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lquiquer
19-08-2015, 09:53 PM
So I'm lost now !!!!?? Is he still contracted to Juve? Or Free Agent?
parksey
19-08-2015, 11:00 PM
He was on loan in Belgium, from Juve. His career was always extremely weird because of his Juve contract status.
oh yeah that's right
So I'm lost now !!!!?? Is he still contracted to Juve? Or Free Agent?
Free agent now afaik
Free agent now afaik
But I can't find any links saying this. He must be contracted at Juve still..
Which means the only way any Hal club can get him is by using a marquee spot, as after Troisi and Rogic at MV the ffa changed the loaning system in regards to wages.
leftrightout
20-08-2015, 07:00 AM
But I can't find any links saying this. He must be contracted at Juve still..
Which means the only way any Hal club can get him is by using a marquee spot, as after Troisi and Rogic at MV the ffa changed the loaning system in regards to wages.
Article about the Socceroos squad on Foxsports website yesterday said that he is still contracted to Juve
q-money
20-08-2015, 11:04 AM
saw him at Bunnings buying some paint and rollers. can only mean he's brought a place and is doing a bit of work before moving in.
mate of mine just seen him down dineaway snackin' on a schnitzel
plague
20-08-2015, 11:28 AM
mate of mine just seen him down dineaway snackin' on a schnitzel
Lies.
Jeterpool
20-08-2015, 12:36 PM
mate of mine just seen him down dineaway snackin' on a schnitzel
Lies.
Because he has no mates?
q-money
20-08-2015, 01:55 PM
http://static2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/5575662+_fec9a9e50fd0567654f9972c6418c90f.jpg
plague
20-08-2015, 02:04 PM
Because he has no mates?
I thought Foz rules meant we didn't go after anyone's family?
Jeterpool
20-08-2015, 02:18 PM
http://static2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/5575662+_fec9a9e50fd0567654f9972c6418c90f.jpg
I thought Foz rules meant we didn't go after anyone's family?
Sorry Q-man. We're all mates on here
q-money
20-08-2015, 03:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuQK6t2Esng
Hunter403
20-08-2015, 05:12 PM
How about this bloke?
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/best-aussie-based-striker-not-playing-league
stopper2
20-08-2015, 07:54 PM
Hoole was used in various positions in the Youth team and while capable he did not stand out as being a class above everyone else.
With respect to Messi I totally disagree with you. While he might not have suited the role of a central defender as soon as he started to move forward with the ball or received a pass people would have known he was special.
It still doesn't mean I think the way Hoole was used by the club was fair either. Then again, Hoole is in a long list of players the Jets have tried to play in positions that did not suit them,
GVE for example tried to make a striker out of a defensive midfielder and the kid copped shit from you lot because he couldn't score goals.
I used to watch a lot of Youth games 3 years back and Hoole to me was a "standout" in most of them.....not always but probably more than others but generally when he got the ball there was that sense of expectation that HE was the player to make things happen. Here he was playing RB, he would get the ball well inside his own half facing his own goal with an opposition player on his back. In a split second he would feint to go one way but would quickly spin to go the other way and was away with the ball leaving his opponent in his wake and looking to attack the opposition....and I would be thinking "What the fark is this kid being wasted at RB"!!!!
Retro Jet
20-08-2015, 11:37 PM
How about this bloke?
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/best-aussie-based-striker-not-playing-league
Could be a nice pairing with Andy Brennan. Were they ever team mates?
Tommyjet
21-08-2015, 09:33 AM
So miller has gone from saying te signing of the no.10 is close to now very close. What word will be next, imminent?
If the rumour that no more signings until new owner is in is true, then hopefully we'll see some action in the next week
Roundball Enthusiast
21-08-2015, 10:08 AM
So miller has gone from saying te signing of the no.10 is close to now very close. What word will be next, imminent?
If the rumour that no more signings until new owner is in is true, then hopefully we'll see some action in the next week
How about 12:30 we find out!!! :)
https://twitter.com/NewcastleJetsFC/status/634516583818379264
leftrightout
21-08-2015, 10:38 AM
How about 12:30 we find out!!! :)
https://twitter.com/NewcastleJetsFC/status/634516583818379264
Interesting...
Jetmaster
21-08-2015, 10:38 AM
What a professional way of doing this - kudos.
No rumours (apart from Troisi "sightings").
Some dude on reddit saying we've signed this guy. Looks the goods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1dson
&1gest
21-08-2015, 11:02 AM
could fit the profile "with plenty of points to his credit in some top European leagues"
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3294614/new-attacking-midfielder-for-jets/?cs=12
The Camel
21-08-2015, 11:02 AM
Some dude on reddit saying we've signed this guy. Looks the goods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1dson
Very Random to be complete Bullshit. Be exciting if true
matty
21-08-2015, 11:20 AM
Meredith gibbs saying south american, played in the eredivise...fits the roll
*please note sarcasm included
The Postman
21-08-2015, 11:28 AM
Jadson has still been playing for Corinthians as of last week.
WolfMan
21-08-2015, 11:29 AM
And where's the eredivisie team?
leftrightout
21-08-2015, 11:30 AM
Some dude on reddit saying we've signed this guy. Looks the goods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1dson
Decent goal strike rate for every club he has played at for a number 10... which probably means its complete BS!
lil_masi
21-08-2015, 11:34 AM
That guys has never played in the eredivise
skullboy
21-08-2015, 11:58 AM
Some dude on reddit saying we've signed this guy. Looks the goods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1dson
His wikipedia site says he is already a Jets player so it MUST be true
scarfy96
21-08-2015, 12:07 PM
LOL - edit IP is from Newcastle Australia, funny that!
The Postman
21-08-2015, 12:11 PM
Leandro Bonfim - great Youtube highlights package, not many South Americans have played in the Eredivisie. Doubt its him though, would have been a signing worthy of GVE
q-money
21-08-2015, 12:18 PM
bonfim is just some twitter nonsense i believe
lquiquer
21-08-2015, 12:24 PM
leonardo
The Postman
21-08-2015, 12:25 PM
bonfim is just some twitter nonsense i believe
Another couple random FM guesses - Leonardo Santiago or Jajá
Frodo
21-08-2015, 12:26 PM
James Rodriguez??
WolfMan
21-08-2015, 12:26 PM
Leonardo vitor Santiago. Confirmed via email
Frodo
21-08-2015, 12:28 PM
Nick Carle has Chilean heritage doesn't he? Does that count as a South American No 10?
scarfy96
21-08-2015, 12:34 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_Santiago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFBVewR-vrE
scarfy96
21-08-2015, 12:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhZHywUWFxk
scarfy96
21-08-2015, 12:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMITsKozy7c
scarfy96
21-08-2015, 12:37 PM
His last contract was Nov 2014, that is a long time between matches and he is not expected here till mid September? What is he doing for the next 3-4 weeks?
Let me guess, in true Jets form they will hope to have him match fit by mid season for run into the finals?
Superdylan
21-08-2015, 12:40 PM
His last contract was Nov 2014, that is a long time between matches and he is not expected here till mid September? What is he doing for the next 3-4 weeks?
Let me guess, in true Jets form they will hope to have him match fit by mid season for run into the finals?
That's pretty ****ed
Hopefully he doesn't turn out to be a flop like several of our imports have been.
leftrightout
21-08-2015, 12:42 PM
As well as saying a foreign number 9 is still to be added the herald article says "A former Gold Coast and Wellington Phoenix attacker may also be added to the roster" id be assuming that means Alex Smith who i think is a decent enough player considering the small amount of salary cap we must have!
The Camel
21-08-2015, 12:45 PM
As well as saying a foreign number 9 is still to be added the herald article says "A former Gold Coast and Wellington Phoenix attacker may also be added to the roster" id be assuming that means Alex Smith who i think is a decent enough player considering the small amount of salary cap we must have!
Yeah he trialled with us and Miller said he did well but nothing would be done until the two foreigners were signed and we assessed how much coin was left.
weston
21-08-2015, 12:46 PM
His last contract was Nov 2014, that is a long time between matches and he is not expected here till mid September? What is he doing for the next 3-4 weeks?
Let me guess, in true Jets form they will hope to have him match fit by mid season for run into the finals?
He is probably staying in Europe for the final stages of a major career threatening knee injury rehabilitation programme before coming here.
His last contract was Nov 2014, that is a long time between matches and he is not expected here till mid September? What is he doing for the next 3-4 weeks?
Let me guess, in true Jets form they will hope to have him match fit by mid season for run into the finals?
Enough time to fit in a knee reco ?.
Jetmaster
21-08-2015, 12:48 PM
Hopefully he doesn't turn out to be a flop like several of our imports have been.
http://www.jrj-socrates.com/Cartoon%20Pics/Hanna%20Barbera/HB%20Misc/Hardy_Har_Har_301.gif
Didn't take long for the naysayers to come out - maybe he doesn't get paid till the new owners come on board or summat.
R Ramjet
21-08-2015, 12:49 PM
Leonardo isn't signed as a marquee player so I don't think we should be too critical until weve seen him play a few games. He might still have a point to prove to land one last contract elsewhere so he might be a good signing for us if hes fit
scarfy96
21-08-2015, 01:01 PM
Leonardo isn't signed as a marquee player so I don't think we should be too critical until weve seen him play a few games. He might still have a point to prove to land one last contract elsewhere so he might be a good signing for us if hes fit
My concern is that by the time he arrive here he wont have played a game for 10 months! And not because of an injury either.
q-money
21-08-2015, 01:15 PM
how is it people reckon the a-league is anyway comparable to a proper european league
this bloke will piss it in, hand us the trophy now idiots, it's over
Grimario
21-08-2015, 01:15 PM
I see he is listed as a winger... Is this part of our plan to have three players in Carney, Alivodic and Leonardo capable of playing pretty much across the attacking mid part of the pitch to always be able to mix it up?
Guerny
21-08-2015, 01:17 PM
he's obviously heard how good the mango trays are and is just waiting for them to ripen up a bit more...
q-money
21-08-2015, 01:20 PM
how long before this bloke is seen playing the pokies down at wallsend diggers at tuesday lunchtime?
GazFish35
21-08-2015, 01:22 PM
how is it people reckon the a-league is anyway comparable to a proper european league
this bloke will piss it in, hand us the trophy now idiots, it's over
this.
uncle Pim was right, and still is.
Leandro apparently signed in Brazil in February but was released a few days later because of how unfit he is.
Seems like Miller has a decent job ahead of him!
How many players have come to the HAL direct from Bundesliga 2 though? Berisha? Who else?
scarfy96
21-08-2015, 01:49 PM
How many players have come to the HAL direct from Bundesliga 2 though? Berisha? Who else?
Direct from a 10 month lay off is more the issue.
At least he should come with a good tan so wont have to work on that when he arrives, just maintain it.
leo-nardo proof that if you send out applications to enough teams one will bite
Direct from a 10 month lay off is more the issue.
At least he should come with a good tan so wont have to work on that when he arrives, just maintain it.
Yep - a real worry
Terminated in November 2014
Hopefully he's better than Denni
zorse
21-08-2015, 02:05 PM
So in honor of our new signing should we change the lolz turtles headband to blue instead of orange? for Leonardo. Or wait until he actually does something first?
sammydog
21-08-2015, 02:07 PM
how is it people reckon the a-league is anyway comparable to a proper european league
this bloke will piss it in, hand us the trophy now idiots, it's over
I'm going to agree with this.
I'm actually willing to give Miller the benefit of the doubt that he has done his due diligence on this one, and maybe he thinks he can get him fit.
Someone will quote this in the future if he flops, but I'm calling he is a good signing.
Retro Jet
21-08-2015, 03:22 PM
I'm going to agree with this.
I'm actually willing to give Miller the benefit of the doubt that he has done his due diligence on this one, and maybe he thinks he can get him fit.
Someone will quote this in the future if he flops, but I'm calling he is a good signing.
Arnold is probably already plotting how to nobble the poor bharstard...
Beeen
21-08-2015, 03:49 PM
how long before this bloke is seen playing the pokies down at wallsend diggers at tuesday lunchtime?
quits coz of how shit tha dingas r
scarfy96
21-08-2015, 03:50 PM
Certainly not afraid to run at people and puts on a decent pass, assuming he is fit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZO0GbGs8k4
lil_masi
21-08-2015, 04:18 PM
Certainly not afraid to run at people and puts on a decent pass, assuming he is fit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZO0GbGs8k4
That's a better more recent package. Can see him playing the #10 position which we'll be using him in. His earlier packages are mostly as a winger.
Tommyjet
21-08-2015, 04:47 PM
I am much underwhelmed but obviously hope he changes my mind. Good pedigree and all that but 10 months out of the game and the wrong side of 30 for a visa of his calibre. I know it's the jerks and it's the a-league but the signings by all clubs this offseason have possibly stalled the progress of the league IMO.
I hope to be corrected.
Please just be better than that joke Sidnei at perth
lil_masi
21-08-2015, 05:28 PM
From SMH
By VINCE RUGARI
Newcastle Jets coach Scott Miller believes he's on a winner with new import signing Leonardo.
The 32-year-old Brazilian has joined the Jets on a one-year contract and boasts the arguably the best resume of any overseas player at the club since Emile Heskey, with more than a decade of experience in the Dutch top flight.
A classic No.10 who can also play in wide areas or as a second striker, left-footer Leonardo is a product of the Feyenoord youth system and won the UEFA Cup with the Eredivisie in 2002, before moving to NAC Breda and then European powerhouse Ajax.
However, over the last four seasons he has struggled for game time, and was unable to become a first-team regular at Red Bull Salzburg of Austria, Hungarian club Ferencváros or second-tier German outfit 1860 Munich.
In fact, he has not played a senior match in nearly a year, having taken time away from the game after falling out with his last coach.
Miller said his recent history made Leonardo a "hungry" player - one who he reckons can call the shots in the final third for a new-look Newcastle side equally desperate to move on from last season's wooden spoon and the dark days of the Tinkler regime.
"Not only just his CV but the ability, and the passion he's shown on the telephone, and then the references and (his) research on the club and the squad and the environment... he's focused on joining us and he's looking forward to it," Miller said.
Leonardo is not due to land in Australia until mid-September but Miller had no concerns over his fitness, having told him he must be ready to play upon arrival.
"He'll have to be. I'm demanding that from him," he said.
"I speak to him every week and he's actually been undertaking a program for three to four weeks now that we've put in place for him.
"He's sent video clips of him training as well and he's looking well."
Leonardo was in reasonably high demand, with reports from abroad linking him with a move to Spanish La Liga club Real Betis before he settled on an A-League sea change.
His signing almost brings Newcastle's off-season recruitment drive to a close, with Miller seeking only one more player - a line-leading centre forward. The Jets have four foreign players on their books, leaving room for one more.
Meanwhile, SBS is reporting the sale of the Jets to a consortium headed by Dundee United owner Stephen Thomson is imminent.
Thomson is said to be due in Sydney to finalise a $4 million deal with FFA to take over the Newcastle club, which would free the governing body to intervene at Brisbane Roar should that club's sale fall through.
joel31
21-08-2015, 05:30 PM
If hes fit he'll be fantastic. If he hasn't looked after his body in those 10 months out of the game he'll be our next Jardel
GazFish35
21-08-2015, 05:45 PM
Millertime and jonesey will whip him into shape.
Excited by this tbh.
He's no pirlo or lampard, but that level of marquee player will now always go to mls.
He's played at the top level in Europe, he'll win games for us in his sleep.
Retro Jet
21-08-2015, 05:46 PM
If hes fit he'll be fantastic. If he hasn't looked after his body in those 10 months out of the game he'll be our next Jardel
Feck...NOBODY could be that fat...bar Ronaldo :lol:
plague
21-08-2015, 06:13 PM
don't all Sth Americans hate being bossed around?
stopper2
21-08-2015, 08:01 PM
Millertime and jonesey will whip him into shape.
Excited by this tbh.
He's no pirlo or lampard, but that level of marquee player will now always go to mls.
He's played at the top level in Europe, he'll win games for us in his sleep.
Big call Gaz but I just get a gut-feeling with Miller that he wouldn't have signed Leonardo if he was a dud and unfit etc. like a few on here are indicating.
All we need now is a quality #9 and we may yet challenge for that 6th spot that has eluded us for so long....LOL
westjet
21-08-2015, 08:29 PM
Millertime and jonesey will whip him into shape.
Excited by this tbh.
He's no pirlo or lampard, but that level of marquee player will now always go to mls.
He's played at the top level in Europe, he'll win games for us in his sleep.
+1
Just needs the griffo endorsement and he will be the next newy superstar.
I seem to be putting him in the Carlos Hernandez mould...
lquiquer
21-08-2015, 09:25 PM
We should all call him Leo from now on.....hoping he will be our Messi
GazFish35
21-08-2015, 09:32 PM
Check out the dudes Instagram.
He's fit.
Muscles on muscles.
Think "condom full of potatoes"
I seem to be putting him in the Carlos Hernandez mould...
Good for local KFC's and there profit outlook then
Retro Jet
21-08-2015, 11:45 PM
This is the true Leonardo of course...
1132
sammydog
22-08-2015, 12:11 AM
I'm just stoked to be able to buy a jets jersey with my name on the back.
The Dunster
22-08-2015, 08:09 AM
how is it people reckon the a-league is anyway comparable to a proper european league
this bloke will piss it in, hand us the trophy now idiots, it's over
I think the only reason he left 1860 Munich was that his coach was sacked and the new coach that came in didn't want to play him for reasons which don't appear to be form related. Prior to that he'd played 8 games and scored twice.
Agree with Q - this bloke will absolutely kill the A-league. Great signing.
belchardo
22-08-2015, 09:06 AM
And if he doesn't, We've only signed him for one year. I'm pretty comfortable with this signing.
joel31
22-08-2015, 09:50 AM
With this side we can definitely put up a greater challenge then previous seasons
http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2015/08/1319835_Newcastle_Jets.jpg
Jetmaster
22-08-2015, 10:35 AM
And if he doesn't, We've only signed him for one year. I'm pretty comfortable with this signing.
Yeah but if he does kill it he'll be poached by the Smurfs in a heartbeat.
belchardo
22-08-2015, 02:10 PM
Yeah but if he does kill it he'll be poached by the Smurfs in a heartbeat.
nah, we'll be richer than them in a few weeks :lulzturtle:
Jeterpool
22-08-2015, 05:45 PM
I guess Leonardo is in the same sort of boat as David Carney in terms of not playing for an extended period of 8 months in Carney's case. Carney has come back looking very fit and hungry.
Different reason for their break, sure, but let's hope Leonardo has the same desire
GazFish35
22-08-2015, 06:21 PM
Reading his Instagram he looks to have the right mindset, no Jonny Steele repeats.
Caveat: my Portuguese stinks.
stopper2
22-08-2015, 07:05 PM
With this side we can definitely put up a greater challenge then previous seasons
http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2015/08/1319835_Newcastle_Jets.jpg
I think at this stage that is probably our strongest lineup with the back four virtually picking themselves and Poljak and Watson the logical choices in the middle considering Kanta is coming back from groin surgery. I would switch Carney and Alivodic however as Carney looked pretty effective playing on the right and cutting in but mainly because in that Perth game when Enver came on it was clear that he has a good understanding with Leaky Gee. We build on this combination and allow it to flourish it will be a key weapon for us on the left for this coming season.
GazFish35
22-08-2015, 08:05 PM
Remember though carney looked good partly because he was running at warren.
borat
22-08-2015, 08:29 PM
Leandro apparently signed in Brazil in February but was released a few days later because of how unfit he is.
Seems like Miller has a decent job ahead of him!
How many players have come to the HAL direct from Bundesliga 2 though? Berisha? Who else?
Broich, Vidosic (pre Adelaide), Djulbic (pre GCU)
That's not a bad group. It's harder to come up with failures....Tiago is the best I can do
great signing brigade is out in force. waitnsee
lil_masi
23-08-2015, 11:40 AM
once we get our number 9, looking at our squad our weakness i think is RB and CM. RB is obvious, and for CM i rate Poljak but we're lacking a quality second.
scarfy96
24-08-2015, 02:12 PM
I just get a gut-feeling with Miller that he wouldn't have signed Leonardo if he was a dud and unfit etc. like a few on here are indicating.
You are probably referring to me as one of the few here and all I am saying is it is a concern and previous Jets experience backs that up.
HOWEVER, this gives me considerable hope:
Leonardo is not due to land in Australia until mid-September but Miller had no concerns over his fitness, having told him he must be ready to play upon arrival.
"He'll have to be. I'm demanding that from him," he said.
"I speak to him every week and he's actually been undertaking a program for three to four weeks now that we've put in place for him.
"He's sent video clips of him training as well and he's looking well."
If this is indeed the case and he is up to speed on fitness then I will endeavour to restrain my excitement because getting your hopes up and being a Jets supporter rarely go well together.
GazFish35
24-08-2015, 02:46 PM
If this is indeed the case and he is up to speed on fitness then I will endeavour to restrain my excitement because getting your hopes up and being a Jets supporter rarely go well together.
pffft. i got my hopes up about tinkler leaving and it happened eventually
stopper2
25-08-2015, 01:23 PM
pffft. i got my hopes up about tinkler leaving and it happened eventually
.....and the Muppet!
Jeterpool
26-08-2015, 09:59 AM
FourFourTwo rumours saying we are close to signing Alex Smith, who is now an Australian citizen
FourFourTwo rumours saying we are close to signing Alex Smith, who is now an Australian citizen
If we were ambitious enough to use all salary cap/squad size loopholes I'd be confident we could consider Smith to be a Mature Age Rookie and have his salary outside of the cap, plus he not take up a squad spot on the 23man roster.
Buuuut I doubt we need to bother worrying there :rof:
q-money
26-08-2015, 10:50 AM
If we were ambitious enough to use all salary cap/squad size loopholes I'd be confident we could consider Smith to be a Mature Age Rookie and have his salary outside of the cap, plus he not take up a squad spot on the 23man roster.
Buuuut I doubt we need to bother worrying there :rof:
bruv he has played 40 game for the phoenix, he ain't no rookie
but there's some 18 month caveat hey. they shouldn't call it rookie, they should just say old keyunt
bruv he has played 40 game for the phoenix, he ain't no rookie
but there's some 18 month caveat hey. they shouldn't call it rookie, they should just say old keyunt
They should call it the Token NPL Player.
The "old" part isn't even that applicable. It's anyone over 21 years old :rof:
q-money
26-08-2015, 11:06 AM
"bog-standard a-league clogger"
"bog-standard a-league clogger"
Sign him up then
Should fit right in with our players
http://quicklol.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/realists-demotivator.jpg
Jeterpool
26-08-2015, 12:12 PM
http://quicklol.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/realists-demotivator.jpg
I say the glass is excessive for the liquid it's holding
Grimario
26-08-2015, 12:14 PM
I say the glass is excessive for the liquid it's holding
That's my line...
Jeterpool
26-08-2015, 01:15 PM
That's my line...
My bad
Grimario
26-08-2015, 01:28 PM
My bad
See?
No, I'm part of the razor gang. From what I can see, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be and we will be downsizing as a result.
lil_masi
29-08-2015, 11:52 PM
are we signing alex smith?
I know hes been banging in the goals up north but will he be a utility player for us? Backup DM, AM, striker?
Retro Jet
30-08-2015, 12:47 AM
are we signing alex smith?
I know he's been banging in the goals up north but will he be a utility player for us? Backup DM, AM, striker?
Holy snappin' duck sh!t Batman! 46 goals in as many appearances!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Smith_%28footballer,_born_1985%29
joel31
30-08-2015, 08:27 AM
Holy snappin' duck sh!t Batman! 46 goals in as many appearances!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Smith_%28footballer,_born_1985%29
plenty of players score at state league level but can't do much in the a-league
plague
30-08-2015, 10:42 AM
plenty of players score at state league level but can't do much in the a-league
Plenty of players been rubbish at every level, hasn't ever stopped us from signing them.
Give him a contract Tinks.
The Dunster
30-08-2015, 12:39 PM
Why do the club hate the fans so much ? Alex Smith has been tested at this level and he failed. The club shouldn't even waste time returning his calls let alone actually offering him a trial.
parksey
30-08-2015, 03:26 PM
i thought he was pretty decent at the nix
obviously he's no star though and maybe we've already got options at his level in the squad
lil_masi
30-08-2015, 04:34 PM
Why do the club hate the fans so much ? Alex Smith has been tested at this level and he failed. The club shouldn't even waste time returning his calls let alone actually offering him a trial.
How did he fail. Nix fans rated him. But for an import they wanted more thats why he was cut there. Now that he's an Aussie he would be a pretty good player for our squad considering our cap limitations. Can cover a number of positions and would clasify as a mature age rookie.
Tommyjet
31-08-2015, 06:55 PM
We signed joey godee yet
lquiquer
02-09-2015, 09:50 PM
Apparently Da Vinci landing in sydney tomorrow and at training on on Monday......
stopper2
03-09-2015, 02:45 PM
Leaky Gee will be a gun for us this season, heard he is the fittest player in the team and is absolutley tearing it up at training now that he has had a full off-season to prepare. Heard from a journo and another sauce too that the intensity level is unlike anything it has been for a number of years. JPD runs the sessions and constantly drives the players with no let-up, which as a supporter is something you want to here. This season was all about changing the whole approach and mentality of the players and by the sound of it, we are on the right track anyway. Not making any bold predictions or anything just saying what I've heard.
Grimario
03-09-2015, 02:54 PM
Can you imagine how good some of our former great prospects might be with decent fitness?
The Dunster
03-09-2015, 02:57 PM
How did he fail. Nix fans rated him. But for an import they wanted more thats why he was cut there. Now that he's an Aussie he would be a pretty good player for our squad considering our cap limitations. Can cover a number of positions and would clasify as a mature age rookie.
His last two contracts have been in the VPL and playing bush football in North Queensland ffs.
I'd rather see a local given a go rather than bring in someone who had their chance and was relegated back to playing VPL and the like.
Grimario
03-09-2015, 03:04 PM
His last two contracts have been in the VPL and playing bush football in North Queensland ffs.
I'd rather see a local given a go rather than bring in someone who had their chance and was relegated back to playing VPL and the like.
You seem to be missing the point though... he was previously a visa player. When you can only have 5 of them, teams wouldn't go for an average/marginally above average import. Now that he is Australian, he might be seen as a far better option than a local hack.
Who was the last local to score a goal per game in NNSW NPL?
Jeterpool
03-09-2015, 03:10 PM
Can you imagine how good some of our former great prospects might be with decent fitness?
Goodwin, Chapman, Neville.
Maybe Cooper will play 90 minutes for the first time in his Jets career this year!
Grimario
03-09-2015, 03:16 PM
Goodwin, Chapman, Neville.
Maybe Cooper will play 90 minutes for the first time in his Jets career this year!
I was thinking even players still with us like Kanta. He's not looked professional sportsman fit for years.
The Dunster
03-09-2015, 03:34 PM
You seem to be missing the point though... he was previously a visa player. When you can only have 5 of them, teams wouldn't go for an average/marginally above average import. Now that he is Australian, he might be seen as a far better option than a local hack.
Who was the last local to score a goal per game in NNSW NPL?
Herbert cut him half way into the season with the nix so it had sfa to do with him being a visa player.
The Dunster
03-09-2015, 03:41 PM
I was thinking even players still with us like Kanta. He's not looked professional sportsman fit for years.
Injuries have not allowed him to maintain his fitness either. So until he gets over the injuries he won't be able to push himself anyway.
Hunter403
07-09-2015, 12:47 PM
First photo of Leonardo at training. Not wearing the number 9. Either:
1. Club too useless to arrange for correctly numbered training kit to be ready for him, or
2. He has the correct number on and the club is still searching for another number 9.
The truth is out there.....
lil_masi
07-09-2015, 12:55 PM
First photo of Leonardo at training. Not wearing the number 9. Either:
1. Club too useless to arrange for correctly numbered training kit to be ready for him, or
2. He has the correct number on and the club is still searching for another number 9.
The truth is out there.....
The truth is he was signed as our ATTACKING MIDFIELDER not striker. Hence why he wouldnt be our 9.
Tommyjet
07-09-2015, 01:05 PM
The truth is he was signed as our ATTACKING MIDFIELDER not striker. Hence why he wouldnt be our 9.
This
This
And because Lord Griffo will be coming back to reclaim the number 9..
GazFish35
07-09-2015, 01:08 PM
3. Fans jump to wrong conclusion
Jeterpool
07-09-2015, 01:12 PM
Hey, at least he's wearing a kit. It's an improvement on what has been claimed in the past - re: Des Giraldi.
But hey, it's easy to bash the club for everything.
The Postman
07-09-2015, 02:01 PM
There could be 10 reasons why he isn't in the right number
Retro Jet
07-09-2015, 02:06 PM
Leaky Gee will be a gun for us this season, heard he is the fittest player in the team and is absolutley tearing it up at training now that he has had a full off-season to prepare. Heard from a journo and another sauce too that the intensity level is unlike anything it has been for a number of years. JPD runs the sessions and constantly drives the players with no let-up, which as a supporter is something you want to here. This season was all about changing the whole approach and mentality of the players and by the sound of it, we are on the right track anyway. Not making any bold predictions or anything just saying what I've heard.
Mark Jones was running the drills this morning. They were over at Uni No.3
Good level of intensity. Changing around one touch drills with 2 players inside 5 others,
stretches and exercises in between. Looked better that the Stubbins sessions I saw anyway to make a
comparison with. (callin' the Captain??)
Grant Matthews was in the middle of coring both James Watt fields this morning when I had a chat with him.
The lads will be on No3 for the next two weeks, if anyone is interested in having a gander.
GM said JW will be out for that time frame with the renos...
Kick @ss coring machine he has too btw.
Tommyjet
07-09-2015, 06:52 PM
Miller just said on the news that talks are ongoing with a striker but should be resolved in the next 2-3 days. Also said the player is currently playing so he probably means he is currently contracted to a club and they are negotiating a release rather than the player is a current international playing in a friendly or qualifier this international weekend.
Tommyjet
07-09-2015, 06:58 PM
Mark Jones was running the drills this morning. They were over at Uni No.3
Good level of intensity. Changing around one touch drills with 2 players inside 5 others,
stretches and exercises in between. Looked better that the Stubbins sessions I saw anyway to make a
comparison with. (callin' the Captain??)
Grant Matthews was in the mddle of coring both James Watt fields this morning when I had a chat with him.
The lads will be on No3 for the next two weeks, if anyone is interested in having a gander.
GM said JW will be out for that time frame with the renos...
Kick @ss coring machine he has too btw.
Really? I mainly saw JP and miller leading the drills. Jones and I think the physio took Leonardo aside after a while to do some fitness testing.
I must say the combo of miller and JP seems seems very promising. Both pushing them hard but remaining positive when things are as smooth as they would like. Very different to start of last season when I went and couldn't see the muppet but could hear him hurling abuse constantly at any mistake.
Hunter403
07-09-2015, 07:06 PM
Gardiner on twitter agreed on the number thing. He said a number 9 signing will be soon
Grimario
07-09-2015, 07:39 PM
couldn't see the muppet but could hear him hurling abuse constantly at any mistake.
Should have paid attention to a bloke over on whirlpool who said this about Stubbins early last year before he had actually coached a game...
You'll find over time that he talks the talk but can't get his team to walk the walk for him Grim.
He really struggled with Campbelltown City here in SA last year, with a team that on paper should have been in contention to win the whole thing.
That's at a state league level, let alone National. Damien Mori will be the next big coach to come out of Adelaide. He's doing good things with City.
When he played against my team, he was berating his players and yelling and screaming most of the match.
stopper2
08-09-2015, 07:59 PM
^^^^
Yep, it's pretty obvious that Middleby and Baartz did not do their due diligence on Stubbins. I suppose in the end they both done the honourable thing and resigned.
joel31
10-09-2015, 04:50 PM
Is Boogard officially captain? He was in the middle of all the photos
Tommyjet
10-09-2015, 05:45 PM
Is Boogard officially captain? He was in the middle of all the photos
I can't think of a better option but no it's not official yet
stopper2
10-09-2015, 06:47 PM
I can't think of a better option but no it's not official yet
I might be mistaken but i thought it was official about Boogs being captain?
Actually as soon as he was signed months ago I tipped him to be the captain. Wouldn't be surprised if Muppet offered it to him originally but it seems that he is the logical choice anyway and Miller looks to have made his mind up.
I might be mistaken but i thought it was official about Boogs being captain?
Actually as soon as he was signed months ago I tipped him to be the captain. Wouldn't be surprised if Muppet offered it to him originally but it seems that he is the logical choice anyway and Miller looks to have made his mind up.
Nothing is official yet. But i would've thought, and i expected, it would be announced today...
Im just hoping we hear of a new Jets striker tomorrow! Getting excited about the season ahead, we have a pretty solid team this yr, but more importantly, the coaching staff has made a massive difference
Getting excited about the season ahead, we have a pretty solid team this yr, but more importantly, the coaching staff has made a massive difference
Solid team??
I reckon the squad we have this season on paper is massively inferior to the squad muppet assembled at the start of last year.
Last season we had options of Montano Griff Jeronimo up front.
This year our option are Labi and some untried kids.
Chalk and cheese really and I can't see any of our rivals shitting house bricks at the thought of our attack
Miller is gonna need to be a top class coach to drag this side up to scratch with the rest of the teams in the League.
leftrightout
11-09-2015, 08:20 AM
Solid team??
I reckon the squad we have this season on paper is massively inferior to the squad muppet assembled at the start of last year.
Last season we had options of Montano Griff Jeronimo up front.
This year our option are Labi and some untried kids.
Chalk and cheese really and I can't see any of our rivals shitting house bricks at the thought of our attack
Miller is gonna need to be a top class coach to drag this side up to scratch with the rest of the teams in the League.
I would say we are solid, i certainly wouldn't say inferior. We are lighter on up top as last year we have griff, carney, flores, jeronimo. Going into the season we had no idea how Montano would go. This year we have Leonardo (could be amazing?), alidovic, labi and another striker to come in. We aren't that far off and with the coaching we have now surely we have to be ahead!
In Midfield we are a heap stronger than last season. I think Poljak is going to be huge for us this season, i really believe that is our best signing so far.
Boogard at the back definitely makes us stronger, Mullen is decent and Leaky G all season too.
Jeterpool
11-09-2015, 08:33 AM
So apples with apples and our squad from the beginning of last season with this seasons. We can't include Leaky, Alivodic, Mullen etc in last year's squad
KEEPERS
14/15 - Birraz, Kennedy
15/16 - Birraz, Kennedy
DEFENCE
14/15 - Neville, Regan, Jaliens, Madaschi, Gallagher. Welsh, Gallaway
15/16 - Hoffman, Mullen, Boogaard, Ki-Je, Jackson, Muata-Marlow, Cowburn (?)
MIDFIELDERS
14/15 - Kantarovski, Pepper, Caravella, Celeski, Baressi, Cooper, Steele
15/16 - Kantarovski, Poljak, Watson, Cooper, Baressi, Leonardo
FORWARDS
14/15 - Griffiths, Neumann, Montano, Lundy, Carney, Hoole, Virgili, Flores
15/16 - Haliti, Brennan, Lundy, Carney, Alivodic, Pavicevic, Crowley, TBA
Go nuts.
Get the new striker and we have the same squad number as last year
Tommyjet
11-09-2015, 08:43 AM
I think the defence is slightly better.
Midfield is far better.
Striking department potentially equal but dependant on quality of striker to be signed.
scarfy96
11-09-2015, 09:32 AM
I think the defence is slightly better.
Midfield is far better.
Striking department potentially equal but dependant on quality of striker to be signed.
So on par team to last year where most rated us a final chance.
Difference being Miller and JP - and that is a MASSIVE improvement IMO.
No-one is talking title contenders (and rightly so) but if they play as a solid unit and if (BIG IF) Leonardo can be a creative catalyst in midfield then we offer a threat this year and hopefully come New Year will be talking of our chances of playing finals football.
Grimario
11-09-2015, 10:17 AM
Getting rid of the two Galla's makes our defence amazingly better straight away.
Hoffman is a definite downgrade on Neville but Boogaard is one of the top 5 CB's in the league and a better player than Regan, Madaschi or Jaliens. Mullen is a bog standard HAL defender so is pretty much a like for like replacement for the other bog standard ones we had. A full pre-season under his belt and a coach that knows what he is doing... Leaky G is going to be the best left back in the league for mine. And compared to who we had there last year... It's like adding Roberto Carlos in his prime. Jackson is an upgrade on depth compared to Gallagher/Welsh and I've absolutely no idea what to expect from Muata-Marlow.
I think Poljak is a huge upgrade on everyone we had last year, Watson is kind of a bit underwhelming but that's my thoughts on who we had last year as well... I think Cooper/Kanta will have significantly improved seasons compared with last (though more due to coaching). Will reserve judgement on Leonardo but I imagine he will be a big upgrade on Cooper assuming he plays behind the strikers. However... you have Flores as a forward but he was in behind, so I don't know if Leonardo will be significantly better to what Flores should have been capable of. Dunno.
Forward line is shit, no Griff.
The biggest change though is obviously who is in charge. SM and JP are doing good things it would seem... something that I don't think anyone other than Stubbins said about Stubbins last year.
Tommyjet
11-09-2015, 10:22 AM
So on par team to last year where most rated us a final chance.
Difference being Miller and JP - and that is a MASSIVE improvement IMO.
No-one is talking title contenders (and rightly so) but if they play as a solid unit and if (BIG IF) Leonardo can be a creative catalyst in midfield then we offer a threat this year and hopefully come New Year will be talking of our chances of playing finals football.
I don't think we'll be lacking any creativity. Hopefully the new striker has a bit of speed about him because I think we are lacking in that department a bit unless Lundy Or andy Brennan rises to the occasion on one of the flanks occasionally.
Jetmaster
11-09-2015, 11:07 AM
Let's be realistic. Considering the basket case we were a few months ago, we should be grateful we even have a team to watch this season.
In those few months we have signed some good players, new coaching staff, got sponsors on board, changed the vibe considerably and disposed of the Knights connections (apart from mutual spoons).
They won't win anything, finals will be a bonus, but anything other than last, with a bit of fight and style will do me.
Anyone continually seeking the negatives needs to have a good look at themselves and consider themselves lucky they are above the grass each day rather than under it.
Actually looking forward to it now.
lil_masi
11-09-2015, 11:19 AM
Let's be realistic. Considering the basket case we were a few months ago, we should be grateful we even have a team to watch this season.
In those few months we have signed some good players, new coaching staff, got sponsors on board, changed the vibe considerably and disposed of the Knights connections (apart from mutual spoons).
They won't win anything, finals will be a bonus, but anything other than last, with a bit of fight and style will do me.
Anyone continually seeking the negatives needs to have a good look at themselves and consider themselves lucky they are above the grass each day rather than under it.
Actually looking forward to it now.
Well said
Grimario
11-09-2015, 11:20 AM
Are you really a Jets fan? Seeking the negatives is what we do best, ffs.
I am hoping that with Hoole gone, our shit hair cut quota will drop dramatically... but I remember Brennan had a god awful one in some pic the club put up.
GazFish35
11-09-2015, 11:24 AM
MANAGER
14/15 - Stubbins
15/16 - Miller
this is the biggest and best difference.
Let's be realistic. Considering the basket case we were a few months ago, we should be grateful we even have a team to watch this season.
In those few months we have signed some good players, new coaching staff, got sponsors on board, changed the vibe considerably and disposed of the Knights connections (apart from mutual spoons).
They won't win anything, finals will be a bonus, but anything other than last, with a bit of fight and style will do me.
Anyone continually seeking the negatives needs to have a good look at themselves and consider themselves lucky they are above the grass each day rather than under it.
Actually looking forward to it now.
Being negative on our chances this season has **** all to do with anything. Sure there has been change in the club for the good in the last 4-5 months but reality is we have not rebuilt that well. Nearly all of our signings since Muppet and Tinkler got the arse are nobodies. We have not made one signing that says we want to be finals bound. We have just cobbled together a squad of bits and pieces with no obvious plan how we are moving up the table in the future at all. It almost looks like the club have surrendered already this season with making the semis.
I am looking at things in the cold light of day with a sense of realism. We were a long way off the pace last season. I sure as shit hope we have a crack every game and play for the fans and put a bit of pride back into the club this season.
I though not see this as any guarantee we will avoid the spoon.
Sure Miller may well prove to be 50 times the manager Muppet was (shouldn't be hard) problem is just like the rest of our new faces the jury is out on him and them as to what they will bring to the club in tangible improvement.
Reality says to me there is a distinct lack of quality in our squad. The same quality we had when we finished 7th every year
Grimario
11-09-2015, 11:46 AM
Every year I wish we could sign nobodies like FFA Cup/A-League (not mickey mouse finals football)/Champions League winners like we have done. What a glorious bunch of nobodies.
GazFish35
11-09-2015, 11:51 AM
We have just cobbled together a squad of bits and pieces with no obvious plan how we are moving up the table in the future at all. It almost looks like the club have surrendered already this season with making the semis.
Cap restrictions and the length and size of contracts for some who remain have no doubt played their part in limiting the improvements we could make in the playing squad.
No doubt this season is as much about erasing memories of past limp performances as it is about setting up the squad and the contracts of the squad so that things can be built on again next year - id be surprised if there isn't another big clean out at the end of this coming season.
Big picture means this season is not about making the finals - miller has only ever said we "aim" to make the finals, or that we will "train and prepare" like a finals quality side. He's been very careful not to guaranetee anything other than making the team one we can be proud of. and others have said, if we come 9th, play with ticker, and beat the coasties, Ill be happy.
if the squad this season doesn't change much for next season, I'd be worried.
We are still hamstrung by the remnants of the squad that was put together by Baartz, Middleby and Palmer.
la bazzle
11-09-2015, 12:08 PM
beat the coasties, Ill be happy.
.
If this happens just once this season that'll do me.
Jetmaster
11-09-2015, 01:30 PM
Cap restrictions and the length and size of contracts for some who remain have no doubt played their part in limiting the improvements we could make in the playing squad.
No doubt this season is as much about erasing memories of past limp performances as it is about setting up the squad and the contracts of the squad so that things can be built on again next year - id be surprised if there isn't another big clean out at the end of this coming season.
Big picture means this season is not about making the finals - miller has only ever said we "aim" to make the finals, or that we will "train and prepare" like a finals quality side. He's been very careful not to guaranetee anything other than making the team one we can be proud of. and others have said, if we come 9th, play with ticker, and beat the coasties, Ill be happy.
if the squad this season doesn't change much for next season, I'd be worried.
We are still hamstrung by the remnants of the squad that was put together by Baartz, Middleby and Palmer.
Agreed - the squad Miller would like and the one FFA will fund him are two very different things. FFS we had $600 in the bank when Tinks left !
My point is the mess that was created will take time to repair, intent and continued improvement is all I expect.
plague
11-09-2015, 02:26 PM
Solid team??
I reckon the squad we have this season on paper is massively inferior to the squad muppet assembled at the start of last year.
The good Member finally shows his hand in the BK/Biraz debate.
sammydog
11-09-2015, 02:44 PM
Agreed - the squad Miller would like and the one FFA will fund him are two very different things. FFS we had $600 in the bank when Tinks left !
My point is the mess that was created will take time to repair, intent and continued improvement is all I expect.
And the intent seems to be there. I think the squad last year on paper was very good, obviously it didn't perform, but I put that down to the work environment that the club had created with Tinkler and Stubbins.
I don't see the squad at the start of this year as any worse than that this time last season, but the coaching seems a lot more positive and focused. That will be the big change for us.
We can't forget that despite a heap of places being available, there wasn't a lot of space under the cap to use, and FFA aren't throwing money at marquees. Id expect more change next season as contracts come to an end.
All that said though, I am positive about this season. Will we win it....I doubt it, but I think we will see more from the team and club.
Grimario
11-09-2015, 03:50 PM
This is the squad for the Roar game...
Newcastle Jets squad vs. Brisbane Roar (Friendly): 1. Mark Birighitti (Gk), 2. Daniel Mullen, 3. Jason Hoffman, 4. Nigel Boogaard, 5. Ben Kantarovski, 6. Cameron Watson, 7. Enver Alivodic, 8. Mateo Poljak, 10. Leonardo, 11. Labinot Haliti, 13. Lee Ki-je, 14. Mitch Cooper, 22. Lachlan Jackson, 23. David Carney, 25. Brandon Lundy, 30. Blake Tuxford (Gk) (T)
http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/news-leonardo-part-of-16-man-squad-for-saturdays-roar-friendly/1sr3n39sw5iqs1p2e9de9wxbam
BodyNovo
11-09-2015, 03:58 PM
notables;
andy brennan might not have made quite the impact as of yet
and lundy obviously has made an impact which is good.
WolfMan
11-09-2015, 04:00 PM
Also, no BK
Grimario
11-09-2015, 04:02 PM
notables;
andy brennan might not have made quite the impact as of yet
and lundy obviously has made an impact which is good.
Or the alternative... Brennan has made quite the impact and has nothing left to prove to be part of the regular squad. Lundy hasn't and is in the squad with a chance to prove his worth.
And no BK.
white city
11-09-2015, 04:36 PM
Or the alternative... Brennan has made quite the impact and has nothing left to prove to be part of the regular squad. Lundy hasn't and is in the squad with a chance to prove his worth.
And no BK.
is Brennan injured? i dont think he has featured in any of the trials to date, even the intra-club one on the north-coast..correct me if im wrong?
i can only make the assumption that he aint much chop!
northern_swan
12-09-2015, 09:57 AM
Or the alternative... Brennan has made quite the impact and has nothing left to prove to be part of the regular squad. Lundy hasn't and is in the squad with a chance to prove his worth.
And no BK.
According to the Herald, BK has stayed home with his gravely ill mother.
Or the alternative... Brennan has made quite the impact and has nothing left to prove to be part of the regular squad. Lundy hasn't and is in the squad with a chance to prove his worth.
And no BK.
I would have thought that being Brennan has had injury issues his non selection would be down to that as he is probably behind the rest of the squad in fitness and also behind the rest of the squad in selction as he hasn't had the opportunities to state his case yet
Grimario
12-09-2015, 12:20 PM
According to the Herald, BK has stayed home with his gravely ill mother.
Not good... though I guess with that kind of thing, it never ever is good.
I would have thought that being Brennan has had injury issues his non selection would be down to that as he is probably behind the rest of the squad in fitness and also behind the rest of the squad in selction as he hasn't had the opportunities to state his case yet
Wasn't even aware he was injured. What did he do and was he out for 6-8 weeks?
Not good... though I guess with that kind of thing, it never ever is good.
Wasn't even aware he was injured. What did he do and was he out for 6-8 weeks?
If I remember right he had some Hamstring issues not long after he started training with us
The Dunster
12-09-2015, 03:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-SieCU11r4
stopper2
12-09-2015, 07:32 PM
And the intent seems to be there. I think the squad last year on paper was very good, obviously it didn't perform, but I put that down to the work environment that the club had created with Tinkler and Stubbins.
I don't see the squad at the start of this year as any worse than that this time last season, but the coaching seems a lot more positive and focused. That will be the big change for us.
We can't forget that despite a heap of places being available, there wasn't a lot of space under the cap to use, and FFA aren't throwing money at marquees. Id expect more change next season as contracts come to an end.
All that said though, I am positive about this season. Will we win it....I doubt it, but I think we will see more from the team and club.
Agree 100% sammy
stopper2
12-09-2015, 07:45 PM
Cap restrictions and the length and size of contracts for some who remain have no doubt played their part in limiting the improvements we could make in the playing squad.
No doubt this season is as much about erasing memories of past limp performances as it is about setting up the squad and the contracts of the squad so that things can be built on again next year - id be surprised if there isn't another big clean out at the end of this coming season.
Big picture means this season is not about making the finals - miller has only ever said we "aim" to make the finals, or that we will "train and prepare" like a finals quality side. He's been very careful not to guaranetee anything other than making the team one we can be proud of. and others have said, if we come 9th, play with ticker, and beat the coasties, Ill be happy.
if the squad this season doesn't change much for next season, I'd be worried.
We are still hamstrung by the remnants of the squad that was put together by Baartz, Middleby and Palmer.
Stubbins also can be blamed for our current situation too, in the second half of last season he upgraded BK's contract, extended Mullens and Leaky Gee's and enticed Boogaard here, all of them I believe on big coin now, with these four plus Carney taking up $1million of the cap.....since the cap is I believe only $2.4million, that's only 5 players taking up 42%!!! Meaning the club somehow has to fit another 17 or 18 players under $1.4million.
GazFish35
12-09-2015, 08:12 PM
Stubbins also can be blamed for our current situation too, in the second half of last season he upgraded BK's contract, extended Mullens and Leaky Gee's and enticed Boogaard here, all of them I believe on big coin now, with these four plus Carney taking up $1million of the cap.....since the cap is I believe only $2.4million, that's only 5 players taking up 42%!!! Meaning the club somehow has to fit another 17 or 18 players under $1.4million.
Good points.
sammydog
12-09-2015, 10:11 PM
Stubbins also can be blamed for our current situation too, in the second half of last season he upgraded BK's contract, extended Mullens and Leaky Gee's and enticed Boogaard here, all of them I believe on big coin now, with these four plus Carney taking up $1million of the cap.....since the cap is I believe only $2.4million, that's only 5 players taking up 42%!!! Meaning the club somehow has to fit another 17 or 18 players under $1.4million.
Thats exactly as I see our issue. Stubbins went nuts on a few existing players and left bugger all in the cap for the rest of the squad. It will take a few seasons to sort out that legacy.
Tommyjet
13-09-2015, 08:14 AM
Thats exactly as I see our issue. Stubbins went nuts on a few existing players and left bugger all in the cap for the rest of the squad. It will take a few seasons to sort out that legacy.
A new owner coming in and using the newly implemented cap exemptions would make a hell of a difference
GazFish35
13-09-2015, 08:37 AM
What do the cap exemptions entail?
I assume they'd let us move either of the two BK's out of the cap, but what else?
Tommyjet
13-09-2015, 09:14 AM
What do the cap exemptions entail?
I assume they'd let us move either of the two BK's out of the cap, but what else?
Yeah I think it would be up to 200k for each of home grown and long service.
GazFish35
13-09-2015, 12:28 PM
That's pretty good tbh.
Move both BK's out from under the cap,
Use the space made with that and what's still not spent to get a decent #9.
I reckon Michael bridges would happily sign on for 750K
Yeah I think it would be up to 200k for each of home grown and long service.
Isnt it $200k in total? Not for each player?
Grimario
13-09-2015, 12:54 PM
Isnt it $200k in total? Not for each player?
Total yeah but they are different things... One is the local junior thing, the other is long term players.
GazFish35
13-09-2015, 01:51 PM
Total yeah but they are different things... One is the local junior thing, the other is long term players.
200k in total or for each category?
gives us the ability to move both players wages out from under the cap, and throw more at a quality 9.
Must be what they're planning.
Wish they would hurry up and announce the new owners (assuming the last six months haven't been all smoke and mirrors) so we can start badgering someone specific to spend their cash on our club.
Grimario
13-09-2015, 02:06 PM
200k each.
· A Loyalty Player allowance has been included to give clubs a sliding scale of Salary Cap relief for players who have played between 5-10 years at the club. The total amount that can be spent on Loyalty Players is $200,000 outside the Salary Cap.
· The existing Home Grown Player allowance outside the Salary Cap has lifted from $150,000 to $200,000. Each Club can include three players who started their careers with the Club, either through the Youth System of the Hyundai A-League squa
http://www.a-league.com.au/article/ffa-makes-changes-to-hyundai-a-league-salary-cap-regulations/1wotlw01hpsbh1ig6tb3cjgxzg
Tommyjet
13-09-2015, 02:33 PM
Also there is the over-22yo rookie exemption meaning we could sign someone from the npl over 22 that hasn't been in the a-league for 2 yrs. if we used it when the new owners arrives it seems it would be used on Alex smith who is now naturalised and impressed on triall.
Sydney just used it to sign Alex Mullen, Daniels cousin.
OmeletteDuFromage
13-09-2015, 06:28 PM
Also there is the over-22yo rookie exemption meaning we could sign someone from the npl over 22 that hasn't been in the a-league for 2 yrs. if we used it when the new owners arrives it seems it would be used on Alex smith who is now naturalised and impressed on triall.
Sydney just used it to sign Alex Mullen, Daniels cousin.
Might be able to move Brennan in to that?
lquiquer
13-09-2015, 06:55 PM
Is Adebayor our new number 9?
joel31
13-09-2015, 06:57 PM
Is Adebayor our new number 9?
where did that come from
lquiquer
13-09-2015, 07:00 PM
where did that come from
Just a question ?.... His contract with Spurs has just been terminated
plague
13-09-2015, 07:14 PM
Just a question ?.... His contract with Spurs has just been terminated
Yeah seems likely.
I'd say it's now 100% true.
Get your headlines ready Dillon.
Jeterpool
13-09-2015, 08:32 PM
Is Adebayor our new number 9?
Imagine that. Wow
Imagine that. Wow
lets not get hopes up. btw how many obscure cap exemptions. Have we a father son one yet?
Is Adebayor our new number 9?
Surely he would want marquee wages tho
Grimario
15-09-2015, 10:43 AM
It's official... EA has us in for the spoon.
http://www.futhead.com/16/clubs/newcastle-jets/
It's official... EA has us in for the spoon.
http://www.futhead.com/16/clubs/newcastle-jets/
More importantly they reckon Birraz is better than BK :brrr:
Grimario
15-09-2015, 11:38 AM
Actually... I've done some analysis (not really, just a quick look) and they rate the coastie scum worse than ours. We have THREE silver players (Leaky G, Carney and Boogaard) and they only have the one (Ferreira) whilst we are both average of 60.
Tommyjet
15-09-2015, 04:59 PM
So very over waiting for any news on a striker
Grimario
15-09-2015, 05:51 PM
So very over waiting for any news on a striker
I wonder how much of our non-striker and the entire takeover debacle is held back because of this CBA stuff? If I was an owner about to acquire a license, I would want to know if I am responsible for another 300k a year out of pocket before I signed on the dotted line.
Tommyjet
15-09-2015, 05:58 PM
I wonder how much of our non-striker and the entire takeover debacle is held back because of this CBA stuff? If I was an owner about to acquire a license, I would want to know if I am responsible for another 300k a year out of pocket before I signed on the dotted line.
My thoughts exactly. Sounds like FFA will likely have to step in and take the roar so I wonder how that will effect our situation too.
joel31
15-09-2015, 06:05 PM
Just wait for FM. It will provide a better indication of our position
matty
15-09-2015, 07:11 PM
its certainly not gospel but sst said last night that our ownership will be sorted out by monday next week. also read on the twittersphere that the bakeries have thrown a million at the roar this afternoon
Grimario
15-09-2015, 07:32 PM
Just wait for FM. It will provide a better indication of our position
Best in the league with all of our players future Socceroos?
Tommyjet
15-09-2015, 07:33 PM
its certainly not gospel but sst said last night that our ownership will be sorted out by monday next week. also read on the twittersphere that the bakeries have thrown a million at the roar this afternoon
They aren't always reliable but hopefully this time they are
Jeterpool
15-09-2015, 07:35 PM
its certainly not gospel but sst said last night that our ownership will be sorted out by monday next week. also read on the twittersphere that the bakeries have thrown a million at the roar this afternoon
I asked SST about rumours that Labi and Poljak were signing for us. They said it wasn't true. And hour later they were announced.
furns
15-09-2015, 08:21 PM
Take them with a grain of salt, their strike rate with this sort of thing is 50-50 at best
matty
15-09-2015, 09:50 PM
been digging about this "striker" and its been rumored that he is serbian. got me thinking to kaluderovic that played in brisbane past year, serbian and a free agent. possible?
Tommyjet
15-09-2015, 09:54 PM
been digging about this "striker" and its been rumored that he is serbian. got me thinking to kaluderovic that played in brisbane past year, serbian and a free agent. possible?
Miller said he was currently playing, which suggests they are trying to negotiate a release from the players current contract.
How reliable is your source?
matty
15-09-2015, 10:02 PM
he said its only rumoured to be serbian, which i come up with the name. you would think that its taking a while sorting out the visa before announcing surely
lil_masi
15-09-2015, 10:05 PM
Ranko despotovic's name has been linked to the aleague. Not specifically linked to the jets though
Tommyjet
15-09-2015, 10:25 PM
Just had a quick look on transfermarkt and their are too many Serbian strikers of a decent level for me to name that are either in their final year of contract or even free agent.
kaluderovic actually has actually had a better career than I thought. Didn't do too bad for roar either. But their are quite a few Serbian strikers a level above him that I'd rather have.
matty
15-09-2015, 10:45 PM
yea he had a pretty good career, least we know roughly where to look now, saying that newy is likely to change their mind at last minute
matty
15-09-2015, 11:58 PM
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3352043/jets-closing-in-on-european-striker/?cs=306
playing currently in europe, begin the guessing game
Tommyjet
16-09-2015, 06:40 AM
Finally, hope he's worth the wait
been digging about this "striker" and its been rumored that he is serbian. got me thinking to kaluderovic that played in brisbane past year, serbian and a free agent. possible?
Hopefully he is actually Swedish but with a vic like name from the former Yugoslav area.
Imagine if we signed Ibra???
lquiquer
16-09-2015, 08:58 AM
Hopefully he is actually Swedish but with a vic like name from the former Yugoslav area.
Imagine if we signed Ibra???
Zlatan told me maybe next year.......:grin:
Tommyjet
16-09-2015, 09:07 AM
So if it is another Serb we can rule out kaluderovic and despotivic. Just about every Serb I look at is or was playing in either the Greek supaleague or belgiums Jupiler pro league.
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3352043/jets-closing-in-on-european-striker/?cs=306
playing currently in europe, begin the guessing game
The article sounds very positive.
lil_masi
16-09-2015, 09:23 AM
The article sounds very positive.
Exactly my thoughts. Saying all the right things
anfield
16-09-2015, 09:31 AM
I reckon it would have been good to get a bloke called sasa popin, serbian 25, 202 cm tall. Would have come handy with carney, ali and co putting crosses in.
But seriously miller should have pushed to get a former fringe fulham player Chris David to jets. Became a free agent in the summer and left fulham to join go ahead eagles in dutch second divison. Early 20's from holland, check out his you tube footage, attacking midfielder who has some skill.
plague
16-09-2015, 09:40 AM
their are too many Serbian strikers of a decent level
see if there are any garbage ones on that list.
That's who we're more likely to sign.
GazFish35
16-09-2015, 10:11 AM
I don't understand if he's still playing that means he's contracted - so how are we able to get him?
Any know this bloke?
Lazar Veselinovic - at Pohang Steelers so maybe moving with AFC still viable?
I have no ****ing clue.
borat
16-09-2015, 10:17 AM
Beleive HAL clubs can sign any uncontracted up until the registration deadline. So if this player gets a release then we can sign him. After the deadline he waits until January
Jetmaster
16-09-2015, 10:41 AM
If we can give away contracted players that want to go overseas to play, why can't anyone else?
Tommyjet
16-09-2015, 10:41 AM
I don't understand if he's still playing that means he's contracted - so how are we able to get him?
Any know this bloke?
Lazar Veselinovic - at Pohang Steelers so maybe moving with AFC still viable?
I have no ****ing clue.
Mutual termination allowed?
Grimario
16-09-2015, 11:05 AM
Christ, I made the mistake of going to the Herald article. There are some deadset flogs commenting on there.
GazFish35
16-09-2015, 11:56 AM
So he's playing, at a level, and a standard where his current club is happy for him to leave.
Even the optimist in me cant see much positive in that situation.
we need more clues!
lquiquer
16-09-2015, 12:08 PM
So he's playing, at a level, and a standard where his current club is happy for him to leave.
Even the optimist in me cant see much positive in that situation.
we need more clues!
My bet would be he is over 32
Grimario
16-09-2015, 12:09 PM
So he's playing, at a level, and a standard where his current club is happy for him to leave.
Even the optimist in me cant see much positive in that situation.
we need more clues!
Berisha was playing regularly(ish) before he moved. Would absolutely suck to get a player of his calibre...
I don't understand if he's still playing that means he's contracted - so how are we able to get him?
Any know this bloke?
Lazar Veselinovic - at Pohang Steelers so maybe moving with AFC still viable?
I have no ****ing clue.
This is the Jets we are talking about.
You ever consider the prospect that someone is lying or stretching the truth a little???
Wouldn't be the first time at Jets HQ
Grimario
16-09-2015, 12:20 PM
I reckon I know who it is...
Serbian, playing regularly. Scored nearly 20 goals this season...
Reckon it's this guy. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marko_Je%C5%A1i%C4%87)
Tommyjet
16-09-2015, 12:26 PM
I reckon I know who it is...
Serbian, playing regularly. Scored nearly 20 goals this season...
Reckon it's this guy. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marko_Je%C5%A1i%C4%87)
You just want to see his filthy looking ponytail thingy more often
Grimario
16-09-2015, 12:35 PM
You just want to see his filthy looking ponytail thingy more often
Better than Davidsons.
GazFish35
16-09-2015, 01:25 PM
European?
Grimario
16-09-2015, 01:48 PM
European?
Serbian...
la bazzle
16-09-2015, 01:52 PM
"He's coming here to prove a point," Miller said. "He's not a 36-year-old. He's physically capable and he's hungry to succeed in the A-League.
Shevchenko's 38
Grimario
16-09-2015, 02:01 PM
Shevchenko's 38
And Heskey is 37...
Christ, I made the mistake of going to the Herald article. There are some deadset flogs commenting on there.
You aren't wrong.. Some absolute negative numpties getting about in there..
This new signing could be Zlatan and those pricks would still poo-poo it and say how sh!t the club is doing..
q-money
16-09-2015, 02:44 PM
it's deadset flogbush city limits in that article
GazFish35
16-09-2015, 04:31 PM
Serbian...
I meant playing in Europe.
The Dunster
16-09-2015, 04:44 PM
Drogba is 37.
Drogba made the move to China so he could play alongside Griffo.
The opportunity to wear the number nine at Newcastle just like Griffo once did would surely be enough to get Drogba to Newcastle.
Hail Griffo.
weston
16-09-2015, 10:19 PM
This new signing could be Zlatan and those pricks would still poo-poo it and say how sh!t the club is doing..
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/ibrahimovic-my-next-move-will-be-very-big-surprise
I posted this before. I told you all. Some would say he doesn't fit in with the Serbian rumour.... Zlatan can be whatever nationality he wants to be. It's definately him.
The Dunster
16-09-2015, 11:55 PM
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/ibrahimovic-my-next-move-will-be-very-big-surprise
I posted this before. I told you all. Some would say he doesn't fit in with the Serbian rumour.... Zlatan can be whatever nationality he wants to be. It's definately him.
This could be the post the year if you are correct.
This could be the post the year if you are correct.
Except miller said he's not a well known player
http://footballcentral.com.au/serbian-striker-set-to-join-a-league/#.Vfmxp2YmLCR
There u go.... Theres our new striker...
leftrightout
17-09-2015, 07:20 AM
http://footballcentral.com.au/serbian-striker-set-to-join-a-league/#.Vfmxp2YmLCR
There u go.... Theres our new striker...
Wow not sure if his runs are great or the defence in the uzbek league is terrible!
Jeterpool
17-09-2015, 08:34 AM
http://footballcentral.com.au/serbian-striker-set-to-join-a-league/#.Vfmxp2YmLCR
There u go.... Theres our new striker...
Great pick up Tomo
The Dunster
17-09-2015, 09:16 AM
What's his Football Manager / FIFA stats ?
joel31
17-09-2015, 09:31 AM
What's his Football Manager / FIFA stats ?
Hes rubbish on FM. Same level as Haliti
Grimario
17-09-2015, 09:35 AM
Hes rubbish on FM. Same level as Haliti
Can someone install FM from pre Berisha/Broich in HAL days and find out how good they were back then?
white city
17-09-2015, 09:41 AM
Hes rubbish on FM. Same level as Haliti
i can speak from knowledge of watching a bit of the serbian super league and i do remember milos when he played at my beloved red star (crvena zvezda) i think he will be a good addition, and has some size so he will suit the league physically.
definately believe he can be the striker we have long craved, with the right coaching and service him and enver will link up very well
nice!!
Grimario
17-09-2015, 09:49 AM
Article says he is 188cm, wiki says 187cm and FM has him at 183cm.
FM has him as a right footed striker who can also play anywhere across the attacking midfield area with a preference for the left hand side.
I also think Joel is being a bit harsh on him... he has a 10 point gap in Current Ability in FM and 22 better than Haliti for Potential. FM basically says he is going to be better than Berisha who is 2 points less.
Now, if he signs for the coasties, I fully support soccer joel's point.
joel31
17-09-2015, 10:05 AM
Can someone install FM from pre Berisha/Broich in HAL days and find out how good they were back then?
Broich
FM10
http://puu.sh/kdRLp/647a4fccc1.png
FM14
http://puu.sh/kdSfL/c07c778069.jpg
Berisha
FM10
http://puu.sh/kdROD/eb2e9a6965.png
FM14
http://puu.sh/kdScs/bc84fbe175.jpg
joel31
17-09-2015, 10:16 AM
Trifunovic
http://puu.sh/kdSIb/9a295fc813.png
For comparison Haliti
http://puu.sh/kdSKF/0017dafd6a.png
GazFish35
17-09-2015, 10:22 AM
inb4 BK jokes
So he's better keeper than birraz.
:)
GazFish35
17-09-2015, 10:23 AM
will add some spice to the games v WSW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRIqWSxq37Q
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