Daily Australian News Thread 2015

[Jeterpool]

New year, new thread
Mods please sticky

[Jetmaster]

Geelong looks a decent venue.

[GazFish35]

Thread made sticky

[GazFish35]

Compare http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/were-as-frustrated-as-you-are-wanderers-shannon-cole-understands-fan-anger-20150102-12h2bu.html with Carney's denial of returning abuse at Bodi.

[hawk]

bodi didnt jump the fence, big mistake. Carney is still out there trying though.

[WolfMan]

And the WSW players were acknowledging their supporters, the very reason Bodi questioned Carney Two very different circumstances.

[GazFish35]

And the WSW players were acknowledging their supporters, the very reason Bodi questioned Carney Two very different circumstances.

Agreed. But dealt with so much better by WSW.
WSW almost a punch on..... "It's cool, they're frustrated, so are we, I know the dude, it's sweet"
Jerks bit of mouth..... "It never happened, the fans are lying"

[Hunter403]

Matt Thompson has signed for Maitland City apparently

[Jetmaster]

Matt Thompson has signed for Maitland City apparently

Confirmed.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2797176/matt-land-magpies-npl-newcomers-sign-former-jets-skipper/?cs=306

[hawk]

1 more game then Aleague beer break

http://www.typesofbeeronline.com/wp-content/uploads/mvbthumbs/img_6936_german-breaks-world-record-for-carrying-most-beer-mugs.jpg

[MFKS]

Transfers have started

Roar have signed Jerome Polenz

Smurfs have signed some Senagelese midfielder.


Phil Stubbins is apparently happy with his squad that is why we have still signed no one :whistling:

[plague]

Cockeril banging on about a mass clean out at the Wanderers after tonight's game v Victory
Thought he said Mullen to the Jets was a done deal.

[MFKS]

Cockeril banging on about a mass clean out at the Wanderers after tonight's game v Victory
Thought he said Mullen to the Jets was a done deal.

Until the international Clearance comes through for the bloke and the bloke has done his 3 months in the injury rehab squad at jets training and the bloke has played for us on at least 1 occasion the word done deal means **** all to me.

There are many things that could scupper this done deal

[380]

That rehab would have to be from a knee injury right ?.

[halo se7en]

Is Mullen any good? I don't think I've seen much of him...

[Grimario]

Is Mullen any good? I don't think I've seen much of him...

Unfulfilled potential. Was touted as a Socceroo, played against Kuwait and has club hopped since. Don't think he's played often for WSW if at all.

[Thomas477]

Can't get a game at the last placed team. Defo starter here.

[Tommyjet]

He started out as a right back and has played there for the wankerers but I think he is more suited to centre back.

[Buddha]

You could put him in anywhere in the backline and he'd be a thousand times better than Gallaway/Gallagher/Welsh.

[Frodo]

He started out as a right back and has played there for the wankerers but I think he is more suited to centre back.

He played Centerback in Asia a few years back, and played either Right back or DM for the Wankerers. Looks like he could be an improvement on what we have... i.e. he seems to be able to pee standing up without help.:woo:

[pv4]

Mullen I thought had a terrific few runs in the ACL for WSW, but in the league I've found him quite underwhelming.

I'd still much rather have him as a RB, CB or even LB option than Gallaway, and if it is true as reported that a swap deal looks likely for the two, I say we're the winners out of the deal.

If we sign Mullen, I could see Neville become CB (I've liked what I've seen of him in the 3 man backline, and as CB when we've gone from 3 to 4 backs).

[MFKS]

Yep so a bloke not wanted by Adelaide Victree and Melburn is now suddenly gonna be great acquisition for us??

I need a bit of convincing that he is gonna improve our side rather than just be another bloke achieving the same results as the rest of them

[Frodo]

We have tried plenty of combinations of our current roster and can't find any sort of balance or backbone, maybe just changing for similar ilk players, especially AFC CL winners, is all we can hope for at the moment. We have no money to spend and no quality players will want to come until Tinks is gone. We will just have to find good fringe players and hope that they can offer something.

[Pico]

Yep so a bloke not wanted by Adelaide Victree and Melburn is now suddenly gonna be great acquisition for us??

I need a bit of convincing that he is gonna improve our side rather than just be another bloke achieving the same results as the rest of them

Topper & ljubo.......

[matty]

FFA to send hirachy to newy monday

http://m.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/nathan-tinkler-may-lose-control-of-jets-as-chief-executive-chairman-resign-20150108-12khqw.html

[hausmann]

FFA to send hirachy to newy monday

http://m.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/nathan-tinkler-may-lose-control-of-jets-as-chief-executive-chairman-resign-20150108-12khqw.html

Typical FFA. "While your up there for the Japan game, just pop your head in at the Jets". Is it too far for them to make a special trip from Sydney or something?

[plague]

Typical FFA. "While your up there for the Japan game, just pop your head in at the Jets". Is it too far for them to make a special trip from Sydney or something?

What are they going to find out in person that they wouldn't already know anyway?
Jets would be sending plenty of faxes and telegrams keeping FFA up to speed.

[hausmann]

What are they going to find out in person that they wouldn't already know anyway?
Jets would be sending plenty of faxes and telegrams keeping FFA up to speed.

It would just send a signal that they are taking their governance of the league seriously - making a single purpose trip to meet people face to face and eyeball them. When half their attention is focussed on networking in an Asian Cup corporate box, the gesture doesn't quite have the same gravitas. I think it would be better that they continued the line that they are heavily and constantly monitoring the Jets by remote than pretend the trip on Monday is anything other than a pitstop on a junket. They will be too focussed on the Asian Cup to put anyone at the Jets through the wringer.

[Tommyjet]

What are they going to find out in person that they wouldn't already know anyway?
Jets would be sending plenty of faxes and telegrams keeping FFA up to speed.

Might be able to meet with middleby and baartz and get the truth now. Nothing beats face to face discussion in ascertaining the true depth of problems.

[BodyNovo]

how stoked would they be that the jets HQ is now at the stadium.

they will pop in at 4.55, say hello and be straight in the corporate box for 5pm.

good planning imo

[Jetmaster]

Still think the timing of this has Tinkler behind it. He is forcing the FFA's hand, fully knowing that they probably felt they could just leave the Jets situation alone till the Asian Cup was over.

The guys coming up are probably in Melbourne as we speak.

[borat]

Mullen I thought had a terrific few runs in the ACL for WSW, but in the league I've found him quite underwhelming.

I'd still much rather have him as a RB, CB or even LB option than Gallaway, and if it is true as reported that a swap deal looks likely for the two, I say we're the winners out of the deal.

If we sign Mullen, I could see Neville become CB (I've liked what I've seen of him in the 3 man backline, and as CB when we've gone from 3 to 4 backs).

I think Mullen is well suited to a back 3 which is why Stubbins wants him

[plague]

It would just send a signal that they are taking their governance of the league seriously - making a single purpose trip to meet people face to face and eyeball them.

Eyeball who?
Everyone's quit brah.

[hausmann]

Eyeball who?

Whoever they are coming to see on Monday.

[plague]

Whoever they are coming to see on Monday.

Oh I see, the Jets just confirmed on Twitter that they will be represented by the Loch Ness Monster, Slenderman and Milko.

[MFKS]

Still think the timing of this has Tinkler behind it. He is forcing the FFA's hand, fully knowing that they probably felt they could just leave the Jets situation alone till the Asian Cup was over.

The guys coming up are probably in Melbourne as we speak.

The bloke is as cunning as a shit house rat with a gold tooth.

The looks of this is that there is some type of power play on for Tinks trying to force the FFA to take over as the buyers ain't available he might ideally want. The bloke has kept his end of the bargain that they can not take the licence off him and is just pulling the rug out everywhere else to make us a basketcase so they have to act

[furns]

Can you explain why would Tinks want to give away to the FFA for free one of the few assets he can actually sell?

[sammydog]

Because it will end up costing him too much money, eventually if there is no buyer he will be better to cut his losses and run.

[Tommyjet]

So according to stubbins, unlikely there will be any player arrivals thus month

[Thomas477]

Sounds about right. Well in Stubbs

[Jetmaster]

Ah but Tinks says we will be buying players in the window!

[GazFish35]

When does montano's loan end.

Tinks might throw $930 million at barca for Leo.

[Tommyjet]

Ah but Tinks says we will be buying players in the window!

We live in hope.





Usually turns to despair

[borat]

So according to stubbins, unlikely there will be any player arrivals thus month

Where did you see or hear that? That's different to everything I have read this morning

[MFKS]

Where did you see or hear that? That's different to everything I have read this morning

That was from an interview yesterday with Stubbins after Middleby Baartz announced their resignation and before Tinkler announced his backflip on selling Jets

[plague]

Ah but Tinks says we will be buying players in the window!

I honestly think Tinks is currently wandering through the Jets offices opening up all the windows looking for the one that has all the available players in it.

[borat]

That was from an interview yesterday with Stubbins after Middleby Baartz announced their resignation and before Tinkler announced his backflip on selling Jets
That interview is on the an NBN website now and makes no mention of not recruiting players. Where else was it reported?

Edit - ok, found it now. No direct quotes and inferred by the Herald. Yesterday's events would change things a little

[Tommyjet]

That interview is on the an NBN website now and makes no mention of not recruiting players. Where else was it reported?

Edit - ok, found it now. No direct quotes and inferred by the Herald. Yesterday's events would change things a little

Hope it does change things. For all we know tinks might be willing to throw 500k at a replacement for Steele.

[MFKS]

Hope it does change things. For all we know tinks might be willing to throw 500k at a replacement for Steele.

Hopefully he don't waste the 500k giving Galloway a 5 year contract

[WolfMan]

I honestly think Tinks is currently wandering through the Jets offices opening up all the windows looking for the one that has all the available players in it.

I LOL'd IRL

[hawk]

Show us the money: FFA to question Jets on $140k debt to Northern

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2809920/show-us-the-money/?cs=306

clive P pt2

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Adama Traore has signed with FC Basel today.

[goaliepersempre]

Adama Traore has signed with FC Basel today.
super league is where its at... although scheisse fc basel..

[GazFish35]

Ch9 planning avid for a-league on free to air!

http://vimeo.com/116526956

:)

[MFKS]

Apparently Arnold got hit with a 5k fine for his criticism of the officials after our last game. :sup:

[lquiquer]

Apparently Arnold got hit with a 5k fine for his criticism of the officials after our last game. :sup:

5K,.....!!! Pfff.... Peanuts , 2 weeks rent in Vaucluse

[sammydog]

Apparently Arnold got hit with a 5k fine for his criticism of the officials after our last game. :sup:

SFC have spent more on fines than we have on player recruitment.

[MFKS]

Speculation is mounting that Football Federation Australia is trying to engineer an early end to its four-year $160 million broadcast deal with Fox Sports *Australia and SBS.

The deal, which includes A-league matches, Socceroo games and the Asian Cup tournament that began on Friday night, is in its second year.

Football authorities are said to be concerned about soft ratings for A-league matches on SBS, which relies on some funding from the federal government for its share of the rights, and believe they can extract more value from a deal with free-to-air commercial networks such as Seven West Media and Network Ten.

It is understood both Seven and Ten have indicated to the FFA they would be at least interested in *discussing a new deal when negotiations open.

FFA chief executive David Gallop would not comment on any move to end the current deal, saying: “Every match that is broadcast, including the Asian Cup, shows the attraction of the sport and points towards the next broadcast deal we will have.”

Any deal before the present contract expires in 2017 would be contingent on Fox Sports agreeing to bring negotiations forward and SBS, which may not break even on its coverage, *giving up its rights. The FFA could move before the third season of the deal or even the end of the current 2014-15 season.

Authorities are said to be confident of achieving a big increase in the value, potentially up to $80 million annually, though such a rise is contingent on networks believing football can gain significantly higher ratings that it does now.

Fox Sports holds the majority of the football rights. It broadcasts all A-league matches, Socceroos’ games and the Asian Cup live, while SBS simulcasts one A-league game each Friday night.

The ABC signed a deal late last year enabling it to show some Asian Cup group games on delay and latter stages of the tournament, including any involving the Socceroos, live.

FFA executives, meanwhile, will travel to Newcastle this week to meet the management of the Nathan Tinkler-owned Newcastle Jets.

*Speculation intensified last week that Mr Tinkler could relinquish his licence to own the team after its CEO Robbie Middleby and chairman Ray Baartz quit last week.

Mr Tinkler has previously indicated publicly he wants to sell the club, although a search for new owners in Europe last year proved fruitless.

However, it is understood the former billionaire placated FFA management, at least in the short term, after discussions on Friday where he indicated he wanted to continue his ownership of the Jets.

The team’s management will use the A-league break during the Asian Cup to undertake a mid-season review. The Jets are in second-last position in the competition, ahead of only the Western *Sydney Wanderers.
..

Interesting the FFA want to **** SBS off

[redwah]

..

Interesting the FFA want to **** SBS off

Craig Foster....enough said

[plague]

Double eff aye don't owe SBS anything. SBS treated the double eff aye and A-League with utter disdain when they were trying to get the comp started.

Can't wait to hear Paul Wade and Big Jim Wilson calling the games for Channel 7.

[Jeterpool]

Give it to Channel Ten.

Ten = Mel

[plague]

Give it to Channel Ten.

Ten = Mel

Legit, I would pay good money for a Mel v Tara pillow fight pay per view.

Phwooaaarrr

[Jeterpool]

Legit, I would pay good money for a Mel v Tara pillow fight pay per view.

Phwooaaarrr

I'll chip in for that

[stockojet]

how do we seriously support this club when players continue to walk out the door. overseas I can understand but any Jet looking to go to sydney FC should be shot at dawn. Thats just not on. Beginning to think we need to close the Jets down altogether as no team to support would be less painful than losing players and breaking up the team. They are doing my head in. Cant you tell

[MFKS]

Legit, I would pay good money for a Mel v Tara pillow fight pay per view.

Phwooaaarrr

I would pay more for them being in lingerie and having an oil wrestling match

[joel31]

Craig Foster....enough said
Craig is good. 1000000000x better than those thugby commentators we would get on 9 or 7

[Bon]

Legit, I would pay good money for a Mel v Tara pillow fight pay per view.

Phwooaaarrr

Can not rate this enough..
It NEEDS to happen..

[GazFish35]

Ch9 planning avid for a-league on free to air!

http://vimeo.com/116526956

:)


Makes this more relelvant

[Jeterpool]

Can not rate this enough..
It NEEDS to happen..

Couldn't give Member or plague rep so you got it Bon.

[redwah]

Craig is good. 1000000000x better than those thugby commentators we would get on 9 or 7

True but 1000000000x 0 is still 0.

[leftrightout]

Juric turned down Chinese club payday to try his luck in Europe. Obviously enough people got in his ear to convince him $$$$ isn't going to make him what he could be!

[Buddha]

I would pay more for them being in lingerie and having an oil wrestling match

**** that, I'd chop my dick off to see them get naked and flick each other's beans

[MFKS]

**** that, I'd chop my dick off to see them get naked and flick each other's beans

I think you have gone too far there.

They do that and you will need your dick FFS

[Buddha]

I think you have gone too far there.

They do that and you will need your dick FFS

The sacrifices you make for the good of the country ;)

[Jetmaster]

Legit, I would pay good money for a Mel v Tara pillow fight pay per view.

Phwooaaarrr

An event to raise money for the Jets held at the Ent Cent.

As he loves chicks - do it Tinks.

[borat]

how do we seriously support this club when players continue to walk out the door. overseas I can understand but any Jet looking to go to sydney FC should be shot at dawn. Thats just not on. Beginning to think we need to close the Jets down altogether as no team to support would be less painful than losing players and breaking up the team. They are doing my head in. Cant you tell

Seriously......harden up

World Exclusive - 2 players leave squad during transfer window

[Grimario]

Seriously......harden up

World Exclusive - 2 players leave squad during transfer window

2 board members, 2 players and rumour of 4-5 more...

[joel31]

2 board members, 2 players and rumour of 4-5 more...
and the media manager

[MFKS]

Who gives a **** who is going?? (Unless It is carney of course)

Lets just all face the hugh penis on the foreshore and prey our thanks that we still have the Griff.

[borat]

And.....

The contradictions in this place are beyond baffling. You all moan about how poorly the team is being run and when the people in question leave the sky falling.

Don't get me wrong, there are many many things wrong with this club starting with the ownership, but removing 2 board members and 2 fringe squad players is a positive thing.

As far as rumours go, they're rumours. Hardly worth getting your panties in a twist.

If I can sumarise

Carney is signing with SFC.....except that he isn't. Fox sports reporting this morning that he is too expensive for SFC

Hoole, Neville are attracting offers for next season from other clubs........Wow that's devastating news. If none of our players were of interest to other clubs we would really be in trouble.

Birraz interested in a move. Our current No 2 keeper apparently wants to move on.....wow, what unexpected terrible news.

We are running 2nd last and if it wasn't for the ACL I sure we would be last. Keeping our entire squad as is will ensure we get the spoon. I hope big Phil continues to move on a lot more than just the 2 players that have gone before January ends

[joel31]

Please sign for SFC Carney
Please stay Hoole

[WolfMan]

Please sign for SFC Carney
Please stay Hoole

+1,000,000

[Imyourhero]

Hoole is such a raw talent and with the right coaching could become a great player. Honestly for his own good and the good of a possible future socceroo i would like to see him go.

[borat]

Please sign for SFC Carney
Please stay Hoole

Definitely agree. Have heard that the squad is extremely top heavy salary wise with a few players on big big money and I would guess that Carney is one of them.

If we were in the top 2 and shedding players it would be something to worry about. Shedding players in the bottom 2 is a godsend

[pv4]

How is it advantageous for us to free up wage space? We don't pay players salaries - the FFA do. And if we use less of the allocated funds available, the FFA doesn't give us that money.

[joel31]

Hoole is such a raw talent and with the right coaching could become a great player. Honestly for his own good and the good of a possible future socceroo i would like to see him go.
Surely it would be better for him to play every week at Newy then to never play at Sydney

[joel31]

How is it advantageous for us to free up wage space? We don't pay players salaries - the FFA do. And if we use less of the allocated funds available, the FFA doesn't give us that money.
That isn't how I thought it worked
What is your source for that?

[Jeterpool]

That isn't how I thought it worked
What is your source for that?

The money from the FFA to the clubs, which is from the TV money, is enough for the club to pay the salary cap to players.

[Grimario]

The money from the FFA to the clubs, which is from the TV money, is enough for the club to pay the salary cap to players.

Yeah, but the TV money doesn't sit in a kitty at FFA HQ and can only be drawn on by salary, surely? If Tinks & co slash everyone, that money still goes to the Jerks, right?

Problem is the salary floor which neither FFA or PFA will answer me about on twitter.

[hawk]

Hoole is such a raw talent and with the right coaching could become a great player. Honestly for his own good and the good of a possible future socceroo i would like to see him go.

nah. stay and face the hard facts and be a hero when fortunes turn*

*hopefully within 10

[pv4]

Yeah, but the TV money doesn't sit in a kitty at FFA HQ and can only be drawn on by salary, surely? If Tinks & co slash everyone, that money still goes to the Jerks, right?

Problem is the salary floor which neither FFA or PFA will answer me about on twitter.

Neg

The TV deal money is only for the salary cap. Clubs don't receive the leftover money if they don't fully use the cap. And also, it's not just one big lump sum given to each club that they can spend however - it is specifically for player payments.

That's why the month or two back when we weren't paying our staff, there was no mention of players not getting their wage and it was only backroom staff that were the worry - because the backroom staff are the operating costs the club actually have to fork out for themselves.

If I'm led to believe correctly, the FFA work in yearly-quarters as to when they review the amount of salary cap each club has used (as it obviously changes all the time, with contract terminations, injury replacements, squad additions, etc). So I assume that the clubs get a payment each quarter from the FFA for player wages.

[pv4]

Problem is the salary floor which neither FFA or PFA will answer me about on twitter.

Salary floor is 85% of the salary cap.

[Grimario]

That's awesome then.

Still doesn't solve the "how ****ed are the Jets if they don't pay the salary floor" question though.

And I know it is 85%... but if we bin off 4-5 players and our total salary is less than that, how ****ed are we?

[pv4]

That's awesome then.

Still doesn't solve the "how ****ed are the Jets if they don't pay the salary floor" question though.

And I know it is 85%... but if we bin off 4-5 players and our total salary is less than that, how ****ed are we?

If my maths is correct, the difference between 85% of the cap and 100% is $380,250. So that's 2-3 higher paid players, or a heap of squaddies, that we can offload no worries.

If we do drop below the salary floor, what I would imagine would happen is we give a raise to some of our existing players - some of which we'd be in negotiations to re-sign already as they'll be out of contract at the end of this year.

[Jeterpool]

Just asked Lowey how the negotiations with Mullen are going. Things have stalled because we can't agree with WSW about the % of his wage they'll pay.

Interesting!

[pv4]

Just asked Lowey how the negotiations with Mullen are going. Things have stalled because we can't agree with WSW about the % of his wage they'll pay.

Interesting!

WSW are probably trying to crunch the numbers to see how many of their new signings for ACL-only they can fit into the HAL squad, and adjust their cap accordingly.

I know when CCM had Flores, MV were paying 60% of his wage still. This kind of thing (split salaries across two clubs) isn't uncommon in the league.

[Jeterpool]

WSW are probably trying to crunch the numbers to see how many of their new signings for ACL-only they can fit into the HAL squad, and adjust their cap accordingly.

I know when CCM had Flores, MV were paying 60% of his wage still. This kind of thing (split salaries across two clubs) isn't uncommon in the league.

So I read into that we're still paying for Gallaway's salary. :gent:

And of course you'd know the books of the gypos Pv4. ;)

[Bon]

Legit, I would pay good money for a Mel v Tara pillow fight pay per view.

Phwooaaarrr

Just wanted to put this one out there again, I still haven't washed since that fateful day..
956

[Jeterpool]

Just wanted to put this one out there again, I still haven't washed since that fateful day..
956

Yeah I could smell you from my seat in Bay 10 on Tuesday.

[Bon]

Yeah I could smell you from my seat in Bay 10 on Tuesday.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so that was you!!!
I kept going "man, that bloke looks familiar" but I was sober at the stadium for once and couldn't put my finger on it..

[Couscous]

Just wanted to put this one out there again, I still haven't washed since that fateful day..

Hover hand or no hover hand?

[borat]

How is it advantageous for us to free up wage space? We don't pay players salaries - the FFA do. And if we use less of the allocated funds available, the FFA doesn't give us that money.

Thats not correct. The FFA still provide central grants as they have always done, its just that the amount the clubs receive since last season now exceeds the salary cap. As pointed out there is an 85% cap floor that must be spent meaning that funds in excess of 85% can be spent by the club as they see fit. FFA pays the clubs quarterly and clubs pay the players.

[Edit] The CEO/chairman of every club is required to provide a signed undertaking that the club distributions will only go towards player salaries. Any additional funds remaining after player payments are are met can be used for "other purposes" providing all other obligations have been met.

Out of interest the difference now between salary floor and grant is this year $382, 500. [Edit]

What is different is how the penalties are enforced now for non-payment of players. Non payment of players is and has always been a breach of licence meaning its grounds for stripping the licence as what happened to Con. When the grants were increased clubs were told the enforcement would be non conditional and any non-payment would result in a stripping of the licence. Thats why Tinks has always maintained the players are paid on time although there has been instances of late payment of super.

[borat]

Yeah, but the TV money doesn't sit in a kitty at FFA HQ and can only be drawn on by salary, surely? If Tinks & co slash everyone, that money still goes to the Jerks, right?

Problem is the salary floor which neither FFA or PFA will answer me about on twitter.

They could potentially only slash players to the 20 player squad minimum and 85% of the cap. We are reportedly already well under cap but as both Flores and Galloway were min wage players its unlikely to have any effect to the cap. Any other players sold from this point will have to be replaced to the same value at least to keep within A-league regulations

[borat]

That's awesome then.

Still doesn't solve the "how ****ed are the Jets if they don't pay the salary floor" question though.

And I know it is 85%... but if we bin off 4-5 players and our total salary is less than that, how ****ed are we?

We would be in breach of the regs for clubs and the licence could be revoked. That won't happen while Tinks wants to keep/sell the club.

The CBA covers all this

[belchardo]

Thats not correct. The FFA still provide central grants as they have always done, its just that the amount the clubs receive since last season now exceeds the salary cap. As pointed out there is an 85% cap floor that must be spent meaning that funds in excess of 85% can be spent by the club as they see fit. FFA pays the clubs quarterly and clubs pay the players.

[Edit] The CEO/chairman of every club is required to provide a signed undertaking that the club distributions will only go towards player salaries. Any additional funds remaining after player payments are are met can be used for "other purposes" providing all other obligations have been met.

Out of interest the difference now between salary floor and grant is this year $382, 500. [Edit]

What is different is how the penalties are enforced now for non-payment of players. Non payment of players is and has always been a breach of licence meaning its grounds for stripping the licence as what happened to Con. When the grants were increased clubs were told the enforcement would be non conditional and any non-payment would result in a stripping of the licence. Thats why Tinks has always maintained the players are paid on time although there has been instances of late payment of super.

ah ok. that solves that. i was thinking after earlier posts that if FFA covers the full salary cap, and the money can only be used for the salary cap, then why the hell wouldn't a club use the full salary cap? your "other purposes" makes it abundantly clear. FFA subsidising tinks.

[GazFish35]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/01/16/tinkler-vows-get-jets-house-order


Tinkler, who took over as chairman after the resignation last week of Ray Baartz, said he is working with the governing body to ease its anxieties and 'take the club forward'.

The Singapore-based businessman also insisted that a new CEO would be appointed within weeks to replace Robbie Middleby, who left the club along with Baartz, a move which prompted Tinkler into taking the reins.

"There are things we need to fix like our relationship with Northern NSW Football. But I don’t think you would walk into any A-League club and say everything is perfect," said Tinkler.

"Those outstanding debts will get tidied up. We have now got our heads around things and are working on fixing them in the next couple of weeks.

"I’m still getting my feet under the desk (as chairman) and I have spoken to just about everybody involved with the club now.

"There are definitely things to work on and we need to improve our performance off the paddock as well as on it."

The Jets owe $140,000 to Northern NSW Football for the Emerging Jets and W-League programs and are $30,000 in arrears in rent at their university training base.

A-League chief Damien De Bohun and the FFA's chief operating officer John Kelly journeyed to the Hunter on Monday to meet Jets staff and assess the club’s operations, with De Bohun subsequently expressing his concerns over its sustainability but also stating he was pleased to see Tinkler pledging to inject capital and taking a more hands on role.

"There’s no magic bullet in turning the place around,” added Tinkler. "Acknowledging issues and dealing with them is the first step forward - and we are doing that.

"We are working with FFA to make them comfortable. They have our full cooperation."

Tinker reiterated his desire to swiftly appoint a new CEO, adding: “The process is going ahead. Some candidates should be shortlisted in the next week or two and then we’ll conduct some interviews and we’ll get somebody fit for purpose that can be there day-to-day and take things forward."

He also lashed out at those he believes have questioned the club’s commitment to its 10,000-plus members.

"There’s a perception out there put forward by certain sections of the media that we don’t have a deep relationship with our member base,” he said.

"We have built that member base and getting results for our members and fans is our primary aim ... it narks me when people say we aren’t focused on membership or community engagement.

"That’s the top priority for everybody involved at club. One thing we all have in common is that we want the club to win and unfortunately injuries haven’t helped us this year."

While young defender Sam Gallaway and playmaker Marcos Flores have left the club within days of each other, Tinkler insisted he is working to keep the core of the team together and revealed that Andrew Hoole – one of the bright sparks in a disappointing first half of the season – has been offered a new contract in a bid to stave off a raid from Sydney FC.

"(Jets coach) Phil (Stubbins) is looking forward to working with him and watching him develop over the next few years," he said.

"We’ve tabled a new offer and are very keen to retain him. He is a great young prospect and we want to retain our best juniors, starting with him.

"He’s been a standout and one of the best under 23 year olds in the competition."

On the exit of Flores to North American Soccer League side Jacksonville Armada, Tinkler said: "It would have been silly to stand in his way after he was offered a three-year contract. He had some fitness issues with us and was limited in the amount of games he played."

Tinkler said he was heartened that David Carney had committed himself to the club despite interest from Sydney FC, adding: “He has been one of our best this season.

"He’s happy to stay and is a winner who wants to be a part of what we’re trying to build here."

Tinkler is also hoping to see the best of creative midfielder Billy Celeski in the second half of the season after he too was beset by injuries.

"We haven’t seen much of him yet but he was one of the better players in the competition a year or so back and hopefully there will be an upside in the second half of the season when we get guys like him and Jeronimo more involved and up to peak form."

Tinkler shrugged off on-going criticism of his methods in the Newcastle press, declaring: “A few bloggers doesn't ruin anybody’s day.

"I’d like to think the FFA is a bit smarter and looks at the 10,000-plus members and not the three or so different names that login and blog the same stupid comments every day. That's effectively what they call the Newcastle Herald isn't it?

"Whether it’s a Jets coach, a Knights coach, a Jets CEO or a Knights chairman ... once you take on that role in Newcastle you are there to be vilified.

"Every time the team gets beat it’s your fault. Every player indiscretion is your fault – that's just how it is.

"I have spent lot of time in Newcastle and I don’t think everybody is like that. Just one small portion of the media, unfortunately.

"It’s nice to get into club in a more hands on way, build some relationships, tackle some issues – hopefully people are appreciating dealing with a decision maker."

[GazFish35]

"I’m still getting my feet under the desk (as chairman) and I have spoken to just about everybody involved with the club now.

Fans?


Tinkler insisted he is working to keep the core of the team together and revealed that Andrew Hoole – one of the bright sparks in a disappointing first half of the season – has been offered a new contract in a bid to stave off a raid from Sydney FC.

This is good.


"I’d like to think the FFA is a bit smarter and looks at the 10,000-plus members and not the three or so different names that login and blog the same stupid comments every day. That's effectively what they call the Newcastle Herald isn't it?

As much as this made me laugh, insulting the paper isn't a great move.




All up, a decent positive outlook.
Could be smoke and mirrors, time will tell.
Makes a great point about Newcastle's tall poppy syndrome, it is one thing we need to shake off if we are ever going to progress.

[matty]

Also just saw our favourite pieman is no longer required
https://twitter.com/socstoppagetime/status/556214722379657216

[Jetmaster]

Surprised how he actually knows who the guys in the club are - a very lucid interview, interesting.

Worst case is it is all baloney and we'll be taken over by FFA or fold.

Best case is Tinks has seen the light, told RM and RB to jump or be pushed and will bring better people in.

I'm 50/50 at this stage - as above, time will tell.

[GazFish35]

Also just saw our favourite pieman is no longer required
https://twitter.com/socstoppagetime/status/556214722379657216

**** me. I bet Tinks throws him a contract.

[MFKS]

Also just saw our favourite pieman is no longer required
https://twitter.com/socstoppagetime/status/556214722379657216

What price he signs for us??

Things are already hard enough to swallow as it is.

We are desperate for players and he is available.



This just keeps getting worse :facepalm:

[The Dunster]

Love how Tinks is using the " No babe I won't blow in your mouth" approach to getting the fans on side.

[joel31]

what is this?
Tinkler speaking sense

[Jeterpool]

**** me. I bet Tinks throws him a contract.

One way of destroying the club from the inside.

[borat]

Surprised how he actually knows who the guys in the club are - a very lucid interview, interesting.

Worst case is it is all baloney and we'll be taken over by FFA or fold.

Best case is Tinks has seen the light, told RM and RB to jump or be pushed and will bring better people in.

I'm 50/50 at this stage - as above, time will tell.

I think it's fantastic that the bloke writing the cheques finally is interested in the players. Whatever the endgame

[MFKS]

Surprised how he actually knows who the guys in the club are - a very lucid interview, interesting.

Worst case is it is all baloney and we'll be taken over by FFA or fold.

Best case is Tinks has seen the light, told RM and RB to jump or be pushed and will bring better people in.

I'm 50/50 at this stage - as above, time will tell.


Issue is at this stage it is all talk.
Talk may lead to action and all that
Talk may also be bullshit being blown up our arses.

Not wishing to be a cynical **** but we have years of talk from the club about sticking with us we will turn it around and all the other bullshit clichés spat out.
Actions speak louder than words.

I think we need to see some action in the next week and I am not talking about signing some nobody we have never heard of.
Tinks need to deliver something that says he is to be believed until then the jury is out

[borat]

Issue is at this stage it is all talk.
Talk may lead to action and all that
Talk may also be bullshit being blown up our arses.

Not wishing to be a cynical **** but we have years of talk from the club about sticking with us we will turn it around and all the other bullshit clichés spat out.
Actions speak louder than words.

I think we need to see some action in the next week and I am not talking about signing some nobody we have never heard of.
Tinks need to deliver something that says he is to be believed until then the jury is out

I agree, though will give him till the end of the transfer window

We have 2 foreign spots in the roster. If he was serious we would use them

[Jeterpool]

In my opinion he's saying all the right things but behind the scenes it's far from what he's portraying and is running the club into the ground and asset stripping so he can make himself out to be the good guy when all hell breaks loose and the FFA step in.

[GazFish35]

Not wishing to be a cynical ****



:lulz:

[borat]

In my opinion he's saying all the right things but behind the scenes it's far from what he's portraying and is running the club into the ground and asset stripping so he can make himself out to be the good guy when all hell breaks loose and the FFA step in.

It's been a week, what were you expecting? And what assets has he stripped?

I don't particularly beleive the guy either but there has been nothing this week that suggests what you say. It's the previous 18 months he has to answer for.

[MFKS]

In my opinion he's saying all the right things but behind the scenes it's far from what he's portraying and is running the club into the ground and asset stripping so he can make himself out to be the good guy when all hell breaks loose and the FFA step in.

That's my big concern.

So far he is saying all the right PR things. Problem is so far we have no action.

I understand to be perfectly fair he still has the end of the transfer window to make positive signings. Problem is the concern is present already. Until he makes a positive move the concern will remain

. As soon as a positive move is made people will then sleep better about life.

The ball is in Tinks court to make us believe him.

[De-Champ]

I am amazed that for a guy that no interest/knowledge of football, the only game he has attended is the perth game, and he seems to know a lot about the players. is it him or someone speaking for him?
.

[Couscous]

"I’d like to think the FFA is a bit smarter and looks at the 10,000-plus members and not the three or so different names that login and blog the same stupid comments every day. That's effectively what they call the Newcastle Herald isn't it?

Hard to hate Tinkler.

[Grimario]

Hard to hate Tinkler.

Says Mr Whythe****dontyoulinktotheherald...

[Jeterpool]

It's been a week, what were you expecting? And what assets has he stripped?

I don't particularly beleive the guy either but there has been nothing this week that suggests what you say. It's the previous 18 months he has to answer for.

I'm just skeptical.

As for assets stripping, we've seen two players leave so far, rumours of 3 more including our more prized players. Granted they're rumours but I noises coming out are less than positive.

[lquiquer]

I am amazed that for a guy that no interest/knowledge of football, the only game he has attended is the perth game, and he seems to know a lot about the players. is it him or someone speaking for him?
.

Maybe he knows more that we think????!!... Dunno but what the f#%*k does he do all day in Singapore ???

[GazFish35]

Sounds like big Phil is in his ear talking the back half of the season up.

[hawk]

Maybe he knows more that we think????!!... Dunno but what the f#%*k does he do all day in Singapore ???

He knows shlt. cant put down the mining weekly.

Has been briefed by recently chatting to a couple in the know. Planned a few go forward speeches, get some new blood in on & off the pitch. win a few games then sell for the 5 nikka. Caaarn tink$

[380]

Sounds like big Phil is in his ear talking the back half of the season up.

In that case Phil better step aside and let the improvement commence.

[Couscous]

Says Mr Whythe****dontyoulinktotheherald...

Listen, pal, at least Tinks cites the publications he's talking about. That's all I ever asked.

[borat]

I am amazed that for a guy that no interest/knowledge of football, the only game he has attended is the perth game, and he seems to know a lot about the players. is it him or someone speaking for him?
.
Undoubtedly well briefed before giving that interview.

But to be fair any new chairman would want to be briefed in the first week of the job.

[borat]

I'm just skeptical.

As for assets stripping, we've seen two players leave so far, rumours of 3 more including our more prized players. Granted they're rumours but I noises coming out are less than positive. I am more amazed that you think Gallaway was an asset 😜

[Jeterpool]

Hoole eyes Sydney FC exit despite Tinkler overtures
By CRAIG KERRY
Jan. 18, 2015, 10 p.m.

NEWCASTLE Jets young gun Andrew Hoole is leaning towards joining Sydney FC for next season despite club owner Nathan Tinkler vowing on the weekend to make him a priority signing.

In an interview on The World Game website on Saturday, Tinkler said Hoole had been offered a new contract in an attempt to keep the former Broadmeadow Magic midfielder from joining Sydney.

‘‘We’ve tabled a new offer and are very keen to retain him,’’ said Tinkler, who appointed himself Jets chairman after the resignation of Ray Baartz on January 8.

‘‘He is a great young prospect and we want to retain our best juniors, starting with him.

‘‘He’s been a standout and one of the best under-23-year-olds in the competition.’’

The Newcastle Herald, though, understands Hoole is likely to choose Sydney this week after receiving similar two-year deals from the two clubs.

Hoole, 21, has played 39times for the Jets since debuting in 2012-13 and looms as a key player for the Olyroos in their Rio 2016 Olympics qualifying campaign.

While they may lose Hoole, the Jets are expected to announce the retention of home-grown goalkeeper Ben Kennedy this week.

The 27-year-old, who has taken over from Mark Birighitti as the Jets’ preferred goalkeeper this season, is off contract at the end of this season and has attracted interest from other clubs, but he is tipped to sign off on a two-year extension with Newcastle.

The news comes amid assurances from Tinkler in the World Game interview that the club’s debts, including $140,000 owed to Northern NSW Football, ‘‘will get tidied up’’ in the ‘‘next couple of weeks’’.

‘‘There are things we need to fix, like our relationship with Northern NSW Football. But I don’t think you would walk into any A-League club and say everything is perfect,’’ Tinkler is quoted as saying.

‘‘Those outstanding debts will get tidied up. We have now got our heads around things and are working on fixing them in the next couple of weeks.

‘‘I’m still getting my feet under the desk [as chairman], and I have spoken to just about everybody involved with the club now.

‘‘There are definitely things to work on and we need to improve our performance off the paddock as well as on it.’’

Tinkler owes NNSWF more than $140,000 in promised contributions to the Emerging Jets and W-League programs from last year. He reneged on an agreement to give $140,000 to the Emerging Jets this year and is $30,000 behind in rent for the Jets’ training ground, Ray Watt Oval.

A-League chief Damien De Bohun said after a visit to Newcastle last week that paying the club’s debts was a priority for Jets management after the resignation of Baartz and chief executive Robbie Middleby and Tinkler’s decision to take the club off the market.

Tinkler put the Jets up for sale in August, saying ‘‘I can’t wait to get them out the door’’ and that ‘‘I’ve been very good to Newcastle, but that place hasn’t done anything but shit on me’’.

Despite those comments, the Singapore-based former billionaire on Saturday blasted those who questioned his club’s commitment to their 10,000-plus members.

‘‘There’s a perception out there put forward by certain sections of the media that we don’t have a deep relationship with our member base,’’ The World Games quoted him as saying.

‘‘We have built that member base, and getting results for our members and fans is our primary aim ... it narks me when people say we aren’t focused on membership or community engagement.

‘‘That’s the top priority for everybody involved at the club. One thing we all have in common is that we want the club to win, and unfortunately injuries haven’t helped us this year.’’

Tinkler then took aim at the Newcastle Herald, which requested an interview with the Jets chairman last week.

The Herald’s Robert Dillon won gongs at the Kennedy Awards for Excellence in NSW Journalism, the NSW Regional Media Awards, the Australian Sports Commission Media Awards and the prestigious Australian Walkley Awards for his fearless coverage of Tinkler’s tumultuous reign and demise as owner of the Newcastle Knights.

‘‘A few bloggers doesn’t ruin anybody’s day,’’ Tinkler told The World Game.

‘‘I’d like to think the FFA is a bit smarter and looks at the 10,000-plus members, and not the three or so different names that log in and blog the same stupid comments every day. That’s effectively what they call the Newcastle Herald, isn’t it?

‘‘Whether it’s a Jets coach, a Knights coach, a Jets CEO or a Knights chairman ... once you take on that role in Newcastle, you are there to be vilified.

‘‘Every time the team gets beat it’s your fault. Every player indiscretion is your fault – that’s just how it is.

‘‘I have spent a lot of time in Newcastle, and I don’t think everybody is like that. Just one small portion of the media, unfortunately.

‘‘It’s nice to get into the club in a more hands-on way, build some relationships, tackle some issues. Hopefully people are appreciating dealing with a decision maker.’’

Tinkler said the process to replace Middleby was ‘‘going ahead’’.

‘‘Some candidates should be shortlisted in the next week or two and then we’ll conduct some interviews and we’ll get somebody fit for the purpose that can be there day-to-day and take things forward.’’


Ok, so Hoole gone and BK standard (i.e. for another 2 year contract).

[BodyNovo]

BK Fanbois we did it.

[WolfMan]

No hard feelings against Hoole for leaving, especially in the current circumstances. But what the hell is the point of an Emerging Jets program if we aren't capable of keeping our home-grown talent? Might as well re-brand it now and save the rubbish. Emerging Sky Blues or some such.

[Couscous]

I'm glad the Herald reported on its own reported crapness. Now that's good journalism.

[MFKS]

I'm glad the Herald reported on its own reported crapness. Now that's good journalism.


No its not.

Your colleagues just used your own paper to slag yourselves off.


Well done

[Jeterpool]

No its not.

Your colleagues just used your own paper to slag yourselves off.


Well done

Saracasm member, sarcasm.

Couscous - just a tip, if you're taking the piss use :gent: or :lulz:. This forum is mostly taking the piss hence why it's often goes unused.

[traffic light]

I wish tinkler would get his fat smelly bogan ass out of here.

[borat]

Ok, so Hoole gone and BK standard (i.e. for another 2 year contract).

And last week it was Carney & Birraz gone.........

This is a Manager talking to the herald to rachet up an offer. 101 in negotiating overs for a client from the Jets is to mention rival SFC offer.

Let's see if Tinks can seal this one. Would go a long way to proving his intentions. Hoole would be worth it purely on his OS sale price.

[pv4]

BK has re-signed until the end of 16/17.

[hawk]

fantastic-
focus on signing the best players 1st, that way he will encourage quality players to come to the jets?
Only the Jets would sign BK.
Danny Ireland is a better keeper.
the comedy continues

lols, npl struggle to beat jets youth

[Jetmaster]

Ok, so Hoole gone and BK standard (i.e. for another 2 year contract).

Not saying it won't happen but where in the article does it say this?

What it does say.....


The Newcastle Herald, though, understands Hoole is likely to choose Sydney this week after receiving similar two-year deals from the two clubs.

As Borat says....agent games with Tinks coming to town he sees more money for himself and his client.

[hawk]

read the media yeet?

[MFKS]

BK has re-signed until the end of 16/17.

That's just bordering on ****ing stupid that.

Leaving the whole Birraz V BK who is the better keeper aside cause it is a separate issue I find it ****ing astoundingly short sighted and stupid to be signing our No 1 and No 2 Keepers in Birraz and BK (order them how you see fit) to deals where the pair of them are defo on 6 figure plus contracts.

Every ****ing week we are having a hefty piece of our salary cap training every day to sit on the ****ing bench game day. Considering how the FFA allow immediate transfers in of a keeper any time of the year it would make sense we sign the best keeper we can get whether that is BK Birraz or another bloke and then assign the No2 to the Yoof Keeper and pay him 55k a year or whatever the minimum is to sit on the bench.

If your first choice goes down injured/suspended then you either soldier on with the Yoof bloke or you bring bloke in on an injury waiver like we did the other year with Nashy when Brockie smashed Birrazs face up.

Only in Newy would we waste such a large part of the salary cap on a reserve keeper. Money that could be better spent elsewhere on our shit house side.

Considering also that Birraz is under contract already I find the decision to extend BK's for 2 years ****ing absurd and incredibly short sighted when a case could be argued that we are not certain to return to lofty heights in the HAL with either of these blokes in goal.

We have basically signed two Keepers up one who has talent but has some issues that need resolving ASAP and another one who has probably reached his potential and plateaued out yet neither of them are currently in the top couple of keepers in the League

[Wilso8948]

That's just bordering on ****ing stupid that.

Leaving the whole Birraz V BK who is the better keeper aside cause it is a separate issue I find it ****ing astoundingly short sighted and stupid to be signing our No 1 and No 2 Keepers in Birraz and BK (order them how you see fit) to deals where the pair of them are defo on 6 figure plus contracts.

Every ****ing week we are having a hefty piece of our salary cap training every day to sit on the ****ing bench game day. Considering how the FFA allow immediate transfers in of a keeper any time of the year it would make sense we sign the best keeper we can get whether that is BK Birraz or another bloke and then assign the No2 to the Yoof Keeper and pay him 55k a year or whatever the minimum is to sit on the bench.

If your first choice goes down injured/suspended then you either soldier on with the Yoof bloke or you bring bloke in on an injury waiver like we did the other year with Nashy when Brockie smashed Birrazs face up.

Only in Newy would we waste such a large part of the salary cap on a reserve keeper. Money that could be better spent elsewhere on our shit house side.

Considering also that Birraz is under contract already I find the decision to extend BK's for 2 years ****ing absurd and incredibly short sighted when a case could be argued that we are not certain to return to lofty heights in the HAL with either of these blokes in goal.

We have basically signed two Keepers up one who has talent but has some issues that need resolving ASAP and another one who has probably reached his potential and plateaued out yet neither of them are currently in the top couple of keepers in the League

+1

I do this on FIFA 15 all the time. Saves me heeeaappss

[borat]

read the media yeet?

Yup too little too late. Gutted.

SFC will announce the signing tomorrow

[Jeterpool]

That's just bordering on ****ing stupid that.

Leaving the whole Birraz V BK who is the better keeper aside cause it is a separate issue I find it ****ing astoundingly short sighted and stupid to be signing our No 1 and No 2 Keepers in Birraz and BK (order them how you see fit) to deals where the pair of them are defo on 6 figure plus contracts.

Every ****ing week we are having a hefty piece of our salary cap training every day to sit on the ****ing bench game day. Considering how the FFA allow immediate transfers in of a keeper any time of the year it would make sense we sign the best keeper we can get whether that is BK Birraz or another bloke and then assign the No2 to the Yoof Keeper and pay him 55k a year or whatever the minimum is to sit on the bench.

If your first choice goes down injured/suspended then you either soldier on with the Yoof bloke or you bring bloke in on an injury waiver like we did the other year with Nashy when Brockie smashed Birrazs face up.

Only in Newy would we waste such a large part of the salary cap on a reserve keeper. Money that could be better spent elsewhere on our shit house side.

Considering also that Birraz is under contract already I find the decision to extend BK's for 2 years ****ing absurd and incredibly short sighted when a case could be argued that we are not certain to return to lofty heights in the HAL with either of these blokes in goal.

We have basically signed two Keepers up one who has talent but has some issues that need resolving ASAP and another one who has probably reached his potential and plateaued out yet neither of them are currently in the top couple of keepers in the League

Don't worry member. Birraz will also be gone soon. Problem solved.

[pv4]

55k a year or whatever the minimum is to sit on the bench.

50k is the minumum wage. It was 48k before the recent CBA was agreed.

[GazFish35]

You make some decent points mfks, there's way to exploit the injury replacement rule.

Massive assumption that bk is on 6 figures though.

[pv4]

Massive assumption that bk is on 6 figures though.

Is it such a massive assumption?

Minimum wage in the HAL has been roughly 40-50k since inception. The dude has been here 9 years. Marko Jesic was on 140k with us.

I don't see it being that unrealistic tbh.

[GazFish35]

Jesic is hardly a current example.

[pv4]

Jesic is hardly a current example.

Which is even further potential evidence that BK would have been upgraded wage since then.

Wage increaese are common in the world with inflation and all that stuff. I assume most or all players would have also received an initial boost in salary when Tinkler first arrived. And players talk - if one player is on one thing, they compare it to themselves and want that too. That's how we lost Brockie. And particularly after the TV deal came in to cover the salary cap, there seems no reason why players would have to take a pay cut unless to fit other players in the cap (which we seemingly, judging by our squad over the last 6 years, should never have had to worry about).

IMO 100k is a very reasonable assumption of BK's wage.

[GazFish35]

But not so much when you have a salary cap and a player probably not fielding offers form other clubs, and happy to stay.

The points made also assume all other clubs are paying unders for their 2nd keeper

[pv4]

But not so much when you have a salary cap and a player probably not fielding offers form other clubs, and happy to stay.

The points made also assume all other clubs are paying unders for their 2nd keeper

But like I said, we've probably never used the salary cap. And since the TV deal has come in, there is no advantage or disadvantage not to use the full cap because it is fully funded by the FFA. So it would have been a good chance to reward your long-term players with a better contract.

Something we must remember is BK has been our number 1 keeper several times in our history. Like the 2011/12 season (which, coincidentally, was his 5 year anniversary - perhaps a milestone worthy of a pay-rise) - he was wearing the number 1 shirt, and his competition was Matt Nash.

I'm not sure I understand your point about all other clubs paying unders. I didn't reference (or intend to reference) any other club in my points raised, and I don't think I'm following where you've headed there.

[GazFish35]

There is disadvantage in using the full cap. It drives up wage demands in future negotiations.

My "other clubs" reference was back to the point MFKS was making about paying two keepers 6figures each. Others might be doing it too negating the point that we are loosing an advantage by not doing it.

[Raw Boned Youngster]

The bigger picture and the reality of the situation is, quality players have left or are about to and our only signing is Mad Dog Kennedy. Further to that, Tinks is backing Stubbins because he thinks he is a decent bloke. You couldn't invent a bigger misguided shambles than what is happening at this club.

[pv4]

There is disadvantage in using the full cap. It drives up wage demands in future negotiations.

IMO the increased wage demands is a result of the nature of the league, rather than the amount of cap each team uses.

A full cap would mean a club says "we can't give you anymore, either be happy or find a new club" whereas a non-full cap means players know they can technically afford the extra 10-20-whatever thousand onto their contracts. So if anything, a player within the setup would feel better about negotiating a bigger contract if the cap wasn't full - I think.

[De-Champ]

IMO the increased wage demands is a result of the nature of the league, rather than the amount of cap each team uses.

A full cap would mean a club says "we can't give you anymore, either be happy or find a new club" whereas a non-full cap means players know they can technically afford the extra 10-20-whatever thousand onto their contracts. So if anything, a player within the setup would feel better about negotiating a bigger contract if the cap wasn't full - I think.

Would he not just negotiate with another club that offers more... I might agree with your assumption where (all the the offers) is marginally better ie the 10k -20k that you talk about. But what happens when another club offers way way more??

[pv4]

Would he not just negotiate with another club that offers more... I might agree with your assumption where (all the the offers) is marginally better ie the 10k -20k that you talk about. But what happens when another club offers way way more??

When another club offers way way more, that's when his loyalty is tested but also when he weighs up price-matching with the club (in a sense, holding them to ransom). Some players are happy to find greener pastures, others not. Maybe they don't want to move district, or don't want to play under another coach, or whatever .

Rubez was offered far more money at WSW but weighed up that he would stay for a slight pay increase, plus the captaincy, at the Jerks. That's why GVE let Jobe go - because he saw retaining Rubez as more important.

NTS was offered way more money by Sydney FC when he was here, and spoke to the club and they made the judgement call to put him on 250k. The problem we had there though, was Ljubo had left by then so NTS was beyond aids for us after that.

[Grimario]

Maybe they don't want to move district, or don't want to play under another coach, or whatever .

We need Con back to sell Newcastle for its lifestyle. Comparable housing on beachside property for a fraction of the price you would get anywhere (except in a caravan park down in gypoville). Saving money on housing and getting a lower salary than elsewhere should be an easy sell for the right negotiator when you talk about disposable income at the end of the day.

[pv4]

We need Con back to sell Newcastle for its lifestyle. Comparable housing on beachside property for a fraction of the price you would get anywhere (except in a caravan park down in gypoville). Saving money on housing and getting a lower salary than elsewhere should be an easy sell for the right negotiator when you talk about disposable income at the end of the day.

You're not wrong, Pissant Gypo.

But they did try selling the lifestyle to Johnny Steele and he hated it within a fortnight of touching down :rof:

A lot of foreign players are attracted to Melbourne and Sydney because of the big city, kulcha, etc - it's hard to convince them to come check out the giant penis at queens wharf

[Grimario]

You're not wrong, Pissant Gypo.

But they did try selling the lifestyle to Johnny Steele and he hated it within a fortnight of touching down :rof:

A lot of foreign players are attracted to Melbourne and Sydney because of the big city, kulcha, etc - it's hard to convince them to come check out the giant penis at queens wharf

I know I'm not wrong, Actual Gypo.

I think Steele would still be a Newy lad if Fanny's was its old self.

[GazFish35]

The A-league is a development league, a stepping stone to bigger things, or a step back when you're in your twilight.
Either way we need a coach that players feel like they are getting something from.

We regularly compare the decisions footballers make with "real jobs" and I've no doubt I've had bosses I'd work for on less money than some others who I'd not work for even if paid twice as much.

Get a coach who players want to play for and you can then start attracting players.

Look at Arnold, he helped develop a fair few CCM players into European contracted players, if I was hoole, I'd go to. Stubbins who doesn't know what he's doing, or Arnold who could possibly help you get to Europe? Hmmmmm


Spend some money on the roles within the club that fall outside the cap and it makes it easier to get quality players fit under it.... And that money spent also helps improve and develop the squad while they are here giving you even better value.

[Jeterpool]

The A-league is a development league, a stepping stone to bigger things, or a step back when you're in your twilight.
Either way we need a coach that players feel like they are getting something from.

We regularly coarse the decisions footballer make with "real jobs" and I've no doubt I've had bosses I'd work for on less money than some others who I'd not work for even if paid twice as much.

Get a coach who players want to play for and you can then start attracting players.

Look at Arnold, he helped develop a fair few CCM players into European contracted players, if I was hoole, I'd go to. Stubbins who doesn't know what he's doing, or Arnold who could possibly help you get to Europe? Hmmmmm


Spend some money on the roles within the club that fall outside the cap and it makes it easier to get quality players fit under it.... And that money spent also helps improve and develop the squad while they are here giving you even better value.

You're too sensible for this place.

[Grimario]

https://auctiondesq.imgstg.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category&CategoryID=5066&OrgID=24793

Only a few hours, guys!

Predictably, Griff and Taggart are the only ones selling with Reserve met. Not a single bid for Pepper, Kew, Kanta, Gallaway or Regan and the rest are below reserve.

[Grimario]

The A-league is a development league, a stepping stone to bigger things, or a step back when you're in your twilight.
Either way we need a coach that players feel like they are getting something from.

I wish someone would just go "holy shit, we ARE a selling/development league. Maybe we can be profitable focusing on youth" and do exactly that. GvE ALMOST had the right idea with a bunch of the people he signed but then the wheels fell off and he clearly didn't have the ability to take them all from promising prospects to saleable assets.

[Pico]

I wish someone would just go "holy shit, we ARE a selling/development league. Maybe we can be profitable focusing on youth" and do exactly that. GvE ALMOST had the right idea with a bunch of the people he signed but then the wheels fell off and he clearly didn't have the ability to take them all from promising prospects to saleable assets.

this this this this this!

It works for clubs all around the world but I still feel like we haven't really seen an HAL club take that approach, the closest would have to be CCM but they appear to have lost their way, in part i think due to Moss getting the top gig.

[MFKS]

You make some decent points mfks, there's way to exploit the injury replacement rule.

Massive assumption that bk is on 6 figures though.

Credit from the great Mr Fish :brrr:

That makes my day


Assumption that BK is on 6 figures of course but he has had quite a few spells as No1 Keeper at the club and one would assume his agent has cashed in on this at some stage to get BK a good deal. Even when he has slipped down the pecking order behind Birraz Covic over the last decade you would assume his agent would be competent enough to not see his client lose out financially to stay with the club.

I don't recall any serious interest in him to go elsewhere and all his deals signed seemed to have been pretty straight forward.


If he ain't on 6 figures his agent needs shooting

[plague]

I don't recall any serious interest in him to go elsewhere and all his deals signed seemed to have been pretty straight forward.


If he ain't on 6 figures his agent needs shooting

Maybe, just maybe, BK and his agent have a relationship with the club where he is offered a deal, thinks it's cool and accepts it.

Maybe there's no 'other clubs are keen' agent talk that is all too familiar these days.

Maybe also when he does lose his spot he just goes to work and busts his ass to get back into the 1st team rather than whining to mates in the media (YES IM TALKING ABOUT RYAN GRIFFITHS)

Maybe the bloke is just happy with his life.
Not every player has to be hell bent on world domination and screwing people and clubs over to get where they want to be.

Maybe he's just a good bloke who loves the Jets and appreciates what he's got.

[MFKS]

Maybe, just maybe, BK and his agent have a relationship with the club where he is offered a deal, thinks it's cool and accepts it.

Maybe there's no 'other clubs are keen' agent talk that is all too familiar these days.

Maybe also when he does lose his spot he just goes to work and busts his ass to get back into the 1st team rather than whining to mates in the media (YES IM TALKING ABOUT RYAN GRIFFITHS)

Maybe the bloke is just happy with his life.
Not every player has to be hell bent on world domination and screwing people and clubs over to get where they want to be.

Maybe he's just a good bloke who loves the Jets and appreciates what he's got.

So your saying the Jets should take advantage of his loyalty and offer him a pie and a can of coke per game and he will be in on that to save funds??

BK Noble bloke and all

[MFKS]

The latest financial returns recently lodged in the United Kingdom by English Premier League giant Manchester City has shed some light on its financial relationship with A-League club Melbourne City.

Manchester City moved to buy 80 per cent of the then Melbourne Heart in January last year, the remainder held by the owners of NRL club Melbourne Storm.

The City Football Club report for 2013-14, lodged with Companies House in late December, showed Manchester City had paid £5.303 million ($9.75 million) cash for its 80 per cent share, confirming the mooted overall sale price of $12.5 million at the time of the deal.
City Football Club said it had provided £246,000 in services to Melbourne Heart in 2013-14, which would have covered about four months of the 2013-14 A-League season it owned the club, and lent the Melbourne side £1.598 million.

The Melbourne side contributed £2.183 million in revenue and £1.118 million in losses to Manchester City’s overall £347 million revenue and £63.4 million loss in 2013-14. The Heart were rebranded Melbourne City before the start of the current A-League season. Manchester also own New York City and are understood to be planning a football academy at Melbourne’s La Trobe University.


Can see why now Tinks is standing his ground on what price he sees as fair

[GazFish35]

Can see why now Tinks is standing his ground on what price he sees as fair

from 1500 to 10000 members since he forked out for it too.

Though getting someone else with city's cash to come along.
He of all people should know an asset is only worth what someone will pay.

[plague]

So your saying the Jets should take advantage of his loyalty and offer him a pie and a can of coke per game and he will be in on that to save funds??

BK Noble bloke and all

No.
That would be in contradictory to my entire point.
I'm sooo buying you a Kindle for Christmas so you can learn how to read posts.
What colour do you like?

[MFKS]

No.
That would be in contradictory to my entire point.
I'm sooo buying you a Kindle for Christmas so you can learn how to read posts.
What colour do you like?

Maybe I read your post right the first time and only typed what I did in the hope to get the desired response of your wit intelligence and insight that was forth coming??? :rof:

[plague]

Maybe I read your post right the first time and only typed what I did in the hope to get the desired response of your wit intelligence and insight that was forth coming??? :rof:

Nah, coz last Christmas Santa got me a machine that detects when you're trolling and when you're just dead wrong.
100% success so far.

[MFKS]

Nah, coz last Christmas Santa got me a machine that detects when you're trolling and when you're just dead wrong.
100% success so far.

Might need to send it back for an exchange cause it sounds like it is faulty

[lquiquer]

3 games on tonight.... #JAPvJOR #IRKvPAL #MFKvPLA

[baldrick]

#MFKvPLA


Most entertaining of them too..

[hawk]

I wish someone would just go "holy shit, we ARE a selling/development league. Maybe we can be profitable focusing on youth" and do exactly that. GvE ALMOST had the right idea with a bunch of the people he signed but then the wheels fell off and he clearly didn't have the ability to take them all from promising prospects to saleable assets.

we over did it on youth and will never work.

as we know its a transition league so we need some maturity, good marqee, couple youth, the rest middling

[plague]

3 games on tonight.... #JAPvJOR #IRKvPAL #MFKvPLA

Nah nah, we cool.
Member knows I'm only here to pull him back into line when he gets a bit silly.
He's been known to overdo it sometimes.

[Captain Obvious]

He's been known to overdo it sometimes.

Don't drag me into your silly back and forth.

[MFKS]

JETS coach Phil Stubbins hopes to bolster his squad with as many as four new recruits before the January transfer window closes in 12 days.


Newcastle’s roster has been depleted by the departures of Jonny Steele (Minnesota United), Marcos Flores (Jacksonville Armada) and Sam Gallaway (Western Sydney Wanderers), as well as the broken ankle that could sideline James Virgili until the end of the season.

The Jets have until midnight on February 2 to sign contracted players from rival clubs, after which their only option will be to approach free agents.

Stubbins said he had been in daily discussions with Jets owner Nathan Tinkler about incoming personnel and was optimistic that ‘‘probably by the end of the week’’ Newcastle could announce some additions.

‘‘I don’t want to speculate and pre-empt anything, but we’re actively trying to bring some players in,’’ Stubbins told the Herald on Tuesday.

‘‘Whether all of those spots become filled, well, we’ve got a salary cap that we adhere to.

Hopefully it’s the four players, but, if not, the three, and if not, the two. We’ll do everything we can to put ourselves in a position where we’ve got a pretty full roster.’’

Stubbins would not discuss individuals but said any new signings would need to be ready to play almost as soon as they arrived in Newcastle.

‘‘They’ll be close to selection,’’ he said. ‘‘We want somebody who’s going to have an immediate impact. That’s what we’re hoping to do.

‘‘The saving grace is that after we play Adelaide away from home this weekend ... we have a break for two weeks before the next game [against Brisbane on February 6], and I think that’s a golden opportunity for us to hopefully introduce any players that we sign.’’

Stubbins said the Jets would not be in the market for a marquee player.

Asked if Newcastle may struggle to recruit players, given the club has endured a tumultuous season and are eight points adrift of the top six, Stubbins replied: ‘‘The Jets have not played in finals football for quite some time, and that will bring whatever perception that brings. But, for me, I won’t get away from the vision of the club being a massive part of the A-League and becoming a massive club itself.

‘‘We’ve got 10,000 members signed up, and although we haven’t had the results in the first half of the campaign, we’re looking at moving forward and doing everything we can in terms of strategy to grow stronger. Obviously that’s going to take a little bit of time, but I still believe strongly that we’ll get there.’’

Stubbins said he expected to sit down for a meeting with Tinkler next week, although he declined to reveal where the controversial tycoon, last reported to be living in Singapore, was based.

‘‘We’ve identified areas where we can strengthen the team and the club and we’ve entered into the process of trying to make that happen.’’

Newcastle were rocked on Monday by news that Young Socceroo Andrew Hoole would be leaving his home-town club at season’s end.

He is expected to sign with Sydney, despite considering an offer to re-sign with the Jets.

‘‘He’s decided to explore pastures new, and that’s the decision that he’s made,’’ Stubbins said. ‘‘I think everyone connected to the club would be disappointed in Andrew choosing a different pathway, away from the club.

‘‘But in terms of his reasons, that’s not for me to answer. It’s something for the player and his agent to answer.’’


Rather Contradictory

Stubbins staring to sound like Maxwell Smart


Stubbins >> "Would You believe that as we speak this building is being surrounded by the entire 5th division of the elite US Marine Corp Special Ops ??"

Kaos Bad Guy >> "No"

Stubbins >> "Would you believe then this building is being surrounded by 8 Local Police Squad Cars??"

Kaos Bad Guy >> "No"

Stubbins >> "How about 2 girl guides and a blind dog??"

FMD

[pv4]

Hopefully it’s the four players, but, if not, the three, and if not, the two.

:rof:

[Jeterpool]

Nick Ward, Adam D'Apuzzo, Joey Gibbs.

[pv4]

Daniel Mullen, Cassio, Jobe Wheelhouse ( :wub: ), Vitor Saba.

[Blackmac79]

You know what wouldn't be out of place, a few comments like the following from York City Manger post game after losing 2-0 (yes just 2-0) at home to stevenhenge in the conference:



“Not good enough, that’s the bottom line really. I feel for the supporters. The last two home performances have been outstanding, but today we just didn’t perform. The lack of quality today was eye-catching – we just looked lost and it was a really bad day”

For ****s sake I would kill for someone in the club to come out and say something like that. If I hear one more "were progressing well", "when the new players come (Like we are going to be able to replace flores and hoole this time of year, probably get another fuching welsh ffs)", "we've been working on our corners at training so it was pleasing to see we got a few today"

Farking hell.

[pv4]

Griff said those kind of things earlier in the season, from memory.

Stubbins has three tricks up his sleeve for post-game interviews:
1) I have to question the players mental capacity
2) A step in the right direction
3) Let Zane take the interview (like he gets him to do for half-time talks) or let Bridges talk about his stopwatch

[Blackmac79]

Griff said those kind of things earlier in the season, from memory.

Stubbins has three tricks up his sleeve for post-game interviews:
1) I have to question the players mental capacity
2) A step in the right direction
3) Let Zane take the interview (like he gets him to do for half-time talks) or let Bridges talk about his stopwatch

Griff
^
Everybody else in football
^
50 feet of shit
^
Our club.

[redwah]

Nah nah, we cool.
Member knows I'm only here to pull him back into line when he gets a bit silly.
He's been known to overdo it sometimes.

Toughest job in sports

[hawk]

from York City Manger post game after losing 2-0 (yes just 2-0) at home to stevenhenge in the conference:

“Not good enough, that’s the bottom line really. I feel for the supporters. The last two home performances have been outstanding, but today we just didn’t perform. The lack of quality today was eye-catching – we just looked lost and it was a really bad day”
For ****s sake I would kill for someone in the club to come out and say something like that. If I hear one more "were progressing well", "when the new players come (Like we are going to be able to replace flores and hoole this time of year, probably get another fuching welsh ffs)", "we've been working on our corners at training so it was pleasing to see we got a few today"

would be nice to get the poor truth.

[lquiquer]

Arny not happy about that one..!!!! :roflz: 958

[belchardo]

lol. I like that one.

[Grimario]

Print off some Arnie cash to throw at him as well!

http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/download-novelty-arnie-cash/r5pdp1wb6zi6zkz5kqehj7mm

[WolfMan]

Brilliant

[Blackmac79]

Are they condoning throwing money at people?

Didn't seem to like it when we did it....

[q-money]

lel

how's the chips on these blokes shoulders ay

[MFKS]

lel

how's the chips on these blokes shoulders ay

It's not like he walked out on them for Smurfs anyway

He left to try his hand overseas in Japan with the Gypos best wishes.

He failed and was looking for a gig. Clubs came calling in Australia and he picked Smurfs.

The Gypos didn't even make him an offer



Exactly what is there for them to be cut at???

[redwah]

It's not like he walked out on them for Smurfs anyway

He left to try his hand overseas in Japan with the Gypos best wishes.

He failed and was looking for a gig. Clubs came calling in Australia and he picked Smurfs.

The Gypos didn't even make him an offer



Exactly what is there for them to be cut at???

They have to be bitter about something, helps there inferiority complex.....though living on the coast should be enough to be bitter about.

[Premy]

6 Days 9 games of Football Brilliant.

Thurs- 6:30pm Korea V Uzbekistan/ 9:30pm China V Australia
Fri- 5:30pm Iran V Iraq/ Japan V UAE
Saturday- 5pm Adelaide V Newcastle/ 7:30pm Central Coast V Sydney
Sunday- 8pm Perth V Melbourne Victory
Monday- 8pm Asian Cup SF1
Tuesday- 8pm Asian Cup SF2

[Tommyjet]

It's not like he walked out on them for Smurfs anyway

He left to try his hand overseas in Japan with the Gypos best wishes.

He failed and was looking for a gig. Clubs came calling in Australia and he picked Smurfs.

The Gypos didn't even make him an offer



Exactly what is there for them to be cut at???

The mariners current media manager about to become ours.

[Bon]

John Davidson pointing out some of the rumours and contradictions going on with the club..

http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/01/22/whats-fact-whats-fiction-newcastle-jets-crisis/

[MFKS]

Precisely right about the FFA.

They sit around with their heads up their ****ing arses whilst our club is burned to the ground and needless damage is being done to the codes profile in the area.

They caused this mess by getting Tinkler in and they are showing no leadership and no duty of care to the region or us long suffering fools.

**** them.

[hawk]

Troy Palmer and Newcastle Jets part ways

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2835125/palmer-and-jets-part-ways/?cs=306

deserves to be on the dole kew

[MFKS]

The Socceroos will train in Cooks Hill on Friday evening after locking in their blockbuster semi-final appearance in Newcastle.

The must-win Tuesday night clash is already billed as the Hunter's biggest ever football match.

The fixture was locked in after two Tim Cahill goals carried the host nation past China in Brisbane on Thursday night.

The effect of that win was felt immediately in the Hunter on Friday morning, with Newcastle Airport confirming airlines would add an extra 500 seats into the region on game day.

Virgin Australia and QantasLink will run extra flights to accommodate an expected influx of football fans, with Virgin offering a 9am Melbourne to Newcastle flightwhile QantasLink will operate a midday service from Brisbane.

Virgin Australia will also upgrade to larger aircraft on some pre-existing flights.



I assume No2 Sports Ground ???
Wouldn't mind knowing when and whether it will be open access or if you can just stand outside the ground yelling abuse to Alex Wilkinson etc???


Also find it bizarre that extra flights are being put on at late notice. If there are no tickets available what ****ing good are extra seats on planes gonna be???

[lquiquer]

Also find it bizarre that extra flights are being put on at late notice. If there are no tickets available what ****ing good are extra seats on planes gonna be???

2 active bays not sold yet (They don't sale till we know both team qualified). Prob go on sale tomorrow?

[Jetmaster]

Tip - pray that UAE wins, then go for active UAE tix when they go on sale....better chance of at least getting in, then go sit on the hill.

[MFKS]

Tip - pray that UAE wins, then go for active UAE tix when they go on sale....better chance of at least getting in, then go sit on the hill.

?? Wouldn't think that is relevant much anyway

Anyone here not actually have tix already???


I would have thought most of us on here are that devoted to the game they would have had their tickets for this game weeks ago

[lquiquer]

I assume No2 Sports Ground ???
Wouldn't mind knowing when and whether it will be open access or if you can just stand outside the ground yelling abuse to Alex Wilkinson etc???


As per @Socceroos on twitter : Due to the short turnaround between games there are no further open training sessions scheduled.............

Guess if you loud enough you can still abuse Wilkinson through the fence!!!! Who's got the Mega? :soapbox:

[WolfMan]

?? Wouldn't think that is relevant much anyway

Anyone here not actually have tix already???


I would have thought most of us on here are that devoted to the game they would have had their tickets for this game months ago

FTFY. So much whinging on Herald Facebook page RE: the hills not being ticketed.

[Skirt Boy]

?? Wouldn't think that is relevant much anyway

Anyone here not actually have tix already???


I would have thought most of us on here are that devoted to the game they would have had their tickets for this game weeks ago


Club > Country

[Jetmaster]

?? Wouldn't think that is relevant much anyway

Anyone here not actually have tix already???


I would have thought most of us on here are that devoted to the game they would have had their tickets for this game weeks ago

Stop being a miserable old goat - I bought my tix months ago.

Just came up with that idea incase there were some desperates who may have friends looking for tix.

[Grimario]

http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4021/a-league/2015/01/25/8125782/stubbins-reeling-from-humiliating-loss


The coach was unable to explain his team's nightmare defeat at Coopers Stadium and is struggling to know what to do next as they seek to respond

Losing 7-0 to Adelaide United has left Newcastle coach Phil Stubbins with a lot of work to do, and he admitted he was starting to question how the Jets go forward.

The boss looked drained as he faced the media after the game, and a little shell-shocked, as were his players.

"We spoke before the game about a good aggressive start, but it was Adelaide who scored first and set the pattern," Stubbins said.

"Credit Adelaide, they were a wonderful product today, we got smashed from the start to the finish. It could have been worse.

"We had a couple of chances but nothing that remotely were positives from the game, we were clearly second best from start to finish.

"My mind's full with a lot of things swirling around, it's not a nice feeling, but it's just what it is."

Stubbins seemed stunned with the performance and recognised the Jets need to improve in a lot of areas after this game.

He had never been on the end of a 7-0 drubbing, which, even after the game, he was struggling to come to terms with.

"Only four weeks ago we beat them (Adelaide 2-1)," Stubbins added.

"We weren't ourselves tonight. We lacked leadership, and any genuine desire. We need to improve, a lot of things.

"I won't pick on individuals, it was a collective thing. It certainly wasn't a happy camp after the game."

Although Stubbins admits it is worrying the way his charges lost the game, he is confident they can turn it around.

"There are certainly questions to be asked and we'll have to have some discussions about how we are going to take the club forward," he said.

"The level of Adelaide tonight, they were just at a different level, there is no getting away from that.

"If we want to be a genuine threat, we have to improve in a lot of areas. Also we need an injection of players.

"With some of our errors, we weren't up to the level of the A League."

While Stubbins struggled to come to terms with the Jets performance, he was full of praise for Adelaide.

"If Adelaide don't get close to winning it this season, they will be disappointed," he said.

Newcastle have a fortnight to lick their wounds and get back on the horse, with a home game against Brisbane Roar at Hunter Stadium on February 6.

[Pico]

This bloke just keeps sounding more and more deluded.

First his stupid claims of we haven't conceded or lost in 2015, like **** me that's a foz piss-take and this bloke runs it out in the media before a game against one of the better attacking teams in the comp. Now he's rolling out the we beat adelaide four weeks ago line, **** me you stupid ****, they had what 3 games in a week, a short turn around and had just won the FFA cup mid week, had to travel to our home ground and yet we were still barely lucky enough to get a win.

This bloke doesn't need to resign, he needs to be committed for his own mental health.

[380]

" Questions to be asked ".

Blokes only answer to the constant crap

[redwah]

Only question should be "why is he still at the club?"

[belchardo]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/01/23/coal-gold-story-adamstown-rosebud/

something brighter than the normal shit we have to put up with.

[De-Champ]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/01/23/coal-gold-story-adamstown-rosebud/

something brighter than the normal shit we have to put up with.

Just as a side note the article says Adamstown is the oldest club after minmi, I think (not sure) Wallsend may be older than Rosebuds

[Blackmac79]

Just as a side note the article says Adamstown is the oldest club after minmi, I think (not sure) Wallsend may be older than Rosebuds

Bombee or something down in wollongong is older too.

[hawk]

Bombee or something down in wollongong is older too.

1st game here was minmi v lambton select at the rotunda

[hawk]

Fears of player walkout. prime

Reckon thats been on the cards for months

[MFKS]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2512434/fighter-jets-stubbins-players-clash/?cs=306

What price Griffo was the bloke who told Stubbins he was ****ing shit and had NFI

:wub: Griffo

[Jeterpool]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2512434/fighter-jets-stubbins-players-clash/?cs=306

What price Griffo was the bloke who told Stubbins he was ****ing shit and had NFI

:wub: Griffo

Him or Zenon, from what I've heard about him. Even Madaschi after his storm down the tunnel in Adelaide

[Jeterpool]

Also it was interesting to note Rickie Herbert has expressed an interest in the Jets job.

[lquiquer]

@Gatty54: Hearing could be interesting developments at the Jets this morning. If true things going from bad to worse

[Jeterpool]

@Gatty54: Hearing could be interesting developments at the Jets this morning. If true things going from bad to worse

Can you hit him up for any more information?

[lquiquer]

He won't say

[snake]

fold

[la bazzle]

Gallaway deal didn't go through....

[lquiquer]

In other Australian football news: Saba gone

[Thomas477]

Stubbins gone? For a Coastie supporter that would be bad, would be great for Jets supporters.

[Beeen]

Edson told Stubbins to 'Vete a la chingada'. This is the little Spanish Phil understands.

[westjet]

Can you hit him up for any more information?


Newcastle Jets: Players ‘set to hold private meeting’

STRUGGLING A-League club Newcastle Jets are in more turmoil with players at the club believed set to hold a private meeting today.

The Australian understands a number of players have lost patience with coach Phil Stubbins and are prepared to take their issues to the club.

It comes in the wake of the embarrassing 7-0 loss to Adelaide United on Friday night.

The Jets have had a horrific season on and off the field.

They are second from the bottom of the table with just one win in 15 games and have little hope of making the finals even though there are still 12 rounds left.

Stubbins, an A-League coach in waiting for a number of seasons, finally got his chance when appointed to the Jets role at the start ofthe season. But it has been a tough initiation for him.

The team’s poor form and the fact that the club has released a number of players mid-season has turned the pressure back on him.

It has been just as disastrous off the field with chairman Ray Baartz and CEO Robbie Middleby resigning recently.

All this has been played out amid a backdrop of concern over the ownership of the club.

The Jets are owned by the controversial Nathan Tinkler, who admitted last year that he could not wait to get rid of the club.

However, he did a backflip recently, saying he didn’t want to sell the club and that he is determined to get it out of the doldrums.

Scottish club Dundee United are believed to be interested in buying the club, but not for the believed asking price of $5million.]

http://m.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/newcastle-jets-players-set-to-hold-private-meeting/story-fn63e0vj-1227197807356

[hawk]

http://i.imgur.com/TSnfPrs.jpg.

training has gone behind closed doors. why? weather? player punchons? stubbins scared of being judged? or did someone pick up on a protest.

Carn guys theres nothin you need to hide from us. youve heard it all before & weve seen it. open the doors ya cowards

[Pico]

http://m.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/under-fire-newcastle-jets-coach-phil-stubbins-turns-heat-back-on-players/story-e6frf4ic-1227198027953

Some solid stubbins quotes in this one!


"“There are certain players here on decent coin, who I won’t name, who are giving no value for money to this club."

[weston]

There's also a coach on coin that is offering nothing to the club.

[R Ramjet]

http://m.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/under-fire-newcastle-jets-coach-phil-stubbins-turns-heat-back-on-players/story-e6frf4ic-1227198027953

Some solid stubbins quotes in this one!

He actually made some good points about the players. If they are giving up on the field to get back at the coach how is that fair to us fans and members who are continually told to stick by the club. Stubbins time is up or things are going to get ugly during games. I think some of the players attitudes is piss poor too tho

[q-money]

Do we actually have any senior players left?

[Wilso8948]

**** the players
**** the coach
**** the owner
Piss em all off go back to gold and start again.
They all come and go. Fans are forever

[MFKS]

:lol:http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/01/27/angered-tinkler-sticks-stubbins-jets-players-prepare-go-strike

Seems like our boys are going on strike

Tinks has backed Stubbins

Do love the quote you think watching these blokes is bad imagine paying them :lol:

[furns]

Posted on squadron FB page

More Jets news coming out during Socceroos AC games

This could all be coming to a head soon, as far as we understand it from the various reports:
Tinkler has until 31st January to clear all outstanding debts against the club (including bill owed to NNSWFF) otherwise FFA assume control of the licence.
Stubbins has lost control of the players who will turn up for training tomorrow but refuse to take part.
Tinkler is backing the coach over the players.
Stubbins had a falling out with a senior player at halftime of the game against Adelaide, and again at the hotel after the game.
The mid-season review is soon to be completed and released.
What is unclear is what is happening with the Dundee bid - reports from various media days that SOMEONE is negotiating with them but whether that is "HSG" or FFA is anyone guess.

There is an endgame approaching - we just hope all this backroom crap gets sorted asap so we can get back to bloody football.

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/01/27/angered-tinkler-sticks-stubbins-jets-players-prepare-go-strike

[Jeterpool]

Herald reporting player and staff superannuation not been paid in addition to creditors.

Zane and Young may lose jobs as they have players support but trying to keep clear.

This is getting very messy and needs to be sorted ASAP. My money is on Tinkler paying the bill - he always seems to scrounge it from somewhere. I also foresee a Gold Coast type situation where the players go on strike so Stubbins fields a youth team.

Meanwhile we fans, th only constant in this whole thing, are watching our club and its image get dragged through the mud.

[Jeterpool]

Apparently I'm on the cover of the herald tomorrow.....hmmmm

[hawk]

● the players met privately at Ray Watt Oval at 7.30am;

● Stubbins addressed the squad at a training session at 9am at Merewether beach where the squad told him they no longer supported him.

● Stubbins left midway through the session and flew to Brisbane, where Tinkler has his Australian base; and

● The squad met with the Professional Footballers Australia union to express their concerns over the direction of the club and unpaid superannuation entitlements

stubbs flew to daddy and said they nasty

[MFKS]

I am just seeing Tinkler play his Clive Palmer game still.

Seriously the bloke can not be believed by backing Stubbins. You lose anywhere else in the world 7-0 and the coach is sacked. It also ain't like that performance was not out of left field either from what we have seen this season or had mitigating factors like a red hot opponent or send offs as an excuse.

Not sacking Stubbins and backing the bloke added to the rest of his promises that have not materialised show he is playing everyone for fools

[plague]

Tinks didn't get beat 7-0 last week.

[Thomas477]

stubbs flew to daddy and said they nasty

:lulz:

[GazFish35]

Wasn't middleby the problem?

[BodyNovo]

I wouldn't be suprised if we see something happen today.

Tinks has proven in the past that he acts swiftly I.e Culina Fiasco

[hausmann]

Wasn't middleby the problem?

He was A problem.

Tinkler now digging a major hole for himself. This can't end well for him.