith" mean exactly? Sounds like bs to me.

I won't be renewing my membership if Stubbins is still involved. Simple.

[stopper2]

Wow, So Phil signed a two year contract in good faith and wants it to be honoured so he can finish what he started?

What about the players and staff he sacked, who also signed contracts in good faith? I'm sure if asked those players would have all said they wanted to finish what they started and they all probably felt they were the right people for the job.

Is Phil seriously that arrogant and deluded that he thinks that he should get special treatment.

Pack your bags Phil, its time to go.

Totally agree, just right that load of BS from a man is totally desperate..... I mean using the word "implore" is just pathetic..... to hang on to his job.
There is no honour and dignity him. Then to compare what he is trying to do with what the likes of Merrick, Ange and Lowe done shows once he again he will say any drivel to put up smokescreens and mirrors to the real truth. He had a whole off-season to take charge of this team with a big input in the make-up of the squad, Ange and Lowe both came in mid-season.....Ange took over from Farina while Lowe took over from Edwards.
Merrick on the other hand didn't use a "scorched earth policy" in improving his squad both at Victory and Phoenix. He knew from his frst season, what areas he needed to strengthen the side and what type of player to bring in.
Anyway I've had enough of repeating myself about his Muppet.....come on FFA lets just get it over with. I for one do not feel one iota of sympathy for him!

[MFKS]

What does "signed in good faith" mean exactly? Sounds like bs to me.

I won't be renewing my membership if Stubbins is still involved. Simple.

Plastic Fan :brrr:

[sammydog]

Plastic Fan :brrr:

The FFA stuffed up finding out who the plastic fans really were. One more season of Tinks and Stubbins would have established the fan pecking order.

[q-money]

http://americanurethane.com/auchart33.gif

[Retro Jet]

Need 10,000 wurtzite boron nitride fans at least.
So, HTFU to the max Newie!

[plague]

Any word on the return of monster trucks to EAS?

May as well go two feet up on us.

[tha_hauss]

https://audioboom.com/boos/3214405-interview-mitchell-murphy-speaks-with-kofm-s-david-collins

This interview kind of worried me, hence the reply I put on facebook about it.

Basically, we have Mitchell Murphy telling us that the jets admin team are raring to go with great ideas on building a great club with great community engagement.

But here is the thing. They've been pretty bad at it to date. They've particularly been bad at letting supporters voice their opinions on what they want out of THEIR club. So history doesn't confirm what he was saying. I mean, was Tinkler's shadow so large that he stopped all staff from wanting to listen to supporters?

The other thing that concerns me is that supporters have no avenue for discussing issues outside of the proposed "supporter forum" that the FFA will hold. So how are we meant to get our heads around what is truly important, and what points Gallop really needs to hear? It's like supporters will once again be managed down the road that other people want them to go down. To me, there should be supporter forum after supporter forum until the guys in charge understand what is important to fans. There should be mass meetings and one on one meetings and meetings with the supporters committee. And there should be an online forum for people to speak where they know that club representatives and FFA representatives will read what people have to say. Otherwise, as Mitchell Murphy says, these "great staff" with "great ideas" will get the job of creating their version of a "great club", whether or not it is what supporters want.

Anyone got any ideas on a way forward with this? Should a new section of this forum be opened specifically for this issue and it be publicised on facebook, in the Herald Comments etc so that people who do not normally frequent this forum can put down their points? Or is a facebook page enough? I think something more needs to happen and it needs to be something that the club and the FFA are willing to take seriously.

[Jeterpool]

This interview kind of worried me, hence the reply I put on facebook about it.

Basically, we have Mitchell Murphy telling us that the jets admin team are raring to go with great ideas on building a great club with great community engagement.

But here is the thing. They've been pretty bad at it to date. They've particularly been bad at letting supporters voice their opinions on what they want out of THEIR club. So history doesn't confirm what he was saying. I mean, was Tinkler's shadow so large that he stopped all staff from wanting to listen to supporters?

The other thing that concerns me is that supporters have no avenue for discussing issues outside of the proposed "supporter forum" that the FFA will hold. So how are we meant to get our heads around what is truly important, and what points Gallop really needs to hear? It's like supporters will once again be managed down the road that other people want them to go down. To me, there should be supporter forum after supporter forum until the guys in charge understand what is important to fans. There should be mass meetings and one on one meetings and meetings with the supporters committee. And there should be an online forum for people to speak where they know that club representatives and FFA representatives will read what people have to say. Otherwise, as Mitchell Murphy says, these "great staff" with "great ideas" will get the job of creating their version of a "great club", whether or not it is what supporters want.

Anyone got any ideas on a way forward with this? Should a new section of this forum be opened specifically for this issue and it be publicised on facebook, in the Herald Comments etc so that people who do not normally frequent this forum can put down their points? Or is a facebook page enough? I think something more needs to happen and it needs to be something that the club and the FFA are willing to take seriously.

The supporters all have the members sub-committee, which fans (not just members) can leave feedback on Facebook, forums, Twitter or through the club direct. That's another avenue and as you've seen we've already been in touch with the club.

And while a degree of caution is understandable how about we give the FFA a chance to run the forum before we judge. They've told us one is going to happen over the coming weeks. I'd take that as fair warning to start thinking about the points is like to ask at this forum. It doesn't matter what Gallop wants to hear - it's about what you want to raise.

And yeah I get the feeling the admin team had very very lean budgets which meant any free engagement or Big Bang for little buck ideas were implemented.

[tha_hauss]

The supporters all have the members sub-committee, which fans (not just members) can leave feedback on Facebook, forums, Twitter or through the club direct. That's another avenue and as you've seen we've already been in touch with the club.

And while a degree of caution is understandable how about we give the FFA a chance to run the forum before we judge. They've told us one is going to happen over the coming weeks. I'd take that as fair warning to start thinking about the points is like to ask at this forum. It doesn't matter what Gallop wants to hear - it's about what you want to raise.

And yeah I get the feeling the admin team had very very lean budgets which meant any free engagement or Big Bang for little buck ideas were implemented.


Jeterpool,

The main issue I had with Robbie Middleby was that you don't need a budget to make people feel included. You don't need a budget to make people feel valued. That is a function of the human spirit and how willing you are to give and to share what you have.

Whether or not you have the money to implement people's ideas, it costs no money to say - "that's a good idea, we just can't afford it now". I would suggest that there are lots of ideas out there that don't cost any money. In fact, I personally would never propose an idea to the club that wasn't either cost neutral or would make them money, because you can't expect a loss making A-League club to keep chipping in bucks for things. ideas can just about coordinating ways for people to have more fun. There is also value in letting people just being heard, with the only objective of developing an understanding - of what happened to KB United, what happened to the Rowdies, etc. etc. About what it means to be a supporter of football in this town.

When I worked for the club, after coming out of the Squadron, you know what question I was asked time and again by people within the club? "What do the supporters think?" And I would answer, well, I think it would be this or that, but why don't you ask them yourself, they aren't people you should be scared of. And I think over time people did develop an organic relationship with supporters.

Has the sub-committee published what it is doing for supporters in the lead up to this series of forums? Or what it wants from supporters now that the club has gone? I'm not criticising, I just think people need a way forward.

This is not for myself, I've already shot an email off to David Gallop. I just want to stress the point that we've got ONE chance to get this right.

I just get this eerie feeling that we are in a time of such HUGE change and opportunity and all we are talking about is player recruitment and whether or not Stubbins is gone.

And for the record, I'm not really judging the FFA or the club. The FFA are going with what worked for them with WSW and the club is just being the club. I am simply saying that at this initial stage, no supporter consultation has occurred. And I am concerned that supporters will not be coordinated enough to form positions around important issues if they aren't talking about it now. The supporters committee has a role to play but this situation is bigger than a run of the mill process. This is like a revolution and the people should be heard by as many channels as we are willing to create.

[tomo]

Stubbins sacked!!!

[furns]

Jeterpool,

The main issue I had with Robbie Middleby was that you don't need a budget to make people feel included. You don't need a budget to make people feel valued. That is a function of the human spirit and how willing you are to give and to share what you have.

Whether or not you have the money to implement people's ideas, it costs no money to say - "that's a good idea, we just can't afford it now". I would suggest that there are lots of ideas out there that don't cost any money. In fact, I personally would never propose an idea to the club that wasn't either cost neutral or would make them money, because you can't expect a loss making A-League club to keep chipping in bucks for things. ideas can just about coordinating ways for people to have more fun. There is also value in letting people just being heard, with the only objective of developing an understanding - of what happened to KB United, what happened to the Rowdies, etc. etc. About what it means to be a supporter of football in this town.

When I worked for the club, after coming out of the Squadron, you know what question I was asked time and again by people within the club? "What do the supporters think?" And I would answer, well, I think it would be this or that, but why don't you ask them yourself, they aren't people you should be scared of. And I think over time people did develop an organic relationship with supporters.

Has the sub-committee published what it is doing for supporters in the lead up to this series of forums? Or what it wants from supporters now that the club has gone? I'm not criticising, I just think people need a way forward.

This is not for myself, I've already shot an email off to David Gallop. I just want to stress the point that we've got ONE chance to get this right.

I just get this eerie feeling that we are in a time of such HUGE change and opportunity and all we are talking about is player recruitment and whether or not Stubbins is gone.

And for the record, I'm not really judging the FFA or the club. The FFA are going with what worked for them with WSW and the club is just being the club. I am simply saying that at this initial stage, no supporter consultation has occurred. And I am concerned that supporters will not be coordinated enough to form positions around important issues if they aren't talking about it now. The supporters committee has a role to play but this situation is bigger than a run of the mill process. This is like a revolution and the people should be heard by as many channels as we are willing to create.

Someone get this man on a football advisory board - stat!

[Blackmac79]

I don't know if Gav has passed it on, however I did send something through which is similar to what Haus is taking about with the sub-committee. Agree entirely that they need to be a focal point, a central point of reference for a unified supporter base ensuring that the way they want their club is run is adhered to.

A level of responsibility now needs to be held for those who put their hand up to be on that committee. They, if they like it or not are the supporters representatives. With their current position they owe it to the rest of the fan base to grow on what they have already gained.

A physical supporters group, who elects representatives to meet with the club could, one day, form the basis of a supporter owned club. The time is now to start that movement.

[hawk]

This interview kind of worried me, hence the reply I put on facebook about it.

Basically, we have Mitchell Murphy telling us that the jets admin team are raring to go with great ideas on building a great club with great community engagement.

But here is the thing. They've been pretty bad at it to date. They've particularly been bad at letting supporters voice their opinions on what they want out of THEIR club. So history doesn't confirm what he was saying. I mean, was Tinkler's shadow so large that he stopped all staff from wanting to listen to supporters?

The other thing that concerns me is that supporters have no avenue for discussing issues outside of the proposed "supporter forum" that the FFA will hold. So how are we meant to get our heads around what is truly important, and what points Gallop really needs to hear? It's like supporters will once again be managed down the road that other people want them to go down. To me, there should be supporter forum after supporter forum until the guys in charge understand what is important to fans. There should be mass meetings and one on one meetings and meetings with the supporters committee. And there should be an online forum for people to speak where they know that club representatives and FFA representatives will read what people have to say. Otherwise, as Mitchell Murphy says, these "great staff" with "great ideas" will get the job of creating their version of a "great club", whether or not it is what supporters want.

Anyone got any ideas on a way forward with this? Should a new section of this forum be opened specifically for this issue and it be publicised on facebook, in the Herald Comments etc so that people who do not normally frequent this forum can put down their points? Or is a facebook page enough? I think something more needs to happen and it needs to be something that the club and the FFA are willing to take seriously.

this is what I was eluding to when our sub committee was recently in negotiations.

[GazFish35]

I don't know if Gav has passed it on, however I did send something through which is similar to what Haus is taking about with the sub-committee. Agree entirely that they need to be a focal point, a central point of reference for a unified supporter base ensuring that the way they want their club is run is adhered to.

A level of responsibility now needs to be held for those who put their hand up to be on that committee. They, if they like it or not are the supporters representatives. With their current position they owe it to the rest of the fan base to grow on what they have already gained.

A physical supporters group, who elects representatives to meet with the club could, one day, form the basis of a supporter owned club. The time is now to start that movement.


Your issue was passed on and is being discussed.

[Blackmac79]

Your issue was passed on and is being discussed.

I didn't have very large doubts. Just tiny ones. Thankyou at anyrate

[lil_masi]

In the herald today they mentioned that next season the jets will go back to training at the Uni. Bit disappointing because I would have thought the facilities at speers point would have been much better.

[Pico]

Newcastle Jets Phil Stubbins: sacked coach has no ‘regrets’ about sacking players

Barry Toohey
The Daily Telegraph
May 26, 2015 10:52PM

SACKED Newcastle Jets coach Phil Stubbins says he has no regrets about the way he went about trying to turn the club into an A-League force next season despite it costing him his job.

Stubbins was given his marching orders on Tuesday by the FFA, almost a week after the governing body took over control of the Jets following the demise of former owner Nathan Tinkler.

After a season where the club managed just three wins from 27 games and took the wooden spoon, the FFA’s decision to axe the controversial coach hardly came as a surprise.

‘‘Clearly, the Jets had a difficult season and this was reflected in the position on the A-League table,’’ A-League boss Damien de Bohun said.

“But this decision is also driven by the desire in the Newcastle football community for a new beginning with the new club.’’

A new coach is set to be appointed as soon as possible and will be given the authority to appoint his own staff, leaving the futures of Stubbins’ assistants Mark Jones, James Pascoe and goalkeeping coach Jess Vanstrattan also under a cloud.

Stubbins, who claimed he wasn’t given an opportunity to have any input into a review of his position before his axing, admitted he knew his days as Jets coach were numbered the moment Tinkler rang him while he was in the UK on a scouting trip early last week.

“Nathan rang to tell me what he was doing and the realisation sank in pretty quickly there and then,” Stubbins said.

“Prior to that phone call, I was in a really good head space. Yes, it had been a really difficult season but we had made some tough decisions in regards to the roster after five years of struggle.

“I certainly wanted to make some changes given in the second year, we needed a team that could challenge the top clubs and we were well on the way to putting a very competitive squad together.

“But it is what it is and now, it’s not to be.”

Heading those changes were the highly controversial mid-season sacking of five senior players and three coaching staff after a player-led revolt against Stubbins was torpedoed by Tinkler.

The fallout left Stubbins as enemy number one with plenty of Jets fans.

Asked was he bitter with his treatment, Stubbins said there was no anger there at all.

“And I don’t regret anything I’ve done. It was done because I felt it had to be if the club was to be competitive in the A-League again. I still feel the same way.

“It is tough town Newcastle. I think the media needs to get behind the club and there just needs to be less negativity.

“The new lot who comes in is going to need support. Results are one thing but the way there is this constant bashing of everyone concerned is not healthy.

“It doesn’t create a good culture at the club and it doesn’t create trust when you are constantly reading and hearing the negative stuff.”


1. I'm sure Zane would have liked a chance to have some input before his sacking in January, Youngy & Packer too.
2. We literally have a dozen signed players, we are not well on our way to anything.
3. Hang on Phil let me go get my violin so you and Tinks can bitch about how the media didn't stroke your balls enough.
4.Perhaps the negativity came directly from your tactics Phil, I've never seen a bloke do more harm to a club in one season.
5.Geez can this bloke play the victim any more, I think the Herald deserves a medal for having enough restraint not to let the wolves loose sooner, in fact they are still shielding him from the rightful criticism of his thankfully brief career at the jets by not allowing any comments on their online articles for the past two days.
6.What the **** would Phil Stubbins know about trust, go ask Regan, Zane, Carney,Griff, Celeski, Ke..... **** it I don't have time to list all the poor bastards that were shafted by this weak individual.
7.I like the way how he refused to talk to the herald but was so willing to speak to the daily telegraph says alot about the bloke.

[hawk]

1. I'm sure Zane would have liked a chance to have some input before his sacking in January, Youngy & Packer too.
2. We literally have a dozen signed players, we are not well on our way to anything.
3. Hang on Phil let me go get my violin so you and Tinks can bitch about how the media didn't stroke your balls enough.
4.Perhaps the negativity came directly from your tactics Phil, I've never seen a bloke do more harm to a club in one season.
5.Geez can this bloke play the victim any more, .

too right.

lolol... FFa said "we sacked Stubbins quickly so we can move forward" yessss

[Premy]

Fark Barry Toohey is beginning to shit me, when did he become Tinklers mouth piece.

[Pico]

FFA unlikely to cough up
By IAN KIRKWOOD
May 27, 2015, 10 p.m

FOOTBALL Federation Australia has said it is unlikely to put money into a deed of company arrangement to help pay the millions of dollars owed to Newcastle Jets’ creditors.

The association is instead expected to pay the creditors it needs to pay, such as ground owner Venues NSW and The Forum Sports and Aquatic Centre, where the players train and recover.

An updated list of Jets’ creditors shows debts of more than $23.7million – up from last week’s estimate of $20million – including about $17million to companies associated with former Jets licence holder Nathan Tinkler.

The biggest non-related creditor is the tax office, which is owed an estimated $2.9million, with almost $795,000 listed in unpaid superannuation guarantee payments.

The Newcastle Knights are listed as being owed $353,000, Venues NSW is owed $227,000 and former coach Phil Stubbins is in the books for $107,000. The Forum is owed $39,000.

Dozens of players are owed varying amounts, including $25,000 to Ben Kantarovski and $23,000 to Ben Kennedy.

As the Newcastle Herald reported last week, Mr Tinkler had agreed with administrator James Shaw of insolvency firm Shaw Gidley not to press for payment of any debts he was claiming from the club.

This agreement had been central to Mr Shaw’s plan to encourage FFA to put some of the money gained from an eventual sale of the Jets licence to a pool to pay the club’s mainly Hunter creditors.

But in a letter to Mr Shaw, FFA chief operating officer John Kelly said that ‘‘on the facts as it currently understands them is not considering participating in a deed of company arrangement’’.
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Mr Shaw had suggested the FFA use the financing of the NRL team the Titans as a model, but Mr Kelly said that was ‘‘an entirely different set of circumstances’’ and an approach that was not appropriate for the Jets.

Mr Kelly said the FFA would ‘‘of course deal with’’ Mr Shaw as the administrator of Newcastle Jets Football Operations Pty Ltd (Administrator Appointed) – the company that held the club’s A-League licence.

But Mr Kelly wanted to make sure creditors did not think the association was going to put any of the proceeds it may receive from a new owner of a Newcastle A-League team into a deed.

www.theherald.com.au/story/3108629/ffa-unlikely-to-cough-up/?cs=305


The only positive from this is that Stubbins the whinging little bitch is owed money.

[plague]

"The Forum is owed $39,000".


I vote we use it to buy that pool we always talked about.

[BodyNovo]

"The Forum is owed $39,000".


I vote we use it to buy that pool we always talked about.

Terrace on the southern hill with a pool, a bar with full strength taps and karaoke

[q-money]

This agreement had been central to Mr Shaw’s plan to encourage FFA to put some of the money gained from an eventual sale of the Jets licence to a pool to pay the club’s mainly Hunter creditors.

Executive VP for Pool Advancement, SuperDylan1990 enthusiastically supports this initiative.

[parksey]

"The Forum is owed $39,000".

i assume that is the total coast of the collective season tickets/match day tickets of the foz members.

so how much do we get each?

[plague]

i assume that is the total coast of the collective season tickets/match day tickets of the foz members.

so how much do we get each?

I figured there's only 7 real people on here and the rest are multis so we should do ok.

[furns]

"The Forum is owed $39,000".


I vote we use it to buy that pool we always talked about.

The Foz supports the pool vision

[Thomas477]

I figured there's only 7 real people on here and the rest are multis so we should do ok.

So who're the real ones and who're the multis?

[tomo]

Back to the gold???

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/strip-change-are-jets-returning-golden-age

[Jeterpool]

So who're the real ones and who're the multis?

Ah, that's the million dollar question.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.

[Couscous]

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. Couscous

Please continue.

[Thomas477]

Ah, that's the million dollar question.

1. StormyPete
2. Jeterpool
3. Sammy/Lenny
4. Me
5. Bon
6. Premy
7. Hunter4304

Unsure about HaloSeven, he could be, or he could not...

[plague]

So who're the real ones and who're the multis?

1.MFKS is 2bobs, couscous, thomas477, stopper2, borat
2.Q-man is Furns, Superdylan, hamma, blackmac and probably Spencer Prior
3.LaBazzle is LaBazzle
4.Jeterpool is anyone thats nice on here
5.Captain Oblivious is Captain Obvious but doesn't know it.
6.pv4 is a gypo.
7.Plague is Parksey and ForeverRed

[belchardo]

5.Captain Oblivious is Captain Obvious but doesn't know it.


gold

[MFKS]

1.MFKS is 2bobs, couscous, thomas477, stopper2, borat
2.Q-man is Furns, Superdylan, hamma, blackmac and probably Spencer Prior
3.LaBazzle is LaBazzle
4.Jeterpool is anyone thats nice on here
5.Captain Oblivious is Captain Obvious but doesn't know it.
6.pv4 is a gypo.
7.Plague is Parksey and ForeverRed

You nearly nailed except for one thing.

You missed Slobs FFS

[plague]

You nearly nailed except for one thing.

You missed Slobs FFS

I've met Slobs so I know his real identity.




(Griff)

[furns]

1.MFKS is 2bobs, couscous, thomas477, stopper2, borat
2.Q-man is Furns, Superdylan, hamma, blackmac and probably Spencer Prior
3.LaBazzle is LaBazzle
4.Jeterpool is anyone thats nice on here
5.Captain Oblivious is Captain Obvious but doesn't know it.
6.pv4 is a gypo.
7.Plague is Parksey and ForeverRed
This is taking on a life of its own. Great to see.
Helps that it's the truth too.

[Grimario]

1.MFKS is 2bobs, couscous, thomas477, stopper2, borat
2.Q-man is Furns, Superdylan, hamma, blackmac and probably Spencer Prior
3.LaBazzle is LaBazzle
4.Jeterpool is anyone thats nice on here
5.Captain Oblivious is Captain Obvious but doesn't know it.
6.pv4 is a gypo.
7.Plague is Parksey and ForeverRed

I like it but that means one of those muppets likes disc golf.

[MFKS]

SOMETHING needs to change in the way Newcastle professional sporting teams are run because the current model seems to lead one way: extinction.

KB United, Newcastle Falcons, Hunter Pirates, Newcastle Breakers, the Jets and very nearly the Knights, have all entered administration.

Simply put, the Hunter doesn’t have the corporate power that other clubs in national sporting competitions possess, which means it is simply not a fair fight.

Privatisation has been tried, with millionaires signing off on the cheques, but as has been shown time and time again, they can only throw so much cash down the well.

At the end of the day they are businessmen and will soon want to see a return, and if they don’t, cheques stop being signed.

Most matches, even with decent ticket sales, generally are break-even at best, often running at a loss, depending on the stadium deal. The main revenue streams these days come from sponsorship, membership and corporate sales.

These streams are crucial to the financial viability of a franchise, but often it’s administration staff who are the first out the door come a cash crisis.

If you strip resources away from these departments, you’ll always be chasing your tail because you won’t be adequately staffed to maximise these areas, which remain so important to generating revenue.

Revenue from TV deals and grants from governing bodies are used to cover player salaries and ensure each club can afford to spend the salary cap, but as we saw in the Jets experience, even that is not always guaranteed.





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Though the salary cap is designed to keep things fair on field, it simply isn’t a fair fight off field, and it isn’t just the Jets who are struggling.

Central Coast Mariners are battling financially, Adelaide United have been run by the FFA in the past, Brisbane Roar may be heading that way again soon and Perth Glory hasn’t exactly got its ship in order.

Meanwhile Sydney FC, Western Sydney Wanderers, Melbourne City and Melbourne Victory fly high, strengthened by strong corporate support in Australia’s biggest cities.

Both generate strong membership numbers and gate receipts, on catchment size alone.

All have been privatised, but have a strong backbone of economic support, in the country’s strongest economic markets.

The Hunter’s experience shows such a model doesn’t work here. Privatisation has failed and we lack the corporate support.

It’s time the FFA came in and looked at methods of equalisation to assist clubs like the Jets financially off-field.

Equalisation isn’t uncommon in Australian sport and the AFL has used it for the betterment of their game. The Sydney Swans received significant amounts of financial support as the game grew in Sydney. The Swans struggled for many years and, before 1996, were less than competitive.

But the AFL knew the importance of a viable team in Sydney and today the results speak for themselves. Sydney have 40,000 members, have won multiple grand finals and finished second in the competition last year.

The Brisbane Lions, Gold Coast Suns and Greater Western Sydney Giants have all received similar support.

The NRL provides support for clubs, giving funds to St George Illawarra, the Wests Tigers, Newcastle Knights and Gold Coast Titans, with the governing body effectively running the latter two.

Why can’t Football Federation Australia provide the same? They’ve come in now the Jets have entered administration, but why did it have to come to that?

The damage is done to the Jets brand and once again we’re rebuilding.

It’s not about giving the Jets an advantage on the field, but ensuring they can compete on the same economic level, having the same number of employees to generate revenue and having the resources A-League clubs require.

Northern NSW Football is a huge area and looms as a region of significant growth.

Both the Mariners and Jets are struggling.

Steps need to be made to ensure they can survive and prosper, for the betterment of the A-League and the game in Australia.


Makes some good points.

It is ridiculous the advantages bestowed on the Sydney and Melburn clubs based on their population sizes. None of them have to do much to be on the brink of success.

The lack of strength in Brisbane Adelaide Perth which are big enough cities says it all really.

[lquiquer]

Good goal Goodwin....... He'd better start Spanish lessons if he hasn't yet?

[MFKS]

BOB Catlin was not given a ‘‘football’’ reason why he was replaced as goalkeeper coach when Phil Stubbins took the reins at the Newcastle Jets a year ago.

Now that Stubbins is gone, Catlin hopes to return to the club he did not want to leave.

‘‘I wasn’t terminated. My contract was up and wasn’t renewed,’’ Catlin said. ‘‘A new person came in and decided it was best to clear the decks.

‘‘In terms of my performance, there was no reason given.’’

Catlin spent three seasons at the Jets.

In that time Ben Kennedy and Mark Birighitti took out the club’s player of the year in consecutive seasons. Birighitti also made the Socceroos train-on squad for the World Cup.

Football Federation Australia, which took over the Jets a fortnight ago, is in the process of appointing a new coach.

Neil Young and then Jess Vanstrattan, who was also the back-up keeper, came into the role after Catlin.

The new head coach will choose his support staff.





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Mark Rudan is the front-runner but Tony Vidmar, Paul Okon and Damian Mori are understood to be in the mix.

‘‘I know all those guys quite well,’’ Catlin said.

‘‘There are no strangers to me in the Australian game.’’

Catlin has AFC level-two accreditation as a goalkeeping coach, the minimum requirement for the A-League. He is at Manly United, where he is assistant coach and works with all the club’s keepers.

‘‘There is nothing like being at the highest level,’’ Catlin said. ‘‘If you can’t play, the next best thing is being involved.

‘‘I’m still trying to improve myself as a coach, to learn new things, and am always open to new ideas. It is a highly specialised position.

‘‘You do require a good eye for it, both the technical and the tactical aspects of the position.’’

Before joining the Jets’ coaching staff, Catlin had three seasons in goal for Newcastle Breakers and Newcastle United in the old national league.

‘‘I have had affinity with Newcastle since playing there and enjoyed living in the city,’’ Catlin said.

He would also relish another opportunity to work with Kennedy, who is the only keeper on the club’s books.

Birighitti is a free agent and hopes to find a new club in Europe.

‘‘It would be good to reunite with BK,’’ Catlin said.

‘‘He has a good attitude and is good to work with.

‘‘He is now a mature keeper.

‘‘The next three, five years should be the prime of his career.’’


Just what we need.

More blokes who achieved **** all here coming back

[Jeterpool]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/victory-bid-re-locate-rival-clubs-home-game-geelong




Victory bid to re-locate rival club's home game to Geelong

Melbourne Victory is negotiating to move a rival club’s home match to Geelong as part of their three-year deal with the Victorian Government.

Victory committed to playing one match in Geelong for the next three seasons in June last year and had great success with 21,289 fans turning out for January’s A-League clash with Perth Glory despite stifling heat and ticketing issues.

However, the A-League’s annual fixture changeabout means Victory will host 13, not 14, home games in 2015-16, which are committed to Etihad Stadium and AAMI Park.

As a result, Victory are looking for a solution with CEO Ian Robson revealing they were in discussions with other clubs.

Robson didn’t identify which clubs were being talked to, but Brisbane Roar, Central Coast and Newcastle Jets appear most likely, with all three clubs having 14 home games scheduled for 2015-16 and in need of a financial boost.

“We need to agree terms with another club to move one of their home games down to Geelong, where we’d still be the nominal away team,” Robson told FourFourTwo.

“Those conversations are happening and we’re hoping we can secure an outcome for another A-League match down there.

“We are working with the FFA in the construct of the fixtures to endeavour to secure another game down there this coming season.”

While A-League clubs have previously played regular season matches in regional areas, the concept of relocating ‘home’ matches inter-state is new, although Gold Coast United moved a game to Adelaide several years. The practice does occur more commonly in the AFL.

The Victorian Government allocated $50,000 to lure games to Geelong as part of the deal and rival clubs would need to be offered a financial incentive to agree to re-locate any home fixtures.

However, any clubs moving home matches inter-state would upset their membership bases, although there are a number of clubs who would welcome a one-off financial boost.

Victory are typically one of the bigger drawing ‘away’ sides for home attendances, meaning it will be a tough sell for clubs.

Traditional Victory rivals Sydney FC and Adelaide United are unlikely to move home matches against the champions and the Melbourne derby won’t be re-located to Geelong.

Of the remaining clubs, only Brisbane Roar, Central Coast and Newcastle Jets may have some flexibility to re-locate a fixture given they’re scheduled for 14 home games.

Central Coast faced a supporter backlash when it attempted to re-locate several home games to North Sydney Oval and Manly and may fear similar issues.

Robson added there was plenty of incentive for Victory to maintain a presence in the region.

“The A-League match against Perth was a quality event with a crowd that could’ve been bigger if the temperatures had been a little bit kinder,” Robson said.

“To get 22,000 in Geelong for an A-League game for points was an outstanding result.

“It gives us great heart and encouragement to want to continue to work with the city, the state government and work with the support of the FFA to grow our presence there.”

The 2015-16 A-League fixtures are set to be announced publicly later this month.

Read more at http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/victory-bid-re-locate-rival-clubs-home-game-geelong#VkvLgpmLf3APm0Uq.99



Basically the Victory want another home game, where they'd be the away team, to honour a contract they signed.

It better not be us!

The Victory signed their contract and have put themselves in this predicament. I say tough shit.

[WolfMan]

I'll be bringing this up at the forum in a few weeks. All 14 home matches should be at our home.

I will allow it if the FFA want to pay for all supporters travel and accommodation for the Geelong trip

[stopper2]

From todays Newcastle Herald

Ray Baartz believes Dundee United chairman Stephen Thompson ideal for Jets

NEWCASTLE football icon Ray Baartz believes Dundee United chairman Stephen Thompson is the "perfect fit" to take over as Jets owner and has urged Football Federation Australia to fast-track a deal with the multi-millionaire Scotsman.

Thompson has been in Newcastle this week meeting with potential stake-holders who might be interested in forming a consortium to take over the city's A-League franchise after the demise of one-time billionaire Nathan Tinkler two weeks ago.

Baartz had coffee with Thompson on Thursday and was impressed with what he was proposing for the Jets.

The Socceroos legend, who spent almost five years as chairman of the Jets during Tinkler's tenure before resigning in January, stressed that he had no plans for future involvement and just wanted the best outcome for the embattled club.

"It was the first time I'd met him, and I can honestly say I was very impressed," Baartz told the Newcastle Herald.

"He's a guy that's got genuine interest in taking over the club.

"He's got proven expertise in running football clubs. He's got the track record.

"He seems to me to be the perfect fit, because his philosophy is all about giving local kids a go, developing players and embracing the community.

"That's what he's done at Dundee United. He's turned that club around and he wants the chance to help the Jets do the same."
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The majority shareholder at Dundee United, Thompson inherited the chairman's position from his late father, Eddie, in 2008 and six years later had wiped out the club's £4 million ($8 million) debt.

Baartz said his impression was that FFA, which has stepped in to manage the Jets on an interim basis, was keeping Thompson at arm's length in the hope that other alternatives might emerge.

"This guy's fair dinkum, and I just think FFA need to show a little bit more enthusiasm," Baartz said.

"I know FFA are keen to see what else is out there, but we've been down the track where it was all about finding an owner based on money.

"They're obviously looking at all their options, but as far as I'm aware, he's the only option so far."

Baartz said Thompson's philosophy reminded him of the founding days of Newcastle's inaugural National Soccer League side, KB United, back in the 1970s.

He acknowledged that five years ago Tinkler was also hailed as a potential saviour, but said the "big difference" was Thompson's background in football.

"I think Nathan being there, we needed him at the time," Baartz said. "We didn't have any other options, but he probably ended up staying too long, for a number of reasons.

"Now the club has to move in a different direction and I think this is an opportunity that should be explored with a bit more enthusiasm."

After a 60-year involvement in Newcastle football, Baartz said he had "been there, done that" and had no desire for any hands-on role with the Jets' next incarnation.

"I'll always support the team, but I'm busy enough looking after my grandkids," he said.
Search for coach continues

By JAMES GARDINER

THE search for a new Jets coach will continue at least into next week.

Football Federation Australia confirmed on Friday that it had held talks with Fox Sports analyst Mark Rudan but revealed others were in the mix. It is understood the FFA is committed to having a head coach and assistants in place before the squad assemble for pre-season training on June 22.

Tony Vidmar, Damian Mori, Paul Okon and local hopefuls Mark Jones and Clayton Zane have been touted as candidates.

Rudan remains the frontrunner, but the Herald understands that negotiations have stalled between him and FFA.

Meanwhile, the bulk of the Jets’ 15 players are expected to sign new contracts with Football Federation Australia by early next week.

FFA and the players union signed an agreement on Monday guaranteeing that outstanding entitlements from Nathan Tinkler would be met.

The Herald understands like-for-like contracts to the deals the players were on were issued on Friday.

All bar keeper Mark Birighitti, who has been on loan at Italian Serie B club Varese, are expected to accept. The 24-year-old gloveman is now a free agent and his preference is to stay in Europe.

^^^^
Seriously Ray just keep your mouth shut!!!
FFA are doing their due diligence now (we hope) to ensure the same mistakes are not repeated again by just jumping into bed with the first "white knight" to announce they want to own the Jets. To urge FFA to "fast track" the process and give Thompson control of the Jets shows just how out of touch Baartz has become and it is little wonder the club was run how it was when he was Chairman.
There should be no time-frame on getting the right ownership in place, we have to get it right this time and so be it if in due course Thompson does take a part in the running of the club, but for now NO MORE RASH DECISIONS MADE IN HASTE BECAUSE ON THE SURFACE THEY APPEAR A GREAT THING TO DO!!!

[Jeterpool]

From todays Newcastle Herald

Ray Baartz believes Dundee United chairman Stephen Thompson ideal for Jets

NEWCASTLE football icon Ray Baartz believes Dundee United chairman Stephen Thompson is the "perfect fit" to take over as Jets owner and has urged Football Federation Australia to fast-track a deal with the multi-millionaire Scotsman.

Thompson has been in Newcastle this week meeting with potential stake-holders who might be interested in forming a consortium to take over the city's A-League franchise after the demise of one-time billionaire Nathan Tinkler two weeks ago.

Baartz had coffee with Thompson on Thursday and was impressed with what he was proposing for the Jets.

The Socceroos legend, who spent almost five years as chairman of the Jets during Tinkler's tenure before resigning in January, stressed that he had no plans for future involvement and just wanted the best outcome for the embattled club.

"It was the first time I'd met him, and I can honestly say I was very impressed," Baartz told the Newcastle Herald.

"He's a guy that's got genuine interest in taking over the club.

"He's got proven expertise in running football clubs. He's got the track record.

"He seems to me to be the perfect fit, because his philosophy is all about giving local kids a go, developing players and embracing the community.

"That's what he's done at Dundee United. He's turned that club around and he wants the chance to help the Jets do the same."
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The majority shareholder at Dundee United, Thompson inherited the chairman's position from his late father, Eddie, in 2008 and six years later had wiped out the club's £4 million ($8 million) debt.

Baartz said his impression was that FFA, which has stepped in to manage the Jets on an interim basis, was keeping Thompson at arm's length in the hope that other alternatives might emerge.

"This guy's fair dinkum, and I just think FFA need to show a little bit more enthusiasm," Baartz said.

"I know FFA are keen to see what else is out there, but we've been down the track where it was all about finding an owner based on money.

"They're obviously looking at all their options, but as far as I'm aware, he's the only option so far."

Baartz said Thompson's philosophy reminded him of the founding days of Newcastle's inaugural National Soccer League side, KB United, back in the 1970s.

He acknowledged that five years ago Tinkler was also hailed as a potential saviour, but said the "big difference" was Thompson's background in football.

"I think Nathan being there, we needed him at the time," Baartz said. "We didn't have any other options, but he probably ended up staying too long, for a number of reasons.

"Now the club has to move in a different direction and I think this is an opportunity that should be explored with a bit more enthusiasm."

After a 60-year involvement in Newcastle football, Baartz said he had "been there, done that" and had no desire for any hands-on role with the Jets' next incarnation.

"I'll always support the team, but I'm busy enough looking after my grandkids," he said.
Search for coach continues

By JAMES GARDINER

THE search for a new Jets coach will continue at least into next week.

Football Federation Australia confirmed on Friday that it had held talks with Fox Sports analyst Mark Rudan but revealed others were in the mix. It is understood the FFA is committed to having a head coach and assistants in place before the squad assemble for pre-season training on June 22.

Tony Vidmar, Damian Mori, Paul Okon and local hopefuls Mark Jones and Clayton Zane have been touted as candidates.

Rudan remains the frontrunner, but the Herald understands that negotiations have stalled between him and FFA.

Meanwhile, the bulk of the Jets’ 15 players are expected to sign new contracts with Football Federation Australia by early next week.

FFA and the players union signed an agreement on Monday guaranteeing that outstanding entitlements from Nathan Tinkler would be met.

The Herald understands like-for-like contracts to the deals the players were on were issued on Friday.

All bar keeper Mark Birighitti, who has been on loan at Italian Serie B club Varese, are expected to accept. The 24-year-old gloveman is now a free agent and his preference is to stay in Europe.

^^^^
Seriously Ray just keep your mouth shut!!!
FFA are doing their due diligence now (we hope) to ensure the same mistakes are not repeated again by just jumping into bed with the first "white knight" to announce they want to own the Jets. To urge FFA to "fast track" the process and give Thompson control of the Jets shows just how out of touch Baartz has become and it is little wonder the club was run how it was when he was Chairman.
There should be no time-frame on getting the right ownership in place, we have to get it right this time and so be it if in due course Thompson does take a part in the running of the club, but for now NO MORE RASH DECISIONS MADE IN HASTE BECAUSE ON THE SURFACE THEY APPEAR A GREAT THING TO DO!!!


My exact sentiments too. Well said.

[militiamon]

Yep, nailed it stopper. Baartz was part of the problem with the last administration (or should it be the one before that?), shouldn't be given a say in anything.

[hawk]

Baartzy & running football clubs should not be in the same sentence

[tomo]

I agree stopper. But i do think thompson is the way to go. Let him build a consortium and then put a proposal to FFA. He's not interested in being a sole owner, so they cant "fast track" it when he hasnt got parties involved

[GazFish35]

I'll be bringing this up at the forum in a few weeks. All 14 home matches should be at our home.

I will allow it if the FFA want to pay for all supporters travel and accommodation for the Geelong trip

FFA shouldn't have to pay for us to travel to geelong.
Melbourne victory should.

[MFKS]

Don't know what you are worried about.

The Gypsy ****s are broke and will do anything for a quid.

They will save Victree from the issue

[Jeterpool]

Jacob Pepper


75 appearances for the Jets, including 74 A-League matches and 1 FFA cup appearances
Jacob was the 84th player capped by the Jets in all competitions and is ranked 12th in number of A-League appearances for the Jets.
Scored 2 goals, both in the one match against Melbourne Victory.
Provided 3 assists during his time with the club.
Booked 8 times and sent off once.
Captained the club 3 times as part of the 2014/15 Season rotation policy.
Pepper was consistently used by all previous managers. He was given his debut by Brank Culina (6 appearances) in Season 6 (2010/11).


Scott Neville


43 appearances for the Jets, all of which were in the A-League
Scott was the 95th player capped by the Jets in all competitions and is ranked 33rd in number of A-League appearances for the Jets.
Scored 3 goals and provided 2 assists during his time with the club.
Booked 6 times but was never sent off.
Neville was given his Jets debut by Gary van Egmond in 2012/13 season after being recruited from Perth Glory. Neville suffered an ACL injury in 2013/14 Rd 9 match against Melbourne Victory which was the 1000th match in the A-League competition.

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Newcastle Jets commence take-off with FLIGHT CENTRE

Newcastle Jets are pleased to welcome airfare experts FLIGHT CENTRE on board as the first fresh partner of the evolving Hyundai A-League club.

FLIGHT CENTRE, a nationally recognised company with significant local connections via its centres and employees throughout Newcastle and Northern New South Wales, will be acknowledged as the ‘Official Travel Agent of the Newcastle Jets’ throughout the 2015-16 season.

Today Jets Chief Executive Officer, Mr Mitchell Murphy, visited FLIGHT CENTRE’s The Junction branch to acknowledge the commencement of the partnership – one that is set to provide benefits not only to FLIGHT CENTRE and the club, but also to Jets Members.

“FLIGHT CENTRE are leaders in their field and we aspire to be leaders in our field,” Mr Murphy said. “We are naturally delighted that at this very early stage of the club’s regeneration FLIGHT CENTRE have chosen to throw their support behind the Jets and football in Northern New South Wales.”

“While the club and FLIGHT CENTRE will share benefits from this partnership, there are some key components that have been included specifically for Jets Members. These will be outlined closer to the start of Hyundai A-League season 11, though the very nature of FLIGHT CENTRE’s business should give some hint as to what lucky Members may be in for.”

Jets Members and supporters will notice the club’s partnership with FLIGHT CENTRE being activated via its digital and social channels, member communications, as well as at selected Hunter Stadium held matches throughout Hyundai A-League season 11.

FLIGHT CENTRE New South Wales Marketing Manager, Enzina Scarcella, said: “We are delighted to be partnering with the Newcastle Jets for their 2015-16 season and are really looking forward to the opportunity it presents to promote the world of travel to local Jets fans.”

In the Newcastle Jets fan catchment, FLIGHT CENTRE possesses an impressive 24 centres. Indeed, Jets supporters can score great holiday and travel deals in Hamilton, Charlestown, Glendale, Kotara, Warners Bay, The Junction, Newcastle (two stores), Jesmond, Raymond Terrace, Salamander Bay, Singleton, Cessnock, Cardiff, Morisset, Belmont, Toronto, Coffs Harbour, Forster, Grafton, Port Macquarie, Settlement City, Taree, and Toormina.

Newcastle Jets expect to be in a position to announce further commercial partnerships ahead of the 2015-16 Hyundai A-League season over the coming weeks.


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