I dunno if you can score 31 goals in the Premier league season having missed the first 6 games, and not be great...
As for Sterling, time will tell.
I dunno if you can score 31 goals in the Premier league season having missed the first 6 games, and not be great...
As for Sterling, time will tell.
the thing about suarez is that it's hard to say exactly how good he is right now. i mean he's been unbelievable over the last two seasons but have a look at guys like falcao or diego costa who have both scored an insane amount of goals (falcao not this season as he's been injured) during the same period. do you consider them to be "great" players? have a look at sturridge. is he just in good form? he has always been a pretty average premier league player up until his switch to liverpool.
guys like ronaldo, messi, iniesta, zlatan, robben, ribery, lahm, reus. those are great players.
Originally Posted by snake
Great season.
See Parksey for list of great players. Add Henry, Veira and bergkamp..... Suarez not yet in that class. Yet.
pfffft, sif an Arsenal fan knows about great players. You lot reckon Martin Keown was Paulo Maldini with a wobbly bottom lip.
Yeah sorry my idea of great isnt prob the same as others.
I think Maradona, Zidane, Fat Ronaldo, Iniesta (maybe Messi) are on a level all by themselves.
The blokes you mentioned i think are great (which is a level below my 'greatest' list).
Id put Suarez on there right now, and Gerrard from this Liverpool team. no others.
Id also have Rooney/Scholes/Giggs from those Man U teams.
Cantona is on a level all by himself somewhere, i just dont know where it is.
*note, I dont know about those 'old timey' guys like Best/Dalgleish etc to comment, im not ignoring them.
** 2nd note, glad you put lahm on there, massively underrated.
Suarez is a good player who is an absolute grub.
Last night he got chopped and went down like he had been hit by a sledge hammer. Ref ignored it and the **** was still rolling around the ground until he realised Liverpool had the ball and he might be in a position to score.
The bloke then proceeded to get up and run at break neck speed into a position for his teammate. Play broke down he never got the ball and then the bloke was once again on the floor with the theatrics. FMD Good news was that he had copped a good kicking from some hack to start with.
Great player Yes
Despicable human though.
PS Disclaimer if Tinks finds some spare money under his couch and signs him to partner Griff at Stade de Newy all past sins I find with this bloke will be absolved
I can forgive easily!!!
So many sour grapes
Liverpool!!!!!
Novocastria Youth
yep, you're right, hes the only bloke who has ever done that.
Also, was this the incident going around the twitterverse today showing his massive 'dive' (it was on an american sports site), then all the commenters were like DERRRR HES A DISGRACE DERRRRR, yet when they showed the other angle he was clearly fouled and the tackle probably deserved a red?
was it that one?
anyway, shame hes not as upstanding citizen like your Henrys, Keanes, Vieras, Keown, Griffiths etc etc etc.
yours is a tired argument, get a new one.
Griff is an upstanding citizen.
Why do you feel the need to disrespect the great man by associating him with those ****s.
No the incident I am referring to ain't that one. It was another.
for the record i think suarez is one of the best players in the world right now. i hate his guts but you can't deny what he is doing right now. he can shoot, pass, beat players, score from free kicks and has a phenomenal work-rate. he's the player that rooney could have been had he not suffered injuries and become lazy. he will never be ronaldo or messi good, though.
also gerrard has actually had the quietest, least influential year of his career (that I can remember). he has taken on a new role which pretty much has been sit in with the centre-backs and let suarez, coutinho, sturridge and sterling do their thing while the fullbacks bomb on. no doubt he will receive high praise in any case.
Agree re:Suarez but I think you're tough on Rooney. Still reackon he's one of the top 5 players in the Prem.
Disagree re:Gerrard. It's debatable that he's been more influential this year because of Liverpools long standing troubles at the back. They've never had a drama scoring these past few years but defending has been ordinary. Gerrard is almost playing a sweeper role in attack and cleans up so much shit. They certainly don't seem to miss him in the front third. I think a lot of neutrals would be happy to see a local lad/one club player like him get a winners medal so yeah he'll get a sympathetic run from the press.
Suarez doesn't shag nannys either
On the Gerrard hanging back issue. He has played a defensive/playing out role but the pool defence is quite leaky (8th) and will need attention once their attack is subdued
Just saw a picture of a mate on fb who went in. Decent crowd there!!
OK
Rooney on his day can still do everything but, sadly for United fans, that doesn't happen very often anymore. I don't really know where his best position is these days.
Yeah exactly. Liverpool have been suspect at the back all season and Gerrard hasn't really done much to aid that. Rodgers will definitely need to address that aspect of the side because they've pretty much been riding on the coattails of their outrageous attack this season.
Nowhere on the Gypo Coast with a TV huh???
Our defence is shit. We virtually have a rookie in Flanagan. And 3 2nd rate centre backs. Agger has been poor. Skrtel has stood up this season to continue his history of good seasons when hes nearing the end of a contract. And sakho, who looks awkward but isn't too bad.
Coupled with Johnson's 1 good, 4 bad.
Gerrard dropping back is more of a way to allow him to play 90 minutes more than anything. It works well with Henderson who works tirelessly in defence. Gerrard drops into a sweeper role more often. If class
Him as a attacking centre back. Opposed to a defensive midfield tbh. He rarely comes forward when we break. Wouldn't mind seeing Lucas drop to dm push gerrard up into the cm/lcm/rcm with coutinho/Allen play 60 minutes and come off. The absence of Henderson is bigger than we think IMO. He allows everyone to pretty much do as they please as he always has the legs to get back and defend when the rest bomb forward.
But yeh, biggest task for Rogers is to sort our shit defence out . I think we should retain reina for the cl and in case of Mignolet injury/poor performance. Need a full back who can play either side ideally. And hopefully Enrique is back. And maybe a "great" cb with cl experience.
It was a good turn out.
That player is already on the books at Liverpool.
Steven Gerrard.
Put him back there, he'd immediately become a Pique clone. It would extend his career and they could put some fresher legs in the mids. Bloke can play the position with his eyes closed.
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Also, for anyone counting chickens.
If Chelsea win this weekend then Man City would most likely win out on GD.
Still think Everton need to do their red neighbours a big favour against City.
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