Daily Australian News Thread 2015

[MFKS]

Tinkler telling lies??

Say it isn't so


Does he ever tell the truth??

[Jeterpool]

Tinkler telling lies??

Say it isn't so


Does he ever tell the truth??

At the end of the interview he said he wanted to go get a beer. That was truthful

[Premy]

Not quite Football news but it involves a Football jurno.

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/sbs-reporter-scott-mcintyre-sparks-outrage-on-twitter-with-despicable-anzac-comments/story-fni0fit3-1227321086710

I hope the whole Football fraternity ostracize this piece of shit.

[Thomas477]

Well he's just been sacked, so credit to sbs for acting swiftly, and cutting costs at the same time.

[plague]

Not quite Football news but it involves a Football jurno.

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/sbs-reporter-scott-mcintyre-sparks-outrage-on-twitter-with-despicable-anzac-comments/story-fni0fit3-1227321086710

I hope the whole Football fraternity ostracize this piece of shit.

Just a silly little child feeling all sad that the world has turned its attention elsewhere for a moment.

Twitter is swiftly becoming a great companion to the old saying 'give them enough rope'.

[Frodo]

Australians commemorating Anzac Day were “poorly-read ... drinkers and gamblers”.

Not exactly wrong with this statement..

Cue Outrage!

[plague]

Not exactly wrong with this statement..

Cue Outrage!

Yeah but we're "drinkers and gamblers" every day of the year.

I'm assuming he's just as tut-tutty towards anyone having a beer on Christmas Day or over the Easter weekend too.

[plague]

Besides, I've never seen anyone 'celebrating' Anzac Day in my life.

To think that as a country we are running around saying 'yay war!!' is both naive and foolish.

[GazFish35]

Besides, I've never seen anyone 'celebrating' Anzac Day in my life.

To think that as a country we are running around saying 'yay war!!' is both naive and foolish.

Oh I've seen plenty using it as nothing more than an excuse to blind rotten drunk.
There's plenty of folk around who see it as nothing more than a day off work to get legless and show no respect whatsoever for those who the day is actually about remembering and saying thank you to.

[GazFish35]

In other news.....

Reegs got members player of the year.


Cue his sacking.

[GazFish35]

Oh and plague, check your pm's

[GazFish35]

Hoole got player of the year.

Ffs

[MFKS]

In other news.....

Reegs got members player of the year.


Cue his sacking.

No he didn't

I picked Griff

[plague]

Oh I've seen plenty using it as nothing more than an excuse to blind rotten drunk.
There's plenty of folk around who see it as nothing more than a day off work to get legless and show no respect whatsoever for those who the day is actually about remembering and saying thank you to.

Yes but that's got nothing to do with why Anzac Day exists. What those people do on their day off isn't related to Anzac Day itself.
Anzac Day has never been about celebrating war. The dope from SBS was plain wrong (as well as ignorant).

[stopper2]

Yes but that's got nothing to do with why Anzac Day exists. What those people do on their day off isn't related to Anzac Day itself.
Anzac Day has never been about celebrating war. The dope from SBS was plain wrong (as well as ignorant).

Comes down to, that something as deep and complex as war should not be aired on twitter. If he had an opinion, he should have aired it on a Blog and after ANZAC Day. There are a lot of "grey" areas in war and conflict and depending on which side you come from someones views cannot be simply viewed as "plain wrong and ignorant. After all the Turks looked at the ANZAC's as invaders of their country....is that wrong?

[Maito Mitch]

Hoole got player of the year.

Ffs

As an attacking midfielder how many goals and assists did he get this season?

And he's player of the year.... Says a lot

[MFKS]

Yes but that's got nothing to do with why Anzac Day exists. What those people do on their day off isn't related to Anzac Day itself.
Anzac Day has never been about celebrating war. The dope from SBS was plain wrong (as well as ignorant).

What exactly was wrong with his statements??

Hiroshima and Nagasaki are arguably the greatest acts of terrorism in a single day by man kind on another civilian population and Australia is responsible for their role in it.

Innocent school Children were killed in Hiroshima


Anzac Day is glamorising to cult level an attempted invasion of a foreign nation that we had no quarrel with


The remarks directed at those who see Anzac Day as a day to get on the piss and gamble and not reflect on the horrors inflicted from war on all sides involved are fair comment

As for his remarks about the conduct of Australian Soldiers in wartime. Plenty of examples of Australians not acting in appropriate manner



The big issue here is more my lefty ****ing nutters abusing free speech and vilifying someone cause they don't agree with them

[parksey]

What exactly was wrong with his statements??

Hiroshima and Nagasaki are arguably the greatest acts of terrorism in a single day by man kind on another civilian population and Australia is responsible for their role in it.

Innocent school Children were killed in Hiroshima


Anzac Day is glamorising to cult level an attempted invasion of a foreign nation that we had no quarrel with


The remarks directed at those who see Anzac Day as a day to get on the piss and gamble and not reflect on the horrors inflicted from war on all sides involved are fair comment

As for his remarks about the conduct of Australian Soldiers in wartime. Plenty of examples of Australians not acting in appropriate manner



The big issue here is more my lefty ****ing nutters abusing free speech and vilifying someone cause they don't agree with them

pls

[GazFish35]

1083

Some poorly chosen words, no doubt.
Has differing views most likely from living in japan.

Not really worth losing your job with a public broadcaster though.

[plague]

1083

Some poorly chosen words, no doubt.
Has differing views most likely from living in japan.

Not really worth losing your job with a public broadcaster though.

poorly chosen words?
nah, he was after a reaction and he got one.
just not the one he expected.

[plague]

What exactly was wrong with his statements??

Hiroshima and Nagasaki are arguably the greatest acts of terrorism in a single day by man kind on another civilian population and Australia is responsible for their role in it. Australia has never even tried to hide its remorse at their involvement. Anzac Day isnt about Hiroshima.

Innocent school Children were killed in Hiroshima Innocent people were killed at Pearl Harbour, Sydney Harbour and in PNG. whats your point? war is shitty, no one is celebrating war.


Anzac Day is glamorising to cult level an attempted invasion of a foreign nation that we had no quarrel with wrong. do some reading.


The remarks directed at those who see Anzac Day as a day to get on the piss and gamble and not reflect on the horrors inflicted from war on all sides involved are fair comment the people getting on the piss have nothing to do with Anzac Day. people are drinking because they have a day off. not because they are celebrating war.

As for his remarks about the conduct of Australian Soldiers in wartime. Plenty of examples of Australians not acting in appropriate manner which is why Anzac Day, like remembrance day and hiroshima day are there to remind everyone about all the shitty things war brings to all people from all parts of the world. to just ignore these things ever happened is plain ignorance.



The big issue here is more my lefty ****ing nutters abusing free speech and vilifying someone cause they don't agree with them nope, free speech is fine. he is entitled to it. he just has to accept the consequences.

please shut up.

[plague]

Also: not sure if you've been to Hiroshima, but i have.
They have quite a big memorial park and museum set up there (you know, remembering the past).
The thing that stood out to me was that Japan in no way tries to lay 'blame' for what happened on anyone and acknowledges their role in the war and what led up to the bombings. nor is there any resentment to the many westerners who pass through the place. its all about education in the hope no one ever has to go through that again.
it was quite an incredible display of humility and reinforced the fact there is nothing ever good about war.

[Blackmac79]

If people wanted to really remember and respect the Anzacs we would stop fighting imperialist wars for other countries.

Good on scott.

[Frodo]

Wow.. Who the fudge honestly thinks Hoole was our best player this year? He wasn't even our best winger. Or our best youth player. Or our best local player...

[q-money]

oi, take your anzac politicking to the politics thread ya knobs

[plague]

oi, take your anzac politicking to the politics thread ya knobs

I thought it was tradition that once the season was over all threads merge and end up in our usual Katie v Zooey debate?

My bad.

Anyway back on topic who voted for the player of the year award? Was it players/media or fans?

[Hunter403]

I voted Carney to pi55 off the Muppet and his boss

[MFKS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG5dvJ-HGWk

[hawk]

What exactly was wrong with his statements??

Hiroshima and Nagasaki are arguably the greatest acts of terrorism in a single day by man kind on another civilian population and Australia is responsible for their role in it.

Innocent school Children were killed in Hiroshima


Anzac Day is glamorising to cult level an attempted invasion of a foreign nation that we had no quarrel with


The remarks directed at those who see Anzac Day as a day to get on the piss and gamble and not reflect on the horrors inflicted from war on all sides involved are fair comment

As for his remarks about the conduct of Australian Soldiers in wartime. Plenty of examples of Australians not acting in appropriate manner



The big issue here is more my lefty ****ing nutters abusing free speech and vilifying someone cause they don't agree with them

load of sh1t. got what he wanted. no work.

[parksey]

If people wanted to really remember and respect the Anzacs we would stop fighting imperialist wars for other countries.

Good on scott.

blackmac gets how the world works hey

[q-money]

There is no debate, both are eminently fappable.

hoole over regan tho just

[hawk]

If people wanted to really remember and respect the Anzacs we would stop fighting imperialist wars for other countries.

Good on scott.

so some modern day punk has a gripe against conflicts that we wished we didn't have to go to but used courage to participate in anyway.

[Blackmac79]

blackmac gets how the world works hey

Way the world works is rubbish. It doesn't have to be the way it is so why be satisfied with the status quo

[Blackmac79]

so some modern day punk has a gripe against conflicts that we wished we didn't have to go to but used courage to participate in anyway.

Misconstrued. Modern day punk wants to know why we don't seem to learn lessons.

[pv4]

Wow.. Who the fudge honestly thinks Hoole was our best player this year? He wasn't even our best winger. Or our best youth player. Or our best local player...

For me, Hoole And Caravella were the only two options for player of the year.

I don't understand why members voted for Regan for the members player. It HAD to be one of the three who told Stubbins what they really thoight of the player sackings, not one of the "head down, get a contract for the next 10 years" guys.

[q-money]

why be satisfied with the status quo
my wife's pretty happy ay

[MFKS]

Herald football writer JAMES GARDINER reflects on a bitterly disappointing season for the Jets and looks to the future with coach Phil Stubbins.

WHERE to for the Newcastle Jets?

Where do you start?

For a fifth straight season, the club's 10th anniversary, the campaign opened with renewed optimism.

A fresh pilot, Phil Stubbins, full of enthusiasm, delivered an all-too familiar promise of finals football.

In truth, the Jets were shot down almost before they left the runway.

Poor recruitment. Too many players with question marks. Players coming back from long-term injuries, others new to the A-League, some at the last-chance saloon. All high risk.

A rookie head coach who had success as an assistant but had spent the past two years in Thailand after a short period at the AIS.

A front office restricted by a lack of autonomy and resources.





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Financially embattled owner Nathan Tinkler showed his intent by putting the "for sale" sign up, adding in his usual blunt style that he "can't wait to get them out the door" before performing a mid-season backflip.

Still, hope remained.

Certainly few foresaw the horror show that played out.

Twenty-seven games produced just three wins, a meagre 17 points and a second wooden spoon.

The issues were at both ends. They leaked a whopping 55 goals and scored a meagre 23 for a goal difference of minus 32. All totals were the worst in the league.

The result was a train wreck - the worst campaign in the club's history. A major overhaul is needed.

Stubbins remains at the helm - a breaking point for many previously rusted on fans - and, along with new chief executive Mitchell Murphy, is charged with the remake.

Essentially, that process began in late January when Tinkler, at the prompting of Stubbins, moved to sack captain Kew Jaliens, all-time leading goal scorer Joel Griffiths and senior players David Carney, Billy Celeski and Adrian Madaschi.

All have departed bar Carney, who has a year to run on his $235,000 a season contract - nearly a tenth of the $2.55 million salary cap.

The catalyst for the unprecedented action was a shambolic 7-0 loss to Adelaide United in round 15 - another club worst.

Support staff Clayton Zane, Neil Young and Andrew Packer were also ushered out. In the weeks before, Sam Gallaway and Marcos Flores were released. Argentinian striker Jeronimo Neumann followed soon after.

Reasons for the mid-season clean-out have varied.

Undisputed is that the senior players had serious concerns over the direction under Stubbins.

"There are no regrets whatsoever," Stubbins said with regard to the mass sackings.

"When you want to improve things there are times when you need to be strong and make decisions."

The Jets were on eight points with one win and their finals hopes gone. In the 12 rounds since the flashpoint, they have picked up nine points, highlighted by wins over a second-string Wanderers and league favourites Melbourne Victory.

Daniel Mullen, Lee Ki-je and Enver Alivodic have proved valuable additions to the roster. Whether the Jets would have fared better or worse with the initial squad is debatable.

With the input of new assistants James Pascoe and Mark Jones, they have been better structured, harder to break down and in recent weeks expanded their attack.

The first building blocks have been laid.

Lee and Mullen have extended their stay as has promising attacker Mitch Cooper. Nigel Boogaard is the first of what will be a blanket of new faces.

"We have started by trying to get a grounding at the back," Stubbins said.

Serbian winger Enver Alivodic is close to finalising a new deal.

The future of striker Edson Montano, Taylor Regan, Sam Gallagher, James Virgili, Nick Cowburn, Allan Welsh, Travis Cooper and Max Burgess could be determined as early as Monday. It's doubtful many will be retained.

"Looking at the front third, we need more goals," Stubbins said. "Enver has shown that he is capable of both scoring goals and assisting in a way that is productive.

"Edson finished with three goals in three games to take his tally to six.

"Has it been enough over the course of the campaign? I would say it is OK, fair. " would also say Edson has a lot more in his locker."

Zenon Caravella has been released, Andrew Hoole is headed to Sydney FC, Scott Neville wants out of the final year of his contract and Mark Birighitti, who is on-loan at Italian Serie B club Varese, is unlikely to return.

It's conceivable the Jets could have more than a dozen places to fill on the roster.

Tinkler has promised that the Jets will use their full salary cap and marquee players allowances. They have been linked to a number of Australian-based players headed by Bernie Ibini, Mickael Tavares, Zac Anderson and Jamie Maclaren.

Then there was the recent outlandish claim from Tinkler that the club was in the hunt for English Premier League striker Peter Crouch, although the Jets owner did not seem aware that the former England man had signed a new two-year deal with Stoke in January.

Untried duo Themba Muata-Marlow (Sydney FC) and Andy Brennan (South Melbourne) are understood to have signed two-year deals.

"There is opportunity to bring in fresh blood and that will happen," Stubbins said.

"We have a lot to sift through in terms of the cap, what we can and can't afford, how we balance it all. We certainly need more attacking flair from the central area. We have Mitch Cooper, Josh Barresi, who we haven't seen in the jersey yet, Ben Kantarovski and Jacob Pepper who are already signed.

"We need goals, so we need players alongside the four we have mentioned with real quality.

"We need more creation and effective outcomes in terms of goals."

Targeting quality players is one thing, signing them is another.

Newcastle have struggled in recent seasons to attract the pick of the crop.

Tinkler's fall has been well documented.

Players talk.

The late payment of wages for the past three months, combined with outstanding superannuation and a string of other controversies have damaged the club's reputation. The Australian Tax Office has a garnishee order that enables it to take the club's monthly A-League grant that is meant to cover wages, tax and player entitlements.

But Stubbins remains optimistic

"We have to make Newcastle an attractive option," he said. "We have to give players confidence about where we are trying to take the club.

"It's not about plugging gaps, we are trying to breach the teams that are above us.

"This season we have entered every game as an underdog. We want to be favourites.

"We need to change that.

"The challenge for myself is to attract good players to the football club."

Fans have deserted the Jets in droves.

From a base of 10,000 members, an average of just 7189 fans turned up for the final five home games, which included visits from neighbours the Mariners and Sydney FC.

How many of those will be back next season?

"Signings are obviously going to give people hope," Stubbins said. "If we bring in quality players fans will get excited. We try to build some momentum. The pre-season starts, there is a fresh outlook, hopefully we start in a good vein, win some games and take that into the season proper."

The criticism of Stubbins, largely from long-suffering fans, has been relentless and understandable given the lack of success. The coach has remained steadfast and refused to buckle.

"For me personally it has been a disappointing campaign, one certainly of learning," he said. "Now I have the advantage of being involved for a year at the club.

"I have a total licence to bring in the players I feel can improve the club. Having the autonomy to make the decisions yourself, along with debate and transparency with the staff.

"We have a very functional environment in terms of the coaching staff and everything else now. Although we haven't won as many games as we would have liked, we have been very close, certainly over the last eight weeks or so. That is something we can build on."


Jimmy Gardiner telling it how it is :brrr:

[Premy]

Having the autonomy to make the decisions yourself, along with debate and transparency with the staff. :wanker:

[stopper2]

Jimmy Gardiner telling it how it is :brrr:

Yep, I wonder if Tinks will be after Jimmy now for "spreading cancer"?
His article is the cold, hard reality of the situation of how deep a hole this club is in.

[stopper2]

For me, Hoole And Caravella were the only two options for player of the year.

I don't understand why members voted for Regan for the members player. It HAD to be one of the three who told Stubbins what they really thoight of the player sackings, not one of the "head down, get a contract for the next 10 years" guys.

That's the culture they want to breed into the club....just put your head down and don't complain, don't question and don't disagree. Will be interesting to see how a team of soulless "yes men" performs next season under a dictator who has fear instilled into them.

[Jeterpool]

Yep, I wonder if Tinks will be after Jimmy now for "spreading cancer"?
His article is the cold, hard reality of the situation of how deep a hole this club is in.

Yep, agree.

I have an inkling that things are going to kick off again once the FFA are clear of the grand final. I can see them (the FFA) thinking "lets get to the end of the season and we'll take it from there".

As I keep saying, the FFA have a product to protect so they can get the best possible deal from fox with the tv rights for sale next year (is it next year?)

[plague]

That's the culture they want to breed into the club....just put your head down and don't complain, don't question and don't disagree. Will be interesting to see how a team of soulless "yes men" performs next season under a dictator who has fear instilled into them.

To be fair it worked pretty well at Manchester United for a long long time.

[stopper2]

Yep, agree.

I have an inkling that things are going to kick off again once the FFA are clear of the grand final. I can see them (the FFA) thinking "lets get to the end of the season and we'll take it from there".

As I keep saying, the FFA have a product to protect so they can get the best possible deal from fox with the tv rights for sale next year (is it next year?)

We can only hope this is the situation!

My opinion of the FFA has plummeted in recent months though, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

[The Postman]

Branko Culina just became available...

[stopper2]

To be fair it worked pretty well at Manchester United for a long long time.

You can't tell me the likes of Keane and Cantona were "yes men"?

A good coach knows how to manage these maverick types and get the best out of them to his advantage....this Muppet just wipes people who aren't on the same page as him.....fair comment???

[plague]

You can't tell me the likes of Keane and Cantona were "yes men"?

Well considering Fergie won every player/coach fight Id say it was very much his way or **** off.

[stopper2]

Well considering Fergie won every player/coach fight Id say it was very much his way or **** off.

Missed my whole point, Fergie knew how to manage players with strong characters like Keane and Cantona.

There is no way he would've allowed shit in his squad to deteriorate to the point where it was either him or the players.

Yes, Fergie and Beckham had a falling-out but this gradually happened over a number of years, this Muppet within a few months into his tenure had obviously lost the support and faith of his senior players and eventually the rest of the squad.

[plague]

Missed my whole point, Fergie knew how to manage players with strong characters like Keane and Cantona.


Yes, Fergie and Beckham had a falling-out but this gradually happened over a number of years

.....and Keane, and Staam, and Bosnich, and Ferdinand.
Geez, he even put Baby Rooney in the corner.

And you missed my point.

Ferguson wanted people on his same page to coach. The players he had obviously were up until the point he didn't then he ****ed them off.

Stubbins thinks he can do the same thing, whether he cannot can't remains to be seen. If you want to call people on his same page 'yes men' then great. But he wants a certain type of player and if can make it work then great.

just remember Guardiola got rid of both Zlatan and Eto'o in their primes because they didn't fit his style of management.

Didn't seem to hurt.

[Premy]

.....and Keane, and Staam, and Bosnich, and Ferdinand.
Geez, he even put Baby Rooney in the corner.

And you missed my point.

Ferguson wanted people on his same page to coach. The players he had obviously were up until the point he didn't then he ****ed them off.

Stubbins thinks he can do the same thing, whether he cannot can't remains to be seen. If you want to call people on his same page 'yes men' then great. But he wants a certain type of player and if can make it work then great.

just remember Guardiola got rid of both Zlatan and Eto'o in their primes because they didn't fit his style of management.

Didn't seem to hurt.
Yep there was only one ego allowed at United and that was Ferguson, yiu either toed the line or you we're shipped out.

As to Guardiola Zlatan and Samuel didn't fit in with the little master that's why they got the boot.

[The Dunster]

Ferguson's approach worked at Man United but I seriously doubt his style would work at the Jets.
Ferguson could pretty much buy or sell players at will so it really wasn't that big of a deal punting anyone.
Give him a crap club with bugger all money and he'd be in all sorts of trouble.

[lil_masi]

Ferguson's approach worked at Man United but I seriously doubt his style would work at the Jets.
Ferguson could pretty much buy or sell players at will so it really wasn't that big of a deal punting anyone.
Give him a crap club with bugger all money and he'd be in all sorts of trouble.

Agree with this statement

[plague]

Ferguson's approach worked at Man United but I seriously doubt his style would work at the Jets.
Ferguson could pretty much buy or sell players at will so it really wasn't that big of a deal punting anyone.
Give him a crap club with bugger all money and he'd be in all sorts of trouble.

Totally agree, I don't think Stubbins can pull it off either.
But I can understand why he's trying it.

[MFKS]

Plague nearly all your points made are completely redundant when you are comparing the workings of Managers at the elite levels who actually have strong clubs around them and an ability to make decisions and back them up with results.

We on the other hand have Monty Burns not paying the bills a Muppet with 3 wins to his name and a shambles of a club

Like comparing the works of Da Vinci and Monet with a 4year old retarded pre schooler FFS

[plague]

Plague nearly all your points made are completely redundant when you are comparing the workings of Managers at the elite levels who actually have strong clubs around them and an ability to make decisions and back them up with results.

We on the other hand have Monty Burns not paying the bills a Muppet with 3 wins to his name and a shambles of a club

Like comparing the works of Da Vinci and Monet with a 4year old retarded pre schooler FFS

Oh I'm sorry do we play with 13 blokes on the field in Australia? Or bigger goals? Or the aim is to not win games or the league?

Ok I'll go over it slowly for you blokes who can't read:

1. I think Stubbins is from an era of coaches (stereotypically old white Anglo blokes) who go down the 'blood and Thunder do or die for the shirt" cliche fest that seemed to go out of favour around the time the dinosaurs left this earth.

2. I personally don't think that type of man management works any more, but what I am saying is that there has been a time and place where that style worked and he's trying to copy it.

3. to say he shouldn't mould himself on an EPL coach is stupid because then you are also saying he shouldn't learn anything from the other successful coaches ive already mentioned because our club isn't run like Barca or the San Antonio Spurs.

4. He's got to get his inspiration from somewhere, and he's trying to copy someone who had success.


How hard is it to comprehend that?

[MFKS]

Oh I'm sorry do we play with 13 blokes on the field in Australia? Or bigger goals? Or the aim is to not win games or the league?

Ok I'll go over it slowly for you blokes who can't read:

1. I think Stubbins is from an era of coaches (stereotypically old white Anglo blokes) who go down the 'blood and Thunder do or die for the shirt" cliche fest that seemed to go out of favour around the time the dinosaurs left this earth.

2. I personally don't think that type of man management works any more, but what I am saying is that there has been a time and place where that style worked and he's trying to copy it.

3. to say he shouldn't mould himself on an EPL coach is stupid because then you are also saying he shouldn't learn anything from the other successful coaches ive already mentioned because our club isn't run like Barca or the San Antonio Spurs.

4. He's got to get his inspiration from somewhere, and he's trying to copy someone who had success.


How hard is it to comprehend that?

FFS Plague.

I can't believe a man of your intelligence wasted that much typing to reply to my post in that much detail


:trolls:

[plague]

FFS Plague.

I can't believe a man of your intelligence wasted that much typing to reply to my post in that much detail


:trolls:

Don't flatter yourself.
There's a few on here having trouble reading.

You are just batting practice.

[Thomas477]

So what ended up happening with that mid season club review? Or did that get swept under the carpet?

[MFKS]

So what ended up happening with that mid season club review? Or did that get swept under the carpet?

Wasn't that Middleby buying himself some time??

[stopper2]

.....and Keane, and Staam, and Bosnich, and Ferdinand.
Geez, he even put Baby Rooney in the corner.

And you missed my point.

Ferguson wanted people on his same page to coach. The players he had obviously were up until the point he didn't then he ****ed them off.

Stubbins thinks he can do the same thing, whether he cannot can't remains to be seen. If you want to call people on his same page 'yes men' then great. But he wants a certain type of player and if can make it work then great.

just remember Guardiola got rid of both Zlatan and Eto'o in their primes because they didn't fit his style of management.

Didn't seem to hurt.

Now you've gone off on a completely different tangent to the original point I was trying to make.

Nothing worse when trying to have a debate with someone who "knows it all"!!!

[stopper2]

Oh I'm sorry do we play with 13 blokes on the field in Australia? Or bigger goals? Or the aim is to not win games or the league?

Ok I'll go over it slowly for you blokes who can't read:

1. I think Stubbins is from an era of coaches (stereotypically old white Anglo blokes) who go down the 'blood and Thunder do or die for the shirt" cliche fest that seemed to go out of favour around the time the dinosaurs left this earth.

2. I personally don't think that type of man management works any more, but what I am saying is that there has been a time and place where that style worked and he's trying to copy it.

3. to say he shouldn't mould himself on an EPL coach is stupid because then you are also saying he shouldn't learn anything from the other successful coaches ive already mentioned because our club isn't run like Barca or the San Antonio Spurs.

4. He's got to get his inspiration from somewhere, and he's trying to copy someone who had success.


How hard is it to comprehend that?

In other words Stubbins is basically just a "try hard"?

[stopper2]

Wasn't that Middleby buying himself some time??

Didn't old Bridgey have some "input" in that club review???

[plague]

Nothing worse when trying to have a debate with someone who "knows it all"!!!

sorry cuz, you seem to have me confused with the good Member over there.

Ta though.

[plague]

So what ended up happening with that mid season club review? Or did that get swept under the carpet?

We should get Captain Obvious to do it.

[MFKS]

sorry cuz, you seem to have me confused with the good Member over there.

Ta though.

Don't drag me into it cause Stopper got your number Plague :rof:

[lquiquer]

So what ended up happening with that mid season club review? Or did that get swept under the carpet?

oooh we had it......Muppet consulted himself and sacked 5 players and 3 coaches.......

[MFKS]

SERBIAN midfielder Enver Alivodic is expected to sign a new two-year deal with the Newcastle Jets while up to eight other players will learn their fate on Tuesday.

Alivodic joined the Jets in February on a short-term contract and has impressed with two goals in nine games.

The 30-year-old's influence has grown as his fitness has improved, providing penetration and a class down the right wing.

His signature, which could be as early as Tuesday, will fill the second of five visa spots available.

Korean left back Lee Ki-je put pen two paper on a two-year extension this month.

Striker Edson Montano is the other import on the Jets roster after the mid-season departure of Jonny Steele, Marcos Flores, and Jeronimo Neumann. Steele was granted leave after round three before being released in January.

Montano, 23, who scored three goals in the final three games to finish with six, is on loan from Ecuadorean club Barcelona which makes his situation more complex than the others off contract.

Apart from the overseas players, the future of Taylor Regan, Sam Gallagher, James Virgili, Allan Welsh, Travis Cooper, Max Burgess and John Solari are unclear.

Nick Cowburn, who was promoted from the youth team and made eight appearances in the A-League late in the season, is also hoping to secure a senior contract.





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The future of loaned-out keeper Mark Birighitti, who finally made his debut for Serie B cellar dwellers Varese in 1-0 loss to Vinceza on Sunday, is also to be determined.

The off-contract players will meet individually with coach Phil Stubbins from Tuesday.

Regan, who started in 16 games and captained the side in three, was named members' player of the year at the club's awards ceremony on Sunday.

The 26-year-old has been in talks with the club but the addition of former Sydney defender Themba Muata-Marlow (Sydney FC), whose contract is expected to be confirmed on Wednesday, could squeeze him out.

It is a similar situation with fellow local product James Virgili, who has not played since breaking his ankle in January.

Western Sydney Wanderers have shown an interest in both.

The Asian champions and Melbourne City have also had preliminary talks with Cowburn's manager.

After collecting the wooden spoon, Stubbins said "there is opportunity to bring in fresh blood and that will happen".

Muata-Marlow aside, the majority of additions are expected to be in the front third.

Hobart-born South Melbourne striker Andy Brennan is understood to have agreed to terms. The Jets are also believed to be keen on Perth frontman Jamie Maclaren, who is in the sights of Melbourne Victory.

The Jets will continue to train until May 15.

They start pre-season on June 22.



Now explain to me why we are training for another 2 weeks??

Surely as nearly half our squad for next year is not here yet or signed for that matter surely the extra 2 weeks could be used then in pre season to work on structures etc for next season rather than work with a dozen blokes who ain't gonna be here next season.

Surely also the squad breaking up for a couple of weeks would actually give everyone a chance to clear their heads and get in a better frame of mind

Not exactly ****ing intelligent stuff from Jets HQ but then again no surprise

[Hunter403]

Nice article by David Lowe in the Herald today. Pretty blunt assessment

[Frodo]

Now explain to me why we are training for another 2 weeks??

Surely as nearly half our squad for next year is not here yet or signed for that matter surely the extra 2 weeks could be used then in pre season to work on structures etc for next season rather than work with a dozen blokes who ain't gonna be here next season.

Surely also the squad breaking up for a couple of weeks would actually give everyone a chance to clear their heads and get in a better frame of mind

Not exactly ****ing intelligent stuff from Jets HQ but then again no surprise

I'd say give the off contract players 2 weeks of full contact training to prove that they deserve to be back next year, no excuses about needing to rest up for the weekend. Plus get them back in for pre season at the start of June. We need longer than everyone else to learn how to play football again.

[GazFish35]

We need longer than everyone else to learn how to play football again.

Agreed, but do we have someone who can teach them?

[Jeterpool]

I expect an announcement to come out today regarding players not being retained, reading into what the Herald are saying. It's like redundancy day at work.

[lquiquer]

So Franjic back in oz after leaving his Russian club...

1086

[Hunter403]

So Franjic back in oz after leaving his Russian club...

1086

Quitting over unpaid wages? He'd fit right in here.......:whistling::whistling:

[MFKS]

Quitting over unpaid wages? He'd fit right in here.......:whistling::whistling:

Your forgetting he is a pretty good player.

For that reason he would not fit in here

[Jetmaster]

Current Socceroo - hence FFA will ensure he plays in Sydney or Melbourne.

[BodyNovo]

he will sign for city and we will bring back hoffman and play him as a striker

[gd___]

Now explain to me why we are training for another 2 weeks??


Is it a coincidence that they are training up untill what would otherwise by their (non) payday?

[The Postman]

Is it a coincidence that they are training up untill what would otherwise by their (non) payday?

All 10 of them

[borat]

Weren't we rumoured to be negotiating with a current Socceroo?

[Mark325]

Weren't we rumoured to be negotiating with a current Socceroo?

I remember hearing rumour we were negotiating with a New Zealand international

[The Postman]

What's Chris Killen up to these days?

[Grimario]

I remember hearing rumour we were negotiating with a New Zealand international

Ivan Vicelich?

[Buddha]

Rory Fallon

[lquiquer]

I remember hearing rumour we were negotiating with a New Zealand international

Clint?

[Thomas477]

Tim Brown?
Vaughan Coveny?
Steven Old?

[plague]

Karl Dodd.

Bring him home Tinks.

[Premy]

Jeremy Brockie on his way back, from memory he married a Newy lass did he not?

[GazFish35]

Shattered Regan shown the door at beloved club | Newcastle Herald


Taylor Regan. Pic: Brock Perks

HOME-grown Jets defender Taylor Regan entered a meeting with coach Phil Stubbins on Tuesday expecting the club to deliver a new deal.

Instead, the whole-hearted 26-year-old was dealt the heart-breaking news that he was not apart of the club’s plans.

Regan was one of four players alongside fellow Novocastrian James Virgili, utility Sam Gallagher and trainee goalkeeper John Solari shown the door as the Jets begin a major overhaul following the worst season in the club’s history.

‘‘I was under the impression that I was going there [to the meeting with Stubbins] to be offered a deal,’’ a devastated Regan told the Herald.

‘‘I had been given assurances that there would be something on the table for me.

‘‘For whatever reason this morning I was notified that I was no longer required which was heart-breaking.’’

Regan would not be drawn on who promised what but The Herald has been told that owner Nathan Tinkler, Stubbins and chief executive Mitchell Murphy had indicated that he would be retained.

The most recent assurance came in the aftermath of the Jets’ 4-3 loss to Sydney FC in the final home game 11 days ago where Regan was told his contract would be ‘‘sorted out’’.

‘‘I haven’t been talking with anyone else,’’ Regan said. ‘‘I never wanted to leave this club.’’

In a statement, Stubbins said the coaching staff had delivered ‘‘tough decisions to some great people’’ and re-asserted the club’s commitment to building a squad capable of playing finals football next season.

When asked whether Regan’s future with the Jets had been guaranteed, a Jets spokesman said there was ‘‘nothing further to add beyond what has been released.’’

A graduate from the youth system, Regan has spent eight years at the club, playing 68 A-League games.

He was the inaugural winner of the prestigious Ray Baartz Medal in 2011-12 and on Sunday was named this season’s members club player of the year.

After the sacking of five senior players, including captain Kew Jaliens, in January, Regan was promoted to a leadership group which Stubbins said had helped create a new culture. But the impending arrival of Nigel Boogaard, combined with the re-signing of Daniel Mullen and the recruitment of former fringe Sydney FC defender Themba Muata-Marlow has squeezed the Dudley junior out.

‘‘I am a big enough boy to walk away and hold my head high knowing that every time I went on that pitch I gave 110 per cent for the jersey,’’ Regan said. ‘‘I may not have had the best game every week but I gave everything I had and tried to represent the community the best I could.

‘‘I love this club. More than anything I want to see it succeed. I believe the members and the fans deserve better than what we as a club have dished up for a few years.

‘‘I really hope the club moves forward, like they continue to talk about. Newcastle football has such a rich history, it is about time we start adding to that.’’

In a day of high drama, the Jets confirmed that Allan Welsh and Travis Cooper would not be offered contracts at this stage.

Serbian Enver Alivodic is close to re-signing and talks are continuing with Edson Montano and Max Burgess. Montano is on loan from Ecuadorian club Barcelona and would need to have his contract bought out, which is included in the salary cap.

Like Regan, Virgili is a local junior. The winger, who has played 57 A-League games, has been sidelined for three months with a broken ankle but was only informed of his release late Tuesday.

The future of emerging Toronto junior Nick Cowburn is also in doubt.

Awarded the youth team player of the year on Sunday, Cowburn made 10 A-League appearances at the tail of the season but has not been offered a senior contract.

“We’d love Nick Cowburn to stay at the club however with Scott Neville and Jacob Pepper contracted and able to fulfil the right back role, at this point we need to work within our salary cap and squad size parameters,” Stubbins said.

Western Sydney and Melbourne City have shown interest in the 20-year-old utility. If he exits, it would reduce the Newcastle-born contingent to Ben Kennedy, Ben Kantarovski, Jacob Pepper and Boogaard, who has signed a three-year deal.

The Jets, fresh from the worst season in club history, need to strengthen the squad, but the decision to release the local products, in particular, has met with disapproval.

China-based former Jets defender Josh Mitchell posted on Twitter: ‘‘More local lads gone from the Jets? Would love to see coaches actually coach & try to optimise players performance instead of replacing.’’

Jeremy Brockie added: ‘‘Gutted hearing the news of my good mate Taylor Regan! He works just as hard in the community with the kids as he does on the pitch.’’

Regan, who gets married next month, has started ‘‘learning the ropes’’ at a local real estate agent but is keen to continue playing football professionally.

‘‘I never like to go down without a fight and I will fight to make sure I can continue to play for as long as I can,’’ he said. ‘‘Maybe one day, hopefully, there is a door that opens to bring me back.

‘‘In the meantime, I will look elsewhere. There has been whispers previously about clubs being interested here and there.

‘‘I never really gave it any thought because I never wanted to leave. Now this has come and I have to start thinking about it.

‘‘Australia is a great place to play but financially Asia might be a better option.

‘‘I will have to sit down with my fiance, speak with everyone involved in the decision and make the best move for my family.’’

This is ****ing bullshit. Don't say one thing and do another phil.
This is why people are leaving, no one trusts a thing Tinkler or Stubbins say.

[Jeterpool]

This is ****ing bullshit. Don't say one thing and do another phil.
This is why people are leaving, no one trusts a thing Tinkler or Stubbins say.

And the club won't be drawn on this statement either.

[MFKS]

This is ****ing bullshit. Don't say one thing and do another phil.
This is why people are leaving, no one trusts a thing Tinkler or Stubbins say.

Just more lies and they wonder why no one respects them??

Take the situation with Roundabout. I have no issues with the decision to release him. I have no issues with not playing him if he has no future.
Why can't these people though stand by their decision and take ownership of it?? The lying seems to cause more issues and has no benefit.

FFS Just tell the ****ing truth and stand by your decision. People can respect that

[stopper2]

People point the finger at Stubbins and fair enough but Pascoe is a lying grub also.
As if he didn't know that Reegz was going to be shafted, was a comment on NBN last night that he was "surprised" on hereing about Reegz's fate. As if the Assistant coach didn't know who is not being kept on for next year.....give me a break!!!
Also who is responsible for bringing in all these Sydney boys to the club???.....Pascoe
I think it will be a disgrace if Cowburn, our Youth Player of the Year is overlooked for a contract and they offer one to a Sydney lad.....what message does this send about the whole Emerging/Youth Jets set-up???

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Just more lies and they wonder why no one respects them??

Take the situation with Roundabout. I have no issues with the decision to release him. I have no issues with not playing him if he has no future.
Why can't these people though stand by their decision and take ownership of it?? The lying seems to cause more issues and has no benefit.

FFS Just tell the ****ing truth and stand by your decision. People can respect that

Agree 100%...if this is the new culture that they are bringing to the club then they are even more cancerous than i thought.

[De-Champ]

I remember hearing rumour we were negotiating with a New Zealand international

I think it is a young guy that plays for south Melbourne, played for the junior all whites.

[ForeverRed]

Pascoe walks around with knives in his pocket, he'd be running out soon his used that many, after his trip to Brisbane with stubbins to knife Zane and others to promote himself he'd do well to restock after his latest stab at Reagan

[GazFish35]

I remember hearing rumour we were negotiating with a New Zealand international

Clint Gosling, new keeper

[ToddG NBUnited]

Clint Gosling, new keeper

Haha this would be awesome, would make him the only player to play for every incarnation of a Newcastle national league team.

[stopper2]

Been brought to my attention that in the last few days Gallop summoned Middleby and Baartz to a meeting in Sydney.
That to me indicates that Gallop must be starting to get quite concerned with the situation at the Jets.
Don't think Tinks would be too impressed if he where to here about this!

[Thomas477]

Been brought to my attention that in the last few days Gallop summoned Middleby and Baartz to a meeting in Sydney.
That to me indicates that Gallop must be starting to get quite concerned with the situation at the Jets.
Don't think Tinks would be too impressed if he where to here about this!

They're about 12 months too late. They've (RM and RB) already ****ed us over enough. Even under the current administration, we're doing better without those two mongs in charge.

Do we need to resurrect the Middleby Out thread?

[Jetmaster]

Obvious...."if we get rid of fat boy and FFA takes over, do you want your old jobs back?"

[GazFish35]

Reckon there the ones to give the best inside look.

[MFKS]

They come back please ****ing kill me

Good news is that since these two left my wheel barrow of gripes with them has increased 1000 fold

[hawk]

They come back please ****ing kill me

Good news is that since these two left my wheel barrow of gripes with them has increased 1000 fold

I fear this may happen member.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0GW0Vnr9Yc

[MFKS]

So any news at all which tinpot Euro Republik Stubbins is scouting at present???

Pretty certain that where ever it is they won't speak Ingles so as not to speak up at him.

From what I have heard Alivodic and LeakyG know as much Ingles as I know Serbian and Korean.


Can't see Muppet making the mistake of finding 3 other foreigners this year who may tell him what they really think and rock his Moving Backwards Plan

[Tommyjet]

[QUOTE=MFKS;120466]So any news at all which tinpot Euro Republik Stubbins is scouting at present???

Pretty certain that where ever it is they won't speak Ingles so as not to speak up at him.

From what I have heard Alivodic and LeakyG know as much Ingles as I know Serbian and Korean.


It would make too much sense to scout another Korean or a Serbian to combine with what we have got so I reckon he has gone to Greenland and Hungary

[Thomas477]

You forgot Latvia and Estonia.

[leftrightout]

You forgot Latvia and Estonia.

You forgot San Marino... they have had some decent results (when compared to stubbins record) and i hear majority of their players are free agents!

[The Northern Defender]

You forgot Latvia and Estonia.

Possibly Kazakstan ? Rumour is a gun midfielder named Borat!

(He has also been seen having a real good look at another player named Bruno.)

[Grimario]

You forgot San Marino... they have had some decent results (when compared to stubbins record) and i hear majority of their players are free agents!

Expect Andy Selva up front to replace Montano. Scored the winner against Liechtenstein, their only ever win.

[MFKS]

http://www.wholeoffootballplan.com.au/

No comment on this yet???

[Footyhead]

http://www.wholeoffootballplan.com.au/

No comment on this yet???

Facilities : fix our grounds so we can actually play

[tomo]

http://www.wholeoffootballplan.com.au/

No comment on this yet???

Jets are screwed then....
"Clubs will be held accountable for core functions and benchmarks that will help the league to grow."

[stopper2]

Jets are screwed then....
"Clubs will be held accountable for core functions and benchmarks that will help the league to grow."

Yep, this mob under Tinkler are turning people off the A League.
Consider two seasons ago (season 2012/13) we had 12,000 members and averaged just under 13,500!!!
The members have now dropped to 10,000 and overall we averaged just under 9,000....how many for next season???
As for "core functions", really the club is no where near being run like a professional organisation. The benchmark is Victory and we are so far behind them in every facet, we are more closely run to a State NPL club!!!

[goaliepersempre]

dont knock the latvians... :P but yeah everytime i here from any a league coach oh where going on a scouting mission to europe.. I am always a little umming and arring as to where they would be headed.. What leagues what level...

I could help :P

[MFKS]

Yep, this mob under Tinkler are turning people off the A League.
Consider two seasons ago (season 2012/13) we had 12,000 members and averaged just under 13,500!!!
The members have now dropped to 10,000 and overall we averaged just under 9,000....how many for next season???
As for "core functions", really the club is no where near being run like a professional organisation. The benchmark is Victory and we are so far behind them in every facet, we are more closely run to a State NPL club!!!

That's rather not quite true State NPL clubs form the most part are ACTUALLY better run than us

[lquiquer]

dont knock the latvians... :P but yeah everytime i here from any a league coach oh where going on a scouting mission to europe.. I am always a little umming and arring as to where they would be headed.. What leagues what level...

I could help :P

Yorkshire family reunion I'd say. And been told and believe me on that one no Italy in the itinerary. Any good players free agent in Vaduz?

[stopper2]

That's rather not quite true State NPL clubs form the most part are ACTUALLY better run than us

Probably right Member!

I know the Con era was far from perfect but lets face it we had pretty much had "wogs" running the show, a passionate owner who knew and loved the game and also very knowledgeable, experienced Football people like Remo, George Liolio and John Tastimitis. We made the semis 4 out of 6 seasons, won a GF and were able to attract quality players to the club.
Sure they made mistakes but there seemed to be a real Football culture at the club, that has gradually eroded since Tinkler/HSG took over and especially when they started to push that "Team Newcastle" bullshit with the Knights. Middleby and Baartz just didn't have strong enough personalities to stand up for what was right and best for the Newcastle Jets FC.

[tomo]

Probably right Member!

I know the Con era was far from perfect but lets face it we had pretty much had "wogs" running the show, a passionate owner who knew and loved the game and also very knowledgeable, experienced Football people like Remo, George Liolio and John Tastimitis. We made the semis 4 out of 6 seasons, won a GF and were able to attract quality players to the club.
Sure they made mistakes but there seemed to be a real Football culture at the club, that has gradually eroded since Tinkler/HSG took over and especially when they started to push that "Team Newcastle" bullshit with the Knights. Middleby and Baartz just didn't have strong enough personalities to stand up for what was right and best for the Newcastle Jets FC.

Here here...

[lquiquer]

I'm a proud wog.......Wogs > than Brits...:popcorn:

[goaliepersempre]

Yorkshire family reunion I'd say. And been told and believe me on that one no Italy in the itinerary. Any good players free agent in Vaduz?

well looks like vaduz is going to stay up and we will be relegated.. so a few players there that might be worth a look...

quality is there but the team mix is just not here with us this year... some real ****s in the team

[joel31]

quality is there but the team mix is just not here with us this year... some real ****s in the team
They'll fit in here then

[MFKS]

JETS chief executive Mitchell Murphy has guaranteed the A-League club will help fund the Emerging Jets program.

How much money the Jets contribute will be determined at a meeting with Northern NSW Football chief executive David Eland this month.

The Jets, Football Federation Australia and NNSWF signed a three-year memorandum of understanding in November 2012 to fund the ground-breaking development program, which expanded to 14 squads this year.

The Herald understands the Jets were to kick in $120,000 a year. But the club stopped meeting its financial obligations midway through 2014.

Jets owner Nathan Tinkler settled the debt for 2014 in February this year, which coincided with Murphy's appointment.

When the debt was revealed, the Jets indicated they would not be able to continue funding the program in 2015, the final year of the arrangement.

"We have full intentions - no ifs, buts or maybes - to continue to make financial contributions to the Emerging Jets," Murphy said on Tuesday.

"We intend to contribute in a big way. The Emerging Jets are at the start of the season, not at the end. I'm in contact with David Eland about that and we have a meeting scheduled this month to advance those talks.

"We hosted the Emerging Jets players and coaching staff for a game against Adelaide at home, which included a keynote address from [former Socceroo] Craig Moore.





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"That clearly demonstrates that we are fully committed to the program."

The Emerging Jets program runs from late January to mid-December.

With the Jets no longer contributing financially, NNSWF was forced to adjust the elite program's budget. The federation absorbed some of the costs and parents of participants were slugged with an increase of up to $500 in fees on last year, taking their contribution to as much as $1350.

"NNSWF has dramatically increased the amount of funding, and parents have as well," Eland said. "The Emerging Jets was set up as a tri-party agreement and we would wholeheartedly welcome the Jets back to support the program. We want them on board."

The Jets were the first A-League club involved in an extensive development program, which starts at under 10s and provides a pathway to the top.

The FFA launched its Whole of Football Plan on Tuesday.

Included in the blueprint for the next 20 years was the formation of accredited academies at all A-League clubs and National Premier League clubs for players aged 12 to 19.

"NPL clubs will have a bigger role to play," Eland said.

"FFA are looking to NPL clubs to provide a better environment for young players.

"We accept it is not all about the Emerging Jets. We need more elite players spread throughout clubs as well.

"That's where coaching accreditation comes in.

"By making the courses cheaper and more accessible, I'm sure more coaches will complete the accreditation."


Jets promising the earth again :deadhorse:

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Jets promising the earth again :deadhorse:

The way i read that article is that the Jets wont be funding the program, but 'contributing to funding'...if that is the case it could be quite a token gesture on behalf of the Jets. .

[MFKS]

The way i read that article is that the Jets wont be funding the program, but 'contributing to funding'...if that is the case it could be quite a token gesture on behalf of the Jets. .

My issue is they promised one thing and are now reneging on it. 120k is ****ing peanuts when you consider the money Tinkler and Muppet have wasted in the last 6 months and will cost themselves next season..

No excuse for treating the local region with contempt and neglecting paying their share

[MFKS]

Apparently WSW were that happy with Popovic getting his team to just scrape above the Jets this season they gave him a new 3 year deal.


On that basis of rewarding failure and mediocrity Muppet to get 2 years before the weeks out

[stopper2]

Apparently WSW were that happy with Popovic getting his team to just scrape above the Jets this season they gave him a new 3 year deal.


On that basis of rewarding failure and mediocrity Muppet to get 2 years before the weeks out


Surprised that it is a 3 year deal but not surprised that they did renew his contract, probably going by the logic of "well he did have 2 great seasons and one bad one" so there probably is a bit of loyalty to Poppa from the club, as happened here with GVE when he also had 2 great seasons and a very poor one in his first term.
They may feel obliged to give him the benefit of the doubt but at the Jets we owe a rookie coach nothing.
First season at the club and he fails miserably, with the worst season ever in the club's history.
Yet the owner feels he is obliged, for whatever reason to give him another chance....there is just no logical explanation for it!!!

[Tommyjet]

Expect wsw to be in for a big marquee. Talk of valdivia the Chilean no 10 that was very impressive at the last World Cup a possibility

[hawk]

The way i read that article is that the Jets wont be funding the program, but 'contributing to funding'...if that is the case it could be quite a token gesture on behalf of the Jets. .

only because Jets management couldn't give a shlt about football

[Pico]

The government has already declined an approach from two A-League clubs for Canberra to host a regular game next season, negotiations breaking down on a price believed to be $80,000.

The Central Coast Mariners and the Newcastle Jets had been talking to the ACT government about bringing a game to Canberra Stadium next season but the parties couldn't agree on financial compensation, with concerns about low crowds.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/act-sport/act-government-wants-payoff-to-host-socceroos-in-world-cup-qualifiers-20150508-ggw2dj.html


Tinks solving the problem of disgruntled Members and fans... play the games elsewhere!

Love how this club is all about its members and local community, can't wait to see Murphy's reasoning for taking games out of Newcastle I assume it has been discussed with the members sub-committee you know considering it is directly membership related, or is a reduction and relocation of games off the table for discussion as well.

**** this club.

[BodyNovo]

if we are going to move games to any area it should be in our catchment area (northern NSW) and IMO we should only be doing it in the Pre-Season.

moving home games is a disgrace in a professional league.

[pv4]

To be fair, if they relocate a home game it'll be one less game we have to put ourselves through next season.

[Couscous]

Canberra is a natural constituency for the Jets, because our streets are paved with gold. Bring a couple of games down here.

[stopper2]

if we are going to move games to any area it should be in our catchment area (northern NSW) and IMO we should only be doing it in the Pre-Season.

moving home games is a disgrace in a professional league.

I am completely flabbergasted about what gain there is for the Jets to play a game 5 hours away in Canberra???

What is the reasoning behind this idea? Can understand the reasoning behind Port Macquarie or Coffs Harbour and even then as Bodynovo suggested it should only be a Pre-season game.....which happens anyway.

Can only think that the brains at FFA have put this idea to the Jets and Mariners with maybe some financial compensation attached but the ACT government couldn't come up with enough dollars to cover the rest that the Jets/Mariners were willing to sell a home game for!!!

Am I pissed off.....YES, but am I surprised.....NO!!!

[plague]

In the biz they call it 'growing the brand'.

Chelsea/United/City all playing games over here yet you don't hear fans bleating about that.

Tinks and the #str8shoota are the only 2 with any vision for the club.

Mark my words in 10 years the Jets will be playing at Old Trafford and the joint will be packed.

[The Dunster]

Could the FFA cull the Mariners and Jets and replace them with Canberra franchise ?

Afterall, Uncle Frank hates our club and members.

[Grimario]

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/newcastle-jets-appoint-new-general-manager-of-football-operations/ec9y8wulfvrw1odwb46cvwoys


Newcastle Jets have made a significant off field signing with experienced football administrator Ben Mannion agreeing to join the club as its new General Manager of Football Operations.

[plague]

Legit I swear I saw Gallop driving towards the freeway from Newy about 7am today.

Anyone know if he was up here

He had a nice car.

[Premy]

Legit I swear I saw Gallop driving towards the freeway from Newy about 7am today.

Anyone know if he was up here

He had a nice car.
Probably something to do with this.
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/ffa-finding-on-nathan-tinkler/19zbb3hto8q1e1bq9bbi4mu2ar#IrgirWgPf2egHKMV.99

[borat]

Probably something to do with this.
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/ffa-finding-on-nathan-tinkler/19zbb3hto8q1e1bq9bbi4mu2ar#IrgirWgPf2egHKMV.99

What a slap on the wrist. Guess its building a case for multiple show cause notices for later action

[MFKS]

What a slap on the wrist. Guess its building a case for multiple show cause notices for later action

Multiple cases?? Later action??

Slap on the wrist and an official reprimand ain't getting you anywhere fast.

If the FFA were serious at getting him out you would give him a sentence with some grunt behind it.

Escalate the shit so he may do something else stupid

[borat]

Multiple cases?? Later action??

Slap on the wrist and an official reprimand ain't getting you anywhere fast.

If the FFA were serious at getting him out you would give him a sentence with some grunt behind it.

Escalate the shit so he may do something else stupid

So you are saying that the FFA they aren't serious about getting rid of him and Tinks is here to stay?

[MFKS]

So you are saying that the FFA they aren't serious about getting rid of him and Tinks is here to stay?

Serious???

They have shown no desire to do a ****ing thing to him in spite of any failing he has ever had and there are plenty for breach of licence.

So the answer would be a big no

[lquiquer]

They don't seem to concerned anymore about Supa still not paid ??!!!!

[Grimario]

All about the W-League train...

Em Van Eg won W League player of the year and McGuinness won manager of the year.

[GazFish35]

If they're going to do anything, it wouldn't be in the week before the GrandFinal.

[Jeterpool]

If they're going to do anything, it wouldn't be in the week before the GrandFinal.

Exactly. It'll kick off after, if it's going to.

[lquiquer]

Exactly. It'll kick off after, if it's going to.

My money is on: Nothing bfore Nothing after........We stuck we Muppets and Manamana

[stopper2]

My money is on: Nothing bfore Nothing after........We stuck we Muppets and Manamana

Likewise I'm leaning more towards the FFA doing nothing but after hearing that Middleby and Baartz recently had a meeting with Gallop I still think there is a chance that FFA have a "back-up" plan in the works.
Don't worry Middleby and Baartz won't be involved in any future plans.

[the blue manc]

Some bloke called Nathan Burns won the Johnny Warren medal. So glad the jets didn't keep him.

[hawk]

Tinks solving the problem of disgruntled Members and fans... play the games elsewhere!

Love how this club is all about its members and local community, can't wait to see Murphy's reasoning for taking games out of Newcastle I assume it has been discussed with the members sub-committee you know considering it is directly membership related, or is a reduction and relocation of games off the table for discussion as well.

**** this club.

this going the way of gold coast. a retarded rich fat fk making abhorrent decisions for the club.

[lquiquer]

Some bloke called Nathan Burns won the Johnny Warren medal. So glad the jets didn't keep him.

He was never going to walk again, that's how bad the leg was according to Jerks Specialist!!!!

[Jeterpool]

He was never going to walk again, that's how bad the leg was according to Jerks Specialist!!!!

Same bloke said Jason Culina would be ok?

[Thomas477]

He was never going to walk again, that's how bad the leg was according to Jerks Specialist!!!!

Same guy that gave Culina the all clear.

[Jetmaster]

Could the FFA cull the Mariners and Jets and replace them with Canberra franchise ?

Afterall, Uncle Frank hates our club and members.

Could - but won't, not both.

When we talk regions FFA knows Newcastle is far and away the most conducive to having a successful franchise.

Canberra, and Wollongong for that matter have been tried several times before to minimal success. If FFA can't get Newy to succeed they have little hope in other regional areas.

[MFKS]

Tweets hitting Twittersphere of issues at Roar and FFA may be stepping in.

Question has to be asked if this eventuates then why the **** we are not deemed worthy enough??

What the **** do we need to deserve similar treatment??

[Jeterpool]

Tweets hitting Twittersphere of issues at Roar and FFA may be stepping in.

Question has to be asked if this eventuates then why the **** we are not deemed worthy enough??

What the **** do we need to deserve similar treatment??


A few more titles.

[MFKS]

A few more titles.

1 Championship
2Wooden Spoons

Will be 3 if Muppet sees next season out

[Nou Camp]

Not sure if this has been discussed previously
was anyone else aware the jets were locked out of ray watt oval about 2 weeks ago due to unpaid usage of the ground and have only been training at a gym (planet fitness) since then?
some players still have boots and gear locked in the sheds
they officially break this Friday until about the 25th of June

[Jeterpool]

Not sure if this has been discussed previously
was anyone else aware the jets were locked out of ray watt oval about 2 weeks ago due to unpaid usage of the ground and have only been training at a gym (planet fitness) since then?
some players still have boots and gear locked in the sheds
they officially break this Friday until about the 25th of June

Here's the Newcastle Herald's story for tomorrow.

[pv4]

Here's the Newcastle Herald's story for tomorrow.

While they're at it..

I heard the Jerks are chasing Didier Drogba.

[GazFish35]

but, but, but, Phil has a "vision", Tinks is "committed" and Herald just need to SHUT THE **** UP about these kinds of things and let the club "move forward"

[Pico]

It’s a shame really, nearly 3 weeks of potential critical stubbins free training time wasted.

I'm a bit surprised that the herald hasn't even asked the question regarding the jets looking to move games out of the hunter / NNSW, poor form herald hacks.

[A.J.]

Not sure if this has been discussed previously
was anyone else aware the jets were locked out of ray watt oval about 2 weeks ago due to unpaid usage of the ground and have only been training at a gym (planet fitness) since then?
some players still have boots and gear locked in the sheds
they officially break this Friday until about the 25th of June

I saw them training at Smith Park near Hamilton North Bowlo yesterday while walking my dog. There were only about a dozen of them, and I was about 100m away and couldn't recognise anyone from that distance though so it may have only been the youth team.
Dog did turn to stare at them while shitting though, so I guess his thoughts on the club are the same as everyone else

[lquiquer]

Wasn't Ray Watt flooded after the storm?

[Jeterpool]

I saw them training at Smith Park near Hamilton North Bowlo yesterday while walking my dog. There were only about a dozen of them, and I was about 100m away and couldn't recognise anyone from that distance though so it may have only been the youth team.
Dog did turn to stare at them while shitting though, so I guess his thoughts on the club are the same as everyone else

Sounds like the first team squad.

[Jetmaster]

Wasn't Ray Watt flooded after the storm?

Damaged and closed at least - Jets couldn't train there before the Brisbane game.

[GazFish35]

Sounds like the first team squad.

only if there was a red-headed bloke over in the corner doing his own thing.

[MFKS]

I heard first week after Roar game they did not train as the club were looking to save fees at Ray Watt

No idea if it was due to unpaid fees but was more to save money

I did mention that somewhere

[Thomas477]

I heard first week after Roar game they did not train as the club were looking to save fees at Ray Watt

No idea if it was due to unpaid fees but was more to save money

I did mention that somewhere

+1 I remember you saying that, sorta explains what happened.

[A.J.]

Sounds like the first team squad.

I can confirm there was definitely no Montano or Lee Ki Je....

[Nou Camp]

I know in the lead up to it all uni wasn't rolling, mowing and taking care of the ground properly due to unpaid fees

[belchardo]

http://www.abc.net.au/local/photos/2015/05/11/4233358.htm?WT.ac=infocus_canberra

donate your old football gear.

still burn your jets gear though, don't want to make things worse for them.

[q-money]

don't we have to give our boots to the jerks seeing as theirs are locked up at ray watt?

[tomo]

While they're at it..

I heard the Jerks are chasing Didier Drogba.

Pretty sure a 1 year extension at Chelsea and working under Mourinho is alot more attractive than coming to this sh*t storm and working under Stumbles

[plague]

While they're at it..

I heard the Jerks are chasing Didier Drogba.

I heard it was didier deschamps.

[la bazzle]

I saw them training at Smith Park near Hamilton North Bowlo yesterday while walking my dog. There were only about a dozen of them, and I was about 100m away and couldn't recognise anyone from that distance though so it may have only been the youth team.
Dog did turn to stare at them while shitting though, so I guess his thoughts on the club are the same as everyone else

Field of Dreams. Good choice

[tomo]

Iain Ramsay released from City... Wouldnt mind seeing him in a Jets shirt

[BodyNovo]

Iain Ramsay released from City... Wouldnt mind seeing him in a Jets shirt

Would much prefer mate dugandzic

[Jeterpool]

Iain Ramsay released from City... Wouldnt mind seeing him in a Jets shirt

I would. I can't stand him

[joel31]

Dugandzic would be a good pickup

[MFKS]

Apparently Cardiff City owner Vincent Tan just bought another club a Belgian outfit his fourth.

Wonder if he could do with another.


Bloke is as batshit crazy and would be a step up from the current regime

[Retro Jet]

iain ramsay released from city... Wouldnt mind seeing him in a jets shirt


i would. I can't stand him

+1 for RJ

[Premy]

Apparently Cardiff City owner Vincent Tan just bought another club a Belgian outfit his fourth.

Wonder if he could do with another.


Bloke is as batshit crazy and would be a step up from the current regimeWhat is the 4th Club?
I know his involved with LAFC in the MLS

[MFKS]

What is the 4th Club?
I know his involved with LAFC in the MLS


FK Sarajevo[edit]

In December 2013 Tan bought Bosnian club FK Sarajevo.[29] Under the deal, Cardiff will cooperate with FK Sarajevo, exchanging players and taking part in a football academy, yet to be established, which Tan has said will lure new talents. FK Sarajevo have since brought in players such as Miloš Stojčev, Džemal Berberović and Nemanja Bilbija, who helped the club win the 2013–14 Bosnian Cup, their first title since winning the domestic Premier League in 2006–07. Prior to the Cup triumph, Robert Jarni was brought in as manager of the club in December 2013 by Tan, but was dismissed after only four months (on 7 April 2014, while the team were still in the semi-finals of the Bosnian Cup) because the club had failed to keep their chances of winning the premier league title alive during the later stages of the 2013-14 season.[citation needed] In July 2014 FK Sarajevo played a friendly match against Tan's Cardiff City FC U21, winning 4–1.[30] FK Sarajevo qualified for the Play-off round of the 2014–15 UEFA Europa League, where they lost to German Bundesliga side Borussia Mönchengladbach.

In May 2014, the heaviest rains and floods in 120 years hit Bosnia and the surrounding region. The worst affected areas were the towns of Doboj and Maglaj, which were cut off from the rest of the country when all major roads flooded. Damage from landslides and floods was estimated to run into hundreds of millions of euros and twenty-four people were killed. The cost of the disaster, officials said, could exceed that of the Bosnian War. In June 2014, Tan made a personal donation of €114,000, while the people of Malaysia raised a total of €169,000 toward Bosnia's flood relief fund.[31]

On 17 July 2014, during the halftime break of the Europa League qualifying match between FK Sarajevo and Norwegian club FK Haugesund at the Olympic Stadium in Sarajevo, Tan presented pledges of assistance of €255,000 each to two hospitals in Doboj and Maglaj, to be used for medical equipment. He said in a pre-match interview, "Because of my involvement with Sarajevo Football Club, when I heard about the floods, I urged the Sun newspaper to run a campaign to raise donations to help Bosnia."[32]
From Wikipedia

[stopper2]

Iain Ramsay released from City... Wouldnt mind seeing him in a Jets shirt

Probably a good chance as he is also an ex-Adelaide player, seems to be one of the pre-requisites to work under Muppet.

Ramsay has that potential there to be a good player under a "good" coach so would be wasting his time here, he is one of those players who has now been around for a while, does some good things but for me just doesn't have the end product yet for a player in his position i.e more goals, assists.

[Frodo]

Probably a good chance as he is also an ex-Adelaide player, seems to be one of the pre-requisites to work under Muppet.

Ramsay has that potential there to be a good player under a "good" coach so would be wasting his time here, he is one of those players who has now been around for a while, does some good things but for me just doesn't have the end product yet for a player in his position i.e more goals, assists.

He is deadset Hoole 2.0 (i.e: quick but rubbish), but he will probably sign for us, score 1 or 2 and be given our player of the year award because he never stopped trying to beat people one on one... Excitement is worth more than end product remember!

[The Camel]

Apparently Cardiff City owner Vincent Tan just bought another club a Belgian outfit his fourth.

Wonder if he could do with another.


Bloke is as batshit crazy and would be a step up from the current regime

I've just moved back after 4 yrs living in Cardiff and was a season ticket holder. No way is Vincent Tan a step up. Bloke is hated as much as Mike Ashley. Cardiff have gone from 22000 to 4500 season ticket holders in 2 yrs.

We'd be the Newcastle Dragons playing in an all red strip in no time. Plus Cardiff fans view of the Manager Slade is equivalent to ours of Stubbins yet he's Tans man and not going anywhere.

[Wilso8948]

I've just moved back after 4 yrs living in Cardiff and was a season ticket holder. No way is Vincent Tan a step up. Bloke is hated as much as Mike Ashley. Cardiff have gone from 22000 to 4500 season ticket holders in 2 yrs.

We'd be the Newcastle Dragons playing in an all red strip in no time. Plus Cardiff fans view of the Manager Slade is equivalent to ours of Stubbins yet he's Tans man and not going anywhere.

You've pretty much just described the Jets to a tee

[MFKS]

Probably a good chance as he is also an ex-Adelaide player, seems to be one of the pre-requisites to work under Muppet.

Ramsay has that potential there to be a good player under a "good" coach so would be wasting his time here, he is one of those players who has now been around for a while, does some good things but for me just doesn't have the end product yet for a player in his position i.e more goals, assists.

No way in the world

There are blokes in the HAL like Berisha who are complete wankers but can play so you at least respect them even if you don't like them

Then you have blokes like Ramsay who are just complete wankers and no one respects

[pv4]

He is deadset Hoole 2.0 (i.e: quick but rubbish), but he will probably sign for us, score 1 or 2 and be given our player of the year award because he never stopped trying to beat people one on one... Excitement is worth more than end product remember!

I will politely yet firmly disagree with your assessment of Hoole. He is amazing.

[MFKS]

https://au.beamly.com/tv-news/2015/05/13/we-rank-the-best-a-league-supporter-groups-from-worst-to-best-after-the-201415-season/
Jets Fans ranked last as well

:rof:

[Blackmac79]

https://au.beamly.com/tv-news/2015/05/13/we-rank-the-best-a-league-supporter-groups-from-worst-to-best-after-the-201415-season/
Jets Fans ranked last as well

:rof:

Yeh we suck.

[Thomas477]

I'd take Russell Slade in a heartbeat. He almost got Leyton Orient promoted to the Championship last season. Managed that without spending a single dollar on transfer fees.

[belchardo]

https://au.beamly.com/tv-news/2015/05/13/we-rank-the-best-a-league-supporter-groups-from-worst-to-best-after-the-201415-season/
Jets Fans ranked last as well

:rof:

can't believe the squadron moved for the wankerers. FOR SHAME!

also, to win next year we need to: start fights, rip flares, throw chairs. everybody got that? everyone needs to lift their game.

[MFKS]

Yeh we suck.

It is really embarrassing that our HAL peers rate us behind inbred gypsy scum with a brass band giant sauce bottles and a pitchside cannon

Hasn't been a great year but FFS come on:angry:

[lquiquer]

It is really embarrassing that our HAL peers rate us behind inbred gypsy scum with a brass band giant sauce bottles and a pitchside cannon

Hasn't been a great year but FFS come on:angry:

That's how retards our HAL peers are... Squadron moved to accomodate for WSW!!! Yeah right .... Dickheads... Another FB mob: ultra mentality Australia rated supporters group and didn't even bother rating scums (muppet show band)!!... So who cares, more important is to get back to our priority which is to get rid of our Muppet then when successful again it will all fall into the right place again....

[plague]

It is really embarrassing that our HAL peers rate us behind inbred gypsy scum with a brass band giant sauce bottles and a pitchside cannon

Hasn't been a great year but FFS come on:angry:

nah, whats more embarrassing is the way some on here are cranky they lost a popularity contest.
go grow a beard, roll your jeans up and sip on a craft beer you'll fit right in with the cool kids.



sticks and stones lads.

[pv4]

https://au.beamly.com/tv-news/2015/05/13/we-rank-the-best-a-league-supporter-groups-from-worst-to-best-after-the-201415-season/
Jets Fans ranked last as well

:rof:

:rof: it ranked The Cove above the RBB, and also it didn't reference the Southern Terrace at all :rof:

[MFKS]

nah, whats more embarrassing is the way some on here are cranky they lost a popularity contest.
go grow a beard, roll your jeans up and sip on a craft beer you'll fit right in with the cool kids.



sticks and stones lads.

Its not about winning a popularity contest

Issue I have is we are ranked below gypsy ****s whose bright ideas are a cannon, giant sauce bottles and a ****ing brass band

Not to mention they get no **** there every week.

It is actually demeaning that our fans are being rated as worse fans that this ****ing lot.

I will take 9th happily but to be 10th and have those ****s ahead of us ain't happening.

[boz-monaut]

sucks to lose such an important circle jerk

time to disband the squadron

[Jeterpool]

Its not about winning a popularity contest

Issue I have is we are ranked below gypsy ****s whose bright ideas are a cannon, giant sauce bottles and a ****ing brass band

Not to mention they get no **** there every week.

It is actually demeaning that our fans are being rated as worse fans that this ****ing lot.

I will take 9th happily but to be 10th and have those ****s ahead of us ain't happening.

It's an opinion piece. I'll write one where we are ahead.

[GazFish35]

use old stuff too.

ffs who gets worked up about this?

[pv4]

I also question whether the writer of the article knows that the RBB have La Banda, which has drums, brass instruments, and everything else in it. Because he said the brass instruments in the Yellow Army were unique to CCM.

[belchardo]

use old stuff too.

ffs who gets worked up about this?

MFKS, but he gets worked up about everything.

[Jeterpool]

MFKS, but he gets worked up about everything.

So is he then worked up?

Something to ponder for a friday

[Captain Obvious]

MFKS, but he gets worked up about everything.

Hello Belchardo.

[Premy]

Covic has parted ways with WSW, along with a few more. Would be handy to have Covic back.

Juric is also one of the few to be told they won't have a new contract.

[Thomas477]

Get Covic now farken.

**** any other scouting, get Covic ASAP!!!!!

Ruka would be good too

[BodyNovo]

I would take ruka in a heartbeat

[Tommyjet]

Ruka please. Don't care if Aus marquee. The Serb could be the one to get the best out of ruka

[Grimario]

****s sake. Watch us get Kalmar and pv4 go all :wanker: but with a happy smile on his face.

Suppose if he has one good game a season then it will be more than some of the shit we have had in the last few seasons.

[plague]

Ruka please. Don't care if Aus marquee. The Serb could be the one to get the best out of ruka

awesome, with both him and Ibini we would have 2 blokes that run straight kick hard.

FFS just sign Hoffman back and save the moolah.

Ruka OUT

[Mark325]

get keen boys, Nicky Ward is coming back

[GazFish35]

Engines?

[furns]

There is no way covic will be coming back to Newy lads

[Jetmaster]

There is no way covic will be coming back to Newy lads

Indeed.

[borat]

Ray Gatt saying Tavres to WSW but not Vukovic

[tomo]

Ruka, bulut and juric would be nice, juric/ruka as aus mq. And ibini aswell

[lquiquer]

So they got our rejects 3 years ago made 2 GF and won an ACL. So if we take their rejects now then glory is around the corner ?... Problem is we stuck with our muppet !!!!

[lquiquer]

@robertdillon174: Tomorrow I'll report in @newcastleherald that @NewcastleJetsFC players have not been paid - and that is not the club's only financial drama.

[Tommyjet]

@robertdillon174: Tomorrow I'll report in @newcastleherald that @NewcastleJetsFC players have not been paid - and that is not the club's only financial drama.

At last, some more drama

[Thomas477]

At last, some more drama

Was getting too quiet with the grand final around the corner.

[tomo]

Its on the herald website... FFA doesnt seem to care, yet again

[hawk]

the usual financial embarrassment. well done

[MFKS]

PROFESSIONAL Footballers Australia has condemned Jets management after the club’s players and staff were not paid on Friday – the third time in the past four months wages have not been deposited on the due date.

In a further sign of the club’s precarious financial predicament, the Newcastle Herald can reveal the Jets have effectively been locked out of their training base at Newcastle University over unpaid hiring fees.

Jets employees are meant to be paid on the 15th of every month, but after inquiries from the Herald on Friday, the club issued a statement saying salaries would be ‘‘processed’’ on Monday, three days overdue.

“The club is working to address its cash-flow challenges, and the owner [Nathan Tinkler] has given a commitment that salaries will be processed to players and staff on Monday,’’ CEO Mitchell Murphy was quoted as saying. ‘‘The club has proactively advised the FFA, the PFA, and its staff in regards to the delay.”

But the PFA’s head of player relations, Simon Colosimo, denied there had been any such communication from Jets management, saying: ‘‘The club has not been forthcoming and we have left numerous messages with the club and they’re not responding to any calls or messages.’’

Colosimo said it was ‘‘ridiculous’’ that professional footballers had been left vainly checking their bank accounts for wages that remained unpaid.

‘‘The players have done everything that has been asked of them, and for the club to continually delay a fundamental right, which is to be paid for the work you have done, is a joke,’’ Colosimo said.

Players and staff were paid 48 hours late in February and March, after revelations that the Tax Office has taken out a garnishee order against Tinkler, enabling it to seize the $250,000 monthly grant the Jets are supposed to receive from FFA.

Asked for comment on Friday night, a Football Federation Australia spokesperson replied with a one-sentence statement: ‘‘FFA has been advised by the Newcastle Jets that the monthly payroll will be processed on Monday.’’

Meanwhile, the Herald has been told Jets players are keeping fit in a new gym after the club’s access to The Forum and Ray Watt Oval, both run by Newcastle University Sport, was declined.

It is understood the Jets owe $40,000 in hiring fees, dating back three months.

Sources have told the Herald that NUSport is tired of regularly chasing the Jets for hiring arrears and is considering ending its relationship with the club altogether.

Other amateur-level sporting clubs would then be invited to hire Ray Watt Oval.

NUSport chief executive Chris Hicks declined to comment when contacted by the Herald.

The Jets have until late June to resolve the impasse, when they are expected to kick off pre-season training, or find an alternative training base in the meantime.

In a statement, Murphy said: “Our lease agreement with NUsport expires this month. Over the past few weeks we have been in regular dialogue with them about renewing our long-standing partnership.

‘‘Our current financial liability to NUsport will be settled in the coming weeks. In the interim the club has secured alternate training venues.”


Trol lol lol

[MFKS]

Being the GF is on tomorrow and Tinkler has quite a history of stealing the limelight by having bad news come out of the club at a time when the focus should be on something else question really has to be asked
IS HE STILL ****ING US OVER??

You could make quite a case that he is still on his burn to the ground strategy that he was on in the last 12 months. In the last few months though he has just stepped back and is doing it a bit slower and subtlety than what he was doing when he sacked 5 players and 3 coaches.

We constantly get bad news stories from the club not paying wages not paying super treatment of Zenon treatment of Taylor Regan continual backing of Muppet etc

All the positives we get are promises that so far he has delivered **** all on

MAYBE HE IS STILL PLAYING US ALL

The best way to do anything will always be to do in such a way that your goal can be achieved with out anyone knowing whilst you can sit back laughing your arse off at the people who are oblivious to what is really going on. Maybe that is his game

[MFKS]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/05/15/day-holland-almost-cost-jets-championship
Nearly cost us nothing.

Behind Griffo's winning goal Hutcho Crying that was my 3rd fave moment of the day

[The Dunster]

I don't think the Jets will get the spoon next season because I seriously doubt they will even have a team in the A-league.

RIP Jets.

[tomo]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/05/15/day-holland-almost-cost-jets-championship
Nearly cost us nothing.

Behind Griffo's winning goal Hutcho Crying that was my 3rd fave moment of the day

U must've been watching the wrong GF if u think griffo scored the goal

[joel31]

I must've been watching the wrong GF because I thought griffo didn't score the goal
Corrected

[Tommyjet]

U must've been watching the wrong GF if u think griffo scored the goal

Please mate, don't get them started.

[lquiquer]

From memory it was a great pass from Bridge....Great goal Griff.....i will never forget

[Jeterpool]

Show the photo of griff scoring

[Jeterpool]

Please mate, don't get them started.

He's new and needs calibrating.

[tomo]

He's new and needs calibrating.

I may be new, but ive been watching these convos for about 12 months, and i was after a bite, but it didnt eventuate

[slobsy]

From memory it was a great pass from Bridge....Great goal Griff.....i will never forget

You're wrong, Bridge was not involved in any of the lead up play.

I don't even think he played tbh.

[Boss]

Can someone tell me who the **** bridge is? How long is he contracted for?

[MFKS]

I may be new, but ive been watching these convos for about 12 months, and i was after a bite, but it didnt eventuate

Been watching for 12 months and try some kindergarten level troll


How you have underestimated the foz

[Thomas477]

Been watching for 12 months and try some kindergarten level troll


How you have underestimated the foz

:thumbsup:

[tomo]

Been watching for 12 months and try some kindergarten level troll


How you have underestimated the foz

If thats what u believe...

[seldom]

From memory it was a great pass from Bridge....Great goal Griff.....i will never forget

This

[Pico]

A-League salary cap could be raised, according to the FFA


The A-League salary cap is set to be bolstered for next season to help clubs hang on to their best talent.

A progression in talks for a new pay deal between Football Federation Australia (FFA) and the players union, Professional Footballers Australia (PFA), means A-League clubs can expect relaxed restrictions around player payments as soon as next season.

A FFA spokesperson said they have tabled "long-term loyalty payment" concessions in salary cap reforms, with hopes that a deal will be signed soon.

"We are continuing to work with the players and the PFA in consultation with the A-League clubs to finalise an appropriate CBA in the coming weeks," he said.

"A concession for long serving players is a part of the discussions including the fact that such a concession is a lift in the overall cap and must be considered in that context."

After a season marred by Perth Glory's egregious breach, a rise in the cap will be welcomed by players and clubs looking to push for honours.

PFA chief executive Adam Vivian says clubs who successfully develop or retain talent should receive salary cap concessions to keep them.

The changes could benefit long-serving Melbourne Victory man Archie Thompson, who on Tuesday said he could leave the club after 10 seasons unless a suitable new deal was tabled.

Vivian said cap concessions to clubs that bring new talent through youth systems, for example Terry Antonis at Sydney FC, would enhance the league.

"Clubs have invested money in developing players, we want them to have the opportunity to retain them and not lose their talent based purely on fiscal means," he said.

The PFA also believes clubs that utilise their scouting networks to unearth talents could also benefit from proposed new "flexibilities".

"If you're Melbourne Victory trying to retain Ben Khalfallah, you should have the opportunity to utilise those flexibilities," Vivian said.

"We want the league to grow, particularly in light of a new broadcast deal (and) for that to occur, there needs to be meaningful investment into players."

But Vivian says he still hopes for a "meaningful increase" to the cap next year and a reversion of previous rules that kept loan fees for overseas-based players outside of the cap this season.

"Sadly we've had a breach of the cap this season and I think this shows it's putting pressure on clubs, it's certainly putting pressure on players and we need to find a way to relieve that," he said.

"There has to be a cleansing of the cap ... to get some of the things that fall into the cap taken out of it.

"Loan fees go into the cap at the moment and we believe they should not be."

Vivian said it was in everyone's interests to ink the deal as soon as possible after Sunday's grand final.

"Then when clubs are talking to their players and retaining them, they can forecast what their finances would be," he said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-13/a-league-salary-cap-set-to-be-raised/6467832


So Loyalty payments, a rise in the total cap, flexibilities which is not explained at all and could be anything & loan fees excluded from the cap.

All look like reasonable ways at allowing clubs to keep players, won't ever help the jets, like we keep players around long enough to be classed as long term loyalty.

[BodyNovo]

U must've been watching the wrong GF if u think griffo scored the goal

Yeh griff scored it mate

Mark bridge was at a convention for weak ankles

[Jeterpool]

So Loyalty payments, a rise in the total cap, flexibilities which is not explained at all and could be anything & loan fees excluded from the cap.

All look like reasonable ways at allowing clubs to keep players, won't ever help the jets, like we keep players around long enough to be classed as long term loyalty.

I see this as a step forward and a natural path for the league to take. It makes sense for clubs to be rewarded for bringing through their own talent. This should benefit the Emerging Jets and the local leagues if the club chooses to apply this benefit because exceptional local talent should be more likely pick up local young players instead of picking from Sydney.

However, this comes on the back of a successful season for the two major city clubs, while the smaller teams have had poor seasons. The skeptic in me sees this as a split starting to occur in the league between the big boys, the little boys and those who don't pay. It's going to be a harder road back, but hey....that's football.

[outsider]

I see this as a step forward and a natural path for the league to take. It makes sense for clubs to be rewarded for bringing through their own talent. This should benefit the Emerging Jets and the local leagues if the club chooses to apply this benefit because exceptional local talent should be more likely pick up local young players instead of picking from Sydney.

However, this comes on the back of a successful season for the two major city clubs, while the smaller teams have had poor seasons. The skeptic in me sees this as a split starting to occur in the league between the big boys, the little boys and those who don't pay. It's going to be a harder road back, but hey....that's football.

just means that there will be more money owing longer

[MFKS]

I see this as a step forward and a natural path for the league to take. It makes sense for clubs to be rewarded for bringing through their own talent. This should benefit the Emerging Jets and the local leagues if the club chooses to apply this benefit because exceptional local talent should be more likely pick up local young players instead of picking from Sydney.

However, this comes on the back of a successful season for the two major city clubs, while the smaller teams have had poor seasons. The skeptic in me sees this as a split starting to occur in the league between the big boys, the little boys and those who don't pay. It's going to be a harder road back, but hey....that's football.

Totally disagree that this is beneficial to anyone other than Smurfs Victree and the bigger clubs.

We have a salary cap in place for a reason to keep the competition level. Giving concessions like this allow the bigger clubs to exploit the salary cap more.

Take the Gypos you brought these concessions in when they had a decent side Sainsbury Ibini Ryan etc they still have no money to be able to pay them this extra money anyway. Contrast that with Sydney Melburn clubs who if they put a good squad together then have the extra funds available to spend on players if need be to keep their success going.



Needs a complete overhaul the salary cap. First thing that needs to go is the Marquee spots as that is where Sydney Melburn clubs are able to get an unfair advantage over the other clubs and it only is because they live in major cities with population bases of 4 million

[Jeterpool]

Totally disagree that this is beneficial to anyone other than Smurfs Victree and the bigger clubs.

We have a salary cap in place for a reason to keep the competition level. Giving concessions like this allow the bigger clubs to exploit the salary cap more.

Take the Gypos you brought these concessions in when they had a decent side Sainsbury Ibini Ryan etc they still have no money to be able to pay them this extra money anyway. Contrast that with Sydney Melburn clubs who if they put a good squad together then have the extra funds available to spend on players if need be to keep their success going.



Needs a complete overhaul the salary cap. First thing that needs to go is the Marquee spots as that is where Sydney Melburn clubs are able to get an unfair advantage over the other clubs and it only is because they live in major cities with population bases of 4 million

I agree that this benefits the bigger clubs primarily, but this is where the FFA are making their money too. While we may not benefit from the rules because of a lack of money/finances perhaps it could be the incentive that makes the club look at investing in local talent further? Competitive sport can't always be fair, but for the development of the league something along these lines needed to be introduced.

You're right in the example you make about the Gypos. They wouldn't have been able to pay them and I think we'd be in the same boat too along with Wellington, Brisbane and perhaps even Adelaide. But do we hold the league back from attracting and retaining talent because not all the clubs can afford it?

I'll wait to see what the definitions for "developing own talent" and "long serving player" is.

[MFKS]

I agree that this benefits the bigger clubs primarily, but this is where the FFA are making their money too. While we may not benefit from the rules because of a lack of money/finances perhaps it could be the incentive that makes the club look at investing in local talent further? Competitive sport can't always be fair, but for the development of the league something along these lines needed to be introduced.

You're right in the example you make about the Gypos. They wouldn't have been able to pay them and I think we'd be in the same boat too along with Wellington, Brisbane and perhaps even Adelaide. But do we hold the league back from attracting and retaining talent because not all the clubs can afford it?

I'll wait to see what the definitions for "developing own talent" and "long serving player" is.

You are bang on about the developing local talent part. Any extra money that Sydney Melburn have over the other club should actually be going into developing their juniors in their region. Neither of them have contributed **** all in this regard in the last 10 years.

They just poach anyone promising from elsewhere eg Hoole Rojas Kruse etc and between them have contributed what Terry Antonis and Leigh ****ing Broxham would be the best examples of talent they have brought through into their first team.
Antonis can't get in their side and Broxham is well just plain well shit.

Our League should be a development league with an emphasis on developing Australian talent and sending them overseas to strengthen our Socceroos. Neither of these clubs have contributed much at all in this regard.

The advantage they get out of 4 million population base goes into strengthening their side for short term trophy pursuit. It should go into strengthening their club and the code in their region by junior development training ground acquisition, coaching for juniors, club promotion to make greater inroads for the code into NRL and AFL.

All we get is them pilfering any other clubs talent like Berisha Hoole Ibini etc to make themselves stronger to win a ****ing trophy.

Cart before the horse etc

[De-Champ]

You are bang on about the developing local talent part. Any extra money that Sydney Melburn have over the other club should actually be going into developing their juniors in their region. Neither of them have contributed **** all in this regard in the last 10 years.

They just poach anyone promising from elsewhere eg Hoole Rojas Kruse etc and between them have contributed what Terry Antonis and Leigh ****ing Broxham would be the best examples of talent they have brought through into their first team.
Antonis can't get in their side and Broxham is well just plain well shit.

Our League should be a development league with an emphasis on developing Australian talent and sending them overseas to strengthen our Socceroos. Neither of these clubs have contributed much at all in this regard.

The advantage they get out of 4 million population base goes into strengthening their side for short term trophy pursuit. It should go into strengthening their club and the code in their region by junior development training ground acquisition, coaching for juniors, club promotion to make greater inroads for the code into NRL and AFL.

All we get is them pilfering any other clubs talent like Berisha Hoole Ibini etc to make themselves stronger to win a ****ing trophy.

Cart before the horse etc

What is wrong with that. No matter what system you have, you are always going to have your big spenders. It is only natural that the better players go to the bigger clubs. That is a fact of life.
I would never have thought I would see you put forth the argument that you did. Are you not the one running around saying the comp is shit, local talent needs to be developed, or at least, clubs should be developing talent.
No club (at the elite level) can have a team full of "home growns" Not even Barcellona have that. Somewhere along the line you have to buy from outside. You will find if buying from outside was outlawed it would disadvantage the smaller clubs even more as most of their players, if not all, come from outside.

[MFKS]

What is wrong with that. No matter what system you have, you are always going to have your big spenders. It is only natural that the better players go to the bigger clubs. That is a fact of life.
I would never have thought I would see you put forth the argument that you did. Are you not the one running around saying the comp is shit, local talent needs to be developed, or at least, clubs should be developing talent.
No club (at the elite level) can have a team full of "home growns" Not even Barcellona have that. Somewhere along the line you have to buy from outside. You will find if buying from outside was outlawed it would disadvantage the smaller clubs even more as most of their players, if not all, come from outside.

Big Spenders?? It is a salary capped league where the onus is on it being a level playing field.
We ain't meant to be having big spenders.

The advantages Melburn and Sydney have relate squarely the population base of their cities they are from nothing more nothing less.

Pound for pound neither are really pulling their weight on junior development crowds etc. The crowds both those clubs get from 4 million population bases are really disgraceful when you consider what other clubs are getting off much smaller population bases.

They have done nothing to actually establish their positions of dominance it has been handed to them on a ****ing platter.

As for your point about clubs developing local talent??? Reread my post I was pretty certain I was calling for these two clubs to be putting money into their juniors pretty fervently. Signing from outside yeah sure it has to be done. My issue is that neither of these clubs do much at all in relation to yoof promotion from within and just poach from outside either young talented players with established known potential or ready made players. Worst of all they do a fair bit of this at the expense of rival clubs in this league making them weaker after their efforts at developing the players in the first place so you get the situation where the strong gain and weaken a rival in the case with Berisha leaving Roar for Vctree

[Jetmaster]

The salary cap wasn't being questioned until the Perth thing, and even then, the scrutiny has been on how Sydney and MV are hamstrung according to Bozza and fellow pundits on Fox.

Makes you wonder.

[belchardo]

The salary cap wasn't being questioned until the Perth thing, and even then, the scrutiny has been on how Sydney and MV are hamstrung according to Bozza and fellow pundits on Fox.

Makes you wonder.

I'm going to call this "The Archie Effect"