Daily Australian News Thread

[anfield]

The gulf has changed things, but that may only be a short term thing like China was. The money isn?t in China the same way it was 15 years ago. Their economy is in much worse shape. Japan and the MLS are competitors, but they were also there 10 years.

Some of the foreigners at the moment are very good, but they don?t have the same crowd pulling power that those 3 did back in the day. Just a quick look at transfermarket shows players like De Gea, Mata, Lingard (I?m a Man U fan :shrug: ), Sakho, Douglas Costa, Chicharito, Carlos Vela are all free agents. I know it wouldn?t be easy, but it?s the only short term solution to crowd numbers I can see. I don?t know what else the APL can do except charge Townsend with malicious mismanagement, but that ain?t happening.

Some interesting points, I agree we need someone next level to add interest. Please no ex Man United players, apart from being a Liverpool fan the club is a shadow off the one of the one in Ferguson's time. The players coming out of United aren't of the calibre required apart from Mata. I think he would be a good signing, he is quality.

I really think Germain is top quality and his talent is underestimated. It's a shame he is at Macarthur, he needed to be at one of the big clubs.

Channel 9 and channel 7 are also giving the A League no airtime on the news. They haven't done it for years. It's funny how channel 7 jumped on the Matildas bandwagon during the World cup, but aren't interested in football at any other time.

The Big Bash is major competition. But that league is facing similar challenges to tge A League. The leagues in UAE and South Africa have blown the league the big Bash out of the water and are taking all the better players.

[Jim]

This is something I have been thinking about - what happened to the thrill of the matchday - the passion and spontaneity are missing at the moment. And alot of the whole experience has become sanitised, especially the TV coverage.

As for matchday, you can see what they are trying to do, but instead of supplementing the good things (especially active support), they appear to be trying to create a "sports entertainment" package. The whole experience is "sanitised". The active group trying valiantly are never mentioned at the ground, we get kickoff countdowns and choreographed chanting which I abhor. Remember the "stand up in the 87th minute if you love the Jets"? And the daft idea that never eventuated of playing chants and music during goal kicks as they were "quiet periods".

I get it that we are in changing times, and sport is now business, but alot of the emotion is gone - add in overbearing security, mid strength alcohol and bloody VAR/refereeing which has noticeably killed off celebrating a goal (not all APL fault of course). This is happening overseas as well but the football "culture" is much stronger there, and there is sensible balance.

30 deg + is enough for no shows now. Slows the play, gives cancer to the crowd. A fat kent, 80% of newy & myself included, cant enjoy the footy now.
Add the VAR with the easily influenced spineless refs kills it more.
VAR can keep studying the footage until they find an incident which helps their favoured result.
Wonder how Paramount figures look?

[belchardo]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-27/asian-cup-australia-v-indonesia-graham-arnold-alm-season/103396332

It always annoys me when I agree with Arnold.

[Jetmaster]

VAR can of worms opened.....let the appeals begin.....

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/39394683/anderlecht-genk-match-repla

[belchardo]

Unbelievable. Let's not bother with playing the game anymore - just broadcast a single courtroom with two teams of lawyers wearing the team strips arguing about a hypothetical goal.

[belchardo]

VAR can of worms opened.....let the appeals begin.....

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/39394683/anderlecht-genk-match-repla

mind you, let's go back to 2018 grand final and get that one replayed.

[Bremsstrahlung]

mind you, let's go back to 2018 grand final and get that one replayed.

Maybe we can keep that one up our sleeve until we get a squad capable of beating Victory….

[belchardo]

Maybe we can keep that one up our sleeve until we get a squad capable of beating Victory….

Geez mate, none of us are young enough for that.

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/08/blue-cards-and-sin-bins-could-be-introduced-to-football-under-ifab-plans

I'm all for cracking down on dissent and professional fouls, but this is some dumb thinking. Just advance the free-kick 5-10m everytime the whinge or do a professional foul!

[Jetmaster]

Most people have picked up on the theory that teams will just waste time and park the bus until the 10 mins is up. All of these changes complicate things.

[Thomas477]

FIFA and IFAB will do anything but address the problem.

There are already rules to deal with dissent and “professional” fouls. Refs just need to start enforcing the laws stricter.

[Jetmaster]

Would be much easier to have a 3 metre excusion zone around the ref, straight red for any cynical foul, instant yellow for blatant time wasting, fixed.

[My2BobsWorth]

The brains trust haven't introduced a single rule that makes the game better, keep it simple, black and white. Instead of a blue card, just make a yellow card include 10 mins in the bin, but not 2 yellows equal a red

[plague]

Can't wait till they bring in a beige card for fouls that are worse than a yellow but not quite a blue. Maybe 5 mins in the bin and a lecture from a registered counsellor.

Worse thing football ever did was encourage Americans to get involved.

Stupid people.
Stupid country.

Locally they have put a massive focus on punishing any dissent from players and coaches this year. Can't wait to see all the nervous 1st year's throwing cheese to the first cranky dad coach who mouths off on the sideline.

Legit NNSW want the kids throwing reds for even the slightest inference that their integrity has been challenged.

So many lads in the local thread gonna be wearing their keyboards out having a sook every Monday morning.

Keen for all of it.

[Jetmaster]

Last 30 years (11 law changes plus tweaks to handball etc)

Previous 30 years (two changes, the card system and slight change to offside).

All since 1992 coincide with rise of TV coverage, online betting, 1994 WC and EPL. I don't know the rules anymore and the changes are accelerating.

[Bremsstrahlung]

FIFA and IFAB will do anything but address the problem.

There are already rules to deal with dissent and “professional” fouls. Refs just need to start enforcing the laws stricter.

Came to say this.
Enforce the rules that already exist. Yellows for dissent. Yellows for time wasting.

I get the dissent thing. We seem to be one of the only sports that there’s zero respect for officials.
It amazes me the respect in which NRL and Rugby and AFL address their officials (questionable off field respect though). But this ain’t the way to fix it. Stick with yellows.

I fear they are changing things too much. Trying to artificially manufacture something.
I could see the need/push for VAR - there’s so much $$$$$ in the sport these days. Stakeholders can’t have millions/billions of dollars decided by an individuals opinion. I still think there’s potential for it to work.

Meanwhile, in the a league, we still haven’t figured out how handy a goal line camera would be…
But sure, fill the ref’s pockets with another card.

[FTBLNEW]

Can't wait till they bring in a beige card for fouls that are worse than a yellow but not quite a blue. Maybe 5 mins in the bin and a lecture from a registered counsellor.

Worse thing football ever did was encourage Americans to get involved.

Stupid people.
Stupid country.

Locally they have put a massive focus on punishing any dissent from players and coaches this year. Can't wait to see all the nervous 1st year's throwing cheese to the first cranky dad coach who mouths off on the sideline.

Legit NNSW want the kids throwing reds for even the slightest inference that their integrity has been challenged.

So many lads in the local thread gonna be wearing their keyboards out having a sook every Monday morning.

Keen for all of it.

They already do it in Sydney in the youth league, it's no big deal, don't swear and abuse the ref and you won't get sent off, also there isn't any time wasting, just like getting a red the other team wants to play that advantage so you bet the game does not just stop dead.

Won't hurt them to learn some proper communication skills instead of "I'll bash ya brah".

If parents, spectators and players stopped kicking the crap out of referees (literally sometimes) and they actually punish players that are shown to behave badly on TV (Like putting their hands around another players neck), and it filtered down it wouldn't be accepted, then the younger ref's would actually know what's appropriate to enforce instead of often guessing and being pressured by the sideline to make decisions.

If we stopped coaches thinking its ok to abuse young people under 18 and actually had them removed from the game, wouldn't the world just be a better place.

The only way for it to change is to start at the top level of the game, if you are being paid $$$$ to play football then the expectation is that your behaviour should align with that responsibility. If you can't manage to do that, maybe go work a trade or something where no ones really looking at you.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I realise Plague is being hyperbolic with some aspects, but I don’t agree that referees should be totally exempt from criticism or questioning. That exacerbates the problem. But it is how you go about having that discussion. If you slam the ball down, get up swearing at the referee - dissent.


I would prefer to see a model, where the captain is allowed to engage with the referee to discuss decisions or game matters respectfully. Captains should be mature enough to have a civilised discussion.


Good referees are able to have those conversations, and are able to admit that they could be wrong, but made their decision based on what they saw and how they interpreted the situation. I’ve had many of those conversations over the years from both sides. “From my viewpoint, it looked like a foul, maybe you had a different angle and opinion on it, but I can only call what myself and my assistant see.” Is usually enough to diffuse a situation and all that should be required of the referee. Acknowledge the query, explain your decision if engaged respectfully and in my experience, both parties can move on. Agree to disagree.

Of course, we can go with the “referees shouldn’t have to explain their decision” path that many assessors and instructors taught years ago, but in my experience, it just creates a more hostile environment. Any obviously, not every situation needs an explanation.

It should be part of a coaches training for various licenses to do a basic referees course and to be educated as to how their behaviour can affect younger players they are coaching and also their interactions with referees. Nothing is more infuriating than a coach that doesn’t know the rules. I had coaches blowing up after their player hit the post with a penalty and followed up to convert, and I disallowed it because it never touched another player.


Obviously a big part of this is passion. We love this game. We are passionate and that’s one of the best things about football. It doesn’t help when we see Klopp and co going crazy at officials on game day, or players crowding the refereee (this seems to have improved a little). You see your superstars do it, you replicate them, just like they do with skills and styles.

[Thomas477]

I realise Plague is being hyperbolic with some aspects, but I don?t agree that referees should be totally exempt from criticism or questioning. That exacerbates the problem. But it is how you go about having that discussion. If you slam the ball down, get up swearing at the referee - dissent.


I would prefer to see a model, where the captain is allowed to engage with the referee to discuss decisions or game matters respectfully. Captains should be mature enough to have a civilised discussion.


Good referees are able to have those conversations, and are able to admit that they could be wrong, but made their decision based on what they saw and how they interpreted the situation. I?ve had many of those conversations over the years from both sides. ?From my viewpoint, it looked like a foul, maybe you had a different angle and opinion on it, but I can only call what myself and my assistant see.? Is usually enough to diffuse a situation and all that should be required of the referee. Acknowledge the query, explain your decision if engaged respectfully and in my experience, both parties can move on. Agree to disagree.

Of course, we can go with the ?referees shouldn?t have to explain their decision? path that many assessors and instructors taught years ago, but in my experience, it just creates a more hostile environment. Any obviously, not every situation needs an explanation.

It should be part of a coaches training for various licenses to do a basic referees course and to be educated as to how their behaviour can affect younger players they are coaching and also their interactions with referees. Nothing is more infuriating than a coach that doesn?t know the rules. I had coaches blowing up after their player hit the post with a penalty and followed up to convert, and I disallowed it because it never touched another player.


Obviously a big part of this is passion. We love this game. We are passionate and that?s one of the best things about football. It doesn?t help when we see Klopp and co going crazy at officials on game day, or players crowding the refereee (this seems to have improved a little). You see your superstars do it, you replicate them, just like they do with skills and styles.

The last paragraph is exactly the point I was aiming at. The way players carry on at international level and all professional leagues is embarrassing. But ours is a game that?s played from young kids up. The simplest way is don?t question the referee at all. What are you actually going to achieve? Nothing, and players don?t know how to do so. The constant abuse and dissent is the main reason a lot of refs give it up. It?s why I did. But fifa will do anything but tell their refs to enforce the laws as written. Someone questions a referees decision? That?s dissent. Players crowding referees after decisions? Caution each of those ****ers. After a few players are sent off, they?ll get the hint. The other thing is why are players immune from criticism for trying to deceive refs and “buy” fouls?

I?ve had everything from parents coming onto the field to abuse me after I gave a throw in in a dead rubber last match of the season, to sending a 14yo off for constant dissent, to being abused as a clubbie. The whole sport needs to learn to shut the **** up and learn to behave. Passion isn?t an excuse to behave poorly, and that starts at the top.

[My2BobsWorth]

It's not just a soccer problem Thomas, I've seen abusive fathers dragged from netball courts by other fathers and told to fuk off. It's a society problem and an ad campaign by the Gov to shame the dickheads may help

[Thomas477]

It's not just a soccer problem Thomas, I've seen abusive fathers dragged from netball courts by other fathers and told to fuk off. It's a society problem and an ad campaign by the Gov to shame the dickheads may help

Maybe, but the other football codes seem to have it under control. At least in the example you used, the other parents stepped in. When was the last time a parent (or duty officer, but that’s another question altogether) tell someone to stfu? My guess is incredibly rarely.

[Eastwest]

I?ve had everything from parents coming onto the field to abuse me after I gave a throw in in a dead rubber last match of the season, to sending a 14yo off for constant dissent, to being abused as a clubbie. The whole sport needs to learn to shut the **** up and learn to behave. Passion isn?t an excuse to behave poorly, and that starts at the top.

Agree. More parents than you think have the maturity of a 5yo. The tantrums over a throwin isnt funny.
The tolerance is gone now. Sometimes wish someone would just do a FAAFO knock down on those guys, coaches included.
Stfu and let the game go on.

[belchardo]

https://aleagues.com.au/news/a-league-news-open-letter-chairman-stephen-conroy-australian-football/

Good to hear from him. I know it's a bit of PR spin, but it is good to see some positive messages about the league.

[380]

https://aleagues.com.au/news/a-league-news-open-letter-chairman-stephen-conroy-australian-football/

Good to hear from him. I know it's a bit of PR spin, but it is good to see some positive messages about the league.

As a pollie in a previous life and now Sky pundit i can't stand the bloke, His support for useless state premiers bugs the shit out of me however in this role i actually think he can be a good asset and bring some value with his connections in the corporate world.

[Jetmaster]

I can't handle the bloke, he was one of the COVID crazies, and I watch Sky News.

He does have a love of the game going back to appearances on Santo, Sam and Ed however, so could yet prove a good choice.

Still alot of fluff in that letter though he does admit they abandoned the core support.

[Jim]

https://aleagues.com.au/news/a-league-news-open-letter-chairman-stephen-conroy-australian-football/

Good to hear from him. I know it's a bit of PR spin, but it is good to see some positive messages about the league.

Since unbundling, aggressive 3 year growth strategy, Covid re-emerged, consecutive growth:roflz:, digital strategy

conroy baby. He's the standard suited pencil neck who talks it up, writes it up, but delivers very little. He is a $$ thief at best.

[belchardo]

https://aleagues.com.au/news/marko-rudan-sanctions-announced-football-australia-what-he-said-video/

They busted out a whole new lettuce to discipline Rudan. 1 match ban, further 1 match ban (suspended). That'll teach him.

[My2BobsWorth]

I read it as a 2 match ban with 1 suspended belchardo but whatever it is it's a joke. Berates the refs, APL, FA, the league, and rival fans, who are obviously not of the calibre of the wankers fans

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/21/a-league-pfa-players-association-comments-australian-football


Yet even as concerns mount in the wake of layoffs, the APL claims it is not obliged to publicly report its financials because it operates under a trust structure.

Despite the PFA?s concerns over some APL decisions, Gill said she was ?encouraged? by the APL announcing a new owner for Perth Glory on Friday, Ross Pelligra.

The deal for the club, for a reported $1, does not include any unit holdings in the league?s trust.

I don't think that last paragraph has a typo in it. Interesting deal if true.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Had heard the $1 figure to be accurate for the license.

Not sure about the whole “access to holdings in the trust” thing and what that means for any potential revenue.

I read somewhere the deal was agreed upon after he committed to $4M each year to improve facilities, squad, programs etc. and seems APL thought that was money better spent.

Not really sure how that goes down with our prospective owners, Canberra or Auckland licensees. I guess they have the benefits of a clean slate, new license. Not sure what we are offering though.

[boz-monaut]

if Perth Glory are worth $1, what does that make the Jets worth?

[ForeverRed]

if Perth Glory are worth $1, what does that make the Jets worth?
Surly we can at least get a carton

[The Postman]

Did our active support ever have issues like some other groups are having atm with the boys in blue?

Some pretty depressing stuff out there from the weekend.

[Bremsstrahlung]

From memory, it was mostly stadium security that thought they were cops.

Not sure though.

[R Ramjet]

It did look like there was more police at our game then there normally would be.

[plague]

It did look like there was more police at our game then there normally would be.

That's because there were 100s of gypos at the stadium. The good officers of NSW police were fantastic forming a ring around me so the filth didn't get too close.

How the **** they got over Swansea bridge needs an immediate enquiry and heads must roll.

We need more police at games, not less.

[belchardo]

https://aleagues.com.au/news/terry-antonis-goal-video-wanderers-city-a-league-goals-video-highlights-maclaren/

A truly great night. Looking forward to watching the replay.

[Jetmaster]

Obviously the coach is broken hearted at 7-0....

https://www.westsydneyfootball.com/uploads/monthly_2024_03/Capture.JPG.8f990d9539bad133897cf340ef17ae24.JPG

Rumours of a fist fight in the dressing room - see how it plays out.

[Jeterpool]

Daniel Elder appointed for our match tomorrow night.

Interestingly, the two premier referees in the competition, Alireza Faghani and Alex King, are yet to referee a Jets fixture this season

[plague]

Rudan looking like he's fired up another burner on twitter and is unloading on all the unwashed.

I sure will miss him when he's gone.

Best comp in the world.

[Killa]

Rudan looking like he's fired up another burner on twitter and is unloading on all the unwashed.

I sure will miss him when he's gone.

Best comp in the world.

He is the Heel this League has needed for so long.

[plague]

He is the Heel this League has needed for so long.

To be clear though, after reading about his alleged off field stuff and seeing him in action all these years as a player and coach, I don't want him anywhere near the game or it's participants.

It's just good to know he's out there, in the void, yelling at anyone and everyone utilising any and all available mediums.

Maintain the rage I say, just do it........way way way over there.

[belchardo]

https://aleagues.com.au/news/a-league-auckland-fc-news-name-jersey-colours/

I have to admit I think that is a very classy kit.

I look forward to the many years of people quoting Monty Python at them.

[My2BobsWorth]

Not going with the black knights, even though the owner wanted it, plain old Auckland FC. Club colours are proper football colours, not Facebook brown like we run around in

[The Postman]

Nickname is the Black Knights, not included in the offical name.

Badge looks like someone whipped it up in MS Paint. Kit is very nice.

[belchardo]

I honestly can't see how we can avoid the spoon this year.

We have City, Sydney, Brisbane, Wellington, mariners.

Western have Adelaide, MacArthur, mariners, Adelaide, Perth, city.

We are one point in front, with one less game to play, and one less win. So western need 1 more point than us with a much easier run home to avoid the spoon.

Why do we do this to ourselves?

[Jetmaster]

So western need 1 more point than us with a much easier run home to avoid the spoon.

TBH on paper they look a better side than us anyway.

[anfield]

The spoon could be avoided if we played our best side. Can we get natta moved to LB and push Lucas up to LM. Natta played his best football last year at LB, He Gets monstered at times on set pieces, allows Grimaldi back in.

Ingham to bench, Tom Aq back to RB. Taylor at RM, Piscope up front with Stama

Next year bring in Left sided CB to provide competition to Cancar and Grimaldi. Obviously resign Cancar, we have spent so much time on these guys we need to see it through.

[ForeverRed]

The spoon could be avoided if we played our best side. Can we get natta moved to LB and push Lucas up to LM. Natta played his best football last year at LB, He Gets monstered at times on set pieces, allows Grimaldi back in.

Ingham to bench, Tom Aq back to RB. Taylor at RM, Piscope up front with Stama

Next year bring in Left sided CB to provide competition to Cancar and Grimaldi. Obviously resign Cancar, we have spent so much time on these guys we need to see it through.
With the sale falling over I don?t think there?ll be a next year.

[W8 WATCHER]

the spoon could be avoided if we played our best side. Can we get natta moved to lb and push lucas up to lm. Natta played his best football last year at lb, he gets monstered at times on set pieces, allows grimaldi back in.

Ingham to bench, tom aq back to rb. Taylor at rm, piscope up front with stama

next year bring in left sided cb to provide competition to cancar and grimaldi. Obviously resign cancar, we have spent so much time on these guys we need to see it through.

why isn't dowse playing?

[380]

With the sale falling over I don?t think there?ll be a next year.

Or at the very least and push comes to shove and it is the only way our current owners can get some form of a return the APL will allow it to be purchased and relocated to another region.

I know there was the commitment about it was not to be relocated but at the end of the day if there is no other way of dealing with it i suspect that option will be put on the table so both the current owners and APL can make a quid.

[StannyCFCJET]

The spoon could be avoided if we played our best side. Can we get natta moved to LB and push Lucas up to LM. Natta played his best football last year at LB, He Gets monstered at times on set pieces, allows Grimaldi back in.

Ingham to bench, Tom Aq back to RB. Taylor at RM, Piscope up front with Stama

Next year bring in Left sided CB to provide competition to Cancar and Grimaldi. Obviously resign Cancar, we have spent so much time on these guys we need to see it through.

Natta isn't a lB and Taylor isn't a right sided player. Natta just need to be dropped

[anfield]

Natta isn't a lB and Taylor isn't a right sided player. Natta just need to be dropped

Sometimes you have to fit your best 11 into the team. I agree Taylor better on the left, but we are second last. Not too many deserve to play where they want.

Natta went well at LB last year, He finished the season there.

[StannyCFCJET]

Sometimes you have to fit your best 11 into the team. I agree Taylor better on the left, but we are second last. Not too many deserve to play where they want.

Natta went well at LB last year, He finished the season there.

He's been in poor form anything other then him being dropped sends the wrong message. Stanton needs to show some backbone. Your not gonna perform them your not being picked.

[Eastwest]

Ever since the Member was banned the club has gone downhill. Kill the admin.

[Couscous]

Have the Jets have ever won the wooden spoon. I can't recall.

[Jetmaster]

2008/2009.

Some twit managed to take us from the penthouse to the shithouse in less than 12 months.

[380]

2008/2009.

Some twit managed to take us from the penthouse to the shithouse in less than 12 months.

Be kind he done one good thing at the Jets and the rest was just utter shite inc picking Gallaway in the first 11.

[Jetmaster]

The fun continues with the APL....


Statement from the APL.

?We were made aware [Wednesday] that Global Advance (GA), the independent production company that produces the telecast for our women?s and men?s matches, has gone into administration.

?We are disappointed in the manner in which this has come to our attention, and the risk this has placed on our fan, player, club, broadcast and commercial commitments. We have been let down, and will be working with the administrators to recoup monies owing to APL.

Through a lot of hard work by a new production company, Ten-Paramount, and our team, we are close to finalising an agreement and are confident all matches will be broadcast, starting tomorrow. There are many challenges that such a short timeframe presents, but we are working through this urgently with all of our stakeholders, and we thank the production company for their cooperation, flexibility and expertise at such short notice.

Finally, we want to acknowledge all of the great staff at GA, along with their suppliers, that have been impacted by this. They have played a big role in bringing A-Leagues football to screens over the past few years and we are thinking of them through this tough time.?

[belchardo]

Far. King. Hell.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/28/a-league-tv-broadcast-blackout-production-team-global-advance-administration

Guardian article

[My2BobsWorth]

The hole's getting deeper, pretty soon it'll be too deep to climb out

[finzee]

APL couldnt run a raffle. But they are great at producing rubbish. KUTGW pretenders

[380]

I wonder in light of this issue our " here to get the deal done " prospects even bothered departing the aircraft ?.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Clause 1: APL administrators much resign immediately and relinquish control to somebody more suitable. Ie. literally anybody.

[Thomas477]

Clause 1: APL administrators much resign immediately and relinquish control to somebody more suitable. Ie. literally anybody.

This is what I don’t get. If the clubs run the apl, how the hell has it gotten this bad?

[My2BobsWorth]

The owners and brains trust have no fukin idea what they're doing

[Oldy]

The owners and brains trust have no fukin idea what they're doing

Exactly

Hope the APL aholes go broke and someone else takes it over

[Jetmaster]

This is what I don’t get. If the clubs run the apl, how the hell has it gotten this bad?

It has heavily been invested in a board biased to Sydney and Melbourne. We saw this with the GF controversy with most clubs being blindsided. Basically not all the clubs have much say.

I was fortunate enough to have an extended conversation with one of the owners of a club outside the loop 18 months ago. He said then it was a dictatorship run by Townsend and that he would stuff it up and do a runner....how true.

[380]

It has heavily been invested in a board biased to Sydney and Melbourne. We saw this with the GF controversy with most clubs being blindsided. Basically not all the clubs have much say.

I was fortunate enough to have an extended conversation with one of the owners of a club outside the loop 18 months ago. He said then it was a dictatorship run by Townsend and that he would stuff it up and do a runner....how true.

Did you say hello to Sage for us all ?. For all the bashing up on him the bloke had the APL worked out from the very beginning.

[Thomas477]

It has heavily been invested in a board biased to Sydney and Melbourne. We saw this with the GF controversy with most clubs being blindsided. Basically not all the clubs have much say.

I was fortunate enough to have an extended conversation with one of the owners of a club outside the loop 18 months ago. He said then it was a dictatorship run by Townsend and that he would stuff it up and do a runner....how true.

I may be missing the point, but I assume each club has an equal vote, so surely they could’ve gotten enough support to remove Townsend? Even post Townsend, the decision to change the order of tiebreakers from GD to wins didn’t seem communicated?

Either way, seems like the Middle East is a perfect fit for him.

[My2BobsWorth]

Did you say hello to Sage for us all ?. For all the bashing up on him the bloke had the APL worked out from the very beginning.

Tony is the owner that we all want, said he was happy to keep funding Perth with some assistance but none was forthcoming

[380]

Tony is the owner that we all want, said he was happy to keep funding Perth with some assistance but none was forthcoming

Agree, I got annoyed when i would read Glory fans trashing him the way they did last couple of seasons. Was terrible treatment of the bloke.

[belchardo]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/04/17/does-the-a-league-have-the-clout-to-make-a-uk-bound-event-round-work-in-season-2024-25/

I'll have what he's having - clearly it's good stuff to come up with this brainwave.

[380]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/04/17/does-the-a-league-have-the-clout-to-make-a-uk-bound-event-round-work-in-season-2024-25/

I'll have what he's having - clearly it's good stuff to come up with this brainwave.

Just what the poms want, Football without the running from clubs they know SFA about. How could it fail, Sure this isn't a Townsend idea ?

[Jeterpool]

O'Neill confirms in the Herald he's leaving the club for family reasons to go to Perth... the same reason he used to leave Perth and come here 2 years ago.
His final interview comes across quite insincere about the why he's bailing when the club are possibly going to fold

[Killa]

O'Neill confirms in the Herald he's leaving the club for family reasons to go to Perth... the same reason he used to leave Perth and come here 2 years ago.
His final interview comes across quite insincere about the why he's bailing when the club are possibly going to fold

He has been a massive let down if I am being completely honest. So I for one, am glad he is going

[380]

He has been a massive let down if I am being completely honest. So I for one, am glad he is going

This, You could count the number of games on one hand where he has been anywhere near good enough and at any other club with decent competition for starting spots he would have been on the bench more often than not last two seasons.

[Couscous]

GVH is on too much money in China to be tempted back to the Jets.

Given that door has closed, it's a shame that Zadkovich is now locked in with Roar. I wonder who the new owner will turn to.

[Couscous]

Let's hope that door is also closed to The Hoff.

[380]

Let's hope that door is also closed to The Hoff.

Closed too everybody at this rate

[My2BobsWorth]

Let's hope that door is also closed to The Hoff.

Your worst post of all time, hail the Hoff

[plague]

Yeah bag the bloke all you want but he survived the "Hoff off" chants at the same time as Brodie Mooy was copping it.

He came on as a sub for Troy Hearfield in his debut.

Will never be on the Jets Mt Rushmore but deserves respect.


Also, lol at the Jets for putting a photo of him in his Heart kit in their tribute. That's some Benny O'Neil level trolling right there.

Well played, social media intern.

Cheers Hoff.

cheers,
plague.

[Jetmaster]

One of the great Hoff moments was when he was with Heart....

Toe to toe with Berisha...

1849

HOFF!

[Couscous]

Will never be on the Jets Mt Rushmore but deserves respect.

"Visualize an eroded escarpment with four intricate face carvings, representing iconic figures from the Newcastle Jets A-League team: Gary Van Egmond, Joel Griffiths, Nick Carle, and Ljubo Milicevic."

https://i.ibb.co/kQ7Tzwz/gencraft-image-1714177448863-1.png

These generative AI models can't even count to four, let alone capture GVE in a meaningful way.

Forum, who are your three other Rushmore faces?

[My2BobsWorth]

Is that the famous wankers wall?

[Couscous]

Congratulations to the Central Coast Mariners, champions of Asia minor.

[My2BobsWorth]

https://forum.insidesport.com.au/3111931/ALeagues-financial-crisis-Club-funding-slashed-as-TV-deal-tanks?PageIndex=1
HOLY SHIT

[Jetmaster]

Robbie Slater leaked this a few weeks ago and was panned for doing so. FC32 knew this was on the cards as well and called it out.

[Eastwest]

https://forum.insidesport.com.au/3111931/ALeagues-financial-crisis-Club-funding-slashed-as-TV-deal-tanks?PageIndex=1
HOLY SHIT

Makes Lowy look like an angel. APL are a cancer

[belchardo]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/05/16/affected-our-family-deeply-tragic-reason-marko-rudan-has-parted-ways-with-western-sydney-wanderers/

Rudes out.

[Jeterpool]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-17/nsw-a-league-players-alleged-betting-scandal-yellow-cards/103860160

[belchardo]

Man, you just can't see how things can get any worse, and then something like this comes along.

[380]

Man, you just can't see how things can get any worse, and then something like this comes along.

Yep

The game and more importantly the League itself is already hemorrhaging funds and this type of a scandal will undoubtedly scare away any potential corporate money and those already committed will certainly be reevaluating there involvement in the game and use this situation as leverage to terminate existing financial agreements.

This could really impact club land as a whole, You may very well get individual club sponsors who wish they had there time all over again and use this to walk away from sponsorship agreements they have in place for next season.

[The Postman]

Man, this frigging League! Unreal!

[My2BobsWorth]

Hard to say no to the Mexican crime gangs

[ForeverRed]

Watch channel 10 use this as a get out clause

[plague]

Watch channel 10 use this as a get out clause

Maybe it was Channel 10 organising the bets in order to get some of their investment back.

[Jetmaster]

Congratulations to the Central Coast Mariners, champions of Asia minor.

I only just realised tonight that the Mariners didn't win the actual Champions League, but some other tin cup on offer....ffs.

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/may/20/nrl-png-expansion-club-plan-federal-government-scheme-extra-funding

The FA should take this article, walk straight up to every federal parliamentarian and say we want a substantially bigger deal for all the soft diplomacy we can do in the Pacific, Asia, Africa, South America and the Middle East.

[Jim]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/may/20/nrl-png-expansion-club-plan-federal-government-scheme-extra-funding

The FA should take this article, walk straight up to every federal parliamentarian and say we want a substantially bigger deal for all the soft diplomacy we can do in the Pacific, Asia, Africa, South America and the Middle East.


the NRL reported distributions to clubs of $98.2m (8 mill each) in 2023 in addition to the payments to cover player salaries, a 33% increase on the previous year.

fmd. That plus a lazy 2mill on top.

edit-cheers 380

[380]

98.2 across all NRL clubs not each.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Honestly, it’s pretty incredible what the administration of thugby league can do.

Nobody cares when yet another player is charged with allegedly assaulting his wife, because ITS MAGIC ROUND BABY where each clubs fans go for a drunken bender in Brisbane and brawl at games and on the streets, but nobody knows cause most news agencies have a finger in the pie somewhere.


In all seriousness, we need an admin with some balls that can get us a good deal that can go a long way to covering basic travel and salaries. Leaving clubs to determine how much they fork out for additional staff, facilities and marquee style players.

[Frodo]

We need to start again with a product that people actually want to watch before we start asking for money to fix our issues. We are too busy trying to become the NRL that we are ruining the actual game itself here to do so.

We need to focus on selling out stadiums and making our money that way, then when there is a league full of teams with packed stadiums each week, great atmosphere, etc, people will want to come and check it out themselves.

Sitting in McDonald Jones stadium with a bunch of families hearing a pin drop for 90 mins isn't what football should be. 4000 people singing and screaming for 90 mins in some cramped, pain in the arse to get into and out of, stadium sounds like a lot more fun.


Then, we can actually start to market ourselves as a real league to the rest of the world and make our money from football fans in general instead of trying to convert NRL families over like we do now.

NRL wishes it was a Seppo sport, we need to try and become a Euro one instead. Seppo owners bribe city officials to build them a new stadium, Euro clubs get the president of the entire nation to beg their star player to stay, lol. Way cooler.

[plague]

There was a time when we had an actual heavy hitter that could open doors and command the ear of the people in power but you all hated him and ran him out of the game.

You 'true fanz' all got what you wanted.

[Killa]

Honestly, it?s pretty incredible what the administration of thugby league can do.

Nobody cares when yet another player is charged with allegedly assaulting his wife, because ITS MAGIC ROUND BABY where each clubs fans go for a drunken bender in Brisbane and brawl at games and on the streets, but nobody knows cause most news agencies have a finger in the pie somewhere.


In all seriousness, we need an admin with some balls that can get us a good deal that can go a long way to covering basic travel and salaries. Leaving clubs to determine how much they fork out for additional staff, facilities and marquee style players.

Thugby League, what are you 11? Code Wars are ****ing boring and childlike.

The whole notion that nobody cares about DV issues is simply untrue. There has been widespread outrage and condemnation of both DV issues in the last 7 days from NRL supporters and there always is condemnation when these issues arise. Stop making up fake scenarios to supplement your own agenda

The APL will never receive a single government cent whilst they are a For Profit operation. The first thing the Government will ask when the APL ask for money is "how will it be spent?". After seeing the current track record of the APL, it will not be spent wisely at all so why would the Government trust them? What would they get in return? There is simply not enough demand for A-Liga Football at the moment.

[Frodo]

Thugby League, what are you 11? Code Wars are ****ing boring and childlike.

The whole notion that nobody cares about DV issues is simply untrue. There has been widespread outrage and condemnation of both DV issues in the last 7 days from NRL supporters and there always is condemnation when these issues arise. Stop making up fake scenarios to supplement your own agenda

I mean, you can literally Google NRL and there's nothing about the DV case, or the parent who's dad is facing execution in the Philippines, or the pundit who got charged with assault, it's all about a coach getting sacked and a new coach elsewhere.

Google A League and all you get is the Macarthur story.


The.NRL was smart enough to sell a share in the league to the media and now the media works to help it's own investment by wiping all these stories under the rug as quickly as possible and pushing positive stories to keep people from really looking into how much of a problem that code actually has. It was a brilliant move TBH.

[mic22]

I think the Sydney Herald is the most read newspaper in the country.

Just check the sports section: 80% is NRL, all year round.
Football coverage is: occasional articles on Matildas, Socceroos or Premier League (mostly Ange). A-League is only mentioned with regard to ground invasions, betting scandals, player misconduct etc.

Not a single article on A-league games.

Can't be a coincidence...

[Killa]

I mean, you can literally Google NRL and there's nothing about the DV case, or the parent who's dad is facing execution in the Philippines, or the pundit who got charged with assault, it's all about a coach getting sacked and a new coach elsewhere.

Google A League and all you get is the Macarthur story.


The.NRL was smart enough to sell a share in the league to the media and now the media works to help it's own investment by wiping all these stories under the rug as quickly as possible and pushing positive stories to keep people from really looking into how much of a problem that code actually has. It was a brilliant move TBH.

Googled A-League and I got the following articles

Mariners 1 win away from Treble
Article about Ange
Kai Trewin signing for Melb City
A-League on brink of Financial Disaster

Macarthur story buried towards the bottom (it quite rightly deserves national attention considering its links to Organised Crime)

Googled NRL and got

Taylan May stood down, to face court over charges
Roosters responding to viral video
Sad Text over coaches sacking
Expansion news

[ForeverRed]

Thugby League, what are you 11? Code Wars are ****ing boring and childlike.

The whole notion that nobody cares about DV issues is simply untrue. There has been widespread outrage and condemnation of both DV issues in the last 7 days from NRL supporters and there always is condemnation when these issues arise. Stop making up fake scenarios to supplement your own agenda

The APL will never receive a single government cent whilst they are a For Profit operation. The first thing the Government will ask when the APL ask for money is "how will it be spent?". After seeing the current track record of the APL, it will not be spent wisely at all so why would the Government trust them? What would they get in return? There is simply not enough demand for A-Liga Football at the moment.
Yeah get it right, it?s drugby league

[Buddha]

Code Wars suck. Anybody who participates in them does too.

Government won’t give money to Z-league organisation anyway.
A) because they know APL will waste it
B) as Killa said, they are a For Profit organisation

There’s not enough interest in the league to be handing out big sums of money

[Couscous]

There was a time when we had an actual heavy hitter that could open doors and command the ear of the people in power but you all hated him and ran him out of the game.

You 'true fanz' all got what you wanted.

The true fanz have no interest in GVE. And he's not going to come back. Hopefully we strike lucky again in a few years or so.

[Guerny]

I'm looking at the official jets news site: https://newcastlejetsfc.com.au/news/

Am I missing seeing any sort of official anouncement / confirmation of the new ownership?
Seems like something a club should have an official statment or press release about...
Is it not done?

[Thomas477]

I'm looking at the official jets news site: https://newcastlejetsfc.com.au/news/

Am I missing seeing any sort of official anouncement / confirmation of the new ownership?
Seems like something a club should have an official statment or press release about...
Is it not done?

In Shane We Trust?....

[380]

I'm looking at the official jets news site: https://newcastlejetsfc.com.au/news/

Am I missing seeing any sort of official anouncement / confirmation of the new ownership?
Seems like something a club should have an official statment or press release about...
Is it not done?

If you are waiting for the Executive Chairman to confer with members n supporters on the current status of the club you are well and truly delirious.

If there is one thing we know about the clubs EC is he is consistent. Perhaps he has departed hence no updates from anybody in a position to do so.

[Frodo]

Stamatelopoulos in the Socceroos squad. Good to know we aren't too much of a drain on someone's career prospects, if he can get himself a run in these games and looks good he might be fighting for an overseas contract next season. Here's hoping we can get a nice little fee for him and put that towards an academy under the new owners, if and when they finally show up and take over.

[belchardo]

I'm looking at the official jets news site: https://newcastlejetsfc.com.au/news/

Am I missing seeing any sort of official anouncement / confirmation of the new ownership?
Seems like something a club should have an official statment or press release about...
Is it not done?

wasn't the last info that it was with the FA for their approval, and that may take 3 weeks? I think that was at least a week ago, if not two.

[380]

Stamatelopoulos in the Socceroos squad. Good to know we aren't too much of a drain on someone's career prospects, if he can get himself a run in these games and looks good he might be fighting for an overseas contract next season. Here's hoping we can get a nice little fee for him and put that towards an academy under the new owners, if and when they finally show up and take over.

Yep real pleased for the bloke, works hard and good with his feet or head and is a really decent passer. He's a bit unique in he can get in behind defences or play back to goal.

[Guerny]

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/a-league-clubs-in-peril-as-apl-prepares-to-wield-financial-axe-608394



Fears of the big squeeze are understood to be one reason the takeover of the Newcastle Jets by a group of Melbourne and Sydney-based business identities has yet to be ratified, the skittish investors seeking clarification on the how much the club will receive in disbursements before signing off on the deal.

[belchardo]

You know, I can't help feeling like I've heard this before...

Anybody know any white Knights looking for a noble cause? The APL could use one.

[Alton]

You know, I can't help feeling like I've heard this before...

Anybody know any white Knights looking for a noble cause? The APL could use one.
FA needs to step in now and take back control before there it is too late

[The Postman]

Newcastle has such a rich football history with a catchment area to the QLD border, only competition in town is Rugby League and thousands and thousands of kids, mums and dads from 5 to 55 actively playing soccer every weekend.

Why is this so hard! This town has shown time and time again that we will support a strong and secure Jets. When times get tough and more importantly uncertain off the pitch, people stay away.

I am 99% sure when each owner (Con, Tinks, Lee) were at their peak e.g. posing with the scarf in front of the grandstand, signing well known imports, saluting to the Griff etc, our crowds were at their highest!

I get running a football club is hard and costly in Australia, but the blueprint is right there (unfortunately down the F3 in a shanty town) but like man, it can't be that hard.

[StannyCFCJET]

Newcastle has such a rich football history with a catchment area to the QLD border, only competition in town is Rugby League and thousands and thousands of kids, mums and dads from 5 to 55 actively playing soccer every weekend.

Why is this so hard! This town has shown time and time again that we will support a strong and secure Jets. When times get tough and more importantly uncertain off the pitch, people stay away.

I am 99% sure when each owner (Con, Tinks, Lee) were at their peak e.g. posing with the scarf in front of the grandstand, signing well known imports, saluting to the Griff etc, our crowds were at their highest!

I get running a football club is hard and costly in Australia, but the blueprint is right there (unfortunately down the F3 in a shanty town) but like man, it can't be that hard.

No they havent. One or two games in the midst of a winning run doesnt count unless when that run goes away they stick with the Jets which they never do

[380]

Borrowed from a news article today Thur


"Two more A-League players have been named as participants in an alleged bet-fixing scheme involving their Macarthur FC teammates.
Matthew Millar and Jed Drew are accused of participating in a criminal group that also allegedly involved three charged players, club captain Ulises Davila and teammates Clayton Lewis and Kearyn Baccus.
Their identities were revealed in documents today as midfielder Baccus, 32, became the first of the trio to face court over the alleged plot to receive yellow cards in return for payment."

[Killa]

Borrowed from a news article today Thur


"Two more A-League players have been named as participants in an alleged bet-fixing scheme involving their Macarthur FC teammates.
Matthew Millar and Jed Drew are accused of participating in a criminal group that also allegedly involved three charged players, club captain Ulises Davila and teammates Clayton Lewis and Kearyn Baccus.
Their identities were revealed in documents today as midfielder Baccus, 32, became the first of the trio to face court over the alleged plot to receive yellow cards in return for payment."

Apparently Jed Drew is not part of the gang. The Bulls put out a statement recently regarding that misinformation

[My2BobsWorth]

https://analyticsfc.co.uk/blog/2024/05/30/scouting-the-a-league-a-new-competition-opened-up-by-gbe-changes/
Interesting article but my eyes started glazing over

[Jeterpool]

Some interesting departures from Victory, Macarthur and Sydney over the last few days.

Wonder if any will end up with us? Brimmer and Ikonomidis are probably the pick on paper but neither set the world on fire the last season and a half. Brattan is off to Macarthur and they sold Girwood-Reich for a fee to America.

MACARTHUR
— Charles M’Mombwa
— Daniel De Silva
— Danijel Nizic
— Jerry Skotadis
— Jesper Webber
— Kearyn Baccus
— Matthew Millar
— Tommy Smith

VICTORY
— Jake Brimmer
— Chris Ikonomidis
— Stefan Nigro
— Eli Adams
— Salim Khelifi
— Ahmad Taleb

The sale to America of JGR...I think in the past we looked at ourselves on par with the MLS for football quality (not in terms of financial capacity). Suggest that may no longer be the case if they're seeing us as a market from which to buy.

[Alton]

Some interesting departures from Victory, Macarthur and Sydney over the last few days.

Wonder if any will end up with us? Brimmer and Ikonomidis are probably the pick on paper but neither set the world on fire the last season and a half. Brattan is off to Macarthur and they sold Girwood-Reich for a fee to America.

MACARTHUR
— Charles M’Mombwa
— Daniel De Silva
— Danijel Nizic
— Jerry Skotadis
— Jesper Webber
— Kearyn Baccus
— Matthew Millar
— Tommy Smith

VICTORY
— Jake Brimmer
— Chris Ikonomidis
— Stefan Nigro
— Eli Adams
— Salim Khelifi
— Ahmad Taleb

The sale to America of JGR...I think in the past we looked at ourselves on par with the MLS for football quality (not in terms of financial capacity). Suggest that may no longer be the case if they're seeing us as a market from which to buy.

Get Brimmer

[belchardo]

We're probably going to sign Millar and Bacchus.

[StannyCFCJET]

Some interesting departures from Victory, Macarthur and Sydney over the last few days.

Wonder if any will end up with us? Brimmer and Ikonomidis are probably the pick on paper but neither set the world on fire the last season and a half. Brattan is off to Macarthur and they sold Girwood-Reich for a fee to America.

MACARTHUR
— Charles M’Mombwa
— Daniel De Silva
— Danijel Nizic
— Jerry Skotadis
— Jesper Webber
— Kearyn Baccus
— Matthew Millar
— Tommy Smith

VICTORY
— Jake Brimmer
— Chris Ikonomidis
— Stefan Nigro
— Eli Adams
— Salim Khelifi
— Ahmad Taleb

The sale to America of JGR...I think in the past we looked at ourselves on par with the MLS for football quality (not in terms of financial capacity). Suggest that may no longer be the case if they're seeing us as a market from which to buy.

Eli Adams has signed with us going off Wiki

[The Postman]

Tommy Smith signed with Auckland FC.

[Alton]

Eli Adams has signed with us going off Wiki

Newcastle Jets add promising Melbourne Victory attacker to arsenal

James Gardiner
By James Gardiner
Updated June 2 2024 - 12:34PM, first published 11:30AM

[Mark325]

Newcastle Jets add promising Melbourne Victory attacker to arsenal

James Gardiner
By James Gardiner
Updated June 2 2024 - 12:34PM, first published 11:30AM

Is he actually promising?

[380]

We're probably going to sign Millar and Bacchus.

What are the odds ????:grin::grin:

[anfield]

Get Brimmer

If he was available for sure, But there was a strong rumour months ago he was going to Auckland.

[anfield]

Some interesting departures from Victory, Macarthur and Sydney over the last few days.

Wonder if any will end up with us? Brimmer and Ikonomidis are probably the pick on paper but neither set the world on fire the last season and a half. Brattan is off to Macarthur and they sold Girwood-Reich for a fee to America.

MACARTHUR
— Charles M’Mombwa
— Daniel De Silva
— Danijel Nizic
— Jerry Skotadis
— Jesper Webber
— Kearyn Baccus
— Matthew Millar
— Tommy Smith

VICTORY
— Jake Brimmer
— Chris Ikonomidis
— Stefan Nigro
— Eli Adams
— Salim Khelifi
— Ahmad Taleb

The sale to America of JGR...I think in the past we looked at ourselves on par with the MLS for football quality (not in terms of financial capacity). Suggest that may no longer be the case if they're seeing us as a market from which to buy.

MLS is flushed with cash, A League isn't. Cash is king, players will chase the money. MLS clubs have recruited internationals from South America in recent years. Many from Argentina, Paraguay and Columbia.

While the A League is going forward the A League has stalled. APL have wasted too much money. Big concern is the salary cap isn't going up with the slash of grants to clubs.

All clubs are losing experienced players, My concern is the League will end up with squads that are all very young. Great for player development but many good players 25 plus will head overseas as the money won't be in Australia.

APL need to sort finances out and grow the game. Increase of salary cap will increase quality of the competition.

[380]

Would have Ikonomidis. He hasn't set the world alight in recent times but i like his speed and always looking to beat his man and drive into the box.

One way or another Conroy n Co need to convince those with the real sway behind the scenes ie Lederer n Co they need to put there tail between there legs eat some humble pie and embrace the FA back to the League in some capacity in order to get the competition n clubs in particular some much needed funding. As much as the club owners may not like to admit it they need the FA directly involved again day to day and also pitching in when it comes to carrying the can.

[Bremsstrahlung]

What are the odds ????:grin::grin:

:redcard:

[Guerny]

We're probably going to sign Millar and Bacchus.

Are game fixing payments inside or outside of the salary cap?

[My2BobsWorth]

This lot must be on drugs
https://aleagues.com.au/news/isuzu-ute-a-league-three-year-growth-details-tv-viewership-crowds-sponsorship-transfers/

[belchardo]

Would be nice if they announced the full list of metrics they will use at the start of the season, and then release the results of all of them at the end, so that we can get a real understanding.

[380]

This lot must be on drugs
https://aleagues.com.au/news/isuzu-ute-a-league-three-year-growth-details-tv-viewership-crowds-sponsorship-transfers/

Most of those stats are in % which in the absence of the raw numbers those % are representative of can be quite misleading.

If your raw base numbers are low even a marginal improvement can look glowing when you represent it in percentages.

Expanded community, WTF ?. Please APL explain how this metric has any relevance and value add to the A League ???.

[ForeverRed]

https://www.facebook.com/share/vjneDZUs7DyRj2PQ/?mibextid=WC7FNe
Some serious money to be made in the revamped Asian Champions League & Asian Cup, some big changes, clubs will take this more seriously now with the dollars on offer,

[My2BobsWorth]

Does anybody know what part of the body the new offside rules apply to?

[Dezy1]

We need to start again with a product that people actually want to watch before we start asking for money to fix our issues. We are too busy trying to become the NRL that we are ruining the actual game itself here to do so.

We need to focus on selling out stadiums and making our money that way, then when there is a league full of teams with packed stadiums each week, great atmosphere, etc, people will want to come and check it out themselves.

Sitting in McDonald Jones stadium with a bunch of families hearing a pin drop for 90 mins isn't what football should be. 4000 people singing and screaming for 90 mins in some cramped, pain in the arse to get into and out of, stadium sounds like a lot more fun.


Then, we can actually start to market ourselves as a real league to the rest of the world and make our money from football fans in general instead of trying to convert NRL families over like we do now.

NRL wishes it was a Seppo sport, we need to try and become a Euro one instead. Seppo owners bribe city officials to build them a new stadium, Euro clubs get the president of the entire nation to beg their star player to stay, lol. Way cooler.

Filling up stadiums is not rocket science.

People want to be entertained. That's all. It doesn't even really matter if the team loses so long as they get some dopamine hits from their team scoring goals at the right time in the game ie. not in the last 10 minutes after the score is already 0-3. It doesn't matter that the players are 4 levels below the EPL.

The problem is that iterations of the FFA/APL and the Jets have sterilized the game day atmosphere. There needs to be a return to game day rituals, superstitions, someone needs to pay a tribute in Styx creek, the "Squadron" or whatever it's called these days needs to just entertain itself and be there for the players, and not worry about trying to get the rest of the crowd into it.

The Americans have a great tradition of tailgating at games, and just making a day of it and bringing their own enjoyment of the game with them. We just need to stop expecting the club do it for us.

[Jeterpool]

Robert Dillon has left the Herald

[Jetmaster]

Probably too old for the current journo demographic they have there now.

[Jetmaster]

Mariners lose their owner....

https://ccmariners.com.au/news/a-statement-from-rich-peil/

[plague]

Mariners lose their owner....

https://ccmariners.com.au/news/a-statement-from-rich-peil/

How fitting that the king gypo has a sook and walks away because his welfare cheques have reduced.

Such a fitting end for a district built from the ground up on poverty and handouts.

**** em.

Fold the club, I'd rather play the bye anyway it's more financially stable than anything down there.

Was going to suggest they melt down their trophies and sell em for scrap but not having ever won anything it makes it a tad difficult.

Farewell another whingeing freeloader from our sport.

May only the strongest survive.

Another win for Griff.


Hail Griff.

















GRIFF!!!!!!!

[evolution]

Ray Gatt on Twitter also claiming Charlesworth is planning on handing back the license at the end of this season as well. Canberra/Gold Coast/Alice Springs Mariners is back on!

Seriously though we really can?t go 5 minutes without either us or the Gypos being in some sort of crisis.

[My2BobsWorth]

Don't hold onto someone who can't swim when you are drowning. Lord Zlatan:what:

[plague]

Ray Gatt on Twitter also claiming Charlesworth is planning on handing back the license at the end of this season as well.

Gatt has always been a mouthpiece for the gypos. This is just the new king gypo having a cry.

If he thinks he's gonna get one over Conroy he's in for a shock.

Hand it back, and **** off. No one cares pal.

[380]

Peil probably pop up as the bag man behind the Canberra team in the future as was originally mooted prior to MacArthur n Western being admitted.

[Jetmaster]

Gypo fans on Reddit losing their shit. "You can't not fund the Premiers", "Why did APL fund the Jets (sic)", "No Mariners, no A-League", "Mariners are the biggest regional sports club in the country", "Maybe we will have to have a merger after all".

Funny coincided with Graham (give all Scum a cap) Arnold chucking it in.

[Buddha]

"Mariners are the biggest regional sports club in the country"

Not even close to being true either. Geelong has them covered by an absolute mile. And I would also argue NQ Cowboys have them covered too.

[evolution]

Don?t even have to look that far. The Knights are 10 times bigger than they could ever dream of being.

[plague]

Small point but Newcastle ain't regional and hasn't been for a long time.

Of course there's 374 different definitions as to what 'regional' is but I like the one that says we aint it.


Gosford and surrounds are just a eyesore. Send their team to Port Moresby no one will know or care.

**** em

[evolution]

Small point but Newcastle ain't regional and hasn't been for a long time.

I agree but I?ll take any metric I can to lay the boot into the Gypos.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Jets 20 years:
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/NC-JETS20-AMU-1800NBN-TU_20241015.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

Longer version on FB with season launch footage
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/ihiGgChVaEWmN6Xm/

[Jeterpool]

https://newcastleweekly.com.au/alm-city-coach-calls-for-jets-fans-to-be-patient/

Read the room Aurelio. We're the most patient of fans in the league. We've been patient enough.

[Buddha]

Read the room Aurelio. We're the most patient of fans in the league. We've been patient enough.
"We?re determined to play a brand of football that the fans are happy with and excited with."

Might be a good start if you actually put your money where your mouth is Rob.

[380]

I don't subscribe to the Herald so can only go by the few lines i can read.

Did i get it right in seeing Mourice Bisetto declare a Jets v Scum derby should be a headline act at Unite Round ?. Can somebody who does subscribe provide the article because if this is true then it is really concerning that our new owners just don't get it. To encourage these games between us and the scum to be played anywhere other than here or Gosford is just plain criminal.

Be nice to see the entire article before going any further but FMD that is a real worry.

[Jeterpool]

I don't subscribe to the Herald so can only go by the few lines i can read.

Did i get it right in seeing Mourice Bisetto declare a Jets v Scum derby should be a headline act at Unite Round ?. Can somebody who does subscribe provide the article because if this is true then it is really concerning that our new owners just don't get it. To encourage these games between us and the scum to be played anywhere other than here or Gosford is just plain criminal.

Be nice to see the entire article before going any further but FMD that is a real worry.

I'll post a summary tomorrow once I'm on a PC

[380]

I'll post a summary tomorrow once I'm on a PC

Thank you

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/nov/26/a-league-men-pfa-survey-doubt-apl-vision-football-australia

PFA player survey summary

[Jeterpool]

I don't subscribe to the Herald so can only go by the few lines i can read.

Did i get it right in seeing Mourice Bisetto declare a Jets v Scum derby should be a headline act at Unite Round ?. Can somebody who does subscribe provide the article because if this is true then it is really concerning that our new owners just don't get it. To encourage these games between us and the scum to be played anywhere other than here or Gosford is just plain criminal.

Be nice to see the entire article before going any further but FMD that is a real worry.

Seems my subscription expired overnight. Recently cancelled it because it was costing too much.

The gyst was he sees F3 Derby as a big deal - said it should have been on Saturday or Sunday, not Friday. That harmed travelling fans. Likes the concept of Unite Round and happy for F3 derby to continue to be there while there are 3 derbies a year. But with an extra team, there will be 26 rounds of home and away at which stage it shouldn't be in Unite Round. It needs to be at home stadiums.

Spoke that soon they'll appoint new CEO. They have lots of business and sports knowledge in the group.

Happy with the inititatives so far being 6 months into the strategy. Specifically Jets in Business and the increased Digital presence.

There was no football related content by my recollection

[380]

Thanks JP much appreciated

I was more than happy to give this new ownership mob my support and wish them well however any club owner who is ok with a derby being played away from either participants home ground is a dead set numpty. Jets v Scum are one of the few games i look forward to each season at home or the away day down at Gosford. Both venues provide a great atmosphere and considering the state of the League that is a rare experience.

I do hope Mourice spoke of only his opinion and not collectively for the ownership group because i just find it very hard to get behind anybody who wants to remove one of what very few great gameday experiences we have. We don't get enough of those in a season to be advocating to throw one away to a round that was born of the ashes of Townsends screw up to sell the GF.

[Jetmaster]

There won't be another Unite Round unless APL and Destination NSW do a new deal.

I think the point that the F3 Derby has been cheapened by the APL is a good one. It is the original derby in an age where we apparently want more derbies, usually used as a curtain raiser to a "bigger" derby.

Why it isn't given its own spot with a weekend evening kickoff to griw the Sydney-centric audience is amazing. Even the fake "original rivalry" gets better billing.

[Jetmaster]

Bad news - Melbourne Victory are close to insolvency....

https://bsky.app/profile/jacksongs.bsky.social/post/3lbtgl7fdts2i

[belchardo]

Jesus

[My2BobsWorth]

It's unbelievable but true. Albo has given the NRL $600 million of taxpayers money. Apparently $290 million for the new PNG team (if they stay away from those nasty Chinese), $250 million for rugby league in the Pacific, and $60 million split between the remaining clubs. Bring on the election, if he lasts that long. Dickhead

[380]

It's unbelievable but true. Albo has given the NRL $600 million of taxpayers money. Apparently $290 million for the new PNG team (if they stay away from those nasty Chinese), $250 million for rugby league in the Pacific, and $60 million split between the remaining clubs. Bring on the election, if he lasts that long. Dickhead

I understand your point its very valid but given the way the APL has been managed can you really blame anybody or any Govt not wanting to tip money in. The APL lacks any accountability for there decision making and handling of finances . If memory serves me correctly weren't elected positions just held almost in complete secrecy ?

A good Govt would at the very least if they were to tip money in have to insist upon new governance.

[Buddha]

I understand your point its very valid but given the way the APL has been managed can you really blame anybody or any Govt not wanting to tip money in. The APL lacks any accountability for there decision making and handling of finances . If memory serves me correctly weren't elected positions just held almost in complete secrecy ?

A good Govt would at the very least if they were to tip money in have to insist upon new governance.

Football in this country is pathetic at lobbying for money. The FA simply expect the government to hand us money

Also, the FA & APL have a proven track record of pissing money up the wall. Why would any government want to invest?

[My2BobsWorth]

V'landys did a con job on the dickhead because he is a fool of the highest order. Every code should be wanting an equal amount from this moron

[380]

I don't think there is any doubt when Stephen Conroy was appointed Chair of the Board at the APL the unspoken hope was he could and would leverage relationships with current sitting colleagues he spent time with whilst a Senator. I must say that was my hope but as time goes by and the game continues to spiral under the APL its clear his priorities lay with his 5 min cameos on Sky as one of the token lefties when a conservatives view is not required.

[Couscous]

Zadkovich is my favourite league villain.

[Jeterpool]

Kisnorbo has left VARctory for an overseas opportunity

[belchardo]

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9778-a-league-supporter-ladder-2024?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3NqNmHflF45DorCnxX HVcrkBFh0A7seQwBxeMBCn9JM_-ZsI1XDmdE23M_aem_k7v96ln2_vZJCqV01GdB8A

Wow, there are some laughable stats in this survey report. Did they include the seagulls in the figures?

[anfield]

Kisnorbo has left VARctory for an overseas opportunity

Would have thought he would have seen the year out considering his last overseas gig.

[380]

This banning of participants on the Clubs Facebook account is really starting to gain some traction eh ?

[plague]

This banning of participants on the Clubs Facebook account is really starting to gain some traction eh ?

It's just Albo making kids safe.

Stop spreading misinformation you right wing nutter.


Did I do it right?

[Bon]

This banning of participants on the Clubs Facebook account is really starting to gain some traction eh ?

I don't know, is it??
(Not being a smart-arse, genuinely not sure what has gone on here but I am aware of some people complaining.. Who has been doing the banning? What was said? etc etc)

[380]

Just numerous people in recent times have been banned from the Jets Facebook site for posting anything critical related to the club. Seems to be getting the attention of local media. Seems those banned weren't even provided a warning or explanation just had there ability to access the Facebook page completely revoked.

Most of the questions appear to be directed to the quality of moderation of the site by a particular individual who i am not familiar with eh.

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/8860341/fan-backlash-as-newcastle-jets-enforce-social-media-ban

[Jetmaster]

Alot of it could be automated....I once got banned on FB for saying "sheeple"...hate speech apparently!

[Jeterpool]

Alot of it could be automated....I once got banned on FB for saying "sheeple"...hate speech apparently!

That's baaaaaaa-d

[ForeverRed]

Alot of it could be automated....I once got banned on FB for saying "sheeple"...hate speech apparently!
We?re you trying to pull the wool over their eyes

[Jetmaster]

We?re you trying to pull the wool over their eyes

Three bags full going by the over reaction.

[belchardo]

I appreciated this.

[plague]

I appreciated this.

I thought ewe would.

[Jeterpool]

You've got no choice. It's rammed down our throats

[Jetmaster]

Players not allowed to be lambasted on Facebook.

[belchardo]

I thought ewe would.

this too.

[belchardo]

quality of the puns is starting to drop.

[Jetmaster]

Sorry, feel a bit sheepish now.

[380]

quality of the puns is starting to drop.

Says ewe

[plague]

quality of the puns is starting to drop.

Geez mate could you have been any more ruda?

[belchardo]

😄

[Jetmaster]

Moving on from "Sheepify"....

Vale Stefan Kamasz. Did alot for football and I had the privilege as a kid to see him and his brothers play in the great Weston Bears teams of the 70s.

Always wondered why he wasn't utilised more by Newcastle football. Maybe he was above it.

[My2BobsWorth]

Read about him in the paper the other day, most famous bloke no one has heard of, did it all
https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news/vale-stefan-kamasz-1949-2025

[Jetmaster]

The sorry story of Troy Hearfield continues.....

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aleague/comments/1i0yjj2/comment/m71v5g0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[Jetmaster]

Poppa drops some truth bombs.....respect!

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8874794/socceroos-coach-popovic-demands-more-from-arzani/?cs=14238

[Jeterpool]

Scotty Neville announced he will retire after this weekend's fixture.

Thought he was a solid, unspectatular right full back for us and we let him go sooner than needed. Signed under GvE v2, he also played under Stabbins back in the day - he left after that season as Miller came in. Scored 3 goals for us - his first came against the Gypos.

Made 43 appearances in his 3 years with us as he did his ACL v Varctory in what was the 1000th A-League men's fixture at the time.

[plague]

So they interview this 'stat's guy' member of the week and not once does he mention plague never being on the podcast.


Does he really even know his history?

Shameful.

[Jeterpool]

So they interview this 'stat's guy' member of the week and not once does he mention plague never being on the podcast.


Does he really even know his history?

Shameful.

It was edited out. I even dropped a subtle plague hint...didn't make the cut.

Also a mention of Griff, Jobe and Stu didn't get there.

[plague]

It was edited out. I even dropped a subtle plague hint...didn't make the cut.

Also a mention of Griff, Jobe and Stu didn't get there.

The sooner Trump annexes Australia and drives out our fake news media the better.

Can't believe they did that to you.

[Jeterpool]

They made me look like a nice person too. Amazing what editing does...

[Jetmaster]

They made me look like a nice person too. Amazing what editing does...

Amazing how far AI has come!

[My2BobsWorth]

The Australian Championship ( National second tier ) start date and format has been announced. Will anyone be interested besides their direct fanbase?
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/43800726/everything-need-know-australian-championship

[Buddha]

The Australian Championship ( National second tier ) start date and format has been announced. Will anyone be interested besides their direct fanbase?
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/43800726/everything-need-know-australian-championship

Yes, absolutely.

[belchardo]

great news.

[Eastwest]

The Australian Championship ( National second tier ) start date and format has been announced. Will anyone be interested besides their direct fanbase?
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/43800726/everything-need-know-australian-championship

Initially. Then normality to resume

[Jetmaster]

Nuh, grew up watching these clubs in the NSL and there is too much football to watch as it is.

[Jeterpool]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/feb/17/macarthur-captain-valere-germain-quits-a-league-for-japan

[belchardo]

Very convenient. Got a point though.

[furns]

Very convenient. Got a point though.
Yep. Because no one else apart from MacArthur have any issues with refereeing.
They whinge about refs in England (at all levels) ffs its not just an Australian problem.

[sapdad]

Very convenient. Got a point though.

At least we all now know who is in the youth thread complaining about referees.Hopefully he can log in from Japan to keep us entertained.

[Jetmaster]

Truthfully, VAR has made refs worse. They are not as sharp and won't make the difficult decisions as they have a safety buffer.

It doesn't help that our league has an "Aldi" version of VAR. Honestly I think the top leagues must have a minimum standards imposed on them (ie minimum number of camera angles and goal line tech compulsory). Don't meet those standards, or can't afford it, no VAR.

Still waiting on Trump's executive order to get rid of the whole thing and go back to pre VAR values and goodness!

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/feb/20/a-league-apl-australian-professional-leagues-nick-garcia-departs

Not sure what to make of this. Seemed like Garcia was making some progress to me. Of course, he could have left of his own volition rather than been punted.

[Couscous]

At least we all now know who is in the youth thread complaining about referees.Hopefully he can log in from Japan to keep us entertained.

I don't know. Are you referring to the Member.

[Jeterpool]

Ummm, Auckland are pretty good, hey

[Jetmaster]

I am concerned about how we will deal with their aerial threat. They really put the pressure on the young Phoenix keeper early on, he started flapping an punching and they scored three goals inside the six yard box.

This will test Noah James.

[Jeterpool]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/8911674/stantons-newcastle-jets-extension-in-doubt/?cs=305

Haven't got access so unsure the reason why the extension is in doubt

[A.J.]

If you have a library account you can read online free through NewsBank

Quick summary of it is that he has asked for 2 assistant managers and an extra physio to bring them in line with other clubs. We are the lowest spending club in the league, and until he gets the staff assurances he won't sign. Told the playing group to prepare that he may not be around next year

[Couscous]

Haven't got access so unsure the reason why the extension is in doubt

Maybe the club's leaders found their courage.

[My2BobsWorth]

Interesting story about Hungarian great Ferenc Puskas and his links to South Melbourne and Australian football.
https://www.espn.com.au/football/story/_/id/37583637/why-does-real-madrid-legend-ferenc-puskas-statue-melbourne
Forgot to add link:blush:

[Jetmaster]

Remember that period clearly and remember Ange at left back. SBS covered the NSL superbly back then and Les and Johnny followed Puskas everywhere, getting smashed together a number of times.

[Mark325]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/8911674/stantons-newcastle-jets-extension-in-doubt/?cs=305

Haven't got access so unsure the reason why the extension is in doubt

Reading this article and the comments reinforced in Gardiners recent article, for me is really alarming in regards to our new owners.

Our assistant coach is leaving end of season, and all things considered, Robs asks are very basic and really should be met

[ForeverRed]

Reading this article and the comments reinforced in Gardiners recent article, for me is really alarming in regards to our new owners.

Our assistant coach is leaving end of season, and all things considered, Robs asks are very basic and really should be met
As a fan I?ve remained extremely patient waiting for good things to happen at the jets, it?s slowly happening, maybe Stanton needs to be a bit more patient and not ruin the hard work done by many others behind the scenes

[My2BobsWorth]

Remember that period clearly and remember Ange at left back. SBS covered the NSL superbly back then and Les and Johnny followed Puskas everywhere, getting smashed together a number of times.

Wow, you HAVE been around a while JM :lol:
I remembered the name, probably Les on SBS, but didn't know anything about him

[StannyCFCJET]

Still not convinced Stanton is worth keeping so not sure we should be that upset if he goes. His game management is still non existent and his subs game is really poor

[380]

Stanton calling the clubs bluff is pretty brave or daft. Bloke is in his first gig as head coach and would be better off just getting on with things be grateful a broke ass club like ours and gave him his shot. Discussing with players about his issues with club management is poor and something IMO would have been better left between him and the club. Players just want to play not be party to indifference's between the coach and management.

Unless he sees himself a shot at the Nix gig he should just pipe up and worry about getting the best out of the team with what rounds remain.

[plague]

Stanton calling the clubs bluff is pretty brave or daft.

Right at this moment he's probably got the most leverage he's ever going to have at this club.


If he's ever gonna use it, has to be now.


If it doesn't work, then he'll be out like he would have been eventually anyway.

I don't mind his strategy.

[My2BobsWorth]

As Donald says, he hasn't got a very good hand, should prove his worth by making the six. I think they are winning games despite him, not because of him

[Mark325]

But the issue isn’t with Stanton itself, it’s the club not willing to fund the bare essentials. If Stanton is out, it’s not cause of a lack of results, he’s already signed the extension, it’s cause the club isn’t willing to do what is needed to give coaches, Stanton or otherwise, as good a chance as possible.

And if Stanton does leave, with these circumstances being very public, the only coaches I can imagine us signing are more Papas and Stanton kinda of guys, dudes getting their first go at a major team, not anyone accomplished.

[My2BobsWorth]

Until there is a statement from head office, he's not signed, and I haven't seen one. Reading between the lines, he doesn't think he will be

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/apr/16/a-league-men-3m-salary-cap-player-spend-arms-race

Salary cap coming. $3m, one outside the cap.

[furns]

But the issue isn’t with Stanton itself, it’s the club not willing to fund the bare essentials. If Stanton is out, it’s not cause of a lack of results, he’s already signed the extension, it’s cause the club isn’t willing to do what is needed to give coaches, Stanton or otherwise, as good a chance as possible.

And if Stanton does leave, with these circumstances being very public, the only coaches I can imagine us signing are more Papas and Stanton kinda of guys, dudes getting their first go at a major team, not anyone accomplished.Talked about it on last weeks podcast, issues around the extra staff not so much the main issue as far as Im led to believe.
More to do around the over-representation of a certain player agent with contracted players. Read David Lowe's Herald article from last week.

[Jetmaster]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/apr/16/a-league-men-3m-salary-cap-player-spend-arms-race

Salary cap coming. $3m, one outside the cap.

This is good in the short term. The only clubs that will be disadvantaged are the 2-3 cashed up ones. Typical union whinging and not thinking big picture about making the league sustainable first and then getting wages moving again.

That $4.8 million average salary spend is scary as there must be at least a a few clubs not even spending the cap.

Con had no time for all those strange marquee exemptions that Sydney wanted brought in - one outside the cap is what is was when the league started.

[plague]

Backwards move in my opinion.

Forcing Perth Glory to only be able to sign one Brian Deane at a time is detrimental to the league as a whole.

Nonsense level just went way down.

Sad.

[My2BobsWorth]

The APL has never ever made a good decision, and I don't think they ever will. Despite the fact that they blew every cent they were given, this means that A league clubs will have next to no chance of competing in the ACL and so the owners have no chance of recouping some of their outlay. Why would you be an owner?

[belchardo]

The APL has never ever made a good decision, and I don't think they ever will. Despite the fact that they blew every cent they were given, this means that A league clubs will have next to no chance of competing in the ACL and so the owners have no chance of recouping some of their outlay. Why would you be an owner?

The article says they've gone from an annual deficit to breaking even this year. I'd say that is down to good decisions.

ACL would still be outside the cap i assume, so extra players or better players could still be signed for those comps with payments weighted more heavily to those fixtures.

[Jeterpool]

Zads has finished up at the Roar.

[380]

Zads has finished up at the Roar.

IMO the jury is still out on Rubes at this level. Two gigs both at bottom feeding clubs with no funds and resources. Has brought on some youngsters at the roar in Brazette, Herrington and Klein.

Roar over the last month have been playing some good football so hopefully Rubes can at the very least get a Asst role somewhere, He's proven like Stanton he can bring along and get some decent football out of young players just making there way in the League.

[Alton]

IMO the jury is still out on Rubes at this level. Two gigs both at bottom feeding clubs with no funds and resources. Has brought on some youngsters at the roar in Brazette, Herrington and Klein.

Roar over the last month have been playing some good football so hopefully Rubes can at the very least get a Asst role somewhere, He's proven like Stanton he can bring along and get some decent football out of young players just making there way in the League.

A long way off as a head coach, assistant best

[Jeterpool]

For those playing transfer games at home - here is the Transfermarkt list of players with expiring contracts.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/a-league-men/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/AUS1/jahr/2025/land_id/0/ausrichtung/alle/spielerposition_id/alle/altersklasse/alle/plus/1

[ForeverRed]

For those playing transfer games at home - here is the Transfermarkt list of players with expiring contracts.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/a-league-men/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/AUS1/jahr/2025/land_id/0/ausrichtung/alle/spielerposition_id/alle/altersklasse/alle/plus/1
Why is Clayton Taylor on there