The Politics/Religion/Conspiracies Deathmatch Thread

[snake]

So how bout this legalization of gay marriage hey
Equal rights and all.

would love to go to a gay marriage. reckon it would be a hoot and a holler. sick reception, guaranteed.

[snake]

I just think its more of a waste of your time than anything....

by definition, isn't it a bigger waste of my time, given he said he is closed to alternative explanations? compare that to myself, where my acceptance to a particular theory may be changed by new contradictory evidence. e.g, if god appeared in the sky saturday, i'd be singing hyms in church on sunday.

[snake]

I just think its more of a waste of your time than anything....

by definition, isn't it a bigger waste of my time, given he said he is closed to alternative explanations? compare that to myself, where my acceptance to a particular theory may be changed by new contradictory evidence. e.g, if god appeared in the sky saturday, i'd be singing hyms in church on sunday.

[MFKS]

the answers are there, implicitly. the strength of evidence of any of them is weak relatively speaking, because they're based on eyewitness testimony and police interrogation, which aren't that great.

i haven't personally investigated any of them as there's no value in it for me. so at this point, in lieu of strong evidence to the contrary, i'm happy to accept the default position. however, if there was strong evidence that were to arise casting doubt on one of the stories, i would have to reconsider this position.

obviously, the above is about the mmurders/ 9-11 stories, not the moon landing, which very obviously happened several times.

Well **** Me.

5 Believer in the Official Stories

That's not how I would have had you pegged.

If science is absolutely correct and logic is also good any doubts put on the story should see you in the Believer in the Not Believing Camp I would have thought.

I do though find it absolutely amusing that when the opinion of religion comes up you are absolutely definitively adamant in your faith of science and logic being correct.
Yet these examples particularly the JFK and 9-11 ones see you turn your back on science and logic as being definitively correct and by taking the position you have you obviously believe in something that both science and logic actually contradicts


Thought to be perfectly fair I couldn't ever see you accepting the Moon Landing as a Hoax as it if one of sciences alleged greatest feats and if it was deemed a fraud you would have a few issues

On another note though Snake seeing as you don't believe in Roswell being legit but as a some what strong believer in science evolution and logic and all that what are your thoughts on the possibility of alien life form??


Basically do you believe in little green man and flying saucers even if these little green man and flying saucers don't quite live up to the Hollywood comic stereotype with their image.

Most people would say you would have to be a little crazy to believe in them but surely you would have to believe in them being possible and probability wise being most likely???

[Premy]

Bigger things going on here Member.
Important question, do you believe in unicorns?

[plague]

Yet these examples particularly the JFK and 9-11 ones see you turn your back on science and logic as being definitively correct and by taking the position you have you obviously believe in something that both science and logic actually contradicts

Wait, are you saying there is scientific proof of a JFK and 9/11 conspiracy?

[MFKS]

Bigger things going on here Member.
Important question, do you believe in unicorns?

Don't know why you keep asking me this.

Should really be asking Snake as he believes in Evolution
According to him it should only be a matter of time as the horse evolves with a horn on its head.
Either that or Snakes scientist mates could speed it up a bit with some genetic engineering with rhinos and horses

Being that there are references to unicorns in the bible maybe the unicorn has already been and gone

[furns]

would love to go to a gay marriage. reckon it would be a hoot and a holler. sick reception, guaranteed.

At the very least - the dancing would be streets above anything at a hetero wedding

[hawk]

I just think its more of a waste of your time than anything. Whether you are offended or not, what's the point in discussing something important with someone who doesn't care if he insults you? There is no respect there, and if there isn't respect, the discussion is pointless. It's not two respectful humans discussing something with each other but two people shouting their own opinions at each other. That's why I made a genuine offer to have a discussion. I would hope that 10 years of serving the Jets community would be a foundation for a bit of respect.

well said.

Sorry, time helping the Jets community receives no reward or respect. New knobs with big voices come in and are quick to throw out culture and reasoning. good luck.

[Premy]

Don't know why you keep asking me this.

Should really be asking Snake as he believes in Evolution
According to him it should only be a matter of time as the horse evolves with a horn on its head.
Either that or Snakes scientist mates could speed it up a bit with some genetic engineering with rhinos and horses

Being that there are references to unicorns in the bible maybe the unicorn has already been and gone

So is that a yes or no?

[The Dunster]

If the moon landings were fake the Russians would have let everyone know about it. The fact that the Russians accepted defeat in the race to the moon is proof enough for me.

[MFKS]

Snake as per this question 4 about reading scriptures not becoming canon

I take it we are referring to verses that are now not found in the bible anymore yet were once in it a thousand years ago etc???

[MFKS]

So is that a yes or no?

If they are referred to in the bible and I believe in the good book the answer should be pretty straight forward shouldn't it???

[Premy]

If they are referred to in the bible and I believe in the good book the answer should be pretty straight forward shouldn't it???

One would think that it would be straight forward, tell me without getting to personal have you taken the vows of marriage yourself? If not one would hope that you're still a virgin.

[MFKS]

One would think that it would be straight forward, tell me without getting to personal have you taken the vows of marriage yourself? If not one would hope that you're still a virgin.

No not that silly and I do have to constantly be absolved of sin

[Premy]

No not that silly and I do have to constantly be absolved of sin

So you can pick and choose which part of the good book to believe in and practice in, oh I think I'm getting the hang of this.

Sure as hell hope we don't have to believe and practice in this bit of the "good" book

15:12-13
whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.

[Premy]

I'm apologies if you feel disrespected by this statement Hauss but I find it rather ironic that you are defending Christianity yet you get upset by someone forcing an opinion onto another.

[tha_hauss]

ok serious questions.

1. when and how were you introduced to you current religion?
2. is there any part of the scriptures you find concerning, or that you personally disagree with?
3. are you concerned that the books were written some time after jesus' death, and there being any possibility of transcription errors or embellishment?
4. have you read the scriptures which didn't become conon? if so, what are your thoughts?
5. have you tried or ivestigated any non-abrahamic religions, which have their own genesis stories?

thanks for your time.

I'm happy to answer these questions, but just a quick question. It seems that all these questions are designed to direct you toward a conclusion that you have already reached. Is that how scientists approach a topic? I thought that designing an experiment so that it was biased toward the result you want is a big no no. You've almost written my answers for me.

[MFKS]

So you can pick and choose which part of the good book to believe in and practice in, oh I think I'm getting the hang of this.

Sure as hell hope we don't have to believe and practice in this bit of the "good" book

15:12-13
whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.

No picking and choosing which parts.

Try and live a life free from sin embracing god as your lord and saviour

Confess your sins and seek forgiveness

[plague]

No picking and choosing which parts.

Try and live a life free from sin embracing god as your lord and saviour

Confess your sins and seek forgiveness

yeah I'm sticking up for my man Member here. you can't go picking apart every minute detail of the books.
everyone on here has broken the laws of the society we choose to live in from time to time.
besides, as he said, if you do the wrong thing just ask for forgiveness. simple.

and Hauss, don't take this stuff too personally. i think everyone is more than respectable towards your beliefs. it doesn't mean that people don't find the ideas of your beliefs absurd.
in the same way you have probably had your say on players, coaches and ceo's of this club being just as unbelievable. but those same players managers and ceos probably truly believed they belonged here.


i think there is a difference between saying religion is stupid, versus saying you are stupid for believing it.