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    Quote Originally Posted by parksey View Post
    they should stop ****ing about with this stuff.
    You realise as recent as 1992 the backpass rule hadn't been brought in.

    And the first world cup to have 32 teams was in 1998.

    The laws of the game are continuously changing, before and during your lifetime. And I bet you would have argued against a large amount of them at the time too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk View Post
    I do like the clock stop idea but not sure if anyone below the top divisions can administer it.

    Maybe we should stick to scoring goals in the 1st 30mins then you wouldnt have to worry about the end.
    perhaps i'm just a cynic, but can't help thinking this is a trojan horse. first we stop the game regularly when the ball goes out, which gives us convenient breaks in the game, and when we've got convenient breaks we can introduce an ad, and when we've got ads, we can boost the revenue we make...

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    Yeah but backpass was a legit rule change that made the game better.

    Everything they've done to the offside rule hasn't helped (or clarified) anything.

    Most of these new ones don't 'seem' to have the same impact as the backpass rule.

    I mean this is gonna keep going on til the Yanks get bigger goals so buckle up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    You realise as recent as 1992 the backpass rule hadn't been brought in.

    And the first world cup to have 32 teams was in 1998.

    The laws of the game are continuously changing, before and during your lifetime. And I bet you would have argued against a large amount of them at the time too.
    I don't think changing the # of teams to qualify for a tournament is 'changing the laws of the game'. And citing a rule change from 25 years ago isn't proving the point of continuously changing. Got anything more recent?

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    and yes Belchardo is right this is the biggest issue with tv companies funding the sport, the ability for them to recoup those costs.

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    Is there any other sport that advertises their kick off times and actually does apart from sockah?

    From EPL to World Cups there is always a set time and the game revolves around it.

    Every other sport says 'kickoff 3pm' but it never does so they can sneak a few more ads in.

    For all FIFA's tomfoolery they have maintained the integrity of the actual game in the face of obvious pressure from commercial interests, especially compared to American sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    You realise as recent as 1992 the backpass rule hadn't been brought in.

    And the first world cup to have 32 teams was in 1998.

    The laws of the game are continuously changing, before and during your lifetime. And I bet you would have argued against a large amount of them at the time too.
    outlawing the back pass is one thing, as as plague said it was in the best interests of the game. apart from that the kick-off rule was noticeable but one that also made sense.

    changing how long a match goes for is just totally whacked. my problem with a lot of these floated rules changes lately is that they would change the fabric of the game in some ways. it's the best sport in the world, just leave it be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parksey View Post

    changing how long a match goes for is just totally whacked.
    this is the key point.

    ask any american their biggest gripes with their major sports.

    Baseball ('Americas favourite pastime') is too damn long. It has acknowledged this problem and is actively speeding the game up to end it quicker.
    The changes helped cut the average game length by 12 minutes, from three hours and eight minutes in 2014 to two hours and 56 minutes a year ago
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    An average professional football game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes
    Now, the NFL is a monolith, but once upon a time Baseball was a monolith too, and the length of games is a concern to them.

    Heck, the biggest thing for 'millennials' is the Redzone channel which just jumps from game to game when something good is happening so you dont have to sit through all those boring bits and ads. They have cannibalised their own telecasts and if you've ever watched the Redzone its the worst way to invest in a sport ever.

    Basketball: well, just go watch the final '2 minutes' of any NBA game and see how 'exciting' it really is. Team timeouts, intentional fouls, TV timeouts. It ruins the spectacle down to games only being 'good' if theres a buzzer beater. The NBA has the equivalent of Peak Barcelona dominating the sport AND arguably the greatest player ever to live playing at the same time and the Americans hate it because its not exciting enough.

    Now, soccer being the 'sleeping giant' in America thinks it can muscle into some heavily protected territory by stretching games out longer, making it even more tedious?

    The advantage soccer has at the moment is that games start on time, and are over in less than 2 hours. All the other sports evny that position, yet FIFA thinks Americans (and other 'sleeping giants' like India and China) are gonna go for it?

    Madness.
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    china and america should just nuke each other and rid us all of this problem.
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    bridges made the world in 6-8 wks

    he then rested by the corner flag and all was gud
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    Hopefully it’s the four players, but, if not, the three, and if not, the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    this is the key point.

    ask any american their biggest gripes with their major sports.

    Baseball ('Americas favourite pastime') is too damn long. It has acknowledged this problem and is actively speeding the game up to end it quicker.


    NFL

    Now, the NFL is a monolith, but once upon a time Baseball was a monolith too, and the length of games is a concern to them.

    Heck, the biggest thing for 'millennials' is the Redzone channel which just jumps from game to game when something good is happening so you dont have to sit through all those boring bits and ads. They have cannibalised their own telecasts and if you've ever watched the Redzone its the worst way to invest in a sport ever.

    Basketball: well, just go watch the final '2 minutes' of any NBA game and see how 'exciting' it really is. Team timeouts, intentional fouls, TV timeouts. It ruins the spectacle down to games only being 'good' if theres a buzzer beater. The NBA has the equivalent of Peak Barcelona dominating the sport AND arguably the greatest player ever to live playing at the same time and the Americans hate it because its not exciting enough.

    Now, soccer being the 'sleeping giant' in America thinks it can muscle into some heavily protected territory by stretching games out longer, making it even more tedious?

    The advantage soccer has at the moment is that games start on time, and are over in less than 2 hours. All the other sports evny that position, yet FIFA thinks Americans (and other 'sleeping giants' like India and China) are gonna go for it?

    Madness.
    Baseball is totally controlled by the broadcasters. What the rule book states for a strike zone and what umpires are forced to call a strike are two entirely different beasts. The reason being that the Harvard MBA's wanted to turn the game into a HR contest to make it more exciting. Pitchers cannot throw a full nine innings anymore because of the changes and as a result the bull pen gets a lot of work from not only a starter, but middle relievers, and then one or more closers until the fireman comes in to finish the game. But it's great because it allows more breaks and more time for ads........

    NFL I'm told used to be a lot faster before TV got a hold of it and made it into something that drags on far too long for what is essentially a 60 min game.

    The good side is that it creates a hell of a lot of jobs for people in many sectors of the economy / community.

    The bad side is that the mighty dollar sucks the heart and soul from the game ?

    I don't really care too much about NFL or Basketball chasing the dollar - but baseball is so much more than either of those sports will ever be to the American culture - or what's left of it I guess.

    You want to fix baseball - make umpires call the zone as per the rule book. Problem solved.
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    I used to be an NRL member and watched several games most weekends. Apart from the boofs playing it, they just tinkered and played with the rules and they still are because once you start you can't get it right.

    T20 cricket is now made for the "eat and run" crowd and TV bogans. The rules are designed to suit. And things keep changing in cricket - huge opening ceremonies and last night they were broadcasting the third umpire over the loudspeakers at the ground.

    I no longer watch NRL and don't watch T20 at all. They are made for TV and if football goes down this path it will go too. One of it's great claims was that you could throw a few jumpers in any park and play a game anywhere in the world.

    Just leave it alone and only tweak where needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
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    An average professional football game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes
    holy crap! i knew not a lot went on, but that is just plain crazy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetmaster View Post
    I used to be an NRL member and watched several games most weekends. Apart from the boofs playing it, they just tinkered and played with the rules and they still are because once you start you can't get it right.
    I cannot agree with this enough.

    I don't understand why these rules need to change. Don't create new rules to fix the ones you aren't enforcing correctly in the first place.
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    I thought it must have been an article taking the piss. Some of those suggestions were hilarious.
    Some of the ones I don't mind:
    - only blow full time when the ball goes out of play.
    - enforcement of the 6 seconds for goalkeeper
    - clearer and more transparent stoppage time
    - clearer definition of handball

    What I'd like:
    - sort out the offside rule so it's a bit more clear cut


    Portugal had a goal overturned by VAR this morning. Player was offside in the immediate build up. I didn't see it live, so I'm not sure how quick the decision was. In the end, it eliminates the controversy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball Enthusiast View Post
    Yeah the City fans have been rejoycing all morning.

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    Inevitable though, it was only a matter of time before they made Joyce Mayne man at that club.
    He's earned it.

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    Yeah the City fans have been rejoycing all morning.
    all 5 of them?

    To be fair, it's a pretty good Joyce.

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