Daily Australian News Thread

[plague]

Torch/bottle opener? I didn’t get one of those.

Tell me more.

you got hosed.
its the tits.


literally just a silver thumb drive looking thing that has a bottle opener in it but has an LED torch as well.
Griff just pretty much solved global warming in one hit.

Hail Griff.

oh and it has a Jets logo too.
absolute boss piece of kit. already hooked the spare one up to my golf bag.

[turbojetfireV8]

we actually got one (the exact same one) last year as well you realise don't yas...

[Premy]

also, top marks for the 'Everything Football' crew for their service and helpfulness. I see they are moving into the Kotara Death Star in the next few weeks.
get out there and support them, they are good people.
Had nothing but ordinary service from this mob to say the lease.
From bulk orders going missing and given blatant lies to their incompetence to going to collect my jets membership pack and being told they don't have it in stock and also being refused to exchange a present that was the wrong size that had never been worn and still had the receipt.
I don't get the love this mob get, from top to bottom this place is full of incompetence.

[plague]

Had nothing but ordinary service from this mob to say the lease.
From bulk orders going missing and given blatant lies to their incompetence to going to collect my jets membership pack and being told they don't have it in stock and also being refused to exchange a present that was the wrong size that had never been worn and still had the receipt.
I don't get the love this mob get, from top to bottom this place is full of incompetence.

Ok fine now I hate them too.
Fold the club and that shop all at once.

[turbojetfireV8]

the fact we can now go somewhere that doesn't think you've come in to buy Knytes gear coz real Newy fans only follow Knytes, and that it's obviously a small family run business who by the sounds have had teething problems getting it right and need to learn the balance between good customer service (e.g. on exchanges) and pissing people off (hopefully it will come but they may need to be warned what consumer law is if they are contravening it), I'm inclined to want to give them my business because I support the concept of a football one-stop store, I can walk in there and there is not a single eggball in sight for a start, that's gotta be worth at least a thumbs up for that...

[plague]

the fact we can now go somewhere that doesn't think you've come in to buy Knytes gear coz real Newy fans only follow Knytes, and that it's obviously a small family run business who by the sounds have had teething problems getting it right and need to learn the balance between good customer service (e.g. on exchanges) and pissing people off (hopefully it will come but they may need to be warned what consumer law is if they are contravening it), I'm inclined to want to give them my business because I support the concept of a football one-stop store, I can walk in there and there is not a single eggball in sight for a start, that's gotta be worth at least a thumbs up for that...

Ok I like them again.
Everything Football forever!!!!

[sammydog]

I got one when I picked up membership pack from Everything Football.

Agree with Plague; it's brilliant.

I got my kit from Everything Football.

Now I feel like I got stooged.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Craig Foster has nominated for FFA board.
Finally putting his hand up to do something instead of talking shit and degrading others.

[Couscous]

He's possibly at the height of his popularity. He did a good job at the World Cup.

[MFKS]

Craig Foster has nominated for FFA board.
Finally putting his hand up to do something instead of talking shit and degrading others.

Exactly why the hate towards Foster??

The bloke does his job whuch is too speak passionately about the game exactly as he is paid to do


Bloke at least has the cajones to challenge stuff instead of being an FFA puppet such as Slater Bozza and co


I reckon Foster has some issues with his ridiculous attempts to bring social issues into football discussion from his SBS soapbox

But when.it comes to football coverage in this country we need 50 more blokes like him.

[StannyCFCJET]

Exactly why the hate towards Foster??

The bloke does his job whuch is too speak passionately about the game exactly as he is paid to do


Bloke at least has the cajones to challenge stuff instead of being an FFA puppet such as Slater Bozza and co


I reckon Foster has some issues with his ridiculous attempts to bring social issues into football discussion from his SBS soapbox

But when.it comes to football coverage in this country we need 50 more blokes like him.

I actually agree with you

[plague]

Craig Foster has nominated for FFA board.
Finally putting his hand up to do something instead of talking shit and degrading others.

nah, hes gonna find that sweet spot right in the middle where things that go well are 'his idea' and things that turn to poop are 'things i objected to but got voted in anyway'.

[plague]

Exactly why the hate towards Foster??

The bloke does his job whuch is too speak passionately about the game exactly as he is paid to do


Bloke at least has the cajones to challenge stuff instead of being an FFA puppet such as Slater Bozza and co


I reckon Foster has some issues with his ridiculous attempts to bring social issues into football discussion from his SBS soapbox

But when.it comes to football coverage in this country we need 50 more blokes like him.

because all he really does is talk really loud and often and pretends hes doing something.


hang on nevermind now I know why you get along so well with him.

[Bremsstrahlung]

because all he really does is talk really loud and often and pretends hes doing something.


hang on nevermind now I know why you get along so well with him.

In a nutshell.

[pv4]

nah, hes gonna find that sweet spot right in the middle where things that go well are 'his idea' and things that turn to poop are 'things i objected to but got voted in anyway'.

It will be very interesting to see how much hindsight lessons Foz attempts to throw around, for sure.

[Couscous]

Let he who has played for Palace and coached Nerds FC cast the first stone.

[Imyourhero]

Arzani has possibly torn his ACL overnight

[Jetmaster]

Arzani has possibly torn his ACL overnight

Overdoing evasions no doubt.

Kaz 2.0

[belchardo]

feel sorry for the guy.

[Imyourhero]

I would never wish an ACL injury on anyone, excessive evades or not.

[Jeterpool]

feel sorry for the guy.


I would never wish an ACL injury on anyone, excessive evades or not.

+1

[Hutcho]

+1
people on talk celtic forum hoping they can get out of the loan. talked about cold hearted.

[The Dunster]

Arzani has possibly torn his ACL overnight

That used to mean the Jets will be making an offer for him in the January transfer window.

[380]

That used to mean the Jets will be making an offer for him in the January transfer window.

Middleby on the phone to his agent now selling the no medical process we have in place.

[Couscous]

This is from Bob's wiki page:


Newcastle Jets
Middleby resigned as CEO for the Newcastle Jets in the A-League on 7 January 2015. Upon retiring, Middleby said "I will use the next few weeks to support the mid-season review process". He is expected to leave the club by 24 January 2015, when A-League competition resumes after the 2015 Asian Cup break.

Can someone update this please? His management career is more interesting than that.

[belchardo]

http://believeinourgame.com/

Craig Foster has made himself a website.

[Couscous]

I fu¢king love that guy.

[belchardo]

from the Guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2018/nov/19/the-beginning-of-a-new-era-ffas-agm-and-board-election-live


four new directors of the FFA board are, in elected order, Heather Reid, Joseph Carrozzi, Chris Nikou and Remo Nogarotto.

foster proves once again he is all talk and no walk by withdrawing before the vote.

Glad Reid got on there, she should be a strong advocate for a canberra a-league team. Also like Remo.

[StannyCFCJET]

from the Guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2018/nov/19/the-beginning-of-a-new-era-ffas-agm-and-board-election-live



foster proves once again he is all talk and no walk by withdrawing before the vote.

Glad Reid got on there, she should be a strong advocate for a canberra a-league team. Also like Remo.

He didnt have the support to get the votes? Had no choice really

[Bremsstrahlung]

Typical Foster.

[Couscous]

The good news is that Foz's website is still up.

[plague]

REMO!!!!!!!!!!
Proper Newy boy.
No doubt will seek the counsel of Griff to unlock the secret to turning bread and fish into a feast for the people.

Football is saved.

Hail Griff, and Hail Remo.

[Bremsstrahlung]

“The game is not ready for a former player chair” - Foster.

[plague]

“The game is not ready for a former player chair” - Foster.

Foster is the kid at school who swears he dumped his girlfriend first.

[plague]

and Lowy STILL having a cry on the way out.
he can **** off and enjoy Daddys money now.
its over.

[MFKS]

REMO!!!!!!!!!!
Proper Newy boy.
No doubt will seek the counsel of Griff to unlock the secret to turning bread and fish into a feast for the people.

Football is saved.

Hail Griff, and Hail Remo.

Happy Remo got on there but I dont think anything is changing any time soon

The bloke who has been elected to replace Lowy

Exactly what is his vision for the game??

None

Just Lowys lap dog continuing to run things

If anything this whole farce has shown is how much these State Federations need to be smashed into a million pieces

They are the biggest Cancer in Oz Football behind the PFA

[Hunter403]

Happy Remo got on there but I dont think anything is changing any time soon

The bloke who has been elected to replace Lowy

Exactly what is his vision for the game??

None

Just Lowys lap dog continuing to run things

If anything this whole farce has shown is how much these State Federations need to be smashed into a million pieces

They are the biggest Cancer in Oz Football behind the PFA

No pi55 take here: Explain your opinion regarding the state federations and PFA.

[belchardo]

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/canberra/programs/breakfast/breakfast/10494688

interview with heather reid on local ABC. Interview starts at 1:38:30.

also a guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/nov/20/ffas-new-board-has-its-work-cut-out-establishing-unity-of-purpose

[MFKS]

No pi55 take here: Explain your opinion regarding the state federations and PFA.

The PFA are responsible for driving up wages so much so that we can not afford more teams as it requires millionaires to run a club in the HAL

As a result of these excessive wages we are limited in potential HAL sides as the costs to run a club are so high the demand isnt there

Add in to the equation that this also prevents us getting a second tier etc

This all effects our ability to develop players and youth as it limits opportunity for players in general

As a result the very thing that they are meant to be seeking opportunities for professional footballers are limited as they.actually pursue better conditions for the existing players

So they more or less see the Hoffmans and Boogaards and Fitzgeralds on 6 figures whilst stifling the opportunities for all the 17/18 year olds out there to get into the comp

So the PFA see us with a 3 million + Salary Cap mandated on all clubs when the reality is the money generated in the code isnt there for this figure

If it was 50% of this figure we could have a 20 team top flight overnight and 2nd division and a 3rd divsion in no time what so ever

But hey lets just keep the status quo and over psy players whilst sacrificing the codes potential development and s
uccess

As for the State Federations

You do realise these pricks have had too much power for eons??
Even before Lowy they were a scourge back in the old Soccer Australia days

Before Lowy got the arse they still controlled Oz football with a ridiculous amount of the votes being in their hands
Even with the changes and the introduction of the Fifa enforced chanfe that saw more groups involved they didnt really lose out.They still more or less control things

Dont forget it is these clowns who elected the board yesterday
It is these clowns who have run the game into the ground as they Rubber stamped Lowys shenanigans
It is these clowns who went oyt of their way to stifle any change in the congress

You want to see how short sighted and self interested these clowns are
Many if them yesterday voted against upgrading the status of the Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) along the procees so that sometime in the near future they can join the congress and vote as another interest group

Exactly why they are doing this defies logic but more reflects their desire to not share power or allow growth of the game

#****Em

[Negative Police]

You guys dont deserve the Aleague. You need the grubbiest mismanaged football the world has ever seen in the NSL.

Then youd run back to the other sports quick as lightning like 98% of Australia did before.

[Hunter403]

The PFA are responsible for driving up wages so much so that we can not afford more teams as it requires millionaires to run a club in the HAL

As a result of these excessive wages we are limited in potential HAL sides as the costs to run a club are so high the demand isnt there

Add in to the equation that this also prevents us getting a second tier etc

This all effects our ability to develop players and youth as it limits opportunity for players in general

As a result the very thing that they are meant to be seeking opportunities for professional footballers are limited as they.actually pursue better conditions for the existing players

So they more or less see the Hoffmans and Boogaards and Fitzgeralds on 6 figures whilst stifling the opportunities for all the 17/18 year olds out there to get into the comp

So the PFA see us with a 3 million + Salary Cap mandated on all clubs when the reality is the money generated in the code isnt there for this figure

If it was 50% of this figure we could have a 20 team top flight overnight and 2nd division and a 3rd divsion in no time what so ever

But hey lets just keep the status quo and over psy players whilst sacrificing the codes potential development and s
uccess

As for the State Federations

You do realise these pricks have had too much power for eons??
Even before Lowy they were a scourge back in the old Soccer Australia days

Before Lowy got the arse they still controlled Oz football with a ridiculous amount of the votes being in their hands
Even with the changes and the introduction of the Fifa enforced chanfe that saw more groups involved they didnt really lose out.They still more or less control things

Dont forget it is these clowns who elected the board yesterday
It is these clowns who have run the game into the ground as they Rubber stamped Lowys shenanigans
It is these clowns who went oyt of their way to stifle any change in the congress

You want to see how short sighted and self interested these clowns are
Many if them yesterday voted against upgrading the status of the Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) along the procees so that sometime in the near future they can join the congress and vote as another interest group

Exactly why they are doing this defies logic but more reflects their desire to not share power or allow growth of the game

#****Em

Appreciate your views and I can see where you are coming from.

If we halved the figure in an effort to get 20 teams as you suggest, can we extrapolate that all players would take a 50% pay cut? If we do, do you think the likes of Petratos, Ugar and any number of better A league players would be here, or would they be off to some other Asian league where they can earn a lot more than here? What would the standard of your 20 team comp be like when every kid that wants more than $25k to play football (live on) packs his bag for India, Malaysia etc? Would supporters go? Would it get tv coverage?

Again, not taking the pi55, just seeking your views.

[MFKS]

Appreciate your views and I can see where you are coming from.

If we halved the figure in an effort to get 20 teams as you suggest, can we extrapolate that all players would take a 50% pay cut? If we do, do you think the likes of Petratos, Ugar and any number of better A league players would be here, or would they be off to some other Asian league where they can earn a lot more than here? What would the standard of your 20 team comp be like when every kid that wants more than $25k to play football (live on) packs his bag for India, Malaysia etc? Would supporters go? Would it get tv coverage?

Again, not taking the pi55, just seeking your views.

Of course the players aint gonna take a pay cut of that magnitude voluntarily

Thing is we had that type of salary cap in Season 1 of the HAL and for some reason they have managed to double it in 13 years and I would doubt the quality of play crowds interest etc has increased that much

Absolutely scandalous that they have got away with it

As for players leaving here and going elsewhere for better money isnt that ideally what we want??

The more guys that can **** off to Europe and get rich better experienced etc then ultimately.better for the Socceroos and to inspire the kids to be like Mooy Cahill Kewell etc

What we have now is a welfare league where you have plenty of blokes just sucking a pay cheque out of it for 10/15 years aka Boogaard BK Hoffman etc who are plain well not good enough for O/S action

This also has the effect of killing opportunity for younger players as spots for them just aint there like they should be

Then you throw in the fact that our blokes can be well paid in the HAL and it doesnt motivate them to stick it out in Europe and make it

Blokes like Birraz Goodwin Brillante etc can easily come back to HAL and pick up 6 figures when really they should be desperate to make the break through in Europe

The current model is ****ed and has little benefit to anyone except acting as a welfare payment for the status quo in the league

[The Dunster]

Of course the players aint gonna take a pay cut of that magnitude voluntarily

Thing is we had that type of salary cap in Season 1 of the HAL and for some reason they have managed to double it in 13 years and I would doubt the quality of play crowds interest etc has increased that much

Absolutely scandalous that they have got away with it

As for players leaving here and going elsewhere for better money isnt that ideally what we want??

The more guys that can **** off to Europe and get rich better experienced etc then ultimately.better for the Socceroos and to inspire the kids to be like Mooy Cahill Kewell etc

What we have now is a welfare league where you have plenty of blokes just sucking a pay cheque out of it for 10/15 years aka Boogaard BK Hoffman etc who are plain well not good enough for O/S action

This also has the effect of killing opportunity for younger players as spots for them just aint there like they should be

Then you throw in the fact that our blokes can be well paid in the HAL and it doesnt motivate them to stick it out in Europe and make it

Blokes like Birraz Goodwin Brillante etc can easily come back to HAL and pick up 6 figures when really they should be desperate to make the break through in Europe

The current model is ****ed and has little benefit to anyone except acting as a welfare payment for the status quo in the league

I think the better option would be full disclosure of wages / remuneration like they do in the MLS.
The reason for this is that full information is necessary for any market to function.
Without prices being known the bargaining processes is inefficient and wages will not be a true reflection on the real value of a player.
It will also weed out the ridiculously high wages some players are on and prop up those not being paid equitably.

[goaliepersempre]

Its a difficult position, we want our league to get better. But at the moment its stale...

So many have tried it out in europe but are back within a year or so because they can get a cruisy job in the A league and have the image oh yeah i played in europe and boom theres a few extra $$...

Sometimes the quality of play might not be that much better then in aus in the lower leagues... but the wealth of players/games played and the much higher pressure on results and performance... factor in why more players need to head OS.. this isnt Euro snobbery.. the best players in the world are in Europe period... thats the benchmark.

Hell I look at some of the aussies in the swiss league... play alright for the first 2 months but then the pressure sets weather sucks still have to play and more games played and boom they dissapear...

[MFKS]

Its a difficult position, we want our league to get better. But at the moment its stale...

So many have tried it out in europe but are back within a year or so because they can get a cruisy job in the A league and have the image oh yeah i played in europe and boom theres a few extra $$...

Sometimes the quality of play might not be that much better then in aus in the lower leagues... but the wealth of players/games played and the much higher pressure on results and performance... factor in why more players need to head OS.. this isnt Euro snobbery.. the best players in the world are in Europe period... thats the benchmark.

Hell I look at some of the aussies in the swiss league... play alright for the first 2 months but then the pressure sets weather sucks still have to play and more games played and boom they dissapear...


It is stale because the clowns at FFA have no plan on expansion
It is stale because the clowns at FFA have no plan on achieving a second tier
It is stale because the clowns at the FFA have no plan on allowing existing clubs in but would rather invite in created franchises

This is how wank they are getting now that they are looking at conglomerates of areas and trying to create a club like they doing with SE Melbourne and Southern Expansion and will actually over look existing clubs and supporters

This just shows that these clowns dont get it

[Roundball Enthusiast]

It is stale because the clowns at FFA have no plan on expansion
It is stale because the clowns at FFA have no plan on achieving a second tier
It is stale because the clowns at the FFA have no plan on allowing existing clubs in but would rather invite in created franchises

This is how wank they are getting now that they are looking at conglomerates of areas and trying to create a club like they doing with SE Melbourne and Southern Expansion and will actually over look existing clubs and supporters

This just shows that these clowns dont get it

It's actually stale because the league has been running for 13 years.

All the people who watched 13 year (or so) ago, are us, and a few years younger, who are too old and shit to be good enough to play in the HAL.
The kids (4-7) who watched 13 years ago, are just starting to be good enough (would be 17-20?) to get a look in at the HAL level.

When we get a shit load more of these kids coming through, in a couple years, they will get runs in HAL clubs and will push people like Boogs, Hoff etc out, as they're just as good and half or one third the cost.

This is when we'll have enough talent locally to have 15-20 top flight clubs. We don't have enough quality nationally to have 10 teams be competitive, let alone 20.

[MFKS]

It's actually stale because the league has been running for 13 years.

All the people who watched 13 year (or so) ago, are us, and a few years younger, who are too old and shit to be good enough to play in the HAL.
The kids (4-7) who watched 13 years ago, are just starting to be good enough (would be 17-20?) to get a look in at the HAL level.

When we get a shit load more of these kids coming through, in a couple years, they will get runs in HAL clubs and will push people like Boogs, Hoff etc out, as they're just as good and half or one third the cost.

This is when we'll have enough talent locally to have 15-20 top flight clubs. We don't have enough quality nationally to have 10 teams be competitive, let alone 20.

Disagree that we dont have the talent for 15 to 20 teams.

Plemty of blokes are stuck in the NPL and just never get given the opportunity due to the current model

Look at our side for example
Vujica
Jackson
Thurgate
Cowburn.

None of these blokes are certain starters in our side but they are more than capable of being involved at HAL level

You put 20 teams in the League and thet start getting opportunities as starters not fighting for scraps like we have in a 9 team league where each club wastes 5 spots on Foreigners


Disagree also on the kids coming through thing too

If this was accurate we would have 5 bays of 16 year old active hooligans if this was the case

HAL model hasnt worked

It is just as broken as the NSL was with different failings

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Disagree that we dont have the talent for 15 to 20 teams.

Plemty of blokes are stuck in the NPL and just never get given the opportunity due to the current model

Look at our side for example
Vujica
Jackson
Thurgate
Cowburn.

None of these blokes are certain starters in our side but they are more than capable of being involved at HAL level

You put 20 teams in the League and thet start getting opportunities as starters not fighting for scraps like we have in a 9 team league where each club wastes 5 spots on Foreigners


Disagree also on the kids coming through thing too

If this was accurate we would have 5 bays of 16 year old active hooligans if this was the case

HAL model hasnt worked

It is just as broken as the NSL was with different failings

Na, Yeah. Ur always right hey Member.

Thats why the game is dead in this country and participation numbers are the lowest they've ever been.

Newy Bay 1 is 70% 15-19 year olds and most of the other Aleague active support is the same. Guess you're right there too.

[Jeterpool]

My 2c, 2 years ago many would have put Andrew Nabbout on the same list of players not good enough to cut it as a starter.

If these players get the first team opportunity, that break they need, perhaps they will develop. Cowburn was a key starter a few years ago playing right and left back.

[Hunter403]

Of course the players aint gonna take a pay cut of that magnitude voluntarily

Thing is we had that type of salary cap in Season 1 of the HAL and for some reason they have managed to double it in 13 years and I would doubt the quality of play crowds interest etc has increased that much

Absolutely scandalous that they have got away with it

As for players leaving here and going elsewhere for better money isnt that ideally what we want??

The more guys that can **** off to Europe and get rich better experienced etc then ultimately.better for the Socceroos and to inspire the kids to be like Mooy Cahill Kewell etc

What we have now is a welfare league where you have plenty of blokes just sucking a pay cheque out of it for 10/15 years aka Boogaard BK Hoffman etc who are plain well not good enough for O/S action

This also has the effect of killing opportunity for younger players as spots for them just aint there like they should be

Then you throw in the fact that our blokes can be well paid in the HAL and it doesnt motivate them to stick it out in Europe and make it

Blokes like Birraz Goodwin Brillante etc can easily come back to HAL and pick up 6 figures when really they should be desperate to make the break through in Europe

The current model is ****ed and has little benefit to anyone except acting as a welfare payment for the status quo in the league

Will they all go to Europe, or will the less skilled ones end up in better paid leagues such as India, Malaysia etc (assuming wages here fall)? If our league doesn't match other leagues of a similar standard (or inferior) when it comes to wages, why would they come back? If you don't make it in Europe, then you don't make it. I think I would prefer the likes of the players you mentioned in our league, helping it draw TV, crowds etc, rather than them heading off to South Africa, USA, China or where ever. If our better players left the league, do you think Fox would continue to pay?

[MFKS]

Will they all go to Europe, or will the less skilled ones end up in better paid leagues such as India, Malaysia etc (assuming wages here fall)? If our league doesn't match other leagues of a similar standard (or inferior) when it comes to wages, why would they come back? If you don't make it in Europe, then you don't make it. I think I would prefer the likes of the players you mentioned in our league, helping it draw TV, crowds etc, rather than them heading off to South Africa, USA, China or where ever. If our better players left the league, do you think Fox would continue to pay?

Are you saying Hoffman BK and Boogaard are helping to draw TV ratings and crowds because that is the best thing I have ever heard ROFL

As for Foxtel quite frankly I dont give a **** about their interests
PayTV is for all intensive purposes a dead end medium

I would also say that Foxtel have manipulated the game for their benefit the last 13 years and have in a lot of ways done a lot of harm
I wouldnt think that coverage from them is the be all and end all of things

Would a change here even if it meant less $$ be a bad thing if it actually got us the exposure or promotion the code needs ??

As for your concern about blokes going to Leagues like India and Malaysia etc

Isnt that already happening now in recent years??

Didnt we have a pile of Socceroos go play in China when they were throwing the stupid cash about??
What about all the Skips going and getting paid at cashed up Gulf Clubs??


Plenty of people already getting out of Oz for the $$ Why would your suggestion be any different??

[MFKS]

Na, Yeah. Ur always right hey Member.

Thats why the game is dead in this country and participation numbers are the lowest they've ever been.

Newy Bay 1 is 70% 15-19 year olds and most of the other Aleague active support is the same. Guess you're right there too.

High participation rates the code has had for years

This is in spite of the poor administration off the field
This is in spite of the over the top costs
This is in spite if the governments failing to provide adequate amounts of playing facilities

Bay 1 was barely half full the last couple of weeks so 200/300 kids is no great wave of popularity that is gonna carry the game into a rosy future

Make it 2000/3000 and your point has some bearing

[plague]

biggest problem game has had is that the clubs need to learn that long term success means getting your fans to cheer for laundry, not players.

Victory have done it, WSW too (although their stadium issues have stalled that momentum).
The rest seem to have no idea.

[MFKS]

biggest problem game has had is that the clubs need to learn that long term success means getting your fans to cheer for laundry, not players.

Victory have done it, WSW too (although their stadium issues have stalled that momentum).
The rest seem to have no idea.

Biggest problem is the model

Reading tonight that Dec12 is the date the FFA will decide which of these bids gets to "buy" their way into the HAL

Whilst ever we have Franchises buying their way in with licence fees then the comp is doomed

No pro/rel when these "Clubs" have to vote on it and they just paid 13 million or whatever fee it is to get in

They aint letting clubs in for free on merit not when they had to bribe their way in

Unfortunate but true but the FFA are actually just digging a bigger hole for the game in this country with their decisions

Also how corrupt is the practice of licensing fees??

[plague]

Biggest problem is the model

Reading tonight that Dec12 is the date the FFA will decide which of these bids gets to "buy" their way into the HAL

Whilst ever we have Franchises buying their way in with licence fees then the comp is doomed

No pro/rel when these "Clubs" have to vote on it and they just paid 13 million or whatever fee it is to get in

They aint letting clubs in for free on merit not when they had to bribe their way in

Unfortunate but true but the FFA are actually just digging a bigger hole for the game in this country with their decisions

Also how corrupt is the practice of licensing fees??

the flipside to that is the fear of pissing away your licence fee by fielding a shit team. Hence owners may try harder if they have more to lose.
prob why Aston Martin owners look after their cars better than blokes with a Datsun 120Y yeah?

you want clubs let in on 'merit'?

hahahha, here comes our Lefty mate Member again.
have you got that full back tattoo of Bob Brown finished yet?

[plague]

and i was under the impression that even though the A-League will be 'run' day to day under its own leadership, the FFA has final say on any sort of promotion/relegation and expansion yeah?

[MFKS]

the flipside to that is the fear of pissing away your licence fee by fielding a shit team. Hence owners may try harder if they have more to lose.
prob why Aston Martin owners look after their cars better than blokes with a Datsun 120Y yeah?

you want clubs let in on 'merit'?

hahahha, here comes our Lefty mate Member again.
have you got that full back tattoo of Bob Brown finished yet?

But look on the brightside

This is the same organisation who bitched to high heavens about Fifa and Qatar buying the World Cup in a bidding process

Then they go set up this farce where they get paid a licence fee to decide on who gets into the comp in what would have to be one of the least transparent processes of all time and is ripe for them to show off all that has been learned from Sepp Platini and co throygh the ages

Not exactly a good look for an organisation whom is trying to be more democratic and transparent

So the hypocrisy is out of this world

I wonder how many paper bags will change hands from the winning bidders??

[The Camel]

Disagree that we dont have the talent for 15 to 20 teams.

Plemty of blokes are stuck in the NPL and just never get given the opportunity due to the current model

Look at our side for example
Vujica
Jackson
Thurgate
Cowburn.

None of these blokes are certain starters in our side but they are more than capable of being involved at HAL level

You put 20 teams in the League and thet start getting opportunities as starters not fighting for scraps like we have in a 9 team league where each club wastes 5 spots on Foreigners


Disagree also on the kids coming through thing too

If this was accurate we would have 5 bays of 16 year old active hooligans if this was the case

HAL model hasnt worked

It is just as broken as the NSL was with different failings

Exactly. Arzani hadn't played Snr football 12 months ago. Dennis Genreau wasn't deemed good enough to get any time at Melb City but plays week in week out in the Eredivisie. There's plenty of talent about just not getting a chance

[The Camel]

Appreciate your views and I can see where you are coming from.

If we halved the figure in an effort to get 20 teams as you suggest, can we extrapolate that all players would take a 50% pay cut? If we do, do you think the likes of Petratos, Ugar and any number of better A league players would be here, or would they be off to some other Asian league where they can earn a lot more than here? What would the standard of your 20 team comp be like when every kid that wants more than $25k to play football (live on) packs his bag for India, Malaysia etc? Would supporters go? Would it get tv coverage?

Again, not taking the pi55, just seeking your views.

The big thing I agree with the Member on is regarding the PFA. They're a selfish ****ing blight on the game. Blokes like Dimi and Ugarkovic would get paid their market worth as they're good players. I have no issue with the Salary Cap at its current level but I ****ing hate that clubs are forced to have a minimum spend which is bloody close to the cap and the minimum salary being $60k. The PFA have ****ed growth and young players with those two. It's why dead weight like BK and Hoole get paid 6 figure sums at a club that can't get anyone else to go there. Instead of a club loosing cash being able to consolidate, give some kids a chance on bugger all coin and make money selling them. You get mercenary players like Reddy playing at 8 clubs in a 10 team league.

[StannyCFCJET]

The big thing I agree with the Member on is regarding the PFA. They're a selfish ****ing blight on the game. Blokes like Dimi and Ugarkovic would get paid their market worth as they're good players. I have no issue with the Salary Cap at its current level but I ****ing hate that clubs are forced to have a minimum spend which is bloody close to the cap and the minimum salary being $60k. The PFA have ****ed growth and young players with those two. It's why dead weight like BK and Hoole get paid 6 figure sums at a club that can't get anyone else to go there. Instead of a club loosing cash being able to consolidate, give some kids a chance on bugger all coin and make money selling them. You get mercenary players like Reddy playing at 8 clubs in a 10 team league.

Lachy Wales was was getting something like 40 bucks a week at the Gypos last year

[plague]

It's why dead weight like BK and Hoole get paid 6 figure sums at a club that can't get anyone else to go there.

nah.
its cheap ass owners hiring bum ass CEO's who sign blokes like that to deals like that.

You blokes think i am kidding with my Middleby talk.
bloke made some absolutely terrible decisions on behalf of the club.

none of them were the PFA's fault.

[The Dunster]

The big thing I agree with the Member on is regarding the PFA. They're a selfish ****ing blight on the game. Blokes like Dimi and Ugarkovic would get paid their market worth as they're good players. I have no issue with the Salary Cap at its current level but I ****ing hate that clubs are forced to have a minimum spend which is bloody close to the cap and the minimum salary being $60k. The PFA have ****ed growth and young players with those two. It's why dead weight like BK and Hoole get paid 6 figure sums at a club that can't get anyone else to go there. Instead of a club loosing cash being able to consolidate, give some kids a chance on bugger all coin and make money selling them. You get mercenary players like Reddy playing at 8 clubs in a 10 team league.

How would you determine a players value ? Goals ? Assists? Evades ? Memberships ? Marketing potential ?

I'm not being critical of you here but it's rare to find any sector of the labour market offering pay / salary based on anything other than the workers ability at the bargaining table.
It's not optimal, but it's unfortunately how it works.
This is why I think publishing player salaries like they do in the MLS is a far more effective and efficient approach.

[plague]

This is why I think publishing player salaries like they do in the MLS is a far more effective and efficient approach.

As much as this helps protect the integrity of a salary capped sport, not sure if it will help keep wages under control.

Managers (who are only doing their job) can point to cashed up asian and gulf clubs as a means of leverage.
and there is always a Middleby around to take the bait.

Esp for a young hyped 'talent' like an Arzani, if he hits the open market, everyone wont care what the other young talent are getting paid if they really want him.

The Jets management is solely responsible for us having 2 x six figure keepers on the books back bn in the day.
They should never have let it happen.

Hopefully though the new A-league management open up transfers between clubs in order to help teams and hopefully spread talent as well.

[The Dunster]

As much as this helps protect the integrity of a salary capped sport, not sure if it will help keep wages under control.

Managers (who are only doing their job) can point to cashed up asian and gulf clubs as a means of leverage.
and there is always a Middleby around to take the bait.

Esp for a young hyped 'talent' like an Arzani, if he hits the open market, everyone wont care what the other young talent are getting paid if they really want him.

The Jets management is solely responsible for us having 2 x six figure keepers on the books back bn in the day.
They should never have let it happen.

Hopefully though the new A-league management open up transfers between clubs in order to help teams and hopefully spread talent as well.

The main reason markets fail is asymmetric information. Publishing wages data lessens this problem.

It would also check ridiculous transactions like those Middleby made as others would have enough information to show it was not an optimal decision.

This is precisely why lenders do credit checks and Insurers have access to databases with respect to medical, crime, driving records... and can even cross reference what you paid previously with other insurers or if you sought a loan elsewhere and failed.

Without this information they simply could not charge customers the correct premiums. Football clubs without full information can't pay optimal wages.

It's got nothing to do with the salary cap.

[plague]

It would also check ridiculous transactions like those Middleby made as others would have enough information to show it was not an optimal decision.


Middleby paid fair market value for both BK and Biraz.
No amount of published information would have prevented him from signing TWO high priced keepers in a salary capped league.

Because that's what he did.

Again, the theory in the textbooks may be legit, but humans are stupid, you gotta account for that.

[plague]

Without this information they simply could not charge customers the correct premiums.

Wait, are you inferring that financial institutions are using this information for the benefit of the 'customer'?

[The Dunster]

Middleby paid fair market value for both BK and Biraz.
No amount of published information would have prevented him from signing TWO high priced keepers in a salary capped league.

Because that's what he did.

Again, the theory in the textbooks may be legit, but humans are stupid, you gotta account for that.

It's empirical Plague not a vague text book model. it's why a lot of businesses gag employees talking about salaries.

I'm not denying that the rational agent is a textbook myth so yes - given the same information people will act differently.

However, it would provide enough of a check/balance for someone to say to Middleby you are offering too much based on what so and so is being paid.

[The Dunster]

Wait, are you inferring that financial institutions are using this information for the benefit of the 'customer'?

Correct in their eyes - not the customers.

[StannyCFCJET]

We had two first team keepers so ofcourse they were both on 6 figures

[MFKS]

As much as this helps protect the integrity of a salary capped sport, not sure if it will help keep wages under control.

Managers (who are only doing their job) can point to cashed up asian and gulf clubs as a means of leverage.
and there is always a Middleby around to take the bait.

Esp for a young hyped 'talent' like an Arzani, if he hits the open market, everyone wont care what the other young talent are getting paid if they really want him.

The Jets management is solely responsible for us having 2 x six figure keepers on the books back bn in the day.
They should never have let it happen.

Hopefully though the new A-league management open up transfers between clubs in order to help teams and hopefully spread talent as well.

But if you have a look at it a lot of the things in the HAL are not first world practice

Salary Cap
Minimum wage spend
No Transfers between clubs
No Promotion No Relegation
Creating of teams through a franchise process etc etc

How about we acknowledge that 1 other country the USA does this crap with their football comp and we start smashing these things to pieces and start joining real world practices and set our football up as per world standards??

It is a farce that we are running most of these communist concepts in our league when the reality is we dont need them

[belchardo]

https://thewomensgame.com/news/ffa-were-losing-top-talent-over-high-rego-fees-516821/page0

jesus! that sound a bit too sensible to be coming from a FFA executive!

[plague]

https://thewomensgame.com/news/ffa-were-losing-top-talent-over-high-rego-fees-516821/page0

jesus! that sound a bit too sensible to be coming from a FFA executive!

I did enjoy the line about the FFA only getting 'a little bit' of the rego fee.

Even when being honest theres still some ass covering to do.

[Couscous]

Wtf: Why the Newcastle Jets should change their name to New England FC.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/12/16/why-the-newcastle-jets-should-change-their-name-to-new-england-fc/

[Jetmaster]

Wtf: Why the Newcastle Jets should change their name to New England FC.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/12/16/why-the-newcastle-jets-should-change-their-name-to-new-england-fc/

How bizarre is that?

[turbojetfireV8]

Wtf: Why the Newcastle Jets should change their name to New England FC.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/12/16/why-the-newcastle-jets-should-change-their-name-to-new-england-fc/

great, does that mean our new team song will be by Billy Bragg??

[plague]

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[MFKS]

Got to love the hypocrisy of the FFA

Comes out and condemns racist remarks directed at Bonevacia in Adelaide last night saying no room for racism in Football

Yet same FFA runs the NCIP and is happy to victimise clubs based on ethnicity

Bit of a double standard there


#Irony

[MFKS]

Aloisi gone from the Roar

Bloke cant coach so hopefully that is the last we see of him coaching

[The Dunster]

Aloisi gone from the Roar

Bloke cant coach so hopefully that is the last we see of him coaching

Aloisi won more games than he lost at the Roar, made the finals , played in ACL.... and so on.

I wouldn't be writing the bloke off just yet.

[MFKS]

Aloisi won more games than he lost at the Roar, made the finals , played in ACL.... and so on.

I wouldn't be writing the bloke off just yet.

Cant coach

I will write him off

Was shit at Heart
Was shit at Roar

Got 2 gigs he never deserved and failed at both of them

Hopefully he ends up at the Coast when Mulvey gets fired

[plague]

It will do him the world of good to seperate himself from his brother.

From what I've heard Ross is the real problem.

[Couscous]

Are you ITK, plague?

[plague]

Are you ITK, plague?

that was a vicious rumour, i went to the doctor and had the tests, im clean.

[Couscous]

Happy New Year. This will be a wonderful year for the Jets, especially in Asia.

[boz-monaut]

with each passing year we get closer to an A League without the Central Coast Mariners

I'm sure Canberra could organise a set of ****ing goal posts, where was that in the double effay's assessment criteria?

[Bremsstrahlung]

Would be interested in knowing if we have some spare posts

[Bremsstrahlung]

Mueller hearing is on the 10th of January to decide if his fly kick was 1/10th as bad or 1/5th as bad as odonovans.

[MFKS]

with each passing year we get closer to an A League without the Central Coast Mariners

I'm sure Canberra could organise a set of ****ing goal posts, where was that in the double effay's assessment criteria?

I bet you some time in the next week every HAL club will be getting up a memo about a spare set of goal s being on hand for match days

[Jetmaster]

Our stores area would be full of sand, green paint, spare 1980s plastic seats and NRL advertising spray templates. No room for more posts.

[The Dunster]

What more could you expect from a club that plays in a three sided stadium.

[MFKS]

What more could you expect from a club that plays in a three sided stadium.

There will be some severe cuts at their community canteen for their players

The goal posts aint gonba repair themselves and the money has to be found from somewhere to pay the bill

[Bremsstrahlung]

There will be some severe cuts at their community canteen for their players

The goal posts aint gonba repair themselves and the money has to be found from somewhere to pay the bill

Commentator “joked” that they were gonna send Mrcela the invoice.

[MonkeyKplunk]

I bet you some time in the next week every HAL club will be getting up a memo about a spare set of goal s being on hand for match days

The strangest part was that they HAD spare posts, but they apparently didn't fit, so had to modify the training posts for both ends.
How typical a scenario is that from CCM

[Couscous]

Great to see the A-League finally getting prominent coverage in mainstream media.

https://i.imgur.com/QePccr7.png

[Jeterpool]

New thread time mods?

[belchardo]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/04/23/robbie-fowler-appointed-as-new-brisbane-roar-coach/

fowler to coach Brisbane.

[The Dunster]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/04/23/robbie-fowler-appointed-as-new-brisbane-roar-coach/

fowler to coach Brisbane.

Why do these clubs continue to roll the dice and then wonder why it never works out for them ?

Great footballer but with limited experience as a Manager / Coach this is just ridiculous.

[furns]

Why do these clubs continue to roll the dice and then wonder why it never works out for them ?

Great footballer but with limited experience as a Manager / Coach this is just ridiculous.
Because any decent coach is already going to be out of our financial reach.
All Australian clubs can do apart from appointing the same old names is throw the dice - whether it be for big names wanting to cut their teeth and gain some experience or local coaches in the NPL looking to step up their level.

[plague]

Because any decent coach is already going to be out of our financial reach.
All Australian clubs can do apart from appointing the same old names is throw the dice - whether it be for big names wanting to cut their teeth and gain some experience or local coaches in the NPL looking to step up their level.

what about Adelaide dude? Kurtz?

unless he wants big big dollars, keeping him in Australia where he has proven he can coach surely has to be a better option than Fowler yeah?



although im very disappoint Miron Bleiberg wasnt considered...........again.

[furns]

what about Adelaide dude? Kurtz?

unless he wants big big dollars, keeping him in Australia where he has proven he can coach surely has to be a better option than Fowler yeah?



although im very disappoint Miron Bleiberg wasnt considered...........again.
I read somewhere Kurz is keen to return to Europe

[plague]

I read somewhere Kurz is keen to return to Europe

oh. but he got sacked didnt he? did i read that right or was it a mutual thang?

[furns]

oh. but he got sacked didnt he? did i read that right or was it a mutual thang?No I believe his deal was ending at end of this season and Adelaide management declined to offer him an extension.

[Jeterpool]

No I believe his deal was ending at end of this season and Adelaide management declined to offer him an extension.

Code for sacked

[furns]

Code for sackedWell "sacked" in the sense he still coaches at the club until such times as they are out of the finals series :lol:

[belchardo]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/it-s-our-home-ground-wanderers-oppose-sydney-fc-final-at-bankwest-20190410-p51cww.html
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/after-22-years-qbe-calls-it-quits-just-when-perth-is-basking-in-glory-20190425-p51h7j.html

couple of articles about sydney FC playing a potential final at olympic stadium after WSW throw a hissy-fit about FC playing there before they do. good to see the stupid petty rivalries aren't holding the game back. they can only play Adelaide, City or Wellington, so it's going to be a very empty stadium.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/free-to-air-network-seeks-bigger-slice-of-a-league-and-internationals-20190425-p51h74.html

bit more on 10's interest in free to air games, including socceroos/matildas.

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/15/andy-brennan-is-first-male-australian-footballer-to-come-out-as-gay

good on him for coming out, but i honestly cannot remember him at all!

[The Dunster]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/15/andy-brennan-is-first-male-australian-footballer-to-come-out-as-gay

good on him for coming out, but i honestly cannot remember him at all!

He was the kid from Tassie who played in the VPL for South Melb. Scored a few goals showed some pace.... and Phil Stubbins signed him.

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/boom-npl-attacker-andy-brennan-joins-jets

He had talent but not the fitness / conditioning to handle playing as a full time professional.

Not really sure why this is news ?

[plague]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/15/andy-brennan-is-first-male-australian-footballer-to-come-out-as-gay

good on him for coming out, but i honestly cannot remember him at all!

So Israel Folau was kind of right after all.
Except it seems that in this case a gay bloke has already been to hell.

[boz-monaut]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/15/andy-brennan-is-first-male-australian-footballer-to-come-out-as-gay

good on him for coming out, but i honestly cannot remember him at all!

I came here to post exactly this

I'm pretty certain if he'd made this announcement while with us we would have given him our support and indifference

[traffic light]

He was the kid from Tassie who played in the VPL for South Melb. Scored a few goals showed some pace.... and Phil Stubbins signed him.

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/boom-npl-attacker-andy-brennan-joins-jets

He had talent but not the fitness / conditioning to handle playing as a full time professional.

Not really sure why this is news ?

exactly.

Herald trying hard to push the societal pandering order to reinforce everything is ok?

Should be a feminist angle shortly followed by an environmental one. Society wont riot now

[Couscous]

FMD there are some miserable ostriches on here.

[plague]

Not really sure why this is news ?

Just because it's not news 'for you' doesn't mean it ain't news.

It matters to plenty of people, maybe just let them have this one ok.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

exactly.

Herald trying hard to push the societal pandering order to reinforce everything is ok?

Should be a feminist angle shortly followed by an environmental one. Society wont riot now

My suggestion would be that this may be of interest to people that don't feel comfortable to be themselves within the sporting landscape of Australia.
The number of footballers that haven't felt comfortable to come out whilst within the professional environment is clear, and their statements as to why are reason enough to suggest their is value in gay players being afforded a forum to discuss these issues.
Society isn't ok, which is why articles like this are important, to remind us that as a sport we still don't accept something as normal and common as homosexuality.
I think that's why its news.

[Jim]

My suggestion would be that this may be of interest to people that don't feel comfortable to be themselves within the sporting landscape of Australia.
The number of footballers that haven't felt comfortable to come out whilst within the professional environment is clear, and their statements as to why are reason enough to suggest their is value in gay players being afforded a forum to discuss these issues.
Society isn't ok, which is why articles like this are important, to remind us that as a sport we still don't accept something as normal and common as homosexuality.
I think that's why its news.

Why should sexuality have anything to do with sport or be anyone elses business. Get on with life in harmony. Society and more importantly social are pushing this stupid agenda.

[Bon]

Clacka gone in October to become technical director at NNSWF...

[Tommyjet]

Clacka gone in October to become technical director at NNSWF...

Not getting replaced according to Lawrie, the Ernie and quong show instead

[380]

I am calling Lawrie out on this as total f^&&*ng bullshit and Bert just just saying what he is told. With all the money saving measures this season with the cut price approach to the squad now extending to the coaching ranks we will make the scum down the road look like a competent outfit.

All jokes aside i never thought i could hate on this club again the way i did during the Stumblins season but hearing this straight out cock and BS about the non replacing of Zane takes me right back to that time. Lawrie must think supporters are brain dead halfwits to believe that shit about not replacing Zane having nothing to do with the current financial constraints and saving a quid.

[Jeterpool]

I am calling Lawrie out on this as total f^&&*ng bullshit and Bert just just saying what he is told. With all the money saving measures this season with the cut price approach to the squad now extending to the coaching ranks we will make the scum down the road look like a competent outfit.

All jokes aside i never thought i could hate on this club again the way i did during the Stumblins season but hearing this straight out cock and BS about the non replacing of Zane takes me right back to that time. Lawrie must think supporters are brain dead halfwits to believe that shit about not replacing Zane having nothing to do with the current financial constraints and saving a quid.

Probably another reason we are selling a home game regionally this year as well.

I reflect on past pre-seasons and there's no China trip, no Portugal trip. Remember the team only just got back before the FFA Cup game on the Gold Coast last year?

[Bon]

Probably another reason we are selling a home game regionally this year as well.

I reflect on past pre-seasons and there's no China trip, no Portugal trip. Remember the team only just got back before the FFA Cup game on the Gold Coast last year?

One member of the team went to America? That counts doesn't it?? :gent:

[Jeterpool]

One member of the team went to America? That counts doesn't it?? :gent:

This made me chuckle :rof:

[pv4]

Lawrie must think supporters are brain dead halfwits to believe that shit about not replacing Zane having nothing to do with the current financial constraints and saving a quid.

When Mitchell Murphy was here and Tinkler just used him as a puppet, at least Murphy treated the public with respect and handled himself with professionalism and class. I rarely felt taken for a ride from Murphy, and more often than not sympathised with his situation due to how genuine he was with how he said things.

This bullshitting technique Lawrie uses though, it is way too disturbingly easy to see thru, and it makes me respect him less each time. Maybe half of the issue though is how Lawrie engages, which is with poor grammar on twitter. It would be way harder to maintain integrity on that platform. But that is his own fault for engaging that way I guess.

Well spotted J-pool, no preseason trips for the seniors or even the youth this year. I can't help but conclude both sides will be weaker because of it.

[la bazzle]

When big news for the team is that Hoffman is fit again, we are in genuine strife. How long before Dimi pisses off to the Middle East now his Socceroos chances are gone? Once he’s gone who do we have? A rapper who is off trying to bring back Death Row Records? Bring on promotion and relegation so this mediocrity can be done with. If it means Newy loses a team in the national competition who cares.

[The Dunster]

People here will be spending more on Kayo and Foxtel subscriptions to watch the Jets than Martin Lee will be spending on players.

The shark has well and truly been jumped.

[plague]

All jokes aside i never thought i could hate on this club again the way i did during the Stumblins season

How could you have such little faith?

[plague]

and it makes me respect him less each time.

this assumes you had some sort of starting point.

that mistake is on you my friend.

[plague]

Bring on promotion and relegation so this mediocrity can be done with. If it means Newy loses a team in the national competition who cares.

this.

i, for one, am looking forward to proper cold cans on the hill of Number 2 sports ground as we play Morwell Falcons in a few years.

Proper football.

[380]

When Mitchell Murphy was here and Tinkler just used him as a puppet, at least Murphy treated the public with respect and handled himself with professionalism and class. I rarely felt taken for a ride from Murphy, and more often than not sympathised with his situation due to how genuine he was with how he said things.

This bullshitting technique Lawrie uses though, it is way too disturbingly easy to see thru, and it makes me respect him less each time. Maybe half of the issue though is how Lawrie engages, which is with poor grammar on twitter. It would be way harder to maintain integrity on that platform. But that is his own fault for engaging that way I guess.

Well spotted J-pool, no preseason trips for the seniors or even the youth this year. I can't help but conclude both sides will be weaker because of it.

I agree Murphy was doing a more than reasonable job with what he had to work with. Would have been good too see how good a ship he could have run without all the baggage this club seems to be stuck with season after season.

[Jeterpool]

this.

i, for one, am looking forward to proper cold cans on the hill of Number 2 sports ground as we play Morwell Falcons in a few years.

Proper football.

Then we can all reminisce about the good ol days when we were in the big leagues

[turbojetfireV8]

Bert needs to put his foot down and insist Martin finds the funds to invite Reuben back to fold...

[Negative Police]

Martin is Tinks 2.0. Using the club as a grubby side project for their shoddy businesses.

Another wasted year coming up

[belchardo]

Anybody know when the the draw comes out? FFA have previously said "July" and there ain't much of that left.

[Bon]

Anybody know when the the draw comes out? FFA have previously said "July" and there ain't much of that left.

Apparently it was supposed to come out within the last few days, but two of the clubs kicked up a stink about scheduling and its been taken back in for a further look..
Word was that we were one of the clubs..

[Grimario]

Everyone's best mate Lawrie though has said that we weren't one of the clubs so that was nonsense.

The leaked draw and leaked "Newcastle were unhappy" bits had one of the opening rounds playing at a stadium that already has rugby league scheduled on at the same time, so was dismissed as load of bollocks by most people.

[StannyCFCJET]

Shouldn't this be in the 2019 section?

[Bon]

Shouldn't this be in the 2019 section?

Shouldn't you be in the Chelsea/Liverpool section? :gent:

[StannyCFCJET]

Shouldn't you be in the Chelsea/Liverpool section? :gent:

All in good time

[Bon]

All in good time

Get back in there mate..
I figured you'd be in there crankin' it after they beat Barca?

[Grimario]

Shouldn't this be in the 2019 section?

Maybe if one of the lousy useless mods actually stickied the 2019 thread instead of letting it drift down the page, Bon might have posted in it.

Ban the mods, replace them with Bon and pv4and rebrand to a coastie themed page.

[Bon]

Maybe if one of the lousy useless mods actually stickied the 2019 thread instead of letting it drift down the page, Bon might have posted in it.

Ban the mods, replace them with Bon and pv4and rebrand to a coastie themed page.

:lulzturtle:

[StannyCFCJET]

Get back in there mate..
I figured you'd be in there crankin' it after they beat Barca?

Lamps is at the wheel start the bounce

[pv4]

How long before Dimi pisses off to the Middle East now his Socceroos chances are gone?

Dimi was in the most recent National Team squad, so whilst I won't argue with your other sentiments in general I do want to point out his chances are well from gone.

[q-money]

https://twitter.com/SydneyFC/status/1156170202733637632

once again, the idiot children of newcastle bring shame upon the city

just fold the club now

[la bazzle]

https://twitter.com/SydneyFC/status/1156170202733637632

once again, the idiot children of newcastle bring shame upon the city

just fold the club now

I hate this club more than any club in world football

[plague]

https://twitter.com/SydneyFC/status/1156170202733637632

once again, the idiot children of newcastle bring shame upon the city

just fold the club now

Burn.
The.
Whole.
****ing.
Place.
Down.



Middlebys work is done here, he won. Surely he can move on now and let us start the healing.

[Aegon]

https://twitter.com/SydneyFC/status/1156170202733637632

once again, the idiot children of newcastle bring shame upon the city

just fold the club now

Supporting an Aussie club in China whilst they play PSG.... who cares?

[pv4]

I just love the big club mentality of SFC to post this :rof:

[380]

Burn.
The.
Whole.
****ing.
Place.
Down.



Middlebys work is done here, he won. Surely he can move on now and let us start the healing.

This. First we started to have too many lovey dovey pre season friendlies with the Gypo's FFS. Now we are tighter ass run operation than the Gypo's and finally the future cheer on the Smurfs.

Plague is right, Fold the club there is no turning back from this farcical operation called the Newcastle Jets.

[plague]

One thing is for sure, if Con or Tinkler was still around this type of shit dont go down like this.


But nooooooooo, some of you on here wanted the shiny new thing.
Congrats, you got what you deserved. Enjoy.

[The Dunster]

Wasn't sure where to post this - but it's pure gold.

https://playerswiki.com/tommy-oar

[Couscous]

That's wonderful, Dun.


Tommy Oar’s Personal Life

Tommy Oar has never been romantically linked with anyone so far. You can catch him up on his Facebook and Twitter where he would most likely reveal his information of career and personal life. Till the date, there is no any speculation of him being engaged in any relationship or having a girlfriend.

Oar's current marital status is unmarried. He seems to enjoy and busy with his own work.

[The Dunster]

That's wonderful, Dun.

I was referring to the fact they had the wrong picture up.

[Couscous]

Yes, but I preferred what I preferred.

[Dogshot99]

FROM THE HERALD.

NEWCASTLE Jets came from two goals down to notch a 2-all draw with Western Sydney at Parklea on Wednesday in what coach Ernie Merrick labelled a valuable dress rehearsal for their up-coming FFA Cup battle.

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The Jets take on Melbourne Victory in the round of 32 at AAMI Park on Wednesday night.

Panamanian striker Abdiel Arroyo is expected to make his debut off the bench against Victory, while captain Nigel Boogaard (knee) and keeper Glen Moss (foot) are on track to be available.

None of the trio played in the trial, which was held behind closed doors.

Jason Hoffman (65th) and Angus Thurgate (68th) hit the back of the net for the Jets after Bruce Kamau (12th) and Daniel Georgieski (35th) had put Wanderers ahead.

"Bearing in mind we are 10 weeks out, I'm very happy with where we are at," Merrick said. "It was a big step forward from the Edgeworth match. It was much better tactically and the quality of passing was good in the first 20 minutes, and we got better the further the game went. It was a good dress rehearsal for the FFA Cup. Victory nor ourselves will be at our best. No-one will be at their best. That is impossible."

Matt Millar went close to putting the Jets ahead in the ninth minute when he struck the crossbar from a Dimi Petratos cross.

Wanderers then took control with a goal to winger Bruce Kamau in the 12th minute.

Former Jets fullback Daniel Georgievski double the advantage with a powerful shot in the 35th minute.

"We had some chances in the box but we didn't finish very well," Merrick said. "To be fair to Wanderers, after they scored, they dominated the rest of the first half. They pressed us really high and it worked. Instead of passing the ball in behind them, where there was a lot of space, we were getting caught in possession. We changed a couple of things in the second half and got stronger and stronger."

The Jets hit back midway through the second half when Hoffman slotted home a cutback from Steve Ugarkovic. Three minutes later substitute Angus Thurgate got on the end of a Petratos cross and headed in.

"We controlled the last 15 minutes and should have put them away but we didn't," Merrick said. "Overall, I'd say a draw was a fair result. Bearing in mind we are 10 weeks out, I'm very happy with where we are at. But we can't concede a goal cheaply and then drop our heads for the rest of the half. We spoke about lifting and pressing more and they did it really well. They responded to a slight strategic change."

Nikolai Topor-Stanley got through 75 minutes in his first start for the season. Matt Millar, Ben Kantarovski and Dimi Petratos were replaced early in the second half.

"We managed to give a lot of our younger boys a run - Pat Langlois, Jack Simmons, Kosta and Maki Petratos and Keegan Hughes in goals," Merrick said. "Everyone did a job."

[Grimario]

Damien Lovelock has passed away

https://twitter.com/TheWorldGame/status/1157502670568976385

[evolution]

Draw is out, bye first round:

https://www.a-league.com.au/sites/aleague/files/2019-08/Hyundai%20A-League%202019%3A20%20Season%20Draw%20PDF_1.pdf

[Dogshot99]

From the Herald.

AUGUST 12 2019 - 7:00PM

A-League: Irish import hits the ground running for Jets

James Gardiner

Local Sport






WES Hoolahan has trained only twice with the Newcastle Jets but his new teammates are already starting to "pick the brain" of the former Premier League star.

The 37-year-old Norwich City legend was all class in a ball-work session on Monday.

His movement was sharp, passing crisp. Most impressive was the midfielder's ability to link with players, switch the point of attack and find pockets of space.

"I knew he would be good but he is above and beyond my expectations," coach Ernie Merrick said. "His passing, movement, ability on the ball ... he has already started talking to young Angus Thurgate about his positioning off the ball. He is very good."

Hoolahan has played 30-plus games a season in either the Premier League or Championship in four of the past five years and had been training with lower league side Cambridge United before travelling to Newcastle.

Merrick said he was a strong chance to be involved in the Jets' friendly against Hamilton Olympic at Darling St Oval on Thursday. If not, definitely against Edgeworth in the FFA Cup round of 16 battle at Jack McLaughlan Oval on Wednesday week.


"He is very fit," Jets midfielder Steve Ugarkovic said. "His movement off the ball and his body movement on the ball. The way he sells players with his shoulders ... having that option in front of me, he looks sharp. He has come here to do very well.

"He is definitely someone I can learn from. He is a great mind to have on the field and in the change room.

"I will pick his brain and see what I can do and changes I can make to my game."



Hoolahan has played the majority of his career as a No.10. With Ronny Vargas departing, Socceroo Dimi Petratos was set to assume that role. Who plays where and how they combine remains to be seem.

However, they did appear to form an instant chemistry on the training pitch on Monday.

"It is still only early," Ugarkovic said. "I think Wes is the sort of player who can gel in any team. He is someone who is going to bring others players into the game, which is exciting."

Ugarkovic produced a herculean effort in the Jets' thrilling 3-2 extra-time triumph over Melbourne Victory in the FFA Cup last week.

The midfielder set a new club record, covering 17.5 kilometres during the game at an average of 130 metres per minute.



"I have always prided myself on doing the dirty work," the 24-year-old said. "It was a big output from all the boys. We all worked hard. It was good to see that effort and to win was even better."

The Jets are expecting a different type of game against Edgeworth, who defended stoutly and caused the A-League outfit problems in a friendly last month.

"We will show them as much respect as an A-League team," Ugarkovic said.

"They are a good side, have good players and are doing well in their season. It will be a different game to Victory. That is the way football is. We will stick to the way we play. It will be a good experience, good for the region to be playing a game out there. I'm definitely looking forward to it."

[plague]

i know a bit of it is about hyping up the new guy


but


it always amazes me when grown ass professional football players come across a 37yr old from the other side of the world and think hes some sort of alien creature.
"oooh hes fit"
"oooh hes sharp"
"oooh hes smart" etc.

do they not realise our players and coaches should also be really fit, really smart and really sharp?

the **** these people doing in these off seasons and then at training?

[Bremsstrahlung]

But does he even have boots? Ffs. Smoke and mirrors.

[belchardo]

i know a bit of it is about hyping up the new guy


but


it always amazes me when grown ass professional football players come across a 37yr old from the other side of the world and think hes some sort of alien creature.
"oooh hes fit"
"oooh hes sharp"
"oooh hes smart" etc.

do they not realise our players and coaches should also be really fit, really smart and really sharp?

the **** these people doing in these off seasons and then at training?

i like the work from the herald - each year they just change the name and republish. hope the original journo is getting royalties!

[Dogshot99]

From the Herald
A-League: Champness puts Jets career on hold to chase music dream

Vince Rugari and James Gardiner

Local Sport

MUSIC MAN: Joey Champness has put his football career on the back burner to focus on hip hop.

Newcastle Jets winger Joe Champness is convinced he can make it big as a musician after making the bold call to put his career on hold in the A-League and sacrifice a possible Tokyo Olympics appearance to pursue his hip-hop ambitions.

An aspiring rapper who performs under the stage name JOWIC (pronounced Joey-Cee), Champness was given permission to skip the first month of Newcastle's pre-season to spend time in Los Angeles, where he recorded music with the Create Music Group and mixed it with some industry heavyweights.

The 22-year-old returned to Australia over the weekend but will now return to the United States for an extended period after reaching an agreement with the Jets over his future. Champness has signed a two-year contract extension but will spend at least the next six months overseas on what is essentially unpaid leave - meaning he will miss the start of the upcoming A-League season.

Regarded as one of the most promising young players in the competition, Champness' decision will also impact his international ambitions. He is a member of the Olyroos, Australia's under-23 national team who are due to play in a qualifying tournament for Tokyo 2020 early next year.

Champness is fully aware of what he is passing up and is prepared for the inevitable criticism and backlash that will come his way but believes he has a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity in front of him.

"I wouldn't be doing this if I wasn't convinced that there's something out there," Champness told the Herald. "I met with some really great people and I can't talk about it too much at this point ... there's risk involved, of course, but there's risk in everything.

"There's a lot of circumstances and factors that people aren't aware of as well. It'll most likely stay that way. All I can do is make the decision I feel is best.



"It's not a normal situation, that's for sure. I've got a lot of love for the Newcastle Jets and a lot of respect for everyone on that team - I'm contracted there for the next three years, so it's an honour to be given that sort of opportunity and trust from the club in that sense as well."

Hip-hop is not a mere side-project for Champness, who it's understood also turned down a loan move to newly-promoted English League Two side Salford City - owned by several former Manchester United legends, including David Beckham, Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs - to concentrate on music.

Champness is as serious about the craft of making hip-hop as he is about football, and the Jets are fully aware of that. If he wishes to return to the club at any stage in the near future, the new deal gives him scope to do so and Newcastle will happily accommodate him.

Asked for a highlight from his recent stint in the US, Champness said: "(There were) a lot of highlights, but the process above all is a highlight in itself. Being able to work with different minds and visionaries who can put work in the right hands is a major factor. Details are to come on how that looks exactly but take it from me, it's a good situation for me as an artist and my team as well."

Merrick, though disappointed to lose a game breaker, said he was understanding of the player's stance.

"I would hate to force a talented musician to, in any way, give up his dream of music," coach Ernie Merrick said. "I think he can do both but he feels he has to focus on one at the moment.

"As a coach I am pretty happy with the way we have dealt with the issue and not made a big thing of it. He has re-signed for another two years. Short-term, long-term I think it will work itself out."

Jets chief executive Lawrie McKinna concedes there is a chance Champness may never play football again.

"He might be in the US for six months, he might be there for a year, he might never come back to play football," McKinna said. "But we thought it was important for the Newcastle Jets to have him signed up, so if he does come back he comes back to Newcastle and not to another club.

"We did the right thing and let him go to the US for a month. People might say that backfired. If a player walks out on a club there is nothing we can do."

Champness' departure leaves the Jets with 19 senior players and three scholarship players on the roster.

"We are actively looking for a another player. It might not be a wide player but we will definitely bring in a player," McKinna said.

[Tommyjet]

I wonder what the budget is for the replacement and what position we are looking at. I can see holes in the squad everywhere but especially at left back. Also I still don't see a lot of goals in us.

[Bremsstrahlung]

You make it sound like we look at our squad and handpick players to come and fill any gaps.

When In fact it’s a matter of waiting for an agent to tell us some guy is keen on a run and we pay up and claim to be a not for profit organisation.

[StannyCFCJET]

I wonder what the budget is for the replacement and what position we are looking at. I can see holes in the squad everywhere but especially at left back. Also I still don't see a lot of goals in us.

The club has no interest in signing a LB. We have to watch Johnny K struggle there all season

[mic22]

The club has no interest in signing a LB. We have to watch Johnny K struggle there all season

Or Lachy.
Topor has got a hell of a work to do...

[MFKS]

Short price now that the Jets sign Andrew Hoole to fill JOWIC departure

3.....2.....1.....

[plague]

I wish McKinna was good at music.

[Frodo]

I wish McKinna was good at music.

I wish he was good at anything at all.

[MFKS]

I wish he was good at anything at all.

I wish he wasn't a Gypo

[plague]

anyone else see that small piece of info today suggesting wooden spooners wont be allowed to compete in the following years FFA cup?

a small step obviously but its good to see the clubs going the way of punishing failure instead of rewarding it like the americans.


more of it please.

[MFKS]

anyone else see that small piece of info today suggesting wooden spooners wont be allowed to compete in the following years FFA cup?

a small step obviously but its good to see the clubs going the way of punishing failure instead of rewarding it like the americans.


more of it please.

When we going to do it properly and relegate the Gypos??

[Dogshot99]

From the Herald

A-League: Jets expect A-League test against Roar and Glory in Surf City Cup

James Gardiner

Newcastle Jets



ERNIE Merrick believes the Newcastle Jets are showing "good signs" but the experienced coach expects his new-look attack to be put to a truer test against A-League opposition at the Surf City Cup on the Gold Coast.

The Jets tackle Brisbane Roar at the Croatian Sports Centre on Sunday and back-up three days later against 2019 Premiers Plate winners Perth Glory.



"The Gold Coast Knights have done a tremendous job in putting on this tournament," Merrick said. "It is great for the community up there and shows how much interest there is in football.

"For us, it is another step in our preparation. Having two games in three days gives us a chance to rotate the squad a little bit.

"The games will be very serious.

"For the Roar, it's really their home crowd. I know its the Gold Coast but I'm sure it is a large part of their catchment area. They will want to do exceptionally well.

"Glory, it is always tough when you live so far away to get quality games, so they will be playing their best team as well."

With former Premier League star Wes Hoolahan, Dimi Petratos and Panamanian striker Abdiel Arroyo prominent, the Jets accounted for Edgeworth 5-1 in the FFA Cup 10 days ago.

The Eagles played with a back five and looked to hurt the A-League side on the counter.

However, they couldn't handle the pace of Arroyo and Nick Fitzgerald and the trickery of Hoolahan and Petratos, who on Friday was overlooked for the Socceroos squad to play Kuwait in a World Cup qualifier on September 10.

"When you play against a back three with two wingbacks, you have to play in a certain way," Merrick said. "We practiced that against Edgeworth and it worked really well. But there is no doubt that it is going to be much more difficult against Brisbane Roar and Perth Glory. Another step up is good.

"If you get it wrong against Edgeworth, you are in real trouble. To score five goals, and perhaps we should have had a few more, is a good sign. But we have to be sharper, we have to be quicker and we know when we get caught on the counter attack against good teams, you pay a price for it. You have to have your defence actively ready for a counter.

"There has been a major focus on getting out of our back half quickly, getting into the front third with numbers and finishing with one touch. That will continue."

Ben Kantarovski has recovered from a groin niggle and will be involved. Nigel Boogaard, Nikolai Topor-Stanley, Lachlan Jackson and Glen Moss are still working their way back to full fitness and will travel but not play.

"We could play Glen but will probably give him a little bit longer," Merrick said. "We want him super fit for the season so there is no point in rushing him right now. He should be right for the FFA Cup, so should Nikolai. Nigel is touch and go and so is Lachlan. We will take the whole squad. We are keeping them all together for a bit of bonding as they say."

The Roar, who went down in the FFA Cup to the Central Coast Mariners in a penalty shoot-out on Wednesday night, were expected to field a depleted side against Perth in the Surf City Cup opener on Friday night.

They are expected to be back to close to full-strength against the Jets.

" Robbie Fowler is the new coach, they have changed the team around a fair bit so it will be ideal to see how they play, what there structure is.

"It will be good to catch up with Roy O'Donovan. He is a good guy and did a great job for us when he was here.

"He will be revved up I'm sure. He always is. He is a professional. I'm looking forward to catching up with him again. He did a great job for us when he was here.

"Both teams, I think, will play open and honest football and entertain what should be a good crowd."

[Dogshot99]

Some not so good news from brisvegas




Brisbane outgun Newcastle Jets 3-1 in trial

ROBERT DILLON



JETS coach Ernie Merrick was satisfied with his team's all-round performance despite losing their opening match in the Surf City Cup 3-1 to Brisbane Roar on Sunday.

Brisbane, who also beat Perth Glory 1-0 on Friday night in the pre-season tournament on the Gold Coast, led 2-0 at half-time after goals by Brad Inman and Mirza Muratovic.



Off-season signing Nick Fitzgerald pegged one back for the Jets early in the second half, only for Inman to seal the result with his second goal in the 81stminute.

Merrick said he was "very happy" with what he saw from his team, especially as senior defenders Nigel Boogaard, Nikolai Topor-Stanley and Lachlan Jackson are still unavailable because of injuries.

"We played some really good football, very intense, and given our heavy training schedule, it was a really good conditioning workout for us," Merrick said.

"Credit to Brisbane, they scored three goals to our one, but I was particularly impressed with the way our midfield played.

"Matty Ridenton really ran the show in the middle of midfield ... we probably had more possession in their defensive half and defensive third than they had in ours, and more shots. There were lots of good signs there."

Veteran midfielder Ben Kantarovski received his first game time of the pre-season after returning from a groin strain and provided immediate authority.

Tuesday's clash with Perth will give the Jets another chance to fine-tune before their FFA cup quarter-final in Adelaide on September 17.


I hope Ernie isn't intending to keep ridenton as a realistic midfield leader. I am singularly unimpressed with him since he arrived at the club. He always seems to be the weak link.

[turbojetfireV8]

I hope Ernie isn't intending to keep ridenton as a realistic midfield leader.

But didn't Ernie just say he marshalled the midfield like a true general? (Custer probably...)

[380]

Ridenton's biggest contribution since arriving has been to our turnover stat.

[Jetmaster]

Depends on Kanta - we will have our front four plus Kanta and Uga in mids - Ridenton then is their back up.

Kanta - lift!

[Jeterpool]

Or the additional CDM to fill Joey's spot, as Ernie mentioned at the Member's forum last week.

[StannyCFCJET]

Or the additional CDM to fill Joey's spot, as Ernie mentioned at the Member's forum last week.

Which I don't understand as we have Gus as well and Langois and Johnny can play there as well. FFS we need a LB over anything else

[Dogshot99]

Its nice to see some regular press coverage during preseason. I thought this guy had a decent game last ffa cup round. Let's hope he keeps it up., gypo or not.. kanta at the back? Hmm, not sure about that one.
Once again from the Herald

A-League: New approach a good Fitz for Jets winger

James Gardiner

Local Sport


NICK Fitzgerald hasn't scored a goal in the A-League in the past two seasons.

Before that, his biggest haul was four, which he collected in consecutive campaigns from season 2015-16.

They are statistics the 27-year-old Jets winger is working overtime to change.

The early signs are encouraging.

Fitzgerald, playing a more direct style, has banked goals in back-to-back games.

The former Olyroo reckoned he "couldn't miss" such was the quality of the cross from Angus Thurgate in the 3-1 loss to Brisbane Roar at the Surf City Cup at the Gold Coast on Sunday.

"Angus brought some energy down the right and whipped in a great cross," Fitzgerald said. "The ball got stuck under my feet and then I was able to poke it home from in the six-yard box. The cross was that good that I couldn't really miss."

His goal in the 5-1 rout of Edgeworth in the FFA Cup was also swept in from well inside the 18-yard box.

These are the type of goals that have been missing from the high-octane attacker's repertoire.

"It is always good to get among the goals and get the confidence up ready for the season," Fitzgerald said ahead of the Jets' clash with Perth at the Croatian Sports Centre on Tuesday night.

"You can't score from outside the box in every game. You have to be getting in the right position. Angus put in a great ball and I was in the right position to capitalise. Near the penalty spot: that is where I hope to score a lot of goals this year. Ernie [Merrick] and assistant coach Clayton Zane have been doing a lot of work with me on making runs into the box.

"My positioning has to be better this year. That is how I will score more goals, not necessarily by scoring from outside the box.

"Dimi Petratos is a great attacking player and Wes Hoolahan has come in as well. There is some great talent in the team, which helps me as well. It's a work in progress but I am happy to get among the goals again and get the confidence up. It will be another good test tomorrow against Perth and we will see how we go."

The battle against last season's A-League Premiers Plate winner is for bragging rights only. The Roar, who beat Perth 1-0 on Friday night, have already secured the inaugural tournament which is being hosted by the Gold Coast Knights.


Ben Kantarovski, who returned from a groin injury off the bench against the Roar, is likely come into the heart of defence in place of Pat Langlois.

"Hopefully we start a bit better against Perth," Fitzgerald said.

"We took it to Brisbane, we were just a bit off in the first half. The travel got to us a little bit. There were some pleasing signs in the second half. Even from 2-0 down we took the game to them and gave it a real crack. The combinations came together.

"We have some key players out as well, which doesn't help. Boogs and Topor have to come back in. They are key figures and leaders.

"Perth were the benchmark last year and with [coach] Tony Popovic still there, they will be a quality team again. It will be another good test to see where we are at and what we need to improve on.

"We have the FFA Cup quarter-final against Adelaide next week. They are obviously a great side as well. We want to progress in the FFA Cup. It is a good opportunity to win a trophy pretty much before the season starts.

"It's always about trying to improve as we get closer to the season."

[Dogshot99]

Nice to wake up to a good news story.


Italiano saves day as Jets beat Perth in shootout to finish Surf City Cup on a high

James Gardiner

Local Sport



KEEPER Lewis Italiano provided the heroics as the Newcastle Jets finished the Surf City Cup on a high, beating Perth Glory 4-3 on penalties after the scores were locked at 1-all at fulltime on Tuesday night at the Croation Sports Ceentre.

Italiano dived low to his left to deny Juande and then sealed the win, saving the fifth attempt by Ivan Franjic.



"Lewis saved a couple of crackers and did really well," Jets coach Ernie Merrick said. "We want Lewis pushing Glen Moss really hard."

Dimi Petratos was the only Jets player to miss from the spot, sending his effort high.

Steve Ugarkovic, Johnny Koutroumbis, Kosta Petratos and Makis Petratos all converted.

The Jets opened the scoring in the 11th minute through Ben Kantarovski. But his goal was cancelled out by a Neil Kilkenny penalty on the stroke of half-time.

"We acquitted ourselves really well and were a bit unlucky not to win in regulation," Merrick said. "We had three one-on-ones with their keeper. Arroyo hit the post with one, Dimi put one over the bar and Jason Hoffman was also right through.

"They had two good chances as well

"I was very impressed with the level of the boys' fitness. Perth virtually changed their whole team, but our lads never stopped pushing."



The Jets were without Kaine Sheppard, Jack Simmons and Angus Thurgate who have been struck by a virus and flew home on Tuesday. Their departure left the Jets with 14 fit players and they gave an opportunity to a youngster from the tournament hosts, Gold Coast Knights, to play off the bench.

The win over last season's A-League premiers followed a 3-1 loss to Brisbane on Sunday.

The Glory, who went down 1-0 to Brisbane in the tournament opener on Friday, fielded an attacking line-up spearheaded by Diego Castro and Bruno Fornaroli.

Kantarovski put the Jets ahead in the 11th minute with a clinical header from a pin-point Dimi Petratos cross.

Nick Fitzgerald nearly doubled the advantage in the 26th minute but his lob was fractionally high.

Joel Chianese went close for the Glory in the 40th minute, forcing a diving save from Italiano.

Four minutes later Perth were on level terms after Italiano brought down Chris Harold in the box and Kilkenny converted from the spot.

The Jets thought they had regained the lead in the 62nd minute when Jason Hoffman tapped in only to have the goal pulled back for off-side.

Two minutes later Abdiel Arroyo was denied by the post and the Panamanian missed another chance in the 69th minute.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I like that we are counting Dimi putting “one over the bar” as chances on goal. Should lead the comp in chances.

[Couscous]

This is pretty disturbing.

https://twitter.com/NewcastleJetsFC/status/1168787582420783104

[plague]

Nice to wake up to a good news story.


How is this a good news story?
Next thing you know the Jets might be less than trash, people will go to games, beer lines will be longer and we'll have nowt to blow up about on the Foz?

What sort of world do we live in where people aspire to be happy?

I'll be over in the Politics thread if anyone needs me until this wave of optimism subsides.

[MFKS]

How is this a good news story?
Next thing you know the Jets might be less than trash, people will go to games, beer lines will be longer and we'll have nowt to blow up about on the Foz?

What sort of world do we live in where people aspire to be happy?

I'll be over in the Politics thread if anyone needs me until this wave of optimism subsides.

It is okay

We going to do our usual come season arrival

Boogaard is still to come back and you know he will deliver

[Frodo]

It is okay

We going to do our usual come season arrival

Boogaard is still to come back and you know he will deliver

At least there's less chance of Boogs giving away penalties and red cards this year.. he'll be so slow and so far behind play he won't know be able to attempt any reckless challenges.

[plague]

It is okay

We going to do our usual come season arrival

Boogaard is still to come back and you know he will deliver

So you're saying we'll be a mathematical chance of making the finals with 2 rounds to play?

[MFKS]

At least there's less chance of Boogs giving away penalties and red cards this year.. he'll be so slow and so far behind play he won't know be able to attempt any reckless challenges.

He more likely to take them out early due to lack of speed

[MFKS]

So you're saying we'll be a mathematical chance of making the finals with 2 rounds to play?

Forever 7th

[turbojetfireV8]

MSN Sport - no salary cap so Shitney can sign Joey to a record deal by the looks:
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAGTdUl.img

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/football/pfa-urges-a-leagues-new-management-to-scrap-cap-reboot-competition/ar-AAGSJfT?ocid=spartanntp#image=1

[Frodo]

MSN Sport - no salary cap so Shitney can sign Joey to a record deal by the looks:
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAGTdUl.img

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/football/pfa-urges-a-leagues-new-management-to-scrap-cap-reboot-competition/ar-AAGSJfT?ocid=spartanntp#image=1



Scrap the cap.

Celebrate ACL winners and Minor Premiers as the pinnacle of football in AUS.

Change the finals series to a separate cup.

Work on pro/relegation as soon as we are ready.

FMD, it's not that hard fellas.

[Jetmaster]

Scrap the cap.

Celebrate ACL winners and Minor Premiers as the pinnacle of football in AUS.

Change the finals series to a separate cup.

Work on pro/relegation as soon as we are ready.

FMD, it's not that hard fellas.

That is the football way....unfortunately its not the Strayan way.

[Dogshot99]

Good morning, today's Herald story.

Soccer: Jets defender in running for FFA Cup return against Adelaide

James Gardiner

Local Sport



NIKOLAI Topor-Stanley is learning fast what it is like to chase Panamanian striker Abdiel Arroyo around.





The evergreen Jets defender is working his way back to fitness from a calf strain.

On Tuesday, he was matched up against the athletic Central American.

"Chasing Arroyo is not easy," the 34-year-old said. "Getting back in and playing against the best we have is what I want to do. He is quick, very physical and very strong. Touch wood he keeps fit and he will be a good asset for us."

Topor-Stanley sat out the Jets' 3-1 loss to Brisbane and the 4-3 win on penalties against Perth at the Surf City Cup on the Gold Coast last week.

"It was a good time away and we were put to the test with two games in three days," Topor-Stanley said. "I have been a few weeks out with a little [calf] niggle and it is good to be back with the boys."

Although in full training, Topor-Stanley, who hasn't missed a competitive game in two seasons, is unsure if he will be available for the FFA Cup quarter-final against defending champions Adelaide at Coopers Stadium next Tuesday.

"That is up to the coaching staff," he said. "All I can do is train and train hard. It's one step at a time trying to get through training and get back to some sort of fitness. That is my focus. I have had a couple of full training sessions back. To get full fitness, you have to get games and games in succession.



"I may not get there until the season. It is a long season. Injuries are part of the game. I have had a fairly good run.To pick it up was disappointing, but you just have to deal with it. We are in good hands here. The medical staff have done a good job to get me back. I want to be all in and I am always pushing to get back quicker. It doesn't mean you do silly things, it is all within measure."

This is the first time the Jets have progressed to the final eight of the FFA Cup and Topor-Stanley said winning was a priority.


"That is why we play the game; to win silverware, win cups," he said. "It's an opportunity for us to progress and we will be taking it very seriously."

Adelaide have a new coach in Dutchman Gertjan Verbeek and a host of fresh faces.

"I am expecting a different team, but what exactly that might be is a little bit of an unknown," Topor-Stanley said.

Meanwhile, Brisbane forward Dylan Wenzel-Halls is enjoying learning his trade from some of the games greats. The 21-year-old made his A-League debut for the Roar last season under John Aloisi. Now Wenzel-Halls is picking the brain of new boss Robbie Fowler.

"He's always looking to help me but it's not only me, it's looking to help everyone, he's in everyone's ear giving them little tips and feedback which I think it's really important," Wenzel-Halls said. "For me it's exciting to work with someone of his calibre and I think I'm quite lucky to do that and be in that position. But even just watching the likes of Roy (O'Donovan) and how he moves as well, for a young striker, puts me in a good position."

[Bon]

Adama Traore to Victree allegedly...

[Grimario]

Adama Traore to Victree allegedly...

Allegedly? MV have announced it.

https://www.melbournevictory.com.au/news/traore-returns-victory

[Bon]

Allegedly? MV have announced it.

https://www.melbournevictory.com.au/news/traore-returns-victory

Yeah, I just saw it pop up on a mate of mines Facey page..
Wasn't sure how legit it was, but also couldn't be bothered going searching..
Get back to your Devy, mate..

[Grimario]

Yeah, I just saw it pop up on a mate of mines Facey page..
Wasn't sure how legit it was, but also couldn't be bothered going searching..
Get back to your Devy, mate..

Tomorrow. Today, disc golf.

[plague]

Allegedly? MV have announced it.

https://www.melbournevictory.com.au/news/traore-returns-victory


Current Melbourne Victory Squad
Matthew ACTON, Kenjok ATHIU, Jay BARNETT, Corey BROWN, Leigh BROXHAM, Benjamin CARRIGAN, Thomas DENG, Kristijan DOBRAS, James DONACHIE, Tim HOOGLAND, Josh HOPE, Elvis KAMSOBA, Birkan KIRDAR, Robbie KRUSE, Brandon LAUTON, Anthony LESIOTIS, Andrew NABBOUT, Jakob POULSEN, Storm ROUX, Matthew SUTTON, Lawrence THOMAS, Ola TOIVONEN, Adama TRAORE

wait a sec, how did Victory end up with such a trash squad?

[Grimario]

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/daniel-mcbreen-appointed-youth-team-head-coach

McBreen now youth head coach.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN NPL grand final preview - Maitland Magpies

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/nplmaitlandpre120919.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN NPL GF preview - Edgeworth Eagles

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/npledgeworth130919.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN NPL final wrap up
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/npldecider150919.mp4

[Dogshot99]

Merrick has faith in new-look strike force despite injury cloud over import

James Gardiner

Local Sport



COACH Ernie Merrick is confident the Jets have enough strike power to trouble Adelaide United with or without Panamania international Abdiel Arroyo.

Arroyo is in doubt for the FFA Cup quarter-final showdown with the defending champions at Coopers Stadium on Tuesday night after rolling his ankle at training.

The 25-year-old was assisted from the training paddock and is expected to have scans to determine the full extent of the injury.

"He was turning quickly in the box at speed and seems to have jarred his ankle," coach Merrick said. "It is difficult to say how bad it is ... but we feel as though we have the numbers covered for the FFA Cup game in Adelaide. We have Kaine (Sheppard) and Jason Hoffman up front, Nick Fitzgerald, Gus Thurgate ... a number of players. It doesn't just come down to one player."

Experienced midfielder Ben Kantarovski also failed to complete training and had ice on a hamstring issue. The 27-year-old has just returned from a groin niggle.



"He felt something in his lower hamstring," Merrick said. "He will be right in a week or two. There will always be one or two setbacks when you are pushing them to this level of fitness. You are always going to have little injuries here and there. It is best for them to happen in the pre-season rather than in-season. It's best that they are minimum type injuries. Strength wise the boys are looking very good. Strength is a key component of keeping players injury free."

Kantarovski was likely to play alongside Johnny Koutroumbis in the heart of defence against Adelaide.

Nikolai Topor-Stanley is back in full training from a calf injury but may not be ready to start. Pat Langlois partnered Koutroumbis in the 5-1 win over Edgeworth in the FFA Cup round of 16.

"Nikolai and Nigel (Boogaard) are both up for game time. I don't know about them starting but they are fit enough for game time," Merrick said


Sorry didn't have time over the weekend to post this.
Hmmm....

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN last night NPL wrap up

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/nplfollow160919.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

ABC to televise Saturday afternoon games? About a quarter of our draw is Saturday 5:15 so we might get a game televised for a change...

https://www.goal.com/en/news/a-league-set-for-surprise-free-to-air-tv-deal-with-abc/1kp4m36hf14ix1hqw3czepgfqx

[belchardo]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6396256/jets-set-to-tweak-attacking-formation-while-wes-hoolahan-is-injured/?cs=7580

still unconfirmed what the injury is for wes.

[The Dunster]

I know we have some professionals on the foz with respect to these things so why are these players so fragile ?

In comparison back in the early 80's Pat Jarvis of St George needed to convince Roy Masters he was fit to play the following day.
So they went out to the carpark, Jarvis sat down with his leg out and Albert Young backed his ute over the leg a few times.

Wessi copped a slight knock off Kitto and he's gone for 12 weeks ? FFS these blokes are soft.

[turbojetfireV8]

you sure those guys played for St George Budapest??

[Jetmaster]

I know we have some professionals on the foz with respect to these things so why are these players so fragile ?

In comparison back in the early 80's Pat Jarvis of St George needed to convince Roy Masters he was fit to play the following day.
So they went out to the carpark, Jarvis sat down with his leg out and Albert Young backed his ute over the leg a few times.

Wessi copped a slight knock off Kitto and he's gone for 12 weeks ? FFS these blokes are soft.

Roy Masters - that man loved "tough".

This is how our modern day softies need to warm up in the dressing room :wink:. Didn't take much to push Les Boyd (who got suspended longer than Roy once).


https://wwos.nine.com.au/videos/tommys-infamous-dressing-room-slap/cjhmsylt900770iqr3j7rhq3z

[The Dunster]

Roy Masters - that man loved "tough".

This is how our modern day softies need to warm up in the dressing room :wink:. Didn't take much to push Les Boyd (who got suspended longer than Roy once).


https://wwos.nine.com.au/videos/tommys-infamous-dressing-room-slap/cjhmsylt900770iqr3j7rhq3z

A mate from Castle Hill used to know Boyd and Wombat back in the late 70's early 80's.. Both really nice blokes - Boyd especially - absolutely nothing like you'd imagine based on his on field behaviour.

[Dogshot99]

A-League: Lack of goals but no shortage of entertainment as Jet play out draw with Sydney

Nick Guthrie

Local Sport



There was a moment inside the final 10 minutes of Saturday's A-League pre-season match where Sydney FC coach Steve Corica looked across at the opposition bench and shared a wry smile with Newcastle Jets counterpart Ernie Merrick.

Corica had just watched his side spurn a golden chance to break the deadlock at Apex Oval and that frustrating lack of a final product was the tale of the game.



The contest finished at 0-0 but there was no shortage of excitement for the bumper crowd of 3800 at a dust-covered and blustery Dubbo.

The Jets had the best chance of the game but Socceroos forward Dimi Petratos smacked his penalty attempt into the upright early in the first half after Ryan McGowan had brought down Kaine Sheppard.

Milos Ninkovic missed a huge chance for the Sky Blues when he blazed wide when under little pressure on the edge of the area shortly after and the chances continued until the very final minute, when Newcastle's Steven Ugarkovic was played in but could only manage to hit the crossbar.

The lack of a goals was disappointing for both sets of players and the fans in attendance, but there was a huge amount of positives for both the Jets and Sky Blues.

"We hit the post and the crossbar and a couple went just wide and I thought it was a good performance overall," Jets coach Merrick said.

"We've had a fairly hectic time of it and played Adelaide in Adelaide [in the FFA Cup on Tuesday] but the boys responded and came strong again at the end.

"We're very strong and very fit so we're happy with the hit-out and Sydney played well, too."

Petratos forced a smart save from Sydney FC goalkeeper Andrew Redmayne from a freekick inside 10 minutes and on 15 minutes he stepped up to take the penalty.

He beat Redmayne but it struck the right upright and bounced clear.

Sydney FC, led by star duo Ninkovic and Adam Le Fondre, soon worked their way into the game and the former seemed destined to score on 31 minutes when Luke Ivanovic teed it up after a break down the right.

But Ninkovic put it wide of Lewis Italiano's goal and there was few other clear-cut chances before the break.

The Jets made three substitutions at half-time but an unchanged Sydney line-up came out and dominated the second stanza.

Le Fondre continued to create space for himself but the Jets' defence remained strong, while Luke Brattan blazed over the bar following more slick build-up from the Sky Blues.

Petratos shot wide soon after on one of the Jets' forays forward before Sydney FC struck the post during a stint of sustained pressure.

It seemed nothing would find the back of the net and that was proved true when three minutes into injury time Ugarkovic was put through in the box but his shot was always rising and clipped the crossbar on the way out.

"We're getting more and more of our players fit," Merrick said, having seen captain Nigel Boogaard put in a composed performance in his first 45 minutes back from knee surgery in the first half.

Centre-back partner Nikolai Topor-Stanley was also praised by the coach, as was Sheppard and new signing Bobby Burns.

Paulo Retre, getting minutes at right-back for Sydney FC due to Rhyan Grant's expected national team commitments this season, was one of his side's best and combined with Anthony Caceres to great effect on the right flank while Ninkovic, Brattan, and Brandon O'Neill all pulled the strings from midfield at different times.

"There's definitely positives, it's just about being ruthless in front of goal," Grant said.

"Hopefully we can build on that in the next few weeks before the season starts."

[Jetmaster]

Can't even afford a trip to Melbourne...


Jets CEO Lawrie McKinna said the away trial against City was cancelled after an unexpected cost blow-out for the trip, as well as the potential of the clubs meeting in the FFA Cup semi-final.

[Retro Jet]

Following on from Lucy's recent comments,
Q: Where do p!ssants live?
A: In a sh!thole
:brrr:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/football/football/zelics-nasty-adelaide-sledge!748240

Wonder what she thinks of the sCCuM Coast???

[Jetmaster]

Received membership pack...

Cardboard fixture list.
5-9 year member pin (even though I am 10 year plus)
Member cards with wrong seat numbers
Noticed one of us is paying for two memberships!

Ah well - luckily the guys at the office are very helpful.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/johnstonfootball270919.mp4

[Frodo]

Received membership pack...

Cardboard fixture list.
5-9 year member pin (even though I am 10 year plus)
Member cards with wrong seat numbers
Noticed one of us is paying for two memberships!

Ah well - luckily the guys at the office are very helpful.


They tried to charge me for 2 membership as well. Dodgy bros FC over here hoping people don't notice the charge on their card.

[belchardo]

Abc to show every saturday 5pm match, some fibals (on delay) most socceroos matches, all matildas, all w-league for the next two years. A good thing i think.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-04/abc-strikes-deal-free-to-air-home-of-football-in-australia/11562648

[plague]

Abc to show every saturday 5pm match, some fibals (on delay) most socceroos matches, all matildas, all w-league for the next two years. A good thing i think.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-04/abc-strikes-deal-free-to-air-home-of-football-in-australia/11562648

'Good' if you like the idea of the new dude at Fox hating the A-league and desperately trying to dump it.
Take note of how many studio shows fox will do this year. Word is they are being cut back massively too.

[russjaybee]

They tried to charge me for 2 membership as well. Dodgy bros FC over here hoping people don't notice the charge on their card.

More likely just a broken system, rather than double charging on purpose.

[Bon]

More likely just a broken system, rather than double charging on purpose.

Yeah, they have had issues with their payment systems..
My auto-renewal didn't go through due to getting a new credit/debit card..
Have been trying for days to pay online with new card, wouldn't happen.. Took forever to get through on the phone, the poor chick is worked off her feet..
In theory, its all sorted now..

[Jetmaster]

Advice - go the email route, gives them a bit of space and they usually reply and sort things accurately within a couple of hours. Easier without someone on the phone breathing down their neck.

[Bon]

Advice - go the email route, gives them a bit of space and they usually reply and sort things accurately within a couple of hours. Easier without someone on the phone breathing down their neck.

Can confirm, this is the best way to get it done..

[MFKS]

'Good' if you like the idea of the new dude at Fox hating the A-league and desperately trying to dump it.
Take note of how many studio shows fox will do this year. Word is they are being cut back massively too.

No great loss hearing less of Slater Harper and Brendon Speed

This is gonna be an actual blessing

[Aegon]

Extract from 'Even Heskey Scored' - Emile Heskey's Autobiography: 'It was a humbling experience'

A bit about his time in Newy and how he ended up here.

Link (https://sport.optus.com.au/articles/os551/extract-from-even-heskey-scored-emile-heskeys-autobiography?fbclid=IwAR0O0RmQKvcxHyk5eUhMhUyHjuT N9N9a_0XIJ9b58JRwNXHZdHgxHfYFWsI)

[Couscous]

Mr Heskey:


The club operated with a European coaching set-up, with Gary van Egmond in the head coach role, and a heavy Dutch influence on the coaching style. He was a very good and knowledgeable coach, who I could see would be effective coaching younger players, working on specific technical improvements in their game. I understood what he was trying to do, but some of the players didn’t engage as well as they could have, as he gave a lot of information and detail.

TLDR: "GVE was too good for the Jets."

[turbojetfireV8]

Mr Heskey:

TLDR: "GVE was too good for the Jets."

Heskey:

We played out from the back on every occasion, with the goalkeeper not allowed to kick the ball long. Our centre-backs would spread wide to receive the ball, the fullbacks would push on and midfielders would drop deep. This was all well and good in theory, but we simply didn’t have the standard of players to play this way and as soon as they were put under pressure we would panic and either give the ball away, or boot it clear.
=GVE was a narcissistic fantasist who really had no idea how to coach a real team... well spotted Emile :popcorn:

[turbojetfireV8]

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/newcastle-jets-201920-season-launch

Second year in a row Jets have called off the members' day so they can re-organise it for a less convenient time when no-one will be available to show up, not a good look for the club among their faithful, who organises this shit Jets?

On a brighter note, there is a bus to sCCuMsford for the chronically lazy who don't want to train it:
https://am.ticketmaster.com/newcastlejets/F3derby#/

[Jetmaster]

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/newcastle-jets-201920-season-launch

Second year in a row Jets have called off the members' day so they can re-organise it for a less convenient time when no-one will be available to show up, not a good look for the club among their faithful, who organises this shit Jets?

On a brighter note, there is a bus to sCCuMsford for the chronically lazy who don't want to train it:
https://am.ticketmaster.com/newcastlejets/F3derby#/

Probably cancelled cos one and only superstar Dimi can't make it.

How they will fit it in between now and season start next Saturday is anyone's guess.

[Jetmaster]

This came from nowhere...new pitch being installed.

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6436503/the-14-million-overhaul-giving-mcdonald-jones-stadium-perfect-pitch/?cs=7580

[plague]

This came from nowhere...new pitch being installed.

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6436503/the-14-million-overhaul-giving-mcdonald-jones-stadium-perfect-pitch/?cs=7580

Awesome news, and just in time for Monster Trucks!!!

[plague]

So has everyone else got their members tickets yet?

I don't, but that's because the club hates me.

[Aegon]

So has everyone else got their members tickets yet?

I don't, but that's because the club hates me.

Yup, I swapped seats about 2-3 weeks ago as well and received the updated cards at the end of last week.

[Hunter403]

This came from nowhere...new pitch being installed.

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6436503/the-14-million-overhaul-giving-mcdonald-jones-stadium-perfect-pitch/?cs=7580

And the old pitch is going to Magic? Surely there are numerous other grounds around town that would benefit froma new better surface than a club that already has a damn good surface. Alder Park, Edden Oval, Thornton Oval and numerous others would have gained a greater benefit than Magic.

[belchardo]

Magic are close, close = cheapest option, therefore turf goes to magic.

[londonboy]

And the old pitch is going to Magic? Surely there are numerous other grounds around town that would benefit froma new better surface than a club that already has a damn good surface. Alder Park, Edden Oval, Thornton Oval and numerous others would have gained a greater benefit than Magic.

Stevenson Park is due to get some of the soil to fill in the hundreds of pot holes there. Not sure about the turf itself - although it could really do with that as well.

[belchardo]

interesting - richard scudamore has been engaged to assist the A-league.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/premier-coup-former-epl-boss-scudamore-signs-on-to-help-a-league-20191015-p530x8.html

[plague]

interesting - richard scudamore has been engaged to assist the A-league.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/premier-coup-former-epl-boss-scudamore-signs-on-to-help-a-league-20191015-p530x8.html

amazing huh, who would have thought that letting a bunch of self made passionate people alone to their own devices in a competitive environment would produce more enthusiasm and innovation than having to listen to a bunch of suits with no idea tell them what to do with their own money.

ive way way way more faith in the future of the league than i ever had just on the back of letting the clubs run the comp.
theres def some really lean years ahead though.

also of note, right when the league looks forward and inspires owners to chase their egos, our bloke has given up.

also of note, this is exactly what Tinkler was pushing for the day he turned up.

[Hunter403]

Magic are close, close = cheapest option, therefore turf goes to magic.

so are Alder and particularly Edden. I just think there are others more in need.

[plague]

I was always under the impression that Magics ground was under the same precinct umbrella as McDonald Jones, Trotting track etc.

[Aegon]

Strong rumours coming out that Gary Hooper (Celtic, Norwich, etc) has signed for the Nix. If so its not a bad grab as he's just 31.

[Jeterpool]

https://www.newcastlefootball.net/home/2019/09/test/

Link to a graphical preview we are looking to release through the Jetstream each week. Thoughts and feedback welcome

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN on Zane's last match as assistant:

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetszane181019.mp4

[MFKS]

NBN on Zane's last match as assistant:

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetszane181019.mp4

So let me get this right

We have carried an Assistant coach through pre season and will have him on the bench for the first game then after that he will finish up and not be involved with the club and we ain't gonna replace him ??

The logic here is staggering

[StannyCFCJET]

So let me get this right

We have carried an Assistant coach through pre season and will have him on the bench for the first game then after that he will finish up and not be involved with the club and we ain't gonna replace him ??

The logic here is staggering

Ernie's choice

[380]

Ernie's choice

If you believe it is Ernie's call more than the real reason of budgetary constraints then you must believe the Rock really is the tooth fairy. Every decision this club has made in recent times has had the lean method of operation front and centre.

[StannyCFCJET]

If you believe it is Ernie's call more than the real reason of budgetary constraints then you must believe the Rock really is the tooth fairy. Every decision this club has made in recent times has had the lean method of operation front and centre.

Ive chosen to trust the word of our CEO and head coach as I think theve earnt our trust and support so far

[Tommyjet]

Ive chosen to trust the word of our CEO and head coach as I think theve earnt our trust and support so far

Here I was thinking I was the most gullible on this forum

[StannyCFCJET]

Here I was thinking I was the most gullible on this forum

No that will always be the memba

[MFKS]

No that will always be the memba

You believe the words of a Gypo

Pretty certain the crown is yours

[turbojetfireV8]

we continue to support this club and hope it will one day be competitive again - think we all score high on the gullibility stakes round here... :popcorn:

[Retro Jet]

So let me get this right

We have carried an Assistant coach through pre season and will have him on the bench for the first game then after that he will finish up and not be involved with the club and we ain't gonna replace him ??

The logic here is staggering

I thought he was off to NNSWF's TD role.
Not mentioned?

[MFKS]

I thought he was off to NNSWF's TD role.
Not mentioned?

Jets logic

If he wasn't needed he should have been released at the end of last season

If he was needed why release him after preseason and 1 game