SQUAD FOR 2015/16 SEASON - no Griff, no party

[plague]

If we can't get Coe, Kennedy's our best and only option for keeper. Unless you'd prefer Pasfield, Vreski, Young or Acton?

Young is trash.

[JetRift]

Young is trash.

They're all trash. Pasfield would be lucky to get a trial with Cooks Hill.

[Jetmaster]

BK is there and is the incumbent, yes we do need that second quality keeper to push him and compete. But there are more pressing concerns in our squad to fill right now.

[Mark325]

Seriously just sign Ireland and let him and Kennedy go at it for a starting 11 spot, not that hard

[The Camel]

BK is there and is the incumbent, yes we do need that second quality keeper to push him and compete. But there are more pressing concerns in our squad to fill right now.

That's the thing. I do not want us to recruit someone to compete with BK. I want a 1st choice keeper signed. I do not want BK anywhere near the starting 11 unless there is an injury. Unlike some I think Goalkeeper is on par in terms of importance as a top striker. That is where we need quality, not only to hold out games but to marshall the defence. We will not make the finals if BK is in goals for a majority of games. He is just no where near the required standard.

[plague]

We will not make the finals if BK is in goals for a majority of games. He is just no where near the required standard.

except, yanno, you're already dead wrong on that one chief.

[MFKS]

except, yanno, you're already dead wrong on that one chief.

If the standard is mediocre that we are actually aspiring to then you are dead set right Plague

[plague]

If the standard is mediocre that we are actually aspiring to then you are dead set right Plague

Nah, what i was saying is that The Camel is factually incorrect.

Opinion and aspirations not necessary, his post was wrong.

[The Camel]

except, yanno, you're already dead wrong on that one chief.

I am glad you can see the future where the Jets are in the finals with BK in goals. I cannot see it. Opposition teams only need to hit free kicks on target and they are a fair chance of going in.

I am also talking about where this league is now. Not where it was 4-5 years ago.

[MFKS]

I am glad you can see the future where the Jets are in the finals with BK in goals. I cannot see it. Opposition teams only need to hit free kicks on target and they are a fair chance of going in.

I am also talking about where this league is now. Not where it was 4-5 years ago.

I think he was referring to the FACT that last time we made the finals BK was in goals that season. It does technically make your statement incorrect though we get your sentiment

[plague]

I am glad you can see the future where the Jets are in the finals with BK in goals. I cannot see it. Opposition teams only need to hit free kicks on target and they are a fair chance of going in.

I am also talking about where this league is now. Not where it was 4-5 years ago.

yeah yeah cool cool thats a fine attempt to admit you're wrong.

its ok though. there is an edit button down bottom right where you can go and change your post from a petty swipe at the bloke to the one you are now pretending it was.

all good.

[The Camel]

I think he was referring to the FACT that last time we made the finals BK was in goals that season. It does technically make your statement incorrect though we get your sentiment

We also had 60% of our wins that season in the 9 games when Neil Young was in goals. Just saying.

[Jetmaster]

10 seasons, 100 plus games, seen off the over-rated Birrashitti and a slew of coaches, a Champions medal and won us our last finals victory.

You can't "pretend" to be any good for 10 years and not be found out....:blah:

[plague]

We also had 60% of our wins that season in the 9 games when Neil Young was in goals. Just saying.

thats a cool stat and one which still doesn't make up for the fact you were wrong.
we can keep doing this dance chief or you can move on and be a little more careful with your zingers next time.

[tomo]

Im agreeing with the camel. BK is a decent back up, but we need to aim higher for our first choice keeper

[plague]

Im agreeing with the camel. BK is a decent back up, but we need to aim higher for our first choice keeper

yeah pretty much everyone on here would rather that.
and we pretty much all agree about getting better strikers.
and we pretty much all agree on getting better midfielders.

we just are having trouble agreeing how we'll fit them all in the cap 'tis all.

[Jeterpool]

yeah pretty much everyone on here would rather that.
and we pretty much all agree about getting better strikers.
and we pretty much all agree on getting better midfielders.

we just are having trouble agreeing how we'll fit them all in the cap 'tis all.

I reckon we get the accountants from Perth or the storm. Third times a charm, right?

[MFKS]

I reckon we get the accountants from Perth or the storm. Third times a charm, right?

You think by now they will have learned from their mistakes.

Better yet we should just poach Sydney FC's they seem to have it under control

[JetRift]

Brad Jones has just been released by Liverpool. On to it Murphy.

[Thomas477]

Brad Jones has just been released by Liverpool. On to it Murphy.

This. **** BK, **** Lawrence Thomas, **** Biraz. Get it done Murph.

[Jeterpool]

Brad Jones has just been released by Liverpool. On to it Murphy.

Yep.

[The Camel]

Brad Jones has just been released by Liverpool. On to it Murphy.

Either him or bring Alex Cisak home

[stopper2]

Pepper leaving is probably a godsend, that now leaves Kanta, Cooper and Barresi as our midfielders. Finding a high quality central midfielder should be our highest priority now. James Holland is now without a club so he should be targeted even as a possible Aussie marquee.

[JetRift]

Pepper leaving is probably a godsend, that now leaves Kanta, Cooper and Barresi as our midfielders. Finding a high quality central midfielder should be our highest priority now. James Holland is now without a club so he should be targeted even as a possible Aussie marquee.

Totally agree. Midfield should be top priority. Lot of decent Aussies lookin for a club. Holland, Carle, Kilkenny, Amini, Murdocca, La Rocca, Kalmar.....

[Wilso8948]

Totally agree. Midfield should be top priority. Lot of decent Aussies lookin for a club. Holland, Carle, Kilkenny, Amini, Murdocca, La Rocca, Kalmar.....

La Rocca for Aussie marquee!..

[Grimario]

Totally agree. Midfield should be top priority. Lot of decent Aussies lookin for a club. Holland, Carle, Kilkenny, Amini, Murdocca, La Rocca, Kalmar.....

Chris Herd...

[JetRift]

Chris Herd...

Still contracted to Villa

[Jeterpool]

Still contracted to Villa

Last I read his contract was up but Villa are allowing him to stay to complete his rehabilitation and allow Sherwood and opportunity to view him with the potential of a new contact.

I think we need to aim a bit higher than Carle (wh hasn't played for almost a year). Murdocca, La Rocca (who would take up a Visa spot) and Kalmaar too. The others on your list appear to be a decent level.

[tomo]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/06/11/pascoe-named-newcastle-jets-acting-football-manager

Interesting, considering i dont rate him

[JetRift]

Not a big fan either but I wish Jimmy good luck. Still think Gary should get a gig within either the youth squad or at least a technical director role. Blokes being wasted in his current position... Yes, I am serious.

[tomo]

Pascoes top priorities IMO is to get cowburn on a senior deal, and throw money at dimitrejevic

[joel31]

Just to clear up the confusion that a lot of people have on facebook and possibly on this forum. Pascoe is not interim coach. He is just doing admin stuff under the title Football Operations Manager that Nic Deluca did before he left for family reasons - "The former Hunter Sports High Director of Sport and FFA A-License coach will assist with the planning and development of the team’s pre-season campaign, player recruitment, and Hyundai A-League compliance matters."

[tomo]

Just to clear up the confusion that a lot of people have on facebook and possibly on this forum. Pascoe is not interim coach. He is just doing admin stuff under the title Football Operations Manager that Nic Deluca did before he left for family reasons - "The former Hunter Sports High Director of Sport and FFA A-License coach will assist with the planning and development of the team’s pre-season campaign, player recruitment, and Hyundai A-League compliance matters."

Im well aware of that. But if u read it, it says he will assist in planning pre-season and PLAYER RECRUITMENT

[Premy]

Just to clear up the confusion that a lot of people have on facebook and possibly on this forum. Pascoe is not interim coach. He is just doing admin stuff under the title Football Operations Manager that Nic Deluca did before he left for family reasons - "The former Hunter Sports High Director of Sport and FFA A-License coach will assist with the planning and development of the team’s pre-season campaign, player recruitment, and Hyundai A-League compliance matters."
That's funny could of sworn I herd De Bohun on the radio saying that James will be coming in as "Interim Football Manager" feck me I'm hearing shit again, must of been our Father coming for another visit.

[joel31]

Im well aware of that. But if u read it, it says he will assist in planning pre-season and PLAYER RECRUITMENT
From what I am aware of the football operations manager is not like a European style director of footballer that buys who they want. They just are the person who negotiates with players and agents. From what was in place at the club when Nic Deluca was operations manager was that the coach identified who he wanted and Nic did negotiations. I think there is little chance we will sign anyone until the coach is announced unless the coach to be has already stated their approval

[joel31]

That's funny could of sworn I herd De Bohun on the radio saying that James will be coming in as "Interim Football Manager" feck me I'm hearing shit again, must of been our Father coming for another visit.
The role is called football manager (or football operations manager). In Australia that is a completely different role to head coach

[furns]

We were supposed to have the former COO of football QLD Ben Mannion appointed as the replacement Football Operations Manager but when I quizzed the Jets about it on twitter they said Ben was appointed by HSG and wasn't brought over to the new entity. I assume that's because he hadn't actually started, and one or both of the parties decided to walk away.
This is a precursor to a coach being appointed I believe because we need to get the ball rolling immediately on recruitment as soon as a coach is announced and we need someone to get the deals sorted once he identifies who he wants. With everything going on at the club, it's probably too much to expect Murphy to deal with that along with everything else as well. I would hope a coach will be announced in the next 7 days.

[tomo]

We were supposed to have the former COO of football QLD Ben Mannion appointed as the replacement Football Operations Manager but when I quizzed the Jets about it on twitter they said Ben was appointed by HSG and wasn't brought over to the new entity. I assume that's because he hadn't actually started, and one or both of the parties decided to walk away.
This is a precursor to a coach being appointed I believe because we need to get the ball rolling immediately on recruitment as soon as a coach is announced and we need someone to get the deals sorted once he identifies who he wants. With everything going on at the club, it's probably too much to expect Murphy to deal with that along with everything else as well. I would hope a coach will be announced in the next 7 days.

From what ive heard, Mannion was offered a significantly lower deal instead of like for like

[Pico]

What I don't like the sound of is this token 'strong novocastrian spirit' **** that best bloke for the job gets the gig, no leg ups just cause your a local, sure if the people are comparable promote the local but this idea that a club must be staffed by locals to have a connection is just silly.

[BodyNovo]

We were supposed to have the former COO of football QLD Ben Mannion appointed as the replacement Football Operations Manager but when I quizzed the Jets about it on twitter they said Ben was appointed by HSG and wasn't brought over to the new entity. I assume that's because he hadn't actually started, and one or both of the parties decided to walk away.
This is a precursor to a coach being appointed I believe because we need to get the ball rolling immediately on recruitment as soon as a coach is announced and we need someone to get the deals sorted once he identifies who he wants. With everything going on at the club, it's probably too much to expect Murphy to deal with that along with everything else as well. I would hope a coach will be announced in the next 7 days.

every bloke in the HAL we try to sign will all ask the exact same question first; who's the coach going to be?

hopefully they have the right answer.

[&1gest]

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[JetRift]

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Interesting... Hopefully this means he has come to terms with his ego. Nobody in Europe wants him. We do.

[The Postman]

Squad = 13
1. Mark Birighitti - 15/16
5. Ben Kantarovski - 15/16
7. Enver Alivodic - 15/16
15. Josh Baressi - 15/16
19. Mitch Cooper - 16/17
20. Ben Kennedy - 16/17
21. Daniel Mullen - 16/17
22. Lee Ki-Je - 16/17
23. David Carney - 15/16
27. Radan Pavicevic - 16/17
## Andy Brennan - 16/17
## Themba Muata-Marlow 16/17
## Nigel Boogaard - 17/18

Trainees = 1
25. Brandon Lundy - 15/16

[JetRift]

Coach? Check. Here's a full list of all players who have been released over the off season. Rukavystsa, Dugandzic, Bulut, Ognenovski, Nabbout personally catch my eye.

Kenny Cunningham
Josh Brindell-South
Jason Hicks
Yianni Perkatis
Iacopo La Rocca
Ante Covic
Jason Trifiro
Tomi Juric
Nikita Rukavytsya
Kerem Bulut
Nick Ward
Nick Kalmar
Adrian Madaschi
Yojiro Takahagi
Yūsuke Tanaka
Marc Janko
Ivan Necevski
Saša Ognenovski
Corey Gameiro
Miloš Dimitrijević
Hagi Gligor
Peter Triantis
Nick Carle
Rostyn Griffiths
Youssouf Hersi
Daniel De Silva
Zenon Caravella
Taylor Regan
James Virgili
Sam Gallagher
John Solari
Jordan Brown
Nathan Coe
Andrew Nabbout
Massimo Murdocca
Kew Jaliens
Rob Wielaert
Iain Ramsay
Mate Dugandzic
Dejan Pandurevic
Matt Simon
Brent Griffiths
Isaka Cernak
Hayden Morton
Tom Slater
Zachary Anderson
Kofi Danning
George Lambadaridis
Andrija Kaluđerović

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Bulut, Kalmar, Gameiro, Gligor, Dugandzic for me

[Jeterpool]

Og retired

[pv4]

Something that is becoming worrying is our options at right back.

Nev is gone.

People think Mullen can play there, which he isn't suited to and his spell in the hal at wsw there proved it.

Rumours we're looking at Hoffman to play there!

Sign Cowburn to a senior contract, or somehow convince Risdon to leave Perth, or I'm worried.

[Tommyjet]

Something that is becoming worrying is our options at right back.

Nev is gone.

People think Mullen can play there, which he isn't suited to and his spell in the hal at wsw there proved it.

Rumours we're looking at Hoffman to play there!

Sign Cowburn to a senior contract, or somehow convince Risdon to leave Perth, or I'm worried.

Georgievski

[pv4]

Georgievski

He could definitely play there. I was confident he'd go to wsw but with jamieson and neville they don't really need him anymore. He'd come at a price though.

If we had our pick from MV I'd love Galloway tbh.

[The Postman]

Barry Toohey has broken down the dire Salary Cap situation we are in.

Salary Cap of 2.6 million

Current 13 players are taking up about 1.8 Million leaving around 800k to play with.

Carney = 240k
Boogard = 230k
Ki Jee = 200k
Birighitti = 180k
Kennedy = 130k +
Kantarovski = 130k +
Mullen = 130k +
Alivodic = 130k +
Cooper = 90k
Barresi = 55k - 90k
Pavicevic = 55k - 90k
Brennan = 55k - 90k
Marlow = 55k - 90k

[Jeterpool]

Barry Toohey has broken down the dire Salary Cap situation we are in.

Salary Cap of 2.6 million

Current 13 players are taking up about 1.8 Million leaving around 800k to play with.

Carney = 240k
Boogard = 230k
Ki Jee = 200k
Birighitti = 180k
Kennedy = 130k +
Kantarovski = 130k +
Mullen = 130k +
Alivodic = 130k +
Cooper = 90k
Barresi = 55k - 90k
Pavicevic = 55k - 90k
Brennan = 55k - 90k
Marlow = 55k - 90k

So $800k to get 10 - 12 players. That's without a starting striker or a midfield. It's been my biggest concern all along.

Take 3 potential marquees out of that and it makes it look a lot better.

[GazFish35]

Where'd he get these figures?

[Jeterpool]

Where'd he get these figures?

Oh, you know, X player has to be earning X much

[rhysd]

Pretty sure last I heard bk was closer to 70-80

[WolfMan]

Where'd he get these figures?

From my limited knowledge of the situation, he isn't far off the money (pardon the pun).

I had been assuming approximately 700k left in the salary cap.

While ever the FFA retain control of the club, we can forget about any marquees.

Hence links with Hoffman and the like are about all we can expect

[rhysd]

Not to mention that we were closer to 80% spend of the salary cap and that was while griff, madaschi, jaliens, celeski were still here..

Can't really see how all those numbers stack up tbh.

Plus there is no more Neville who would be demanding closer to 120k one would think.

The kanta and bk figures would be the baffling ones, even taking into consideration rises in wages over the years the increments wouldn't add up to those figures.

I am calling horse dung.

[Jetmaster]

Let's be realistic. The FFA pays the salary cap anyway so no problem there. They will try to get nearly a full squad under that cap. This is also where Griff's offer to play for nothing should be investigated.
As for the marquees, if the FFA is confident of getting an ownership transfer within the next couple of months, then they will leave those decisions for them. They won't buy marquees and hand over the bill to the new ownership. The repair job will take a little time.
And I doubt those posted figured as I know BK actually took a reduction on his last deal to stay in Newcastle because of his mothers illness. Closer to 100 rather than 130.

[Hunter403]

If that is what we are playing our under performing players then what are Victory et al playing their performing teams and how do they stay below the cap?

[Tommyjet]

If that is what we are playing our under performing players then what are Victory et al playing their performing teams and how do they stay below the cap?
I'm baffled really. We are gonna need to sign a lot if cheap players eg travis cooper, max burgess, griff(because he chooses to) , Reagan, Lundy and maybe nicky carle and then save some for 3 to 4 decent quality players

[Jetmaster]

So you guys put all your faith in figures produced by a journalist from the "official newspaper of the Newcastle Knights"?

Let's just see what players we sign in the next 6 weeks and make up our minds then.

[Jeterpool]

So you guys put all your faith in figures produced by a journalist from the "official newspaper of the Newcastle Knights"?

Let's just see what players we sign in the next 6 weeks and make up our minds then.

100%! When have the papers ever got it wrong?? :gent:

[hawk]

so where are the new players?

[The Postman]

so where are the new players?

Miller is back in ENG sorting his move to Newy.

Would imagine once he is in town the signings will start to happen.

[Grimario]

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/muata-marlow-intent-on-making-impressive-impact/1ix35aszdb0l01vu0qh93lt2eh

[hawk]

Miller is back in ENG sorting his move to Newy.

Would imagine once he is in town the signings will start to happen.

thanks posty, stay safe on the ct110

[boz-monaut]

not buying the 'in England' excuse - it is possible to organise getting Joel Griffiths autograph on a contract while overseas

all you need is a piece of paper and a pen

[q-money]

scott miller must go

[white city]

I Thought i saw something on twitter, regarding a signing to be announced by end of this week. i guess that was the announcement of Beechwood and not a new player.

any info on whether we have started talking to some potential players now that JP is on board i would have thought he would be leading most of this in Miller's absence and due to his knowledge of the league?

[hawk]

Beech Wood is blonde headed bloke. constructs a good midfield

[stopper2]

I Thought i saw something on twitter, regarding a signing to be announced by end of this week. i guess that was the announcement of Beechwood and not a new player.

any info on whether we have started talking to some potential players now that JP is on board i would have thought he would be leading most of this in Miller's absence and due to his knowledge of the league?

Isn't that what our illustrious Football Manager, Mr Pascoe is there for?
Thought his role entailed helping recruit players and contracts etc.
His role is officially in a "Acting" capacity, lets just hope it stays that way until Miller brings in someone who is truly professional and knowledgeable and who is looking after the club's best interests.....not about pushing his own agenda.

[tomo]

I Thought i saw something on twitter, regarding a signing to be announced by end of this week. i guess that was the announcement of Beechwood and not a new player.

any info on whether we have started talking to some potential players now that JP is on board i would have thought he would be leading most of this in Miller's absence and due to his knowledge of the league?

Before Miller went back to england to pack up. He and JP sat down for a day and went through a heap of names for potential recruits/scouting. If they decided there was someone they liked then it would get handed over to Pascoe to do the wheeling and dealing...

In regards to a potential signing by the end of the week, i heard we're signing atleast 1 of the players we let go. Whether that happens this week or happens at all i dont know. But chances are it would've been the Beechwood deal

[tomo]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/06/26/dundee-united-chief-inching-closer-newcastle-jets-takeover

[stopper2]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/06/26/dundee-united-chief-inching-closer-newcastle-jets-takeover

Don't get me wrong I think that Thompson's expertise coming from a football background is just what this club needs, BUT I would be wary giving him the majority stakehold in the club if it is a consortium of owners. Will his priority be this club, OUR club or does he see owning the Newcastle Jets as an opportunity with the ultimate goal of benefitting his Dundee United???
All I say is FFA, take your time and do your due diligence, you can't afford to mess this one up not only for the good of the game in this region but probably for the whole credibility of the A League too.

[hawk]

Lets not jump into bed with the next available

[Jetmaster]

FFA have said they are talking to 6-7 parties and Thompson has said he wants a consortium, the community part has reared its head too. He has also said many times that this has nothing to do with Dundee United so the continued murmurs of colour changes et al befuddle me. He is in it as a private investor.

I am confident that the FFA are doing everything to get this right. An NDA doesn't mean a done deal - I've had two cross my desk this week. Doesnt guarantee a business agreement though.

[pv4]

Internet has told me we're linked with Bobby Zamora and Leo Bertos.

[plague]

Internet has told me we're linked with Bobby Zamora and Leo Bertos.

please switch off your modem. wait 10 seconds then turn it back on.

[WolfMan]

Zamora would walk this league

[Tommyjet]

Internet has told me we're linked with Bobby Zamora and Leo Bertos.

Obviously don't want bertos at this age or even 5 years ago for that matter.

If a marquee like Zamora is signed, we would have to imagine that behind the scenes the FFA are pretty well advanced with new ownership and confident those possible parties happy at forking out for a marquee.

[Tommyjet]

I would join the squadron just to sing some of the bobby Zamora songs

[OmeletteDuFromage]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/zamora-eyes-league-move

[Buddha]

Zamora. Yuck, I'd rather bring back Emile

[leftrightout]

Zamora. Yuck, I'd rather bring back Emile


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhSab5mgL84

Id take him!

[Thomas477]

YouTube highlights show he has the goods, we can't go wrong by signing him.

[stopper2]

Why do other clubs scout all around the world for a marquee while we just seem to limit ourselves to the EPL?
Some of the best imports to come to the A League (who weren't even necessarily marquees) never played in the EPL.....Broich, Berisha, Hernandez, Janko, Carrusca, Patrick Zwaanzjik (sorry for the spelling) etc.
Either we get someone who is still in their prime or forget about it, very rarely has a marquee in their mid-30's been a success in the A League.

[pv4]

Why do other clubs scout all around the world for a marquee while we just seem to limit ourselves to the EPL?
Some of the best imports to come to the A League (who weren't even necessarily marquees) never played in the EPL.....Broich, Berisha, Hernandez, Janko, Carrusca, Patrick Zwaanzjik (sorry for the spelling) etc.
Either we get someone who is still in their prime or forget about it, very rarely has a marquee in their mid-30's been a success in the A League.

It's because there is this ridiculous ingrained notion in Newcastle that if you're English, you know football. People were legit fapping over Stubbins' accent when he first signed.

[WolfMan]

English bias aside, it's players like Zamora who have a nose for goal and are also a bit of a kunt that will do the business.

Andy Keogh was always more of a wide man in a front 3 at Wolves, but he is a great point man given the current standard of our league's defence.

[GazFish35]

Getting "a name" from the epl is a less risky move from an off field perspective.

Heskey is a prime example, rubbish on the field, but sold shirts, got column inches in papers and got bums on seats.

Get a no name who might well be the next Thomas brooch and you run the risk of him being both shit on the field and worthless off it.


"A name" from the epl is a safer bet.
From the epl? Because that's what most peripheral football fans know about.

[borat]

But Zamora isn't just any name from the EPL. There is the connection with Miller. I have no problem with Miller using his Fulham connections for recruitment

[evolution]

But Zamora isn't just any name from the EPL. There is the connection with Miller. I have no problem with Miller using his Fulham connections for recruitment

As a Fulham fan, I for one welcome our new Cottager overlords.

[Premy]

The only 34+ type of players to come out here should be the likes of your Pirlo's, Ibra's and Gerrard's players that are world class.

Anything else is throwing money at a horse that's already bolted.

[q-money]

Zamora would walk this league sign him up

[WolfMan]

Zamora would walk this league


Zamora would walk this league sign him up

Inb4 the multi accusations

[ToddG NBUnited]

Nick Cowburn has been invited to train with the first team in order to attempt to impress the new coaching staff to earn a contract.

[leftrightout]

Why do other clubs scout all around the world for a marquee while we just seem to limit ourselves to the EPL?
Some of the best imports to come to the A League (who weren't even necessarily marquees) never played in the EPL.....Broich, Berisha, Hernandez, Janko, Carrusca, Patrick Zwaanzjik (sorry for the spelling) etc.
Either we get someone who is still in their prime or forget about it, very rarely has a marquee in their mid-30's been a success in the A League.

Its because finding a broich, berisha etc isnt that easy. For every one of those there has been a number a absolute bombs.
De Groot, Drovandi, Hakansson. And they are just some of the Jets ones.
Even the most successful team in A-league, Victory, have had terrible ones. Riccardinho, Leandro Love, Jonathan Bru (and he was one of Anges, the master!)

Im just saying its all well and good to say go and find these guys, but they obviously aren't that easy to find and to get them to perform.

[Jeterpool]

Nick Cowburn has been invited to train with the first team in order to attempt to impress the new coaching staff to earn a contract.

That's good to hear

[pv4]

Nick Cowburn has been invited to train with the first team in order to attempt to impress the new coaching staff to earn a contract.

Excellent news, but IMO it's the new coaching staff that need to impress Nick. We have lost Scott Neville, our main right back, and also Peppz who it pained me when referred to as a backup RB but still.

Our only current options for RB are Daniel Mullen, and possibly Themba Muata-Marlow (I'll be honest, I have zero idea if he plays CB or wide back). And if Miller/JPdM watch Mullen at RB for the Wanderers in the league, they'll realise how awful a choice that is, and that Mullen should ONLY be considered at CB.

So we have no right backs, yet have in our grasp someone who performed superbly for us last season. IMO it's a disgrace we're treating Nick with such distance.

[Frodo]

I think we are actually already taking this strategy of finding decent imports in their prime rather than the EPL over 35's squad.

Leaky Jeans and Allo'Allo'vodic are unknowns in their prime, but we are only paying them good money instead of marquee money. It's like we are playing the import pokies and betting 20c at a time instead of TCF $5 hits like Victory/Shitney?

[Jeterpool]

Its because finding a broich, berisha etc isnt that easy. For every one of those there has been a number a absolute bombs.
De Groot, Drovandi, Hakansson. And they are just some of the Jets ones.
Even the most successful team in A-league, Victory, have had terrible ones. Riccardinho, Leandro Love, Jonathan Bru (and he was one of Anges, the master!)

Im just saying its all well and good to say go and find these guys, but they obviously aren't that easy to find and to get them to perform.

Very true. Here is our list of Visa players over the years - who would be considered a hit/ok/miss?

Ali Abbas
Bernardo Ribeiro
Denni Rocha Dos Santos
Dominik Ritter
Donny De Groot
Edmundo Zura
Edson Montano
Emile Heskey
Enver Alivodic
Fabio Vignaroli
Francis Jeffers
Guy Bates
Jeremy Brockie
Jeronimo Neumann
Jesper Hakansson
Jonny Steele
Jorge Drovandi
Kew Jaliens
Ki-Je Lee
Labinot Haliti
Marcello Fiorentini
Marcos Flores
Mario Jardel
Mateo Corbo
Michael Bridges
Milton Rodriguez
Shuo Zhang
Song Jin-Hyung
Steven Old
Sung-Hwan Byun
Tiago Calvano
Tomislav Misura
Vaughan Coveny

[pv4]

Probably not fair to include:
Jeremy Brockie
Jeronimo Neumann
Marcos Flores
Michael Bridges
Sung-Hwan Byun

As they were known to the league already.

[Jeterpool]

Probably not fair to include:
Jeremy Brockie
Jeronimo Neumann
Marcos Flores
Michael Bridges
Sung-Hwan Byun

As they were known to the league already.

The list was of our Visa players only for people's interest and debate.

[Grimario]

Nick Cowburn has been invited to train with the first team in order to attempt to impress the new coaching staff to earn a contract.

That's good news but he was one of the few highlights from last year. He's local, he's young and he can only get better. If we don't sign him, I really might not even give the new lot a try and jump ship to Elrich FC.

[Premy]

Probably not fair to include:
Jeremy Brockie
Jeronimo Neumann
Marcos Flores
Michael Bridges
Sung-Hwan Byun

As they were known to the league already.

Surely you would have Haliti and Covney in that list also.

[pv4]

Surely you would have Haliti and Covney in that list also.

Football didn't exist before John Aloisi's penalty m8

[q-money]

cowburn's debut against WS was outstanding, if they don't give him a contract it will be a legit disc race

[Grimario]

Why is Haliti in the visa player discussion? Surely he was an Australian citizen long before we had him here? He played for the Olyroos way back, ffs.

[Jeterpool]

Why is Haliti in the visa player discussion? Surely he was an Australian citizen long before we had him here? He played for the Olyroos way back, ffs.

Wiki had him down in Season 1 and 2 as being an Albanian rep. Happy to be corrected if anyone can shed some light

[Beeen]

Tomislav misura was a gun

[Hunter403]

What about Maclaren? Thoughts?
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/06/29/clubs-scramble-maclaren-signature

[Tommyjet]

What about Maclaren? Thoughts?
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/06/29/clubs-scramble-maclaren-signature
Eye for goal, would be a great signing

[Mark325]

I'd rather him then a Zamora or Scott Mcdonald who was name dropped on the news as a potential option

[Retro Jet]

What about Maclaren? Thoughts?
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/06/29/clubs-scramble-maclaren-signature

Shit sleeve tats....move on.

[The Postman]

The Jets have passed on Bobby Z.

[WolfMan]

The Jets have passed on Bobby Z.

Cheers mate

[leftrightout]

What about Maclaren? Thoughts?
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/06/29/clubs-scramble-maclaren-signature

Yep would take him, plenty of speed, eye for goal and i reckon he looks like he about to really start to play to his potential.
Like the article says though, no doubt plenty of other clubs will see the same thing so why would he come here

[Jeterpool]

I'd take MacLaren in a heartbeat.

[leftrightout]

I'd take MacLaren in a heartbeat.

He will end up at Sydney replacing Ibini

[Tommyjet]

He will end up at Sydney replacing Ibini

He'll choose the team that sees him as a striker. He's not a winger.

[Grimario]

He will end up at Sydney replacing Ibini

Didn't the article say "every club except Sydney has tabled an offer" or something?

Regardless, as lro says, he seems himself as a striker, not a wide man.

[plague]

He will end up at Sydney replacing Ibini

A 3 yr old Labrador can replace Ibini.

[Jeterpool]

I reckon we're in with a chance of this. We've got Brennan, Pav and Lundy as strikers but he'd be seen above these guys for sure.

[Grimario]

Of all of those, surely only Pav is considered a "striker"? Lundy is more of a wide player (albeit cutting in and playing narrow) and that seems to be what Brennan was doing (plus playing everywhere) as well.

[Jeterpool]

Of all of those, surely only Pav is considered a "striker"? Lundy is more of a wide player (albeit cutting in and playing narrow) and that seems to be what Brennan was doing (plus playing everywhere) as well.

Not seen enough of Lundy to comment on that but I thought he was always touted as a striker.

Regardless, MacLaren would be ahead of them all.

[Grimario]

Not seen enough of Lundy to comment on that but I thought he was always touted as a striker.

Regardless, MacLaren would be ahead of them all.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuL6ddSOOt8

(There's never a bad reason to post a clip from The Wire)

According to soccer_joel, super scout, Lundy is a left winger/inside forward. I assume the good Member (if he isn't also on global ignore) or anyone else that sees a lot of the youth can confirm?

[Grimario]

I assume the good Member (if he isn't also on global ignore) or anyone else that sees a lot of the youth can confirm?

Good ol' Membah, keeping tabs on us whilst banned/ignored/whatever is going on (religion thread?)

M4KS ‏@MEMBER4KS 24s24 seconds ago
@_Grimario @jeterpool Re Lundy on the foz.
He is a winger. Either side of the park.
He is not a striker at all. Maybe if desperate but no

[Jeterpool]

Good ol' Membah, keeping tabs on us whilst banned/ignored/whatever is going on (religion thread?)

M4KS ‏@MEMBER4KS 24s24 seconds ago
@_Grimario @jeterpool Re Lundy on the foz.
He is a winger. Either side of the park.
He is not a striker at all. Maybe if desperate but no

OK, there we go. So Pav it is then.

Go get Maclaren. We will be against Melbourne City I reckon because articles say he is originally from Melbour and with space created by Josh Kennedy there is a position up against Corey Gamiero and David Williams

[Grimario]

OK, there we go. So Pav it is then.

Go get Maclaren. We will be against Melbourne City I reckon because articles say he is originally from Melbour and with space created by Josh Kennedy there is a position up against Corey Gamiero and David Williams

Adelaide too. One will get Juric, one will get Maclaren.







We will get Simon.

[Jeterpool]

Adelaide too. One will get Juric, one will get Maclaren.







We will get Simon.

Throw Ruka in there too.

[Grimario]

Throw Ruka in there too.

Wide though, isn't he... not through the middle?

[Jeterpool]

Wide though, isn't he... not through the middle?

He played centrally while at Perth I thought? I'm just trying to get Matt Simon's name further and further down the list.

[Tommyjet]

Wide though, isn't he... not through the middle?

Correct

[plague]

Throw Ruka in there too.

No.

[plague]

Wot?
The Member is legit hovering over the Foz and screaming on the twitters?
He's a dead set lunatic.


Yo Member, waddup?

[plague]

Serious though Member have a ****ing spell.
Get some fresh air. It will do you wonders.

[Jeterpool]

No.

Oh I agree - I don't rate him at all. But I rate him more than Matt Simon.

[JetRift]

Maclaren striker with Rukavytsya and Dugandzic on the wings. A man can dream.

[Tommyjet]

A signing a day for the next few days please.

[Grimario]

Maclaren striker with Rukavytsya and Dugandzic on the wings. A man can dream.

And Alivodic and Carney...?

[The Postman]

And Alivodic and Carney...?

Imagine if we could change their squad position to the Marquees and the FFA would still foot the bill. It would open up about 400k to sign the rest of the squad.

[pv4]

Dugandzic

Pray that he does not come anywhere near us.

[Bon]

It's like we are playing the import pokies and betting 20c at a time instead of TCF $5 hits like Victory/Shitney?

HAHAH Yes!!! TCF.. Well in, Frodo.. :brrr:

[Grimario]

Pray that he does not come anywhere near us.

Would stop him scoring against us.

Maybe.

[Tommyjet]

Would stop him scoring against us.

Maybe.

He's an improvement on virgili, not much tho

[Grimario]

He's an improvement on virgili, not much tho

3 years ago, I would have taken him over most other wingers in the league purely from a prospect perspective. Then he broke his foot or whatever it was and he has been absolutely shite ever since.

[Jeterpool]

Anyone else think Boogaard is getting lined up as the skipper for next year? He's the only one I see doing media from the playing group.

[Grimario]

Anyone else think Boogaard is getting lined up as the skipper for next year? He's the only one I see doing media from the playing group.

Who else has leadership qualities? I remember thinking years ago that Kanta would one day step up to be a real leader but that's never really happened. The rest are all blow ins, young or visa players. The only other senior player is Carney and he doesn't really strike me as a leader. Boogaard would be ideal as captain, especially if he plans on playing the rest of his career in his hometown. Certainly a better pick than Mullen.

[Jeterpool]

Who else has leadership qualities? I remember thinking years ago that Kanta would one day step up to be a real leader but that's never really happened. The rest are all blow ins, young or visa players. The only other senior player is Carney and he doesn't really strike me as a leader. Boogaard would be ideal as captain, especially if he plans on playing the rest of his career in his hometown. Certainly a better pick than Mullen.

Wasn't questioning it, just making an observation. I agree he is the likely pick from the playing group at the moment.

[plague]

Filthy gypo.
This club is a dead set embarrassment.
Middleby out.

[pv4]

This isn't an attempt at a windup or I-told-you-so but who were the Boogard haters on this forum? I know whenever I've brought him up in the past there's been some pretty negative responses about him.

If you are/were a hater, how would you feel about him being given the captaincy?

[Grimario]

Filthy gypo.
This club is a dead set embarrassment.
Middleby out.

Just imagine if we had signed him straight from his Breakers then Weston days? He could be the life long club hero we all worship (maybe as Griffs #1 disciple) instead of the guy some people remember scoring his first ever goal against us while playing for the scum.

[q-money]

i would hand in the members membership for him

[plague]

This isn't an attempt at a windup or I-told-you-so but who were the Boogard haters on this forum? I know whenever I've brought him up in the past there's been some pretty negative responses about him.

If you are/were a hater, how would you feel about him being given the captaincy?

dear pv4:
please see my last post.


Happy for you though that you have another gypo to make you feel more comfortable on game day.
good for you.

[JetRift]

Looks like our FFA cup line-up will look something like this

Birraz
Cowburn Boogaard Mullen Carney
Kanta
Barresi Cooper
Alivodic Pavicevic Ki-Je

Not a horrible line-up in the swing of things but seeing as Kanta is our only defensive midfielder I strongly recommend that we make that top priority in our recruitment.

[lil_masi]

Looks like our FFA cup line-up will look something like this

Birraz
Cowburn Boogaard Mullen Carney
Kanta
Barresi Cooper
Alivodic Pavicevic Ki-Je

Not a horrible line-up in the swing of things but seeing as Kanta is our only defensive midfielder I strongly recommend that we make that top priority in our recruitment.

Kanta has already been ruled out of the ffa cup. Still recovering from groin surgery. Ki-ji will be LB, carney LW

[Grimario]

Didn't think we had signed Cowburn? Or can you play trialists in the Cup?

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Didn't think we had signed Cowburn? Or can you play trialists in the Cup?

Yeah, you can play trialists. Remember reading the gypos are gonna have to do it.

[hawk]

This isn't an attempt at a windup or I-told-you-so but who were the Boogard haters on this forum? I know whenever I've brought him up in the past there's been some pretty negative responses about him.

I would hope everyone despised him.

But he who don's the jets badge and kicks the **** sydney & gypos will be adored.

[Tommyjet]

Now the new gaffa is back in town we should expect some signings next week.
Herald today murphy saying we should have enough cap space to present a decent contract to maclaren. Talks have started apparently.

Also wouldn't be surprised if we pick up cam Watson from Adelaide. Decent cm IMO

[The Postman]

Looks like our FFA cup line-up will look something like this

Birraz
Cowburn Boogaard Mullen Carney
Kanta
Barresi Cooper
Alivodic Pavicevic Ki-Je

Not a horrible line-up in the swing of things but seeing as Kanta is our only defensive midfielder I strongly recommend that we make that top priority in our recruitment.

Marlow in there somewhere for Kanta, or Brennan

[Jetmaster]

Looks like our FFA cup line-up will look something like this

Birraz
Cowburn Boogaard Mullen Carney
Kanta
Barresi Cooper
Alivodic Pavicevic Ki-Je

Not a horrible line-up in the swing of things but seeing as Kanta is our only defensive midfielder I strongly recommend that we make that top priority in our recruitment.

Alot can change in 5 weeks.

[tomo]

Didn't think we had signed Cowburn? Or can you play trialists in the Cup?

Isnt he still on a youth contract?

[stopper2]

Isnt he still on a youth contract?

Yes Cowburn is still on a Youth contract.

Seriously by this time next week I would be expecting a couple new signings to have been announced at the very least!

[Premy]

We signed Griff yet?

[joel31]

We signed Griff yet?

No
Miller out
Murphy out
JP out

[Tommyjet]

https://twitter.com/marcothejourno/status/617626242238418944

There goes that option

[Thomas477]

Eh, not too upset tbh.

[Grimario]

Eh, not too upset tbh.

One step closer to us signing Simon...

[Thomas477]

One step closer to us signing Simon...

Surely Kale is in front of Simon?

[Jeterpool]

https://twitter.com/marcothejourno/status/617626242238418944

There goes that option

Damn. I thought we could have done to him what we did with Taggart.

[lil_masi]

I love joel griffo as much as anyone but if we had to sign either joel or ryan who would you choose?
Joel will be 36 coming off a knee recon. Would play central with the players we already have.
Or ryan 34 and scored 15 in about 30 games in malaysia. Prob battle with Carney for LW. Id go ryan.
As i said would be a good LW backup. Both on little coin. Give us more $$ for quality signings.

[Mark325]

I love joel griffo as much as anyone but if we had to sign either joel or ryan who would you choose?
Joel will be 36 coming off a knee recon. Would play central with the players we already have.
Or ryan 34 and scored 15 in about 30 games in malaysia. Prob battle with Carney for LW. Id go ryan.
As i said would be a good LW backup. Both on little coin. Give us more $$ for quality signings.

For me, the big thing with signing those two is a mentality. Both love Newcastle and both I believe have come out saying its Newy or nothing. Having two boys with that mentality to teach the other guys we sign and the guys we have to appreciate the shirt and the fans is a huge positive
Both are versatile up front and have also come out saying they'd play for little coin which is another positive considering we need players and don't have a whole lotta coin
Who's more useful, Ryan's been more active which is a benefit and isn't coming off knee surgery, so probably him. But, we never saw how well Joel really could go last season due to being played in right mid instead of a wing or striker. Ryan's the best signing but both should be signed

[Grimario]

Joel has said he will play for free, ffs. Obviously he can't because the CBA has a minimum salary but sign him up for that and be done with it.

[Tommyjet]

I love joel griffo as much as anyone but if we had to sign either joel or ryan who would you choose?
Joel will be 36 coming off a knee recon. Would play central with the players we already have.
Or ryan 34 and scored 15 in about 30 games in malaysia. Prob battle with Carney for LW. Id go ryan.
As i said would be a good LW backup. Both on little coin. Give us more $$ for quality signings.

Honestly, I love Joel f$&king Griffiths and the passion he has shown for this club. To a lesser extent I respect Ryan griff as an esteemed former player. Seriously it's time to move on. We can't keep going around in circles. A squad needs to be built for the next few years, not just year to year contracts for past their best players.
By all means bring Joel griff in in January if he has recovered form his acl injury and we badly need an experienced striker but I would hope at this stage we are aiming higher in the striker department.

[snake]

sign griffo on marquee. spend the rest of the cap on ryan. 5 yr contracts all around

[lil_masi]

Honestly, I love Joel f$&king Griffiths and the passion he has shown for this club. To a lesser extent I respect Ryan griff as an esteemed former player. Seriously it's time to move on. We can't keep going around in circles. A squad needs to be built for the next few years, not just year to year contracts for past their best players.
By all means bring Joel griff in in January if he has recovered form his acl injury and we badly need an experienced striker but I would hope at this stage we are aiming higher in the striker department.

I agree too it is time to move on, but if we cant get anyone better for similar $$ id take ryan.
The question was IF we had to chose from the two

[Pico]

Joel has said he will play for free, ffs. Obviously he can't because the CBA has a minimum salary but sign him up for that and be done with it.

Wouldn't be that CBA that has now ran out as of 30th June, clearly this is Griff's work so he can return for free, hail Griff!

[sammydog]

So the Herald is saying we have 9 spots and $800,000 to spend.

Unless we manage to entice some quality on loan, the salary cap leaves us with not a lot to play with. I was hoping that the bulk of the starting 11 would come from the new signings, but it seems there is sweet FA space to move in the cap to bring in a 4-5 solid players. Will be interesting to see how miller manages this, but it really looks like we need to use the both Marquee spots, but FFA say they aren't going to do that.

[The Postman]

9? Thought it was 10 unless Lundy has been upgraded or Cowbie resigned.

1. Biraz
2. BK
3. Boogs
4. Mullen
5. Marlow
6. Leaky
7. Carney
8. Kanta
9. Barresi
10. Cooper
11. Enver
12. Rad Pav
13. Brennan

[pv4]

Barresi and Lundy were both contracted until the end of the 15/16 season on full time NYL contracts. So if they were offered the same contracts, they SHOULD be still on those contracts.

And the squad size limit is 26, if you use all 3 NYL contracts.

Lundy I'm not sure if he has re-signed.

Potentially because the NYL contracts are 2 year deals, and our former contracts were considered null&void, maybe we couldn't re-sign Barresi and Lundy under NYL contracts?

Anyway, we currently have 13 contracted players, or 14 if Lundy is back on board. We still have 12 or 13 spots available, if we use all 3 of our NYL contracts.

[plague]

I love joel griffo as much as anyone but if we had to sign either joel or ryan who would you choose?

Well clearly you don't love Joel as much as anyone due to the fact you even posed this question.

But I'll humour you anyway.

Joel (the one true Griff):
Born in Newcastle.
Played his entire career in Newcastle.
Averaged exactly 1 goal per game during his career.
Scored the winner in the Grand Final.


Ryan:
Born in Wyong.
Is not actually related to Joel. He is adopted (real name Ryan Berkowitz).
Walked out on our club.
Promotes shitty t-shirts.
Never scored for Jets.
Photographed sitting next to Middleby at a game.


Yeah, there's your answer cuz.

[GazFish35]

Plague I junk you're getting Ryan confused with Adam

[plague]

Plague I junk you're getting Ryan confused with Adam
Nope.
**** Ryan Berkowitz.

[cobra23]

Nope.
**** Ryan Berkowitz.

Agree,

Fu_k ryan, he walked out twice and overrated

Joel = Newcastle

[The Dunster]

If it's true the Jets have $800k left for nine signings they might as well start engraving the wooden spoon now.

Nothing changes, club is still shit, and the fans are once again being taken for a ride by the FFA.

[Grimario]

If it's true the Jets have $800k left for nine signings they might as well start engraving the wooden spoon now.

Nothings changes, club is still shit, and the fans are once again being taken for a ride by the FFA.

Why? Assuming Cowburn signs...

Birraz
Cowburn Boogaard Mullen Ki-Je
??? Kanta
Cooper
Alivodic ??? Carney

That's a pretty decent framework for a starting side, I think the strongest backline we have had in years. Good players on either wing, excellent overlapping from the fullbacks and then Griff/Griff/Brennan/Pav in the middle. Just need another decent midfielder (Rostyn Griffiths?) alongside Kanta/Cooper and then the rest of the squad should be filled with young up and comers. Let's sign the next Taggart and Brillante, ffs and spin it for a profit in 3 years time.

[Jeterpool]

I expect that a few of the new signings will be signed on 1 year contracts. We have some assumed big-hitters in Carney, Kantarovski and Birrighiti coming off contract next year and unless they are contributing as compared to their wage I would see them getting moved on.

I think we could also see some players who previously played return, as has been mooted. I wonder what Celeski has been doing with himself since he was released? I'd be using the bulk of the money in midfield and striker and trying to sign fringe players for the rest because I think if we try to average the money out across the positions we will get mediocrity but throwing more at some and getting fillers for the rest can at least boost our starting XI.

[matty]

I would not be suprised one bit if we got one or 2 loan deals from england. Saying miller has cut all ties with fulham after donkeys years there wouldnt be true. My guess is he still tied up with the hob knobs and essentially in a good place to get us loans.

[tomo]

I would not be suprised one bit if we got one or 2 loan deals from england. Saying miller has cut all ties with fulham after donkeys years there wouldnt be true. My guess is he still tied up with the hob knobs and essentially in a good place to get us loans.

In his interview on KOFM yesterday, Miller said he has a couple of good mates coming to the A-League which are yet to be confirmed. I immediately thought it could well be coming to the Jets and possibly on loans... I could be reading too much into it though

[Pico]

In millers nbn interview he specifically talked about loans, to me its the only way we will be able to strengthen enough without resorting to signing mediocrity across the board.
Any starting team that looks to rely on kanta in the mids is asking for trouble, has been half the player he used to be at the best of times, maybe miller can get him back, but that's a big if.

[The Postman]

Loan Deals would seem to go against Miller's talk of building for the next 2 seasons.

[sammydog]

Given the cap restrictions, I don't think he is going to have a choice this season. He will have to look to loans until some of the on contract players come off contract, unless we sign a few people on minimum wage.

[De-Champ]

Given the cap restrictions, I don't think he is going to have a choice this season. He will have to look to loans until some of the on contract players come off contract, unless we sign a few people on minimum wage.

That is the same every year though.

[matty]

442 reporting we have eyes on virgilli and madaschi. Also keen on nabbout and mate duganzic

[leftrightout]

Also keen on nabbout

Please dont be true!

[Grimario]

That is the same every year though.

It's the same every year since we have had muppets running the place for a while. There's no reason I can fathom why some of the players we have should be pushing close to $200k.

[tomo]

So with this new loyalty deal. Why cant we put Kanta and BK under that category and free up $250k??

[Grimario]

So with this new loyalty deal. Why cant we put Kanta and BK under that category and free up $250k??

You would hope so.

[tomo]

You would hope so.

You look at teams like Victory and Syd and the quality of players they have across the park, and the fact theyre still in the hunt for the better players in the league, it really makes me wonder how they can fit everyone under the cap. So why have we managed to dig ourselves such a big hole and have nothing left in the kitty for 5-6 decent players? I understand theyre utilising all the marquee spots available, which frees up room, but im still sceptical about theyre cap sizes

The fact that victory are chasing holland as theyre marquee too really disappoints me... The FFA want this club to work but wont help us attract players

[lil_masi]

You look at teams like Victory and Syd and the quality of players they have across the park, and the fact theyre still in the hunt for the better players in the league, it really makes me wonder how they can fit everyone under the cap. So why have we managed to dig ourselves such a big hole and have nothing left in the kitty for 5-6 decent players? I understand theyre utilising all the marquee spots available, which frees up room, but im still sceptical about theyre cap sizes

The fact that victory are chasing holland as theyre marquee too really disappoints me... The FFA want this club to work but wont help us attract players

Remember there is still 3rd party payments outside of the cap as well. They're prob maxing out their 3rd party payments.

[Grimario]

You look at teams like Victory and Syd and the quality of players they have across the park, and the fact theyre still in the hunt for the better players in the league, it really makes me wonder how they can fit everyone under the cap. So why have we managed to dig ourselves such a big hole and have nothing left in the kitty for 5-6 decent players? I understand theyre utilising all the marquee spots available, which frees up room, but im still sceptical about theyre cap sizes

The fact that victory are chasing holland as theyre marquee too really disappoints me... The FFA want this club to work but wont help us attract players

It could also be they don't spend nearly $200k on shit like BK or BK. They fill their squads with a top quality first XI and the rest with young up and comers who aren't proven enough to demand big coin.

*edit* Not that I think either of them are shit just not worth the huge coin they are reported to be on.

[lil_masi]

+1

[Grimario]

Also, do we have one of our younger players off under Junior Marquee wages?

[tomo]

Also, do we have one of our younger players off under Junior Marquee wages?

Is cowburn eligible for that?

[Grimario]

Is cowburn eligible for that?

Isn't it anyone U23? Cowburn, Lundy, Pav, Cooper should all be eligible.

I guess the problem is that we are FFA funded and they aren't putting money outside the cap... so I assume that the Junior marquee is club funded, not part of TV deal salary cap.

[pv4]

I'd imagine junior marquee needs to have a certain level of recent national team representation and other criteria. I doubt any of our guys qualify.

Also iirc it's not their entire wage that is outside the cap, or there's something weird about the setup.

[Grimario]

I'd imagine junior marquee needs to have a certain level of recent national team representation and other criteria. I doubt any of our guys qualify.

Also iirc it's not their entire wage that is outside the cap, or there's something weird about the setup.

150k outside the cap from last time I recall this discussion. And Thwaite is a marquee for Perth, there can surely be no limit on who or what qualifies as a marquee these days.

*edit*

Though that may have been replaced with the 150k for up to 3 U23 NYL players or whatever the other rule is. Who knows with the FFA/PFA shenanigans.

[tomo]

150k outside the cap from last time I recall this discussion. And Thwaite is a marquee for Perth, there can surely be no limit on who or what qualifies as a marquee these days.

*edit*

Though that may have been replaced with the 150k for up to 3 U23 NYL players or whatever the other rule is. Who knows with the FFA/PFA shenanigans.

So how does the 3rd party funding work. Can we get a sponsor as such to foot the bill for someone like cowburn outside of the cap?

[pv4]

150k outside the cap from last time I recall this discussion. And Thwaite is a marquee for Perth, there can surely be no limit on who or what qualifies as a marquee these days.

*edit*

Though that may have been replaced with the 150k for up to 3 U23 NYL players or whatever the other rule is. Who knows with the FFA/PFA shenanigans.

Thwaite has represented the socceroos and was the captain and arguably best performing Perth player for years. I have zero issues with him being Australian Marquee.

[Grimario]

Thwaite has represented the socceroos and was the captain and arguably best performing Perth player for years. I have zero issues with him being Australian Marquee.

Mitch Cooper has represented the Aus U20 team, I have no issues with him being Junior Marquee.

Also, my point is that he isn't what the entire marquee concept was all about... he's not a big name that will get people through the gates. Just **** it off and replace it with a brand new "One Visa and one Australian player outside the cap" clause instead of trying to pretend they are marquee players.

[pv4]

The Australian marquee is intended to entice Socceroos to return to Australia, as well as keep them here amongst all the Asian Oil Leagues throwing dollars at them.

Something that very possibly could have happened to Thwaite.

The way Robbie Middleby used to talk, the junior marquee has to be a local.

[stopper2]

Today is Thursday, nearly another week gone and still no new signings.
All the positivity and progress off the field of the past months really amounts to nothing when we still only have 14 players on our books!

[Blackmac79]

Want it done right away.

But then I want to whinge when this players they signed without taking time to evaluate options don't work out.

[stopper2]

Want it done right away.

But then I want to whinge when this players they signed without taking time to evaluate options don't work out.

I'm only asking for one or two new signings to be announced, that's not a too unreasonable expectation at this stage.
In fairness though, if Miller is in fact having the final say on new signings I can understand that he has only been back a few days and will have only assessed the curent squad and areas where we need to strengthen.

[howardyou]

I'm only asking for one or two new signings to be announced, that's not a too unreasonable expectation at this stage.
In fairness though, if Miller is in fact having the final say on new signings I can understand that he has only been back a few days and will have only assessed the curent squad and areas where we need to strengthen.

I want him to take his time and get it right. Something that we haven't done in the past.
I don't really give a fig about the FFA cup. Lets sort out our squad, and make sure that we are right for the season proper.

[pv4]

I want better players at training so our current guys are given incentive to try harder.

Also just more numbers at training in general, make it more competitive and fun to be apart of.

[ToddG NBUnited]

Sign Griff and Cowburn and then go from there.

[Beeen]

sign richo porta

[Premy]

sign richo porta
My man, just look at the last Uruguayan we had.
Corbo :wub:

[The Dunster]

I want better players at training so our current guys are given incentive to try harder.

Also just more numbers at training in general, make it more competitive and fun to be apart of.

If playing for Newcastle is not enough incentive then these khunts should be shown the door.
Some people train well others don't - and it's very difficult to rate some one on their training performance alone. Look at Hoffman, as far as GVE was concerned he must have been equivalent to Lionel Messi at Training.
Others are probably a completely different story.

[white city]

accepted, that time is needed in assessing the squad. However if we don't see any signings by end of next week then i think many questions need to be raised in what is FFA doing in managing the club??. I have a slight feeling that we may want to sign players but it is being rejected by the FFA as they are looking to sell the ownership before they pour anymore money into the club.?

Let's just hope the coaching staff can implement a structure that can keep us competitive. This year that is best outcome for us, we were never going to be able to challenge or be finals contenders in these first 2 years. if we do (awesome news) it will be an outstanding feat by the coaching staff.

my only concern really is i think something is going on behind the scenes restricting us from signing any players as of yet!

[Jeterpool]

accepted, that time is needed in assessing the squad. However if we don't see any signings by end of next week then i think many questions need to be raised in what is FFA doing in managing the club??. I have a slight feeling that we may want to sign players but it is being rejected by the FFA as they are looking to sell the ownership before they pour anymore money into the club.?

Let's just hope the coaching staff can implement a structure that can keep us competitive. This year that is best outcome for us, we were never going to be able to challenge or be finals contenders in these first 2 years. if we do (awesome news) it will be an outstanding feat by the coaching staff.

my only concern really is i think something is going on behind the scenes restricting us from signing any players as of yet!

The FFA can't afford for us to fail because they need to sell their product. While they may not go overboard, they certainly won't act in a way to decrease the clubs value any further.

[Grimario]

The FFA can't afford for us to fail because they need to sell their product. While they may not go overboard, they certainly won't act in a way to decrease the clubs value any further.

You reckon? Wolves showed pretty clear intent to have an A-League club... if they can't sort shit out in Newcastle, why wouldn't the FFA just **** us off?

[Jeterpool]

You reckon? Wolves showed pretty clear intent to have an A-League club... if they can't sort shit out in Newcastle, why wouldn't the FFA just **** us off?

I took this stance prior to Woolongong seriously expressing a desire to join the league. As it stands, they can't afford to ditch us because they need 10 teams in a comp.

[white city]

Damien De Bohun is another one of those tells you what you want to hear and sounds good.

im just getting slightly nervous with the fact that we only have 13 players and there has been no real concrete links to additional players. Every coach would love to have a full squad to work with in pre-season especially for a club the FFA have so strongly indicated they need to succeed. Success will be extremely difficult when the coaching staff only has 4 weeks to inplement structures with full squad.

also what has Pascoe done since he was resigned on an interim basis?

[Jetmaster]

You reckon? Wolves showed pretty clear intent to have an A-League club... if they can't sort shit out in Newcastle, why wouldn't the FFA just **** us off?

Because Wollongong (like Canberra and Central Coast) at its peak can never match Newcastle at its peak, it doesn't have the same market capability. A Wollongong team in the bottom three after a few years will just be another Mariners, who have only scraped by due to on field success. FFA know deep down that a well managed Newcastle team should be the third or fourth biggest club in the country.

Remember we have had 10,000 despite not making the finals for 5 years - even the Smurfs would struggle to get that.

[RAM]

Because Wollongong (like Canberra and Central Coast) at its peak can never match Newcastle at its peak, it doesn't have the same market capability. A Wollongong team in the bottom three after a few years will just be another Mariners, who have only scraped by due to on field success. FFA know deep down that a well managed Newcastle team should be the third or fourth biggest club in the country.

Remember we have had 10,000 despite not making the finals for 5 years - even the Smurfs would struggle to get that.

well said

[Tommyjet]

Seriously though................where are some f$&king signings. I'm getting that desperate I'd almost celebrate any signing, good or bad. Maybe that's the effect they trying for.

[The Dunster]

The only way any player would come to the Newcastle Jets would be if they are offered a lot more [probably double] than the competition is asking or if they cannot get a run anywhere else.
Given the club has no money means the best they can do is sign players no other team is interested in.
It's possible for one or two unwanted players to prove everyone wrong but when you need ten or so like the Jets do we are really clutching at straws.

If the club can get a team together and make it though the season that would be a massive achievement.
To think the club can actually find quality players or even be competitive is a pipedream

[WolfMan]

As to the notion that the FFA doesn't want to pour more money into the Jets than what is absolutely necessary - you're right. That's what the salary cap is for, and completely absorbed by the monthly grants every club gets.

We already knew a marquee was off the table unless and until new ownership is in place and decides to pump money into said cause/s.

[Tommyjet]

The only way any player would come to the Newcastle Jets would be if they are offered a lot more [probably double] than the competition is asking or if they cannot get a run anywhere else.
Given the club has no money means the best they can do is sign players no other team is interested in.
It's possible for one or two unwanted players to prove everyone wrong but when you need ten or so like the Jets do we are really clutching at straws.

If the club can get a team together and make it though the season that would be a massive achievement.
To think the club can actually find quality players or even be competitive is a pipedream
I expect we'll sign atleast 3 recycled players like mate dugandzic who shouldn't be asking for too much. I also expect us to tap into a few of the young Aussies playing overseas that have recently been released such as giancarlo gallifuoco. Then whatever is left spend on 2 or 3 quality players.

[The Camel]

I expect we'll sign atleast 3 recycled players like mate dugandzic who shouldn't be asking for too much. I also expect us to tap into a few of the young Aussies playing overseas that have recently been released such as giancarlo gallifuoco. Then whatever is left spend on 2 or 3 quality players.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get an Aussie loan signing or two from Fulham like Cam Burgess or Ryan Williams

[Tommyjet]

I wouldn't be surprised if we get an Aussie loan signing or two from Fulham like Cam Burgess or Ryan Williams

Would suit some of our needs

[Bremsstrahlung]

Any local NPL players that could make up some numbers and do a job?
Wouldn't be a bad option if we can't find quality anywhere else and have a few spots to fill.

Yes, we should be aiming much higher, but we are getting pretty close now and we are struggling to fill the bench.

[The Postman]

1. Mark Birighitti - 15/16
2. Nigel Boogaard - 17/18
5. Ben Kantarovski - 15/16
7. Enver Alivodic - 15/16
10. Andy Brennan - 16/17
11. Radan Pavicevic - 16/17
13. Themba Muata-Marlow 16/17
15. Josh Baressi - 15/16
19. Mitch Cooper - 16/17
20. Ben Kennedy - 16/17
21. Daniel Mullen - 16/17
22. Lee Ki-Je - 16/17
23. David Carney - 15/16
25. Brandon Lundy - 15/16

Would be confident if we had 2 quality Midfielders and 15 Goal a Season Striker. A lot of youth in the squad though, gives Miller the chance to build. Can't understand the negativity towards him from some. There has only been positives since FFA took over.

[Tommyjet]

1. Mark Birighitti - 15/16
2. Nigel Boogaard - 17/18
5. Ben Kantarovski - 15/16
7. Enver Alivodic - 15/16
10. Andy Brennan - 16/17
11. Radan Pavicevic - 16/17
13. Themba Muata-Marlow 16/17
15. Josh Baressi - 15/16
19. Mitch Cooper - 16/17
20. Ben Kennedy - 16/17
21. Daniel Mullen - 16/17
22. Lee Ki-Je - 16/17
23. David Carney - 15/16
25. Brandon Lundy - 15/16

Would be confident if we had 2 quality Midfielders and 15 Goal a Season Striker. A lot of youth in the squad though, gives Miller the chance to build. Can't understand the negativity towards him from some. There has only been positives since FFA took over.
I agree, I just think atleast one of those quality midfielders or striker could of been signed and presented by now.

[Premy]

Hugo Rodallega is on the look out for a new Club, Miller has worked with him before, his only 29. It might take Marque type money to get him out here but come on FFA show us how "committed" you are to the Hunter region.

I don't buy this hole the FFA won't spend extra money on us as that would be extra cost for the new owners crap, Wanderers got Shinji and I could be wrong but if memory serves me correctly when they had Adelaide they were in discussions with Flores before he went to Melbourne. So I'm not buying this new owners might not want a marque bs, if FFA are serious about being "committed" to the Hunter then show us the money.

***insert Jerry Maguire meme***

[Tommyjet]

Hugo Rodallega is on the look out for a new Club, Miller has worked with him before, his only 29. It might take Marque type money to get him out here but come on FFA show us how "committed" you are to the Hunter region.

I don't buy this hole the FFA won't spend extra money on us as that would be extra cost for the new owners crap, Wanderers got Shinji and I could be wrong but if memory serves me correctly when they had Adelaide they were in discussions with Flores before he went to Melbourne. So I'm not buying this new owners might not want a marque bs, if FFA are serious about being "committed" to the Hunter then show us the money.

***insert Jerry Maguire meme***
I don't think they have ruled a marquee out yet definitively. I think it would depend on the player and how convincing murphy would be at selling the idea.
Also depend on the new owners they hope to have in charge by season start

[Jeterpool]

Hugo Rodallega is on the look out for a new Club, Miller has worked with him before, his only 29. It might take Marque type money to get him out here but come on FFA show us how "committed" you are to the Hunter region.

I don't buy this hole the FFA won't spend extra money on us as that would be extra cost for the new owners crap, Wanderers got Shinji and I could be wrong but if memory serves me correctly when they had Adelaide they were in discussions with Flores before he went to Melbourne. So I'm not buying this new owners might not want a marque bs, if FFA are serious about being "committed" to the Hunter then show us the money.

***insert Jerry Maguire meme***

I think he could do the business

[The Dunster]

Hugo Rodallega would own A league defenders.

I don't think the Jets have a hope in hell of signing him but if they did I'd be putting money on him for the golden boot.

[Jeterpool]

Hugo Rodallega would own A league defenders.

I don't think the Jets have a hope in hell of signing him but if they did I'd be putting money on him for the golden boot.

Hold your money until you see the midfield behind him

[Tommyjet]

I can't believe how cold it is on player signing rumours. Usually jimmy Gardiner has some idea and a few posters on here sometimes have the inside word. I used to hear a bit from a couple of sources up until the start of last season but certainly nothing now.

[The Postman]

Word is that Miller wants to bring in 1/2 foreign players, unlikely to be Marquee though. How that fits with the Cap, I have no idea.

At least the Co-Major sponsor should be announced this week or next, nice to see things coming together off the field for a change, even if player recruitment is quiet.

[GazFish35]

1/2 a foreigner is better than none at all.

Would only cost 1/2 as much too.

[Retro Jet]

I can't believe how cold it is on player signing rumours. Usually jimmy Gardiner has some idea and a few posters on here sometimes have the inside word. I used to hear a bit from a couple of sources up until the start of last season but certainly nothing now.

If the foti68 well is dry too...start to worry!
foti? Any news?

[plague]

1/2 a foreigner is better than none at all.

Would only cost 1/2 as much too.

Peter Dinklage?

[Couscous]

I can't believe how cold it is on player signing rumours.

Hit up young Bob Dillon on Twitter. He knows what happens in this town.

[Jetmaster]

Hit up young Bob Dillon on Twitter. He knows what happens in this town.

Only cos he reads it on here first....

[Couscous]

Jetmaster, your reputation is as bad as mine. What happened?

[Tommyjet]

Hit up young Bob Dillon on Twitter. He knows what happens in this town.

He's busy arguing with morons about the knoughts.

I suppose the longer it takes you'd hope the better due diligence is being done.

[hawk]

Hit up young Bob Dillon on Twitter. He knows what happens in this town.

Only knows about the wife beaters barely nothin in Aleague

(TJ too quick)