SQUAD FOR 2015/16 SEASON - no Griff, no party

[evolution]

Doesn't any one know much about this New Zealand international we are trialling???

According to the ever reliable Soccer Stoppage Time that player is Ryan De Vries

[tomo]

Doesn't any one know much about this New Zealand international we are trialling???

Leo Bertos is TRAINING with the jets, not TRIALLING. He has no intention of gaining a contract. Just getting some training under his belt before he heads overseas to the IPL

[Grimario]

According to the ever reliable Soccer Stoppage Time that player is Ryan De Vries

Seems like a cheap option... 23, played his entire career (that I can see) in the ASB Premiership. South African born, NZ naturalised, capped in the friendly against South Korea a few months back.

Hope he is amazing.

[ToddG NBUnited]

Seems like a cheap option... 23, played his entire career (that I can see) in the ASB Premiership. South African born, NZ naturalised, capped in the friendly against South Korea a few months back.

Hope he is amazing.

Position?

[Grimario]

Position?

Listed as a forward. Scored 25 in 51 with Waitakere United but only 7 in 29 with Auckland City. He also plays for Bentleigh Greens, scored in their FFA Cup campaign last year, 21 goals in 45 games.

SST's tweet say he is a wide forward though... so more cover for the flanks, maybe? Impressive goal scoring record for a wide player if true.

[Cyc10n]

Leo Bertos is TRAINING with the jets, not TRIALLING. He has no intention of gaining a contract. Just getting some training under his belt before he heads overseas to the IPL

I know who LEO is and his not who I was referring too haha

[stopper2]

Was a regular pre-Gombau. Slowly phased out of the first team as the Spanish influence really kicked in. Started 73 of his 106 games for Adelaide but only 17 of them were in the last two years... and only TWO of them last season.
Cheers mate, so if he were to come here he would be trying to resurrect his career and to basically prove Gombau wrong

[Tommyjet]

Cheers mate, so if he were to come here he would be trying to resurrect his career and to basically prove Gombau wrong

Watson can also play right back effectively. He isn't a spectacular box to box midfielder with a great shot or outstanding passing. He does the little things right and has good technique and a decent game tactical sense

[matty]

Apparently agreed to terms, has a medical tomorrow, so id be guessing we will have confirmation by the end of the week

[MFKS]

Was a regular pre-Gombau. Slowly phased out of the first team as the Spanish influence really kicked in. Started 73 of his 106 games for Adelaide but only 17 of them were in the last two years... and only TWO of them last season.

So he is following the same career path as roundabout???

[pv4]

Grim - what other HAL players would you compare Watson to? I can barely remember watching him play, but figure if I get told "he's like this guy" that'd at least give me an idea on what he's like.

[Premy]

Grim - what other HAL players would you compare Watson to? I can barely remember watching him play, but figure if I get told "he's like this guy" that'd at least give me an idea on what he's like.
A less promising Brilliante

[Wilso8948]

A less promising Brilliante

A better Pepper.

[RAM]

Grim - what other HAL players would you compare Watson to? I can barely remember watching him play, but figure if I get told "he's like this guy" that'd at least give me an idea on what he's like.

He is nothing flash, just does a job in defensive midfield. Not a great passer, not much of a touch or a dribbler but holds his position and can make the odd tackle.

I'd say the comparisons to a lesser Brillante or on par with Pepper are about right.

[The Camel]

Cowburn hasn't been signed
Lundy for RW/LW ahead of Pav
Haliti back up for AMC as well
Haliti as starting striker with who we have with Pav as back up there

I think?

Barresi is still under contract as well for CAM.

[Premy]

Barresi is still under contract as well for CAM.
I chose to ignore him, nothing I have seen from him gives me reason to think he'll be successful at this level.

[The Camel]

I chose to ignore him, nothing I have seen from him gives me reason to think he'll be successful at this level.

Then why wasn't Hoffman ignored?

[Tommyjet]

Watson, poljak, kanta is far more solid than kanta, roundabout and pepper

[Grimario]

Grim - what other HAL players would you compare Watson to? I can barely remember watching him play, but figure if I get told "he's like this guy" that'd at least give me an idea on what he's like.

Jeggo light. He does all of the things okay, none of them amazingly. Kind of like Pepper which Wilso said.

[Premy]

Then why wasn't Hoffman ignored?
I'm willing to give him another chance, I must admit that I haven't seen much of him at Heart/City but if his transformed into a RB then I'm willing to be open minded.

[Jeterpool]

Watson, poljak, kanta is far more solid than kanta, roundabout and pepper

And that's 3 players for 2 positions. We still need an attacking player because what hasn't been added is goals.

[JetRift]

Anyone have Mitch Murphy's number? If so, tell him to look at a player named Grzegorz Kuświk. 28 year old Striker from Poland. Currently a free agent.

[RAM]

And that's 3 players for 2 positions. We still need an attacking player because what hasn't been added is goals.

I'd have at least 4 holders in a squad, maybe 5. High workrate position.

[Jetmaster]

Anyone have Mitch Murphy's number? If so, tell him to look at a player named Grzegorz Kuświk. 28 year old Striker from Poland. Currently a free agent.

Imagine if MM actually took fan requests.

[Thomas477]

Imagine if MM actually took fan requests.

Starting lineup would be:

Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff

[Grimario]

Starting lineup would be:

Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff

Bollocks it would. You would have your everyday Jerks fan demanding it be Bridgey.

[lquiquer]

Who will be captain ? Mullen? Boogaard? Carney? Labi?

[Tommyjet]

Starting lineup would be:

Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff
Griff

We wouldn't have a fit player till after Chrissy then

[joel31]

Who will be captain ? Mullen? Boogaard? Carney? Labi?
Mitch Cooper. He's got the most A-League captains experience from the lot

[Jeterpool]

Who will be captain ? Mullen? Boogaard? Carney? Labi?

I'm still thinking it will be Boogaard.

[joel31]

Anyone have Mitch Murphy's number? If so, tell him to look at a player named Grzegorz Kuświk. 28 year old Striker from Poland. Currently a free agent.
Is he good on FM?

[The Camel]

I'm still thinking it will be Boogaard.

I think that is a good option

[Grimario]

Is he good on FM?

Not as good as Brosque, better than Babalj, on par with Juric.

[JetRift]

Boogaard's the only option for captaincy as far as i'm concerned

[The Dunster]

Boogaard's the only option for captaincy as far as i'm concerned

Welcome to the forums Nigel.

[Grimario]

Seems like a cheap option... 23, played his entire career (that I can see) in the ASB Premiership. South African born, NZ naturalised, capped in the friendly against South Korea a few months back.

Hope he is amazing.

Some blokes elsewhere saying he is a gun... I've posed the question as to why he has never played above ASB or Vic NPL level. And given he is a kiwi, why isn't Ernie chasing him to replace Burns if he is as amazing as he is being made out to be.

Obviously hope he is and we sign him.

[plague]

BK.

[MFKS]

BK.

So you think we should go with a revolutionary idea and position our captain on the bench every week??

[plague]

So you think we should go with a revolutionary idea and position our captain on the bench every week??

BK on bench > gypo.
BK out injured > gypo.
BK on holidays > gypo.
BK retired > gypo.

[ToddG NBUnited]

Cowburn is still training with the squad and is travelling with the team on their NNSW tour next week

[stopper2]

Watson deal must be just about done as Johnny Davidson on twitter posted that he is doing a medical

[glassofwhiskey]

Hey boys, been following the foz for a couple months now. Thought it was time to join in on the discussion. I'll start off by saying if were going to sign Watson, we may as well have well kept Zenon.

[stopper2]

Hey boys, been following the foz for a couple months now. Thought it was time to join in on the discussion. I'll start off by saying if were going to sign Watson, we may as well have well kept Zenon.

By all reports from what I've heard Zenon after being shafted by Muppet moved back to Cairns with his family and is happy there and running his own Football clinic for kids. Very unlikely that he would uproot his family again even if an offer was forthcoming.

[Jeterpool]

Hey boys, been following the foz for a couple months now. Thought it was time to join in on the discussion. I'll start off by saying if were going to sign Watson, we may as well have well kept Zenon.

Welcome to the madhouse

[pv4]

Why is it that we always seem to struggle majorly with visa issues for our foreign players?

I would have thought under FFA ownership that we could have pushed these things through easier.

The Herald (http://bit.ly/4kb77v) is reporting that Alivodic might miss out on our preseason training camp, and FFA Cup game, because of it.

[Jeterpool]

Looking like Cam Watson is tied up.

[white city]

Why is it that we always seem to struggle majorly with visa issues for our foreign players?

I would have thought under FFA ownership that we could have pushed these things through easier.

The Herald (http://bit.ly/4kb77v) is reporting that Alivodic might miss out on our preseason training camp, and FFA Cup game, because of it.

Something has me worried about this Alivodic situation, even by the way the article was mentioning that "Other than Haliti, David Carney and rookies Lundy and Radovan Pavicevic, their front third stocks appear thin."

i dont think they are too confident that he will return. This will be a massive loss, after he picked up fitness last year he was easily one of our most potent attacking players, i was really expecting greater results with a pre-season. However all that may not be possible

[Tommyjet]

Something has me worried about this Alivodic situation, even by the way the article was mentioning that "Other than Haliti, David Carney and rookies Lundy and Radovan Pavicevic, their front third stocks appear thin."

i dont think they are too confident that he will return. This will be a massive loss, after he picked up fitness last year he was easily one of our most potent attacking players, i was really expecting greater results with a pre-season. However all that may not be possible

Especially worrying is that, if alivodic doesn't return, he is likely to be replaced by someone like danning or de vries. We need alivodic's guile, experience and creativity, even if we sign a super no.10.

[Jeterpool]

Something has me worried about this Alivodic situation, even by the way the article was mentioning that "Other than Haliti, David Carney and rookies Lundy and Radovan Pavicevic, their front third stocks appear thin."

i dont think they are too confident that he will return. This will be a massive loss, after he picked up fitness last year he was easily one of our most potent attacking players, i was really expecting greater results with a pre-season. However all that may not be possible

I'm with you. I've got a level of concern

[pv4]

I don't see how it can be that difficult tbh. He has played in the country before.

Sydney FC aka Bondi White Eagles aka Serbney FC are signing guys from Serbia and Slovakia left right and centre, and I'm confident their guys won't be blocked by red tape before the season starts.

Like I said earlier, I assumed under FFA ownership that these kind of issues would be extremely less existent. The fact that they aren't says to me that potentially in certain areas we've (ie forum geniuses) been way too harsh on former admin.

[Jeterpool]

I don't see how it can be that difficult tbh. He has played in the country before.

Sydney FC aka Bondi White Eagles aka Serbney FC are signing guys from Serbia and Slovakia left right and centre, and I'm confident their guys won't be blocked by red tape before the season starts.

Like I said earlier, I assumed under FFA ownership that these kind of issues would be extremely less existent. The fact that they aren't says to me that potentially in certain areas we've (ie forum geniuses) been way too harsh on former admin.

Do we know what the issue is?

[RAM]

**** me. If we lose Alivodic I will seriously lose my shit.

Ditto comments about Zenon and Watson. Zenon is a far superior footballer, and dare I say athlete too.

[lquiquer]

He either is not keen to come back (Better offer in China / Middle East / Europe) or he has a criminal record in Serbia :sigh:

[stopper2]

^^^^
Just a hunch but recall when Alivodic came out and was very supportive of Stubbins in the media? He re-signed when Stubbins was still in charge and may have thought that he would be a key player in the Muppet's plans for next season. The Muppet is shown the door and all of a sudden he realises that he is just another player in the squad fighting for a spot under a totally new coaching set-up. Maybe he has got cold feet and won't be returning!?

[Tommyjet]

**** me. If we lose Alivodic I will seriously lose my shit.

Ditto comments about Zenon and Watson. Zenon is a far superior footballer, and dare I say athlete too.
I don't agree re the xenon vs Watson thing, not really worth arguing about so carry on

[Blackmac79]

Roundabout could be farking infuriating sometimes....

[MFKS]

Re Alivodic

Settle the **** down.

He will be here soon enough so stop speculating complete shit as to why he ain't here


It ain't like the Jets have a great record in organising visas international clearances etc

Just business as usual for us.

[GazFish35]

Newcastle Jets welcome Watson

Newcastle Jets can today confirm that another player has been added to the club’s Hyundai A-League 2015/16 roster, with former Adelaide United utility Cameron Watson having finalised a one-season deal with Scott Miller’s men.

Watson, who started 73 of his 106 apperarances for the Reds during his five-season spell in the city of churches arrived in Newcastle yesterday afternoon and successfully completed his medical with Jets staff.



With the ink now dry on Watson’s contract, Miller said that he is confident that the versatile former FC Porto and VVV Venlo man will prove to be a shrewd acquisition for the club.

“Cameron Watson has accumulated sound A-League experience over the past five years to complement his time developing in Europe when he was younger,” Miller said.

“A clear benefit for us is that Cameron can play not only a midfield role, but also provide cover in the right fullback position. Naturally this adds depth to our squad and will help increase competition for places in the team.”

“We view Cameron as a combative but also clever player who at 28 still has time some of his best years as a professional ahead of him,” Miller concluded.

Watson said that he is pleased to link with his second A-League club, and is excited by the opportunity he has been given with the side from Hunter Stadium.

“It’s a new challenge and a fresh start,” Watson said. “There are exciting times ahead I think with this rebuilding phase of the club.”

“In terms of my style of play, I have always prided myself on getting up and down the field and helping out in defence and attack.”

“Newcastle was always a tough place to come and play while I was with Adelaide, so I am looking forward to helping the team make sure that whenever we play we make our Members proud,” he said.


watson IN

hope he's not wearing 3.

[Jeterpool]

watson IN

hope he's not wearing 3.

:rof:

[Grimario]

Provide source!

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/confirmed-newcastle-jets-welcome-watson/2mh2k1mnfm1n1acj4yh5ymyr3

[lquiquer]

Re Alivodic

Settle the **** down.

He will be here soon enough so stop speculating complete shit as to why he ain't here


It ain't like the Jets have a great record in organising visas international clearances etc

Just business as usual for us.

If we don't speculate we got nothing to talk about but the landing on the moon :lulzturtle:

[GazFish35]

Provide source!

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/confirmed-newcastle-jets-welcome-watson/2mh2k1mnfm1n1acj4yh5ymyr3

source was me email...... you aint getting into that :rof:

[RAM]

SBS reporting that Babalj is signing for AU

May have dodged a bullet imo

[MFKS]

SBS reporting that Babalj is signing for AU

May have dodged a bullet imo


Care to enlighten us all on that.

You seem to be implying we have dodged a bullet by having a better striker on the books than we currently have??

[RAM]

Care to enlighten us all on that.

You seem to be implying we have dodged a bullet by having a better striker on the books than we currently have??

Good to see you're as stupid on here as on FA :rof:

Might have dodged a bullet as in - Babalj probably wanted decent coin and really hasn't done much in the HAL nor did he do much in Europe other than score some goals in reserves. Our money might be better utilised elsewhere....

[Grimario]

Good to see you're as stupid on here as on FA :rof:

Might have dodged a bullet as in - Babalj probably wanted decent coin and really hasn't done much in the HAL nor did he do much in Europe other than score some goals in reserves. Our money might be better utilised elsewhere....

9 in 22 for Heart before he left. That's a pretty decent record. He's Australian, 23, has a few years training and playing reserves in Europe under his belt.

Better than Pav or Haliti.

[The Camel]

9 in 22 for Heart before he left. That's a pretty decent record. He's Australian, 23, has a few years training and playing reserves in Europe under his belt.

Better than Pav or Haliti.

I am with you. I think he will kill it back in the A League, just needs to stay injury free.

[RAM]

9 in 22 for Heart before he left. That's a pretty decent record. He's Australian, 23, has a few years training and playing reserves in Europe under his belt.

Better than Pav or Haliti.

No contest with Pav.

Not sure he's better than Haliti, but that's not a high bar particularly when you're talking marquee money IMO

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Everyone all over the A-League FB announcement of Watson, ADL fans rejoicing he's gone and others mocking the coaches signings. Everything is back to normal :lol:

[Bon]

Everyone all over the A-League FB announcement of Watson, ADL fans rejoicing he's gone and others mocking the coaches signings. Everything is back to normal :lol:

I noticed that too.. But its the standard facebook fan's view on everything.. I wouldn't look in to it too much..

[The Camel]

No contest with Pav.

Not sure he's better than Haliti, but that's not a high bar particularly when you're talking marquee money IMO

He is not getting paid Marquee money. Not what I have seen anyway. Just on mid range salary

[Frodo]

9 in 22 for Heart before he left. That's a pretty decent record. He's Australian, 23, has a few years training and playing reserves in Europe under his belt.

Doesn't Watson have European Youth experience? Trying not to wade into this striker debate but if we are going to take that as a positive we should do the same for Watson.

Does anyone think that the FFA are trying to leave the 9 & 10 spots free in case a new owner comes in and wants a couple of decent signings to get an instant feel good factor? Or do we think the FFA have already found them and are waiting to announce them in a few weeks to get the most impact in membership sales once the media starts talking about the HAL again? Just getting my conspiracy theories out there...

[Grimario]

Doesn't Watson have European Youth experience? Trying not to wade into this striker debate but if we are going to take that as a positive we should do the same for Watson.


Yeah, he went over and failed... 10 years ago. He's been in Australia playing NPL and A-League since 2007.

[borat]

He is not getting paid Marquee money. Not what I have seen anyway. Just on mid range salary
You have seen Babalj's pay slips from Holland?

[The Camel]

You have seen Babalj's pay slips from Holland?

I mean I do not believe that he is being signed by Adelaide as Australian Marquee, I could be wrong but RAM suggested he was getting Marquee wages. I was under the impression he is being signed under the salary cap.

[Grimario]

I mean I do not believe that he is being signed by Adelaide as Australian Marquee, I could be wrong but RAM suggested he was getting Marquee wages. I was under the impression he is being signed under the salary cap.

Yeah, I reckon Juric would demand a higher salary being a current Socceroo and all.

[Frodo]

Yeah, he went over and failed... 10 years ago. He's been in Australia playing NPL and A-League since 2007.

So did Babalj and people are speaking pretty highly of him?

[Grimario]

So did Babalj and people are speaking pretty highly of him?

Where is anyone speaking highly of Babalj? RAM said he was shit and not worth marquee money and all I can see in response is that he's less shit than what we have and that the suggestion is that he's not on marquee money at Adelaide?

Also, Babalj has yet to come back and spend 3 seasons at Oakleigh nor has Watson played a Socceroos game.

[Frodo]

Where is anyone speaking highly of Babalj? RAM said he was shit and not worth marquee money and all I can see in response is that he's less shit than what we have and that the suggestion is that he's not on marquee money at Adelaide?

He seems about on par with our current options with a better upside. Which isn't meant to be an insult, just he probably isn't a HAL level starter yet.
My initial point was in linking the Watson hate to the Babalj, let's call it "non-hate". People jumping to negative conclusions. I'd rather have a team of Watson's over a team of Carney's. Cameron Watson's that is, no Shane's allowed.

[Grimario]

He seems about on par with our current options with a better upside. Which isn't meant to be an insult, just he probably isn't a HAL level starter yet.
My initial point was in linking the Watson hate to the Babalj, let's call it "non-hate". People jumping to negative conclusions. I'd rather have a team of Watson's over a team of Carney's. Cameron Watson's that is, no Shane's allowed.

I think you're crazier than MFKS if you think he's only on par with Pav or Haliti.

He'd be a walk up starter in our squad, hands down.

[RAM]

Where is anyone speaking highly of Babalj? RAM said he was shit and not worth marquee money and all I can see in response is that he's less shit than what we have and that the suggestion is that he's not on marquee money at Adelaide?

Also, Babalj has yet to come back and spend 3 seasons at Oakleigh nor has Watson played a Socceroos game.

Where'd I say he was shit? ****ing liar.

[Grimario]

Where'd I say he was shit? ****ing liar.

We dodged a bullet.
He's done nothing in the A-League or in Europe.
He wants decent coin.

I rolled everything you said up into "RAM said he was shit" and if you can't make that connection then there is something wrong.

[MFKS]

Good to see you're as stupid on here as on FA :rof:

Might have dodged a bullet as in - Babalj probably wanted decent coin and really hasn't done much in the HAL nor did he do much in Europe other than score some goals in reserves. Our money might be better utilised elsewhere....

I will agree with you he has never set the HAL on fire and has done little in Europe to warrant marquee money.
Neither has that poor mans Matt Simon the one and only Tomi Juric who everyone would be fapping over if we signed him (except me)

Babalj has big potential. Make no mistake about it. For the right price he would be a very good signing for a side as ours.

To say he is on par with Labi and the rest of our strikers says to me you are massively over rating the blokes we have and you may be getting high off the horse shit smell blowing in from your farm.

PS on another note tone it down a bit with your replies around here.
The gestapo are watching

[The Dunster]

If Babalj won the golden boot it would not suprise me. He's got good technical skills, a powerful shot, and he's as big and strong as anyone you are ever likely to see in the A-league.

His record in the A-league so far plus a little overseas experience would make him well worth a shot as an Aussie marquee.

Too good for the likes of us I guess.

[Tommyjet]

If Babalj won the golden boot it would not suprise me. He's got good technical skills, a powerful shot, and he's as big and strong as anyone you are ever likely to see in the A-league.

His record in the A-league so far plus a little overseas experience would make him well worth a shot as an Aussie marquee.

Too good for the likes of us I guess.

The lure of getting fed chances by carrusca, cirio, Sanchez, Goodwin, jeggo would be much greater than what we can produce.

[Grimario]

If Babalj won the golden boot it would not suprise me. He's got good technical skills, a powerful shot, and he's as big and strong as anyone you are ever likely to see in the A-league.

His record in the A-league so far plus a little overseas experience would make him well worth a shot as an Aussie marquee.

Too good for the likes of us I guess.

If he plays for Adelaide, agree. The amount of chances their strikers wasted, whether it was Djite or Sanchez, was astronomical.

[Frodo]

My bad, I'll trust others judgements on him. I just had a look at his stats and saw 2 goals in 3 years and thought he had gone to Europe and had barely kicked a first team ball. If he comes to Adelaide i'll get to see him play and will be happy to eat my words.

It's been too long since someone complained about Hoffman.. Are you people not even trying anymore?

[Jeterpool]

Trialists were cut today. Trying to find out who

[stopper2]

Trialists were cut today. Trying to find out who

I'd say Danning was one, Ramsay left earlier in the week.

My two cents worth on Babalj, yes he has the talent and showed potential from a young age but at 23 now he has to start delivering on the pitch a la Taggart for us back in 2013/14.

[Jeterpool]

Burgess, Antelmi (sp?), Cowburn and one other were trialling

[The Postman]

Burgess, Antelmi (sp?), Cowburn and one other were trialling

The Williams twin was the other.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

My bad, I'll trust others judgements on him. I just had a look at his stats and saw 2 goals in 3 years and thought he had gone to Europe and had barely kicked a first team ball. If he comes to Adelaide i'll get to see him play and will be happy to eat my words.

It's been too long since someone complained about Hoffman.. Are you people not even trying anymore?

Wrong thread mate.

[Jeterpool]

The Williams twin was the other.

Thanks

[matty]

All 4 trialists were cut today. Did not sign one

[Fairgo]

All 4 trialists were cut today. Did not sign one

Good watched the intra club game and the stand out was Papas. This kid has represented at every level at youth and deserves a go.

[The Camel]

Good watched the intra club game and the stand out was Papas. This kid has represented at every level at youth and deserves a go.

I thought Burgess might be worth keeping on

[glassofwhiskey]

Max Burgess, Kofi Danning, Aryn Williams and Pat Antelmi were the trialists cut. Lundy and Cowburn will train with the squad until the end of the pre-season then Miller will decide wether to give them senior contracts or youth contracts. Pretty disappointed Antelmi and Burgess weren't offered contracts.

[MFKS]

Max Burgess, Kofi Danning, Aryn Williams and Pat Antelmi were the trialists cut. Lundy and Cowburn will train with the squad until the end of the pre-season then Miller will decide wether to give them senior contracts or youth contracts. Pretty disappointed Antelmi and Burgess weren't offered contracts.

That's not right

Lundy has 12 months left on his Yoof Contract and will be training with the squad full time just like he did last season. He will be then either selected in the NYL side or HAL side as Millertime deems fit.
He is as contracted to the club just like Carney BK Leaky G etc.

Yes the club can choose to release him completely from his contract right now but they would be obligated to pay him out.

Millertime though may like what he sees in Brandon and offer him a big boys contract before season starts anyway. Unlikely as for simple accounting procedures with the salary cap they would be better off waiting the 12 months and then doing it thus keeping Brandon at the club but paying him less money for the meantime.

As for Cowburn he is on the same Yoof contract he was on before he played HAL level last season.

If he gets picked and plays he in the HAL he gets paid match payments as stipulated in the deal which count towards the salary cap. He is on the exact same wicket as every other kid in the Yoof team except he is expected to train with the first team.

He is too old to meet the criteria of the Yoof contract Lundy is on and the club will have to upgrade him to a senior deal in the next 12 months or cut him completely when he gets too old for the Yoof team

Difference between the two really is that Lundy has a guaranteed income from the club where as Cowburn gets peanuts unless he plays HAL or Millertime gives him a senior deal.

[JetRift]

That's not right

Lundy has 12 months left on his Yoof Contract and will be training with the squad full time just like he did last season. He will be then either selected in the NYL side or HAL side as Millertime deems fit.
He is as contracted to the club just like Carney BK Leaky G etc.

Yes the club can choose to release him completely from his contract right now but they would be obligated to pay him out.

Millertime though may like what he sees in Brandon and offer him a big boys contract before season starts anyway. Unlikely as for simple accounting procedures with the salary cap they would be better off waiting the 12 months and then doing it thus keeping Brandon at the club but paying him less money for the meantime.

As for Cowburn he is on the same Yoof contract he was on before he played HAL level last season.

If he gets picked and plays he in the HAL he gets paid match payments as stipulated in the deal which count towards the salary cap. He is on the exact same wicket as every other kid in the Yoof team except he is expected to train with the first team.

He is too old to meet the criteria of the Yoof contract Lundy is on and the club will have to upgrade him to a senior deal in the next 12 months or cut him completely when he gets too old for the Yoof team

Difference between the two really is that Lundy has a guaranteed income from the club where as Cowburn gets peanuts unless he plays HAL or Millertime gives him a senior deal.

With that vast amount of knowledge you really must be the son of Christ

[WolfMan]

I thought Burgess might be worth keeping on

Not alone there. But I will trust the judgement of those now at the helm until they give me reason not to

[glassofwhiskey]

That's not right

Lundy has 12 months left on his Yoof Contract and will be training with the squad full time just like he did last season. He will be then either selected in the NYL side or HAL side as Millertime deems fit.
He is as contracted to the club just like Carney BK Leaky G etc.

Yes the club can choose to release him completely from his contract right now but they would be obligated to pay him out.

Millertime though may like what he sees in Brandon and offer him a big boys contract before season starts anyway. Unlikely as for simple accounting procedures with the salary cap they would be better off waiting the 12 months and then doing it thus keeping Brandon at the club but paying him less money for the meantime.

As for Cowburn he is on the same Yoof contract he was on before he played HAL level last season.

If he gets picked and plays he in the HAL he gets paid match payments as stipulated in the deal which count towards the salary cap. He is on the exact same wicket as every other kid in the Yoof team except he is expected to train with the first team.

He is too old to meet the criteria of the Yoof contract Lundy is on and the club will have to upgrade him to a senior deal in the next 12 months or cut him completely when he gets too old for the Yoof team

Difference between the two really is that Lundy has a guaranteed income from the club where as Cowburn gets peanuts unless he plays HAL or Millertime gives him a senior deal.

Lundy hasn't yet been offered the "like for like" contract. My knowledge is that he has to earn it from "Millertime". If not then it's back to the "yoof" team. I'm a fan of Cowburn but it's not looking likely that he will earn a first team contract.

[borat]

Not alone there. But I will trust the judgement of those now at the helm until they give me reason not to

Their trials ended and they won't be signed at this stage. Doesn't mean they won't be.

Miller wants to sign the foreign 9 & 10 first. I suspect if their is any salary cap left they will either sign one of the trialists or hold the spot for January.

[borat]

Lundy hasn't yet been offered the "like for like" contract. My knowledge is that he has to earn it from "Millertime". If not then it's back to the "yoof" team. I'm a fan of Cowburn but it's not looking likely that he will earn a first team contract.

The problem with these NYL contracts is that they don't bind the player. At any stage during the year another club can offer Cowburn a short term injury replacement deal and he can walk immediately.

[The Dunster]

Given the players Miller has cut so far I am beginning to think he just might be the man for the job.

[MFKS]

Lundy hasn't yet been offered the "like for like" contract. My knowledge is that he has to earn it from "Millertime". If not then it's back to the "yoof" team. I'm a fan of Cowburn but it's not looking likely that he will earn a first team contract.

I was told from a deadset spot on sauce Lundy definitely signed his contract the day before Pascoe got his job back.
As this subject of Pascoe getting his job back definitely came up in discussion when I last spoke to my sauce on Brandons contract status

My sauce is pretty reliable and without divulging who I am pretty content they are accurate.


If I recall the timeline of events correctly it was signed even before Millertime got the job.

[glassofwhiskey]

I was told from a deadset spot on sauce Lundy definitely signed his contract the day before Pascoe got his job back.
As this subject of Pascoe getting his job back definitely came up in discussion when I last spoke to my sauce on Brandons contract status

My sauce is pretty reliable and without divulging who I am pretty content they are accurate.


If I recall the timeline of events correctly it was signed even before Millertime got the job.

Fair enough, is it tomato or bbq?

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Fair enough, is it tomato or bbq?

Aioli mate.

[pv4]

Thinking of the salary cap..

Archie Thompson has basically been the catalyst for the FFA to look into some of a players salary being excluded from the cap if they've been with the club for 5 years. I think it's 150k exclusion.

This surely means all of either BK or Kanta's contracts will be considered outside the cap, and we have a bit more room to play with for our remaining two visa spots.

Also, apparently the FFA are moving to 2x Marquee positions, as opposed to 1x Marquee and 1x Australian Marquee.

[tomo]

Thinking of the salary cap..

Archie Thompson has basically been the catalyst for the FFA to look into some of a players salary being excluded from the cap if they've been with the club for 5 years. I think it's 150k exclusion.

This surely means all of either BK or Kanta's contracts will be considered outside the cap, and we have a bit more room to play with for our remaining two visa spots.

Also, apparently the FFA are moving to 2x Marquee positions, as opposed to 1x Marquee and 1x Australian Marquee.

I brought this up a few weeks back...

Its $200k exemption... But the general concensus was that because it excludes the cap the FFA wont assist...

[Jeterpool]

I brought this up a few weeks back...

Its $200k exemption... But the general concensus was that because it excludes the cap the FFA wont assist...

Yeah Grim and I went back and forth a bit on it and decided the Jets are a dodgy rental.

[Beeen]

re the 2 x marquee positions - Yeah what warrants piovaccari signing a maruqee poisition at WS? Hasn't played for the national side before hasn't he?

wait, i just realise i'm talking crap here. ignore

[pv4]

what warrants piovaccari signing a maruqee poisition at WS? Hasn't played for the national side before hasn't he?

Even though you said ignore, I feel like it's fair to point out that Piovaccari has a far, far better CV than Sydney FC's Filip Holosko. The fact that Piovaccari was "unlucky" enough not to have been born in a far lower ranked international side would be a large reason why he hasn't had international caps. And Piovaccari has come from La Liga, and scored goals in an awful team there, whereas Holosko came from Turkey. So I'd say even without the international games, Piovaccari is much more deserving of a marquee position.

[Grimario]

re the 2 x marquee positions - Yeah what warrants piovaccari signing a maruqee poisition at WS? Hasn't played for the national side before hasn't he?

wait, i just realise i'm talking crap here. ignore

Second to what pv4 said... marquee is a daft term and the FFA just need to man up and go "we are replacing the marquee player rule with the designated player rule" and just make it simply two people (one Oz, one whatever) who don't count towards the salary cap.

[Beeen]

Second to what pv4 said... marquee is a daft term and the FFA just need to man up and go "we are replacing the marquee player rule with the designated player rule" and just make it simply two people (one Oz, one whatever) who don't count towards the salary cap.

Yeah i realise after the signings club have made, including our own, that this is the way it should be.

[The Postman]

Just read on the Jets Facebook the teams for the Intra Club trial. Seems a return to the 4231 is on the cards.

Jets A
GK - BK
RB - Hoff
CB - Mullen
CB - Boogs
LB - Leaky
CM - Poljak
CM - Watson
RM - Lundy
CAM - Cooper
LM - Carney
ST - Haliti

Jets B
GK - Biraz
RB - Cowbie
CB - Marlow
CB - Jackson
LB - Papas
CM - Kanta 1
CM - Kanta 2
RM - de Vries
CAM - Pavicevic
LM - Barresi
ST - Crowley

Subs for both teams
Pawaik and the 5 locals.

Jets A won 1-0

Brennan missing, is he hurt?
And Enver still waiting for VISA to be sorted.

[lquiquer]

Just read on the Jets Facebook the teams for the Intra Club trial. Seems a return to the 4231 is on the cards.

Jets A
GK - BK
RB - Hoff
CB - Mullen
CB - Boogs
LB - Leaky
CM - Poljak
CM - Watson
RM - Lundy
CAM - Cooper
LM - Carney
ST - Haliti

Jets B
GK - Biraz
RB - Cowbie
CB - Marlow
CB - Jackson
LB - Papas
CM - Kanta 1
CM - Kanta 2
RM - de Vries
CAM - Pavicevic
LM - Barresi
ST - Crowley

Subs for both teams
Pawaik and the 5 locals.

Jets A won 1-0

Brennan missing, is he hurt?
And Enver still waiting for VISA to be sorted.

So BK numéro un?

[The Postman]

So BK numéro un?

They switched after the first 20 minute period.

So Labi scored against BK...

Let the debate rage on :brrr:

[GazFish35]

Debate?

There isn't one.

Labs is king!

[belchardo]

Real question about the match is "did labi bust out the chest after scoring?"

[matty]

Envers visa is cleared and will be in town saturday afternoon

[Jeterpool]

Real question about the match is "did labi bust out the chest after scoring?"

And did BK dive?

[Outoftowner]

I don't agree with your argument here MFKS for you to say Labi is not on par with Babalj and that he is overrated, I think your overlooking things and focusing to much on assumptions rather than facts in this case.

Because if we compare these 2 players Labi has scored more goals and achieved 10 times more silverware then Babalj has in last 4 years and his entire playing career.

Babalj's achievements in last 4 years -

Red Star Belgrade 6 (1)
2013 Melbourne Heart 9 (1)
2013– AZ 0 (0)
2015 → PEC Zwolle (loan) 4 (0)
2015– → Adelaide United (loan)

Labi's achievements in last 4 years -

Scored 5 goals in Asian Champions league
Scored 10 goals for WSW in. Aleague

2012 - Aleague Minor Premiers
2013 - Aleague grand final
2014 - Asian Champions


This all proves your argument is not valid when it comes to the quality of these 2 players.


I will agree with you he has never set the HAL on fire and has done little in Europe to warra
nt marquee money.
Neither has that poor mans Matt Simon the one and only Tomi Juric who everyone would be fapping over if we signed him (except me)

Babalj has big potential. Make no mistake about it. For the right price he would be a very good signing for a side as ours.

To say he is on par with Labi and the rest of our strikers says to me you are massively over rating the blokes we have and you may be getting high off the horse shit smell blowing in from your farm.

PS on another note tone it down a bit with your replies around here.
The gestapo are watching

[stopper2]

Just read on the Jets Facebook the teams for the Intra Club trial. Seems a return to the 4231 is on the cards.

Jets A
GK - BK
RB - Hoff
CB - Mullen
CB - Boogs
LB - Leaky
CM - Poljak
CM - Watson
RM - Lundy
CAM - Cooper
LM - Carney
ST - Haliti

Jets B
GK - Biraz
RB - Cowbie
CB - Marlow
CB - Jackson
LB - Papas
CM - Kanta 1
CM - Kanta 2
RM - de Vries
CAM - Pavicevic
LM - Barresi
ST - Crowley

Subs for both teams
Pawaik and the 5 locals.

Jets A won 1-0

Brennan missing, is he hurt?
And Enver still waiting for VISA to be sorted.

You add Alivodic to that "A" team and a quality #9 and #10 (fingers-crossed) and we have a decent squad with a good mix of youth and experience. I think we can be competitive as long as we do not have too many injuries to key players because our lack of real depth (as highlighted by the players in the "B" team) is a concern.

[Tommyjet]

You add Alivodic to that "A" team and a quality #9 and #10 (fingers-crossed) and we have a decent squad with a good mix of youth and experience. I think we can be competitive as long as we do not have too many injuries to key players because our lack of real depth (as highlighted by the players in the "B" team) is a concern.

I can't see us being a team that chases the game that well. Hopefully miller will be true to his word in terms of putting out a disciplined, fit team so that we can avoid giving up early leads

[stopper2]

I can't see us being a team that chases the game that well. Hopefully miller will be true to his word in terms of putting out a disciplined, fit team so that we can avoid giving up early leads

Yeah Tommy, it's been years since we've had a team that has been able to power on for the full 90 minutes plus. Under GVE and Muppet we have become a team that has looked off the pace compared to most of the other teams. The fact that in so many games over this era we have given away so many goals in the crucial last 15 minutes shows that we have been not only physically deficient in terms of fitness but also tactically naïve in not being able to close games out when we've had the lead.

[Tommyjet]

Yeah Tommy, it's been years since we've had a team that has been able to power on for the full 90 minutes plus. Under GVE and Muppet we have become a team that has looked off the pace compared to most of the other teams. The fact that in so many games over this era we have given away so many goals in the crucial last 15 minutes shows that we have been not only physically deficient in terms of fitness but also tactically naïve in not being able to close games out when we've had the lead.

Surely we can't be physically deficient this season though. I'd say this our best opportunity since 08 to be on level pegging with the top teams fitness wise at least. Miller and jones expertise should have even this squad purring come the opening rounds. That will be our first main indicator of a hopefully more professional club culture.

[R Ramjet]

It would be nice to hear a signing this week. Hopefully these 2 visa signings miller keeps mentioning happen sooner rather than never.
Give us fans something to be excited about

[white city]

It would be nice to hear a signing this week. Hopefully these 2 visa signings miller keeps mentioning happen sooner rather than never.
Give us fans something to be excited about

yes this would be nice, i did see an article the other day about Younes Mahmood (iraqi Captain) coming to the a-league, wonder whether this could be one of the mentioned players? However more than likely will end up at Sydney

[Tommyjet]

yes this would be nice, i did see an article the other day about Younes Mahmood (iraqi Captain) coming to the a-league, wonder whether this could be one of the mentioned players? However more than likely will end up at Sydney
Shitney don't have any visa positions left. Not sure about the wankerers.

[Bon]

Shitney don't have any visa positions left. Not sure about the wankerers.

I'm sure they will find a way.. :rof:

[q-money]

I'm sure they will find a way.. :rof:

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/02/01/1225998/329337-david-gallop.jpg

you rang?

[pv4]

Shitney don't have any visa positions left. Not sure about the wankerers.

SFC have used all 5 visa spots, and both marquees.

WSW have used 4/5 visa spots, and have the Australian Marquee free (which potentially could turn into Marquee, if the rule changes take place).

AUFC - 5, both marquees.
Roar - 4, both marquees.
CCM - 2, no marquees.
City - 3, Aust Marquee free.
MV - 5, Aust Marquee free.
Jerks - 3, no marquees.
Glory - 2, both marquees.
Wellington - 4, no marquees.

[Tommyjet]

yes this would be nice, i did see an article the other day about Younes Mahmood (iraqi Captain) coming to the a-league, wonder whether this could be one of the mentioned players? However more than likely will end up at Sydney

Get Mahmoud and then Abbas back from Sydney.

Gee I hope whoever the 2 incoming visas are as good as/hopefully better than leaky and the Serb

[white city]

Collins John is free and did spend a good 5 years at Fulham (miller's mate?)

[tomo]

Matt Simon to Syd FC on a 1 year deal... Even more of a reason to hate him

[terry]

Matt Simon to Syd FC on a 1 year deal... Even more of a reason to hate him

so ****ney has has another aids ridden pos wearing the blue. some things never change

[Tommyjet]

Evan kostopoulos and Alex smith now trialling this week in case anyone hasn't read the herald today.
Kostopoulos winger/striker that got let go when gombau took over and brought in his spaniards. I thought he had potential but alas gombau had to make room.
I think most people know about smith. Wiki has him scoring 45 goals from 44 games at fnq fury the last couple of season. Can play anywhere in the front 2/3rds basically.

[Grimario]

De Vries still on trial?

Seems odd to potentially drop a visa spot on a guy who has reached the stunning heights of NPL and ASB (with some CWC in the mix, of course).

[RAM]

De Vries still on trial?

Seems odd to potentially drop a visa spot on a guy who has reached the stunning heights of NPL and ASB (with some CWC in the mix, of course).

He started upfront for the B team in the game in Armidale

[Grimario]

He started upfront for the B team in the game in Armidale

Did you get to the game? If so, at ground report, please. Make it half as entertaining as MFKS and his Brazil diary and you're onto a winner.

[RAM]

Evan kostopoulos and Alex smith now trialling this week in case anyone hasn't read the herald today.
Kostopoulos winger/striker that got let go when gombau took over and brought in his spaniards. I thought he had potential but alas gombau had to make room.
I think most people know about smith. Wiki has him scoring 45 goals from 44 games at fnq fury the last couple of season. Can play anywhere in the front 2/3rds basically.

Kostopoulos never got much time at AU. IIRC he played in a couple of ACL games. Lanky striker who never looked particularly dangerous. Another squaddie when we need more quality.

[RAM]

Did you get to the game? If so, at ground report, please. Make it half as entertaining as MFKS and his Brazil diary and you're onto a winner.

Nah, baby was sick. Two teammates played for the B's though so I'll ask them how he was. From what I heard the B's didn't touch the ball much, and the intensity was very high.

[Jeterpool]

and the intensity was very high.

Good to hear

[Grimario]

Kostopoulos never got much time at AU. IIRC he played in a couple of ACL games. Lanky striker who never looked particularly dangerous. Another squaddie when we need more quality.

From an Adelaide fan... "He did nothing. Scored two tap ins against MV and did nothing else in his other 20 games. Only got time because his dad was best mates with Kosmina"

[The Postman]

2 more trialist, seems to be an abundance of them this year.

With the squad at 18 + 2 Visa Guys hopefully, it seems Miller wants 1 more back up Attacker.

Which is a worry cause we are incredibly short of numbers in CM and LB/RB. Unless we are playing a revolutionary 325 formation.

[Jeterpool]

What is the maximum squad size? I guess the salary cap situation will determine if we can fill all positions.

Is Cowburn still trialing with the club? It's looking less and less likely to me that he will get picked up.

[RAM]

https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11781678_928886283836844_6803216129702531231_n.jpg ?oh=d100fad9f3bbd6943c248e8689a7eef8&oe=5645C0F0

https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11822399_928886267170179_6519415066017632158_n.jpg ?oh=0c8aa87bcd4162e14f071c6a8d518cf2&oe=5637EE11

Teams from the game in Armidale....

[Grimario]

What is the maximum squad size? I guess the salary cap situation will determine if we can fill all positions.

Is Cowburn still trialing with the club? It's looking less and less likely to me that he will get picked up.

Didn't the Dishonourable Member say that Cowburn was on an NYL contract which means he is still "contracted" to the club but only gets match payments, not a senior contract where he has his guaranteed 45k a year or whatever it is for U23?

[pv4]

What is the maximum squad size?

26 if 3 of them are on NYL contracts.

[Tommyjet]

2 more trialist, seems to be an abundance of them this year.

With the squad at 18 + 2 Visa Guys hopefully, it seems Miller wants 1 more back up Attacker.


Which is a worry cause we are incredibly short of numbers in CM and LB/RB. Unless we are playing a revolutionary 325 formation.

Cm- Watson, poljak, kanta and possibly Alex smith who played there mostly at phoenix

[The Postman]

What is the maximum squad size? I guess the salary cap situation will determine if we can fill all positions.

Is Cowburn still trialing with the club? It's looking less and less likely to me that he will get picked up.

23 + 3 NYL Trainees (Lundy is 1)

But Miller and Co said 21 is more likely cause of the Cap situation.

[Jetmaster]

Really hope Kanta and Cooper "come of age" this season.

[R Ramjet]

I really think Kanta has fizzled out and wont be in the a-league once his current deal expires. I think cooper might step up to the plate this season tho

[RAM]

I really think Kanta has fizzled out and wont be in the a-league once his current deal expires. I think cooper might step up to the plate this season tho

x2

Kanta never fulfilled his potential

To think Bayern were reportedly interested when he was 17

[Jeterpool]

x2

Kanta never fulfilled his potential

To think Bayern were reportedly interested when he was 17

May have been a completely different player if Bayern got their hands on him, to be fair.

[The Dunster]

Injuries are what has troubled Kanta. He's still got plenty of time to overcome the injuries and get back to his best.
In saying that Taj Minecon was far and away the best player I had seen in the NYL and he fell out of orbit and has been floating in space ever since.

[pv4]

Injuries are what has troubled Kanta. He's still got plenty of time to overcome the injuries and get back to his best.

The problem I've noticed is with each injury, whether it be a legit injury or a punched-in nose or whatever, Kanta seems to be getting slower. I don't know whether the injuries have led to this, or if he's just getting slower due to his size/weight variations over time, or whether I'm just making it up in my head. But he seems distinctly slower than back in his Magic, and early-HAL days, and I find that a detriment to his game nowadays.

Note that I realise the irony of me saying this, when I myself have been likened to Per Mertesacker, who has been accused to turn slower than milk.

[The Dunster]

The problem I've noticed is with each injury, whether it be a legit injury or a punched-in nose or whatever, Kanta seems to be getting slower. I don't know whether the injuries have led to this, or if he's just getting slower due to his size/weight variations over time, or whether I'm just making it up in my head. But he seems distinctly slower than back in his Magic, and early-HAL days, and I find that a detriment to his game nowadays.

I think his mobility is an issue. He used to close players down very quickly giving them no time on the ball. In more recent times he's not puting the pressure on the opposition as much.

[Jeterpool]

I think his mobility is an issue. He used to close players down very quickly giving them no time on the ball. In more recent times he's not puting the pressure on the opposition as much.

I agree. If there is a problem with his physical condition I think he is surrounded by the right people to sort out the right body composition for him.

[RAM]

Injuries are what has troubled Kanta. He's still got plenty of time to overcome the injuries and get back to his best.
In saying that Taj Minecon was far and away the best player I had seen in the NYL and he fell out of orbit and has been floating in space ever since.

At 23 I reckon he is fast running out of time to go above the level he is at.

[stopper2]

^^^^
There are some similarities between Kanta and Jobe's careers. Both showed a lot of potential as teenagers but it seems that every season there was either a prolonged lay-off (Jobe's ankles, Kanta's knees) or niggling injuries which have prevented them both from rarely playing a full season and therefore really cementing themselves as A League players. This is probably Kanta's last chance to take his game to the next level, he needs to stay injury-free and become a mainstay of the first XI otherwise like Jobe he will probably end up back in NPL.

[plague]

^^^^
There are some similarities between Kanta and Jobe's careers. Both showed a lot of potential as teenagers but it seems that every season there was either a prolonged lay-off (Jobe's ankles, Kanta's knees) or niggling injuries which have prevented them both from rarely playing a full season and therefore really cementing themselves as A League players. This is probably Kanta's last chance to take his game to the next level, he needs to stay injury-free and become a mainstay of the first XI otherwise like Jobe he will probably end up back in NPL.


oh man is Kanta really only 23??? jesus it feels like he's been here forever. If it is his body thats failed him thats really sad. Hopefully it is just a coaching adjustment that might inspire him back to his best.
i really want to see him succeed. always seemed like a decent fella and a logical captain.

does anyone know how old Jobe was when he left? and wasn't it more to do with frustration with GVE/Middleby rather than injury?
i always thought he was vastly underrated at our club, and was playing good football right up until he left.

might be remembering things different though.

[tomo]

oh man is Kanta really only 23??? jesus it feels like he's been here forever. If it is his body thats failed him thats really sad. Hopefully it is just a coaching adjustment that might inspire him back to his best.
i really want to see him succeed. always seemed like a decent fella and a logical captain.

does anyone know how old Jobe was when he left? and wasn't it more to do with frustration with GVE/Middleby rather than injury?
i always thought he was vastly underrated at our club, and was playing good football right up until he left.

might be remembering things different though.

I think he was about 27...

Didnt he leave because he was captain but was then told by GVE mid-season that he wont be retained, so he spat the dummy (and rightfully so) and quit there and then...?
I could be wrong, but thats what i remember of it

[Premy]

oh man is Kanta really only 23??? jesus it feels like he's been here forever. If it is his body thats failed him thats really sad. Hopefully it is just a coaching adjustment that might inspire him back to his best.
i really want to see him succeed. always seemed like a decent fella and a logical captain.

does anyone know how old Jobe was when he left? and wasn't it more to do with frustration with GVE/Middleby rather than injury?
i always thought he was vastly underrated at our club, and was playing good football right up until he left.

might be remembering things different though.

I think Jobe was 28 when he departed

[scarfy96]

Big difference I have noted about the Jets this pre-season is there have been no player promises or rumours.

Recent years have been dominated by rumours and speculation and promises of players about to sign and lots of names being linked to the club.

This year silence. Sauce has dried up.

Pretty much the first inkling we get of anyone is a day or so before hand when it is really just formalities to finish off.

Still nothing from the club re "No 9 and 10" positions other than they are closing in on 1 and still looking for the other.

While I would like those positions filled (ideally already filled!) I must admit I do like the professionalism of the approach to player recruitment this season compared to any in living memory.

That said I am checking the papers every day hoping for a sniff of something!!

[The Dunster]

Paul Wanchope. He's been retired for eight years, and has chronic knee problems. On paper that's a tick in every box for a Jets marquee siging.

[RAM]

Paul Wanchope. He's been retired for eight years, and has chronic knee problems. On paper that's a tick in every box for a Jets marquee siging.

:rof:

[Grimario]

If it was 2 years ago, I would totally expect that.

[plague]

Paul Wanchope. He's been retired for eight years, and has chronic knee problems. On paper that's a tick in every box for a Jets marquee siging.
Can his dad coach?

[Grimario]

Burgess on the bench for Sydney tonight.

[JetRift]

Burgess on the bench for Sydney tonight.

Signed with their youth team last week

[Grimario]

Signed with their youth team last week

What a wanker.

[matty]

Scored their second off the bench too

[tomo]

Marko Jesic scored too

[plague]

Marko Jesic scored too
and he's rocking one of those stupid pony tail things sticking out the top of his bonce too.

Glad we got rid of him TBH.

[WolfMan]

I thought he was worth a shot. Especially with the assumption of the small wage he would command.

Good luck to him in his second stint at Sydney

[Tommyjet]

I thought he was worth a shot. Especially with the assumption of the small wage he would command.

Good luck to him in his second stint at Sydney

I think burgess was more of a no10 than a wide player. Having cooper and baressi as young 10's and bringing in a visa 10 I think is why he wasn't signed. I agree though, decent prospect.

[MFKS]

I think burgess was more of a no10 than a wide player. Having cooper and baressi as young 10's and bringing in a visa 10 I think is why he wasn't signed. I agree though, decent prospect.

No offence but from what I have seen of Baressi in the Yoof I see little reason why we have him.

I know he is coming off a serious injury.

But I see little prospect in him moving forward

[The Camel]

No offence but from what I have seen of Baressi in the Yoof I see little reason why we have him.

I know he is coming off a serious injury.

But I see little prospect in him moving forward

Muppet signed him to a 2 year deal so we had no choice but to keep him. If he were trialling against Burgess it may've been a different outcome.

[Tommyjet]

No offence but from what I have seen of Baressi in the Yoof I see little reason why we have him.

I know he is coming off a serious injury.

But I see little prospect in him moving forward
Even discounting baressi, probably enough cover there once miller signs the reported foreign 10

[tomo]

Any news on what happened against the mariners last night? Everything seems pretty quiet... Surely we didnt go that bad that its too embarrasing tp let everyone know...

Pretty disappointed with the Eland announcement... I just dont trust him at all. Id take Murphy over him

[Jetmaster]

Game behind closed doors yesterday afternoon - Mariners squad won 2-1, its elsewhere on here and was on the news last night.

[RAM]

Who were the scorers?

[RAM]

Why do we play 'friendlies' against those ****sticks?

[tomo]

Game behind closed doors yesterday afternoon - Mariners squad won 2-1, its elsewhere on here and was on the news last night.

Thanks mate. I knew it was behind closed doors, just didnt know why the result has been kept so quiet

[Jetmaster]

Probably because as a training game it had no real significance...Hutcho might have run on in a Jets shirt for all we know.

[RAM]

Probably because as a training game it had no real significance...Hutcho might have run on in a Jets shirt for all we know.

I just vomited.

[Grimario]

I just vomited.

Even he didn't want to be seen in a Palm Tree shirt.

[lquiquer]

Why do we play 'friendlies' against those ****sticks?

Exactly.....That I don't understand. We should despise them, instead they prob had a good chat and a good laugh before and after the game (If not during the game)!!!!! FFS...... Never heard of Lazio / Roma, River / Boca or PSG / OM friendly pre-season gathering behind close door

[Roundball Enthusiast]

If we're getting new owners soon™, I would think we'd be holding out until they come in before we sign our 9 and 10... Which would leave a very short period for pre-season training/team chemistry.. I can't see FFA forking out money for players then having new owners come in..

[tomo]

If we're getting new owners soon™, I would think we'd be holding out until they come in before we sign our 9 and 10... Which would leave a very short period for pre-season training/team chemistry.. I can't see FFA forking out money for players then having new owners come in..

The 9 and 10 we're chasing will be under the cap. If we sign them, then new owners come in, theres still room for 2 marquees outside of the cap if a new owner decides to cough up the coin

[borat]

The 9 and 10 we're chasing will be under the cap. If we sign them, then new owners come in, theres still room for 2 marquees outside of the cap if a new owner decides to cough up the coin

Not if they are Visa players. If new owners are imminent then wait and see is a better approach. This would have been part of the discussions anyway

[hawk]

The 9 and 10 we're chasing will be under the cap. If we sign them, then new owners come in, theres still room for 2 marquees outside of the cap if a new owner decides to cough up the coin

the new owners will probs be giving us some scottish imports. arrrhct

[lquiquer]

the new owners will probs be giving us some scottish imports. arrrhct

Wouldn't mind "A" like Dalglish And "A" like Souness........"A" like Billy Bremner would be fine too....

[The Postman]

FFA Cup Squad

1. Mark Birighitti
2. Daniel Mullen
3. Jason Hoffman
4. Nigel Boogaard
5. Ben Kantarovski
6. Cameron Watson
7. Enver Alivodic
8. Mateo Poljak
11. Labinot Halti
13. Lee Ki-Ji
14. Mitch Cooper
15. Themba Muata-Marlow
16. Nick Cowburn
17. Radan Pavicevic
18. Josh Baressi
19. Andrew Pawiak
20. Ben Kennedy
21. Michael Kantarvoski
22. Lachlan Jackson
23. David Carney
25. Brandon Lundy
## Braedyn Crowley

Brennan not eligible because he played for South Hobart in the early stages of the Cup.

First time in memory we have a full strength squad available with no injury concerns going into the season. Knock on wood.

[Premy]

Just looking at the full squad list, I know we have Muata-Marlow as a back up CB but I think Kanta may be someone who will fill in there also this season.

[BodyNovo]

Number 9 saved for griff on his return

[Mark325]

Considering Perth wont have Covic or Castro I'd say we're in with a chance to win this

[borat]

Just looking at the full squad list, I know we have Muata-Marlow as a back up CB but I think Kanta may be someone who will fill in there also this season.

We have Jackson as well so doubt Kanata will spend any time at CB. More than needed at DM where we are short.

[Fairgo]

Cowburn played with yoof today did not travel to Melbourne??? After watching the yoof for a few years now I find it hard to believe they have not pushed Papas on to the next level another kid they are going to stuff up. Seems as though he is a gap stopper/filler is played in a different position every couple of weeks, can not see how that is good for ones development? When in midfield by far a stand out but does not seem to get that opportunity often. On Memory from last year he was up there with player of the year NPL playing midfield then was moved back to CD with a few games to go. NYL season played RB and some CD I think. This year NPL all over the place???

[stopper2]

Cowburn played with yoof today did not travel to Melbourne??? After watching the yoof for a few years now I find it hard to believe they have not pushed Papas on to the next level another kid they are going to stuff up. Seems as though he is a gap stopper/filler is played in a different position every couple of weeks, can not see how that is good for ones development? When in midfield by far a stand out but does not seem to get that opportunity often. On Memory from last year he was up there with player of the year NPL playing midfield then was moved back to CD with a few games to go. NYL season played RB and some CD I think. This year NPL all over the place???

When you have a young player like Papas who was representing Australia at U/17 level as a CM you would think that his club would be developing him in that position but no this is the Jets we're talking about here. We then reward the man who has been in charge of "preparing" our Youth players for the next step up for the past few years with the position of Acting Football Manager!

[plague]

When you have a young player like Papas who was representing Australia at U/17 level as a CM you would think that his club would be developing him in that position but no this is the Jets we're talking about here. We then reward the man who has been in charge of "preparing" our Youth players for the next step up for the past few years with the position of Acting Football Manager!

We da best at that.
Andrew Hoole anyone????

[cobra23]

We da best at that.
Andrew Hoole anyone????

I cant wait to watch hooley tear a new ass hole in us .

[The Dunster]

We da best at that.
Andrew Hoole anyone????

The club was never in a position to sign Hoole so he went to a club where his situation was more secure.
A loss yes but anyone that thinks he's going to be a superstar of the game is having themselves on.

[pv4]

The club was never in a position to sign Hoole so he went to a club where his situation was more secure.
A loss yes but anyone that thinks he's going to be a superstar of the game is having themselves on.

Tinkler took a giant dump on two of Hoole's best mates in the squad, and he lost faith in the club and saw no light at the end of the tunnel so took what was a good offer presented to him.

I genuinely believe he will be a superstar, so I guess I'm having myself on.

[plague]

The club was never in a position to sign Hoole so he went to a club where his situation was more secure.
A loss yes but anyone that thinks he's going to be a superstar of the game is having themselves on.

Nah, it is more about the fact that anyone who saw him in that GF killing it in the mids knew the Jets had a chance at something especially when they have had no decent kids for ages yet he got put in every other position then prob thought screw it I'm out, then once he was lost they gave him a few games in his best position and he prob played his best football.

Superstar? Dunno, but somehow he stepped up a level and the club made him worse and still have the same holes in the team as when we originally signed him.

Yay Jets.

[The Dunster]

Tinkler took a giant dump on two of Hoole's best mates in the squad, and he lost faith in the club and saw no light at the end of the tunnel so took what was a good offer presented to him.

I genuinely believe he will be a superstar, so I guess I'm having myself on.

I don't think Hoole will ever be as good as Nicky Carle at his peak - and as much as I like Nicky Carle he wasn't a superstar either.

Moreover, if Hoole cares about how his mates are treated then professional sport may not be for him. It's a business. You do whatever you can to get to the top and let nobody stand in your way. Sad but more often than not that's how things work.

[stopper2]

Nah, it is more about the fact that anyone who saw him in that GF killing it in the mids knew the Jets had a chance at something especially when they have had no decent kids for ages yet he got put in every other position then prob thought screw it I'm out, then once he was lost they gave him a few games in his best position and he prob played his best football.

Superstar? Dunno, but somehow he stepped up a level and the club made him worse and still have the same holes in the team as when we originally signed him.

Yay Jets.

Not always I agree with you Plaguey but you are spot on here. He came to the Youth team from Magic as a #10 yet for about the next 18 months he was played predominantly as a RB, where he made his debut for the seniors. Everyone knows the story and I've already repeated it a couple of times myself but who knows we had a talented kid here who had the potential to maybe be our best attacking player since Halpin and the club blew it big time.

[The Dunster]

If he's a genuine superstar he would have been tearing the NYL up no matter where he played. He didn't.

And I'm not pissing on Hoole either I think he's a talented footballer but he's not a superstar.

[Grimario]

If he's a genuine superstar he would have been tearing the NYL up no matter where he played. He didn't.

And I'm not pissing on Hoole either I think he's a talented footballer but he's not a superstar.

Yeah, because Lionel Messi would make such a wonderful central defender.

[plague]

If he's a genuine superstar he would have been tearing the NYL up no matter where he played. He didn't.

And I'm not pissing on Hoole either I think he's a talented footballer but he's not a superstar.

Yeah superstar or not the way he was dealt with says way more about the club than it does the player.

[plague]

Not always I agree with you Plaguey but you are spot on here.

You should agree with me more often as you'll find it coincides with you being right more often as well.

[The Dunster]

Yeah, because Lionel Messi would make such a wonderful central defender.

Hoole was used in various positions in the Youth team and while capable he did not stand out as being a class above everyone else.

With respect to Messi I totally disagree with you. While he might not have suited the role of a central defender as soon as he started to move forward with the ball or received a pass people would have known he was special.

It still doesn't mean I think the way Hoole was used by the club was fair either. Then again, Hoole is in a long list of players the Jets have tried to play in positions that did not suit them,
GVE for example tried to make a striker out of a defensive midfielder and the kid copped shit from you lot because he couldn't score goals.

[lil_masi]

Hoole was used in various positions in the Youth team and while capable he did not stand out as being a class above everyone else.

With respect to Messi I totally disagree with you. While he might not have suited the role of a central defender as soon as he started to move forward with the ball or received a pass people would have known he was special.

It still doesn't mean I think the way Hoole was used by the club was fair either. Then again, Hoole is in a long list of players the Jets have tried to play in positions that did not suit them,
GVE for example tried to make a striker out of a defensive midfielder and the kid copped shit from you lot because he couldn't score goals.

Mooy?

[The Dunster]

Yes.

[R Ramjet]

all is quiet on player signing news not even the usual rumours of names being thrown around. its kinda boring actually. Discussions are either being done extremely professionally and discreetly or there arnt any discussions at all. Usually some names get mentioned tho but all is quiet zzzzzz

[Jetmaster]

Much more professional that deals are not being leaked before they are actually done (Paartalu anyone?)

Mike Cockerill did put out the rumour last week that the number 10 was a done deal but won't get announced straight away.

[The Camel]

Much more professional that deals are not being leaked before they are actually done (Paartalu anyone?)

Mike Cockerill did put out the rumour last week that the number 10 was a done deal but won't get announced straight away.

I hope that is the case and we are waiting for Visa's etc. to be granted and the guy being on the plane before announcing the signing. Be a nice change than an announcement then waiting 2 months to see if the guy will arrive

[Tommyjet]

Much more professional that deals are not being leaked before they are actually done (Paartalu anyone?)

Mike Cockerill did put out the rumour last week that the number 10 was a done deal but won't get announced straight away.
May be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 but I think the new owners will be announced and the new number 10 will be tied in with that, ie not necessarily fitting within the cap.

[plague]

all is quiet on player signing news not even the usual rumours of names being thrown around. its kinda boring actually. Discussions are either being done extremely professionally and discreetly or there arnt any discussions at all. Usually some names get mentioned tho but all is quiet zzzzzz

just post some made up stuff on here, and before you know it you'll be reading about it in the Herald.

[Tommyjet]

Boring.

Won't someone come up with a rumour please? Even a fake one will do

[lquiquer]

Boring.

Won't someone come up with a rumour please? Even a fake one will do

Gourcuff is the 10 we signing

[The Camel]

Gourcuff is the 10 we signing

I heard it was Troisi and Oar

[GazFish35]

Wanchope

[GazFish35]

Jose Antonio Reyes

[GazFish35]

Murray Fletcher

[pv4]

Jose Antonio Reyes

Funny thing is I've legitimately been contemplating this for a while now..

Would want marquee wages though.

[Tommyjet]

Fernando belluschi

[Tommyjet]

Funny thing is I've legitimately been contemplating this for a while now..

Would want marquee wages though.

Captained sevilla in the super cup against barca am I right?
I don't think he's our man

[The Camel]

Mario Ballotelli Up front

[q-money]

#robinho2newy

[Tommyjet]

Manu del moral

[GazFish35]

Shevchenko

[Mark325]

Peter Crouch

[Beeen]

Pizzarro
Berbatov
Andy Johnson

[Jeterpool]

Dexter Rosales

[foti68]

Much more professional that deals are not being leaked before they are actually done (Paartalu anyone?)

Mike Cockerill did put out the rumour last week that the number 10 was a done deal but won't get announced straight away.

I have heard from a pretty reliable source that there will be no more signing announcements until after the ownership deal for the club is finalized. Hopefully it will be all sorted by the end of the month.

[Premy]

I heard it was Troisi and OarThere actually may be some truth to his, Troisi was spotted at Honeysuckle this morning.

[Retro Jet]

There actually may be some truth to his, Troisi was spotted at Honeysuckle this morning.

Now THAT'S juicy...if it's true. :)

[Tommyjet]

I have heard from a pretty reliable source that there will be no more signing announcements until after the ownership deal for the club is finalized. Hopefully it will be all sorted by the end of the month.

Fits in with what I have heard also

[Tommyjet]

There actually may be some truth to his, Troisi was spotted at Honeysuckle this morning.

Without de marigny here I doubt he would even consider us but since they worked together at victory there may be a bond to exploit there.

[Premy]

Now THAT'S juicy...if it's true. :)
I'm not 100% convinced as the person who told me isn't a big football fan and their exact words were "pretty sure I just saw that dude who scored the winning goal of the Asian Cup at Honeysuckle with some suits this morning"

Is Jets HQ at Wickham still? It would make sense that a meeting over brunch to be at Honeysuckle if that's the case.

[Premy]

Without de marigny here I doubt he would even consider us but since they worked together at victory there may be a bond to exploit there.
I didn't even think of that connection.

[plague]

saw him at Bunnings buying some paint and rollers. can only mean he's brought a place and is doing a bit of work before moving in.

[Jeterpool]

I'm not 100% convinced as the person who told me isn't a big football fan and their exact words were "pretty sure I just saw that dude who scored the winning goal of the Asian Cup at Honeysuckle with some suits this morning"

Is Jets HQ at Wickham still? It would make sense that a meeting over brunch to be at Honeysuckle if that's the case.

Jets offices are now in honeysuckle near squires maiden

[joel31]

Dexter Rosales
destined to happen

[joel31]

Troisi would be a good buy

[GazFish35]

Troisi would be a good buy

Captain obvious is getting slow

[parksey]

what happened to his club in belgium? i thought he was killing it

[pv4]

what happened to his club in belgium? i thought he was killing it

He was on loan in Belgium, from Juve. His career was always extremely weird because of his Juve contract status.