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Wilso8948
06-01-2016, 07:56 AM
Any decent management with $450k could sign Pain, Williams and Brown with change. **** the Jets.
la bazzle
06-01-2016, 11:42 AM
Whens the last time (since griff) that anyone has been legit excited about a signing? We're pretty crap hey. I might do a Parksey and just join Melbourne
q-money
06-01-2016, 11:46 AM
i thought parksey joined ISIS
la bazzle
06-01-2016, 12:13 PM
i thought parksey joined ISIS
They wouldn't take him
anfield
06-01-2016, 12:39 PM
Newcastle has always been a town that gives players a go. Both the Jets and Knights have previously done this with mixed success.
Look at Adam Taggatt, fringe player at the glory. When he left the jets he was a socceroo.
I think the jets should try sign 3 players. One being a foreign signing. Need a left back, attacking midfielder and a striker.
Problem is there would be only a few decent foreign players available as free agents. Maybe Asian leagues and MLS would be the targets. Japan, Korea or China might be too expensive. Maybe Singapore or the Indian Super League.
Heres a name. Josue Currais Prieto, Spanish attacking mid or winger recently played in India. Played top divison in Poland. Only 22 and from Barcelona academy.
Left back, Scott Nagel former Adelaide Utd fringe and youth player. Now playing at same club we got Ryan Kitto from.
Striker, Milos Lujic. South Melbourne striker 26 has scored lots of goals in vic npl.
Jetmaster
06-01-2016, 01:04 PM
Striker, Milos Lujic. South Melbourne striker 26 has scored lots of goals in vic npl.
Milos in stereo, twin Milos, 2D Milos?
Grimario
06-01-2016, 01:14 PM
Milos in stereo, twin Milos, 2D Milos?
If they start setting each up with easy unmissable goals, we could start calling them Milos tap ins... Milo tins for short.
Make it so.
Jetmaster
06-01-2016, 02:00 PM
If they start setting each up with easy unmissable goals, we could start calling them Milos tap ins... Milo tins for short.
Make it so.
As long as we see the ball NESTLEing in the back of the net.
The Dunster
06-01-2016, 02:32 PM
Newcastle has always been a town that gives players a go. Both the Jets and Knights have previously done this with mixed success.
Look at Adam Taggatt, fringe player at the glory. When he left the jets he was a socceroo.
I think the jets should try sign 3 players. One being a foreign signing. Need a left back, attacking midfielder and a striker.
Problem is there would be only a few decent foreign players available as free agents. Maybe Asian leagues and MLS would be the targets. Japan, Korea or China might be too expensive. Maybe Singapore or the Indian Super League.
Heres a name. Josue Currais Prieto, Spanish attacking mid or winger recently played in India. Played top divison in Poland. Only 22 and from Barcelona academy.
Left back, Scott Nagel former Adelaide Utd fringe and youth player. Now playing at same club we got Ryan Kitto from.
Striker, Milos Lujic. South Melbourne striker 26 has scored lots of goals in vic npl.
Absolutely. If there is one thing this club needs its more state league quality players and unproven foreigners on six figure contracts. Pass.
Grimario
06-01-2016, 02:50 PM
Absolutely. If there is one thing this club needs its more state league quality players and unproven foreigners on six figure contracts. Pass.
We should get the ones below state league standard on six figure contracts.
Dunster's head would explode.
We should get the ones below state league standard on six figure contracts.
Dunster's head would explode.
I am thinking we have a few of them already on the books
stopper2
06-01-2016, 05:13 PM
Newcastle has always been a town that gives players a go. Both the Jets and Knights have previously done this with mixed success.
Look at Adam Taggatt, fringe player at the glory. When he left the jets he was a socceroo.
I think the jets should try sign 3 players. One being a foreign signing. Need a left back, attacking midfielder and a striker.
Problem is there would be only a few decent foreign players available as free agents. Maybe Asian leagues and MLS would be the targets. Japan, Korea or China might be too expensive. Maybe Singapore or the Indian Super League.
Heres a name. Josue Currais Prieto, Spanish attacking mid or winger recently played in India. Played top divison in Poland. Only 22 and from Barcelona academy.
Left back, Scott Nagel former Adelaide Utd fringe and youth player. Now playing at same club we got Ryan Kitto from.
Striker, Milos Lujic. South Melbourne striker 26 has scored lots of goals in vic npl.
A LB isn't going to save our season, we need a striker and a #10.....end of the section, maybe even a dominating central midfielder before I would be even looking at a LB. Cowburn or Jackson can play that role for the remainder of the season, so as far as I'm concerned it's way down on our priorities at this point in time.
Spend that $420k on where we desperately need it!:banghead:
Grimario
06-01-2016, 06:13 PM
Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't save our season.
lquiquer
06-01-2016, 06:20 PM
Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't save our season.
And they know it.....:lulzturtle:
anfield
06-01-2016, 07:32 PM
Absolutely. If there is one thing this club needs its more state league quality players and unproven foreigners on six figure contracts. Pass.
Im pretty sure no one from barcelona, real madrid or man city are coming to the jets anytime soon. Where do you expect to get these players??? Any names??? Most in the A league come from a lower level.
parksey
06-01-2016, 07:42 PM
i thought parksey joined ISIS
asio had my passport flagged
stopper2
06-01-2016, 07:46 PM
NBN News mentioned tonight that David Williams is on their list of potential new players. Here is a refresher of what he is capable of....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fFEiSmA5r8
Now lets be honest here, have we got anyone in the squad at the moment who could do that? No
Spend that $420k on where we desperately need it!:banghead:
i agree hoars and charge
lquiquer
06-01-2016, 08:02 PM
Where do you expect to get these players??? Any names???
Barcelona, Real Madrid, man city... Einstein!!!!!!
Jeterpool
06-01-2016, 09:25 PM
Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't save our season.
Zlatan would
lquiquer
06-01-2016, 09:53 PM
Zlatan would
:wub::wub:
Hunter403
06-01-2016, 10:08 PM
I would be happy with this
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/01/06/holman-keeping-eye-league-options
Let's pass the hat around!
WolfMan
07-01-2016, 08:31 AM
Cowburn signs on as a full-time pro, Jackson extends by 1year
https://twitter.com/NewcastleJetsFC/status/684847133007024129
Grimario
07-01-2016, 08:37 AM
Cowburn signs on as a full-time pro, Jackson extends by 1year
https://twitter.com/NewcastleJetsFC/status/684847133007024129
That's about as good as the news is likely to get for us.
leftrightout
07-01-2016, 03:47 PM
Heard a rumour of Corey Brown from Brisbane
idontwannaplaywithhowey
07-01-2016, 04:23 PM
Heard a rumour of Corey Brown from Brisbane
That one has been doing the rounds. Apparently Aloisi has said he is going nowhere. Could be foxing though.
The Postman
07-01-2016, 04:36 PM
1. Mark Birighitti - 15/16
3. Jason Hoffman - 15/16
5. Ben Kantarovski - 15/16
6. Cameron Watson - 15/16
7. Enver Alivodic - 15/16
9. Miloš Trifunović - 15/16
10. Leonardo - 15/16
18. Josh Baressi - 15/16
23. David Carney - 15/16
25. Brandon Lundy - 15/16
28. Ryan Kitto - 15/16 (IR)
2. Daniel Mullen - 16/17
8. Mateo Poljak - 16/17
11. Labinot Halti - 16/17
12. Andy Brennan - 16/17
14. Mitch Cooper - 16/17
15. Themba Marlow - 16/17
17. Radan Pavicevic - 16/17
20. Ben Kennedy - 16/17
22. Lachlan Jackson - 16/17
4. Nigel Boogaard - 17/18
24. Nick Cowburn - 17/18
The Dunster
07-01-2016, 08:21 PM
That list is depressing to say the least - it comprises of rookies yet to establish themselves, players that failed to reach their potential, players with major injury woes, Players no other club wanted, state league standard players with managers smarter than jets contract negotiators, and Mitch Cooper who appears to be invisible to the gaffer.
Overall there is absolutely nobody in that squad deserving of anything more than the status of a squad player. if their wages don't reflect that the club needs to get rid of them.
I wouldn't even negotiate with them. I'd offer them the minimum we are required to pay them and they either accept it or leave.
Totally over our club being the employer of last resort for players too shit to get a contract anywhere else.
riverboy
07-01-2016, 09:49 PM
That list is depressing to say the least - it comprises of rookies yet to establish themselves, players that failed to reach their potential, players with major injury woes, Players no other club wanted, state league standard players with managers smarter than jets contract negotiators, and Mitch Cooper who appears to be invisible to the gaffer.
Overall there is absolutely nobody in that squad deserving of anything more than the status of a squad player. if their wages don't reflect that the club needs to get rid of them.
I wouldn't even negotiate with them. I'd offer them the minimum we are required to pay them and they either accept it or leave.
Totally over our club being the employer of last resort for players too shit to get a contract anywhere else.
You are a goose!!!!! What about boogaard, hoffman, carney, plus a few others.
Premy
07-01-2016, 10:12 PM
After tonight splash the $420k on John Arne :wub: bloke is 35 and would still run rings around blokes
in the A-League
The Postman
08-01-2016, 08:07 AM
Australian U23 representative Steven Ugarković has signed till the end of 17/18. A defensive midfielder
WolfMan
08-01-2016, 08:10 AM
Australian U23 representative Steven Ugarković has signed till the end of 17/18. A defensive midfielder
Oh good, we will start playing 3x DM's no doubt and be "hard to beat"...
Hunter403
08-01-2016, 08:15 AM
After tonight splash the $420k on John Arne :wub: bloke is 35 and would still run rings around blokes
in the A-League
Or Louis Garcia. He knows where the goal is.
belchardo
08-01-2016, 08:16 AM
far out, we bitch about how shit Watson is, we sign a potential replacement and people complain!
GazFish35
08-01-2016, 08:18 AM
Olyroo Steven Ugarković joins Jets
Newcastle Jets’ midfield stocks will soon be bolstered with Australian U23 representative Steven Ugarković linking with Scott Miller’s squad to commence his contract with the club.
Ugarković completed a medical with the Jets earlier this week before flying out to the Middle East with the Olyroos to prepare for the upcoming 2016 AFC U23 Championship in Qatar – a tournament in which Aurelio Vidmar’s team must finish in third place or better to ensure that Australia qualifies for the Rio 2016 Olympics.
Ugarković, 21, has signed with the Jets until the completion of the Hyundai A-League 2016/17 season.
Ugarković has been playing his football in Croatia for the past four years having first linked with first division outfit NK Osijek as a 17-year-old. After progressing through the club’s youth system, Ugarković made over 50 senior league and cup appearances for the men from the Gradski vrt Stadium, and also spent a period on loan with second tier side HNK Gorica.
When his commitments with Australia U23 in Qatar conclude the versatile Baulkham Hills born midfielder will commence a fresh chapter in his club career.
“I have been looking to come home to the A-League,” Ugarković explained. “[Newcastle Jets Head Coach] Scott Miller got in contact with me, and I very much liked what I heard and the direction that the club is going. I have also heard very good things about the coaching staff.”
“They [the Jets] actually got in contact with me at the start of the A-League pre-season. It was hard to make the move back then because I was locked into my contract. But I am glad it has worked out now and I guess it was meant to happen.”
Ugarković said that he views himself as a team player and someone that the club’s Members and supporters can count on to display full commitment each match.
“I play defensive midfield but I can play a bit higher up in the middle,” he said. “I see myself as a versatile player, I have got a high work rate which you expect from someone playing in the middle, and I am happy to do the job for the team that maybe everyone doesn’t see.”
“I have signed an 18-month contract and I am looking to make a name for myself back home, show Australia what I can do and then hopefully move forward from there.”
Ugarković would love nothing more than to arrive at the Jets as an AFC U23 Champion, and with qualification for the Olympics secured.
“There will be a fair bit of pressure on us as a team [in Qatar] given the Socceroos won the AFC Asian Cup last year,” he said.
“Qualifying for the Olympics would be a big, big, big thing. We’re all looking forward to the challenge, we’ve got a good bunch of boys here, a quality team, so we’re looking to do the best we can to qualify and even win the tournament.”
Newcastle Jets Head Coach Miller said Ugarković fits the type of player profile he’s keen to have at the club.
“We really want players representing Australia within our squad,” Miller said. “If we can recruit young players who are at national team level, or develop them into players capable of representing Australia, then that will help take the club and football in Newcastle to the next level.”
“Steven ticks many boxes for us. He is technically very talented, has good distribution and game awareness, and for his age has gained a lot of experience throughout his career by playing in Europe at a strong level and representing Australia in international competition.”
“We’re excited to have him join us for the next 18 months as we continue to rebuild the football club,” he said.
Newcastle Jets Interim Chief Executive Officer Mr David Eland said: “Steven’s signing is reflective of the club’s recruitment strategy. Newcastle Jets are committed to engaging players with the ability to assist the club in achieving its long term objectives, which include being a consistently competitive force in the Hyundai A-League and ultimately securing honours.”
This is the kind of single by I was hoping miller might be able to make happen.
Young Aussies no ones heard of that ange and the socceroos set up have on their radars.
Just hope he's not a flop like most others we sign seem to be.
Oh good, we will start playing 3x DM's no doubt and be "hard to beat"...
I thought we already had 9 out there
It is Birraz in goals Milos on half way and 9 other blokes in between.
This bloke should add good competition and depth for our 9 other blokes in between position
WolfMan
08-01-2016, 08:23 AM
far out, we bitch about how shit Watson is, we sign a potential replacement and people complain!
I would rather we fill positions we currently don't have - striker and attacking mid for example - before we strengthen the areas we have cover for, albeit very weak cover
Grimario
08-01-2016, 08:51 AM
This is the kind of single by I was hoping miller might be able to make happen.
Young Aussies no ones heard of that ange and the socceroos set up have on their radars.
Just hope he's not a flop like most others we sign seem to be.
Oi, I've heard of him.
Last time we signed Olyroos, weren't their names Josh and Adam and both got sold for profit? I wouldn't say Chapman or Biraz were bad signings either.
sammydog
08-01-2016, 08:52 AM
I would rather we fill positions we currently don't have - striker and attacking mid for example - before we strengthen the areas we have cover for, albeit very weak cover
Could be a sign that some of these DM's we already have are on the way out at the end of the season.
Grimario
08-01-2016, 09:10 AM
Could be a sign that some of these DM's we already have are on the way out at the end of the season.
Good sign if it's Watson. Would like to keep Kanta but if he's on the amount of coin people keep suggesting, he doesn't seem to be worth it unless we can start spending outside the cap on local products. Of all the 15/16 endings, the only one I would really want to keep apart from Kanta is Biraz and Lundy. The rest are either shit or definitely on too much coin.
1. Mark Birighitti - 15/16
3. Jason Hoffman - 15/16
5. Ben Kantarovski - 15/16
6. Cameron Watson - 15/16
7. Enver Alivodic - 15/16
9. Miloš Trifunović - 15/16
10. Leonardo - 15/16
18. Josh Baressi - 15/16
23. David Carney - 15/16
25. Brandon Lundy - 15/16
28. Ryan Kitto - 15/16 (IR)
2. Daniel Mullen - 16/17
8. Mateo Poljak - 16/17
11. Labinot Halti - 16/17
12. Andy Brennan - 16/17
14. Mitch Cooper - 16/17
15. Themba Marlow - 16/17
17. Radan Pavicevic - 16/17
20. Ben Kennedy - 16/17
22. Lachlan Jackson - 16/17
??. Steven Urgakovic - 16/17
4. Nigel Boogaard - 17/18
24. Nick Cowburn - 17/18
Oi, I've heard of him.
Last time we signed Olyroos, weren't their names Josh and Adam and both got sold for profit? I wouldn't say Chapman or Biraz were bad signings either.
Kitto is an Olyroo.
Allegedly
:rof:
Good sign if it's Watson. Would like to keep Kanta but if he's on the amount of coin people keep suggesting, he doesn't seem to be worth it unless we can start spending outside the cap on local products. Of all the 15/16 endings, the only one I would really want to keep apart from Kanta is Biraz and Lundy. The rest are either shit or definitely on too much coin.
1. Mark Birighitti - 15/16
3. Jason Hoffman - 15/16
5. Ben Kantarovski - 15/16
6. Cameron Watson - 15/16
7. Enver Alivodic - 15/16
9. Miloš Trifunović - 15/16
10. Leonardo - 15/16
18. Josh Baressi - 15/16
23. David Carney - 15/16
25. Brandon Lundy - 15/16
28. Ryan Kitto - 15/16 (IR)
2. Daniel Mullen - 16/17
8. Mateo Poljak - 16/17
11. Labinot Halti - 16/17
12. Andy Brennan - 16/17
14. Mitch Cooper - 16/17
15. Themba Marlow - 16/17
17. Radan Pavicevic - 16/17
20. Ben Kennedy - 16/17
22. Lachlan Jackson - 16/17
??. Steven Urgakovic - 16/17
4. Nigel Boogaard - 17/18
24. Nick Cowburn - 17/18
As for your list there
Obviously we can start shifting some of those on at seasons end whose contract is up by not signing them again
The issue for mine is Millertime needs to be shifting a few of those on in the 16-17 list.
That is where his work is to start thinning them out as quite frankly near all of them are not offering much value as players to us and our predicament
Grimario
08-01-2016, 09:20 AM
Kitto is an Olyroo.
Allegedly
:rof:
He was put on the Olyroos standby list after signing for us... he wasn't before, was he?
Frodo
08-01-2016, 09:41 AM
As for your list there
Obviously we can start shifting some of those on at seasons end whose contract is up by not signing them again
The issue for mine is Millertime needs to be shifting a few of those on in the 16-17 list.
That is where his work is to start thinning them out as quite frankly near all of them are not offering much value as players to us and our predicament
Kennedy, Themba and Brennan yeah i agree. But Mullen, Poljak and Jackson definitely keep. If Cooper doesn't improve and start making the first team i think he will move on at seasons end anyway.
Grimario
08-01-2016, 09:43 AM
Kennedy, Themba and Brennan yeah i agree. But Mullen, Poljak and Jackson definitely keep. If Cooper doesn't improve and start making the first team i think he will move on at seasons end anyway.
Why get rid of Brennan? He hasn't even had a chance to do anything in senior side because of injury. I don't see anything remotely worth keeping with Pavicevic, he'd be on my list of attempted get rids.
Kennedy, Themba and Brennan yeah i agree. But Mullen, Poljak and Jackson definitely keep. If Cooper doesn't improve and start making the first team i think he will move on at seasons end anyway.
Mullen is a HAL level player and reality is we are paying overs for him anyway.
Amongst our lot he looks good but reality is he ain't the greatest in the world anyway. I would let him go if possible
Poljak is a waste of a foreigner spot. He ain't bringing anything to the game that an Aussie couldn't do.
Passing the ball slowly and over the sideline can be done by someone else
Agree on keeping Jackson though
As for the rest of them. All are expendable and non essential MOVING FORWARD
plague
08-01-2016, 10:00 AM
None of you have Griff on your lists it's a ****ing disc-race.
Grimario
08-01-2016, 10:01 AM
None of you have Griff on your lists it's a ****ing disc-race.
I thought it was a given?
lquiquer
08-01-2016, 10:14 AM
He was put on the Olyroos standby list after signing for us... he wasn't before, was he?
Yep....what did Aurelio see in him? We don't have better players to put on standby? ..... :facepalm:
The Dunster
08-01-2016, 10:38 AM
You are a goose!!!!! What about boogaard, hoffman, carney, plus a few others.
No team will ever win the A-league relying on that trio.
To settle for them is to basically be content with never making the finals again.
The Dunster
08-01-2016, 10:43 AM
Oi, I've heard of him.
Last time we signed Olyroos, weren't their names Josh and Adam and both got sold for profit? I wouldn't say Chapman or Biraz were bad signings either.
James Holland did ok for us as well. If this blokes of that calibre then Poljak, Watson, and Kanta will essentially be playing for their spots if not careers.
Poljak still has aother year after this to go but based on his performances would be one of the first I'd get rid of. He doesn't bring enough to the team given he's on good money.
Watson you wouldn't keep at any price.
Kanta - the club need to roll the dice with and pay him a much lower wage. If he leaves then so be it - tired of this club gambling on long shots or blokes not rising to expectations.
Apollo Creed
08-01-2016, 10:54 AM
James Holland did ok for us as well. If this blokes of that calibre then Poljak, Watson, and Kanta will essentially be playing for their spots if not careers.
Poljak still has aother year after this to go but based on his performances would be one of the first I'd get rid of. He doesn't bring enough to the team given he's on good money.
Watson you wouldn't keep at any price.
Kanta - the club need to roll the dice with and pay him a much lower wage. If he leaves then so be it - tired of this club gambling on long shots or blokes not rising to expectations.
new team needed
Frodo
08-01-2016, 11:06 AM
Mullen is a HAL level player and reality is we are paying overs for him anyway.
Amongst our lot he looks good but reality is he ain't the greatest in the world anyway. I would let him go if possible
Poljak is a waste of a foreigner spot. He ain't bringing anything to the game that an Aussie couldn't do.
Passing the ball slowly and over the sideline can be done by someone else
Agree on keeping Jackson though
As for the rest of them. All are expendable and non essential MOVING FORWARD
My thinking was Mullen should stay unless we can find someone better, he is capable enough beside Boogard to justify his place in the team compared to other positions we need to improve on. Although i didn't realise we spent a bit of money on him, that's worrying.
Poljak needs someone else in midfield to run things, he is capable enough at winning the ball and moving it between the guys close to him but we need someone better to run the show and transition the ball from defense to attack. I think he would improve enough with a quality player beside him to keep him at this point in time.
I think we pick either Kanta or Poljak to be our ball-winner and release the other. I thought Kanta was earning more than Poljak and just isn't good enough at any position to keep him. (good at many positions but not great at any of them)
I think we need to fix the front four before we start worrying about defense, Our entire front four as well as Cooper and Pav aren't working. We either change personnel or change the system because we are putting round pegs into square holes half the time.
The Dunster
08-01-2016, 12:26 PM
I'd prefer Kanta over Poljak but neither of them at anything over $130k a season.
Mark325
08-01-2016, 01:21 PM
Here's a video of some of the new guys playing
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tTyFTtcQ5II
Doesn't look half bad, has a good eye for passes and good range, not afraid to take some shots. Good going forward as well, not afraid to get in amongst it and good defensively. Him and Cowburn in the middle of the park would be interesting, Cowburn and him together are both good defensively but can get amongst it and are good at linking play from defence to attack. Wouldn't be the worst, considering they're both cheaper to give them a run in the middle of the park together and see how good they can play together
My thinking was Mullen should stay unless we can find someone better, he is capable enough beside Boogard to justify his place in the team compared to other positions we need to improve on. Although i didn't realise we spent a bit of money on him, that's worrying.
Poljak needs someone else in midfield to run things, he is capable enough at winning the ball and moving it between the guys close to him but we need someone better to run the show and transition the ball from defense to attack. I think he would improve enough with a quality player beside him to keep him at this point in time.
I think we pick either Kanta or Poljak to be our ball-winner and release the other. I thought Kanta was earning more than Poljak and just isn't good enough at any position to keep him. (good at many positions but not great at any of them)
I think we need to fix the front four before we start worrying about defense, Our entire front four as well as Cooper and Pav aren't working. We either change personnel or change the system because we are putting round pegs into square holes half the time.
Now if you think Kanta is better than Poljak but Kanta is not great at any position why are you advocating we choose one of them??
Either they are a definite keeper or we move on without them. Plenty of other options out there. Why limit ourselves with these two??
FFS I would prefer Jobe or Zads than these two
As for Mullen you say if we can't find someone better then we keep him.
Well finding someone better than him on less money is highly achievable as many HAL CD's are better and on less money than him so we move him on too
As for our priority being to fix the attack. We need to fix the whole ****ing club. Not limit ourselves to 4 players
Scourge
08-01-2016, 02:11 PM
I'll say the same thing I said on one of the fan pages.
Nothing against the new signing, but it screams to me of writing the season off. With over 30 points on offer, why are we bolstering our already young squad with more unproven youth and wasting another squad spot.. Especially as he'll be unavailable to us for a few weeks with olyroo duties.
Put him in after the season, trim some of our younger players coming off contract... But use the January transfer window to find a couple of proven players who c an put the goal in the net... Why write the season totally off at this point.
There will be a shit ton of players off contract at the next transfer window, go do your speculative transfers then, rather than now when we have limited spots available.
The Dunster
08-01-2016, 02:26 PM
What's the story with Themba Marlow ? He's signed until 16/17 and I don't think he's even had a start yet.
I mean props to Marlow and his Manager for getting him a contract but why pay someone money to not play ? It makes absolutely no sense.
plague
08-01-2016, 02:43 PM
I mean props to Marlow and his Manager for getting him a contract but why pay someone money to not play ? It makes absolutely no sense.
Obvs has the same agent as Miller as we seem to be paying that bloke not to coach.
Frodo
08-01-2016, 02:49 PM
Now if you think Kanta is better than Poljak but Kanta is not great at any position why are you advocating we choose one of them??
Either they are a definite keeper or we move on without them. Plenty of other options out there. Why limit ourselves with these two??
FFS I would prefer Jobe or Zads than these two
As for Mullen you say if we can't find someone better then we keep him.
Well finding someone better than him on less money is highly achievable as many HAL CD's are better and on less money than him so we move him on too
As for our priority being to fix the attack. We need to fix the whole ****ing club. Not limit ourselves to 4 players
I live in the real world where teams can't cull 15 players in one off season. Also i find it extremely unlikely that we can find not only better players, but ones on cheaper money, who are available to transfer for free (since we don't have an owner to pay for these sorts of things) and who also want to relocate their family/things to Newcastle to come play for us... Once we get over all those hurdles i'll be keen to get rid of every under performing player..
Mullen has been better than Regan/Kew/Mitchell so i say we keep him until we've addressed other problems. Jackson is a solid backup/leftback, Cowburn and 'cringe' Hoffman are good enough to get us clean sheets if we can control the ball better in the middle.
Themba is a curious case.. No one has any idea if he can play so if he can't get a run maybe we should shift him out and just promote some Local Youth players to the bench if we have an injury crisis.
I think Kanta flatters to deceive as a competent midfielder, does a lot of things that show he has potential but has more opportunities than most and still hasn't proved himself as a legitimate talent.
How about we discuss how rubbish Watson is to cheer ourselves up on a Friday afternoon and get ready for more disappointment against Shitney?
Maito Mitch
08-01-2016, 02:54 PM
Obvs has the same agent as Miller as we seem to be paying that bloke not to coach.
Do you ever get bored of sprouting the same old crap? You're about as predictable as the punishment on the field we sit through once a week
plague
08-01-2016, 03:23 PM
Do you ever get bored of sprouting the same old crap? You're about as predictable as the punishment on the field we sit through once a week
when its posts as hilarious as my last few the answer is no, I don't get bored of it.
You should try it, it's good for the soul.
Smeezyy
08-01-2016, 03:56 PM
Should sign Bridgey up but.
parksey
08-01-2016, 04:17 PM
Do you ever get bored of sprouting the same old crap? You're about as predictable as the punishment on the field we sit through once a week
10/10
plague
08-01-2016, 05:14 PM
10/10
I knew you were going to say that.
10/10
I knew you were going to say that.
:lulzturtle:
Maito Mitch
08-01-2016, 06:40 PM
when its posts as hilarious as my last few the answer is no, I don't get bored of it.
You should try it, it's good for the soul.
To keep the Jets reference going, we could say you're the Jets after 5 games, some early laughs, but everyone knows exactly what's coming now.
Do you have a plan b now that everyone's got you worked out??
Anyway, any news on Carney out? Might free up some cash to make a play for someone like Connor Pain. Not a bad swap imo
plague
08-01-2016, 06:55 PM
Anyway, any news on Carney out? Might free up some cash to make a play for someone like Connor Pain. Not a bad swap imo
You don't like Carney?
plague
08-01-2016, 06:58 PM
Do you have a plan b now that everyone's got you worked out??
I said nice things about the new Star Wars movie.
You prob didn't see that coming.
Maito Mitch
09-01-2016, 06:36 AM
You don't like Carney?
I'm not his biggest fan. He's certainly not a long term option, so if we can make some money off him now, and get a younger, faster replacement, seems like a no brainer to me.
Knowing the Jets though, we'll mutually agree to terminate his contract, pay for his flights to the middle east and play Watson on the wing for the rest of the season.
Amidoingitright?
Maito Mitch
09-01-2016, 06:38 AM
I said nice things about the new Star Wars movie.
You prob didn't see that coming.
You're right, I didn't. Kudos etc.
Lets hope Miller's got some surprises like that up his sleeve today!
You're right, I didn't. Kudos etc.
Lets hope Miller's got some surprises like that up his sleeve today!
What like play with 8 DM and 2 up front??
Or maybe go the full hog and play 10 DM and Birraz and park the bus properly??
plague
09-01-2016, 09:32 AM
Knowing the Jets though, we'll mutually agree to terminate his contract, pay for his flights to the middle east and play Watson on the wing for the rest of the season.
Yeah see I was poised to give this posts many stars and rainbows but then y'all will come down on me as a negative nancy so I'll just be over here doing my thing.
(It's a good post though)
Premy
09-01-2016, 09:36 AM
I feel the need to come to the defense of Kanta.
The bloke is 23 or 24 still has his best Football ahead of him and Jeterpool will provide the correct figure but over 100 caps for the Club. The Club has spent too much time and money on him to just walk away from him next season. Has he done enough to warrant a pay rise? No... Has he done anything to deserve being dropped or offered a pay cut? IMO No...
Give him another 2 year contract on the same his on now and if he thinks his worth more than good luck to him in his future endeavors.
24 years old, over 100 caps, and a local lads FFS this is someone who should be our poster boy not someone who we should just be cutting off like an infected limb.
Tommyjet
09-01-2016, 09:41 AM
I feel the need to come to the defense of Kanta.
The bloke is 23 or 24 still has his best Football ahead of him and Jeterpool will provide the correct figure but over 100 caps for the Club. The Club has spent too much time and money on him to just walk away from him next season. Has he done enough to warrant a pay rise? No... Has he done anything to deserve being dropped or offered a pay cut? IMO No...
Give him another 2 year contract on the same his on now and if he thinks his worth more than good luck to him in his future endeavors.
24 years old, over 100 caps, and a local lads FFS this is someone who should be our poster boy not someone who we should just be cutting off like an infected limb.
With the new salary cap allowances available to clubs I think Kanta's contract can be moved outside the cap either as our home grown player or long service player. Someone clarify that?
Imo he should definitely be re-signed. Watson let go and also explore options releasing poljak if he doesn't bring more game in the back half of the season.
With the new salary cap allowances available to clubs I think Kanta's contract can be moved outside the cap either as our home grown player or long service player. Someone clarify that?
Imo he should definitely be re-signed. Watson let go and also explore options releasing poljak if he doesn't bring more game in the back half of the season.
Yeh thats correct! Both BK's are eligible for them. Would hoffman be eligible for the home grown player too?
Watson needs to go. My 6 yr old daughter is better than him
riverboy
09-01-2016, 07:08 PM
With the new salary cap allowances available to clubs I think Kanta's contract can be moved outside the cap either as our home grown player or long service player. Someone clarify that?
Imo he should definitely be re-signed. Watson let go and also explore options releasing poljak if he doesn't bring more game in the back half of the season.
I cant see kanta or anyone else eligible contract paid outside the cap unless the ffa find a buyer. The ffa will only pay the minimum salary cap.
I hope that Miller can turn this club around but Im concerned. The recent olyroo signing shows two things.
Firstly Miller has probably or maybe given up on this year. Otherwise why havent we ALREADY signed one or two attacking players that are needed. He said a couple of weeks ago that he wanted 2-3 players available for the first game after transfer window opened.
What has he done, signed a player where we have 4 players that can play that position. He is showing no faith in those players, 3 of which he signed. The Olyroo isnt available for 3 weeks, so he can hardly help in team in the meantime.
Secondly, Miller has shown and stated that he want Australian Under age reps to be the way forward. All good in theory, but can this club attract those players? Can we develop them?
Im a fan and i will stick solid and support the team. I will support miller, but he does worry me. I have only coached the odd under age and all age team, even I can see there is not enough attacking players or competition in the front third. Surely Miller can see the same??? Especially given his background.
idontwannaplaywithhowey
10-01-2016, 08:43 AM
As for Mullen you say if we can't find someone better then we keep him.
Well finding someone better than him on less money is highly achievable as many HAL CD's are better and on less money than him so we move him on too
s
As someone unaware of contract figures etc can you tell me:
1) how much is Mullen on.
2) who are the better defenders and how much they are on.
3) why they would come to Newcastle.
I'm not his biggest fan. He's certainly not a long term option, so if we can make some money off him now, and get a younger, faster replacement, ?
have you any idea of the players we recruit? We will find the next biggest dud to replace Carney
Frodo
11-01-2016, 08:14 AM
So i half expected to come back here and read that it had already happened but are we going to sign Nick Fitzgerald? It just seems like exactly the sort of thing we would do. Not good enough for a team coming last but because he is only 24 we will sign him and 'give him a second chance'?
Tommyjet
11-01-2016, 07:46 PM
Apparently we tried for devante clut but Brisbane has refused to release him
Apparently we tried for devante clut but Brisbane has refused to release him
Good to see we are aiming for players who can turn our season around.
Frodo
12-01-2016, 07:11 AM
Good to see we are aiming for players who can turn our season around.
Not sure if Sarcasm or real talk?
The Camel
12-01-2016, 09:10 AM
Good to see we are aiming for players who can turn our season around.
Shame we could not get this one done, I am a big fan of Clut, would definitely strengthen us and give us a good young player going forward. Brisbane have got a great crop of young players in Clut, Bowles, Brown, Donachie, Borello, MacLaren. Any one of those guys is a walk up first 11 player at the jets.
WolfMan
12-01-2016, 10:01 AM
Clut, Bowles and Borello all off contract at season's end...
Glad to see Miller is persisting in his vision and trying to get a squad of 20 Defensive midfielders 1 striker and 2 keepers on the books.
Exactly why after signing the bloke the other day are we still looking for midfielders??
How about someone out wide so that Alividoic bloke who is playing like a busted arsehole can be dropped??
Or a striker who actually aint a lazy **** and can score goals??
Or a No 10 who plays games more than 1 in 4??
Or better yet someone so we can **** Carney off to the Arabian Desert ??
WolfMan
12-01-2016, 10:05 AM
Glad to see Miller is persisting in his vision and trying to get a squad of 20 Defensive midfielders 1 striker and 2 keepers on the books.
Exactly why after signing the bloke the other day are we still looking for midfielders??
How about someone out wide so that Alividoic bloke who is playing like a busted arsehole can be dropped??
Or a striker who actually aint a lazy **** and can score goals??
Or a No 10 who plays games more than 1 in 4??
Or better yet someone so we can **** Carney off to the Arabian Desert ??
Let the hate flow through you... Also, I can't really argue with any of that
The Camel
12-01-2016, 10:09 AM
Glad to see Miller is persisting in his vision and trying to get a squad of 20 Defensive midfielders 1 striker and 2 keepers on the books.
Exactly why after signing the bloke the other day are we still looking for midfielders??
How about someone out wide so that Alividoic bloke who is playing like a busted arsehole can be dropped??
Or a striker who actually aint a lazy **** and can score goals??
Or a No 10 who plays games more than 1 in 4??
Or better yet someone so we can **** Carney off to the Arabian Desert ??
Do not want to burst the hate bubble but I'd see Clut as a No. 10 not a DM
Tommyjet
12-01-2016, 10:12 AM
Do not want to burst the hate bubble but I'd see Clut as a No. 10 not a DM
Clut is most definitely a no. 10. Anyone who thinks otherwise should check their facts before commenting
Do not want to burst the hate bubble but I'd see Clut as a No. 10 not a DM
As if we play with a No 10 anyway??
Millers preferred Formation is Birraz in goals
9 blokes acting as DM
Milos isolated up front
plague
12-01-2016, 10:53 AM
Clut is most definitely a no. 10. Anyone who thinks otherwise should check their facts before commenting
Awe cmon man don't get me out here having to defend the good Members posts.
Even Stevie Wonder saw that one (even though Stevie isn't really blind but that's for another thread).
Always, ALWAYS, read the Members posts at least 4 times before replying. There's sometimes some very nice jabs in there, but of course if it's still mindless dribble after 4 goes then yeah, whack away because he's probably being a crazy person.
Jeterpool
12-01-2016, 11:01 AM
Apparently we tried for devante clut but Brisbane has refused to release him
That's disappointing. I wonder if the player is keen whether he or his agent can put pressure on the Roar?
Reading the article on TWG it sounds like they are going to be very picky about what's best for his development. I doubt we'd see him.
We have Cooper and Baressi and we don't use them for whatever reason, deciding instead to play a winger out of position. That could discourage them.
Frodo
12-01-2016, 11:12 AM
We have Cooper and Baressi and we don't use them for whatever reason, deciding instead to play a winger out of position. That could discourage them.
^^^^THIS^^^^
Our DMs get more game time there than our actual 10.
Roundball Enthusiast
12-01-2016, 11:15 AM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroo-james-troisi-contemplating-adelaide-a-league-switch-after-release-from-saudi-team/story-e6frf423-1227705646899
Make it happen FFA.
We all know it wont though.
Jeterpool
12-01-2016, 11:26 AM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroo-james-troisi-contemplating-adelaide-a-league-switch-after-release-from-saudi-team/story-e6frf423-1227705646899
Make it happen FFA.
We all know it wont though.
Need to go for him
Whenever he comes on for the Socceroos, I froth up about how on earth Ange's rent-boy gets a run..
However, I would have him at the Jets in a heartbeat..
Wilso8948
12-01-2016, 11:34 AM
Another article on Fox suggested possible asian targets etc. One was Younis Mahmoud Iraqi captain who showed large interest in a move down under at the Asia cup. Was a shining light in their team and was easily still cutting it at 32. Proven goal scorer on the international stage.
Roundball Enthusiast
12-01-2016, 11:39 AM
Another article on Fox suggested possible asian targets etc. One was Younis Mahmoud Iraqi captain who showed large interest in a move down under at the Asia cup. Was a shining light in their team and was easily still cutting it at 32. Proven goal scorer on the international stage.
32, used to score goals. Probably injury prone, sounds like someone we'd go for.
32, used to score goals. Probably injury prone, sounds like someone we'd go for.
Cant be
This bloke can actually play
Don't sound like anything we would sign
Roundball Enthusiast
12-01-2016, 11:47 AM
Cant be
This bloke can actually play
Don't sound like anything we would sign
He CAN play, or could play 4-5 months ago? Could be on the down hill slope. Perfect for us.
He CAN play, or could play 4-5 months ago? Could be on the down hill slope. Perfect for us.
He is on the downhill slope??
Give him another 3 years then and he should be just about ripe enough for us.
Far too early for us to sign him. There is still the possibility we could get some value from him
Frodo
12-01-2016, 12:02 PM
His Wiki page, which is totally reliable... says he only played AFC games at his last club cause he didn't want to play against his former team in the league. He may be unfit then. Perfect for us.
I found this interesting list, i wonder if we could attract any of these guys with the prospect of more international coverage and better lifestyle outside of football?
https://www.oneworldsports.com/stories/afc-u23-championship-players-watch
The Dunster
12-01-2016, 12:12 PM
Clut is most definitely a no. 10. Anyone who thinks otherwise should check their facts before commenting
It's against Jets policy to play anyone in their natural position.
Clut will be converted to a sweeper then be told by the club we don't play a formation that requires a sweeper - and then he will be left out of the playing squad until his contract expires.
Go Jets!
Wilso8948
12-01-2016, 12:14 PM
He CAN play, or could play 4-5 months ago? Could be on the down hill slope. Perfect for us.
The bloke was class at the Asia cup
Beeen
12-01-2016, 12:18 PM
His Wiki page, which is totally reliable... says he only played AFC games at his last club cause he didn't want to play against his former team in the league. He may be unfit then. Perfect for us.
I found this interesting list, i wonder if we could attract any of these guys with the prospect of more international coverage and better lifestyle outside of football?
https://www.oneworldsports.com/stories/afc-u23-championship-players-watch
Mate, you and Carney together rippin cones. Not a chance we can attract any off that list.
Mate, you and Carney together rippin cones.
Whackin' off with Foxy in the Essington..
stopper2
12-01-2016, 02:32 PM
Glad to see Miller is persisting in his vision and trying to get a squad of 20 Defensive midfielders 1 striker and 2 keepers on the books.
Exactly why after signing the bloke the other day are we still looking for midfielders??
How about someone out wide so that Alividoic bloke who is playing like a busted arsehole can be dropped??
Or a striker who actually aint a lazy **** and can score goals??
Or a No 10 who plays games more than 1 in 4??
Or better yet someone so we can **** Carney off to the Arabian Desert ??
Yep, it's nearly mid-July and our new additions in the Jan Transfer window are a defensive/holding style midfielder (Ugarkovic)...who won't be available for 3 weeks and the promotion from the Youth squad (Cowburn),a centre midfielder/defender. To me these decisions aren't based on a desperate urgency to address the immediate fact that we basically can't score goals. I think if you asked any Jets supporter, 95% would say our priorities are a striker and a #10, as these are 2 positions which are so critical to a teams potency in front of goal and the lack of depth and quality in these 2 positions is easily the worst in the whole A League.
If another week goes by and we still have not signed either a #9 or a #10, I think every supporter is entitled to ask of Miller and Eland.....
"WTF is going on?"
The Postman
12-01-2016, 09:48 PM
#Iran captain Andranik Teymourian has left #QSL side Umm Salal by mutual consent
Benny O on the Twitter "Good player. ⚽️"
But does he play Defensive Mid?
sammydog
12-01-2016, 11:17 PM
Wikipedia, the source of all knowledge, has him signed for 4 months wiht Qatar SC.
Premy
13-01-2016, 09:24 AM
Why haven't we signed John Arne yet? Farken Jerks
Tommyjet
13-01-2016, 09:36 AM
Shane smeltz sounds out of favour, thoughts?
front2
13-01-2016, 09:57 AM
Kick the Jets into shape and use an early exit clause to go back home and play for Nix.
stopper2
13-01-2016, 12:05 PM
It's against Jets policy to play anyone in their natural position.
Clut will be converted to a sweeper then be told by the club we don't play a formation that requires a sweeper - and then he will be left out of the playing squad until his contract expires.
Go Jets!
Yes, been happening for years now, especially in the Youth team. Been well documented with Hoole and Cowburn and many who follow our Youth team know of Pappas (now with Mariners), who was played mainly at RB and CB in his time but he was a CM prior to coming to the Jets.
Another one that probably not many are aware of is current LB in the Youth Ben Hay. Throughout his junior days and then playing for the old NSWIS he was always an attacking player. Could hit the ball with both his left and right peg just as confidently, willing to take on players with pace and strength, good at dead-ball situations too. Could basically play anywhere in the front third, out wide or centrally and even deeper as a #8.
This kid came to the Jets Youth at 16 as a rough diamond with the potential to develop into one of or best attacking players with the right coaching and people with the knowledge and know-how to get him up to the next level. Likes of Pascoe and GVE convert him to a LB where he has "developed" for the past 3 years and it's a shame we will never find out how good this kid could have been.
Jetmaster
13-01-2016, 12:14 PM
Should sign Bridgey up but.
Didn't realise this but quietly it seems Bridgey has left these shores for good....
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/amateur-football/former-newcastle-united-sunderland-star-10715856
stopper2
13-01-2016, 12:26 PM
Didn't realise this but quietly it seems Bridgey has left these shores for good....
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/amateur-football/former-newcastle-united-sunderland-star-10715856
I hope people now realise that he always was in it for himself (which really is his own perogative). I think his goal here in Newy was to eventually be the head coach but I think in the end he had his fingers in "too many pies" so to speak and I think a lot of people were starting to find out his true character which was quite different from the one portrayed by his buddies in the media. Newcastle Jets Legend....pffttt!
Didn't realise this but quietly it seems Bridgey has left these shores for good....
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/amateur-football/former-newcastle-united-sunderland-star-10715856
I reckon there must be one bloke in the West Lakes of Gypo doing cartwheels in the streets at the moment
5 5 5
Speaking of that bloke where is he hiding these days??
Still working on the Sheep Quiz answers I hope
5 5 5
I reckon there must be one bloke in the West Lakes of Gypo doing cartwheels in the streets at the moment
5 5 5
Speaking of that bloke where is he hiding these days??
Still working on the Sheep Quiz answers I hope
5 5 5
hahaha..
I believe that fatherhood has him pretty damn busy atm..
That and his beloved gypsies have been winning a few games lately..
Jetmaster
13-01-2016, 05:02 PM
Fatherhood in Gypoland means six kids to six different mothers....would have you running around for sure.
stopper2
14-01-2016, 01:05 PM
Apparently we were after Lustica as well as Clut. Not exactly sure if this was prior to signing Urgakovic or in the past few days. If after signing Urgakovic they are pursuing Lustica then can only assume maybe someone (Watson?) is going to be released or they have no farken clue!!!
Mark325
14-01-2016, 01:06 PM
That's disappointing. I wonder if the player is keen whether he or his agent can put pressure on the Roar?
Reading the article on TWG it sounds like they are going to be very picky about what's best for his development. I doubt we'd see him.
We have Cooper and Baressi and we don't use them for whatever reason, deciding instead to play a winger out of position. That could discourage them.
I don't see us keeping nearly any of our attacking mids come next season. Leonardo is injured too much, no coach would keep a player who can't keep his fitness up. Baressi still hasn't got a run in the one and a half seasons he's been here and there's no signs of that changing. Cooper hardly gets a run as is, wouldn't be surprised to see him leave before his contract is up, which even with Clut on the books would be a big mistake. Kitto is playing out of position so shouldn't even be considered here but he's been terrible at attacking mid and got shafted at half time last game so I don't see his run in that position lasting too much longer. Essentially, by the time we get Clut I'd say we won't really have anyone to contend with him.
Tommyjet
14-01-2016, 02:03 PM
Apparently we were after Lustica as well as Clut. Not exactly sure if this was prior to signing Urgakovic or in the past few days. If after signing Urgakovic they are pursuing Lustica then can only assume maybe someone (Watson?) is going to be released or they have no farken clue!!!
Not 100% sure but I think lustica and ugarkovic are cousins.
riverboy
14-01-2016, 02:03 PM
Yep, it's nearly mid-July and our new additions in the Jan Transfer window are a defensive/holding style midfielder (Ugarkovic)...who won't be available for 3 weeks and the promotion from the Youth squad (Cowburn),a centre midfielder/defender. To me these decisions aren't based on a desperate urgency to address the immediate fact that we basically can't score goals. I think if you asked any Jets supporter, 95% would say our priorities are a striker and a #10, as these are 2 positions which are so critical to a teams potency in front of goal and the lack of depth and quality in these 2 positions is easily the worst in the whole A League.
If another week goes by and we still have not signed either a #9 or a #10, I think every supporter is entitled to ask of Miller and Eland.....
"WTF is going on?"
Good post, I think everyone agrees. Time for miller to pull his finger out.
One thing thats clear is that good recruitment is vital at the start of the year. The January transfer market works well in Europe when clubs can buy in to fix whatever problems needed.
But in the A league its a different mater. The salary cap means its hard to fix any major problems like the jets have. Clubs can only really get free agents, no decent players will get released from contracts for nothing. This is the case with Clut, why would Brisbane release him?
The other problem is that clubs cant really afford to get rid of players as it still counts against the salary cap. So a player like Leonardo that is unavailable most of the time takes up a spot and money on the roster. Therefore recruitment at the start of the season is vital.
Basically Miller has had weeks to work on bringing in players. He has one foreign spot to fill, that should have been the easy one as there would be loads of foreign free agents after the end of leagues in asia, america and sth america. Clubs in Europe would also be looking to offload players to reduce wage bill and bring in their own new players.
The Australian recruitment would have been a little more difficult. But there are many australians abroad in lower leagues, some struggling for game time.Even state league players may have done a job. Miller should have searched hard and wide and had players in now.
plague
14-01-2016, 02:16 PM
i love this thread solely for the hope in the voices of the people as we whilstfully type names that we think will be stupid enough to come here.
then when we end up signing Hoffman 3.0 the despair (whilst hilarious) makes me feel sad for you guys.
your hearts are in the right place, and you are good people. but make no mistake about it, this team hates you and delights in crushing your soul.
Jeterpool
14-01-2016, 02:37 PM
i love this thread solely for the hope in the voices of the people as we whilst fully type names that we think will be stupid enough to come here.
then when we end up signing Hoffman 3.0 the despair (whilst hilarious) makes me feel sad for you guys.
your hearts are in the right place, and you are good people. but make no mistake about it, this team hates you and delights in crushing your soul.
Thanks for the kind words mate
Premy
14-01-2016, 03:44 PM
No Riise yet? Jerks...
Good post, I think everyone agrees. Time for miller to pull his finger out.
One thing thats clear is that good recruitment is vital at the start of the year. The January transfer market works well in Europe when clubs can buy in to fix whatever problems needed.
But in the A league its a different mater. The salary cap means its hard to fix any major problems like the jets have. Clubs can only really get free agents, no decent players will get released from contracts for nothing. This is the case with Clut, why would Brisbane release him?
The other problem is that clubs cant really afford to get rid of players as it still counts against the salary cap. So a player like Leonardo that is unavailable most of the time takes up a spot and money on the roster. Therefore recruitment at the start of the season is vital.
Basically Miller has had weeks to work on bringing in players. He has one foreign spot to fill, that should have been the easy one as there would be loads of foreign free agents after the end of leagues in asia, america and sth america. Clubs in Europe would also be looking to offload players to reduce wage bill and bring in their own new players.
The Australian recruitment would have been a little more difficult. But there are many australians abroad in lower leagues, some struggling for game time.Even state league players may have done a job. Miller should have searched hard and wide and had players in now.
Miller is probably too busy with league games trying to snag a win, to be spending time scouting worldwide.
Given that we have no support staff there's no else to do it either. You're asking too much mid-season.
The Dunster
14-01-2016, 04:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh5ihHBvU-s
Miller would sign this bloke in a heartbeat.
Jeterpool
14-01-2016, 05:07 PM
No Riise yet? Jerks...
'Kn oath
Garcia too
LIverpool fans :lulzturtle:
Jeterpool
15-01-2016, 10:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh5ihHBvU-s
Miller would sign this bloke in a heartbeat.
:gent: We need a second dead ball specialist option
Jeterpool
15-01-2016, 10:42 AM
LIverpool fans :lulzturtle:
:grin:
:gent: We need a second dead ball specialist option
we need a lot of things :deadhorse:
Jetmaster
15-01-2016, 10:46 AM
What about this kid?
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3664529/virgili-back-at-magic-for-npl/?cs=306
:wink:
What about this kid?
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3664529/virgili-back-at-magic-for-npl/?cs=306
:wink:
would take him back in a heartbeat
easily more dangerous than any of Alivodic, Lundy, Crowley, Brennan, Kitto, Pavicevic...
riverboy
15-01-2016, 11:02 AM
would take him back in a heartbeat
easily more dangerous than any of Alivodic, Lundy, Crowley, Brennan, Kitto, Pavicevic...
Virgili would have been worth the risk. Would have come cheap and left majority of free money for foreign striker or no 10.
Wilso8948
15-01-2016, 11:49 AM
Had his chance. Pass
Had his chance. Pass
Chances, goes better at running than passing and scoring.
Would ge well at Athletics thats about it.
The Dunster
15-01-2016, 02:37 PM
Virgilli's success at state league and NYL level demonstrates just how much of a leap it is into A-league. He's a very talented footballer but unfortunately not talented enough.
He's also proof enough for me why we shouldn't be wasting our time trialling, let alone signing players without solid records at A-league level or better.
The fantasy of extracting a future A-League star from the lesser leagues may be exciting but the reality is you will waste far too much time and resources on what nearly always turns out to be a massive fail.
stopper2
15-01-2016, 03:40 PM
^^^
Virgili has some good qualities as a footballer and will probably tear up the NNSW NPL but at A League level there is just not enough "end product". This as a club has been our biggest and continues to be our biggest downfall....signing players who don't provide that cutting edge you require in the front third to basically score goals or provide assists on a consistent basis. Victory has about 4-5 of these players (Berisha, Finkler,Barbarouses etc), City has at least 3 (Novillo, Mooy, Fornaroli), Roar has 3-4 (Broich, MacLaren, Borrello etc) and so on and so on. Who have we got, maybe Carney who in half a season last year provided some regular assists and even this year is probably the only one who can knock in a quality delivery or free-kick.
Virgili unfortunately had some shit coaches in his development but you can only judge him by his performances, yes he would come cheap but he will not make one iota of difference to this side.
riverboy
15-01-2016, 03:43 PM
Virgilli's success at state league and NYL level demonstrates just how much of a leap it is into A-league. He's a very talented footballer but unfortunately not talented enough.
He's also proof enough for me why we shouldn't be wasting our time trialling, let alone signing players without solid records at A-league level or better.
The fantasy of extracting a future A-League star from the lesser leagues may be exciting but the reality is you will waste far too much time and resources on what nearly always turns out to be a massive fail.
Virgilli certainly has rhe talent. I don't think theres any doubt over that. He probably hasnt taken his chance at A league level which is left him back at NPL Level.
I read alot of guys bagging the likes of Virgilli and NPL level players. But seriously where are the jets going to get their players???? Heard of the salary cap??? I say use the money and get a good foreigner and give a young aussie kid a go.
Grimario
15-01-2016, 04:02 PM
Virgilli certainly has rhe talent. I don't think theres any doubt over that. He probably hasnt taken his chance at A league level which is left him back at NPL Level.
I read alot of guys bagging the likes of Virgilli and NPL level players. But seriously where are the jets going to get their players???? Heard of the salary cap??? I say use the money and get a good foreigner and give a young aussie kid a go.
We had a squad of players that were youth reps across the board. We gave young aussie kids a go and our coaching sucked.
Biraz
Neville - Chapman - (Jackson) - (PlusOne)
Kanta - Beard - (Cowburn)
Hoole - Taggart - Goodwin
In my mind, this is exactly the sort of squad we should be assembling on a regular basis. It's the only way to be financially viable outside of a capital city market - recruit youngsters, fill the gaps with quality imports, sell youngsters for profit. You'll get the occasional player that never amounts to more than an average to good HAL player (Kanta may be a good example of that) and they will be your long term club heroes you aim to keep forever.
riverboy
15-01-2016, 04:56 PM
We had a squad of players that were youth reps across the board. We gave young aussie kids a go and our coaching sucked.
Biraz
Neville - Chapman - (Jackson) - (PlusOne)
Kanta - Beard - (Cowburn)
Hoole - Taggart - Goodwin
In my mind, this is exactly the sort of squad we should be assembling on a regular basis. It's the only way to be financially viable outside of a capital city market - recruit youngsters, fill the gaps with quality imports, sell youngsters for profit. You'll get the occasional player that never amounts to more than an average to good HAL player (Kanta may be a good example of that) and they will be your long term club heroes you aim to keep forever.
Fantasy league football. Most of those names are gone and probably wont come back. Time to move on.
Isnt Kitto a younger player that was recruited? I guess he is not everyones cup of tea.
People must remember it is the Newcastle Jets and the squad should reflect that. The squad should contain at least a third of local products.
Grimario
15-01-2016, 05:20 PM
Fantasy league football. Most of those names are gone and probably wont come back. Time to move on.
Isnt Kitto a younger player that was recruited? I guess he is not everyones cup of tea.
People must remember it is the Newcastle Jets and the squad should reflect that. The squad should contain at least a third of local products.
I am not saying we should get them back. I am saying we had them and we gave young Aussie kids a go like you are suggesting. I am saying our coaching was shit and most of them have moved on to bigger and better things.
I've not seen Kitto play. I've not watched a Jets game in months and feel so much better for it.
The Dunster
15-01-2016, 05:43 PM
We had a squad of players that were youth reps across the board. We gave young aussie kids a go and our coaching sucked.
Biraz
Neville - Chapman - (Jackson) - (PlusOne)
Kanta - Beard - (Cowburn)
Hoole - Taggart - Goodwin
In my mind, this is exactly the sort of squad we should be assembling on a regular basis. It's the only way to be financially viable outside of a capital city market - recruit youngsters, fill the gaps with quality imports, sell youngsters for profit. You'll get the occasional player that never amounts to more than an average to good HAL player (Kanta may be a good example of that) and they will be your long term club heroes you aim to keep forever.
You are never going to win a comp building an A-League team with youth rep players because too many of them don't make it to the next level or have a few good seasons and fade off into oblivion like Musalik, Sarkies, Patafta, Brown, and so on.
Worse still is that the better ones command far more than they are worth because their manager dangle the transfer fee carrot in front of the dumb as a box of rocks Jets management.
The ones you do get cheap that work out are usually gone in a season if you are lucky, then never to be seen again - leaving you with a massive gap in your roster you simply cannot fill which has a snow ball effect on the rest of the shit in your squad.
Grimario
15-01-2016, 06:01 PM
I didn't say anything about winning, just financial viability. The salary floor will guarantee we are never financially viable unless there's a big change in tv revenue.
parksey
15-01-2016, 10:01 PM
apparently david williams is off overseas
riverboy
15-01-2016, 10:32 PM
Just read hersi travelling to central coast for trial with mariners. Too old i reckon, they can have him.
Also seen a report that phil stubbins had agreed a deal with milos ninkovic before he was axed.
Makes you wonder what could have been? He is quality.
lquiquer
15-01-2016, 10:38 PM
Just read hersi travelling to central coast for trial with mariners. Too old i reckon, they can have him.
Also seen a report that phil stubbins had agreed a deal with milos ninkovic before he was axed.
Makes you wonder what could have been? He is quality.
Don't know about Hersi but Ninkovic is fact.... When Muppet when to Europe last year he lined up Ninkovic with us, but he got axed and happened that Ninkovic and Dimitrivic know one another and got to talk, put the word to Arnie and bingo signed for FC...
Don't know about Hersi but Ninkovic is fact.... When Muppet when to Europe last year he lined up Ninkovic with us, but he got axed and happened that Ninkovic and Dimitrivic know one another and got to talk, put the word to Arnie and bingo signed for FC...
Ninkovic is fact??
So Muppet says.
Find it hard to believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
:rof:
riverboy
16-01-2016, 03:38 PM
Muppet might have been not the best coach but he did better with foreign signings then the other coaches.
Lee ki-je was one of if not the best foreigner we have had ever. Ninkovic is in the top 3 players in the league. Hard to bag muppet on that.
Apparently he had other foreigners lined up for this year.
Talent scout maybe his future.
Muppet might have been not the best coach but he did better with foreign signings then the other coaches.
Lee ki-je was one of if not the best foreigner we have had ever. Ninkovic is in the top 3 players in the league. Hard to bag muppet on that.
Apparently he had other foreigners lined up for this year.
Talent scout maybe his future.
I have been pretty vocal hammering Muppet in the past but have said before he was good at signing good players
Getting them to play well was another story.
May well be his calling in football as a scout as he has a good record
Muppet might have been not the best coach but he did better with foreign signings then the other coaches.
Lee ki-je was one of if not the best foreigner we have had ever. Ninkovic is in the top 3 players in the league. Hard to bag muppet on that.
Apparently he had other foreigners lined up for this year.
Talent scout maybe his future.
How are things in S.A. Phil ?.
Thomas477
16-01-2016, 04:01 PM
Lee ki-je was one of if not the best foreigner we have had ever.
Kidding right?
Corbo, Coveny, Brown, Milton, Song, Vigs, Fiorentini, Kew, Heskey, Ritter, Brockie, Ali, Byun & Denni all had more of an impact that Ki-Je
Premy
16-01-2016, 04:44 PM
Corbo
:wub:
parksey
16-01-2016, 04:54 PM
lee was honking this season
riverboy
17-01-2016, 08:53 AM
Kidding right?
Corbo, Coveny, Brown, Milton, Song, Vigs, Fiorentini, Kew, Heskey, Ritter, Brockie, Ali, Byun & Denni all had more of an impact that Ki-Je
You serious???? Not quite sure if this a joke. Is ot April 1 already??
To start with Corbo was good if you just wanted a left back to pump it up the line. Slow and low skill level. Good at hacking players. They got him from low level english football. Why didnt the jets want to keep him then?? Because corbo was crap.
Coveny did a reasonable job, but he came to the club past his best.
Brown was just a standard A league player.
Milton was great when he was here. A good fit at the time for the jets.
Song was also quality. A good signing.
Vigs was dissapointing whilst in a jets shirt. Had good pedigree but failed to deliver.
Fiorentini was just a squad player that they got from lower levels in italy. Tried hard but hardly special.
Kew was decent. No doubting that.
Heskey was quality. A good fit for the jets. Fell away in second year.
Ritter was ok, hasnt done anything since leaving the jets.
Brockie was the one name on that list that performed for more then a season. A good player.
Ali again whilst at jets was just a squad player. Has kicked on a bit since then.
Byun was a sydney reject. Jets needed a left back. He was available. Was shown the door by GVE pretty quickly for a reason.
And Denni??? He was crap. Jets won the league but then got rid of him because he was crap.
Lee Ki-je was quality. Sure he didn't perform as well this year. But last he was excellent in a poor team.
How many of those names picked up a decent transfer fee for the jets?
How many of those names performed as well if not better then Lee Ki-je
Brockie and Milton id say.
Heskey, song and kew at same level.
As for the other 9 names. Tried hard but nowhere near the quality of Lee Ki-ji. Theres a reason he has played as a south korean under age international. Imagine if he was in a good team.
plague
17-01-2016, 09:34 AM
If you don't understand why Corbo and Vigs made an impact then you obviously didn't watch them play.
The Postman
17-01-2016, 12:53 PM
Cameron Joice coming back to the Jets Youth for the NPL season after 2 years at the AIS, full squad to be named soon.
riverboy
17-01-2016, 01:47 PM
If you don't understand why Corbo and Vigs made an impact then you obviously didn't watch them play.
Your not their manager are you???? Please..... Corbo played year one, The A league has improved drastically since then. I respect Corbo as a professional, but really its like compairing a horse thats won a maiden at taree to a class 1 at randwick.
Corbo wouldnt clean Lee Ki-je's boots.
Vigs was quality, but sadly for the jets was past his best.
Obviously you were at the bar or toilet when corbo was playing? Or maybe you have just seen a highlights package on youtube.
plague
17-01-2016, 02:03 PM
Your not their manager are you???? Please..... Corbo played year one, The A league has improved drastically since then. I respect Corbo as a professional, but really its like compairing a horse thats won a maiden at taree to a class 1 at randwick.
Corbo wouldnt clean Lee Ki-je's boots.
Vigs was quality, but sadly for the jets was past his best.
Obviously you were at the bar or toilet when corbo was playing? Or maybe you have just seen a highlights package on youtube.
Still a long way off but I appreciate your* hustle.
Good job.
Go Jets.
stopper2
17-01-2016, 09:48 PM
Ninkovic is fact??
So Muppet says.
Find it hard to believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
:rof:
supposedly he had Ninkovic lined up as our Marquee.....all good Phil, but who was going to pay the extra $$$ for a Marquee's wages!!!
Typical "smokescreens and mirrors" bullshit from old Muppet
stopper2
17-01-2016, 10:20 PM
Starting to think that the signing of Ugarkovic is a sign that Miller feels he just does not have enough quality in the middle of the park. Especially after todays performance against a poor Nix side it's apparent we do not have a leader/dominant player to dictate the game. Half-way through the season I think it's fair to say that Kanta, Poljak and Watson are below average to average midfielders who would struggle to make just about any other first XI side in the A League. I thought Kanta early on in the season had turned the corner but once again he has had a brain explosion in a game with a rash, un-called for challenge. Poljak has been one of our better players in some games but like today he can very poor as well, lacking consistency. Watson has had enough chances to impress but appears to have dropped below youngster Cowburn in the pecking order.
Will be interesting to see what Ugarkovic offers to the side but we cannot carry 3-4 average midfielders in the squad for another season.
furns
17-01-2016, 10:56 PM
I would be quite happy to see the back of Watson
Kanta should get dropped in favor of Poljak and Cowburn. If he doesn't pull his socks up, he can go at end of season. He has probably been around the club too long and needs a fresh challenge.
The Dunster
17-01-2016, 11:31 PM
Starting to think that the signing of Ugarkovic is a sign that Miller feels he just does not have enough quality in the middle of the park. Especially after todays performance against a poor Nix side it's apparent we do not have a leader/dominant player to dictate the game. Half-way through the season I think it's fair to say that Kanta, Poljak and Watson are below average to average midfielders who would struggle to make just about any other first XI side in the A League. I thought Kanta early on in the season had turned the corner but once again he has had a brain explosion in a game with a rash, un-called for challenge. Poljak has been one of our better players in some games but like today he can very poor as well, lacking consistency. Watson has had enough chances to impress but appears to have dropped below youngster Cowburn in the pecking order.
Will be interesting to see what Ugarkovic offers to the side but we cannot carry 3-4 average midfielders in the squad for another season.
100% Agree with this post. Kanta on his day can be fantastic but he is easily distracted and if it continues he will never progress.
If he doesn't pull his socks up, he can go at end of season. He has probably been around the club too long and needs a fresh challenge.
hahaha time to get a tweed jacket Gerald
Hunter403
18-01-2016, 06:11 PM
Kanta needed to leave the Jets 2 seasons ago. To comfortable here. Needs a new challenge if he's to improve
Kanta needed to leave the Jets 2 seasons ago. To comfortable here. Needs a new challenge if he's to improve
Probably would benefit Kanta more by seeking a new challenge next season to get his career on track.
I can see us though trying to resign him though.
Local versatile 100 plus games and all that shit.
If we are gonna do so lets make sure we actually don't get screwed over paying him and offer him market value.
I can't see a long list of suitors trying to over pay him so why should we???
I don't ever want to see Watson in our strip again, bloke is a donkey of monumental proportions.
Jetmaster
18-01-2016, 06:56 PM
Carney brings up the Qatar offer today then says nothing yet from the Jets. Looked like an obvious ploy with the timing straight after a MOM performance. So some agent games over the next fortnight.
Have to be cynical.....
Carney brings up the Qatar offer today then says nothing yet from the Jets. Looked like an obvious ploy with the timing straight after a MOM performance. So some agent games over the next fortnight.
Have to be cynical.....
His hoping it ain't bullshit and we can get him out the door.
1 good game don't make up for 5 honkin games particularly from a bloke who should be leading by example as a senior player in the squad
Mark325
18-01-2016, 08:15 PM
Starting to think that the signing of Ugarkovic is a sign that Miller feels he just does not have enough quality in the middle of the park. Especially after todays performance against a poor Nix side it's apparent we do not have a leader/dominant player to dictate the game. Half-way through the season I think it's fair to say that Kanta, Poljak and Watson are below average to average midfielders who would struggle to make just about any other first XI side in the A League. I thought Kanta early on in the season had turned the corner but once again he has had a brain explosion in a game with a rash, un-called for challenge. Poljak has been one of our better players in some games but like today he can very poor as well, lacking consistency. Watson has had enough chances to impress but appears to have dropped below youngster Cowburn in the pecking order.
Will be interesting to see what Ugarkovic offers to the side but we cannot carry 3-4 average midfielders in the squad for another season.
We definitely need to get rid of some of our midfielders in a big way.
Watson has to go, without a doubt
Kanta I feel should go, although it seems a waste to have invested so much into him. But, I feel thats the reason to let him go as we have invested so much, and it hasn't payed off. He's on a lot of coin and could do with a fresh start. More then likely, in most teams he wouldn't see starting football and wouldn't be on as much coin which would be a good wake up call for him.
From a perspective of quality, I think Poljak offers more and can have better games then Kanta. Cowburn looks to be the goods and if Ugarkovic is the same then we'd have two good youngsters in the midfield battling it out for some starting football with either partnering Poljak.
Other thing we gotta look at is the amount of young dudes we have playing attacking positions and which one of them is worth keeping a hold of. We can't invest in Pav, Lundy, Crowley, Kitto and Brennan all at once and realistically need to figure out which ones are worth the time and which ones are worth going elsewhere, as well as having Baressi and Cooper playing attacking mid as well.
parksey
18-01-2016, 08:50 PM
Kanta has been one of our best players this year lads
Hunter403
18-01-2016, 09:00 PM
Kanta has been one of our best players this year lads
No argument. I just feel he would be such a better player in a different, less comfortable, environment.
The Postman
18-01-2016, 09:31 PM
Keep Kanta, as long as we get a new owner and his somewhat large wage can be part moved outside the cap into the home grown category. Same with BK.
The Camel
19-01-2016, 09:18 AM
Keep Kanta, as long as we get a new owner and his somewhat large wage can be part moved outside the cap into the home grown category. Same with BK.
I agree with regards to keeping him but I think he should be on market value, which I am positive would be less than what he is currently earning. Same with BK, on the open market he would not get near 100k and at would not get a start at any other club, so we need to either re sign them on market value reduced terms or let them go
Jeterpool
19-01-2016, 09:22 AM
I agree with regards to keeping him but I think he should be on market value, which I am positive would be less than what he is currently earning. Same with BK, on the open market he would not get near 100k and at would not get a start at any other club, so we need to either re sign them on market value reduced terms or let them go
BK could be our starting keeper next year, we should keep in mind. If Birighitti doesn't re-sign there isn't a lot of quality domestically coming off contract.
His hoping it ain't bullshit and we can get him out the door.
1 good game don't make up for 5 honkin games particularly from a bloke who should be leading by example as a senior player in the squad
Are you for real?
He has been one of our best attackers. Admittedly in an inept squad.
StannyCFCJET
19-01-2016, 12:53 PM
Carney is great when the team is going well and there is space for him to attack and set up attacks but when were not playing well or attacking very well I.E last 8 weeks or so and the team is struggling to defend Carney gets found out in a big way. Kanta is solid but for a guy who has been at the club for years and had potential he hasnt really gotten any better than he was back then. I agree he has been one of our best this year but we have been coming second last so that doesnt count for much. (i know he has had injuries.) As for BK he has been a loyal servant and has saved our ass as many times as birraz has but birraz is on some god pedastool and can do no wrong where as BK is blamed for every loss we have when he is in goal. also feel that baresi should leave and brennan radovan crowley lundy need at least 5 weeks in a row starting to see if they will make it or not
GazFish35
19-01-2016, 12:55 PM
Carney is great when the team is going well and there is space for him to attack and set up attacks but when were not playing well or attacking very well I.E last 8 weeks or so and the team is struggling to defend Carney gets found out in a big way. Kanta is solid but for a guy who has been at the club for years and had potential he hasnt really gotten any better than he was back then. I agree he has been one of our best this year but we have been coming second last so that doesnt count for much. (i know he has had injuries.) As for BK he has been a loyal servant and has saved our ass as many times as birraz has but birraz is on some god pedastool and can do no wrong where as BK is blamed for every loss we have when he is in goal. also feel that baresi should leave and brennan radovan crowley lundy need at least 5 weeks in a row starting to see if they will make it or not
I like the cut of your jib
Are you for real?
He has been one of our best attackers. Admittedly in an inept squad.
Yep
The bloke may have some talent but he is lazy lacks discipline and sets a bad example for the younger players as a senior player in the squad.
Considering the coin he is on he should be contributing much more.
You can carry a bloke like Del Piero in a side when he don't run in defence as his skill set with the ball is class
Carney is no ADP.
What is his excuse for walking most of the game??
What is his excuse for not tracking back when we lose the ball??
What is his excuse for pulling out of tackles??
For the coin he is on he is not giving us value for money
GazFish35
19-01-2016, 02:04 PM
Ease up Member. its hot in the sun for such a fair skinned lad.
matty
19-01-2016, 06:19 PM
shitney are making a play for carney....source smh
Jeterpool
19-01-2016, 06:19 PM
shitney are making a play for carney....source smh
Again...
Jeterpool
19-01-2016, 06:20 PM
And fine. But we will take Naumoff
Yep
What is his excuse for walking most of the game??
What is his excuse for not tracking back when we lose the ball??
What is his excuse for pulling out of tackles??
being chased by other clubs better than us suggests this argument is a fat cream bum
there should 8 other supposed good fit players to take care of defence. everyone is walking cept alivi, he duracel bunny.
Show me 2 good attackers coming in the door then ill throw him in the red lid bin.
And Sydney is wanting Carney back.
Remember all those temporary social welfare tear jerkers saying how great an opportunity is was for Tooles move to Sydney. lol
being chased by other clubs better than us suggests this argument is a fat cream bum
there should 8 other supposed good fit players to take care of defence. everyone is walking cept alivi, he duracel bunny.
Show me 2 good attackers coming in the door then ill throw him in the red lid bin.
Chased by clubs better than us??
Last I looked in todays paper him and his agent are having a whinge as a shit club like us ain't rushing into signing him a new deal.
If he had a pile of clubs wanting him he wouldn't be carrying on like that.
YEp some club in the Arabian desert wants him apparently.
Well he can buy some blockout at duty free and enjoy playing there.
As for his walking. Even on the occasions he has played at Left Back when we cough it up he wont run back. That there is no excuse for.
Premy
20-01-2016, 09:36 AM
Planets are aligning Mr Ellan and Mr Gallop.
Release Carney to the Smurfs or these Arabs, sign RIISE, win the League. Simple.
Premy
20-01-2016, 09:37 AM
Carney OUT.
Riise IN.
plague
20-01-2016, 09:45 AM
Carney OUT.
Riise IN.
You spelt Griff wrong.
Premy
20-01-2016, 10:00 AM
You spelt Griff wrong.
One overpaid hack at a time.
That one would look like
Milos OUT
Griff IN
StannyCFCJET
20-01-2016, 11:41 AM
Riise is 35 and a grub sick of jets signing old players for too much coin. I even thought Heskey was a waste of money. Would find it very hard to get behind Riise even if by some miracle he signs and plays amazing. This could be because of my bias against any player cept for Kewell that played for those idiot scousers but would rather get a young aussie left back with olyroos experience or a-league experience
Hunter403
20-01-2016, 01:34 PM
Riise is 35 and a grub sick of jets signing old players for too much coin. I even thought Heskey was a waste of money. Would find it very hard to get behind Riise even if by some miracle he signs and plays amazing. This could be because of my bias against any player cept for Kewell that played for those idiot scousers but would rather get a young aussie left back with olyroos experience or a-league experience
Life ban please
StannyCFCJET
20-01-2016, 01:39 PM
i watched us in pre season a few times the season we bought heskey we actually tried to pass the ball around the deck and played some sort off football. After we signed heskey the players regressed and all we did was hoof it long for heskey to chase
Roundball Enthusiast
20-01-2016, 02:13 PM
i watched us in pre season a few times the season we bought heskey we actually tried to pass the ball around the deck and played some sort off football. After we signed heskey the players regressed and all we did was hoof it long for heskey to chase
Funny thing about players. More times than not, they do as they're told from the Gaffa.
StannyCFCJET
20-01-2016, 02:15 PM
i agree with that 100% would explain alot of the crap happening this season
Roundball Enthusiast
20-01-2016, 02:27 PM
i agree with that 100% would explain alot of the crap happening this season
Yeah, unfortunately. Being told to play defensive "at all costs" is why we've only won 4 games... If we played attacking styles every now and then we'd probably score more goals.
StannyCFCJET
20-01-2016, 02:52 PM
Yeah, unfortunately. Being told to play defensive "at all costs" is why we've only won 4 games... If we played attacking styles every now and then we'd probably score more goals.
its like theve been told not to play with any creativity or belief they can score goals which i highly doubt miller would do but its what weve been seeing until the shackles were released against the phoenix
Yeah, unfortunately. Being told to play defensive "at all costs" is why we've only won 4 games... If we played attacking styles every now and then we'd probably score more goals.
fmd could you be more simplistic
plague
20-01-2016, 03:33 PM
Serious though watch the first goal last week. The short passing, movement and angles that started at the back was pretty football.
The players can do it, it just never looks like their first instinct.
Roundball Enthusiast
20-01-2016, 03:35 PM
fmd could you be more simplistic
:rof::rof::rof::rof:
StannyCFCJET
20-01-2016, 03:56 PM
Serious though watch the first goal last week. The short passing, movement and angles that started at the back was pretty football.
The players can do it, it just never looks like their first instinct.
First goal was a penalty wasnt it?
plague
20-01-2016, 05:30 PM
First goal was a penalty wasnt it?
Ah yes, I mean the other first goal. You know, the one after the other first goal.
StannyCFCJET
20-01-2016, 06:05 PM
Ah yes, I mean the other first goal. You know, the one after the other first goal.
yeah kitto's goal that was beautiful buildup
Premy
20-01-2016, 07:50 PM
Ah yes, I mean the other first goal. You know, the one after the other first goal.
You mean the part where Moss deflected a back pass into the middle of his own box for Kitto to tap home. Yeah that was fantastic.
Premy
20-01-2016, 07:56 PM
We signed Riise yet?
plague
20-01-2016, 07:58 PM
You mean the part where Moss deflected a back pass into the middle of his own box for Kitto to tap home. Yeah that was fantastic.
Hey man you guys are the stat nerdy nerdz counting up assists and stuff.
Moss would make the SuperCoach team of the week wouldn't he?
Beeen
20-01-2016, 07:58 PM
The pingas are shit here. This will definitely affect Riise's decision if he were to receive an offer to play for the jets.
Premy
20-01-2016, 08:00 PM
Hey man you guys are the stat nerdy nerdz counting up assists and stuff.
Moss would make the SuperCoach team of the week wouldn't he?
More points than BK this week.
riverboy
20-01-2016, 08:27 PM
I think Carney is a good player, He is highly competitive and probably feels let down as he is playing some decent football and the team in general isnt.
The jets should do the right thing and offer him a contract. He deserves it.
The Dunster
20-01-2016, 09:00 PM
I think Carney is a good player, He is highly competitive and probably feels let down as he is playing some decent football and the team in general isnt.
The jets should do the right thing and offer him a contract. He deserves it.
Until he decides to do some defensive work as well he should only be entitled to half a contract.
StannyCFCJET
20-01-2016, 09:54 PM
until he decides to do some defensive work as well he should only be entitled to half a contract.
bloody oath
Mark325
20-01-2016, 11:13 PM
It's hard to determine what to do with Carney. On one hand, the amount of coin he's on is generally what some of the better players inside the cap are on in the league, so getting rid of him and getting another higher quality player in the team could be big for next season. But, will the Jets actually sign someone who is better then Carney is the question and we really can't be trusted to do so. Carney is one of the better players we have bar none, but I refuse to believe we can't get someone better on the same amount of coin he is on
Hunter403
21-01-2016, 08:44 AM
The problem is that this club cannot attract quality players. Is it the perceived poor management, do they think Newcastle is a hole, or do they doubt the club's future? Whatever the reason, better players don't come here. We got Carney cause no one else wanted to take a punt. He came here cause no one else wanted him. Right now, he is our best player. Without him we would be dead last again. Is he overpaid? Possibly. Are we going to get another player on that money who is that influential? Probably not. Keep him. Use him to attract some young up and comers. Use him to get us up the ladder. If we pay over the odds then so be it as we cannot get anyone as good or better.
Jeterpool
21-01-2016, 08:56 AM
The problem is that this club cannot attract quality players. Is it the perceived poor management, do they think Newcastle is a hole, or do they doubt the club's future? Whatever the reason, better players don't come here. We got Carney cause no one else wanted to take a punt. He came here cause no one else wanted him. Right now, he is our best player. Without him we would be dead last again. Is he overpaid? Possibly. Are we going to get another player on that money who is that influential? Probably not. Keep him. Use him to attract some young up and comers. Use him to get us up the ladder. If we pay over the odds then so be it as we cannot get anyone as good or better.
Does anyone know what Troisi was on at Victory? Would $230,000 be enough?
StannyCFCJET
21-01-2016, 09:15 AM
Does anyone know what Troisi was on at Victory? Would $230,000 be enough?
Wasn't he Australian Marquee?
synapse101
21-01-2016, 11:39 AM
yeah kitto's goal that was beautiful buildup
Yeah, the 2nd goal, that little triangle the defenders/midfielder did behind halfway that started that run was like a perfect little triangle drill from training.
Guerny
21-01-2016, 12:20 PM
Does anyone know what Troisi was on at Victory? Would $230,000 be enough?
Carney is willing to be here on ~$200K... as if Troisi is going to play for any non-metro team anyway, no matter what we throw at him..
Premy
21-01-2016, 12:28 PM
The problem is that this club cannot attract quality players. Is it the perceived poor management, do they think Newcastle is a hole, or do they doubt the club's future? Whatever the reason, better players don't come here. We got Carney cause no one else wanted to take a punt. He came here cause no one else wanted him. Right now, he is our best player. Without him we would be dead last again. Is he overpaid? Possibly. Are we going to get another player on that money who is that influential? Probably not. Keep him. Use him to attract some young up and comers. Use him to get us up the ladder. If we pay over the odds then so be it as we cannot get anyone as good or better.
You real believe that? Newcastle doesn't have a problem attracting players here, it's the people who work for the Jets who have a problem attracting people here.
Covic, Zelic, Okon, Milicic, Carle, Griffiths, North, Durante just to name a few. Remo and Tsatsimas had no problem attracting quality players with the same if not less resources so what is this current mobs excuse?
We can get the players if the ffa can be bothered to give some $ and management, select:facepalm:, a couple of good players.
Premy
21-01-2016, 12:36 PM
FFS Scott you worked with John. Surely you know someone who has his number, give him a call and get him out here already.
Jeterpool
21-01-2016, 12:39 PM
:rof:
I'm all for this.
FFS Scott you worked with John. Surely you know someone who has his number, give him a call and get him out here already.
Hunter403
21-01-2016, 01:21 PM
You real believe that? Newcastle doesn't have a problem attracting players here, it's the people who work for the Jets who have a problem attracting people here.
Covic, Zelic, Okon, Milicic, Carle, Griffiths, North, Durante just to name a few. Remo and Tsatsimas had no problem attracting quality players with the same if not less resources so what is this current mobs excuse?
History. Today is what matters and we can't attract players. They do not see the Jets as a desirable location
Griff said - the one player almost everyone knew was David Carney. With that in mind, I can't understand the delay in re-signing Dave.
He’s been their best player this season and his experience is so valuable, when you consider the Jets have a very young squad.
end of discussion for 3months
plague
22-01-2016, 04:56 PM
Con and Remo got everyone they wanted*.
Double-eff-aye thought it best to get rid of football people from our club.
a lot of you applauded that.
congrats on your bumper crop this season.
*juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust waiting for Venebles to clear immigration.
sorefootballer
23-01-2016, 04:44 PM
So did anyone else hear on nbn news last night that the jets were going to sign an international standard player? Supposedly by the end of this transfer window?
Jetmaster
23-01-2016, 05:13 PM
I did but take it with a pinch of salt....as us now usual with this club.
sorefootballer
23-01-2016, 05:27 PM
Agreed
Grimario
23-01-2016, 07:19 PM
Roy Krishna is an international and is currently injured.....
Ticks all the boxes.
The Dunster
23-01-2016, 07:33 PM
Roy Krishna is an international and is currently injured.....
Ticks all the boxes.
Unless he's an amputee it's only speculation.
Probably some American Samoan international
All in the wording
International sounds good but let's not worry about from where
Jeterpool
23-01-2016, 08:01 PM
Probably some American Samoan international
All in the wording
International sounds good but let's not worry about from where
Jeremy Brockie
borat
23-01-2016, 08:29 PM
Tommy Oar has requested and received a release from Ipswich to return to the A-League. No idea who to but would want game time and will get it from us.
foti68
23-01-2016, 08:53 PM
So did anyone else hear on nbn news last night that the jets were going to sign an international standard player? Supposedly by the end of this transfer window?
Yes a midfielder
Jeterpool
23-01-2016, 09:01 PM
Yes a midfielder
Played in EPL?
Played in EPL?
Taggart on loan
plague
23-01-2016, 10:28 PM
Venables
Grimario
23-01-2016, 10:36 PM
Taggart on loan
Some bloke on twitter said he's to be announced by Perth on Monday. Thwaite leaving frees up spot and salary cap.
Premy
23-01-2016, 11:30 PM
Played in EPL?
The name Yossi Benoyoun is getting tossed around.
Premy
23-01-2016, 11:34 PM
Some bloke on twitter said he's to be announced by Perth on Monday. Thwaite leaving frees up spot and salary cap.
I'm sure I read the other day that he couldn't play for another club until next season due to registration for 3 clubs or something.
plague
23-01-2016, 11:44 PM
The name Yossi Benoyoun is getting tossed around.
Yeah I read that somewhere.
matty
25-01-2016, 10:44 PM
so the carney swap with sydney involves naumoff and hoole
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/newcastle-jets-looking-to-swap-two-sydney-fc-players-for-veteran-david-carney/news-story/6dab67b81f78a518de3052ccef83c459
The Dunster
25-01-2016, 11:00 PM
Why the **** would we want Hoole ? The kid has no end product. Thanks but no thanks.
As long as people get emotional about this bringing them back home bullshit the Jets will continue upon this downhill spiral.
Nothing personal about Hoole either. He was a fabulous player at magic and in the few games I saw him play for the Jets Youth - but he was no better than Chilli or Kale - both of whom could be had for a lot less dollars.
matty
25-01-2016, 11:03 PM
hoole im not a fan of....no disrespect when i say that, but please scored one? goal in his career from the spot. Naumoff wouldn be a bad pick up tho. got pace and can hit a ball
weston
25-01-2016, 11:07 PM
I wouldn't be too upset with Hoole back. But would be nice to try something else rather than resigning the same player 6 months after he left as it does seem a bit stupid on both parties behalf.
The Dunster
25-01-2016, 11:08 PM
hoole im not a fan of....no disrespect when i say that, but please scored one? goal in his career from the spot. Naumoff wouldn be a bad pick up tho. got pace and can hit a ball
Hoole is 22 and has shown nothing. Arnold has only used him 8 times this season as well so it's more than obvious Arnold doesn't think he's up to it either.
Mark325
25-01-2016, 11:10 PM
Carney from a coin perspective is probably equivalent of those two, I think Hoole is a good player. Couldn't finish but is a good player
Naumoff I rate, would take
Problem is I don't see who else we'd grab, being realistic who else could we grab from Sydney assuming we do the deal
matty
25-01-2016, 11:12 PM
wouldnt mind seeing who this european mid is getting signed by the end of the week. knowing this mob its probly flores
The Dunster
25-01-2016, 11:16 PM
Carney from a coin perspective is probably equivalent of those two, I think Hoole is a good player. Couldn't finish but is a good player
Naumoff I rate, would take
Problem is I don't see who else we'd grab, being realistic who else could we grab from Sydney assuming we do the deal
We should go for Naumoff and Sebastian Ryall. Anything less Sydney can **** off.
plague
25-01-2016, 11:18 PM
I want Hoole to come back just for the lulz from Hawk.
Bloke hates him.
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