Daily Australian News Thread

[Bremsstrahlung]

Just on an aside. Regularly do the drive between western Sydney and Newcastle and drive past the Wanderers base.
Not gonna lie, it’s actually rather impressive what they have put together since they created football.
Having watched the Amazon series on Spurs and city, and previously Liverpool’s, their set up is a step towards that.
They’d have about 8 pitches. They have a grandstand along one of them similar to Olympics, and a club base. The field all look in top condition.
From the outside just looks like a good set up.

Anywho. Back to hating them. Wankerers!

[The Dunster]

The club can't simply stop paying Ibini. They will have to take it to arbitration / Fair Work Australia.
The PFA probably wouldn't want to go down this path given Ibini appears to be in breach not the club based on what is being reported.
Given that Ibini hasn't dragged the club to the Fair Work Ombudsman for a ruling suggests he doesn't have a clue what to do or is getting really poor advice.

[StannyCFCJET]

I don't see anybody in our squad at present who you would consider a walk up starting #10.

IMO plenty has been going on behind the scenes. Finer details of new investment and a couple of imports with the details of those imports being kept very close to managements chest. One of those being a genuine # 10 if you are to believe Griff just over a week ago when he spoke about needing two imports at the attacking end of the park

I'm hopeful or delusional.

Loads of silence from Lawrie atm. Id say that's a good thing

[prawnhead]

So, Saturday was reported a while back as the date new owners would be announced. Wonder if it will happen.

No it won’t.

[Ghost of Plague]

Loads of silence from Lawrie atm. Id say that's a good thing

The gypos silence is just him generally taking a breath between servings of horseshit.
We are lucky if theres one sucker lined up to take over this sorry ass club. And ill back it at whatever price that they are full of shit too.

[Ghost of Plague]

Oh for the good old days where people like the member, Sanchez, qman and plague spent every waking breath educating you people that this club has always sucked, currently sucks and will continue to suck for the rest of eternity.
The unfounded hope and optimism on here these days is appalling. Whatever did this club do to make you think any sort of better days were ahead?
We got beat in grand final because the TV broke and you people think there's somehow a glorious new dawn coming.

Shameful indeed.

[Hunter403]

Oh for the good old days where people like the member, Sanchez, qman and plague spent every waking breath educating you people that this club has always sucked, currently sucks and will continue to suck for the rest of eternity.
The unfounded hope and optimism on here these days is appalling. Whatever did this club do to make you think any sort of better days were ahead?
We got beat in grand final because the TV broke and you people think there's somehow a glorious new dawn coming.

Shameful indeed.

as dirty as it makes me feel...i miss the member

[ForeverRed]

Just heard new jets owners have walked, faaaark

[Grimario]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/a-league-clubs-to-bail-out-jets-after-mooted-ownership-group-pulls-out-20201210-p56mdg.html


The immediate future of the Newcastle Jets is again in limbo after a prospective ownership group in advanced talks with the A-League club pulled out of the running.

Sources with knowledge of the situation said the investors had been in a period of exclusive negotiations and due diligence with Football Federation Australia, which expired on Sunday.

The consortium – which was being fronted by prominent player agent Buddy Farah, and is believed to have included several locally-based businessmen – then told the Jets and FFA on Monday they were formally withdrawing their interest after the club was unable to produce audited financial accounts for the last two years.

Sources have told the Herald that some elements of the FFA board felt the best course of action this season was to pull the club's licence from absentee chairman Martin Lee and withdraw the Jets from the A-League, with a view to bringing the club back in the following season with a new owner and on a more stable footing.

Some club executives also share that position, but high-level league sources have confirmed the Jets would be saved and that their participation in the forthcoming season was not in doubt.

The clubs see the Hunter region as a football hotbed and a vital market for A-League and W-League, and the Jets as a team with enormous potential that can be realised with the right ownership.

However, the Jets are believed to be owing several million dollars in debt to creditors – including the operators of their home ground, McDonald Jones Stadium – which could complicate any licence handover.

While other investors are still believed to be in the mix, a sale is unlikely to be completed before the start of the new season on December 27 – which means Newcastle will begin the next A-League campaign mired in off-field turmoil, with no permanent coach in place and with several vacant spots in their playing squad yet to be filled.

It appears other A-League club owners will have to bankroll the club for an interim period until new owners are found for the Jets, through a mooted "safety net" fund which was first reported by the Herald in August.

Western Sydney Wanderers chairman Paul Lederer – the head of the Australian Professional Football Clubs Association – told the Herald in October that owners had committed to bailing out financially-stricken clubs like the Jets, and again repeated that pledge in a separate interview with SBS last week.

Farah and Jets chief executive Lawrie McKinna declined to comment, while an FFA spokesperson said discussions were ongoing with "a number of prospective buyers".

McKinna revealed earlier this year that Lee, the Chinese lighting magnate who bought the team in 2016, had not put any funds into the club since October 2019.

Key players including Bernie Ibini and Steven Ugarkovic have also been agitating for a release from their contracts due to the uncertainty surrounding Newcastle's future.

As things stand, the A-League is still the legal responsibility of FFA, but the governing body has no financial capacity to run the Jets as it has done previously for clubs which have fallen on hard times.

But the long-awaited legal ratification of the professional leagues from the governing body could come as soon as next week, and that would pave the way for other club owners to bail out the Jets in the short term.

"A change of ownership is clearly needed to revitalise the club and put it on a sound footing again and continue their important role in the Northern NSW community and we are hoping to have a new owner for the Newcastle Jets very soon," an FFA spokesperson said.

[380]

" The consortium – which was being fronted by prominent player agent Buddy Farah, and is believed to have included several locally-based businessmen – then told the Jets and FFA on Monday they were formally withdrawing their interest after the club was unable to produce audited financial accounts for the last two years. "


This quote above just dumbfounds me at a time you are endeavoring to attract new investment.

Over it.

[StannyCFCJET]

What a ****ing joke. There's no defending the club with this and seems like Lawrie who I love has dropped the ball

[evolution]

Yeah I’ll be interested to see Lawrie’s spin on this one.

[lquiquer]

Bring back the Member and Mark Jones

[sammydog]

Unable to produce financial audits........thats the jets highjacking their own takeover. But its no wonder we are in trouble with that level of financial scrutiny.

Ne excusing this one, and if the club does have to sit out this season, I fear for those of use that paid up for seats ever seeing our money.

[belchardo]

I see the "new normal" for the jets is the same as the "old normal"...

[Ghost of Plague]

Well excuse me whilst I stand here completely shocked and dismayed that our full of shit ceo has failed to seal the deal between our full of shit owner and a bunch of pretend full of shit assholes.
Seriously, mckinna has so many make believe friends even M.Night Shyamalan is sitting back thinking its all a bit much.
So we aren't producing accounts? I can obviously understand why that would be a deal breaker and surely we can't blame the ceo for that I mean how would he have known that its not like its his job to produce that shit.
To be fair what sort of people want to buy a business by looking at its financial position? Real business people buy stuff based on kit colours and wacky pranks on social media.
I renewed my season tickets tonight just to dare these ingrate ****s to steal my cash. Go on gypo I ****ing dare you.
Broke ass club run by gypos merry Christmas all.

[boz-monaut]

seriously, how many clubs in NNSWFF wouldn't be able to produce audit reports from the past few years?

if any of them can't, I'd be disgusted that they were allowed to field teams in under 6s

yet the Jerks are run this poorly

well done Agent McKinna, you can go back to the Coast now

and if he, as CEO, isn't responsible for this utter debacle, then who the hemorrhaging **** is?

[380]

So where do i find the clubs Go Fund Me page so we can donate enough money to pay for the Diesel for the Jets bus to get home from Coffs ?.

[Thomas477]

I miss Middleby. At least his incompetence was due to being incompetent, McKinna is just obviously ****ing us over now.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Why aren’t we producing the audits?
We been doing some dodgy shit? Or are we just incompetent?

[Frodo]

Clearly Lawrie was too busy with more important issues, like making sure Ibini didn't leave us and do some real damage to the team for next year.

We can play without a coach, without an owner, maybe even without a licence if things keep going.... But we sure as shit can't play without Bernie Ibini!

[380]

Clearly Lawrie was too busy with more important issues, like making sure Ibini didn't leave us and do some real damage to the team for next year.

We can play without a coach, without an owner, maybe even without a licence if things keep going.... But we sure as shit can't play without Bernie Ibini!

Been saving that one up for the right moment eh

[pv4]

What a ****ing joke. There's no defending the club with this and seems like Lawrie who I love has dropped the ball

Far out, Stanny has spoken poorly of both Ibini & Lawrie. This truly is the end times.

[pv4]

I miss Middleby. At least his incompetence was due to being incompetent, McKinna is just obviously ****ing us over now.

:rof::oops:

[pv4]

To be fair what sort of people want to buy a business by looking at its financial position? Real business people buy stuff based on kit colours and wacky pranks on social media.

Audit Report 2018-2020:
1. Green kits would not sell

[Frodo]

Been saving that one up for the right moment eh

I couldn't think of anything useful to add so went with sarcasm instead. I'm happy with my choice.


My actual thoughts are that Lawrie is most pleased with how this is unfolding. I reckon he doesn't care one bit if we fold.

[380]

The merger of the Jets with the Gypo's is ever so closer and a new license sold to either the Wolves or the ACT.

[westjet]

Anyone know the legality of this all being a ploy by the prospective owners - pull out of deal, FFA/Clubs take licence off Lee due to breaches and then prospective owners come back and pay a lower fee to the to FFA/Clubs that covers the outstanding money owed and not have to pay Lee whatever he wants - eg pay 5 mil to pay off debts instead of 9mil to Lee and still have to pay off creditors?

[380]

Anyone know the legality of this all being a ploy by the prospective owners - pull out of deal, FFA/Clubs take licence off Lee due to breaches and then prospective owners come back and pay a lower fee to the to FFA/Clubs that covers the outstanding money owed and not have to pay Lee whatever he wants - eg pay 5 mil to pay off debts instead of 9mil to Lee and still have to pay off creditors?

Thats what i was thinking, Holding out til the acquisition price is the value of the debt only and nothing else.

[Ghost of Plague]

Anyone know the legality of this all being a ploy by the prospective owners - pull out of deal, FFA/Clubs take licence off Lee due to breaches and then prospective owners come back and pay a lower fee to the to FFA/Clubs that covers the outstanding money owed and not have to pay Lee whatever he wants - eg pay 5 mil to pay off debts instead of 9mil to Lee and still have to pay off creditors?

Yes that's exactly what normal smart business people do. Sadly, the gypo ceo only knows pretend business people so that's why you all get dragged along this bullshit every time.

[StannyCFCJET]

Lawrie claiming we do have all the records and the club has done nothing wrong, So not sure what to believe. Hopefully we get an explanation

[Grimario]

Lawrie claiming we do have all the records and the club has done nothing wrong, So not sure what to believe. Hopefully we get an explanation

If Lawrie's lips were moving when he said it, I think it's pretty obvious what you should believe.

[boz-monaut]

the records exist but they're just a wad of post it notes that Lawrie kept in the third drawer of an old filing cabinet

[The Dunster]

It's par for the course in Newcastle professional sport. It doesn't matter what the code or game is Newcastle always finds a way to fcuk it up be it intentional or not.
This has been the case for a very long time. I'm not sure why but it appears that it's no accident given the consistency over the past 50 years or more,

[Jeterpool]

I wonder how true this point about the club's accounts are...one of the positions the club has maintained on staff is a finance manager.

Maybe it's something the potential owners have used to deflect attention from them actually pulling the pin for other reasons?

[Alton]

Are we going to exist? Who wants us? Do we turn to NNSWF?

[The Hacker]

In any other world if you sell a business with 5mil in debt the business is worth zero and if you pay out the debt it’s all yours. Not sure who would then tip on another 4 million. I think the buyer is pulling to put pressure on FFA

[Ghost of Plague]

Maybe it's something the potential owners have used to deflect attention from them actually pulling the pin for other reasons?

If the product was worth the price we'd have a bidding war.
When people continually walk away and more importantly never actually even exist you need to point the finger squarely at the people asking too much for their half chewed bag of dicks of a club.
New commission needs to grow a pair and just take the club back and give it away to some real live people. Any percieved threat that Lee will lawyer up to fight it are absurd. He won't pay the tea lady hows he gonna spring for a legal fight he knows he can't win especially when 'winning' means you get to keep the ****ing Newcastle Jets.

The only true outcome is for this to be a long play by Donald Trump to start a trade war with the Chinese, purposely lose the election by killing a quarter million potential American bidders and swoop in to secure the Jets dirt cheap.

I for one welcome Ivanka as our new CEO. Lord knows she's already done a better job than that gypo.

[Frodo]

Surely now there can't be any people with a single iota of faith in Lawrie as CEO? He's been half-arseing his way through this job from the start and now there's a solid chance we might not have a club to support for a few years if things keep going down the same path.

We all know I dislike the bloke, and I would love to just sit here and insult him until the end of days, but at what point do we organise and go and tell the guy to **** right off before he destroys us?

[The Dunster]

I wouldn't be surprised if authorities raided Lawries house and discovered 10,000 Jet shaped hats.

[The Hacker]

[QUOTE=Ghost of Plague;243495]If the product was worth the price we'd have a bidding war.
When people continually walk away and more importantly never actually even exist you need to point the finger squarely at the people asking too much for their half chewed bag of dicks of a club.

The use of ‘bag of dicks’ was outstanding in the Ghost’s post

[380]

If the product was worth the price we'd have a bidding war.
When people continually walk away and more importantly never actually even exist you need to point the finger squarely at the people asking too much for their half chewed bag of dicks of a club.
New commission needs to grow a pair and just take the club back and give it away to some real live people. Any percieved threat that Lee will lawyer up to fight it are absurd. He won't pay the tea lady hows he gonna spring for a legal fight he knows he can't win especially when 'winning' means you get to keep the ****ing Newcastle Jets.

The only true outcome is for this to be a long play by Donald Trump to start a trade war with the Chinese, purposely lose the election by killing a quarter million potential American bidders and swoop in to secure the Jets dirt cheap.

I for one welcome Ivanka as our new CEO. Lord knows she's already done a better job than that gypo.

I bet the member wishes he was still around to take ownership over such a great post.

[Frodo]

I wouldn't be surprised if authorities raided Lawries house and discovered 10,000 Jet shaped hats.

If he had those the club would be financially viable. He could afford to buy the club himself twice over.

[My2BobsWorth]

Why is no other media running with this, something smells

[evolution]

Why is no other media running with this, something smells

I may have missed it but it’s odd there’s no Herald article covering it.

[Jetmaster]

I may have missed it but it’s odd there’s no Herald article covering it.

Thinking this all day....something strange.

Will talk to Membah and Plague on Parler to get the real goss.

[mic22]

Herald
https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/7052115/new-flight-plan-jets-restart-talks-after-ownership-group-pulls-pin/?cs=7580

[Negative Police]

Herald
https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/7052115/new-flight-plan-jets-restart-talks-after-ownership-group-pulls-pin/?cs=7580

part of


JETS chief executive Lawrie McKinna has reopened talks with two potential buyers and insists the embattled club has the player and financial resources to thrive in the A-League.

With the Jets' season opener against the Mariners less than three weeks away, the ownership issues are no closer to being resolved after a group fronted by prominent player agent Buddy Farah withdrew from negotiations this week.


The investors had been in a period of exclusive negotiations and the transfer of the club from Martin Lee to the new group was expected to be finalised by Monday - opening the way for the Jets to sign a new coach and recruit players.

"We have reopened talks with two potential buyers who were engaged before," Mckinna said. "It's not all doom and gloom. The club will be in the competition next season. Negotiations were well down the track before the other guys went into the exclusivity period.

"It will take time but a lot of the stuff has already been done. They were on the radar before we went into exclusivity. We have zoom conferences with FFA at the beginning of next week. I am pushing hard with that because the other consortium pulled out at late notice."

[Frodo]

part of

Honestly, we really need to get this parasite out of our club quickly if we want to have any chance of surviving. I'm all for enjoying the shit show that is and always has been the Newcastle Jerks, but he's taking it too far now.

We really better start hoping the other clubs love our shenanigans enough to warrant buying the licence back from Mr Lee, cause we are in huge debts and the FFA/other teams can't just keep the club going without paying most of those debts first.

[Jetmaster]

Problem would be solved if the license was stripped.

No money for over year? If this was a local consortium they'd be long gone.

[The Hacker]

Problem would be solved if the license was stripped.

No money for over year? If this was a local consortium they'd be long gone.

This I agree with. New buyer pays out debt. License is theirs

[Frodo]

Problem would be solved if the license was stripped.

No money for over year? If this was a local consortium they'd be long gone.

If they strip the licence we'd need to find somewhere else to play. Cause they owe $4 million or something to the stadium. There's no way they let a new Jets owner play out of their stadium without the debt paid.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Wasn’t the no money for 12 months clarified to mean that he made a big lump sum payment to cover the seasons spending.

I’m no lawyer but I feel like any failure to pay wages would result in warnings and eventual stripping of licence. We’ve all heard the “we’ve got no money coming in” line, but as long as he’s paying those wages and the bare minimum, he’s under no obligation to spend more right?

Idk. I feel like everything’s not adding up.

Lee sells to a buyer.
Lee hangs on, and funds the season with bare minimum and nobody can do anything about it.
Lee can’t make payments and the league takes over the licence and funds/funds a buyer
Lee can’t make payments and we fold.

Is there any other option here?

[StannyCFCJET]

Wasn’t the no money for 12 months clarified to mean that he made a big lump sum payment to cover the seasons spending.

I’m no lawyer but I feel like any failure to pay wages would result in warnings and eventual stripping of licence. We’ve all heard the “we’ve got no money coming in” line, but as long as he’s paying those wages and the bare minimum, he’s under no obligation to spend more right?

Idk. I feel like everything’s not adding up.

Lee sells to a buyer.
Lee hangs on, and funds the season with bare minimum and nobody can do anything about it.
Lee can’t make payments and the league takes over the licence and funds/funds a buyer
Lee can’t make payments and we fold.

Is there any other option here?

All the wages are up to date same with super as of a few weeks ago as the club said

[Jetmaster]

Fox money pays wages so that bit is fine.

[mic22]

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[My2BobsWorth]

I can think of a few good reasons why you would not show buyers your financial records, so I'll just sit and wait and hope that they know what they're doin

[380]

I can think of a few good reasons why you would not show buyers your financial records, so I'll just sit and wait and hope that they know what they're doin

I don't think any potential buyer who would have amassed enough money in there professional life to acquire a Football team who would not be diligent enough to insist upon viewing them.

Just how dumb ass of a buyer are you waiting for ?.

[Retro Jet]

1-1.
We're so good at drawing we should start art classes...

[My2BobsWorth]

I don't think any potential buyer who would have amassed enough money in there professional life to acquire a Football team who would not be diligent enough to insist upon viewing them.

Just how dumb ass of a buyer are you waiting for ?.

My understanding is, the financial records are there for viewing for legit buyers who can produce their own financial records, which have to show that they are not the dodgy brothers, you seem to be willing to let anyone in

[380]

A period of exclusivity was entered into, I would say somebody thought they were legit enough eh ?.

[Frodo]

A period of exclusivity was entered into, I would say somebody thought they were legit enough eh ?.

Nah, Lawrie did nothing wrong, as he always has, and is trying to save us from being purchased by an owner who will run out of funds in a few years and slowly stop paying the bills until we begin to crumble.....





Again....

[My2BobsWorth]

Lorry has never sold us to anyone shorty

[380]

Nah, Lawrie did nothing wrong, as he always has, and is trying to save us from being purchased by an owner who will run out of funds in a few years and slowly stop paying the bills until we begin to crumble.....





Again....

I just find it bizarre anybody could or would suggest the club held back available information , We don't have that luxury.

[Frodo]

Lorry has never sold us to anyone shorty

When you learn how to read posts properly, i'll reply back to you with my usual brilliance and perfection. Until then, good day to you sir/madam.

[Frodo]

I just find it bizarre anybody could or would suggest the club held back available information , We don't have that luxury.

We probably haven't had anyone doing the books for the last few years knowing this place, or they let the person in charge go and didn't ask them where everything was kept?

[Ghost of Plague]

My understanding is, the financial records are there for viewing for legit buyers who can produce their own financial records, which have to show that they are not the dodgy brothers, you seem to be willing to let anyone in

Your understanding is wrong.
And that's ok.
But you're wrong.

The FFA (or new commission) is the only body with any interest in where the money is coming from. The basic courtesy of providing financials is step one of many in doing a deal. If the Jets didn't produce them (which is a disputed claim to be fair....although the bloke disputing it is full of shit in my opinion), anyway if the Jets gave them over and the deal folded then that's business. If the agreement was that the Jets produce them and they haven't, well that's just the Jets isnt it.
Understand though, its not completely rare that businesses get brought and sold where audited financials aren't required. This is usually where businesses are very young or have very valuable IP (in the eyes of the seller). But in pretty much all of these transactions any ongoing contracts, debt and disputes remain with the seller. If youre taking on debt with a going concern you get audited financials.
The seller (Lee) just wants his cheque. He would give zero ****s where it comes from.

[skullboy]

I just find it bizarre anybody could or would suggest the club held back available information , We don't have that luxury.

Maybe a CEO who knows he may well be unemployed as soon as the sale goes through might try to delay the process.

[380]

Maybe a CEO who knows he may well be unemployed as soon as the sale goes through might try to delay the process.

Which if that were fact says more about the individuals than the actual process doesn't it.

I am tipping that the interested party in the first couple of months of this year at $8mil was in fact Gerry Ryan. Twice knocked back in fact if the article is to be believed.

[Jetmaster]

How much do we think Ledman is involved with this? For all we know they might be being right ***** and just knocking things back at a whim with Lawrie the bug on the windshield trying to explain. You would think though he would quit and blow the whistle at some stage if that was the case.

[The Hacker]

Today’s Herald

NEWCASTLE Jets CEO Lawrie McKinna has assured long-suffering fans "we'll get through it" as the search continues for a new owner to keep the club afloat.

Chinese businessman Martin Lee, who has bankrolled the Jets since June, 2016, has spent the past two years trying to offload the franchise that has drained an estimated $15 million from his coffers.

Negotiations with a number of interested parties have broken down, leaving the Jets facing a crisis that has evoked a sense of deja vu among their supporters.

With less than three weeks before the season kick-off, the Jets have a stopgap coach, an incomplete roster, liabilities that are reportedly in the millions, and an owner who McKinna revealed in October has "not given us one penny, for more than a year".


It hardly augurs well for the season ahead, but McKinna was optimistic the Novocastrian faithful would not abandon their team in its hour of need.

"It's not ideal, but we'll get through it," McKinna said.

Everyone at the club is still working hard to make sure we put the best possible team on the pitch, in the circumstances.

"Times like these are when you need the support."

Times like these are when you need the support.

LAWRIE McKINNA
The Scotsman pointed to the club he has followed all his life, Rangers FC, as an example oif what fanpower can achieve.

"If you remember, about eight or nine years ago, Rangers were relegated from the [Scottish] Premier League to the fourth division [after they were declared insolvent]," he said.

"The first home game they had in the fourth division, they had 48,000 fans turn up. The fans stuck by the club."

Newcastle had about 10,400 members last season, which was severely disrupted by coronavirus restrictions.

McKinna expected all A-League clubs were likely to be a "wee bit down" on last season's numbers but felt Newcastle's early schedule would be a drawcard.

They open their campaign against derby rivals Central Coast in Gosford on December 31, a game that Jets members can attend for free.

Round two will be a grudge match between Newcastle and Western Sydney Wanderers - the team who recently poached Jets coach Carl Robinson. In addition, the Jets play Wellington Phonix in a trial match at McDonald Jones Stadium on Saturday that is a members-only event.

"We've already had 600 responses, whereas in previous seasons we might have had 400 or 500," McKinna said.

"So that's encouraging. If you're looking for a good Christmas present, sign up for a membership. If you get one this week, you can get in to the Wellington game."

Football Federation Australia officials, who have been trying to broker a deal on Lee's behalf, said on Monday they were still "in discussions with a number of prospective buyers".

If they are unable to find a suitable replacement, it has been reported that the Australian Professional Football Clubs Association - the body representing A-League clubs' owners - will consider providing the Jets with a financial safety net.

It is understood the plan would be to support Newcastle for up to 12 months, while continuing to search for a long-term solution.

In their statement on Monday, FFA said they were "hoping to have a new owner for the Newcastle Jets very soon".

But they also explained that a "thorough due diligence process" would be required.

"The end objective is to bring stability and future sustainability to the Jets, who are a very important part of the A-League competition with a proud history and a tremendous fan base," FFA said.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I know it’s just all for the media but, seriously, I doubt there are too many regions they could expand to and have the same level of support Newcastle Jets do.
Look at Wanderers, packed out stadiums, acl, few bad seasons and their number are low.
Meanwhile, we’ve had one successful season in the last what 10 years? Still getting 10,000 (last year) members.
So FFA are correct when they refer to the tremendous fan base.

As an aside, if we are still millions in debt to the stadium peeps, why do they keep letting us use it?

[380]

I know it’s just all for the media but, seriously, I doubt there are too many regions they could expand to and have the same level of support Newcastle Jets do.
Look at Wanderers, packed out stadiums, acl, few bad seasons and their number are low.
Meanwhile, we’ve had one successful season in the last what 10 years? Still getting 10,000 (last year) members.
So FFA are correct when they refer to the tremendous fan base.

As an aside, if we are still millions in debt to the stadium peeps, why do they keep letting us use it?

Was wondering this point myself just the other day and was trying to draw some similarities between what happened to Force India in F1 now known as Racing Point.

If creditors called in the debt that could not be paid surely that set of circumstances would trigger the FFA or FA whatstherename to remove Lee and then seek a new buyer for the total sum of the debt only.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Nobody from the Jets turned up to the Launch in Sydney.
That wasnt a launch.
But run by fox, as a launch.
And referred to by Kruse as a launch.
But it wasn’t a launch.

[My2BobsWorth]

When you learn how to read posts properly, i'll reply back to you with my usual brilliance and perfection. Until then, good day to you sir/madam.

My humble apologies Mr Frodo, I think I was drunk, as usual

[My2BobsWorth]

Your understanding is wrong.
And that's ok.
But you're wrong.

The FFA (or new commission) is the only body with any interest in where the money is coming from. The basic courtesy of providing financials is step one of many in doing a deal. If the Jets didn't produce them (which is a disputed claim to be fair....although the bloke disputing it is full of shit in my opinion), anyway if the Jets gave them over and the deal folded then that's business. If the agreement was that the Jets produce them and they haven't, well that's just the Jets isnt it.
Understand though, its not completely rare that businesses get brought and sold where audited financials aren't required. This is usually where businesses are very young or have very valuable IP (in the eyes of the seller). But in pretty much all of these transactions any ongoing contracts, debt and disputes remain with the seller. If youre taking on debt with a going concern you get audited financials.
The seller (Lee) just wants his cheque. He would give zero ****s where it comes from.

We are talking about a football club not a pie shop.
It's not the first payment they will be checking, this is ongoing
You say I'm wrong but you have no idea what the hell is going on
Just like the rest of us, I'm only speculating

[Grimario]

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/ffa-poised-to-pull-a-league-licence-of-renegade-newcastle-jets-chief-lee

[A.J.]

So, theoretically, could a new owner come in, pay the debts owed and a smaller than usual licence fee (because the other clubs just want us off their hands) and pick us up?

[Ghost of Plague]

We are talking about a football club not a pie shop.
It's not the first payment they will be checking, this is ongoing
You say I'm wrong but you have no idea what the hell is going on
Just like the rest of us, I'm only speculating

Thank you for registering your interest in a post from ghost of plague.
I will leave all pie related discussion to you, as i can only assume you have the experience and knowledge over me there.
As far as the other stuff is concerned thats cool too. I wish you all the best when selling your next business, be it pie, or non pie related.
Good day.

[The Dunster]

None of this would ever have happened if they only served full strength beer at home games.

[belchardo]

whoa, just saw an ad for the a-league on fox.

lucky i was sitting down.

[belchardo]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/12/18/the-a-league-has-a-new-look-but-can-it-win-back-some-old-fans/

Mike Tuckerman article from the roar

[belchardo]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/12/17/wanderers-confirm-ziggy-gordon-signing-bernie-ibini-reportedly-set-to-join-him-at-bankwest-stadium/

Ibini heading to wanderers. I'm shocked.

Ziggy Gordon too - here's his parting words to CCM - “I’m a winner and I’ll never apologise for it. I want to be among other winners,”

[mic22]

Ziggy Gordon too - here's his parting words to CCM - “I’m a winner and I’ll never apologise for it. I want to be among other winners,”

WOW... sounds like he's Michel Jordan.
He obviously didn't know he was a winner when he signed for CCM... must have been a recent revelation 🤣
Why don't footballers THINK, even just a little bit, before making their statements...

[The Dunster]

WOW... sounds like he's Michel Jordan.
He obviously didn't know he was a winner when he signed for CCM... must have been a recent revelation 🤣
Why don't footballers THINK, even just a little bit, before making their statements...

He's Scottish with red hair - it's an open and shut case with that much evidence stacked against him.

[turbojetfireV8]

I'm convinced the welchman must have signed Gordon sight unseen, he played like a busted ass last season for the sCCuM, not sure we'd even be desperate enough to sign him...

[Couscous]

Ibini's starting for the Wanderers today: https://twitter.com/wswanderersfc/status/1340111544118439937?s=19

[380]

Ibini who ?. Never of heard of the bloke ?.

Must be a nobody.

There is a Princess Ibini who goes ok in Women's football. Does she have a sister ?.

[The Dunster]

Ibini's starting for the Wanderers today: https://twitter.com/wswanderersfc/status/1340111544118439937?s=19

That was a quick recovery. Those online doctors know their stuff.

[My2BobsWorth]

Can't have 3 grubs at a club. Wanderers are farkt

[belchardo]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/a-league-season-in-disarray-amid-northern-beaches-covid-cluster-20201220-p56p3s.html

FFA flagging postponing matches.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Fixtures being rescheduled so NSW teams play eachother and outside nsw play eachother.

Well done. Didn’t expect a plan b haha

[Frodo]

I love how no one seems to care that the league's major sponsor this year will be Bunnings. I do like that they are embracing our leagues meme value rather more tho, probably the only reason we are relevant worldwide is the silly nonsense that goes on each month. Might as well run with it.

[pv4]

I love how no one seems to care that the league's major sponsor this year will be Bunnings. I do like that they are embracing our leagues meme value rather more tho, probably the only reason we are relevant worldwide is the silly nonsense that goes on each month. Might as well run with it.

Bruh if it gets me a discount at bunnings I'll tattoo my membership number on my forehead.

How dare we have a sponsor actually useful for heaps of the support base.

[Frodo]

Bruh if it gets me a discount at bunnings I'll tattoo my membership number on my forehead.

How dare we have a sponsor actually useful for heaps of the support base.

I feel like I touched a nerve here by accident. Is there a big Newcastle Bunnings supporters group that I don't know about, haha.

I don't think I've ever gotten a discount at any major sponsor of the A League since I became a member, I didn't even know that was a thing. Have you all gotten free Hyundai's and I wasn't told? Cause I don't really care about a free Hyundai, but I'm still offended no one told me.


I do like the game day sponsorship where we get a free big Mac everytime we win a home game. It'll be a good way to lose some weight waiting for it to happen over the year at least.

[mic22]

Can't see anything wrong with Bunnings tbh.
I actually think it's pretty good.

There was a $500 discount on new Hyundays at some stage, or something like that - not something you would use every day, but it was there.

[mic22]

I'd be more concerned about this (Sydney Herald:


The Central Coast Mariners have distanced themselves from a mooted investor and undischarged bankrupt who claims to have ownership links to a former La Liga club, saying he has failed to show "real commitment" to buying the club.

Sydney businessman Abdul Helou, who claims to be a part-owner of Spanish Segunda Division outfit Rayo Vallecano, has previously declared his interest in purchasing the A-League club from current chairman Mike Charlesworth.

The Mariners have distanced themselves from mooted owner Abdul Helou.

On Wednesday, Helou gave a wide-ranging interview to SBS – which the Mariners say violated a non-disclosure agreement he signed with the club – claiming he was in the "final stages" of the takeover, that he had already invested "transition monies", and that he was considering mass changes to the squad, coaching staff, and administration and leadership of the club in the season after next.

The Mariners issued an almost immediate rebuttal in a statement, dismissing Helou's "false claims" that his investment proposal had advanced to such a stage.

Sydney businessman Abdul Helou claimed to be on the cusp of buying the Mariners.

Sources close to the situation indicate that while Helou has claimed to have paid the Mariners a deposit, the money was not received by the club, an allegation denied by Helou. The Mariners have since ordered Helou to stop speaking publicly about the subject and obey the NDA he signed, according to the sources.

The Mariners have also been unable to uncover any definitive proof that Helou is involved with Rayo Vallecano, who have spent most of the past decade bouncing between Spain's top two tiers.

According to Australian Financial Security Authority records, Helou was declared bankrupt in September 2020.

Chief executive Shaun Mielekamp said: "Helou has not been in contact with Football Australia regarding the due diligence process that is a necessary requirement of ownership and has failed to show any real commitment to potential investment aside from speaking to media.

"The club has ensured that the sale process is undertaken in a professional and diligent manner to find the right investment model for the club's long-term growth and progress.

"This process involves non-disclosure agreements being adhered to and thorough due diligence checks being completed. It is important that all potential investors for the club understand the importance of the professionalism and processes required to progress discussions on the future of the club."

Rayo Vallecano has spent most of the last decade bouncing between Spain's top two divisions. Pictured left is ex-Melbourne Victory midfielder Raul Baena, who once played for them.

Helou insisted he had submitted due diligence documentation to Football Australia and paid a deposit to the Mariners.

"My lawyers are all across it. We definitely have paid a deposit, I've got receipts to prove it. They have received a deposit, or their lawyers have at the very least," he told the Herald.

Helou said his interview with SBS was a "friendly chat" that was supposed to be off the record, and that he had since "put in place a full PR team to clean it all up, because it's doing more damage than good."

"Shaun's ultimate worry is it's going to distract players and staff away from the season, because I'll be stepping in after the season starts – we always knew that because of the time and the process it takes. It's taken time but my lawyers are doing their thing," he said.

"I'm just going to push on, regardless of what anyone says. One crappy article is not going to stop me from doing what I need to do. If Charlesworth and Central Coast change their minds, there are three other [A-League] clubs that are knocking on my door, 'please buy us'. If it doesn't happen with one, I'll go to the next."

Asked if one of those clubs was the ownerless Newcastle Jets, he said: "Absolutely. Lawrie McKinna and I are close."

Helou did not deny a bankruptcy claim had been filed against him but said he was challenging it in court. "That was a false bankruptcy claim. That will eventually be quashed," he said.

As for his links to Rayo Vallecano, Helou said he did not own part of the club itself but its associated property, through a holding company in Spain. "The company that owns the property, I bought shares in them," he said.

"When I say I own Rayo Vallecano, I own the infrastructure and the fiscal entities behind it. Am I involved in the club day-to-day? No. Am I sitting on the board? No. Am I involved with the decision-making? No, but I've got a larger property play in Spain."

Rayo Vallecano has not responded to requests to verify Helou's claims.

Helou also took the time on Wednesday to respond to comments from Mariners fans on Facebook in a thread under the club's statement, which was posted on the social media platform. "Tell me again how you know me? My financial situation?" he said to one supporter.

The Mariners are one of several A-League clubs to have entertained sale offers this year. In February, Perth Glory were on the brink of a sale to the London Football Exchange, a UK-based blockchain company that intended to set up a City Football Group-style network of clubs around the world using cryptocurrency 'tokens'.

It later emerged that the LFE's founder and frontman, Jim Aylward, was a convicted fraudster named James Abbass Biniaz.

Central Coast's nearest rivals, Newcastle Jets, are also on the market for a new owner after separate talks with a Sydney-based consortium collapsed this month.

Unlike the Jets, who are set to be bailed out by a 'hardship fund' provided by other A-League club owners, the Mariners will enter the season under the unpopular stewardship of Charlesworth, who has been chairman since 2013 and is content to stay on until a suitable buyer is found – despite initial threats he would hand the club's licence back to Football Australia if that wasn't possible.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Also, isn’t the Bunnings thing just a sponsoring the Table and the team of the week?

[Jetmaster]

Also, isn’t the Bunnings thing just a sponsoring the Table and the team of the week?

Yes - https://www.a-league.com.au/news/leagues-sign-historic-deal-bunnings

But people read social media and take it as gospel.

[My2BobsWorth]

Does Abdul know we have a pie shop for sale

[belchardo]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-31/what-a-league-separation-from-football-australia-means-for-clubs/13023888

bold new era and all that. hope they're right.

[R Ramjet]

can someone please post the heralds articles from the last few days

[belchardo]

https://thewomensgame.com/news/we-will-not-let-it-go---jets-will-survive-in-new-era-vow-owners-559420

Paul Lederer saying the jets are safe. Article also states that it is expected that Lee will be stripped of the licence.

[Couscous]

can someone please post the heralds articles from the last few days

I banned V8 for posting daily news in the wrong thread, sorry.

[Retro Jet]

https://thewomensgame.com/news/we-will-not-let-it-go---jets-will-survive-in-new-era-vow-owners-559420

Paul Lederer saying the jets are safe. Article also states that it is expected that Lee will be stripped of the licence.

Yep. Yadder yadder, yadder. "Handbrake is off..." i.e. Sydney & Melb - can go for it now legally.

[belchardo]

was thinking about the border closures and what it means for the comp

at the moment (about 8pm saturday 2/1/21):
- perth can only play adelaide or brisbane
- NSW teams can only play NSW teams, including Newcastle as they went to "greater sydney" since 11 December
- Victorian teams can play each other, brisbane and adelaide

good luck with the scheduling! it's going to be hell at the back-end of the season if another closure happens.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Imo, it’s naive on the league’s part if they didn’t plan for this.

Should be simple enough to make those splits, or relocate a team or two to make a viable draw for a fortnight or so to keep the comp going.

Think about all the Derbies!

Edit: The run n cuddle had the advantage of being predominantly NSW based. But I can’t see why the A league couldn’t implement a “bubble” for a couple of weeks.

[belchardo]

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/its-all-smoke-and-mirrors---questions-raised-over-independent-leagues-deal-559432

key points:
- FA has control of when the season is played, some clubs upset about possible move to summer (competition with AFL/NRL, stadium access, clash with amateur comps keeping fans away and "cold weather keeping crowds away", others supportive (improved quality of football).
- FA getting a cut of transfer fees and licence sales/transfers, and any profits
- FA retain ownership of FFA cup, NPL and national second division

the "cold weather" argument is brilliant. Our crowds are so huge in the summer that we couldn't do much worse. And we aren't playing for the same crowd as AFL/NRL. Big bash is killing us in summer, so why worry about that? Stadium access is a legit issue.

not sure about FA getting a cut of transfers etc.

my initial thought about the national second division ownership was "why?". Thinking on it for a bit i can see the logic. This way there is no possibility of the top-flight clubs killing off promotion/relegation before it can even begin.

[Ghost of Plague]

Existing a-league clubs have long term agreements to be in the top division. To counter that, the FFA are building a 2nd division, the best teams will gradually get promoted to form a 14-16 team a-league. When the existing agreements expire and a strong 2nd division is in place relegation will occur.
Its a long term, fair and smart plan. Id be shocked if its here within the next 10 years, but if they do it right and its sustainable, it will work really well.


Stadium access is a prob for us and wanderers. Legit though Inter Miami built a whole new joint in 12 months flat how long could it take us to expand #2 to a 12-15k venue them play any marquee games at Marathon stadium.
Get a developer in our new ownership group and they can develop the site with council/state govt assistance.

NCC leadership has some really good relationships with developers no doubt they can sort out some favours.

[My2BobsWorth]

Really good relationship with developers is what turned a good town into a really shit town

[Ghost of Plague]

Really good relationship with developers is what turned a good town into a really shit town

I know, right.
Oh for the days of abandoned warehouses and filthy wharves lining the harbour.
How dare someone put all those lovely dwellings in there and create a linked livable beautiful city.
Scum of the earth indeed.
Run for mayor and burn them all down ill vote for you.

[belchardo]

I know, right.
Oh for the days of abandoned warehouses and filthy wharves lining the harbour.
How dare someone put all those lovely dwellings in there and create a linked livable beautiful city.
Scum of the earth indeed.
Run for mayor and burn them all down ill vote for you.

Isn't/wasn't that all being done by a state government organisation?

[Ghost of Plague]

Isn't/wasn't that all being done by a state government organisation?

Everyone has their nose in the trough my friend. That's how this all works.
Now, if you've got a minute check out how Macarthur is funding thier new stadium.
Its a great example of pollies taking back the power in all this. And it also looks like a fantastic consequence of developers being banned as political donors. The same could be recreated here but it would need leadership. Alas, sometimes it's easier to take the kickbacks and tick everyone's paperwork.

[Mark325]

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/newcastle-jets-change-ownership-0

[belchardo]

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/newcastle-jets-change-ownership-0

Halle-ducking-lujah.

Would be nice to know who the interim consortium is. Lawrie should thanked for his efforts but asked to move on.

[Thomas477]

I agree, if Lawrie’s been looking for an owner for the past 18 months or so, he’s clearly failed, he needs to go. Complete rebuild of the club is required.

[380]

I agree, if Lawrie’s been looking for an owner for the past 18 months or so, he’s clearly failed, he needs to go. Complete rebuild of the club is required.



Not a Lawrie fan in the slightest but he HAS brought parties and offers to the owner Lee for his consideration in the past.In fact one of those interested made two offers to which Lee declined.

I think Lawries job was to walk parties through the road to a sale get an ultimate commitment out of them forward a figure from them to Lee. Not sure he has failed on that KPI.

[belchardo]

Not a Lawrie fan in the slightest but he HAS brought parties and offers to the owner Lee for his consideration in the past.In fact one of those interested made two offers to which Lee declined.

I think Lawries job was to walk parties through the road to a sale get an ultimate commitment out of them forward a figure from them to Lee. Not sure he has failed on that KPI.

I can see the validity of your point, but I think it is just time to move on. Somebody has to take the wrap for this debacle, he was the guy in charge. He has no doubt been well rewarded for his time with the jets.

[380]

IMO the spotlight is well and truly on the intentions of those carrying the can at the minute for the Jets. The way i see it two things can happen here

1.The group responsible can look to move the Jets on in a timely manner to a previously interested party for the sum of there out of pocket expenses only. This move forward would allow us to make some additional signings inc a decent #10, Fill our squad and re-assure anymore potential bed wetters at the club off and on the field.

or worse

2. They can also prove to be as obstructive as Lee in dollar terms in there expectation for what they want in return for there involvement and drag this shitshow out even further all because they want to make a few bucks for there investing time and dollars to drag the circus away from Martin Lee.


If as reported Gerry Ryan was a previous interested party and he still has some interest that can be rekindled then that call should have been made already to him.

Past experience in ownership with Melb City, Ownership of the Melbourne Storm and investing in other sports, extending a hand to this bloke is a no brainer especially now with Lee's inflated interpretation in value of the Jets no longer a consideration.

[Ghost of Plague]

Not a Lawrie fan in the slightest but he HAS brought parties and offers to the owner Lee for his consideration in the past.In fact one of those interested made two offers to which Lee declined.

I think Lawries job was to walk parties through the road to a sale get an ultimate commitment out of them forward a figure from them to Lee. Not sure he has failed on that KPI.

Im still shocked that people believe a word that gypo says in public either through himself or his surrogates in the media.
The luncheon speech, when he was inside with the perceived local movers and shakers was all you needed to know about the bloke.
The sooner his ass is out the door the better.

[380]

I have no problem with Lawrie being moved on, In actual fact i have previously stated a post just weeks ago i don't want my CEO knowing more about football than he does does running a business. Just as i don't want anybody in charge of a football Dept knowing more about business.

But on the particular issue of bringing in offers for the club, To be fair Lawrie did do that.

[belchardo]

IMO the spotlight is well and truly on the intentions of those carrying the can at the minute for the Jets. The way i see it two things can happen here

1.The group responsible can look to move the Jets on in a timely manner to a previously interested party for the sum of there out of pocket expenses only. This move forward would allow us to make some additional signings inc a decent #10, Fill our squad and re-assure anymore potential bed wetters at the club off and on the field.

or worse

2. They can also prove to be as obstructive as Lee in dollar terms in there expectation for what they want in return for there involvement and drag this shitshow out even further all because they want to make a few bucks for there investing time and dollars to drag the circus away from Martin Lee.


If as reported Gerry Ryan was a previous interested party and he still has some interest that can be rekindled then that call should have been made already to him.

Past experience in ownership with Melb City, Ownership of the Melbourne Storm and investing in other sports, extending a hand to this bloke is a no brainer especially now with Lee's inflated interpretation in value of the Jets no longer a consideration.

I would assume that they will move it on as quickly as possible. The danger for us is that they move it on to a party that would be interested in moving the licence.

[380]

I would assume that they will move it on as quickly as possible. The danger for us is that they move it on to a party that would be interested in moving the licence.

I wouldn't think so at this point time. 2 potentials would be the Wolves and ACT, Not sure Lederer or the Smurfs would want any possibility of a license being any closer to there catchment area than those already in existence.

Many of my relo's in Wollongong are smurf fans.

[Jetmaster]

It has been said a gazillion times....there is no untapped market left in Australia that is bigger than a well run Jets with 10,000 members. Not going anywhere.

APL can now sell and make a profit on an asset without hindrance. Should be very appealing, depending on remaining debt of course.

[Pico]

If Lederer is involved he'll pick the club of any potential before throwing it away. He's already taken the coaching staff, ibini, Steve ug is gone, they just got Noah James but don't worry I bet that nice new contract he signed is now null and void too, very convenient for Lederers wanders. Watch any promising juniors end up at WSW or accomplices. All this luck for the guy with the inside knowledge of when the shit is going to hit the fan, must just be a series of really fortunate coincidences.

I feel once the carcass is picked clean what's left will be tossed to the highest bidder no matter the quality of the new ownership or any relocation goals, last thing this mob will want is a cashed up or competent competitor they'll just want their pieces of silver

You never know we might see a spiritual rebirth of the Jets in the new second division if it ever gets off the ground.

[380]

Unless " entity " provides for a quick transfer of ownership then today's announcement essentially will mean two tenths of sweet screw all for our season because i don't see other clubs owners putting in to improve the quality and number of humans to our squad.

Until we have a new overlord in our own right not funded by other owners not much will be changing on the park.

[380]

If Lederer is involved he'll pick the club of any potential before throwing it away. He's already taken the coaching staff, ibini, Steve ug is gone, they just got Noah James but don't worry I bet that nice new contract he signed is now null and void too, very convenient for Lederers wanders. Watch any promising juniors end up at WSW or accomplices. All this luck for the guy with the inside knowledge of when the shit is going to hit the fan, must just be a series of really fortunate coincidences.

I feel once the carcass is picked clean what's left will be tossed to the highest bidder no matter the quality of the new ownership or any relocation goals, last thing this mob will want is a cashed up or competent competitor they'll just want their pieces of silver

You never know we might see a spiritual rebirth of the Jets in the new second division if it ever gets off the ground.

Agree totally, That is why i suggested real change needs to happen quickly so the likes of those keeping our heads above water have limited time to cherry pick the shit out of the place

[Bremsstrahlung]

Yehh, I’m curious to see all these parties that “pulled out” for various reasons.
I imagine they were being LED along by Lee, and then realised he’s unwilling to drop his price and given the circumstances would wait until they strip the license.

I don’t really see much incentive for this consortium of already owners to put bits of their money into us.

[belchardo]

Yehh, I’m curious to see all these parties that “pulled out” for various reasons.
I imagine they were being LED along by Lee, and then realised he’s unwilling to drop his price and given the circumstances would wait until they strip the license.

I don’t really see much incentive for this consortium of already owners to put bits of their money into us.

in this scenario, i think they do have a bit of an incentive. say lee wanted $15m, and of that $5m was debt. The Entity (and i think The Entity should always be spelt with initial capitals) could put a bit of cash in (for arguments sake, let's say $1m), sell the licence for $7.5m and pocket the $1.5m profit. Better interest rate than a bank at the moment. numbers plucked from the air to illustrate my point.

all that is predicated on there being a few interested parties.

[belchardo]

https://play.acast.com/s/shim-spider-and-so-much-moore

Latest episode contains a good interview with Danny Townsend about the APL and unbundling. I'm more optimistic after listening to it. Recorded before The Entity was announced so it isn't mentioned.

Sounding very much like they want to produce the matches and sell to as many parties as possible. OTT, free to air and apps all mentioned.

Also mentions new sponsors to be announced in the next few weeks but no naming rights sponsor.

[Ghost of Plague]

I don’t really see much incentive for this consortium of already owners to put bits of their money into us.

Simple. No jets = no TV contract = no revenue for the existing teams.
Sporting franchises are one of the worlds fastest growing commodities. The worth of them is not in the year to year revenue, its the value of the franchise as it appreciates as an asset over time. By getting in at the ground level and now owning them, the cabal that is THE ENTITY is only concerned with increasing the value of the franchises.
To do that they need like minded, experienced individuals who know how to make this stuff works. Hence why Gerry Ryan is always in the mix, he's one of the boys. They don't want football people owning them, they want business people owning them.
The business people employ football people to do that small stuff like care about players and coaches. The unbundling is the best thing to happen to the game in this country. This is the only chance for these clubs to become the next Richmonds, Hawthorn's etc. That's where they are aiming.
Thats why they don't care about the national team, the 2nd division of the FFA cup or youth.
Lederer and co want billion dollar franchises, not a couple of bucks off Stevie Ugs contract.
They have stars in their eyes. Let them go for it, its better for everyone.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN News, COVID central Wankerers fans can f*ck off you aren't welcome anyway:
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/covidsports060112.mp4

Jets prep for match including comments from the Welchman:
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetswed060120.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsdeans070121.mp4

[belchardo]

I wonder if we'll get the promised statement from the national second division group today.

[belchardo]

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/brisbane-roar-fc-v-melbourne-victory-a-league-match-postponed

roar v victory game set for Sunday postponed.

[belchardo]

MATCH WEEK

DATE

HOME

AWAY

VENUE

Kick-Off (Local)

Kick-Off (AEDT)

Notes



4

Saturday, 16 January 2021

Melbourne City FC

Western United FC

AAMI Park

7:10 pm

7:10 pm

Updated Date & Kick-Off Time



4

Wednesday, 20 January 2021

Newcastle Jets

Brisbane Roar FC

McDonald Jones Stadium

7:05 pm

7:05 pm

Fixture brought forward from Saturday 6 February



4

Wednesday, 20 January 2021

Perth Glory

Adelaide United

HBF Park

6:20 pm

9:20 pm

Updated Date & Kick-Off Time





Perth Glory

Brisbane Roar FC

HBF Park

6:20 pm

9:20 pm

Postponed




Update to the fixture schedule. Our match moved to 20 January, but this will probably move again i reckon.

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/a-league-202021-fixture-updates-matchweek-4

[Couscous]

Announcement pending this week.

[Bon]

Announcement pending this week.

What are you trying to say, Gaz?

[Alton]

Announcement pending this week.

What ?????

[Thomas477]

Announcement pending this week.

They’re giving us the wooden spoon already?

[belchardo]

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/2022-vision-aafc-lay-out-preferred-road-map-for-national-second-division

News on the second division.

[belchardo]

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/wyndham-city-stadium-receives-planning-amendment-approval

western united have got approval for their stadium. I didn't think they would actually deliver this. i'm glad i was wrong.

[turbojetfireV8]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/7099640/a-league-jets-striker-odonovan-delighted-to-officially-call-australia-home/?cs=7580

Roy 100% Aussie this Thursday:




JANUARY 25 2021 - 8:00PM
A-League: Jets striker O'Donovan delighted to officially call Australia home
James Gardiner
Local Sport
A-League: Jets striker O'Donovan delighted to officially call Australia home

ROY O'Donovan had rarely spent more than two years in one place when he decided to try his luck Down Under.

But from the moment the Irishman touched down, he knew Australia was home.

That was five and a half years ago. Since then, his son, Alfie, has come into the world, and the feisty frontman has forged a reputation as one of the A-League's most passionate and productive goal poachers.


The majority of his stay has been in Newcastle, leading the line for the Jets.

On Tuesday, O'Donovan and wife, Ellen, will become dinky-di Aussies at a citizenship ceremony via zoom.

"My history as a player was two years in one place before I wanted a new challenge," O'Donovan said. "We never looked too far past two seasons. As soon as we came here, we loved the place, loved the football. The sun was shining every day. The opportunities in Australia - it is a very forward thinking, positive county - are endless. There is so much opportunity for young people to progress. Within the first few months myself and Ellen made the decision there was nowhere like this place.

"We are blessed to have the opportunity to call this place home. Now we have the passport to back it up."

O'Donovan's citizenship comes hot on the heels of his 50th goal in the A-League - drilling the match-winner in a break through 2-1 triumph over Wellington in Wollongong on Sunday.

"There are a few milestone this week. It was 50 goals on Sunday, Australian citizenship on Thursday and Alfie starts school next Monday,"O'Donovan said.

Citizenship also means that O'Donovan is no longer classed as one of five imports each club is permitted to sign.

At 35, the former Premier League striker is closer to the end than the start of his career, but believes there is enough running in his legs for at least a "couple more years".

"I want to play the best I can for as long as possible," the off-contract O'Donovan said.

"Hopefully it is in Newcastle. "

Although proud to reach the 50 goals milestone - in just 108 games - O'Donovan has unfinished business.

"I'm very ambitious, very driven," said O'Donovan, who has also had stints at the Mariners and Roar.

"I would like the opportunity to win some silverware before it is all said and done. We were hard done by a couple of years ago [losing the grand final to Victory after a controversial VAR decision].

"The good thing right now is that the club is stable. There are some great young prospects learning their craft in the A-League.

FAMILY AFFAIR: Roy O'Donovan with wife Ellen and son Alfie. Pictutre: Sproule Sports Focus
FAMILY AFFAIR: Roy O'Donovan with wife Ellen and son Alfie. Pictutre: Sproule Sports Focus

"We also need to keep the good people in and around the club. Historically with Newcastle we have lost a lot of good people when there have been changes. I think it is important to keep the fabric and the culture of the club while freshening things up as you move forward."

Next for the Jets is a trip to Western Sydney to tackle Wanderers on Friday night.

"It is certainly a game that the fans would like us to win," O'Donovan said.

"We needed to get that notch on the board, the first three points. I was delighted to get on the scoresheet myself and most importantly we are off the mark."

"That will take some pressure moving forward. We know we are capable of winning games. But we are young side as well and need to learn the lessons quick because first-team football is unforgiving.

"Hopefully we can kick on now. We can play our football and win games the way we want to.


"Wanderers have been playing some good football ... I really think we have the ability to cause them trouble and win the game if we do things right."

On joining the Jets from the Mariners for the 2017-18 season, O'Donovan bought a family home in Fletcher.

"When I bought the house here I had enjoyed my spell in Newcastle and wanted to make it home," O'Donovan said. "I wasn't expecting to go to Brisbane last year because of financial problems at the club which everybody is well aware of now.

"We are very blessed to live in Newcastle. It really does feel like home. We love the people.They are very similar to Irish people. The same sense of humour. The weather here is slightly better. It feels like home and hopefully it is for a lot longer."

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/images/transform/v1/crop/frm/AVQVfAtGgzehhK8J9F6uCU/9b9117a5-253c-4e2e-968f-918988fe49ed.jpg/r1825_0_3997_3302_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

[Bon]

Announcement pending this week.

I thought I read somewhere that there would be announcement today? What's the go, Gaz?

[The Hacker]

I thought I read somewhere that there would be announcement today? What's the go, Gaz?

Won’t do it on the day of the game.

The story in the herald Prso blew smoke up GVE a$$ it’s like he signed cause he knew he was returning

[Bon]

Won’t do it on the day of the game.

The story in the herald Prso blew smoke up GVE a$$ it’s like he signed cause he knew he was returning

HAHA.. It can't be legit.
Surely we have a little more ambition than to go for him a fvcking third time?!?!?
I thought it was all just a p!sstake rumour that was started on here?

[The Hacker]

HAHA.. It can't be legit.
Surely we have a little more ambition than to go for him a fvcking third time?!?!?
I thought it was all just a p!sstake rumour that was started on here?

I hope not to but where there is smoke .......

[Couscous]

There is a high probability (P=0.75) that today's game will be Dean's last as head coach, and good news will follow.

Go Jets!

[Frodo]

If GVE comes back, so many half interested fans will walk away fully now. Just keep Dean's in as a temporary option and find a new buyer. I'm quite happy to lose with an interim manager doing his best. But losing with Gary in charge is something we've all gone through enough to do it again.

[Grimario]

If GVE comes back, so many half interested fans will walk away fully now. Just keep Dean's in as a temporary option and find a new buyer. I'm quite happy to lose with an interim manager doing his best. But losing with Gary in charge is something we've all gone through enough to do it again.

You think so? What about the half interested new fans who have no history of GVE and go "ohh, he looks after the Young Socceroos. This is an almighty coup"? Apart from the half dozen die hards that post here, does anyone actually give a flying **** who the coach or players really are as long as the team wins?

[380]

I think plenty remember the backpass fest during GVE's second stint and just how batshit boring the football was and how week after week GVE would come out and tell us stats matters more than results because results he could not achieve.

If they appoint GVE it will be the result of a lazy process and a decision made by people who can't read the room, If the club can't find a better candidate than GVE then it should put off the process continue with Deans til the right person does come along.

For a title winning coach why has no other club offered him a gig in the past ?.

[Bremsstrahlung]

There is a high probability (P=0.75) that today's game will be Dean's last as head coach, and good news will follow.

Go Jets!
Lol, you said a while ago, 2 more games under Deans. Genuinely interested to see if this was correct. Goodluck Gary!

[My2BobsWorth]

If GVE comes back, so many half interested fans will walk away fully now. Just keep Dean's in as a temporary option and find a new buyer. I'm quite happy to lose with an interim manager doing his best. But losing with Gary in charge is something we've all gone through enough to do it again.
Fuk off

[Frodo]

You think so? What about the half interested new fans who have no history of GVE and go "ohh, he looks after the Young Socceroos. This is an almighty coup"? Apart from the half dozen die hards that post here, does anyone actually give a flying **** who the coach or players really are as long as the team wins?

Hey, I'm sure there's a lot of people who think GVE is some of "Proper Newcastle Lad" and will be stoked with the idea. I don't speak for everyone remember.

I was just more alluding what 380 hit you with. He was dreadful the last time he was here and a few fans were pretty stoked it seemed to move on from him. He hasn't been off coaching anywhere that would drastically change his style or tactics so I can only imagine he'll be here to do the same thing again. He's a youth coach, not a first team coach in my opinion.

I'm enjoying what Deans is doing enough at the moment to be happy to wait for a proper appointment to be made once a new owner can be found. The club should be focusing 100% on the sale rather than the head coach gig right now. And then any kids or seniors that come and offer their services can be reviewed by Dean's himself and Griff to fill the remaining spots on short term deals/loans. Leave as clean a slate for the new owners next year as possible.


We can't get relegated so the football side of things isn't the end of the world compared to the ownership issue. Keep playing kids and let everyone attack. People will still watch us if our loses are at least exciting.

[My2BobsWorth]

New execs for APL, sound too experienced for the A league
https://www.a-league.com.au/news/australian-professional-leagues-announce-new-executive-appointments

[belchardo]

New execs for APL, sound too experienced for the A league
https://www.a-league.com.au/news/australian-professional-leagues-announce-new-executive-appointments

Ant hearne reads like a very good get.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Interesting to see what path we go down with TV rights. Interesting appointment given his experience with Kayo
I’d also love to see the stats on Rugby’s Stan experiment. How many people upgrade and how many people sign up.

[turbojetfireV8]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/7110256/craig-deans-in-charge-for-jets-city-clash/?cs=7580


FEBRUARY 3 2021 - 5:00AM
A-League: Interim boss Craig Deans in charge for City clash as Jets close in on coach
James Gardiner
Local Sport
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PILOT SEAT: Interim boss Craig Deans (right) has another chance to press his claims for the Jets head coach position. Picture: Jonathan Caroll

Jets executive chairman Shane Mattiske expects to appoint a head coach early next week - giving interim boss Craig Deans one more game to push his claims.

A shortlist of four candidates were interviewed last week by an advisory panel which features former Socceroos captain Alex Tobin, Matildas great Julie Dolan and highly regarded coach Ron Smith.

The Jets' recent spike in results has strengthened the credentials of Deans, who has held the reins since the exit in October by Carl Robinson to join Western Sydney.

Celebrated Socceroo and high-profile football analyst Robbie Slater gave his backing of Deans after the Jets' 1-all draw with Wanderers last Friday.

Another positive result against last season's A-League grand finalists, Melbourne City, at home on Sunday, would add weight to his case.

"We had hoped to finalise the position this week, but the reality is that it will probably drag into early next week," Mattiske told the Newcastle Herald.

Shane Mattiske

The Jets have used three coaches in the past year and Mattiske said the club's new management had undertaken a thorough process and put in place an assessment criteria to ensure they get the right person "to take the club forward".

"We have done some interviews and are in the process of forming a view," Mattiske said. "It is more than just a coach. It includes the support that we put around them and understanding the different alternatives.

"There is a process we are working through. We have formed an advisory panel which has some independent views on it. We are confident that when we get to the point where we can make an announcement, it will be someone who is right for the club and someone who can take the club forward."

By then, the Jets, who sit in last spot on four points, would have played seven games - almost a third of the campaign.

"We are very focused on ensuing that it can happen quickly," Mattiske said with regards to the successful applicant assuming control.

The coach will have at least three new players to strength the squad.

Former Western United striker Apostolos Stamatelopoulos has signed until the end of the season and is available to play once the transfer window opens on February 16.

Indonesian under-23 international Syahrian Abimanyu and Kosovo attacker Liridon Krasniqi are expected to join the Jets on loan from Malaysian club Johor Darul.

Their addition follows the arrival of young soccer Luka Prso, who made an impressive debut off the bench, winning a penalty, in the 1-all draw with Western Sydney.

Matt Millar returns to training on Friday after a loan period at English League One club Shrewsbury Town.

Asked if the roster would be bolstered further, Mattiske said: "That is something we would work through once we have confirmed the coach. We are moving from a point where we were a little short on depth to building a full squad."

Millar, baring a hold up in quarantine, hopes to sit on the bench for the visit by City.

In a boost, the COVID-19 capacity at McDonald Jones Stadium has been lifted to 50 per cent (about 12,000) and the Jets have discounted family tickets in a bid to boost crowd numbers.

"The team has been performing well. They need the Newcastle community to get behind them," Mattiske said.

"We have some momentum after a win and draw and will be important to have a good crowd behind us.

"It is a time of year where parents and kids are starting to think about registering for football and launch into the season."

[turbojetfireV8]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/7111416/flying-start-young-socceroo-in-line-to-play-vital-role-against-city/?cs=7580


FEBRUARY 3 2021 - 8:30PM
Soccer: After just 22 minutes of a A-League action, Luke Prso is in line to play major role for Jets against Melbourne City
James Gardiner
Local Sport
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IMPRESSIVE: Luka Prso

LUKA Prso was recruited by the Newcastle Jets with a view to the future and filling the enormous shoes of Western Sydney-bound midfielder Steve Ugarkovic.

On Sunday, Prso, with just 22 minutes in the A-League under his belt, is likely to partner Ugarkovic in a rejigged midfield for the clash against Melbourne City at McDonald Jones Stadium.

In-form No.10 Ramy Najjarine is not permitted to play against his old club, due to a league-wide stipulation for players on loan.

Ali Abbas would normally be the next in line, but the Iraqi international is on the comeback from a hamstring injury. Kosta Petratos has also filled the role but is more adept up front.

The most likely scenario is for Angus Thurgate to push forward with Prso replacing Najjarine as he did in late in the 1-all draw with Western Sydney last Friday.

Elevation to the starting side would continue a meteoric rise for the 20-year-old who joined the Jets on loan two weeks ago and has played little senior football.

Jets football manager Joel Griffiths has no doubts that Prso would be up to the task of starting if required.

"I definitely think he would handle starting," he said. "The signs are good. He is a great kid and is sure about his ability. He is not content just to make up the numbers."

In Prso's 22-minute cameo against Wanderers, as well as winning a match-equalising penalty, he completed 17 passes without error and won two fouls.

"It looked like a young boy wanting to get on the ball and not really caring so much about making mistakes in the front third," Griffiths said. "He has definitely been a breath of fresh air. I thought he would struggle conditioning-wise but he was getting up and down the field like he has been with us all season, not having just spent 14 days in quarantine."

Jets captain Nigel Boogaard was also impressed with Prso's energy and maturity.

"He wanted to get on the ball, he wanted to create things," Boogaard said. "His match smarts played a big part in the penalty. A lot of kids who grew up playing football in this country would have stayed on their feet when they got contact in the box.

"It is a matter of what the coaching staff want to do. If he gets an given an opportunity to play, we are confident he can do a job for us."

Ugarkovic, 26, is closing in on 100 straight starting appearances for the Jets, but will head to Western Sydney next season.

Young Socceroos coach and Jets 2008 championship-winning boss Gary Van Egmond believes Prso has the potential to have an even greater impact than the man he will replace.

"Once it was clear that Steve was going next year, we started looking around," Griffgiths said. "Luka's name was given to me. Dutchy (Van Egmond) coached him in the Young Socceroos and said he had the ingredients to develop into and even better player than Steve. Luka is obviously on loan [from Croatian club Osijek] and we will see how he goes."

[turbojetfireV8]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/7112606/jets-match-postponed-after-victorian-covid-case/

FEBRUARY 4 2021 - 9:38AM
Newcastle Jets match against Western United postponed after Victorian COVID case
Matt Carr
Local News
A-League logo. Newcastle Jets FC.Newcas_logo_cmyk_pos_blue.jpg

NEWCASTLE Jets will not take on Western United on Wednesday, the A-League club confirmed on Thursday.

The match was postponed after Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews held a late-night press conference implementing new pandemic rules for the southern state.

A new date is yet to be announced.

The news arrived the same morning Australian Professional Leagues commissioner Greg O'Rourke released a fixture update.


"Based on the information that we have now, we hope that we will be able to publish a larger number of fixtures within the next two weeks which goes much deeper into the season than border restrictions have allowed in the last month," he said.


"We know how difficult it has been for fans and other stakeholders to plan ahead in many areas of their lives with COVID-19, and we have been no different, however our next fixture updates will be created with a view to provide a longer term schedule."

The fixture update includes a home clash for Newcastle against Wellington on February 28 from 6.10pm.

[turbojetfireV8]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/7112113/a-league-veteran-defender-demands-more-from-improving-jets/



FEBRUARY 4 2021 - 7:00AM
A-League: Veteran defender demands more from improving Jets
James Gardiner
Local Sport
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PUSHING TIN: Jets defender Nikolai Topor-Stanley during a weights session at The Concept gym in Highfields on Wednesday. Picture: Sproule Sports Focus

NIKOLAI Topor-Stanley is a half-glass-full kind of guy.

The Jets veteran tries to take a positive outlook whenever possible.

But while he has been encouraged by the Jets' spike in results, the hard-nosed defender knows they have a long way to go.


The Jets sit in last place on four points, heading into Sunday' clash against Melbourne City at McDonald Jones Stadium.

On the plus side, they are fresh from a 2-1 win over Wellington and 1-all draw with Western Sydney.

"I am always a positive person - a half-glass-full guy - but it is only two games," Topor-Stanley said. "We have to start fixing things. There were still mistakes in the Wanderers game that should have cost us.

"Small moments in games, if you are on the wrong side, it costs you.

"We know that, now it is a matter of doing something about it when it counts. That is the difference between great teams and mediocre teams.

"Every game is important. Every three points on the board is vital. At the end of the season it always comes down to a handful of goals, one result that doesn't go your way. Every point we miss out on is crucial come the end of the year."

After a hectic schedule of four games in 13 days, the Jets will have a week to prepare for City, who gave up a 2-0 lead to lose 3-2 to the Mariners on Wednesday night.

"It is as though your mind plays tricks on you," Topor Stanley said after gym session on Wednesday. "When you know you have time off, your body suddenly feels sore. When you know you have a game, it tells you to put up with it.

"It took me three days to get over the last game. Everything was hurting a bit but it is good that we had a few days off."

Fellow veteran, Jets captain Nigel Boogaard agreed that the extended gap between games was beneficial.

"It gives the boys a bit of respite and allows us to really prepare properly for the weekend," Boogaard said. "We also get to have a good look at City against the Mariners. Fatigue does play a part. Last week [against Wanderers] we pushed right to the death, but you could see towards the back end that we were starting to slow down.

"For us it is about getting out to an early lead. If you can ram that home early, with a team coming off a tired performance, it is hard to come back from."

And there could be more relief for the Jets, with next Wesdnesday's game against Western United almost certain to be postponed.


The COVID-19 capacity at McDonald Jones Stadium has been increased to 50 per cent and Boogaard is hopeful that fans make the most of the "family-friendly 4pm time slot" and discount prices.

"Two adults and two kids can come to the game for $49," Boogaard said. "That's great value and hopefully we can get a large number of supporters there. They have been great for us through COVID at the end back end of last year and this season. That loyal support is massive for us."

[mic22]

In-form No.10 Ramy Najjarine is not permitted to play against his old club, due to a league-wide stipulation for players on loan.

Seriously, WTF...

Looks like the a-league poor version of the "ius primæ noctis"

[StannyCFCJET]

Seriously, WTF...

Looks like the a-league poor version of the "ius primæ noctis"
Calm down every league does this

[Jeterpool]

Calm down every league does this

This. It;s standard football practice.

If Joey played against us we'd be bitching the other way as well.

[mic22]

This. It;s standard football practice.

If Joey played against us we'd be bitching the other way as well.

Honestly, never heard this before (my bad).
I just think it's silly.

[Jeterpool]

Honestly, never heard this before (my bad).
I just think it's silly.

Some leagues do it, some don't. For example, they don't do it in the Champions League - Coutinho scored against Barca when he was loaned to Bayern season before last for example.

[belchardo]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/7131218/newcastle-jets-creditors-to-get-nothing/?cs=7580

subscriber only (which i am not), so don't know the exact details, but the headline ain't exactly great.

[evolution]

I got you Belchardo.


Liquidator confirms debt to grow in collapse of Martin Lee-owned Newcastle Jets as staff owed $500,000 and unsecured creditors to get nothing

NEWCASTLE Jets creditors, owed more than $13 million, will receive no return and staff will be left vying for any remaining funds in the collapsed company.

Liquidator Jeff Shute, of Shaw Gidley Insolvency Reconstruction, said on Wednesday that he was still tallying the amount owed to employees, but he expected the company's debt to grow by more than $500,000 due to staff entitlements.

Employees will be forced to rely on the federal government's Fair Entitlements Guarantee (FEG), which picks up the tab for workers' entitlements when their employer collapses without enough money to cover them.

Mr Shute said about half of the money claimed by staff was owed to former chief executive Lawrie McKinna, who would not be eligible to claim under FEG because he was a director of the failed company.

"If any money becomes available for distribution, employee liabilities will have to be paid out in full prior to any funds becoming available to ordinary unsecured creditors," he said.

"At this stage it is uncertain whether there will be a return to employee creditors or not. Unfortunately there will not be any return to ordinary unsecured creditors."

Several small businesses have been left tens of thousands of dollars out of pocket from the liquidation of the Martin Lee-owned Jets after an already tough 12 months due to COVID-19.

Among the creditors is Doc's Megasave Chemist at Marketown, which is owed $35,384.31.

Chemist owner James Reid said the impact had been tough for the small business, particularly with the added pinch from COVID-19 last year.

"It's obviously disappointing, the impact on a small business is huge," he said. "Like all other businesses, we've done it tough. But we're still here, we're still alive."

The Jets were wound up in January with debts of $12.927 million, according to documents filed with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) in January.

Football Australia has handed control of the club to a new company, bankrolled by the owners of four rival clubs, which is working to support those affected.

The company has no contractual liability to service the former company's debts.

Mr Reid said his chemist had lost more than 30 per cent of it's turnover due to the pandemic, and the Jets situation would have further cashflow implications.

He said the business had managed to get through to now without losing any staff, but that could be at risk.

The business has sponsored the Jets for several years through providing strapping tape and pharmaceutical services.

"At the moment we are still sponsoring, but this could impact future decisions to sponsor," Mr Reid said.

Viv Sportings, which supplies uniforms for the team and sells Jets merchandise both on game day and through the new store on King Street, is owed $45,102.

Owner Viv Chauhan said he was "working with new company to work out what's best for us" and was hopeful of recouping the money.

The business has an ongoing contract with the Jets for the next three years.

"They're supporting us, it's all a work in progress," he said.

Mr Shute said the failed company's financial position was worse than indicated in the initial report to ASIC last month.

He said the report lists $535,201 owed to the Jets from academy players, sponsors and merchandise sales, but it was unlikely the money would be recovered because the company could no longer fill its obligations.

The report also lists that the Jets had $1.12 million in 'other assets' but creditors will be unlikely to see the majority of those funds.

According to Mr Shute, the 'other assets' included more than $300,000 in Bartercard funds, that he said had been overestimated in value and any return could be as low as 10 cents in the dollar.

Other funds included $252,000 owed by members and $416,000 due in cash and contra from sponsors that would not be collected as the company was no longer operating.

More than $80,000 was due in JobKeeper payments and that had been collected by the liquidator.

About $50,000 was paid by the Jets as a deposit to Venues NSW, but that money be offset against rent owed to the organisation.

Mr Lee is listed as the company's major creditor, with $8.598 million outstanding, while the Australian Tax Office is owed $2 million.

Rather than contribute capital, the Chinese businessman appears to have funded the club through a series of loans from his other companies.

Former coach Carl Robinson, his assistant Kenny Miller, current Newcastle Jets staff and a raft of Hunter businesses are among 70 creditors.

The new owners have agreed to honour sponsorship agreements and membership entitlements that were in place before the takeover.

Executive chairman Shane Mattiske said the new entity would do everything it could to support local people and businesses left out of pocket from the liquidation.

"We are bearing all the costs but the majority of that money is gone," Mr Mattiske said. "Any money paid before January 6 has gone into the old entity and is now in the hands of the liquidator."

[The Dunster]

Should have renamed the club Ponzi United.

Fmd where was the due dilligence from the FFA letting Lee have the licence in the first place.

[Ghost of Plague]

So $10.5m of the $13m was to ATO and Lee himself?
Ok so that's a different story.
So we only owed about $2.5m to real creditors. That sucks but it should have been a manageable figure to keep trading.
McKinna can't cry about his money, he ran the joint.
Most of the little guy sponsors will prob be dealt 'make good hospitality in the future as repayment (HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A SPARE CORPORATE BOX OR TWO TO CATER TO THEM ALL).
Stiching up players and workers is the true crime here. **** anyone who does that. The new entity should make that part of their establishment costs to make good on those debts.

Also, Bartercard? That shit still exists? Any sucker swimming around in that sewer deserves to lose their dough. Imbeciles the lot of them.

[Couscous]

The Tax Office is a real creditor. It is all of us.

[Ghost of Plague]

The Tax Office is a real creditor. It is all of us.

Absolite post of the decade.
Well played.
"All of us" hahahahahahahah. Brilliant line.

Ill gladly forgo my allotted (checks notes) approx 7 cents worth here in order to give the Jets a pass.
Taxation is theft.
They'll cope without that $2m.

Keep caping for the govt though, its a good look.

[380]

Cous upset they knocked back his 3yr request and appointed Deans.

[Thomas477]

I’ll be honest, a little bit of me is happy Carl and Kenny are still owed money they might not get...

Sucks for the local businesses though.

[Jeterpool]

I’ll be honest, a little bit of me is happy Carl and Kenny are still owed money they might not get...

Sucks for the local businesses though.

Maybe the fact they're owed money is the reason they left...

[Bremsstrahlung]

Rhyan Grant’s mullet is no more.

Was tossing up whether to post here or the famous people death thread, but is he famous?

[Bremsstrahlung]

So, apparently the Socceroos World Cup Qualifiers in Kuwait or wherever the hub is, coincide with the A leagues Finals series.
Not really an issue for us, but could be an issue for some clubs and the Socceroos. With players forced to choose between finals or Socceroos. To complicate things further, 34 man squad due to the hub.
So you’d think there are going to be a number of players that are not used.

Apparently A league isn’t observing international dates this year due to covid and the need to finish the season while we have a broadcaster.

[belchardo]

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/how-kuol-s-stuttgart-deal-can-help-mariners-stay-afloat

kuol off to germany at the end of the season. Best of luck to him, but yet another player with 30s of good play heading off ridiculously early.

Good business for the mariners by the look of it though.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Can he even evade?

[Jeterpool]

Brebner sacked.

And to think we lost to them. City will tear us to shreds

[belchardo]

Brebner sacked.

And to think we lost to them. City will tear us to shreds

why am i not surprised. the problems at victory are clearly all the fault of the coach.

how would you feel - club champion who didn't really want the job and forced to carry the can for every crap decision by those above made in the last 4 years.

shit, sounds a bit like deans actually (not sure about the club champion though).

[belchardo]

Popovic signs for victory commencing next season

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/victory-appoints-tony-popovic

[StannyCFCJET]

Popovic signs for victory commencing next season

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/victory-appoints-tony-popovic

Assume his sons will sign soon

[belchardo]

https://www.melbournevictory.com.au/news/adama-traore-update

How have they still not made a decision?

[Couscous]

How have they still not made a decision?

It's highly complex, as can be seen by the range of disciplinary actions in the past, from Joel Griffiths to Danny Vukovic.

[BP Super Dynamos]

Archie Thompson is a pleb. Fox need to cut him. Not only is he Victory biased, but he's also clueless.

[StannyCFCJET]

Archie Thompson is a pleb. Fox need to cut him. Not only is he Victory biased, but he's also clueless.

He's also Western United bias

[mge61]

He's also Western United bias

Well you might as well throw in Harper, Slater, Bosnich and Speed in with their Smurf FC scarves on.

[StannyCFCJET]

Well you might as well throw in Harper, Slater, Bosnich and Speed in with their Smurf FC scarves on.

Harper likes the Jets, Problem is were always shit so fans think there hate us

[evolution]

Karl Dodd joining the club as assistant coach, also hired some video analysis bloke.

https://www.newcastlejetsfc.com.au/news/newcastle-jets-announce-additional-support-staff?fbclid=IwAR2uPwGGZFBENSf-bpugzRICz56Lr8tXpIredQnv_oRO32NV8WDt2IU47sQ

[Thomas477]

Just what we need, another assistant coach.

[Alton]

Just what we need, another assistant coach.

We want players, new blood, not another coach, Macca is doing that.

[StannyCFCJET]

Just what we need, another assistant coach.

Pretty sure we didn't have one

[turbojetfireV8]

Harper article for anyone who can't access it https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/7234667/foxtel-commentator-andy-harper-fires-a-rocket-at-lifeless-newcastle-jets


MAY 2 2021 - 7:26PM
Foxtel commentator Andy Harper fires a rocket at Newcastle Jets
ROBERT DILLON
Newcastle Jets
RESPECTED Foxtel commentator Andy Harper has called for an inquiry into the Newcastle Jets' slide into the A-League cellar, declaring: "The decay and the decline [this season] has been nothing short of alarming."

In a forthright interview on ABC radio's "Talking Sport" on Saturday, the former Newcastle Breakers striker argued that the Jets' roster was not the worst in the A-League, and that they had similar footballing resources to rival clubs.

Newcastle, who parted company with former owner Martin Lee and coach Carl Robinson in the pre-season, are winless in their past 11 games and sit last on the ladder, two points behind Melbourne Victory, who have a game in hand.

Harper described Victory as an "ordinary team" who were always likely to struggle this season.

"I don't put Newcastle Jets in that category," he told ABC.

"The difference between Victory and the Jets is that whilst Victory were always heading for this sort of trouble this season, in my opinion, the Jets were promising plenty ... but the decay and the decline since has been nothing short of alarming."

Harper pointed to the end of last season, when the Jets finished with seven wins and three draws in their last 11 games to miss out on the finals by three points.

"Had they had one or probably two more wins and made the finals, I am on the public record as saying I believe the Newcastle Jets would have made the grand final, and would have had a good chance of winning it," Harper said.

He added the "same group of players were promising plenty" and playing a "compelling, competitive, attractive brand of football", both under Robinson and during the interim phase before Craig Deans was confirmed as the Welshman's full-time replacement.

"And then something has happened with the management of these players, to the point where they are now bottom of the table, and it should be the source of an inquiry," he said.

Harper added: "The leak of performance, the leak in confidence, the leak of output has become a flood ... I just watch this team and it's lifeless."

He said "on one level" he admired the faith Deans had shown in his players.

"But the acceptance of mediocrity, the lack of accountability - for the players, there is no responsibility on them," he said. "The same errors are going unpunished. The same lack of form is accepted. Hence why they're at the bottom of the table ...

"This team is too important for the league, it's too important for the fans, and it's too important for me, for this to continue. Seismic change has to take place."

Harper also accused the Jets of "closing the door on local juniors", comparing them unfavourably to Adelaide's development system, which he said had produced 39 players across the A-League this season, as well as four based overseas.

Jets executive chairman Shane Mattiske said Harper was entitled to his opinion and welcomed his passion for the club.

"There's no question that there was a disruption before the season started with the change of ownership," Mattiske said.

"We've had to re-launch the club and start from scratch.

"The reality is that the squad we have now is the one that we were left with. We've been working hard on improving the resources, finishing this season competitively and building a much stronger squad for next season."

Mattiske saw no value in debating Harper's claims point by point.

But in fairness to the Jets, at the end of last season they lost former Socceroos Dimi Petratos and Bernie Ibini, ex-Premier League stars Wes Hoolahan and Joe Ledley, veteran goalkeeper Glen Moss, Nick Fitzgerald, a veteran of 189 A-League games, and Panamanian international Abdiel Arroyo.

Injuries have also sidelined senior players Nigel Boogaard, Ben Kantarovski, Jason Hoffman and Johnny Koutroumbia for long stretches this season.

[belchardo]

Harper article for anyone who can't access it https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/7234667/foxtel-commentator-andy-harper-fires-a-rocket-at-lifeless-newcastle-jets

What the heck is he smoking? Jets squad better than victory squad? Ridiculous.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I don’t agree with some points he made, especially re the squad. They’ve got star world Cup winger kruse. But watching these games, the commentators are in spruiking mode where they talk up anything, the only player I’ve heard them give a bit of slack to is Millar when was 0 from 10 attempted crosses.

The comment that resonates with me is the one about how “successful” we were at the start of the season. I think everyone agrees that while we were never going to win every week, we were taking it to better teams, and could project a better points rate than 2 from 33.
When Deans was interim coach and we weren’t doing too badly.

So what changed?
Was it Deans getting the team to play his way? If so, Deans gone.
Was it the players still had hope for a new coach and have been left with Deans who they all had known for years and they dont have that desire to play for him? If so, deans and players out.
Was it just that other teams got better as the season progresses?
Is it off field turmoil that leaves half the players wanting out of the club regardless and cbf playing?

Harper is right. Something changed when he was appointed full time. Or at least that’s when our coincidence of poor form kicked in.
Appointing deans as permanent coach after his early season exploits as interim was a reasonable decision. No use getting in Mourinho to work with this squad. Deans was getting some results. And imo, we were playing better than expected. So I don’t have a problem with that decision.

Now, it’s become clear that he wasn’t able to sustain those performances and seems unable to get these players to show some desire. So I don’t think he should be renewed for another season. Maybe he’s a good coach or a good guy, but I don’t think he’s the person to recruit well, and to coach and improve our players and get them playing better each week.

If we plan to be here next year, we need to announce a coach ASAP and work on recruiting to their desire.

[The Dunster]

Get rid of Millar and we will win games. He's a defensive liability and no longer offers us anything going forward.

[Retro Jet]

Reports that Tony Sage was denied access to Glory v Fart...so he's attending as a ball boy.
:brrr:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aleague/comments/n58hsk/west_tony_sage_denied_entry_into_tonights_match/

Worth a look in case you see him for another comedy gold A-League moment. :rof:
http://www.hesgoal.com/news/79209/Perth_Glory_vs_Melbourne_City.html


EDIT: Spotto:! 22:30 seconds in - front and centre of a camera shot, mask NOT over his nose. :redcard: :rof:

[skullboy]

Just what we need, another assistant coach.

Makes sense - we’ve got a squad full of assistant players.

[The Dunster]

Makes sense - we’ve got a squad full of assistant players.

:lulzturtle:

[Bremsstrahlung]

Traore gets 5 weeks for striking referee multiple times.
FMD.
Fukovic got 12 months (????) and missed the Olympics.

If they really want to punish him, make him sign with us to play out the season.

[Jeterpool]

5 weeks is a joke. Far too lenient for striking out at an official.

[belchardo]

Agreed. Referees should go on strike. Or worse, send every goal and tackle to be reviewed by VAR.

[Retro Jet]

Agreed. Referees should go on strike. Or worse, send every goal and tackle to be reviewed by VAR.

We'll be playing longer than gridiron :popcorn:

[skullboy]

Harper likes the Jets, Problem is were always shit so fans think there hate us

Hahahahahaha!!

Harper HATES the Jets with a passion. He is the worst of the lot, he makes Bosnich look like a gold member. Listen to the nonsense he carried on with during and after the smurf penalty decision. Or any game really.

[My2BobsWorth]

Hahahahahaha!!

Harper HATES the Jets with a passion. He is the worst of the lot, he makes Bosnich look like a gold member. Listen to the nonsense he carried on with during and after the smurf penalty decision. Or any game really.

No you are wrong

[Jeterpool]

Hahahahahaha!!

Harper HATES the Jets with a passion. He is the worst of the lot, he makes Bosnich look like a gold member. Listen to the nonsense he carried on with during and after the smurf penalty decision. Or any game really.

I'm not convinced. I think he likes the Jets more than Speed, Slater, etc. In fact I think he's our biggest advocate outside Ben Homer

[belchardo]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/sydney-fc-macarthur-unveil-60m-plans-for-centres-of-excellence-20210513-p57rq7.html

meanwhile, for clubs that have money...

[Couscous]

Congratulations to the new A-league premiers, Melbourne City FC. A well-managed club.

[Jeterpool]

Congratulations to the new A-league premiers, Melbourne City FC. A well- financed club.

Fixed it for you

[StannyCFCJET]

Fixed it for you

Wish we were that well financed

[belchardo]

Not a bad weekend for the city group. I'm sure they rate winning the a-league as highly as the EPL.

[belchardo]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/06/04/a-league-clubs-withdraw-from-champions-league-could-face-sanctions/

All three Australian teams have withdrawn from this years champions league.

I can fully understand why, but I can imagine the AFC throwing the book at them and the a-league.

[Jeterpool]

I wonder what happened to Tete Yengi this season. He has been on the injured list since April 12th with a foot injury and an expected return of 4-6 weeks. He's still down for 1-2 weeks.

Anyone with any idea what's gone on?

[Thomas477]

I wonder what happened to Tete Yengi this season. He has been on the injured list since April 12th with a foot injury and an expected return of 4-6 weeks. He's still down for 1-2 weeks.

Anyone with any idea what's gone on?

Ah, the old 4-6 weeks injury

[Bremsstrahlung]

Gone to see Bridges’ physio

[Jeterpool]

Apparently a significant announcement will be made by the club at midday today.

[StannyCFCJET]

Apparently a significant announcement will be made by the club at midday today.

Whose saying that?

[Buddha]

Joey Lynch

Probably Boogs retiring

[StannyCFCJET]

Joey Lynch

Probably Boogs retiring

Sad day for Newy if thats the case

[Buddha]

Sad day for Newy if thats the case
His best is long gone and we cant carry both him and NTS anymore.

[StannyCFCJET]

His best is long gone and we cant carry both him and NTS anymore.

Doesnt change that facts and it will take alot to replace his leadership and organisation at the back, Id keep NTS over him but he isnt much of a talker

[Buddha]

Doesnt change that facts and it will take alot to replace his leadership and organisation at the back, Id keep NTS over him but he isnt much of a talker

His leadership and organisation at the back that has led to many goals being shipped over the last few years? sure

[StannyCFCJET]

His leadership and organisation at the back that has led to many goals being shipped over the last few years? sure

We always look way worse at the back when he isn't fit is my main take away

[Jeterpool]

His leadership and organisation at the back that has led to many goals being shipped over the last few years? sure

People forget that before Boogaard came, the year we had under Stubbins there was zero leadership in the team. Nobody was vocal and we shipped 2.04 goals on average per game.

In the last 4 seasons with NTS and Boogaard there we have shipped 1.34 (GF Season), 1.48 (Merrick), 1.54 (Merrick/Deans/Robbo) and 1.46 (Deans) goals per game.

By comparison, our goals scored in the same period are 2.03, 1.33, 1.23 and 0.92.

Teams are always going to score goals against you. My thinking is that had we had a more functioning attack (i.e. attackers and midfielders) in that time that a) we would be defending less and b) we would have won more and been more successful.

Had we been more successful, we probably wouldn't be questioning this and looking at him AND Nikolai for the partnership they are - one of the best in our history.

HE's a smart footballer and when he does leave us, his absence will be missed and not easily replaced - much like we missed Dimi this year.

Agree that his best is behind on the field and I reckon had it not been for COVID and Donachie going overseas he may not have gone around again this year, but you cannot understate the positive impact that he's had on our club.

[Bon]

People forget that before Boogaard came, the year we had under Stubbins there was zero leadership in the team. Nobody was vocal and we shipped 2.04 goals on average per game.

In the last 4 seasons with NTS and Boogaard there we have shipped 1.34 (GF Season), 1.48 (Merrick), 1.54 (Merrick/Deans/Robbo) and 1.46 (Deans) goals per game.

By comparison, our goals scored in the same period are 2.03, 1.33, 1.23 and 0.92.

Teams are always going to score goals against you. My thinking is that had we had a more functioning attack (i.e. attackers and midfielders) in that time that a) we would be defending less and b) we would have won more and been more successful.

Had we been more successful, we probably wouldn't be questioning this and looking at him AND Nikolai for the partnership they are - one of the best in our history.

HE's a smart footballer and when he does leave us, his absence will be missed and not easily replaced - much like we missed Dimi this year.

Agree that his best is behind on the field and I reckon had it not been for COVID and Donachie going overseas he may not have gone around again this year, but you cannot understate the positive impact that he's had on our club.

Spot on, mate!

[Bon]

Yeah, confirmed it is Boogs retiring..

[Alton]

Yeah, confirmed it is Boogs retiring..

Donachie must be coming back

[The Dunster]

Boogs is one of the best footballers I have seen in the A-league.
Champion footballer who will be very difficult to replace.

[Frodo]

I may have been one of the people thinking we need to move on from Boogs this off season.

But that doesn't mean I don't understand how good a CB he was for us and how good a leader, and bloke by all accounts, he is/was. Boogs and NTS was a terrific CB pairing compared to everyone else I've seen in this league.

I hope he walks straight into a role on our bench, we still need his skillset just in a different capacity.

[Jeterpool]

I may have been one of the people thinking we need to move on from Boogs this off season.

But that doesn't mean I don't understand how good a CB he was for us and how good a leader, and bloke by all accounts, he is/was. Boogs and NTS was a terrific CB pairing compared to everyone else I've seen in this league.

I hope he walks straight into a role on our bench, we still need his skillset just in a different capacity.

I agree with all that you say. The timing was right for all.

[Macca]

One thing I underestimated about Boogs for quite a few years was his ability on the ball. He has been by a long way our best ball playing CB in recent times, with great composure and calmness on the ball and fantastic passing range. The possession side of our game has suffered big time whenever he has been out, and whenever we have watched NTS or Jackson try to fill his shoes in playing the ball out from the back, pinging switches and penetrating lines with passes, his absence has been noted.

I don't know enough about Donachie as to whether he fill this role for us if he is to step in next season, but if not we will have a lot of work to do in adjusting how we play.

This to say nothing of intangibles and leadership, of which I'm sure he brought a lot as well.

I wouldn't have been disappointed had he gone around again.

[mic22]

The way he relentlessly hacked Berisha, with a smile on his face... I'll never forget that.
Thanks Boogs!

[Ghost of Plague]

Another gypo gone.
Still too many hovering around.
But its a start.
Next.

[Jeterpool]

Another gypo gone.
Still too many hovering around.
But its a start.
Next.

But he played for us first in the NSL. He also gave the ball to Vidmar to assist Griff scoring inthe grand final.

I'd say he's more a mole.

[My2BobsWorth]

Boogs, Topor and Johnny K are better midfielders than the ones that we have had for years, thats the problem

[Frodo]

Boogs, Topor and Johnny K are better midfielders than the ones that we have had for years, thats the problem

I mean yeah... right up until the have to run all around the pitch and then try to pass under pressure.

I'll admit they are all good passers, but let's not let things get out of hand.


Also, has anyone forgotten that Victory won the spoon this year?? Cause I haven't, lol.

[Bon]

Also, has anyone forgotten that Victory won the spoon this year?? Cause I haven't, lol.

This... hahaha

[Retro Jet]

Also, has anyone forgotten that Victory won the spoon this year?? Cause I haven't, lol.

I'm still p!ssin' myself :rof:

After the sh!t season we've had? That win last night was a release of the pressure valve.
Two things I can think of to have possibly made that win sweeter are:-
a) the winning goal coming from a controversial VAR decision...in the 96th minute.
b) the result in another multiverse sends the Tards down a division.

[Ghost of Plague]

But he played for us first in the NSL. He also gave the ball to Vidmar to assist Griff scoring inthe grand final.

I'd say he's more a mole.

As much as a statue of Boogaard and McBreen arm in arm would be fantastic for the local pigeon population im inclined to let him walk and we'll call it square.

Legit though the bloke is a ****ing gypo never forget that.

[traffic light]

Retiring captain Nigel Boogaard was farewelled along with leading scorer Roy O'Donovan, Ali Abbas, Matt Millar and Jack Simmons. Also leaving are loan players Luka Prso, Ramy Najjarine, Liridon Krasniqi and Syahrian Abimanyu.

[mge61]

Retiring captain Nigel Boogaard was farewelled along with leading scorer Roy O'Donovan, Ali Abbas, Matt Millar and Jack Simmons. Also leaving are loan players Luka Prso, Ramy Najjarine, Liridon Krasniqi and Syahrian Abimanyu.

Noticed Mattiske was not on the departures list.

[Buddha]

Dylan Wenzel-Halls off to Western United

[turbojetfireV8]

Lawrie walks away from Jets...


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A-League soccer: Lawrie McKinna calls it quits after five years at helm of Newcastle Jets
James GardinerJames Gardiner
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DEPARTING: Jets general manager Lawrie McKinna has resigned.

LAWRIE McKinna is confident that the Newcastle Jets are in stable position and believes the time is right to "move on" from the A-League club.

McKinna resigned as general manager on Tuesday, almost five years to the day after he took charge of the embattled A-League franchise.
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The affable Scotsman will continue in an ambassadorial role, but will no longer be involved in the day-to-day running of the organisation.

"The big thing for me is that the club is stable, it is moving ahead," McKinna told the Newcastle Herald. "The new owners are investing money into the club, with a view to it being sold down the track. The club is on the right track now. It is time for me to move on."

McKinna was moved sideways in January after a new consortium of four owners of rival A-League clubs took control of the Jets following the exit of Chinese businessman Martin Lee, who had his licence revoked.

Shane Mattiske was appointed executive chairman.

McKinna played a key part in Lee purchasing the Jets from Football Australia in 2016, and has since been the face and the brains behind the operation.

He helped take the Jets to a grand final, ensured the team had a greater community presence and used his own money to keep the organisation afloat after Lee stopped funding the club.

"When Martin Lee bought the club he had three goals," McKinna said. "One was to qualify for the Asian Champions League, one was to get into a grand final and the other one was to break even. We did two out of three. We got the losses down but that was when Martin pulled the pin on funding.

"That 18 months before the new ownership came in was hard. The team is here for the long run now."

READ MORE: PAPAS IN WINGS AS JETS READY FOR REBUILD

Lee left more than $12 million in debt. A liquidator's report filed with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) in April revealed that McKinna had injected $365,000 in an effort to keep the club going.

Mattiske praised McKinna's contribution.

"There is gratitude from everyone associated with the club, whether it is our fans, members, all the staff and playing group,"Mattiske said. "Lawrie has been a central figure in the club and has given his all to support the Jets. This is a change that we will have to adapt to. He has been a multi-skilled administrator.

"His contribution across the board, whether it is in business, whether it is putting us into a position now where we have young talent like Archie Goodwin coming through the club, whether it is the contribution to charity and the broader football community ... all of that is absolutely recognised and a legacy that Lawrie leaves here.

"We are comforted by the fact that he will continue to play an ambassadorial role for us moving forward. Those people skills and the connection he has to all members of our community is something that can continue. That is a real positive."

The Jets are expected to appoint Arthur Papas as coach next week.

However, McKinna's departure leaves a major hole in football nous and experience in the Jets' front office.

"With the change, we are building a new football structure," Mattiske said. "The business will have to adapt and build other roles. That is something we are addressing."


McKinna said he did not have a position to go to.

"I am looking for a new job but it doesn't have to be in football," he said

[turbojetfireV8]

so if Lawrie has walked, will Griff stay??

[belchardo]

Anybody heard anything about the new season? When does it start? When does the draw happen?

[Jeterpool]

Someone said 30th October was mentioned in an interview with a Perth podcast

[Buddha]

Someone said 30th October was mentioned in an interview with a Perth podcast

Terry McFlynn confirmed 30th Oct

[Jeterpool]

Terry McFlynn confirmed 30th Oct

That was it!