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Speaking of these 'bad things'.......
errr you mean the ones that Obama land mined for Trump in his last few weeks in office? Obamas 'cuts' were never there during his presidency, and therefore helped no one. Trump repealed legislation designed to make him look bad by a petty ex-president*.

*and yes of course Obama isn't the only President to leave land mines for incoming Presidents.
Fair, although I was a big fan of the cuts, as I am of most policies that I believe will actually help those that need it. I don't see why Trump would reverse the policy other than to further the Republican agenda of being all things anti-Obama. It certainly goes against his campaign rhetoric of helping the little guy.

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again, cheeky, and pretty much false. All content from Obamas time in the White House gets transferred to his own archive (they rename it "obamawhitehouse.org or something). The official whitehouse.org site gets blanked and all new content starts again. He's been in office less than a day. Apparently the first blog post that went up was about energy policy so maybe we should all read that first.
No I understand content gets transferred and Trump takes charge of the site. I find it hugely concerning that Trump's new site includes nothing about civil rights, lgbtq issues, economic mobility, inequality or women's issues. This new content outlines the issues that are Trump doesn't regard as important to his administration. Of course, you are right - the content of his website is less of a concern than the openly homophobic and dangerous appointees around him like Pence.

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ok you're gonna have to help me out on this one. I can't really find any 'crack down' on free speech out there. Do you have any specific examples? id love to know what you're referring to here.
His new website (one of his six priorities) is to be a “law and order administration” while stopping what it characterised as a “dangerous anti-police atmosphere in America.” This, along with his previous statements that protestors should be physically beaten and stopped concerns me. Protesting is a fundamental building block of a democracy, and it won't do having a Pres that thinks protestors should be silenced.


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Probably as hard as GVE thinking the Jets won all those games they played because they had more possession, shots on target and corners.
Its an irrelevant topic, and one thats been discussed and explained to the sore Hillary supporters time and time and time again.

The electoral college is the system. they are the rules.
Yes politically it makes no difference. I just think it's an important distinction that while he won the Presidency, his way of thinking and ideas are not held by the majority of citizens.

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having said that, a lot of these statements from the above posts are comments I've heard time and time again over the past few years and i just ask for an explanation in to that line of thinking. and i like steves posts, and think he's a good bloke to engage with. steves posts aren't just steves thinking, a lot of people are of the same opinion and i just want to know why.

when someone posts something like the lgbt one i was genuinely concerned. but a bit of reading gave me a satisfactory answer. i relayed that back to steve because i thought it was a valid balancing point to his. if he believes it then great, and if he doesnt then thats ok too. but we've both had our say and im cool with it.
Agree 100% here. No point going around talking to people that think the exact same way - nothing to be learned in that at all. I enjoy hearing your thoughts and enjoy this thread a lot.